Session 137: Madelyn Cline Returns

0:24Welcome back to Therapist. Tonight we have on the wonderful Madeline Klein again, who is a dear, dear, dear friend of mine. I remember meeting her a few years ago when we were at the airport. We were both waiting for our backs and she came up to me and I was just immediately so disarmed by how warm and kind she was as a person. And every time I get to see her, hang out with her, I always feel so lucky. and every time she chooses to come on the show, I also just feel so grateful. So Madeline, thank you for coming back to Therapist. I love you so much. The final season of Outer Banks starring Madeline Klein is out August 20th on Netflix.

1:09It is obviously incredible. She is incredible and enjoy the episode. I love you, pussies. Hi, pussies. Today we have movie star, television star and one of my best friends, Madeline Klein, back on the podcast. You're so bad. I missed you. I know, I've missed you too. When was the last time? Was that like a year and a half ago? No. Oh, that was like the last time we hung out. No, that was not. Wait, actually, that was not the. No, and we're going to get into it. The last time we hung out was I got to play with Madeline and Glenn on their new movie. The Comeback King. Which was one of the best days of my life.

1:47I had so much fun. That was the best day of my life. I was struggling that morning. Yep. You know how my hangovers always last me two days? Yeah. That was day two. So I was also a little stressed out. I was on day one. Yeah. Do you want to come sit? Oh, yeah. This is Madeline's dog, Rodney. But he's really distracted by the gaggle. Does he want to leave? Yeah, I think he does. Okay. Goodbye, Rodney. Okay. Well, very short cameo by Rodney. Hi. Hi. I love you.

2:25hi hi okay okay outer banks is coming to a close coming to a close five seasons five 50 episodes wow five zero which actually like when you say 50 it doesn't for seven years of filming it doesn't feel like it's oh wine thank you manny i love these cups me too are these room temperature these are my cups i love your cups oh definitely brats cheers cheers eyes eyes eyes we'll never have bad sex well i don't have sex so that shouldn't be hard me neither 50 episodes oh someone's but what is there's a party i think we're speaking right now through our brains yeah and we need to speak through our mouths 50 episodes seven years seven years so when you say like 50 episodes it seems like it should it doesn't seem like as many it it makes it seem i don't know like for the amount of work that we put in 50 episodes like 40 minute episodes doesn't feel like that much but it was like most it was most of my 20s it was almost your entire 20s most of like yeah like most of a decade and what did it feel like on like that last day of set okay so this is tea okay give it um so i am one of those people that does my morning in like i like i process it slowly over time like i i think ahead like i love to cross a bridge before it comes.

4:05Me too. I'm the same exact way. It's like, let's plan for the cross out now. I love putting a cart before a horse. Yes, always. And so I, I like had many, oh my God, there's so many things happening, guys. I'm so sorry. It's kind of beautiful how many things, oh my God, I love your phone case. Okay, so chaotic. Wow. So apparently it's a full moon today. Yeah, Mercury's back in retrograde. Okay, what does that, what does that mean for like our signs? It means, what are you again? I'm a Sagittarius. I don't know what it means for us, but Mercury in retrograde is never good. Hmm. I'm scared. No, it's never good.

4:45It's actually quite horrible. No, actually, like, today has felt like a retrograde day. Yeah, no, Peyton's not having a good one. Really? Yeah, but pretty bad. I need to call her. So tell me about the last day on set and putting the cart before the horse. Oh, yes, okay, so cart before horse. So I had already kind of done my morning, like, throughout the entirety of shooting season five. Uh-huh. And so when it came to the last day, everyone was sobbing and I was cheesing. You were just like. I was like, I've already cried. Right. I was in a state of mind that I had no tears left to cry. Ariana Grande.

5:19Like Ariana Grande said. And so I felt really bad because I kind of felt, like, psychotic. right you know but you know i also thought about it in the in like the the context of a scene you know how you like when you're watching a scene where everyone's like devastated and crying and sobbing and having the same you know i think it's always interesting but i also think it could be like did you feel this is so niche but did you feel like pressured to cry so then you didn't cry some okay so that's another thing too i'm like sometimes i feel like sometimes i feel like i am there is a pressure to cry because it means you're sad but really like I was sad but I was more just like happy and proud of of all of like our collective accomplishment right um and that there were so many people there on the last day to not just the pogues but like lots of other cast members it was a really big day the hair and makeup trailer was like a full house yeah so I I was just more, I was more just happy that we were able to celebrate together at the end of the day.

6:27When they said like, that's a picture wrap on Madeline Klein. Like, did your, what did your body, like, what did you feel? I am going to mourn it so much, but like, it's a, you know, I am just so proud. I'm so proud of it. It feels like you're putting a ribbon. Yes, it puts, yes. On a huge body of work. A hundred percent. I think you're very much allowed to be happy. yeah I'd be like this is it celebratory story is over totally proud of what you did exactly and I felt so proud and like where like how we I put like you know we put the story to bed we put Sarah Sarah to bed like we told the story we told it well hopefully like we made a show that people are going to want to go back and watch over and over and over again and and I you know honestly Like I'm really happy to not have to go shoot back, shoot in bogs and grassy knolls with gnats.

7:21And that's okay. And that's okay. Can't even, can you imagine me in that environment? Oh my God. I wish I could take you on a, on a vibe tour. What is the scene you're most proud of in season five? I'm proud of any, so okay. I'm, I break a lot. Like you laugh. I laugh a lot. Okay. Like, and I can't help it. Well, we were laughing. We were. At the comeback game. We were laughing. And so any time I start laughing, a lot of times it's because, like, when we're running, it feels like Scooby-Doo. Or that we, like, we're, like, scurrying one way. And then, like, bad guys come around the corner. And then we have to, like.

7:58Scurry the other way. And I just started laughing at, like, the whole situation. Because it was so Scooby-Doo, like, that I had to turn my face away from the camera. and it was a it was like a drone so it was following us uh-huh I did turn my face away from the camera and I was running full speed without looking where I was going because I was laughing so hard and I ran straight into the back of Madison uh-huh hit her so hard and then went flying like like and I went flying to the ground and skidded on the ground six feet and then it was one of those falls where people were like oh which is so embarrassing and then I just all I remember doing is like hitting her and then seeing blue because I was staring up at the sky Right.

8:41Okay. I was actually quite worried for a second. I was like, what do you mean? What do you mean by that? I know. And then there's nothing. And then you start laughing because it's like embarrassing. But you're also laughing because you want everyone to think, to know you're okay. Right. And then they were like, okay, now can we continue the scene? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like, are you good? Okay, now. I fell down the flight of stairs when I did a guest star thing at Adults. Oh, no. Like. Like full, fell down the stairs, banked by my head, like huge thing. Everyone saw it. It was so, it was mortifying.

9:14You just got it. I'm really proud of us. I'm proud of us too. Those are the scenes I'm really proud of. So for those that don't know, Madeline and I spent a lovely weekend at Coachella together. Yes, we did. It was very fun. It was fun. Who did we see together? Okay, Sabrina? We saw, no. You were with all the girls. I was with Charlie and Will and Cassidy. That's right. Shit, that's right. Were you there for the strokes? Yes, I saw the strokes. Amazing. Amazing. That was amazing. I want to for my birthday. Because they're performing in New York on October 2nd. We gotta go. And I want to go again.

9:47We gotta go. That was truly like that was. That was unmatched. It was euphoric. I was having the time of my life. We were having so much fucking fun. So much fun. And then after the strokes. You disappeared for Bieber. I did. Because I started to get really anxious. Totally valid. Because I figured out that we would have to stay there and wait. We did. And I know. And then I was like, oh, my God. And then what happens after Bieber ends? The mass exodus. Yeah. Yeah. It was, Madeline, it was so horrible. My brain, like, I went down the slide of anxiety and despair when I was thinking about, like, mentally, when I was thinking about the exit plan.

10:34And I was like, I started to panic. Yeah. A thousand percent. And by the way, everything was cut off. I forget what it was, but they were like, we've never seen this in Coachella history. Like, there were so many people there. Louise was with me. It was horrible. Like, you, like, it was horrible. It sounded so scary. And then also at the same time. And she's laughing at me because we had the best setup where a golf cart drove us home. No, I'm laughing. No, your setup was unbelievable. Wait, you know the golf cart died on our way, on our way, on our way back from Bieber. Twice. The golf cart died.

11:08We started pushing it, like shaking it. And I was like, please, I need to go home. I need to get, I need to go, I need to go home. I was freaking the fuck out. Everything was closed out. Oh yeah, I was already, like I was, again, cart before horse. Bridge before it came. Actually this time, you, that was correct. Because I should have known. But I also had so much FOMO because I was thinking about all like the parties. And like I was hearing the girls download about like the night. and Sally's download and Sally's download was crazy. Sally's download was crazy. I've never heard that before. Download.

11:44I love that. Yeah. Download. I'm going to start using that. Generational. Yeah. It was it was it was all time. Yeah. That weekend was really special. No that weekend was I'm so glad you guys convinced me to go to that weekend even though I'm really sad I miss Madonna. Me too. That physically hurt. Me too. But watching that. Oh my God. What was it like being in the house tour music video i don't know if we ever even spoke about it actually i don't think we did no um honestly to be to to be able to like

12:19do spiders kind of count as octop octopus right there see it like right here where my finger is no like literally next to my finger oh oh my god oh my god um nolan what is it's missing legs It's like a daddy long hug.

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14:13And an accomplishment it is. Like, I mean, Sabrina, I adore Sabrina. I have loved her for so long. She is such a good, good person. She's such a good friend. And when she texted me to see if I wanted to be in a music video, I was like, yes. She was like, you don't want to know which one? Of course not. I was like, no, no. The answer is yes. Absolutely. If Sabrina Carpenter asks you to be in a music video, you're in the music video. Yeah. Like immediately. Immediately, yes. And was it just so fun to film? Yes. It was two full days of, we were in this big old house in the Hollywood Hills and it was just, like, it was all shot on film.

15:00And it was Sabrina and Margaret directing. It was their vision. And it was just two old days of girlhood and a bit of this and that and goofing off. Well, it was amazing. I, like, love seeing you be funny. I You know I always tell you Her comedic timing Louise is All timer It's all timer My favorite thing you've ever said Well first of all you were incredible in Knives Out But it was in I know what you did last summer And it was when I think your boyfriend Had just died And you come out and you go You know when like the girls are like you're sad But you still have to get ready It was so funny You know that meme It was so good and that's why I'm so excited for the comeback king because I think you're about to be hysterical and oh my god I had the best time shooting that I had the best time I was basically in drag the whole time are you wrapped?

15:57do you remember when I called you hungover? you called me when you were hungover and I said please let me come on the show and I was like Jake don't worry it's happening and it was fun we filmed I guess we can't say much, but it was amazing. We got to play. We got to play. We got to play one morning. It was so cool to see. What was it like working with Glenn? I love Glenn. That's of all time. Glenn is genuinely one of the best people I have ever met in my life. He is like if the manual, the life manual of how to be a good person 101 came immediately, like already downloaded into his hard drive.

16:43because his he comes it's his he's such a family guy it's the southern charm and his like his family is like it's all that way his whole family is they're just like gold star humans they're it's just they're good eggs they're all good eggs and he's so talented so talented so good at what he does his comedic timing is amazing and like the way he has leaned into this role i think the way everyone leaned into this movie and the comedians we have on for this movie like Judd the I mean obviously Judd in general like that was such a like what I couldn't imagine how you felt every day because in those when I was doing my thing with you guys and I was hearing like Judd from the director's chair I was like I actually can't believe this is my life right now I know I was like, this might be one of the coolest things to ever happen to me.

17:41It is such play. And the way he directs is awesome. I know. I really like it. It's so, it is, it's such, it's something I have never experienced before. It is so unique, but it also, you know, what I love about it is that it kind of takes away any sort of ability to overthink. Yes. About anything. And you just like brain empty and you just do. Because he's like, wait, try this. Wait, do this. Wait, do this. You don't have time to think about it. You just do it. And you're just, you're so in the moment with it. It's so improv coded. Yeah, it is. It was, yes. And improv is my favorite type of comedy.

18:17Yeah. Oh my God, so fun. Now we need to talk about Love Island. Let's talk about Love Island. Because I'm not, okay, so I didn't watch the season, but Will made me watch Casa Amor last night. Okay, I'm two episodes behind. They just got back. So I watched the after sun right after the recoupling. The recoupling, brutal. I cried during Trinity and Bryce. I don't know why I cried. I was just like, oh my God, she's so relieved and he's so relieved. And they were matching. Did you see that? No. They were matching. They were matching butter yellow. They were just like so, by the way, do you know Bryce was a Tumblr it boy back in the day?

18:55I saw that. Like with Kendall, like fully. An it boy. An it boy. I was so obsessed with that. And then things obviously took a turn. Yes, that was a very, very nasty turn. The Corbin of it all was pretty nasty. Was Corbin the one that said about Kenzie, oh, Kenzie's out the window? Yes, when they live streamed. Here's my thing about Kenzie is I don't watch the show, so I have no ground to stand on, but I never understood why people didn't like her. I was obsessed with her from day one. I think she's always been, look, I think she is, I think she's sweet. I think she's funny and I think she's fantastic television.

19:37She's fantastic television. Yes. I forget. Do you watch Housewives? Okay. So I need to watch Rhode Island. Please. I really need to watch it. Madeline, please. I know. It is one of the best first seasons of Housewives I've ever, ever, ever seen. That's what I was, I've been hearing that they just do not give a fuck. They don't give a fuck and they've known each other since they were kids. What do they call it? They call it like a slam pig? A slam pig. Oh my God. Get out of my way. You're a slam pig. Get the fuck out of my house. Like. That thing is so funny. And then she shows up. The Kelsey who gets called the slay.

20:09Well first. Like the whole. To create the perfect first season of Housewives. You have to have somebody that has a very odd situation. So in Salt Lake it was Mary with her step grandfather. In Rhode Island it was Kelsey with her sugar daddy boyfriend. Who was dating. She was dating some guy. who lived in this massive house, but he had other girlfriends in Miami. And so she was like a polygamist. And Rosie was like, you're a polygamist. And then Rosie's house was also, Rosie's also building a house. And the house is supposed to be 5 ,000 square feet, but it's actually 2 ,500 square feet. So Kelsey would not let her breathe about it not being 5 ,000 square feet.

20:53That's really funny. And then Kelsey was like, you literally don't have a house. And then Kelsey at the reunion, or Rosie at the reunion said, your only coworkers was ever another girl in Miami. Like that was your only co-worker. It's basically being like you're a prostitute. You literally don't even have a house. You don't have a house. Speaking of prostitutes. Yeah. Speaking of. Who is one? Someone that we know. Speaking of prostitutes, did I tell you the story about how when I was in Spain, I was working and the police kept showing up to my apartment door. Thinking you were a prostitute? They thought I was like the leader.

21:32They thought you were a madam? How many girls were staying in your apartment? It was just me. So what did they keep saying? So I was talking with Penelope Cruz. Right. As one does. As one does. And she was asking me how I liked living in Madrid. And I was like, yeah, I like it. Like, hot take. I like Barcelona better. But I have, like. I love Barcelona. I do, too. And everyone's always like, what the fuck are you talking about? I love it. I know. I can't. I love it. I love it so much. I love the coast. I love like cateches like two hours up the road amazing just wine beach everything oh my god Barcelona's perfect seafood paella all of it paella the clubs the dancing you know when I went there was a strike and I couldn't go dancing there's a taxi cab strike there's always a strike in Europe there is always a strike in Europe I know I'm like mad for you so what were you saying about you being a madam.

22:30So I was telling her, I love it so much, but I have to move out of my apartment because the police keep showing up and I'm really scared and they keep talking to me in Spanish and I'm trying to translate, but I don't know how, but they keep taking my passport and my information and I'm scared because I'm like, what have I done wrong? And then Penelope was like, what's crazy? Like, where are you living? And I was like, I'm living in Salamanca. And she's like, that's my that's where i is it salamanca i think so and she's like that's my old neighborhood i was she was like what street are you on and i said the street and then she said what building number and i told her and she was like is it the yellow building down like an alleyway through a gate and i said yes and she said that's my old building shut the fuck up that's my first apartment building and she's like and my neighbor my old neighbor called me and told me that they had like they had tracked some like local like some like crime ring like in salamanca they attracted to i guess they attracted back to the building and i and they were coming to my apartment directly and i found out later that it was like some like sex ring and they thought you were the leader it was me leading it right they thought i was the madam of it so yeah so speaking of prostitutes so actually Speaking of prostitutes.

23:49But also like, also no hate at all. At all. At all. At all. But they thought that I was their fearless leader. And I was, and I was their fearful leader. I was the fearful leader. You were elected, I guess, by accident. I was accidentally elected. To be madam of the. And I wish they would have let me know. I wish they would have let me know because I would have, I probably would have been a lot braver about it. What else are you watching on television right now? Mostly Love Island. I just also started playing Fortnite. What? Yes. And I won my very first Battle Royale. I actually see you loving that.

24:28I was having so much fun. I have a Bugs Bunny skin. No, sorry. I have a Lola Bunny skin. And I just got the new Supergirl skin. How is Lucas? I love him so much. I miss him every day I'm not with him. Yeah, I know. I know. I was texting him on the way over. I was like, I need you. I need to come cuddle and cry because I think I'm about to start my period tomorrow. And it's the full moon and Mercury's in retrograde. Great. Oh, shit. It's a crazy combination. Is he here in L.A. right now? He is. Oh, and you were just at the Voicemails for Isabel premiere with him, right? I know I was. He was so great in that movie.

25:07Him and his mustache. He played straight. He did a really good job. He did a really great job. He did a really good job of being a diabolical straight man. Yeah, and he was so fucking funny too. And his souffle was ass. Ass. Did you watch Voicemails for Isabel? Yeah. Like, he was so fucking funny. He, and a lot of his stuff was just improv. I could tell. Yeah. You could always tell because it's always funnier. It's so funny. It's always funnier. It's just, improv is always funnier because it is quite hard, I feel like, to write a joke and perform that joke 10 times over. It always, it always is.

25:40it's never which is again why i think judd's directing style works so well is because it is never the same thing right you can like the thing is the only time it's the same thing is you can tell when he wants to get multiple versions of it is because he likes it but like he always likes to keep it fresh right and that's but yeah the first the first time something's funny is like lightning in a bottle crack making someone laugh is actually it is actually crack like hearing like when you were on set for the comeback king like when you would hear the crew laugh was it did it just like fuel you for the rest of the day oh it gave me like I would have to go home and take like a couple hours just to wind down because every day was the best day ever yeah because like especially especially these like this set and like the people that Judd right like his writing partners like his I mean his his filmmaking partners that he's worked with for so long it like I kept thinking oh my god like what what an honor to make them laugh right what an honor to make comedians laugh there's no better feeling holy shit like me yeah it's like yeah you know and also it is such a confidence boost because it's like oh i can't i can do this i okay okay i am employed and happy deserve and confident yeah and confident and confident in my ability to be employed yes or no i'm confident which is um you know sometimes i feel like you and i are two brain cells we are fighting over being the third yeah right uh-huh right it's because they're okay for reference madeline and i have not caught up in weeks.

27:27Did I just say for wefflints? For wefflints. For wefflints. Madeline and I have not caught up in weeks. We haven't. So what are you therapist about today? I'm therapist about people's, men's audacity. Uh-huh. And that is a. It's a real thing. It's a real thing. Yeah. But I would say that you handle it always with grace. Not this time? Oh, yeah. This time I did. Okay. Not every time. Okay. I'm learning how to handle things with grace. No, you handle things with grace. There are certain things you call me about that I'm like, holy shit, if I were you, I would literally burn the world down and you don't.

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29:54She's like, there was a meet and greet in her penthouse suite. Like, I was like, I'm down. So, like, did she, like, pay for a cruise? No, so actually what happened was the rest, she rented out, like, a portion of the cruise. The rest of the cruise was, like, people on a cruise, and then the other half was JoJo Siwa fans. Okay, did you see, like, the, um, there was one guy who was doing, like, a rundown of the gift bag, like the AI slop stickers. Yes. Yes, the AI slop stickers and she performed Boomerang in actually like a very emotional way. Yeah, as like a heartfelt ballad. It was a heartfelt ballad.