Session 131: Belmont Cameli

26:03For me, I don't know. My wrist hurts. My back hurts. Like, I'm, like, feeling it in my body. Like, I think my Saturn is coming. Okay. And so that's when it comes back around to the same place that it once was. When you were born. Right. Basically just, like, realigning your life, being, like, what do you need? What's happened to your wrist? I have de Quervin's tendinitis. Okay. It's basically when the tendon is really inflamed. and it like so but right now it's like fine but like a week ago if i went like this this right here like that yeah the tendon i think that's what that is pops over the muscle oh that sounds painful it feels like someone's lighting a match to your tendon as it's going over the muscle i'm sorry oh no it's okay i just made up my whole personality for like a month but it's fine but But also, because is this affecting your routine?

26:58Yeah. Jake, you've been in the gym like nobody's business, brother. Yeah. How do you know that? Jake, I follow you on Instagram, you dingus. I know. I have been in the gym, okay? Yeah, you have. How long has your fitness journey been going on now? Three years. Great. And it's very humbling to see before and after. So I was like, you know. Yeah. That's what it's all about. I was. Progress. I was in the gym. and I was doing pull-ups. Yeah. And my wrist hurt one morning and I knew I should have just like let it go, but I kept doing them. Okay. And then I got like a massage on the wrist, which made it kind of worse.

27:38And then - A good old wrist massage. And then I started traveling. And then once I started traveling, it was game over. I got a cortisone shot, traveled the next day, so the shot didn't do shit because like also, well, I went to the first doctor and the first doctor was like, here's your cortisone shot and here's steroids. and then I went to his second doctor and he was like, he gave you a shot in like the most random place of your arms. But he was really hot the first one. Right. So I wasn't complaining. Thank you sir by having me. But now the cortisol shot is really working so I'm going to start working out again tomorrow.

28:07Great. But I've been smoking a lot so I'm really out of breath and so it's going to be hard to get back in there but I'm going to go back in. Okay, let's go back real quick and I'll tell you how I stopped full stop smoking weed. Tell me what happened. So I don't know what happened because I had been smoking weed a lot like pretty much daily for a very long time since like you know high school and then at some point I guess this was when I was 23 shit no no no it was later than that it was around 24 25 when that's when I stopped when every time and this was like nightly you know because it's routine um I would like I would just freak out I would like feel my bones in my body and like be like Like, you know, I would have the classic paranoia.

28:54It was like every single time. And it was kind of like you where the first, you know, 10 minutes was like, ooh, wee, very exciting. Yeah. The rest was like really kind of unbearable. So I couldn't do it anymore. On New Year's Eve, I smoked all the weed in the house altogether. Got really scared. Really reminded myself why I'm not doing this anymore. And then for like a week, it was tough. Like at the end of the day, you know, when I'd done all my stuff, like not to spark up a joint. All you want to do is smoke. But it only took a week, maybe 10 days. I know. I know. And you've done it before. I think I'm going to stop when I go to Paris.

29:26Does getting high affect your dreams? I don't dream. Okay. See, this is it. When I was smoking weed, I never dreamed. And when I, like in your nine months, did you start dreaming more? Yeah. And I have the worst fucking dreams. I have dreams that my teeth are falling out. I have dreams that my bones are being pulled from me. Pretty sure Louise was pulling my bones once. Pulling your bones? Yes. I think you were. That's terrible. Yes, pulling them apart. Do you have any good dreams? What? Do you have any good dreams? Never. I never have a good dream.

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32:26I'm really grateful that I'm able to sit here and talk about it with so many people because when I was a kid, so many people didn't talk about it. I had no idea what I had. I had no idea what it was. And it was really, really scary to be honest. So I'm so grateful that something like NoCD exists to help people around the country struggling with OCD because so many people struggle in silence and it's really horrible. Cut the struggle in silence. My OCD is making me. Oh, my God. You guys, that's OCD. It literally was just like cut the struggle in silence. Keep that in. That's exposure therapy. To learn more about starting OCD therapy with NoCD, go to learn.nocd.com slash Jake and book a free call with their team.

33:08That's nocd.com slash Jake. Thank you again for sponsoring tonight's episode. I really love working with you guys and bringing more attention to something very important to me. What are you watching on TV right now? I don't really watch a lot of TV. I really don't. When I'm at home, I don't ever have the TV on. You got to turn it on. What do I watch? Widow's Bay. Oh, I heard this is good. It's fucking fantastic. Yeah. Fantastic. Hell yeah. It's the best show on television. Whoa. It's the best show on television. Okay. It's funny. It's scary. It's with Matthew Rhys. Yep. Who's just to die for. Yeah.

33:48Have you ever seen Homeland? Nope. There's a couple shows that I really like, but they only come out every so often. Okay. The Severance is. Oh, if you love Severance, then you need to watch Widow's Bay. Yeah. It's like the same type of spooky, funny vibe. Okay. Great. And it's both on Apple TV+. Yeah. What type of show do you like? because I'll give you a show to watch right now. I like a really hard comedy, jokes per minute, 30-minute episodic comedy. Oh, you should watch Hacks. I haven't seen Hacks. You should watch Hacks. Yeah, okay. Hacks is like one of the funniest shows on television. Okay, yes.

34:19Watch Hacks. Have you seen Girls? I've seen some of Girls. Okay, well you have to watch the whole thing of Girls. Yes, I do. Yeah, yeah. I think that's about it for me. Yeah, and then I like a big, heady drama. Like drama in what sense? Like supernatural? No. Well, I guess like an Adam McKay kind of like Severance being a good example or like Mad Men or like an intellectual drama. Really? Yeah. I think you should. It's great. Apparently it's amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People love it. Yeah. I just never got it. Did you try it and didn't get it? I tried episode one. Uh-huh. And I said, okay. My parents were like, well, you have to go to bed.

35:00We need to watch Mad Men. and I was like, what are you waiting? Like, what's going on? That's so, because every episode I would watch was so like melancholy and like solemn. And I'm like, where's the, there's nothing exciting happening. Or have you seen like, have you seen Breaking Bad? Bad, of course. Yeah, and did you see Better Call Saul? No, and I've heard it's better. It's just as good, if not better. What do you mean? It's fucking incredible. Why? Tell me why. Well, so Bob Odenkirk, I mean, you love him in that role. Love him. In Breaking Bad. Yes. He went to my high school, by the way. Okay, he's Saul.

35:34He's Saul. All day, every day, baby. Okay, okay. And Ray Seahorn is phenomenal in it. And, I mean, all the performances are great. But it tells the story of Saul kind of backwards. It starts way before you meet him in Breaking Bad. And so, like, his name isn't Saul Goodman when you meet him. What? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Fake name? Yeah, he's got a lot going on before he gets to the point where you meet him in Breaking Bad. And so it's all of that. And it's phenomenally, I mean, it's Vince Gilligan too. It's so well written. So what type of music do you listen to? All kinds of music. Tell me.

36:10Are you Spotify or Apple Music? Oh, Spotify. Right? Yeah. I never understood Apple Music. Well, I got Spotify like when there was like a student discount back in the day. I got it in 2013. Yeah, probably right around then. Yeah. I'm a Spotify guy. I listen to everything. I listen to all sorts of stuff all the time. What are you listening to right now? I'm listening to a new artist that I just can't get enough of. Their name is Blue Brigada. Okay. There's two fellas from New Zealand that are now out of New York. And they just make some, like, really fucking solid alternative rock jams. Like melodic?

36:47Some stuff. Yeah, some stuff. But it's just, like, good, like, it's just solid alt rock. What else would you consider alt rock? I don't know. Like Vampire Weekend wouldn't be considered all raw. Yeah. Oh, then I would like them. Do you like Vampire Weekend? I love Vampire Weekend. One of the best days of live music I've ever seen. I'm so jealous. I'm so jealous. I'm so jealous. Just hear me out. I'm hearing you out. It was at Lollapalooza in Chicago. Of course it was. And it was a full day. We spent the whole day at the stage. Didn't leave to pee or anything. And the first act up was Vampire Weekend.

37:24And then Two Door Cinema Club. And then Phoenix headlined. all on the same stage. And by the end of the day, we were like right up front for Phoenix. And it was one of the greatest concert experiences I've ever had. Are you fans of the other, those other two bands too? Yes. What is two door cinema club saying that I just love? I can't tell. It's what you know. Yes. I love that song. I love that song. How was it live? It was amazing. I mean, all of it was great. Vampire weekend. Did they, They do it for me every time. Me too. What's your favorite album? I should know the names. Cape Cod, Kwanzaa Kwanzaa.

38:02Is that the name of the song or also an album? Yeah, Cape Cod, Kwanzaa Kwanzaa. That's off their first or second. Yeah. I think it's their third album, Modern Vampires of the City or whatever. Yeah. Changed my life. Yeah, they're incredible. Changed my life. Do you know the song Step? Yeah, of course. I know their whole everything. Did they do that at Lollapalooza? I don't recall. This would have been like over 10 years ago. Oh, so maybe now. But Step is one of my favorite songs of all time. I actually just kind of had. It's a great song. Yeah. I just had a similar out-of-body experience at a concert.

38:29I saw The Strokes. Nice. I've seen The Strokes as well. They're amazing. Also at La Palooza. And they're fantastic. They have new stuff out, I think. They do, and it's really good. Yeah? So fucking good. Does Spotify... Are there a couple songs on Spotify that Spotify just, like, is like, this is your favorite song and I'm going to put it on every single playlist that you make? Every time you hit go-to radio, it's like, here's this song again, here's this song again. Does that happen to you? No, because I'm a, I'm a cuer. Okay. So I'll always cue. But if it, if it go and if it goes to like, no, and I haven't honestly, are you talking about the stuff that they'll like always autoplay?

39:09Yeah. It's just like yours. Like one of mine is the adults are talking. Best. Which I love. I love. But honestly, like Spotify plays it for me every single day. Well, cause they know you. They, but it's almost like don't, but instead of knowing me so well. Try to get to know me, you know? Like, ask me some questions. Right, ask questions. Well, I think their version of asking questions is the songs you add to the playlists in general. And I'm a bad playlist maker. Okay, so I only have one playlist every year. And it's the year that I am. So right now I'm 26. So my playlist is called 26. I'll send it to you after this.

39:46I can't wait to listen to, like, seven. And it's just all of the – it's like my musical diary. So I've done it since I was 18. That's really cool. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Please send it to me. I will. But the 18 one, it went from 18 to 22 because I was at college. So I just called it USC. Word. And I remember exactly where I was for each, most, like 20 % of the songs. Did they end up being huge playlists? Or are you pretty particular about what you keep on there? The USC one is like at least over a thousand songs. Holy fuck. Because it was over four years. Yeah. Oh, okay, okay. But then I had 23, 24, 25, and 26.

40:23What years? When were you in college? I was in college from 18 to 22. Oh, what year? Oh, so you went after high school. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Until you graduated. I was in college from 20... I was screaming. I was in college from 2018 to 2022. Right, which by the way... Which is why I got confused. Because I was 18 in 2018. You were born in the year 2000. I was born in 1999. Oh. At the very end. Tail end, huh? Yeah. Man, wouldn't that have sucked if the world did end and you were just like a couple weeks old? No, it would have been amazing because I wouldn't have known what was happening. Oh, true.

41:03You wouldn't have felt anything. I would have been like, oh, I just died. You'd still be wailing and then... Yeah, I would have just died. Are you scared of death? Honestly, I've been scared of death more. In a good way, I think. Okay, so... I've been thinking about it kind of a lot in the last, I don't know, chapter. Really? Yeah, yeah. It's come back. I grew up really Catholic, so that was always, I was super fearful of hell. Are you still Catholic? I'm not practicing. Okay, you're not practicing. But do you believe in a God? Yeah, I believe in a creator. Yeah. But I'm not, I don't pray. That's how I feel as well.

41:37Yeah. But I never practiced anything. I'm just like, I know there's some shit up there. Yeah, no doubt. You know what I mean? Yeah, there's got to be. And there has to be. Too much shit happened for us to be here. And that's fine. Yeah. Why are you scared of death? Well, just the permanence, I think. Yeah, that is it. yeah but the presumed permanence it is permanent we don't know though you know it could be do you believe in reincarnation I listen I would love I don't I don't know but hell yeah I want to be an animal I don't you know it's fun to think about what animal would you be though I wouldn't I want I want to you could have already been I want to be reincarnated as a supermodel girl human I want to be reincarnated as a supermodel really badly.

42:24And I want to like literally like be like, oh my God, you are like in my new life. Like just like you are so pretty. Like do you want to be a model? And I'd be like, oh my God, sure. And then, you know, everything just happens after that. You want to be reincarnated to an existing living person? Did you go to college? Very briefly. I went for one year. Where? University of Illinois. Right. Yeah. Urbana Champagne. I, in some ways, yes, and in some ways, no. Got it. Yeah. Why'd you drop out? I did not want to go to college. I get that. I was a business student. I was like a finance major, and I wanted to be a filmmaker, so I got the fuck out of there.

43:06And you just took off and moved to LA? Almost. You know, I moved to the city. I moved to Chicago for a year and a half, and I was modeling then to pay the bills and support myself. and then I got an agent in Chicago and a manager out in LA. So then I moved to LA. Tell me about the audition process for off campus. Like what did that look like? It was different for, I think all of us kind of had a different experience doing it. I didn't audition as Garrett until the very last day of auditions. I had met with our showrunners, Louisa and Gina. We zoomed and they kind of pitched me the season one arc and the character.

43:48I had questions for them about their project and we talked about it. And so then they did a chemistry read where there were 28 actors. They cast all six or seven leads in the same day. So a lot of people there were going out for a couple characters. You know, each role had like four or five actors that were there going out for it. It was crazy. But that was my first part of the audition. It was the last part of the process. So I was there until the bitter end. I had to stay and like do stuff by myself so they could have tape of me. Cause I hadn't submitted anything yet. Oh, so it was like the hunger games.

44:22It was just like the hunger games. And when some, when somebody was sent home, there was a big gong. Yeah. Yeah. It was a, it was a crazy day. I've never, I've done, you know, I've gotten to the end of audition processes like that before, but that was like, there were so many people were in one of those buildings on the bra with no windows and just like, you know, bad lighting. And we were there, I was there for like probably 12 hours. This episode of Therapist is brought to you by Booking.com. Booking dot, yeah! The other week, I watched a trip die in the group chat in real time. I've never experienced it before, but I literally watched it die.

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46:10Do you like to party? Yeah. I love to party. Yeah, I love to party. We like to party. I love to party. Yeah, we like to party. What's your drink of choice? Well, it kind of depends. I'm like, is tonight a tequila night or a whiskey night? And so, like, I had a couple tequila nights lately while I've been in town here. Well, I'm a child, so I drink vodka. Oh, Jake. I know. With lemonade or cranberry? Yes. I do vodka cranberries, vodka lemonades. Vodka, okay. And then if I'm like, you know, I'm like, you guys, I'm on a diet. I'll get a vodka soda with a splash of cranberry. And then I'll get, well, my ultimate drink, my favorite drink of all time is a vodka Red Bull.

46:54Yeah. And were you just fucking slugging those at USC? No, I was slugging AMFs. So do you know what, can I tell you what an AMF is? Yeah. It's called an adios motherfucker. Oh, okay. I don't know what's in them, but they were blue. do you ever drink an AMF? What? What was your drink? Like ranch water?

47:18I don't know what I would drink. What? It was like No, I did AMFs Whiskey Cokes and stuff for me. You never did like a Long Island iced tea? No, I did. I broke my wrist on a Long Island iced tea. Maybe that's the impetus of this injury? On a Long Island iced tea? I drank like I was in high school I drank a bunch of Long Island iced teas at this place. You were on a Long Island ice team. I was, yeah. Yeah. And I went on my friend's shoulders in the street and fell and broke my wrist. And they were like, you're fine. And this lady walked by us and was like, are you okay? Your wrist is bruised and swollen and big.

47:53And then I got in the cab and we drove to the hospital. And then my friends left me. And then my parents met me and my mom was like, oh my God, are you okay? And I was like, I'm drunk. And I've never in my life seen her so mad ever in my entire life. Because she thought someone was going to call social services because they would think that she gave me the alcohol and they had to give me like morphine for the pain. But I had to tell them I was drunk. Oh. And then I threw up all over the doctor. Did you really? Yeah. He snapped my bone back in the place and I went and I threw up all over the doctor.

48:28Was he hot or no? You know, actually, he was bad looking. Okay. This kind of makes it worse. I don't think he was bad looking But bone shit Bugs me the fuck out I can do needles I'm actually so good with needles Me too Really? Yeah yeah Do you get IVs a lot? No I mean I I give blood once in a while And then I get you know Like you know You give blood? Every year Yeah That's needles You give blood for like the greater good? Sometimes Just like you wake up You're like I want to give blood today Yeah I mean I'll be I'll be making blood all the time too oh what what do you mean you'd be making blood we're like currently in the throes of making a bunch of blood right now as we sit here speaking to each other yeah have you broken bones besides your wrist just my wrist okay have you broken bones i've broken a lot of bones yeah what bones both of my clavicles what's a clavicle the collarbone is that why he calls it clavicular i think so right right yeah but like the clavicle isn't the most like why wait you Why did he pick both of your collarbones doing what separately?

49:38No playing playing football. I broke. Oh, it makes me feel sick. I broke this left one off at the sternum here, like basically right there. And then I broke this one off at the shoulder a couple of years later during the pandemic. I was really drunk and I was on a kayak. Right. I've also broken both of my ankles and a couple of fingers. I played a lot of sports. What sport was your favorite? Wrestling. You wrestled? Yeah, I wrestled. I didn't make the basketball team in eighth grade. Okay. And I really wanted to make the basketball team because basketball is cool. And I didn't really know anything about wrestling.

50:15Basketball is cool. But I got cut from the B team basketball team in eighth grade. So I was like, fuck it. The only other sport in the winter is wrestling. And then I wrestled and I won conference that year. And I was like, oh, maybe I'm good at this. And I was decent. How do you win wrestling? You just beat everybody. But what do you? I don't understand. Like, what do you... So, there's two ways to win in wrestling. You have a team, and, like, each guy wrestles at a different weight class. Like, in high school, it's for, like... Oh, see, I could never. Because they weigh you in front of everyone, huh?

50:45Oh, they be weighing you all the time. Uh-uh. Yeah. I weigh in private. In your boxers, you get all the guys, like, from your team and the other team, and you're in the locker room, and you, like, stand next to the guy you're going to go wrestle in an hour, and, like, he's in his underwear, and you're in your underwear, and, like, you both weigh the exact same amount. and then you get out there and you eat like a little bar or like, you know, you have a snack because you're so, so hungry. And then you go leave it all out there on the mat, man. But how do you win? You either win by points or you can pin somebody.

51:13Oh, okay. Pin them on their back where they can't get up. Was it fun for you? I loved it. Yeah, I was like an angry kid. So football and wrestling, I got to get, I like. You were an angry kid? Yeah, yeah. Wait, why? I was pissed off, man. At what? Just kind of everything. My mom kept journals from when we were born until we were tots, for the first two years of our lives. And there are entries. She's like, you're 11 months old. Every time we tell you no, you laugh at us. She would be like, dear little devil. And I'm not even a year old yet. When's your birthday? Same as my mom's, actually. It's February 28th.

51:49Pisces. I'm a Pisces. I love Pisces. Me too. Yeah. But Pisces do. My best friend is a Pisces, and she gets angry too. Yeah. I've grown up quite a bit. But it's like righteous anger. You're angry for good reason. I was just curious, I think, was the thing. It was like if you told me no, I just wanted to know why. And if I couldn't know why, then I couldn't understand. Yeah, and then you just were like, what the fuck? Yeah, and then I'd just get angry. Were you good at math? Very good at math. I loved math too. Nice. What was your favorite? I love geometry. That was my favorite. Oh, okay. That was my least favorite.

52:26See, it's pretty polarizing. My favorite was pre-calc. Yeah, pre-calc was fun too. I just thought it was like a puzzle. And once I could figure it out, it was just so rewarding to like do. But I'm not the type of person that would be good at it. So the fact that I got myself to be good at it, I was like, wait, I'm kind of hurt. Did you take math like all through college? No. No, fuck that, right? No. I stopped with calculus in my senior year and I thought calculus was just so boring. Yeah, I get that. I was a math, I'm still like, I guess I haven't in a while. But during the strikes, I was a math tutor for some kids, which was really fun.

53:00You're lying. No. I was a tutor when I was a little kid. I used to tutor the other kids down the street that were a couple years younger than me. How old were the kids that you were tutoring? Like recently? Yeah. Middle school age or end of elementary school. Oh my God, did they just love you so much? And did you guys have the best time? We had so much fun. Yeah, I mean like half of it was like we would hang out. And the other half was be like, dude, you got to figure out how to do this. It's funny you mention that because I was thinking about my babysitting days because I used to babysit. Yeah.

53:27One time I was babysitting this kid and he started crying and shit his parents. So I called his parents to come home and they got really angry at me. And at the time I was like, why are you so angry at me? But now looking back at it, I'm like, well, of course they're angry at me. They hired me to take care of their kid. Right. And the second something bad happens, I called him to come home. Can you imagine? How old was he? And it's like something bad happened and it just went to the bathroom. Yeah. And I was like, stop crying. Stop crying. Oh, my God. It was so bad. It was so bad. It was so bad.

53:53It was like the worst night of my life. The money was not worth it. I'm so sorry. But babysitting is the easiest way to make money. Yes. And I needed to make money because there was nothing going on during the strikes. Nothing. And I love kids, you know. Do you want kids? Totally, yeah. I can't wait to be a dad. How many? I would like, I'm from a family of three. Both of my parents are a family of three kids. I like three kids. Okay. Yeah. I'm not like dying on that hill. I want two. Yeah. Theo and Annabelle. Theo's older Annabelle's younger Great By the way Those are actually great names Thank you so much I'm so ready to tell people When they have stupid name ideas But I respect it Yeah those are cute Thank you so much Theodore And then Annabelle Annabee for short Theo for short Because my best friend growing up Well one of my best friends growing up Was named Annabelle And people would call her Annabee And I thought it was so chic That's cute But people My friend this weekend was like I actually only see you with one kid And I think you're a boy dad And I think it's just Theo Oh I can really see that and do you know I'm recently a godfather oh congratulations thank you so much oh that's exciting and I just bought a shirt at a vintage store that says godfather and then on the back it says Jeff I don't know who Jeff is but yeah but congratulations to Jeff who's also a godfather congratulations to me and to you as well for being the godfather of course I'm so excited about it that's really cool I want to be a godfather I know do you have godparents no I do it's my aunt and my uncle okay this is great I feel like I could talk to you all day what yeah thank you yeah yeah Quit fucking screaming at me.

55:22Sorry. What's your favorite thing to do after a long day at set? Do you all hang out? Yeah, we hang out all the time. Really? Yeah. Last year, it was a lot of what we called Belmont's house, where I would have everybody over, and we would do costume parties. That's sweet. Everybody's a little busier this summer, so we haven't even done a Belmont's house yet, but I'll have the party fill in, invite out soon for it. But yeah, we hang. A lot of times we go to the park, or now we go for drives. There's a lot more one-on-ones this year. I was about to say, does it feel different filming season two with more eyeballs on it?

55:56No. What's nice is that whatever the magic of making season one was is still very much alive. It's all the same crew. It kind of just feels like we went home and we just didn't really skip a beat. It feels like we were just right back. I think in our personal lives, we are very aware of the eyeballs. but in the work of acting and performing and like working on this show, it's all the same. Got it. Yeah. Got it. You just don't get to have as much. Yeah. We're all a little busier now, you know, like it's given us some opportunities and like we'll travel a bit more. So what's really nice so far about season two is like, I'll pick up Steven and we'll go for a drive and get coffee or like, you know, like Ella and I will do the same or Jalen and I will go play catch at the park.

56:39It's, it's nice. Yeah. And you film in Toronto, Vancouver, Vancouver. So sorry. It's beautiful. in the summer there. Oh my God. What's it like? It's gorgeous. There's mountains all over and the ocean right there. And it's warm? Yeah, it's warm. It's really warm in the summer and it's really nice. It rains all the rest of the year except for the summer months when we shoot, which is, you know, that's nice. And how's the food? It's great. Vancouver's a real melting pot of cultures. There's people from all over. I've been to Vancouver in the summer actually the more that I think about it now. Yeah, I bet you have.

57:09I have. And we had a phenomenal, phenomenal meal. Yeah. At some, was it sushi? Was it sushi? That was one of the best meals of my entire life. Fuck yeah. There's great sushi. Love Vancouver. The shopping is great too. I bought a great pair of swim trunks there. Holy shit. Yeah. And I wear it every day. They look good on me even if I'm fat. What's the inseam on those puppies? They go to here. Oh. So like seven. Yeah. I wear seven. And everyone's like, you should wear shorter. You look like a long swim trunk? I do. I'm really insecure about my thighs. Okay. Get a thigh tat.

57:48yes right i wanted to get one so bad and everyone was like you can't do that do you have a thigh tat i do have a thigh tat what is it it's um do you know the band the national at all yes one of my favorite bands there's a song called graceless by them hey and the bridge is a lyric that says there's a science to walking through windows without you it's my favorite song it's kind of hard to explain but this is an image of like what those it's like a visual representation of those lyrics it's here i'd have to take my pants off to show you but it's cool right yeah okay i think i'm gonna get a thigh tat you really should i'm gonna do it i mean thigh tat's a great way to start inching back those i'm gonna do it and feel good about it i'm gonna get a thigh tat hell yeah do you have other tattoos no i've never gotten a tattoo that's a good place to start what should i get um well i mean it's crazy you don't have an octopus tattoo yeah well it just feels like too like too much yeah yeah maybe i get i see the issue with the tap for me is that i'm inherently trying to be cool.

58:46So if I'm getting a tattoo, it really needs to reign true to who I am. Okay. Like it really needs to reign true to who I am. It can't just be like a number or like my favorite stroke song because then, you know, it's like you're just trying to be cool. But that sounds like it would ring true to who you are. I guess. Maybe I'll get the street I grew up on. 181st. Oh, you get the address? I'll just get 181. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good way to start. But like the ones would look weird on a thigh, no? No. Okay. 1-8-1? Yeah. It's kind of cool. It's symmetrical. Okay. Yeah, it was good.

59:25You could either do that on your thigh or on an arc kind of like, you know, see when people get like numbers on an arc kind of like along the sternum. That would make you look so fucking tough. Okay, I'm going to get a thigh tie. You should. Sorry. You should. Okay. I'm going to get a thigh tie. I just got really excited. Okay, let's go right after this. Okay. I would. No, same. I don't have shit going on. Should we go get thigh tats? I have a good artist. Should I? I'm not even kidding. Should we go get thigh tats? Yeah, I have an open thigh. You know what I'm saying? Okay, let's go get thigh tats.

1:00:00Okay. My mom is going to kill me. Okay, but if we go get thigh tats, we also have to go get short swim trunks. Yes. Okay, let's get thigh tats. All right, I'll look into it. we could also just I mean we could just go somewhere and no no no I want a good artist we want good stuff yeah yeah my memory is non-existent at this point same I cannot for the life of me remember anything about anything I will even reconnect with old town friends and completely forget about them their names etc all I remember is that this is a person I've met and they proceed to tell me that we used to hang out all the time I'm actually getting scared what is wrong with me well a recent study just came out that dementia can start in your 30s so I would definitely check there first.

1:00:43Yeah, and look out for, I guess, aluminum. What? Right? What? Wait, what? Don't they say that like aluminum in antiperspirants and like deodorant and stuff will give you Alzheimer's? What? I can't. Everything gives you Alzheimer's. Benadryl gives you Alzheimer's. Does it? Deodorant gives you Alzheimer's. I know. Weed gives you Alzheimer's. I think you're just meant to read or like write. Yes, you have to like use your brain. Yeah. Oh, it must be the phone. It must be the phone. Yeah. I think so too. I'm so excited to get thigh tats. Me too. You should get a phone. Oh my God. Come on. See, Nolan, like sometimes you really just pick the perfect ones.

1:01:24Oh, hell yeah. And he doesn't know. And it's just like, he just, it's fate with you. Kismet. It is. I've been smoking for two years now. Oh, so my advice for that other person is maybe go to a doctor. And read. And move your brain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just take notes maybe. I've been smoking for two years now. I'm trying to be better for both my mental and physical health, but I genuinely can't quit. Every night when the clock strikes 9 p.m., I feel like I have to smoke. I've even gone as far as throwing all of my weed away and later found myself digging through the garbage. I did that the other week.

1:01:56Deep down, I know I should quit, but TBH, I love it. Help. This is for you, not me. I mean, I've been through exactly this thing. You got to replace a vice with a vice. You got to do something else. A lot of times a healthy vice is a good alternative, but for me it was like okay if i'm fucking up my lungs because i'm smoking weed every single day i'm gonna target the lungs to be the point of change so i started doing cardio which i hated doing i did not want to do cardio but then when i went and did cardio and i got done and i like my lungs fucking hurt i was like okay well you know next time when i do this they won't hurt as bad because i've stopped smoking because i've stopped smoking so like go use your lungs as a reminder that like that's what they're for.

1:02:38That honestly might have been some of the best advice we've ever gotten on this podcast. Literally ever. Because you know when you do cardio and you've been smoking for a lot and you can taste blood. I know but I reward my cardio with like a smoke. Okay. Like when I run a 5K every two weeks and every time I get back I either smoke a cigarette or a joint. Okay so maybe that's not the solution for you. No. It's not. You should just start smoking earlier in the day. Then when it comes 9pm you don't have this whole fucking debacle because you're already high. Maybe I won't smoke tonight. I'm going to smoke tonight.

1:03:08No, you are. I'm pretty sure my friend doesn't brush her teeth. Ew! It's happened two to three times now where she comes in my car and smells so bad I have to crack the windows. Her tongue often looks very white and caked and it's so gross. How do I kindly bring this up to her? You say your breath smells bad. If my breath smells bad, Alice will be like, your breath stinks. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Have you brush your teeth? Yeah, honey. That's just not acceptable. Is this like a new friend? I'm confused. Like if Julia's breath smells bad, I'd be like, your breath smells bad. What kind of friend do you have that you wouldn't tell them when their breath stinks?

1:03:36like maybe you know that only happens with that's why my number one fear is smelling bad yeah and that's why my it smells like i really don't do well with smells i hate refrigerators i hate smelling bad okay i hate cold food that's supposed to be hot and still smells like hot food yeah doesn't that give you the chills a little bit it's gross like cold spaghetti marinara and the marinara is all clumped up and you can still smell the marinara but you look at it and it's like clumped up and you touch it and it's cold i honestly you're making me i would eat that you would eat that sounds good cold pasta and whatever i love cold spaghetti i can't with you that actually sounds good do you ever smell something and it transports you back to the place that whatever wherever that used to smell like you have like a woof like any ice cream shop that smells remotely like ben and jerry's i get transported back to ben and jerry's when i was a kid yeah and i used to drink out of little water cups that's cool don't you love when that happens yeah it only happens with me with that only with ben and jerry's yeah no it happens with other stuff you just don't remember oh really yeah well when when does it happen for you whenever i walk into like a like a big like a for some reason everywhere smells like a the field house at my high school just like the big gym like whenever i walk onto a stage oh okay i'll be like oh man it feels like i'm at a tournament or something okay that happens a lot and then sometimes like uh I was in a garage in LA.

1:05:00It wasn't my garage. Somebody else's garage that smelled just like my grandmother's garage in the house that she lived in when we were kids. And I was like, holy fuck. And it like took me back like that. And then I was like thinking about all the stuff that's in the bins in her garage and like doing laundry out there and stuff. And like, it was the exact same smell and I hadn't smelled it forever. Yeah. Sometimes I feel that way about like laundry machine. Well, I think I just like how laundry like exhaust smells. Yeah. Interesting. I get that. You know, like when the steam comes out. You stand in front of it.

1:05:33Okay, so what tattoo should I get? Just get a hot dog. No, I was going to get a banana peel. Oh. Because, this is my reasoning for it, and I think it makes sense. I have a quote above my bed that says, that Manny actually painted. It says, if you slip on a banana peel, people will laugh at you, but if you tell people you slip on a banana peel, it's your laugh. That's nice. And that's kind of how I live my life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, is a banana peel... I'm going to get a banana peel. I think it's... That's what it's truest to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would you do it in like the style of like Andy Warhol's banana or...

1:06:09Ooh, yes. Oh my God, yes. But it could be cool. It could be like a take on that famous image of... Instead of it being a banana, being like the peeled version of it. Would you have it kind of like with the fucking stem up and like the... it like splatted out? Ooh. Or is it a profile with the banana? Well, this is a good question. I would have whatever tattoo artist that you're telling me about show me options. Okay, because there's different compositions for this and I'm interested in what you'd prefer. Okay. I'm going to get a banana peel. That's what it is. That's a good idea, actually. I like that.

1:06:43It's a good quote, too. Everyone's like, why do you have a banana peel? And then I can tell you why. It's because I like to laugh at myself before you can laugh at me. Bitch. Bitch. Bitch. my mom's boyfriend doesn't flush the toilet at my house and when he's downstairs he uses the bathroom near my room so it's like technically my bathroom and i constantly find his pee in my toilet literally how do i even bring this up help say you need to flush the toilet some of these problems i'm like you just need to be like flush the toilet there's a real lack of assertiveness happening with some of these pussies yes i couldn't agree more yeah i mean really a lot of these things are solved by one of my favorite things in life which is speaking plainly Flush the toilet.

1:07:20Right. You can say, your piss is in the toilet, please flush. Are you a confrontational person? I'm not out there looking for it, but when I find confrontation, I'm very comfortable within it. Okay. Yeah, because I speak plainly. And that's not to be mean. It's not also to be too polite, but people need to hear exactly what they need to hear, so it's good to just say things how they are. Right. So you keep peeing in the toilet, and then when I go in there, I'm looking at your pee. Go ahead and flush that puppy. One time when I was on a flight, I peed in the toilet right before, because I always pee right before we take off, because I have, like, really bad peeing, OCD and anxiety.

1:07:58On the airplane? Yeah, on the airplane. I always pee right before we take off. Like, right before the doors close, right before everyone finishes boarding, I'll go pee. Sorry, you go board, you put your thing upstairs. And I go pee. And then you go pee. Yeah. And I forgot to flush. I just forgot. Like, I don't know what I was thinking. I didn't really think it mattered that much. I don't know. and the flight attendant came out and said who didn't flush no way right she said who didn't flush and i said me i said me and i literally i said i'm so sorry it was me and everyone looked at me and was like why would you ever admit that right but it's not the worst it was really embarrassing but good for you i said i didn't flush and i'm so sorry and she felt so bad right because what is what's her deal like what is your deal she's like we need to flush i'm like are we on a school trip or on a fucking commercial airplane?

1:08:46Right. It's not like I took a shit in the toilet and didn't flush it. Then you could be like, who the fuck didn't flush? Right. There's a turd sitting in there right now. I peed. Literally. My crazy roommate has been tracking my location constantly. We shared Life 360 one time while going out. I forgot about it until our mutual friends told me she leaves the app open on her phone, zoomed in on my location at all times. This weirded me out, so I turned my location off and she freaked out at me and started asking people if they knew where I am even when I tell her where I'm going. You need to watch Single White Female or The Roommate with Leighton Meester.

1:09:15Okay. That's horrifying. That's very scary stuff. Well, that's why I'm saying you need to watch The Roommate with Leighton Meester because that's what happens in The Roommate with Leighton Meester. Yeah, I'm going to watch The Roommate with Leighton Meester as soon as I get the chance. Yeah, she has a roommate. And the roommate, I don't remember if the roommate is Leighton Meester or the other one isn't. Sure, sure, sure. Well, I guess they would both be roommates. They're obsessed. It's like based on Single White Female. Yeah, okay. Yeah. That's very spooky. uh-huh yeah no turn that location off keep it off keep it off and be and stay far away yeah there's no fixing that nope can i have my phone really quickly i need to call for approval on the thigh tat oh payton is off campus's number one fan oh my god incredible hi say hi to belmont hi payton oh i'm sick I'm sick What's up sister how are you Hi I'm your biggest fan I'm yours now Thank god I answered Jake I just heard my computer ringing We almost didn't get you I'm obsessed with you bad That's awesome thanks Do you have any questions Your show is awesome Thank you very much we worked very hard on it Are you filming season 2 right now We currently are yes Holy hell I read all the books Wow good for you I'm an OG fan respect what was your favorite scene to film um probably the scene with me with Garrett and Dean in the weight room I mean smash time to do so the reason we called is because should I get a thigh tat you have to Jake they're so hot I always tell you this yeah you did you called do you have one Yes, he has one.

1:11:04Of course he has one. It's super hot. Yeah, but he said he has nothing to do for the rest of the day, so he would take me to get one after this. You have to go. I have to go, right? I wish I was going to be there, but you have to go. But what would you get? Because I don't want you to be manic and get something weird. A banana peel? Yeah. Yeah, I knew it. Yes. Get the banana peel? Yes. Okay, I need a tattoo. You need to calm down. I need a tattoo. He doesn't know how to calm. Ever. I can't believe you have so much enthusiasm for the tattoo idea now. I can't believe you haven't gotten one. Because it's...

1:11:40I tell him. Like, thigh tatts are hot. It's fun. Well, he told me he wears... He hyper-fixates on something, and then he'll, like, get manic and not do it. He told me he wears really long swim trunks. He was like, I wear jeans to the beach. And I was like, we need to get a thigh tat, and then it'd be more comfortable in short shorts. Also, Jake, like, you're hot, and your body's hot. Right. Like, get shorter fucking shorts. Yeah, decorate it with cool tattoos. I guess you're right. Okay, so you need a side tat and you need new bathing suits. That's what I told him. But only if he can take me. He has to take you.

1:12:13Belmont, you have to take him. I'm going to do my best. I'll be the liaison for this. Okay, love you. Have so much fun. Thanks. Love you. Bye. Bye. That's a really good idea. I have insane imposter syndrome when it comes to dating because I grew up weird and unattractive. Sorry. That's literally how I feel. I had a crazy glow up but still anytime a guy that's mildly attractive and or well like shows interest in me I panic and get scared even if it's a guy that I'm interested in I find myself self-sabotaging is there any way to get over this hmm yeah of course there is uh I uh practice it what just practice you don't have any advice for this do you no I really don't that's okay I don't really have any advice either because I'm but it does sound like You had a good glow up and so.

1:12:59Yeah. On the glow up. Oh my God. You know what? You need to watch. Quick. Tell me. Oh my God. Watch the princess diaries. Yeah. Watch the princess diaries. Are you talking about like the he's all that and the. Yes. But watch the. I've never seen he's all that. What was the Amanda Bynes soccer one that was based on like a Shakespeare. She's the man. Oh right. Best movie ever. So good. Watch the princess diaries. Yes. Good. Watch that movie. Okay. Ready for the last one? Yep. I accidentally discovered my father's porn addiction by finding a hidden tablet with thousands upon thousands of videos saved I obviously understand this is normalized but the sheer amount of content I found saved was not normal from what my mother has told me she is very against pornography in all forms I don't want to cross any lines but I also don't want to let my mom be lied to what do I do how horrible this one is not like the other ones yeah yeah sometimes Nolan throws in Yeah.

1:13:55Good pull, Nolan. I mean, okay. My first query is what's the old man into? Right. Is it normal stuff? Doesn't thousands upon thousands doesn't sound like it. Does not sound like normal stuff. They didn't specify that it was specifically anything in there, but you know, if that's a, that is thousands upon thousands. It's a lot of material. I would just tell the mom, you know what I would do? I would, yeah, I think it's probably good for the mom to know that. I would tell the mom. But I would tell the dad, hey, you don't have to have any of this saved. It's porn. Also, what I was just thinking, too.

1:14:31You could just go look at it, and then you could just leave it on the internet and go back to your life. But you don't have to have, does he have boxes of it? What happened? He has it saved on his computer. Oh, okay, yeah. See, I would just be like, listen, pops, you don't have to download this at all. If you want to see it again tomorrow, you can just go find it again. Right. So you wouldn't tell the mom? I mean, it's interesting that mom is really against pornography. Right. So there's an underlying issue happening in this marriage. Yeah. What a weird coincidence. Right, right, right. Do you think, I mean, it's possible that she just says that to the kid because she knows about the way that it's affected her husband.

1:15:10Yes. And so she's fearful of the addiction being genetic. Yeah, so maybe just stay out of it. We're going to hang. Really? Yeah. We have to party together. We got to go out. We have to party. I don't know. Do you go out? I don't really go out. I'm a house party guy. I go out. I'll throw a party here at your place. I should do that one of these days. Do you not? I know. I never have. What? I know. Never. I've never thrown a party here. Oh, my God. It's the best. I love to go out. It's my favorite thing to do in the entire universe ever, ever, ever. Oh, my God. I love to go out. pregame to like a planned party situation to like something else or like pregame to like everybody's going to the same club at the same time pregame to everyone's going to the same bar at the same time like it is my favorite thing on god's green earth i'm not a go out guy it's quite fun i believe it i've been to a club once in my life what club was it it was uh it was in miami i was 19 I had a bomber jacket on was it a strip club?

1:16:16no it was like at the W Hotel or something in South Beach oh I think it's called The Wall something like that if I remember correctly did you go to what's the one in the you know the no no not 11 not space it's the one oh my fucking Liv did you go to Liv? no no no no oh okay you went to no I literally just went this is the only time I think I've ever been in a club okay and the music was so loud and I was so poor and the jack and cokes were like 25 yeah they're very expensive and all the women had accents so I couldn't really understand them that well plus it was the loudest deepest trance-iest house music I'd ever heard I can't so I was screaming at these women who spoke mostly spanish trying to introduce myself I was like I just lost all my money on the two drinks that I bought and the three rounds of cover I paid to get in I had a pair of like nylon joggers on and all the other guys in there were like bald and sweating from coke and wearing rolexes and i was like i've never been more out of place and then i just didn't go to a club again after that yeah so you have to go to the right ones i'm a dive bar guy okay give me a shitty bar i'm there i i just love like loud music dancing yeah just like like complete chaos yeah like the lights are off i don't know what the fuck is going on but all i know is that it's 4 a.m and then we're stumbling out you're crazy man whatever you guys Jake you're so nuts whatever you guys whatever oh my god it sounds like fun it is fun okay it's the time of your life I would do it with you if you give it a chance it's the time of your life all right Belmont what did we learn today we learned basically nothing I I disagree what was that one bit of good advice he gave that we were like wow oh No, we learned that if you can, a good way to quit smoking would be to use your lungs and a good way to retain your memory would be to read.

1:18:17Yes, or play chess or do something that involves. I dig can't with chess. Checkers? How about just like mobile games? No, that's what's killing you. Fuck, yeah. We did learn some things. We learned that I'm getting a thigh tat. It might not be today, but it'll be sometime. No, no, no, no, no. That thigh's getting tatted. It has to. Yeah. Okay, well, Belmont, thanks for coming on Therapist. Thanks for having me. This was fun. Did you have fun? Yeah, I really did. I had a great time. Yeah, this was good. I could have done this for much longer. It's a good hang. I know. Thank you. Yeah, you're a good hang.

1:18:51Thank you. You're welcome. Bye, pussies.

1:19:09Thank you.