In short
Alicia Carmody (Real Housewives of Rhode Island) talks about anxiety, conflict/forgiveness, reality-TV dynamics, and her life with husband Billy and their daughter, while also discussing Rhode Island food culture at Pizza Mama (where the episode was filmed).
Guest backgrounds
Alicia is a Rhode Island Housewife and longtime hairstylist who says she empathizes deeply and has anxiety. She and Billy run/own restaurant ventures, including Pizza Mama; Billy is portrayed as Greek-restaurant-connected and very supportive.
Key claims
She describes anxiety triggers (e.g., needing crackers when nervous; shutting down/avoiding problems in real life, but learning to face issues on camera). She says forgiveness helped her handle tension with Liz at the reunion. She clarifies she was not “homeless,” but moved house-to-house after her father sold their home. She claims Rula’s affair was widely known, with Joellen later “proving” it.
Notable examples
heart-shaped pizzas and pizza chips; “Cooking rule: If at first you don’t succeed, order pizza”; “Italian grinders” and hot honey; reunion needed because issues were repeatedly unresolved; Greece/Italy travel debates; a car incident where she says she hit a woman who jumped in front of her car.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOLove for Real Housewives
0:46 to 2:36
Discussion on the appeal and character dynamics in the show.
“And she gives pretty good advice in this episode.”
Experiences Filming in Rhode Island
2:36 to 3:20
Hosts share their experiences filming with Alicia in Rhode Island.
“We filmed it at Pizza Mama in Rhode Island because for me that there was nowhere else to film this episode.”
Reflections on the Reunion
3:20 to 4:30
Alicia discusses her feelings about the reunion and past conflicts.
“Shout out the entire staff at Pizza Mama.”
Navigating Personal Relationships
4:30 to 7:40
Alicia talks about her relationships with cast members and personal growth.
“I brought you crackers and Fig Newtons, and we're drinking wine.”
Cultural and Culinary Insights
7:40 to 9:26
Discussion about food culture, Rhode Island delicacies, and personal anecdotes.
“I didn't know Ashley and I wasn't really close with Rula until maybe a year before we started filming and same thing with Rosie.”
Sports and Entertainment
9:26 to 12:00
Exploration of sports interests and personal experiences with music.
“I never got into the summer I turned pretty.”
Pop Culture Favorites
12:00 to 15:10
Discussion on favorite pop culture figures and musical artists.
“I'm like brain dead because of the fucking Knicks last night.”
Parenting Anxiety
15:10 to 17:20
Alicia shares her thoughts on her daughter's appearance and the stress it brings.
“Everyone always thought I was six foot tall.”
Balancing Work and Life
17:20 to 19:30
Alicia talks about her struggles managing her new work schedule after filming.
“You can't be funny, charming, and manage a schedule.”
Reality TV Dynamics
19:30 to 21:50
Discussion on the complexities of relationships portrayed in reality TV and personal experiences.
“But how awkward did you feel at that dinner, though, knowing about the video?”
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Controversial Television Moments
21:50 to 22:30
Alicia reflects on controversial events from the show and her worries about public perception.
“Was Billy like initially apprehensive about doing the show?”
Unique Stories from Filming
22:30 to 24:20
Alicia shares a surprising story about an incident while filming and its implications.
“And we came from, I think I was driving slow.”
Unique Stories from Filming
25:20 to 26:06
Alicia shares a surprising story about an incident while filming and its implications.
“And now I have a new tablet to binge watch all my television when I travel or when I'm laying in bed.”
Unique Stories from Filming
26:09 to 27:03
Alicia shares a surprising story about an incident while filming and its implications.
“All of my friends have so many different needs, especially me, like I need a working air conditioner and I need walkability because I don't drive.”
Vacation Disagreements: Greece vs. Home
28:01 to 29:56
Explore the humorous tensions around vacation choices and cultural expectations.
“But so the part of Greece that he's from is like right next to the part of Italy that I'm from.”
Concert Memories: Britney and Beyoncé
29:57 to 30:50
Relive touching concert experiences that left a lasting impression.
“What's the best concert you've ever been to?”
Advice Segment: Tell Me What's Wrong
30:51 to 32:30
Engage in a segment where listeners seek advice on personal dilemmas.
“Let's have another bite of my grinder because it is that good.”
Exploring Rhode Island Connections
33:59 to 42:04
Discuss the connections between Rhode Island personalities and local culture.
“I feel like she'll change your life about how you feel about Greece.”
Honeymoon Dilemma
42:04 to 43:13
Discussing feelings around a friend's wedding conflict during a honeymoon.
“One of my really close friends just said she wants to have her wedding a week after mine.”
Business Ideas and Trust
43:13 to 44:42
Exploring ideas for a restaurant and the dynamics of a business partnership.
“Yeah, I would be like, oh, my God, how are you not sad, girl?”
Historical Conversations
44:42 to 46:08
Light-hearted banter about history and personal stories related to it.
“But to run the business, we'll leave that on my side of things.”
Social Media and Self-Perception
46:08 to 48:14
Discussing the impact of social media on self-image and interaction.
“You think Romeo and Juliet actually happened?”
Law School Woes
48:14 to 49:25
Addressing negative experiences with peers in law school and personal aspirations.
“Do you feel like, is it weird perceiving yourself?”
Hairstylist Tales
49:25 to 50:27
Sharing amusing and dramatic stories from working as a hairstylist.
“and are probably going to be sleazy lawyers.”
Navigating Relationships and Professionalism
50:27 to 51:48
Discussing discomfort with a partner's acting role involving intimacy.
“I'm sure it's all professional and good and I haven't said anything about it, but it does genuinely bother me.”
Friendship Dynamics
51:48 to 54:20
Navigating friendships and dealing with social situations comfortably.
“I couldn't do one, and then you start doing them, and you start doing it with a resistance band, and then you just work your way up, and you get there.”
Being Nice vs. Being a Doormat
54:20 to 56:00
Exploring the balance between kindness and assertiveness in friendships.
“My roommates got a second cat without asking me.”
Navigating Personal Identity and Friendliness
56:00 to 56:50
The discussion centers on balancing being nice with not being a pushover.
“How do I move forward to something better?”
Reality TV Favorites and Recommendations
56:50 to 57:56
Hosts share their favorite reality shows and memorable moments from them.
“Is Dolores going to be filming more next season or no?”
Coping with Car Troubles
57:56 to 58:56
Advice on maintaining composure during recurring car issues and the importance of perspective.
“I cannot catch a break where it's almost like every other month something is wrong with my car.”
Red Flags in Relationships
58:56 to 1:00:17
Exploring whether a partner's troubling behavior is a red flag or a one-off incident.
“I love to shop and I like the shows, you know.”
Lessons Learned and Closing Thoughts
1:00:17 to 1:01:20
Reflecting on the episode's discussions and humorous moments.
“To an assault an officer, what do you think?”
Transcript
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0:26hi pussies welcome back to therapist tonight we have on alicia from the real housewives of rhode island one of my favorite shows on television and it is also one of manny's favorite shows on television it is this is your first intro this is my first intro and i'm a little nervous oh don't be nervous okay we're just gonna talk about how much we love alicia and what do you love about real housewives of rhode island what don't i love about the real housewives of rhode island um basically every single woman on it is like wild um they all have the best accents ever and just hearing them speak to each other is a treat yes they're just silly they're like insane they all have these like crazy houses and crazy jobs like one of them owns a weed store one of them owns a pizza store where we went oh i didn't get to go manny and the pizza i know you know i don't like pizza it was fucking amazing oh god you know i was like a hot honey pizza yeah i was looking at their yelp she has the heart-shaped pizza i know and i'm really bummed that i wasn't there.
1:31We'll see her again. Oh, I feel it in my bones. She's everything. Yeah, I know. She's everything. I know. And she gives pretty good advice in this episode. She gives some really good advice. The Housewives always give great advice. Well, because they've like lived lives. Yeah. Like all of them. Like they they've been through a lot pre-show and on the show. I think that's what makes watching Housewives like so empowering. I like feel so empowered when I watch housewives me too i feel like i'm like oh my god if they can do that i can do anything yes well also you were mentioning this before about how it's like they get in these crazy fights and then they move on and they make up and they're best friends again yeah i don't know people like that in real life and it's so fun to watch that on screen because it really is like wow they go to like the deepest darkest depths of their anger and shame and screaming and whatever and then like a A month later, they're best friends again and they move on.
2:25Like, they are strong people. And it's like kind of the beauty of life. I know. It's like really they put water under the bridge and they're like, we got to make a show. Let's just keep going. Yeah. I hope you guys enjoyed tonight's episode. We filmed it at Pizza Mama in Rhode Island because for me that there was nowhere else to film this episode. Alicia is so – I think she is going – I think she is bound to be one of the greatest housewives we've ever seen. I do want to add something because I went out to Rhode Island to film this with everybody. And I want to shout out Billy as well and Alicia because they were so hospital or hospitable.
3:02Yes. To me, when I got there, they moved like the earth to make sure that we could set up after we went through like two bottles of Prosecco and they just fed me. And Billy like helped me put my luggage into the car for the airport, helped me clean up and the whole staff at Pizza Mama. It was a really fun day, and I just want to shout them out. Oh, amazing. It was fantastic. Fucking shout out Alicia. Shout out Billy. Shout out the entire staff at Pizza Mama. It is really like you walk in there, and that place feels like home. I'm telling you. Also, did you watch the finale? I did. You did? I did.
3:39I am obsessed with Billy and Alicia from the finale. He loves her so much when he reproposed to her. I know. Oh, my God. And then she just kept being like, you've never done anything like this ever the entire time I've known you. And you have been like, yeah, I know. That's why I'm doing it now. I know. I love them. You were never homeless. You were never homeless. I know. Wow, that's a good impression. Thank you. They keep saying about Liz, but Liz was saying it about herself, which kind of makes me like, she's like, I'm the sweetest person. I'm a sheep in wolf's clothing. I don't know if you could say that about yourself.
4:16So she's essentially claiming she has a tough exterior, but deep down she's nice. Yes. So her actions are mean, but actually she's nice. Yes. You can't say that about yourself. I agree. Can't wait for the reunion. I know. Me too. I'm so excited. Me too. Enjoy the episode, pussies. I love you guys.
4:34Alicia Carmody. Hi. Welcome to Therapist. Oh my God, I love you. I'm so excited. I love you. I'm so excited. I brought you crackers and Fig Newtons, and we're drinking wine. That is the best gift in the world, because everyone knows how much I love this. Like I'm like literally, I live off of this stuff. Have you been eating them forever? I've been eating these since I was like a child. Right, right, right. And so to be honest with you with the crackers, I think it's more of like a nervous thing. Like I have anxiety. Right. And I didn't realize how much I talked about crackers until watching myself back on the show.
4:59Oh, you like didn't even clock it in the moment? No. Because you were so in it. We were just talking about that. Yeah. Like it was my anxiety. Like you know when you get butterflies? Yeah. Like that feeling? I would just want a cracker. Right, right. You know, like some people want a cig. I wanted a cracker. You smoke cigs? I used to. I got pregnant. Oh, okay. Well, that's always a good reason. Yeah. Yeah. That's always a good reason. Yeah. How was the reunion? The reunion was, it was needed. It was very much needed. And I feel like a lot of things had to be said and answered for too, you know?
5:32Were you on good terms with everyone? I was. Not at the reunion. I mean, God, filming brings it out of you, huh? Yeah. Like it really like. Because you know what? What I didn't know going into first season is if you have to talk about things over and over. So you're getting very emotional, talking about things that upset you. Yeah. And I didn't know how the world was going to react. You're just trying to be yourself and just figuring out as you go. Right. And you've known Liz since you were what? Like babies? Since I was born. Was it weird filming with her? Yeah, it was fun. But yeah, at the same time when you're giving me attitude.
6:06I'm like, you're giving me attitude on camera though. Why would you do that? Right, that's sad. At the end of the day, it's like you're calling me out on camera. Yeah, so that part's with me. Like, how do I handle this on camera? Then you're like, you know what? After a while, it's like, if we're just going to be real, I'm just going to answer how I would answer her. Right, exactly. Do you fight like that in real life as well? Or do you never fight? So normally, I would have never talked to her again. But since I'm on the show with her, I'm like, well, I have to forgive her, which is good. Forgiveness is good.
6:37Instead of me, I run away from problems. Instead of addressing them. So I feel like that really helped me a lot, you know? Yeah. You, like, shut down. I shut down and run. I just won't answer phone calls. I avoid, like, the plague. But on this, you can't do that. You have to face your fears and, like, have to, you know, respond. And I didn't know how to do that before, you know? Do you think it's, like, making you a better person? It made me a lot stronger. Yeah. A lot stronger, you know? I didn't realize I was that sensitive. You are that sensitive. I was with you on the homeless thing. Yes. I was team you all the way.
7:09That's your truth. Listen, I never lived on the streets. I never said that. I just said my father sold our home, took all of our money, and I had to move from house to house. I lived with my aunt, my grandparents, and then he came back in. And so when she was questioning me, I felt like, you know my story, but we grew up very similar. Right, okay. And I didn't know where to go with that. I was stuck in the car for two hours. That was a two-hour drive? Two hours of the same story, by the way. Two hours. So I was having a severe anxiety attack. Did you have crackers? I did. Joan kept going, do you want to crack?
7:40and I was like, yeah, I do. I'm nervous, you know? So have you known Joellen? You guys have all known each other. Yeah. Just not Ashley. I didn't know Ashley and I wasn't really close with Rula until maybe a year before we started filming and same thing with Rosie. Okay, thoughts on Ashley? Like very, I thought she was from Nebraska. I was like, wait, they didn't show that. I was like, girl, you are like not from here. You are like so Nebraskan. Wait, why Nebraska? I don't know. It's a vibe. And I, like, don't know anything about Nebraska, but, like, she's Nebraskan. I've been to Nebraska, and, like, I get it.
8:14Yeah. Yeah. I was right. Yeah, you're always right. I'm always right. You're always right. Thank you. I love it. So, how have you redecorated this place since the show has come out? We opened it, like, probably, like, a few months before the show came out. And this was, like, an express. This was, like, a tryout because he owns, like, a lot of restaurants. Like, bigger restaurants. You know what I mean? Well, you got to get a stake in those, too. Right. Well, no. Well, yeah. Well, those are his partners and stuff like that. This one is like my baby. This is your baby. So I feel like we want to expand it, but this is like the tryout, you know?
8:43Because it's like, who's going to want to come to a sexy pizzeria? Like, I'm a man. I don't want to be like a pizza mom with chandeliers. You know what I mean? Well. It's cute. It's sassy. It's sassy. It's perfect. Can we try some pizza chips? Yes, let's do it. I need to try. Pizza chips, Big Will. Big Will? And so Big Will didn't want to do the pizza chips either. Who's Big Will? Oh, I call him Big Will. Oh, I thought you were talking to Billy. Oh, no, Billy Will. Thank you, Billie. Are they in hearts? Are these hearts? No, they're little circles. So the thing with the pizza chips, it's like a little circle.
9:13It's light. It has like seasoning, maybe like some Parmesan cheese, salt and pepper. And this is the mama note because I don't really cook. Cooking rule. You want to read it? Cooking rule. If at first you don't succeed, order pizza. Love mama XOXO. That's my gossip girl. You know the XOXO. I love gossip. I had to throw that in there. Do you love gossip girl? Of course I do. What other shows do you watch? I love that show. What's that one? I just said it again. Off campus. Oh, right. I'm obsessed. I love that so much. The summer I turned pretty. I never got into the summer I turned pretty. I'm dead.
9:48Now I might not talk to you. Wait, why? I don't know. I just could never do it. I tried. I could never do it. You've got to, though, because I felt the same way. It was a slow stop, but then you start to, like, love them. Who did you want to end up with, Belly? What was the cute one that I liked? Jeremy. Oh, you were team Jeremiah? I love Jeremiah. He loved her. He loved her so much. The other one was too in his emotions. He was like, I loved, I was the only one that liked Team Jeremiah. Right, right. Oh my God. Okay, this is my first bite. Yeah. Mmm. Light. Perfect for the beach. Yes. Right? So good.
10:23Light, easy. I usually put them on a platter for appetizers when people come over with a charcuterie board with like mini spinach pies, little pizzas. It's just like a picky. You know what I mean? A picky. But you don't feel like sick. Like, picture being in the sun. You're not feeling like you're having like a grinder. You know what I mean? You're having like something light. Just to do what it has to do. Like a grinder. What's that? You don't know what a grinder is? I'm so excited. I know the app. Can I teach you? Oh, it's not the app. An Italian grinder. So it's like a sub. It's like an Italian loaf with like the prosciutto.
10:55And they can do the Italian dressing. A cheese is provolone cheese. Salami with the peppers. Oh, it's like a pro. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know that's what you guys called them here. What do you guys call them? Like an Italian. Yeah, the Italian. We call them the grinders. Okay, I love that. What is your favorite thing about Rhode Island? Oh, there's so many. Like for food. Oh, so I like being close to everything. Right. Because I don't drive. Neither do I, by the way. You don't? That's something we share in common. Stop it right now. I refuse. I can't. Do you drive like 10 minutes? Nope.
11:25I don't even have my license. I love you. Where are you from originally? New York. That's why. Yeah. And my dad was like, it's not happening for you. But why though? What did you feel? I would hit someone. You did? No, I would. Oh, okay. I know you did. So we're like, we're supposed to be friends. I know we're supposed to be friends. Yes. What sign are you? Do you want to guess? I feel like a Leo. No, but I see how you would get there. I'm a Scorpio. Oh, Scorpio. I love a Scorpio. What are you? I'm a Sag. I'm right in the cusp. Oh, I love a Sag. You're a Sag. Aren't you? Amani. Oh, you're a Virgo.
12:00Oh, man. November 26th. 23rd. Oh, that's Billy's birthday. Billy's a Sag. I love it here. We love Sag. We love Sag this year. Yeah. I'm like brain dead because of the fucking Knicks last night. No, tell me. I'll go. It's okay. I get it. Trust me. Don't worry. It was. Did they win? Did they win? I don't know. Did the Knicks win? Oh, it was like the biggest comeback in sports history. Oh, was it really? Yeah. It was the first quarter, right? I'm like, oh, fuck, they're losing. This guy, he was like, I promise you, they're going to win. Stop it. He was like, he was like serving drinks. He was like, I promise you, mark my words, they're going to win.
12:36And we're down like 30 points. I'm like, how are we going to win? He said, they just need to start shooting threes. And they started shooting threes. I don't know what that really means. I think it's like from far away. Three points. Yeah. I love you. A little bit further. Yeah, a little bit further. Yeah. And they won. And it was like, I literally, full body chills all over my body. My tits were hard. Like everything. I was like literally like on the floor screaming. It's the best feeling in the world. Community. Right? And you feel the energy in the room and everyone's so happy that it just gives you that boner.
13:04What team do you root for? So when I was younger, I don't really watch sports anymore, but I used to love Orlando Magic because I was obsessed with Shaquille O 'Neal. And he also was a rapper. Did you know that? Shaquille O 'Neal? Shaq. I loved him. What rap? Oh, he used to rap. He used to have the kid. It was like on a tape. There was tapes. It wasn't cities. Oh, a mixtape. No, it was like a tape. Like, there was like a cassette. A cassette, yes. And AB. And I used to love his music when I was younger. And I just thought he was so epic. What music do you listen to today? I still love Rihanna.
13:36Love Rihanna. I can't. Britney. I love Britney Spears. Love Britney. I love Whitney Houston, Diana Ross, Tina Turner. I have like a mix. Kanye, Drake, Nicki Minaj. I love them all. What's your favorite Nicki Minaj song? A Moment Like This. Yeah, I see that for you. Yeah, because it just feels, every time I listen to it, if I'm in a bad mood, I feel like shit. Wait, do you mean Moment for Life? A moment, oh yeah.
14:03A thousand percent. I never get anything right, by the way. Well, it's perfect. It's charming. Moment for Life is like, it just gives you life. You know what I mean? Yes, yes. Okay, what about, what's your favorite Britney Spears song? Hit Me Baby one more time. But when she came back and when she said, it's Britney, bitch. You know what I mean? like I liked that you know so Blackout Britney yes I loved that show are you listening to any new artists today like anyone any of the like younger pop girls I like Pink Panthers I like Pink Panthers I don't know if I said her name right I loved them you did yeah I love her what song do you like well with the one with Zara Larson Stateside yes I like that see I'm not good with like the terms but I just know that like when I hear see the Owen who does my social media he'll put a song and I'd be like I love that and that was Pink Panther what was the name of it Stateside is Owen gay no Owen's He's the most straightest man ever, actually.
14:55Good for you, Owen. Sometimes it's super funny having him run my social media because he's super straight. I'll be like, Owen, you've got to filter me a little bit. It's okay. He's like, I don't see it. I'm like, well, you should. Oh, my God. Angel, Owen. Yeah, he's a good guy. Angel, because you know what? You don't need to filter anything. You look even better in real life. Thank you. No dead ass. You look better. You look amazing. Everyone always thought I was six foot tall. I don't know why on TV, but I'm like 5 '1". I'm short too. How tall? You want to guess? I'm so bad at this game. 5 '4"?
15:27Yeah, 5 '3". See? I'm good. Yeah. All right. I was a little good. I'm good. Alicia, what are you therapist about today? Today, Billie had my daughter here without me knowing, and she wasn't dressed up. She looked like she was a ragged doll, and that stressed me out. Because when she shows up here in front of my friends, I like when she's clean. I don't like when her nails are dirty. I don't like her hair wasn't brushed. And that gave me anxiety. Is that weird? Isn't she five? No, she's nine. She was outside. I go, what is she wearing? She didn't brush her hair. I know my parents used to be on me about that.
16:00I used to post videos online, and I wouldn't brush my hair before. It's charming. It's just like what a mom does. That's what I'm supposed to do. And it bothers me. But that's like the mother of me. So she's lucky. And you're welcome, Selena, if you hear this one day. She will. You're welcome, I care. Because some others don't care, but I do. Right. Okay. Oh, hi. Hi. Oh, my God. Is everyone just so obsessed with Pizza Mama? You know, they like it. And I'm happy. It's fun for them. Right, right. Okay, so that's what you're a therapist about. How has Billie been taking to the reception of the show?
16:31I think Billie's actually been better than me. I think that I'm having more anxiety. You're having anxiety about it? I didn't have anxiety during filming, but I'm having anxiety, like, after it. Like what people are saying? Just, like, trying to keep up. Like, I'm like, oh, my God, I work now. Like, I was a PSO. No, but, like, it's a lot more work than people think it is. No, yeah, a thousand percent. So it's like I can't keep up with calendars and dates and times, you know. So, like, he's more, like, helping me manage my life. What do you mean? Like, do you miss, like, life events? Like, I just, like, didn't.
17:02I worked, like, two, three days a week before. And I love that I'm working now and I love that I get to show that. But, like, I don't know how to manage my schedule yet. You'll learn. Yeah. You'll learn. And, like, you know, I don't know how to manage my schedule either. See? All right. Well, yeah, it's hard. It's hard. You can't do it all. You can't. You can't be funny, charming, and manage a schedule. That's what I say to him when he says to me, I don't know about money. I say, that's your problem. I'm the creator. That's not my problem, I told him. That's what you're for. Right. We're a balanced team.
17:31Right. Yeah. Right, Billy? You know what he does to me every morning? What? This is how I wake up and have coffee, and he wants me to be in a good mood. I wake up, I can't see. I'm not a morning person. I'm like, so Alicia, today we've got to talk about the balances of what you've been spending. Do you want to wake up to that? Every morning? Almost every morning. Yeah, you're overspending. What have you been... There's a lot of boxes that came in last night, and I try hiding them. She announces to me and Selena, I'm awake. And that is the cue for... Selena goes and grabs her cracker biscuits that she eats in the morning, and then I start her coffee and make her coffee with cinnamon, and it's waiting for her.
18:08I do. I wake up. You live like a princess. Well, I do. For most of all, I do. I am very fragile, so yeah. No, but that's okay. I'm fragile. You should be protected. yes you need to be protected okay when rosie and kelsey were fighting yes who did you agree with more rosie right i love rosie i also love kelsey so it's hard for me but rosie is like one of my closest what kelsey did was kind of mean right it was who cares about the square footage i would never so my home is my safe place like i would never want someone to make fun of that and she was like showing her real home yeah you know and it's under construction so give the girl a minute God, what else happened this season?
18:46Oh, Rula's affair. Oh, talk, yeah, whatever you want to ask, go for it. Because I got, please. Who was pushing the agenda of, was it Joellen mostly? Joellen is like a detective. Really? Has she always been like this? Like, I don't remember her always been like this, but she's so good. It's scary. Did she go out of her way to like find out that he was having an affair? I don't think she went out of her way at the beginning. I think that it was very, like, everyone knew about it, which I didn't, to be honest with you. That's the truth. but I think when like Rula was like you know this is lying this is AI Jones like I am gonna prove you wrong this man is cheating and so are they still together very they are so happily in love I mean if it works for them it works for them right right at the end of the day like my mom always told me not to get involved with other people's relationships sometimes you have to for TV but right and I feel the same way if she's happy and she doesn't want to know anything like I'm just going to the beat of her drums.
19:40But how awkward did you feel at that dinner, though, knowing about the video? I liked Brian. To be honest with you guys, Brian is actually amazing. Besides the cheating part. Like, he's fucking funny. The man is funny. Like, you cannot take that away from him. He is funny. Like, he's always saying something. You're like, oh, my God. Like, you know. So it was hard. And I also see him, like, he was a great dad to both of his children. And I seen him, like, in his home taking care of Rula. So it was, yeah, it was awkward. because I do see a good side to him. Right. You know? So the season finale is next week, which I have not seen yet.
20:14Does shit go down? Of course. Always. But like, does it go down like it went down at what's-his-face's Frank Sinatra night? No. Okay. No, not like that. That was bad. So bad. And I got to tell you, I love Liz. And I think that's why I was crying so hard. And I'm not used to crying, so that was like new to me too. like that. So I was like, I just wanted it to end. Like, I just wanted her to be like, you made your point. I don't even care anymore at this point because what does it mean to, like, what does it matter what you think? I know what happens. You know what I mean? Exactly. What does it matter?
20:50But would she not drop it? She wouldn't drop it. She wouldn't leave me alone about it. That's why Joellen was sticking up for me. Right. And she never left it alone even after that. Are Liz and Joellen on good terms or no? Not really. Yeah. You guys are like my family. Every Monday, I sit down. I'm like, I text Imani and I like, yes, you don't understand and I had a gut feeling. I said, I know this is going to be good. I know this is going to be good. They've all known each other since they were kids. Like, I know this is going to be good. Every Monday, you on my screen, dinner, it is the best ritual of all time.
21:20It's the best show ever. Really? Yes. Is it because I think that we all like really like showed our truth like who we are? Yes. You said your truth. You said like how you grew up, like how you feel. You showed your life. That's what reality television is about. Right. You know, it's reality. And I really did hate Billy in that minute, by the way, when I did flip out of him or whatever. I said something, but I love him too. So it shows that like in relationships, what I felt like with my thing, what helped us is that, you know, no one has a perfect relationship and you just got to work through it if it's like strong enough or if it's worth it, you know?
21:52And I liked doing that with him. It helped us. Was Billy like initially apprehensive about doing the show? Well, he was like, why would you want to put your daughter on TV? Why would you want to, like people can judge you. you know I obviously don't say a lot of the right words a lot I mess up a lot and if you do that for a mistake the world might hate you you know and it's a mistake so that part's scary you know what I mean because I don't always say the right thing but I don't mean it intentionally it's just a mistake you know were you was there anything specific that you said that you were like worried was going to be taken the wrong way when you said it I ran over a woman yes I was like oh the world is going to be like where it's over but I can you tell me about that She jumped in front of my car.
22:32Okay. And I was with my best friends. And we came from, I think I was driving slow. And she dove in front of my car and I hit her. And she cracked my windshield and she got up and proceeded to run away. And I said, no, you can't. Because I was thinking, you could have a brain injury. You know? Oh, my God. I would love a grinder. You guys make that here? That'd be a time grinder, but he wanted the hot honey. Oh, my God. I'll do both. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Alicia, I love you. You feel like family to me. You know, I love food. I love food, too. Okay, I got to try the hot honey, right? You got to try the hot honey.
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23:04Oh. Oh, my God. The Italian grinder is my favorite food when I'm drinking. I don't know why. If I have, like, three drinks, I'm, like, right for that. It's the bread. It's the dressing. But that's epic. You're lying. No, it's not. What? That's so good. Do you like that? So there's a cheese crust around it. No. It's light and airy. Is anyone from Detroit over here? I never had Detroit until now. No. Oh, my God. Wait, I'm, like, actually. Yeah, it's so good. I don't like pizza. You don't like pizza? Not really. What? What do you eat? Sushi.
23:44Am I good? I'm so psychic, by the way. FYI. I eat, like, sushi, Thai. Yeah, I knew it when you said you don't like pizza. I like pasta, though. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. I can't stop eating. I'm, like, my fat ass is just going to be munching into the mic the whole time. That's how I get it. If you're at my house, I want you to eat. Right. You know, whether we have Greek food or the Italian, eat, wine, drink, desserts. You like Greek food? I love Greek food. Well, Billy's Greek. Oh. So he owns a lot of Greek restaurants. Oh, I didn't know that. Round two, we got to go to the Greek restaurant. Yeah.
24:10Well, only if you have a steak in it. Yeah. Yeah. So that's his mother's and his dad's and all that went together. Oh, that's all right. They don't care. But I, you know, you never know. But I never really liked Greek food until I met him. Right. When did you guys meet? How'd you guys meet? He stalked me. What? He was persistent. and then um yeah no but then i felt i like a stalker really yeah i like someone i think i'm very shy that like if you have to fucking beat me down and be like i want you i want you then i'm like i fucking love you then i'm a lifetimer yeah then i'm not going kind of similar yeah in terms of relationships like romantic relationships like you need to be like i want you we're doing this or else i'll just be stubborn yes because it's like something i don't know maybe it's my i don't know what it is but he had to lock it down probably probably anxiety anxiety i love how open you are about your anxiety do you think like when you go to bed like are you anxious every night no when i wake up i'm anxious got it nighttime is when you're free i'm so tired i want to watch a show you guys do you hear that rumbling it's getting closer it's getting closer it's here happy prime day everyone prime day is finally here and prime day is now from june 23rd through 26th and strike what you know what they say strike while the iron's hot right okay prime day is the day to shop online so that thing you've been putting off you can be like well i can justify it because it's prime day for example you guys know i've been wanting a new tablet and i've been putting it off, but Prime Day left me no excuses.
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27:03This is the best day of my life, by the way. I love you down. I love you down. I'm dead. When you tell me that, I get so excited. Why don't you jump in jacks or something? I literally damned you being like, I need you in my life. Like, I need to start texting you. Can we start texting? Yes, please. I love to text. Do you play like the Wordle? Who? A Wordle? Never mind. Do you watch TikToks? I'm trying. Are you a real person? I do like voice mel-mel-s. I don't like no technology. I do like voice notes. Okay, okay. That's what I'm good at. Right, right, right. I need to take a bite of this grinder.
27:36Yes, try it. Do I just eat it as is? Yeah, you put it together. and then you just chop at it. Very Italian. Mmm. What the fuck? Yeah, it's so good. You got it, sir? Yes, of course. We have salads. We have desserts. We have a Nutella pizza. Yo. I'm not even... You can tell when I'm lying. Like, this food is fucking insane. It's cute. It's good. This is... Italians made this food. They did. Well, Billy's Greek, so... Well, yeah. But so the part of Greece that he's from is like right next to the part of Italy that I'm from. So it's wild. So it's like a boat ride away. Do you guys ever go? Yes. Yes, to Greece.
28:10Yes, please, God. It's the worst. It's the biggest fight. We broke up about it many times. What? Yeah, he's obsessed. With going on vacation to Greece? He's obsessed. It's like, oh, I have to hear about it every single holiday, every time I'm happy, every time I'm sad, every family event. We have to talk about Greece. Like, what do you – give me an example. Do you know anyone Greek? Wait, I'm like – we actually went to couples therapy about Greece. Wait, give me an example. Give me an example. But we're talking, we're talking, we're talking. Hi. Hi, Billy. You know, I got to go to Greece this summer, right?
28:45Well, Billy, I can't. I'm filming a show. I got to go to Greece. This is what I did all summer long. And my father, my brother, you know, we got to go to Greece. My daughter needs to speak Greek. And my daughter needs to go. It's like all day. It could be Christmas. But in Greece, like it's like Greece. It's like, yes, it is. It's all you do. And then he blasts Greek music, like Greek music in the car. And he smacks the windshield. And he smacks this. And it's just like, that's what Greeks do. And I get mortified. and it's not hot. And you know it, Billy. And my daughter gets so ashamed. She does.
29:16So you don't like Greece? I like it. Like, I'm so happy I got to, like, do it and go. I don't need to go every summer. You're not a vacation person, are you? I love vacation. Oh, you are? I thought you liked staying at home. I love being home, too, though. Okay, sweet. Oh, no, I get FOMO when I'm not home. Okay, I get FOMO, too. You do? Like, all my friends are in Monaco right now. I kind of have FOMO. But, like, you didn't go to Monaco? I went, but then I left. But aren't you happy to go and be like, I want to go home? But you know what? I got to leave and I said, I literally said, I was like, you know what?
29:44Like, trust the higher power. Yeah. And then I went to the Knicks and I saw the biggest comeback in sports history. And it's like, thank you. Yeah. It's literally like, thank you. Because you don't need to be everywhere. You can just be close to home and have that experience. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. What's the best concert you've ever been to? It's Britney, bitch. You saw Britney? Yes. Which tour? When she was doing the circus tour. Oh, you saw. Good. And you know who else is really good? Beyonce. Whoa. That's Beyonce. It's what tour did you see of Beyonce? Halo. Right when Michael Jackson died.
30:14You saw the Sasha Fierce? Oh. No. Right when Michael Jackson died, she sang that song Halo. And I remember just crying my eyes out because she was so beautiful on stage. She was like an angel. Uh-huh. You know? And you can feel things. You know how you might meet your favorite celeb and you might always love them, but then you see them and you're like, you ain't shit. Yes. Or whatever. You don't have that bad. You know what I mean? And then you meet someone that you already thought in there, like just glowing. That's how they both were to me. We were talking about Beyonce on the ride over today.
30:39We said she just glides. She was like an angel. I was like, she is like, I felt it. Like, you know? Yeah. Right. Yeah. Okay, do you want to get into the tell me what's wrongs? Oh, I love a tell me what's wrong. This is where you give advice. Okay, I give you advice? No, you give the pussies advice. Okay, pussies. Let's go. I love it. Let's have another bite of my grinder because it is that good. I'll sip my drink.
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33:56Are you hungry? Well, of course I'm hungry, but I feel like you need to like go to Greece with Angie Kay. So I met her. I feel like she'll change your life about how you feel about Greece. So you don't go to Italy either? I love Italy, but I like a city. Oh, fair. So I like, I love Rome. I love Paris. I love London. But Greece, it's... She's got a lot of Greek haters. I love Greece so much. No, and I do. I just, I'm so happy I went. I feel like we can have a special of you and Angie Kay like going to Greece and her changing her mind. Have you met Angie Kay? I did meet Angie Kay. I met her at the girls' trip, the ultimate girls' trip.
34:32You did ultimate girls' trip? What did I do? Did I do that? I just know what I did. It was like the all cast. The Bravo rep is shaking. Wait, what did I do? Very calm. I think it was. It was like the one that all the girls got together. They were traveling. And so it was like the grand finale. And Angie Kay was there. And I was like, oh, my God. I have to go up to you because you're Greek. And Billy loves being Greek. We hear about it all day long. And do you love Grease? You guys just went. And she was like, I love Grease. And she was beautiful and so nice. Gorgeous, gorgeous. High body count hair.
35:05Not on her. No. Do you watch any other housewife shows? I used to love the old Jersey. I haven't watched a new one. I was obsessed with Jersey. People are saying that you guys are giving old Jersey. That gives me life because that's why I used to watch it. It reminded me of my family. Yeah. My aunt. So I felt like I was like in my kitchen or my dining room table sitting with them. And I also love Utah. Salt Lake. Yeah. Best. For sure. Was Kelsey's boyfriend or her old ex-boyfriend, the one that paid for everything? Like, how did she get him to agree to filming in the house? I heard that maybe that wasn't his house.
35:38So I don't know. Me and her never talked about that. So that's a true story. I swear to God, I've never asked. And I just kind of let her do her thing. Okay. And what's up with Rosie at the news station? She was the best newscast girl. Everyone thought she was so hot. Wait, but so what was it a thing in Rhode Island though at the time like oh Rosie's doing the news? I didn't watch the news then. So that's what you're talking about. I never watched the news Yeah Didn't watch the news. So I didn't know who she was. Is that is that what you mean? Like I thought like was she like the talk of the town that she was the news anchor my yeah But I think with like what she will say for Rosie.
36:14Yeah, my stepdad thought she was beautiful like the older crowd Yes, got it. And then why did she leave the job? She had colitis and she was bleeding through her ass she said which I almost died I said oh my god girl you are so real I'd rather die than say that on TV but that's why I love Rosie but then didn't Kelsey say she lost the job because of an affair that's not true not true that's so not true okay not true no promise that's false and I think that's why Rosie has such a hard time with her okay right because she's like you're making shit why don't they get along what do you think it is alright so I think that Rosie's not originally from Rhode Island and so like we know like the people that are from Rhode Island we know the whole background story of everyone.
36:54Like, I know Kelsey. I know everything about her. So, like, the fact that we didn't know who Rosie was and her background story, and we were just going off of rumors, and I think that's what it was. Mean girl, a little. It was more like a mean girl, but yet she was like, I don't know your background story, and I'm trying to figure you out. Yeah, but you had Rosie's back. But Kelsey's actually sweet. She seems sweet. But to her and Rosie, they aren't sweet together. Like, they're not good together. Was the reunion, did things get nasty? They're just, they're always gonna be like, you know you know but i see kelsey in a different light but rosie's obviously i'm very close to rosie real honest answer what goes through your mind when ashley cries like good feet i don't i i'm i'm like waiting for her i feel like it's like you know it's like oxygen to like breathing it's like okay is it time if she doesn't cry i'm offended if she cries i'm a little offended but if she doesn't cry i'm offended yeah yeah i want her to cry that's who she is oh love that yeah have you been to ashley's restaurant yes well You went for trivia night.
37:50That I know. Right. But did you eat there? It's good. It's great. Billy loves it. Yeah. Billy? Yeah. Yeah. He loves it. It's cute. It's a vibe. Okay. As a restaurant owner, you think it's going to stay open? Yeah. I think so. Oh, yeah. I think especially now. Right. Right. Especially now. Like, he's vested. What is in this wine? Oh, I finished the thing. Let's have more. That's what's going on. We have a pour. A re-pour. A re-pour. Right away. A re-pour. Fuck me. But the only way out is through, huh? I know. That's why you got to keep going. Oh, my God. I'm obsessed with you. I'm sick. Keep going.
38:20I always quote the hair of a dragon, but I guess it was the hair of a dog. And this summer is like giving. Oh, thank you, Billy. Do you guys want pizza? Yes, they do. They're starving. All right. Everyone's starving. Let's eat. Let's eat. Pizza for everyone. We love food. I can just tell that you have such a good soul. I do. No, I'm very real, but I 1 ,000 % do. You do. You have so much love to give, and it's such a joy to see on my television. So I feel like I've been through a lot. Yeah. And I also, animals love me. Babies love me. And I was a hairstylist my whole life. I've talked to women and men about their problems.
39:00Right, okay. So I just, like, I empathize with people. Like, I feel things. Some people can just, like, move on. I feel, like, people's energy. You're an empath. Yeah. And I understand it, and that's why I was, like, a flip-flop at the beginning. Because, like, I don't want to judge people. I didn't think you were a flip-flop. I actually didn't think you were a flip-flop. I thought you were just trying to see every side. Thank you. Yeah. No, but I really did. I was like, Joellen, flip-flop. She is. She's the one that gave me the name. Love Joellen, Jo Mellon. Love her. Love her down. But she is a flip-flop.
39:30But you, to be a flip-flop, you have to be calculated. I'm not. And you're just genuinely trying to understand everyone's POV. I wish I was more calculated to be on the show. I have no time. I'm 80 day. I can't even do homework. I can't balance a schedule. What homework? I just like can't do any. Like I have homework. Like if I like for the way for the business of this. But I wish I envy that about Joellen. Wait, what? Like what would like homework? Like what would homework look like? Like for like just like certain things. Like we have to do this. We have to do this. Like I don't like homework.
39:59I don't even like my daughter's homework. I get overwhelmed when she comes home. Does she ask you for help? I'm not good. So she goes to him now. Do you help? Yeah, I don't do the homework no more. I'm not good at it. So. Right. Not my thing. Does she like school, Selena? loves loves she's my daughter she's social what was high school like for you in Rhode Island what was it like like would you go to Friday night football games like so you're gonna skeeve me but I'm gonna be honest with you I was very popular no I really was like were you had queen bee I was just like but like in a genuine way I was friends with everybody I wasn't just friends with the popular girls I was friends with like everybody I loved all groups but I was like I would have to hide So, like, if I went to the market.
40:45And I also have a very big family in Rhode Island. Right, right. So in high school, like, I couldn't smoke a cigarette, put it this way, because I would get caught. I couldn't cut classes. I would get caught. Everyone was always trying to protect me. So you've always been famous. Like, when I was young. Billy, what happens when I hide from people? Tell them. I hide. What do you mean you hide? Like, so, like, we'd be at Garden City. I'd be like, oh, God. And I love people, but I also, you need your downtime. You need your downtime. So, yeah, like people, yeah. When did the doll obsession begin?
41:16I've always loved dolls. Uh-huh. When I, if a doll's hair was out of place, I would smash it and throw it as a kid. I think I had OCD, but no one knew about it. Oh, I have OCD. I think I do too. How does it manifest for you? Not well. Not well, bitch. No, it's bad. And it's the point where, like, I don't let my daughter play with her dolls as much upstairs. But now she is, I'm getting better. My house, my blanket. Like today when I told you my daughter came here and she did never hear. Like I have, I like things, I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. I can't explain it. I like things groomed. Yeah.
41:53Yes. You know? Okay. So these are the tell me what's wrong. We give the pussies advice. Okay. Okay. My wedding is next summer and my fiance and I, oh my God, you're going to hate this one, are going to Greece. Okay. Why? For two weeks for their honeymoon. Okay. Oh, I kind of love the chaos. They're pissed. We have had this planned for months. One of my really close friends just said she wants to have her wedding a week after mine. I told her I'd be on my honeymoon and wouldn't be able to go to her wedding. And she said, yeah. Like, I don't give a fuck vibes. What should I do? I'm really sad about it, but don't want to seem selfish for being upset.
42:32Okay, so it's a week away. She told her about it. And is she more mad that her friends are more like, no, I don't give a fuck? Yeah, that's what she's upset about. All right, so I would be like, you know what? I'm so sorry. I would still give my peace so I could sleep at night. And then also, just enjoy your wedding. And let her focus on hers and let them let you, girl. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Because that's you have to say your peace or if it's gonna eat you up in life. Like, it will eat you up alive. Even if it's not right. Right. Right? Like, even if it's not right, like, you feel how you feel.
43:03You feel how you feel. And if you don't feel right and you're like, I don't like the way this landed, I still want to tell you I'm really upset. I can't go, but I need you. I don't want to. I want you to enjoy your wedding. I'm going to enjoy mine. Do you think she should tell her I'm upset that you don't seem to care? Yeah, I would be like, oh, my God, how are you not sad, girl? Like, yeah, like we're besties. I want to be there. I want you to be there. Like it bothers me, you know? Yeah. Maybe her friend doesn't know how to be emotional right now. Maybe she's just like caught up. Right. Right.
43:28And by the way, I just would like Nolan, tell me what you think. Are you not? Oh, I we need to see that. We need I'm so excited, oh my God. No, bitch, I told you. That is so incredible. It's like actually - Insane. Insane. Insane. Chicken bacon ranch used to be my favorite in college. Got me through life. Where'd you go? I went to school in Ohio, a really small school in Ohio. Okay, because that's like, that's one of his, okay. Yeah, and this is insane. Yes, that's like the number one seller. Like when I was drunk, this would save my life. Yes, girl. I really want you to know that you have - New York.
44:06No, it's so, you gotta go for the, you gotta go for the experience. I mean, I want success for you, so I do want it in New York. You should do a pop-up. Do a pop-up. Do a pop-up. Please. I would do a pop-up. I wanna do like a bigger restaurant with a bar, like a cute bar, you know what I mean? Like I wanna do it like cute. What would you call it? Pizza Mama. Oh, oh, you wanna do like a bigger Pizza Mama. This was like the, this was like the express store. It was like the tryout because he didn't trust me. Right. You know what I mean? With the whole vibe. Do you trust her now? I trust her ideas.
44:36Okay. Good answer. But I really do. She gets it in a way that I don't and don't see it. But to run the business, we'll leave that on my side of things. Well, 1 ,000%. That's fine. I know, but that's why it's a good team. I thought this was crazy. People love it. Yeah, and it's this big. Good food, good people. That's all that matters. It was small. This was supposed to be a quick thing, get it up and running. it was a little different than what we usually do. And we were, I was just going to sell it. Like it was going to be a quick flipper. And she didn't like the name. So business. We're so not alike.
45:11Yeah, no, but that's right. Why? You can't be so alike. Or else that's not, I know. But see, your story is like a history teacher. I feel like it's like very history. She makes me laugh. Yeah. Do you just laugh all day with her? Most of the time. He does. And then I get mad and he laughs. I said, all right, I wasn't even being funny. I think you are a history teacher. about. You like history? It's your favorite historical event. My favorite historical event? I mean, I love the story about the Peloponnesian War. It's so boring. So not my type. What? No, it doesn't matter. Yeah, I don't like history.
45:44Yeah, I don't either. I like him. He tells me history. I said, I can't be bothered. I also can't be bothered. Yeah. Some of it I do. I'm good at improv. I used to do improvisation. Yeah. And I would, like, improvise historical skits. Yes. Like Romeo and Juliet. Yes. 1 ,000. Romeo and Juliet. Is that history? It should be if it isn't. Is that poetry? Is that English? I don't know. Whatever. You're lying. No, I swear. You think Romeo and Juliet actually happened? I wish it did. It didn't. It's Shakespeare. He's a poet, but that's still like, I feel like it had to happen in history. He's like, is he a poet?
46:26I feel now I'm like, is he? I don't know. Billy? That's where I was going. Billy. Is Shakespeare a poet or is he just a storyteller? Yeah, you're right. I knew you were right. I knew you were right. All right, we don't need to get into the details. It's a quick quest. My boyfriend will not stop sending me Instagram reels. Like one out of the 20 of them are funny or interesting and it's becoming an ick that he's scrolling so much. I think he may be a little down in the dumps though so I don't want to pile this on top. How do I be gentle about it or should I just ignore it? I would ignore it. Billy does it to me all the time.
47:02I just, I actually feel bad when Billy does it. I'm like, oh, he must miss me. He's, maybe it's like a card that he should have sent me or, yeah, no. I just, I just, I don't even answer them. I put them on silent. You have Billy on, you have him on silent. Yeah, what is it, Cole, and you just. Do not disturb. Yeah. I get it. Yeah, I don't answer them. He sends me a thousand. So I get you, girl. Does your daughter have a cell phone? No. Good. iPad. Good, okay. On restriction. Good. I didn't have a cell phone until I was 12, 13. And I needed it to go and do stuff. I don't believe in it too young.
47:34Yeah, I completely agree. And she's going to be a better person for it, by the way. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Kids are getting way too young these days. It's like a drug for people. It's a drug for me. It's a drug for me. Yeah. When I do a post and I get likes, I'm literally like, it feels like I just worked out. Isn't that crazy? It's a literal drug. I feel like we're the guinea pigs for that experience. You know what I mean? I miss, I miss like other stuff, you know, like I, I hate that I go through my phone. I didn't know how to use my phone before. I started for the show, by the way. I didn't even know, I didn't even know how to use Instagram.
48:04I didn't know how to take a picture, nothing. Well, now you have Owen. But now I'm, yes, now I have Owen that helps me so much. But I hate that I rely on people. Like, did I look good to see on Instagram? But you always look good. You know? You always look good. But it's still hot. It's like, I never relied on that. Do you feel like, is it weird perceiving yourself? Like watch, perceive you? Is that weird? It's weird because it's like I don't ever want to stop talking about crackers. That's who I am. I eat them all the time. You know? But people love that. People responded well. But now I'm like I think that people are going to be like oh she's a stop talking about a cracker but I don't realize I'm talking about it.
48:36It's just my nervous it helps me. It's like instead of doing drugs I do crackers. Right. You know? Would you ever just like not read the comments? Do you not read or do you just log off? I've been getting better. I think you just need to log off and be you. Yeah. And then good things will come. Yeah. Because you are her. Yeah. I don't want to read the comments anymore. They take my phone. I almost fistful. I tackled her this week. Good friends, by the way. Good friends. I literally tackled her. I was like, no, show me what she said about me. And she was like, get my phone. I'm lucky you have them.
49:09I have Amani here. She calls me and she's like, did you see what they said about you? Yeah, no, but guess what? Sometimes it's like, you know, ignorance is bliss. And I've lived that way my whole life. So I think it is, if I want to stay the same, I think I have to like block out the noise. Right, right, right. I'm in law school and hate all of my peers. They're snobby, preppy, know-it-all assholes who dress bad and are probably going to be sleazy lawyers. It sounds whatever, but it's genuinely making me rethink my career path and want to drop out. I want to do good things with this life, so how do I not let them win?
49:38Oh, my God, girl. Like, who cares who they are? Be you, shine, and your light will be so bright. Let them lose. Let them be the sleazy lawyers that they are, and you do you. Stay true to who you are. Done. And people will love that. You give really good advice. I don't. Do you think so? I think you do. Well, I was a hairstylist. I did it for years. FYI. Oh, what's the craziest story you heard when you were a hairstylist? I've heard them all. What's the craziest one? Dang. You don't even know. They have who slept with whose husband. They were switching and swapping, and they both didn't think that they knew it, but I knew about it because they knew, but they weren't.
50:09It was a nightmare. No, it was a lot. I've always heard stories, and that's why I loved my job, because I loved listening to people. When did you stop being a hairstylist? Like, maybe two months before the show. started yeah would you ever go back or you have time no i'm done been there done that i did it since i was like 16 so but now kelsey is hairstylist yes is she booking clients i don't know i don't know she i don't she's i think she might do weddings but she's not like a i don't know is her ex still paying for everything i don't i don't think so i hope i don't know did you know her boyfriend um i ran into him a few times was he hot yeah he was like a good looking like he was a catch back in the day for sure oh like did you go to high school with him no no okay he was just like you know i just think that um when you have that much money you have like a aura to you oh i kind of agree yeah and that's what he had you know it's like big dick energy yes bde bd bd my partner is an actor and just landed a role in something the issue is while i'm super happy for him because of how competitive it is out there he told me there are multiple sex scenes.
51:16He plays like the fuck boy. I'm sure it's all professional and good and I haven't said anything about it, but it does genuinely bother me. And we've never talked about that or really thought about it, but now I'm uncomfortable. I want to support him and I will, but how do I get over this in the meantime? Go out with your friends and take hot pictures with all different single people. I kind of agree. It's like, that's his job too. Yeah. Like you knew he's an actor, like you knew what you were signing up for, but that is tricky. I want to kill Billy, but I would be out every night of the week and my best outfits working out, taking care of myself.
51:44So no bitch can compete. Oh, I haven't been able to work out in weeks because my wrist hurts so bad. What happened to your wrist? Tentinitis. Oh, why? How? I was doing pull-ups. Oh, no. I can do 12 in a row. You're so cute. I love you. I couldn't even do one. I couldn't do one, and then you start doing them, and you start doing it with a resistance band, and then you just work your way up, and you get there. But my wrist, look how swollen. You gotta wrap it. I know. I've been wrapping it. I got acupuncture. I fell asleep at the acupuncturist. I fell asleep. There was, like, a heater over me. It was burning my head.
52:11The whole thing knocked over. Oh, no. Wow. Yeah. Are you kidding? I swear. And he gave me like a little button to press for help. And the button fell out when I fell asleep. So I was screaming, help, help, help. That place is scary. No, I mean, he clearly knew what he was doing. He put the last needle in and I was out. Okay, good. No, oh my God, I'm going back tomorrow. I'm kind of hooked. All right, good. There you go. See, I love it. It's a party. Yeah, we'll go together. The next time you're in New York, you'll love it. Yeah. I have a really hard time becoming friends with my other friends' friends, if that makes sense.
52:39So like, yeah, I get that. I get it. Like, I have my group, and when we party, they introduce me to all these people, and I swear I turn into a brick wall. Like, honestly, I just don't care, and I'm worried they think I'm rude for it. Do you think there's a balance between pleasant and honest, or do I just need to be fake? Fake it until you make it, have a drink, loosen up, and don't think about it too much. Because when you think about it too much, you turn into a stone wall. Just have fun. Right. Vibes. You might have something in common, you know? Just start to drink. Have a drink. Like, a half a—even if you don't drink, have, like, a few sips.
53:08Everyone's friends after a few sips. That is very true. You know what I mean? When did you first start? Like, how old were you when you had your first drink? I think I was, like, 16, 17. You know, I was, like, a very good girl. And I had, like, a few, like, sips and I was wasted. I'm still, like, very much of a lightweight. Right, okay. Got it. Which I love. I mean, it's the best thing in the entire world. But I get hangovers very easily. Do lightweights get hangovers more than heavyweights? Yes. Okay. Because it sucks. When people can like drink all night and then go out and work out the next day when I'm in bed.
53:41And they had 10 drinks. I had two. And I'm like in bed. Like that pisses me off. Yeah. What's your hangover result like? Oh, I'm terrible. I do the eye patches. Billy. Billy. You know. Billy. I can't get it. But yeah, Billy. Billy. Peppermint oil. Tylenol. Liquid IV. And TB. Do you ever get an IV? Or do you not like needles? Oh, I love an IV. I love an IV. We are so similar. I love an IV. But I wish they came to my house when I had a hangover. I'm not driving. They can come to your house. I don't have a place that comes to my house yet. This is prime opportunity for any IV person to go to Alicia's house and give her an IV.
54:13Please. And I also get tired all the time of a fragile flower. Yes. My energy. Please help her. Yes. Help me. She can't drive. I'm tired. I'm fragile. I get weak. Seriously. My roommates got a second cat without asking me. I was already generous with the first one. And they're like a couple. so my friend's boyfriend already had one when he moved in. But they came home the other day saying they found it on the street and decided to help it. Very sweet of them, but they got attached and want to keep it. I'm going to kill myself. Please, what should I do? Oh, my God. See, I love animals. Wrong question.
54:46Just, you know, you might, like, play with a cat. Catter. What's your favorite animal? I love a dog. I love a pig. I love a horse. I love a fig. I love a fig. I just made that up on Cameo just now. That's what just happened. Yeah. Wait, did you do that on purpose just now? or did? No, I literally love a dog. I love a cameo, but you know, I love all animals. You know, your cameo sounds have gone viral. I had to get off. Why? Which I'm so sad about. Why? Bravo said enough. No, it was just like getting to, I felt like I was trying to please everybody and I couldn't get them all out and it was taking up too much of my day and I was getting headaches so I was like, I need a break.
55:20You know what you do? You bring them back for like one day and one day only during Christmas, the holiday season when people are feeling sad. But I love them. I feel like it helps me. So why don't you just do, Owen, can you help her get back on Cameo? Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, it was too much, though. I was, like, wasting my day looking at my phone. You need to have someone make the Cameo, put the phone away, watch TV. Yes, yes, yeah. So, one a day, maybe. One a day. One a week. So, I've been completely in love with one of my closest friends for a while, and she is giving such mixed signals. She's always dating or talking to some random guy, but she keeps telling me that she would much rather be dating a girl.
55:55She drunkenly pulled me aside at a bar to kiss me one night, but claims it was just silly fun. She's actually so evil. How do I move forward to something better? Go make out with another girl right in front of her and see how jealous she gets. If she doesn't get jealous, she doesn't give a shit. Yeah. Hello, right? Yeah. You give great advice. Oh, because I've been there, done that with this all. Yeah, right. By the way. I've been really annoyed lately when people tell me I'm a really nice person. Growing up, I always thought it was a compliment, and I wanted to be known that way. But recently, as I navigate the back half of my 20s, I'm realizing I just might be coming across as a pushover, and I have no backbone.
56:28I will always be a good friend and person to the people I love, but I don't want to be a doormat. What's your advice to change my narrative? First of all, there's nothing wrong with being nice. That's what I think, too. You know what I mean? And if people have a problem with that, that's their problem. Let them go hang out with all the devils and the assholes and then see where they're going to always want to go back to the nice person. Right. So they didn't live enough. Exactly. Tell them they didn't live enough. Is Dolores going to be filming more next season or no? I don't know. I hope so. I do like her.
56:55I do. How long have you known Dolores? I only met her when she set a film with us. Okay. But I watched the show, and she was always one of my favorite housewives. Yeah, yeah. She was on New Jersey, right? Yes, and I love Jersey. Yeah. I was a big Salt Lake, Beverly Hills, and I just kind of got through a few seasons of New York. Yeah. I never watched New York. I need to. It's great. Yeah. Scary Island is great. But it's just, I think, at the time, do you know what I'm talking about, Scary Island? No. Okay. So they all went on a girls' trip, like Bethany Frankel and them, and Kelly Ben-Symon, and went to psychosis.
57:29Oh, really? Yeah, like... Really? Yeah. All right, I gotta watch this. Scary Island? Yeah, but it's like, for now, that's an episode of Rhode Island, you know? Yeah, yeah. But now it's like, at the time, it was so major. Right. Am I explaining this right? Yeah. I need to watch Scary Island. Did you ever watch Bad Girls Club? No. America's Next Top Model? No. A little bit, I watched it. Okay, okay. Those were my reality shows back in the day. For you. Okay. Car troubles follow me like a damn shadow. I cannot catch a break where it's almost like every other month something is wrong with my car. I'm convinced that I have like actual voodoo bad luck.
58:05I know you can't help with that. But what are ways I can keep my cool? I always lose it every time something like this happens. And I'm tired. Oh, my God, girl. I feel you. Girl, oh, boy. I feel you. I get it. Especially with your car. You're like, I'm so tired. It's so much money. It's like a money pit. You want to know what? Just keep going. It'll come back and move on. Just like let it go. What do you mean? Just keep going. Let the car fucking run itself into the ground. Yeah. So push it down. Push it down and let it keep going. Until it all explodes. Something's going to come good out of it.
58:35You know? There'll be a good part of it. Has that ever happened where you push something down and then something good happened? Yes. It's crazy. That's why I said that. Like what? Just like so many accidents and this and that. And then all of a sudden it's like a good thing happens. And you're like, you know what? This is why I went through hell. It's wild. I know it's crazy, but like literally it happens. It happens. I love the way you live life. I'm trying to live. You're living. I'm living. Have you ever been to Vegas? Yes. I would love to go to Vegas with you. I love Vegas. How long can you stay there though?
59:06Three days, four days. I love to shop and I like the shows, you know. Uh-huh. I love a nightclub. I love to shop. Yes. Shopping's the best. Retail therapy is real. That's real. It's real. That's really healing. That's real to me. Me too. Yeah. It is. Hey Jake, this girl that lives in the door across from Mars keeps asking to get ready and go to parties and events with me and my best friend. We are barely friends with her, but I feel so bad saying no. It honestly impacts our environment every time because it's awkward and we have to make a lot of conversation. So you're meeting a new person. How do we solve this without being mean to her?
59:35You don't. Just hang out with the girl. Just like go leave the room and never let her see you. I would take off. Oh, you wouldn't hang out with her? Oh, was she like... They're like, I feel bad. This girl clearly doesn't have many friends. Oh, just go. Go for an hour and then take off so you go to the bathroom. You don't feel good, but go. Yeah, right? Like it probably makes her day or her night. Yeah, go. Go. Yes. My boyfriend was blacked out on a night out and literally got arrested for assaulting an officer. This is so incredibly out of character for him as he pretty much never drinks. He handled it well and paid his own bail.
1:00:04Good. Well, I'm glad. We've been together almost a year. Is this a red flag or a one-off incident? Oh, I mean, I would consider it a red flag, but give him another try. You never know. Red flag, though. To an assault an officer, what do you think? That's a big deal. Probably, probably. But maybe he was just drunk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just keep the alcohol away from him. Yeah, maybe he's bad with alcohol. Yeah. Well, Alicia, what did we learn today? I learned so much about different people, but I also learned that you've never had a grinder. You didn't know what a grinder was. You got to have a pizza chip.
1:00:37I'm about to house this the second we're done. And I think you're so incredible, and I'm so happy that you love The Housewives of Rhode Island. It is the best show on television. If you haven't seen it, watch it. I won't watch it, so that's why. Right, right. Good for you. You shouldn't. Well, you probably actually should. Yeah. Right? Because for the reunion, don't you have to like prep? Yes. Yeah. I had to do that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You sat right next to Andy though, I saw. I did. I like Andy a lot. I love Andy. Yeah. He's awesome. I was like so nervous when I first met him. I was like, oh my God.
1:01:07Like I was like starstruck. And then I was like, he's so nice. Yeah. I loved him. Yeah. He's awesome. Yeah. Bye pussies. I love you all. Thank you for being a pussy.
1:01:28I have to call someone. I have to call Manny. Who's Manny? FaceTime Manny. Is this about me? Is this about me? Hi! Where are you? Why aren't you here? Why aren't you here? Hi! We have pizza chips. My grandma is visiting. I'm literally on my way to go get her lunch. Oh my God, you're so cute. I love that you love your grandma. You're so cute. I love my grandma. but I also love you. I'll meet you one time. We have to meet. And I'm so sad. No. I love her dog besides you. What kind of dog? Oh, why are you talking to my dog? Because I love dogs. No, you don't know what I am like with dogs. I'll go to Bible Dye.
1:02:08What kind of dog? I'm so sorry. It's okay. It was a Chihuahua Italian Greyhound mix. That's my dog, Wolfie. Why are you doing this? Billy, a Chihuahua. That's my dog. I am so sorry. I live for that dog. Don't do this to me. Wolfie. What was your dog's name? I'm so sorry. How old? He was 15. Oh, 15's a good age though. I have failed hope. Okay. He was 16. Oh, 16. So we lived a good life. Okay, Manny, well, we love you. Manny, we love you. Sorry about that dog. I love you both. Love you, Manny. I miss you. Thank you so much. Bye.
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