Session 80: Wallows

24:19You seem pretty tapped to pop culture. No, I'm very tapped. Have you guys ever seen Glee? No. I've only seen one or two clips. Maybe an episode. I've seen parts. I've seen the first episode. Yeah. Is that your favorite of all time? I don't know how to describe Glee to you guys without like crying right now. Like that is seriously the greatest show of all time besides 13 Reasons Why. I was about to fact check you. Glee, you know what we're gonna do? Us four? What? We're gonna sit at either my house or one of your houses and we're gonna watch Glee. I'm down. Cool. I'm kind of down. I'm kind of down.

24:52Would you start us at the beginning or would you show a certain episode? Unfortunately, like unfortunately, I do have to show you from the beginning. Okay, that makes sense. But you will get locked in. Okay, I'm sure. Nothing but great things. It's a... like it is the greatest show of all time. Like, I don't know how to describe it. American Horror Story dude, right? Yes, Ryan Murphy. Ryan Murphy? Yes, I was like, Evan Peters is not in Glee. Yeah. That's funny, man. The legend. The legend. I'm also watching Survivor right now. I've never seen Survivor, but I really want to see it. It's amazing.

25:24Really? It's so, I've like, I've grown up watching Big Brother. It's like one of my favorite shows of all time. I love that show. I got Cole into that show. It's the best. I've only seen, I've only seen the season of Big Brother, with Frankie Grande. I watched it. I watched it, of course. Watched it live. Fucking love that show. And then everyone was always like, if you love Big Brother, you'll love Survivor. And I always, for some reason, I was like, nah, Big Brother's bad. That's like weird. Like, I was on this high horse about Big Brother for no reason. And then, like, two years ago, just decided to start a random season.

25:55It was season 15. It was in China. And it was incredible. And I was like, how have I not been watching this show? So now there's two seasons a year, and I'm like, I'm... And it's that good? Oh, it's incredible. You guys should go on Survivor for album promo. Wow. That'd be fun. Wow. I so would want to do that. I know. I watch it and I'm like, I'd like to try it. I'd like to try it. Celebrity Survivor season? No, you guys have to go on with everyone. Okay. That's like what Mike White did. That is what Mike White did. That is what Mike White did. I saw Mark. Do you guys watch White Lotus? No. Yes.

26:26Okay. Yes.

26:30Cool. So how'd you come up with the name Wallos? Great question, honestly. Well, first of all, I always like asking you a question when you ask me a question. I love talking about myself. Go ahead. Okay, great. How did you come up with the name Thundurpus? But yeah, Thundurpus. So basically in college, I started an octopus review account called Pass That Puss. So like I would eat octopus and I would go, hi, pussies. Hi, Jake. Tense up. Usually a little more enthusiastic than that. Okay. And then I eat the octopus, and then I rate it out of eight because they have eight tentacles. Correct. So then I started posting on my Instagram story, like, tell me what's wrong.

27:12And I would give people, like, pretty blunt advice. And then I was like, damn, like, I think I should probably have a podcast. Just, I was like, therapy, therapist. It's brilliant. It's really brilliant. It's brilliant. I needed to hear how you did it so I could tell you how we got it. I was really high at the time, but I don't smoke weed anymore. Oh, nice. I don't touch that stuff either anymore. that stuff. When'd you stop? Well, I've only had it a handful of times. Okay. And the last time I did, me and my - Are you lying? No, I'm dead serious. Oh, okay. I can't tell with you. With me? Yes. Oh, no.

27:46Oh, no. I never lie. I'm just kidding. I really don't. Is that a lie? I don't know. Geez. I'm full of myself. Is it crazy if I use the bathroom real quick? Go use the bathroom. You're perfect. I'll be right back. He is perfect. Should we, are we pausing? No, we can keep going. Or wait, no, Just keep going? I've heard the story. No, we will wait for you. Oh, yeah. What was I talking about again? When you, how you don't smoke. Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't smoke weed. I don't, I don't really enjoy it. I've had, I've had a good time and whatnot, but yeah, not anymore. Last year, yeah. Do you have a specific, like, what, what, is there a specific thing that, like, got you, you were not into it anymore?

28:29Well, I remember there was a time where we got a little something and I couldn't say sit and sleep will beat anyone's advertised price or your mattress is free. I remember this. I was, I was sitting, I was sitting, I was sitting down like this and I was like, I was like, this is the worst feeling in the world. Like I just feel so bad. And then Dylan was like laughing at me and he's like, say sit and sleep will beat anyone's advertised price or your mattress is free. Like, you know, that saying by, you know, sit and sleep. so I was like I was like sit and sleep and I was like I just couldn't there's a video of me saying it I was like really I was like probably like 16 and ever since then I was like nope never again oh wow just because of sit and sleep I can't do it yeah I've had experiences like that but then post college which we're about to talk about I smoked every single day every day of my life I would wake up and smoke for like what 3-4 years yeah and then I started getting really bad anxiety and I was like wait I can't do this anymore well I remember the last time I smoked was I I was kind of like trying to prove to myself that I could kind of like an exposure therapy so I was like I was kind of always afraid of it like you know what I mean so we were in Oregon with our manager and uh we we literally went to a strip club in Oregon for fun just me and him you guys had girlfriends at the time so you didn't want to go so it was just me and him like maybe not so we so we go and we're walking him back and then um he's like do you want do you want some of this and i was like you know because it was like legal there and he bought it and i was like you know what like i will for fun i'm not gonna get high so i took one little hit of it and i was like really afraid i was like oh good thing that's over like right i'm not gonna feel anything i'm not gonna feel anything and i'm in the elevator with him and i'm like yeah there it comes no it's like please god no and i go in my room and i look in the mirror my eyes are bloodshot and i was like i literally started doing jumping jacks certain push-ups i was like i gotta get the i was just so paranoid and then um and then i let it go and then i had a good time and then i never did it again ever and i never will yeah never will it's cut oh dude i'm good on it i'm good do you smoke a lot no not a lot i i have it's built it's been a while for me as well but not really for any reason i started to like enjoy it less i don't know yeah me too yeah like the feeling i never got full anxiety from it i just sort of every time i I was like, I kind of don't need to be feeling this way.

30:44Right. I agree. Yeah. I agree. No shame for people who love it. That's awesome. Oh, of course. I mean, I used to. All power. I'll probably go back to it. So you went to USC. Yes. So where'd you live? You went all four years? Yeah. Did you go there too? Yes. Nope. Oh, so I realized, so you were peeing and then that's how this came up. And then. Yes. Yeah, bathroom. Okay. So you went to USC. Yes. Did you live in New North? I lived in Trojan Hall my first year. Yes, yes, yes. Do you remember Ground Zero? Did that still exist? Yep. They did. They had a good breakfast burrito. Yes. Smoothies and shakes.

31:17Yeah. And then I lived. Do you know the restaurant Nature's Brew? Do you know Nature's Brew? The memory you just unlocked. I'm sick to my stomach. The little cafe. Yes. And next to eBay's ramen. Have you had it? Oh, yeah. eBay's? eBay's. I'm sick. I'm sick. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Delicious. Wait. Oh, my God. I'm sick. eBay's ramen. Yeah, in like a bad way. I hate eBay's. No, they had good crispy rice. Yeah, no. It's great. eBay's. eBay's. And you lived right there. Yeah, and I worked at Nature's Brew. So I was a server at Nature's Brew. What year?

32:02Like 2016 to 18. No, no, no, no. Before your time. Before my time. Okay, so you lived there, and then where'd you live? and then after college. Oh, you lived there all the rest of your three years? Three years I lived in like a house. It was a house with 10 people. 10 bedrooms. Quite a lineup in that house. 10 people. Yeah, good lineup. Good lineup in there. I lived there and Danny lived there who tours with us. And do you know Remy Wolfe? Yes! Yes, Remy Wolfe lived in that house as well. Did she go to USC? Yeah. Huh. Fight on. Fight on. Liz, like everyone that lived in that house is doing like really well.

32:40It's like, yeah, everyone. It was a prosperous place. Ebays. Ebays. Oh my God. They had great ramen. Great ramen. I would love to go there with you. We should go. Would you go back? Is it still open? Yeah. Cool. I hope it is. Did you guys ever party with him at USC? We ever party with you there. We were there all the time. Like right. Like making demos and stuff, right? We'd go like a few times a week because we were always there. We played a party at your house once. We played the ultimate frisbee prom. It was like the first Wallows performance. I played bass. And Zev played drums. Was Pleaser out?

33:23I don't know. Was it out? I don't know if it was. Really? It might have been before Pleaser. I feel like it was out. Oh, was it out? We had one song out. It was like the first Wallows performance was there. In the house. We did that strange 80s event too And Stefan played drums Yeah you played bass Oh Stefan Stefan produced our first few singles That we put out At a studio he used to have Or might still have out in Irvine And um Yeah he like played drums with us For like this charity event we played Right when we started Like right when we first started Wallows When we first came out as Wallows And then um Yeah I haven't seen him in a while but he like he helped jumpstart the whole thing stephan mac do you guys remember like a moment where you were like oh like this is what we're gonna do forever honestly it's probably when we were kids like oh like i remember just like always writing and like putting trackless together and sending it to them and i was like oh yeah this is just what's going to be happening in the future like it was it was when i was naive enough to not know that there was like a reason why it shouldn't happen so just kind of naturally led into adulthood and now i look back and i'm like wow like it's really cool that this worked out in that way or it's you know what I mean yeah yeah there was never uh but the time I was like wow this is actually happening is probably when we went on our first tour or something or put out our first song people were listening to it that's probably when you're like whoa like is this actually gonna happen right for a long time even it got to the point where that was what we knew we were gonna do and then there's a period when we're like 14 to 20 where nothing's happening and that's why we called our first album nothing happens because we were like why isn't anything happening for our band like you're always right are you playing shows but we didn't really know what to do in terms of marketing ourselves or anything like that's probably the worst thing we were that was probably the thing we were worst at was like knowing how to like promote our band or something we would just write and whatever.

35:15Also children we were literally kids that's that also nothing's happening at 15 that's the spirit that's the spirit it's why you guys are as successful as you are how did you get successful? How did you get known? I like you I love knowing I started my octopus account And then I Would just post on that And then I was an assistant to This guy named Zach And he Was always like if you ever If anything ever happens I'll manage you If anything ever happens I'll manage you And then over the course of a week I posted these Improv skits and it really Took off and He started managing me Wow Yeah that's good so that's my story it's a good story yeah do you believe in manifestation oh yeah but like like but like oh like how do you like how do you do you guys manifest well when you were talking about us as kids i was like maybe we were just manifestation maxed at that time because i don't think there was any part of us that was doubtful about what we wanted to do That's true manifestation, by the way.

36:28Yeah, sure. Not writing stuff down. I mean, like, I really think true manifestation is just being like, I'm going to do this. And if you get in my way, I'll step on you. Yours is pussyfestation. Yes, it was. There we go. Pussyfestation. Do you guys eat octopus? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You still eat octopus? I just had octopus the other day. From where? From Mexico. From Mexico. How amazing was it? I'm sure it was amazing. It was. I feel. Okay, sometimes I feel bad about eating octopus. Stop. I'm sure you know why. No, seriously, I can't. I know, I know, I know. I mean, just to be completely transparent, I feel the way about pigs, and I don't like eating pork or bacon, because I think they're so sweet and so cute.

37:06But hey. You seen Babe?

37:11I actually haven't seen Babe. I actually haven't seen Babe. That's really funny. Oh, thanks. That was like a really... I've never heard a more perfectly timed question. Thank you. Then, beautifully said, it was like a poem. God, I should have you around all the time. Have you seen Babe just float off your tongue? Just the hype man behind him all the time? Yeah, really? I think I need it. Have you seen Babe? I guess we have that. I haven't seen Babe, no. Well, so why don't you eat... You just think they're sweet? We'll figure this out. It's a work in progress. It's been instilled in us since we were children.

37:39That pigs are sweet. That cows and chicken are tasty. They are so tasty. Okay. Okay, yes. Okay, yes. Should we play a game? Sure. Yes, please. I love games, actually. Okay. What's everyone's... If you had to eat one thing for the rest of your life, what would that be?

37:57Yogurt.

38:01I'm serious. Are you serious? I love yogurt. I'm serious. You guys know this. It's so good. Yogurt. Like Greek or what? Yeah. I like whole milk Greek. or like that's why he has the body he does i was about to say like you're in shape wait so what toppings like what's the vibe i mean honey like a sweet fruit honey sorry well every time every time my dad thought i was getting sick he would make me have a spoonful of manuka honey every morning oh i like manuka i'm like actually like if i keep talking about it i'll throw up on you well you better watch okay so you like honey on your yogurt honey yeah like a sweet sweet girt so you would have a breakfast lunch and dinner greek yogurt i literally probably have done that before because it's like the only thing in my fridge maybe we're leaving the next day i gotta eat it and i'll just sorry i like they heard it from it's like yeah the echo of the it's a good echo that's yeah okay you know what I'm so sorry I laughed I completely respect your it's no it's it's a little weird yep okay I feel like if I had to give like man there's something like recently in my life I feel like there's nothing more satisfying than like a good breakfast burrito you know what I mean what's your favorite in LA um Waking Light I haven't had Waking Light yet I mean you don't need to I think Dialogue's my favorite Dialogue has an incredible breakfast burrito Dialogue rules And also Amara Kitchen Which is like sort of a deep cut Cafe Los Feliz Yeah they have a great one They have the best one in Los Angeles They have a great one Go Get Em Tiger is a good one as well Never had that but I've had Go Get Em Tiger It's yummy But then like also another thing that comes to mind Is a Cheesy Gordita Crunch from Taco Bell Okay Like insane I don't know why I can't really get behind Taco Bell Have you had one of those?

40:07Of course Of course my friends used to order that every night in college I just can't like my favorite like drunk food Is like a Tatsu ramen My drunk food is Taco Bell Okay yeah There's so many nights where I gotta get home and I like Postmates 2 in the morning like Taco Bell And I'm just alone eating it You know they're doing a Dorito cheesy gordita crunch Yeah yeah yeah I've seen that I like the classic You don't like Doritos? I'm hungry now What would yours be? one thing the rest of your life? One thing the rest of my life would be, you know what's funny? It would actually be like this stir fry.

40:44This stir fry, like vegetables and like a nice chicken. Yeah. Just like a nice sauce. Just a stir fry. I feel like I could, I feel like I could happily live my whole life just having that. Over a bed of white rice? Oh my God. Like don't give me chills. Tuck me in. Yeah, like don't give me chills right now. Yeah, crazy. Like white rice, like see what I describe white rice as it's like it's a canvas it's a blank canvas and you can just paint it with whatever sauce you want like i would eat white rice with bolognese that'd be amazing actually they actually have that at tatsu ramen well it's not really but it's like a meaty sauce it's just called red rice and it's a bowl of white rice with like meat red sauce on let me get it for lunch wow that sounds really good yeah also get caesar wrap oh hey i'll throw up.

41:32This time on you. You don't like Caesar wraps. I hate Caesar wraps more than anything in the entire world. I'm not a big Caesar wrap guy either. I feel like we might have a lot of similar tastes, honestly. I feel like if we, like, dove deep into this, we might have a lot of similars. I think we're... I think it's a kismet thing with us. What is that? Okay. I think... I hate Caesar wraps, because one time I had a Caesar wrap. It was the nastiest fuck shit I've ever had in my entire fucking life. It was wet with Caesar. I love I ate this yesterday. Yeah. No way. Did you really? Yeah. I was just saying it.

42:08It's like the most popular Caesar wrap in LA. Jeez. Yeah. I split it with our friend Kevin. I had one yesterday. Yeah, you split it because you can't have the full one. Well, I can't. Oh, okay. You don't think it's like wet? Isn't it supposed to be? I like wet food good. Wet food good.

42:28Wet food good. Well, yeah, you like Greek yogurt. Yeah, just, yeah. So what, you say wet food good. Like, do you like the little liquid at the top of the Greek yogurt when you first open it? No! No, no, no, no, I don't do that. You gotta mix that in. That's gross, that's gross, that's gross. Hiding behind the pillow. So crazy. I like their Italian sandwich is the best in LA. You know what has a good Italian sandwich in LA, besides Bay Cities, of course, is Bob and Grandma's. Never had. They do have a great, they do have a great. Well, you wouldn't know because you don't eat pork. What did you say, Italian sandwich?

42:57Italian sandwich. Oh, shit, I guess I have eaten. Well, I do eat pork sometimes. Okay, so. I just feel bad about it. That's fine. And I limit. Limit. I'm not like full. Yeah, anyway. Limit. Let me get this clear. Limit. I respect that. Yes. What are you guys therapist about today? Oh, good question. I feel like I'm always pissed about something. Love that energy. Yeah. Yeah, I actually did some deep breathing in my car before I came in here today. Did you really? So I feel very, very relaxed. You did deep breathing? I did. Were you nervous? No, not nervous. I feel like sometimes maybe my mind can wander for some of these things, and maybe I'll talk myself into being nervous.

43:36But at the same time, I always have a good time. How do you deep breathe? So you do a nice.

43:45Should we all? I mean, they know this so well. Do you guys want to deep breathe or do you not want to deep breathe? Why not? Yeah, I was about to be like, why wouldn't we? Okay, so deep breath in in three, two, one. Breathe out.

44:05Breathe in. Are you guys closing your eyes or what's the vibe? On our close. Yeah, okay. On this last one, breathe in all the way and then breathe in one more. Like, more than you think you can. Three, two, one.

44:25And how can you be therapist after that? I mean, I have a few things. But like that That feels amazing I love it I love deep breathing man I feel like high almost Is there something That you're a therapist About right now That you're able to speak on On camera Yeah my stomach Keeps grumbling And I'm really anxious Every time that you guys hear it My stomach is grumbling Right now Okay So we're in this together Wow Okay so I'm not A therapist about that anymore Okay Yeah let's talk Actually let's talk about it What are you a therapist about What am I a therapist about Yeah I want to help you I want to talk about it I don't know It's weird Okay Um I really like how I look with a spray tan, but it's super – it doesn't make sense to get a spray tan every single day.

45:04You know what I mean? I'd feel contaminated. I'd feel sticky. No. Spray tans are – have you ever had a spray tan? No. Oh, you need to get a spray tan. Spray tans are – have you ever had a spray tan? No, I probably should. Have you ever had a spray tan? No. Okay. Well, they change your life. Really? I feel like I'd feel sticky. No, you do. Oh, okay. But you have to get the Express. What is that? Okay, so the Express you wash off in three to four hours. And then the standard you sleep in. So you have to sleep on like a bunch of towels. Does it not give you like acne or anything? Because I have very sensitive skin.

45:39It might. But my girl, I'll give you my girl, okay? And she has the best formula. It will not give you acne. Okay. I promise. Interesting. I would never do that to you. Probably not. Yeah, probably. But maybe. What else am I therapist about? Yeah, what are you therapist about? I kind of have to pee. You should go. You may pee. You should go pee. Do you care? No, I don't care. No, I did it. You set the standard. Yeah. Okay. Can we have a group chat? Yeah. Let's start it. Wallows plus Jake. Okay, I want to. Give me my phone. We're starting a group chat. Us, the four. Us, the four. Wallows plus Jake.

46:18Okay, ready? Let's do it. Yay. I absolutely love that. Okay, ready? Okay. Okay. So everyone starts putting in their numbers, and then you have to text your names, and don't play with me, and don't text your name as someone else's, because I know you would. I would do that. Wow. Okay, so we totally forgot. You guys never told me how you named the band Wallows. All right. So I grew up playing this skateboarding game called Tony Hawk's Underground. Are you familiar with Tony Hawk's Underground? Of course not. So Tony Hawk's Underground, great game. And in one of the levels, you skate Hawaii. Are you familiar with Hawaii?

46:51Somewhat. Okay. Yeah. So then you skate this, there's a famous skate spot there called Wallows, actually. So there's a place called Wallows. And when we were trying to name the band, I was actually, we were trying to rename the band. We were originally called The Fever, which is hilarious. But we were kids, you know. The Fever. The Fever. Like The Cure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're like the antithesis to The Cure. Yes. Yes.

47:18So then basically we were renaming the band and we came up with a ton of terrible band names. Like what? Thunderpuss. Do you know Thunderpuss is a record store in Ohio? We went there. You're right. You're right. Magnolia. Yes. Magnolia. That's right. Magnolia what? Thunderpussy. Thunderpussy. Yeah, that's right. I have a shirt. Manny has a t-shirt from them. I have a shirt too. Really? Yeah. Jeez. Look at God. Wow. It's amazing. So then, yeah, so we were trying to name the band, and then Wallows, I remember I was in a sauna, actually, and I was thinking about what we could call it, and then Wallows popped into the brain, because I remembered it from the game, and then brought it up to them, and the rest is history.

48:06Wow. Yeah. Yeah. That's amazing. That's it. Wallows. Wallows. I like wallows because it's like I wallow in my like stuff. Yeah. Yeah. It's sort of like. What? I don't know. I don't know. It's interesting. Okay. What were you saying? No, I was saying like because to wallow, it sounds like a verb, like an adverb or something. Well, if it was wallow, then yes. Wallowing is a verb, right? To wallow. To wallow. Is it an LA show soon? We are, yes. Oh, yeah, we're playing Dodger Stadium. Yeah, Dodger Stadium with My Chemical Romance. Two days, two nights. Wait, when? End of July. I will be there. Yeah.

48:56No, I'm not kidding. Like, I'm here end of July. You gotta come. Yeah, it'd be awesome. You should go. What's the date? 26, 20, it's Saturday, Sunday? Yeah, 26, 27. I'm there. Last weekend? Yeah. Yeah, that's gonna be amazing, man. Are you excited? Yeah. Do you guys, like, what's your favorite, like, what's your music taste? Like, what's your favorite bands of all time, your favorite singers of all time? Ooh. I love the Beatles. Yeah. They're my favorite. So I'm just going to end it there because it's so easy to just leave it there. And just, it's just, yeah. What about you guys? You kind of look like one of the Beatles.

49:26Interesting. What's funny, I don't intentionally do my hair like this or anything. I literally buzz cut my hair and I just let it grow. I don't, it just grew like this. Which one do you look like? I don't know. Danny said I look like George Harrison, but I don't know if that's. Oh. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what he looks like. Sorry. Have you seen the new Beatles biopic actors? Yeah, it was very well cast. Okay. I feel like you're John mixed with Paul. Really? Interesting. Yes. I think you lean more John, though. Really? That's interesting. Like, Paul hair, John's face. Whoa.

49:59Interesting. I don't know. That's weird. So you like the Beatles? I do like the Beatles, yeah. My dad showed me the Beatles when I was a kid. And it kind of changed my life and made me want to write songs and play music. Oh, that's beautiful. It was a same story for me. It was the same thing for me. The Beatles were like the... I was singing Abbey Road, the album front to back at three years old in my basement kind of thing. I like the Beatles too. I like the Beatles too. Cole, can I know? Yeah, I think it was like the Strokes was the band that made me like the band. I love the Strokes. Someday's my favorite song of all time.

50:29No, the Strokes is one of my favorite bands of all time. Yeah, they're great. Cole kind of looks like one of the Strokes. So do you. You have like the fab hair mixed with the fab curls. You kind of look like Julian now. I think he looks like Julian. Hey, maybe I know what Julian looks like. I don't know. I don't know. Stokes were a big one. Kings of Leon were a huge one for me. Like when I heard Taper Gene Girl in Disturbia, the movie. I love that movie. Incredible. I love Disturbia. I love that movie. Taper Gene Girl's in the credits or something, I think. No, it's in the scene when he's on house arrest.

51:00He's putting down the gnome and shit. Oh, okay. Yeah, there you go. And I was like, what is this? And I went and I got like obsessed with them. And I was like, I need to do that. Yeah, they were life-changing. Make music. like this and then that's why one of the first songs we ever covered and learned was a kings of leon song called molly's chambers and it's like from their first album but they're sort of like the reason i like i mean led zeppelin and beatles hendrix stones all that stuff is like why we did originally it's like what brayden and i bonded over when we were really little and then like what we were into when we met cole but then like hearing though kings of leon is when i was like okay i really need to be in a band for some reason i was like i want to be like that yeah i like that yeah um i never i don't think i ever got as rock and roll as they originally were they were like full like actually like rock and roll lifestyle when they started but kings of leon yeah oh wow yeah they were they were like they're three brothers and a cousin so they're a family band and they were just like you know sex drugs rock and roll vibe was like their whole thing yeah it was the whole thing yeah and ours is like catan cold brew and cold plunge i love a cold plunge.

52:04Same, same. Mega same. Yeah, mega same. Do you have a cold plunge? I do. I don't use it. Nice. It's filled with leaves. That's kind of cool. It's like a tea. It's just like the maintenance that goes behind it is like such a to-do. Yeah. It's like... You take water from it and then just put it in the kettle? It's like tea, yeah. You can put green tea leaves in it. Yeah. You guys drink tea? Tea plunge. You know what? I love tea but I don't drink it as much as I drink coffee. Yeah, I hate tea. You hate tea. Yeah, you like coffee. Yeah, coffee. I'm addicted to coffee. Yeah, me too. Yeah. You guys actually ordered me one.

52:42I'm going to drink after this. I'm going to drive back. You want it now? It was so good. No, I'm having my way home. I can enjoy it in the car. I'm actually feeling, because I had cold brew before I got here and cold brew here, I'm feeling it behind my eyes, like in my eyelids. Why don't you have some water? Because I'm enjoying it. Okay. I'm enjoying this behind the eye pulse. Right. I feel like my blood, my veins pulsing behind my eyes while I look at you. Don't give me chills It's interesting It's kind of fun Like In a good way? Yeah Okay I'm really excited for our group chat you guys Yeah me too We gotta get it right I mean like I am gonna text in every day Please It's great Who do you think's gonna respond the most?

53:20You Yeah Wow At least You Maybe that's right Yeah I'm bad at Okay you have to send your Greek yogurt every day Okay You have to send the Wordle Yeah And then Finally someone I can share The world with Yes Do you do the Do you do the spottle Yes Oh we were doing that Did it recently We got it Yes Should we do it All together right now Yes Let's do spottle Yes Do you play Contexto By the way as well Contexto Okay we'll talk about that The reason I can't do connections Is because somebody once tweeted I think the connections Gave me schizophrenia And schizophrenia is my number one fear So I just I can't I feel that Okay so ready Who's our first guest I always go with Taylor Swift So do you care Let's go Taylor Okay Let's go Taylor Taylor Swift.

54:02Okay. Wow. Female member. Okay. It's a solo female pop star from the USA. Lower than 2006. Should we go with Madonna as our second? I like Madonna. I like Madonna. Yeah. What's the popular? What's the? It's not close to number two. Okay. Let's try Madonna. Let's try Madonna. Oh, that's a great guess. Okay. Lower than 1983. Should we do Cher? Okay. So maybe we're thinking Cher? And it's less popular than Madonna. I feel like Cher would make sense. No, no, no. Yeah, it's less popular. Let's try Cher. Let's try Cher. Cher. Can we get it in three? Oh, this is crazy. It's Cher. That was incredible.

54:43That was incredible. You have to love. You kind of did that yourself. You got that. Thanks. Do you just bottle every day? Yeah, every single day. We're on there, so sometimes we'll just put our name in first just to see where it gets us. Yeah, that's fun. That's cool. Just to see where we're in there. It's fun. Maybe one day. Have you ever been there before? Maybe. I don't know. I don't know. I think you have. Really? I think you have. That's so cool. That's crazy. Yeah. Yes. And they play Are You Bored Yet? Yes, you definitely were. That's a pinch me. There you go. That's a pinch me. What's your biggest pinch me moment ever?

55:11That we've had? Yeah. Might be being on this podcast. Don't fucking play with me. I'm serious. Feels good. I want to get pinched. Yeah. Other than this, honestly, maybe like playing Coachella. Like hearing for the first time we're playing Coachella back in 2019. That was a big pinch me Because it's crazy I went to That was my first Coachella Oh really? Yeah who was the headliners? Ariana Oh Tim and Paula Childish Gambino Kid Cudi Childish Gambino And Team Impala Yes And then Ariana Were like the three headliners Wow And then who was Billy did it Billy played then That was the first time I ever saw Billy And then who else?

55:48Julia Who else? Who else was the headliner? I'm trying to remember Fisher was there I remember that Was the weekend there that year? No, no, no. We got already headlines. Yeah. We got already headlines at that point. I don't know. That was fun. That was a fun year. It was a fun year. It was fun. We played like early. We played like 1.30 in the Mojave tent. Oh, that's great. Did you have fun? Yes, but it was the first show of the whole Nothing Happens tour for that album. And we had never played the new songs live for an audience. We'd never played with in-ear monitors ever. So it was like a first all on the Coachella stage for the first time and it was like a ton of technical difficulties.

56:29It was really nerve-wracking. I remember after that I was like we're never doing Coachella as the first stop of a tour ever again. It was like a lot. You need to be comfortable and already on the road for a bit at that point before playing I feel. It's also like such a stage. It's on YouTube and everyone sees it. We played in 2022. It was definitely better. What stage did you guys do then? Outdoor theater. Do you like the outdoor theater better than Mojave? Yeah. Outdoor theater. I think I was just at Coachella again. I think the outdoor theater. I know I saw you and I almost said hi. You saw me there?

56:58Yeah. Oh, where'd you see me? Clara. Oh, Clara. Yeah. Well, I was kind of going to reference that because I feel like the Marias had the same spot, the same slot the night before. You see the Marias too? Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah, they were great. They're the homies. But Clara's a homie too. But then we like, that slot at night, I was like, this is the best set time at Coachella. Like that 8.30 p.m. outdoor theater. That was Charlie's set too. Yeah, beautiful. like that's sort of uh i think that's the best lot of coachella um but yeah what was the oh pinch me moment i mean it's not necessarily like a pinch me in a way where i'm like i can't i'm so excited i can't believe it was more like what are you talking about um but morrissey came to a show we played um a couple years ago we did this like 50th anniversary special show at the roxy and they asked us to play and we were like, yeah, we have a lot of history there at the Roxy and we played and then someone told us they were like, Morrissey from the Smiths.

57:59They were like, Morrissey is apparently a big Wallace fan. He's asking to come to the show. Wow. And I was like, we were like, what are you talking about? Morrissey's, no, yeah, right. And they were like, no, no, no. They're like, no, for real. And then like time went on and they were like, yeah, we're saving tickets for Morrissey. We're like, okay. We're like, okay, sure. He's going to show up, yeah. And then the day of the show, They're like he's coming Apparently he's coming We're like okay right And then we were Before the set They're like he's in the building He's ready to watch We're like Morse's here That's crazy Like I can't imagine Morse Being a fan of anything Let alone Wallows And then Huh Oh yeah Who's Who is that He is He's the singer of the Smiths Okay great Do you know the Smiths I know the The Please please please Let me get what I want Of course Yes That's like the That man Yeah He's one of our favorite fans of all time.

58:48To say the least. But still crazy that he was at a Wallow show. But I guess that he was like, there's a really funny video of him sitting there. He looks so upset. And like, he looks so mad. And I think it's apparently like, our fans are really loud. It's like really a lot of screaming, like screaming girl voices, you know? And I think it was way too loud for him. And he left like three songs in. And I was like, that's the perfect Morrissey story. Like didn't even need to meet him. It's just the fact that he was there. And he got to see how loud your fans were. How cool is that? I don't think he liked it.

59:20Made him real mad. Yeah, he got out of there. And I was like, that's worse. But that's like something that comes to mind where it's like this person that is also very, I feel like influential on our writing. Yeah, for sure. Like to be a fan and come to our show was like, that's crazy. It's wild. That was crazy. Do you guys all write together? Like who does the, what's the vibe? Yeah. We do all write together. Do you have a pinch me moment? like one that's really cool to you maybe maybe it was when we we first started we had like the wallows music at gmail that was like what we were getting reached out to under but uh when andrew sent us an email i remember being like oh my god because he andrew's our manager and he works at a company he worked at a company called monotone and i was an intern there when i was at usc oh wow And when I was there, I crashed my car and it was awesome with all the salad for everyone in it.

1:00:17Wait, was that, was that cause when you're, you were a music business major, right? Yes. And you have to do an internship for the music business major. Correct. So it was that, it was, it was like a summer that I did that for credits or whatever. And then, um, yeah, when he emailed us, I was like, Hey, like you might remember me. Like I crashed my car at the thing when I was like, Oh yeah, of course. And then, you know, and then we've been working with him. That's amazing. Yeah. That's a really sweet pinch me moment. Yeah. Yeah. When the emails started pouring in labels too, that was crazy for us.

1:00:46We were just like little kids. I don't know. Funny time. It was cool. You have the truck tattooed on your arm, right? That you crashed? It was a truck. Okay. Yeah, it's a whole to-do. He has to take the shirt off. Take it off. You, I think you're going to have a new pinch bee moment soon. I think you're going to get sent a lot of Greek yogurt. Oh. Oh, my God. I Siggy's brand Icelandic Greek whatever it is Skier I like no I don't think you are ready like I really think like you're about to get sent a lot of Greek yogurt I'm gonna get sent a lot of Taco Bell yes and Taco Bell I love Perfect Bars I'm just kidding I'm joking Perfect Bars what do you guys want no I'm kidding I'm gonna be getting sent a lot of stir fry vegetable stir fry vegetable stir fry Jesus ordered you stir fry every day that reminds me of a pinch me moment recently we're addicted to a game, a board game called Settlers of Catan.

1:01:40Have you heard of this game? I've heard of it. I've never played it. You would love it. Should we play it together? We can play Universe on the phone and we can do that. Oh, is it on the phone? There is an app on the phone. Okay. It's amazing. But we play, it's all we do on tour. Like, it's really all we do. And I think they caught on or some reached out to them or something. And we just had a Zoom call with them about how we can collaborate. But I guess they're going to send us, each of us, every single version of the game possible. That's amazing. So we're just going to have this, like, closet full of Catan.

1:02:09What did you just do to that? I'm so sorry. Oh. I don't know. Sometimes these are a little. I am so sorry. I did not mean to interrupt you. I was done. Are you okay? Sometimes these are a little inconvenient. I don't know if the convenient. This feels like a Blackberry. It's the titty. We need, like, the iPhone of this. It's the titty of the water. I love the titty of the water. Yeah. to me this feels like not exactly that you know this I do this feels like a dongle or something we need like the what else would you want that it's so but you got it on you you just dripped it on you see that's the convenience of that you never drip when you have that but sometimes I have a hard time I feel like I'm like a monkey when I'm trying to work on this Yeah, that's the beauty of it.

1:03:06Really? Okay, let me try. Yeah. And especially because it's called smart water, it makes me a little insecure. Yeah, well, you have to take off the safety thing. Yeah. Look out. You're done. Okay, ready? Just flip that open. Oh! I'll give it a taste. Pretty nice. Actually, that's pretty nice. Have they made these more like the iPhone? What? What are you talking about? There has been Arrowhead, maybe. Arrowhead. Yes, they do. Arrowhead is tricky. To get this going. I think I have like Arrowhead like memories of this. You're not going to get sent stir fry. You're going to get sent some of those.

1:03:43I do love this. I actually – you changed my opinion, Smartwater. That was really easy. I'm not so – I'm glad we worked that out. I'm sorry. I've never been so caught off guard by anything in my entire life. It was like showering with socks on. Like I don't know what I just witnessed. Yeah, just bypassing. Yeah, whoa. Straight to the source. I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to like yuck your like whatever. That's great. you just changed my mind oh my god really I don't know why I keep referencing the iPhone sorry do you love your iPhone yeah I do I love watching the video of Steve Jobs presenting the first iPhone what does he say it's just so fun to see everyone go like ooh and ah back in the day no idea and you can scroll and everyone's like ah I remember 2008 my mom had an iPhone and I was like, I thought it was the coolest thing.

1:04:32Yeah, it was. That was like the closest to the future I've ever felt. I used to love watching the unboxing videos of the iPhone. You ever watch iJustine? No. No. iJustine sounds... No. It's okay. Interesting. All right, are you guys ready to get into the tell me what's wrongs? Yes, please. Okay. Yeah. Are you? Yes. Okay. What's going to happen? I don't know. Okay, so the pussies write in and they tell us what's wrong and then we give them advice. Love it. Does anyone need to pee? You're the only one that has it. I did before we started. You fucking did do that. We've all peed. We've all peed in your house.

1:05:08We're prepared. We're prepared. Oh my God. I like to make plans with my friends, but at the end of the day, we always end up doing the same stuff over and over again. And when I try to make different plans, they never want to. What should I do? Find new friends. Okay. That's like, that's like we're easing into it. That's a really easy problem to have. like you just need I would say like you need to like branch out yeah so they're just bored well also like I prescribe are you bored yet oh wow did you say prescribe yeah that's so good wow thank you so much that's so good thank you um yeah cool I feel like you'd have good advice for this I mean I I don't know I kind of like I'm a creature of a creature of habit I like doing the same stuff yeah like how do you convince other people to want to do different things Yeah, I think you just have to lead the charge.

1:06:01Yeah. You have to do it. Sorry, Cole. Right. No, no, please. No, you. I recently, or like two, three years ago, I started playing tennis. Just like on my own. Like you just have to like pick something to do alone. Agreed. Like do something like, or like if you want to do, like, I don't know. I did Pilates once alone. And then you just do it. You do Reformer? I have done Reformer Pilates. It's so fun. Oh, yeah. Me too. You do Reformer? Oh, yeah. Yeah. You guys go to Allo? No, never been Allo. Okay. Oh, that's the one I see online, right? Yeah. Yeah. I haven't been there. But if you just do something alone for yourself, like something, an activity.

1:06:40You, like, attract people to join you. Yeah, like, this morning I played tennis, me and Milo. Nice. Who's Milo? Milo, one of my very close friends. Okay, cool. And we played, and we walked in, and they're like, oh, hey, cool. We hear, like, there was someone we knew, and then next door to us was someone else we knew. And I was like, oh. But I didn't like actively seek that out. We just like started playing tennis and then suddenly you kind of like are integrated in this thing. So do that. So you prescribe challengers. Challengers, yes. Yeah. Yeah, just find yourself a challenger situation. My significant other is so nice and so good at what he does.

1:07:14But like how TF do I make him funny? He's so damn serious. And while I like that, I want him to crack a smile. Can I just be honest? That is so much better than having someone that thinks they're funny and that they're not. they won't even crack a smile I mean I'd rather them not if they're not funny what did she say in the beginning she's like I love my partner he's not funny at all he's not funny ooh that's tricky you can't fix that you can't change someone's personality my advice would genuinely be tickle him tickle your partner when he's least expecting it when he's going to sleep when his eyes are closed nice little tickle you're rewiring his brain circuits and neurons to understand happiness and laughter and I feel like if you do that enough his neuropathways will merge to responding to situations with humor and laughter that would be my advice, tickle him is that real?

1:08:18no okay I prescribe Veep because how could you not laugh? also good. Yeah, or like, whatever, I mean, also everyone's sense of humor is subjective. So I feel like, what does she find funny? Like, is there something that she wants to show him that he hasn't seen before that maybe he'll pick up on the humor and he'll start to have different bits, different jokes? Like, if it's Caribbean enthusiasm, maybe he'll start to, like, have some funny bits or something. You guys like Curb? Oh my God, Curb's the best. That's, like, my sense of humor. Yeah. That and South Park. Yeah, South Park. South Park was the first show I ever watched.

1:08:53Wow. What episode do you remember? I think it was the one where they did World of Warcraft. Oh, yeah. Fantastic. Yeah. And then when they went to Casa Bonita. Oh, amazing. And then, God, I love South Park. I once said that Trey Parker and Matt Stone are the Lennon and McCartney of our generation. You know, my parents were actually at the party where South Park, okay, well, like, I feel like this was, like, my, you know when you hear something from your parents and then it just becomes, like, urban legend because you're, like, I'm not going to fact check this, but they were at a Christmas party and they, South Park started as, like, a Christmas card.

1:09:24That's right, yeah. Yeah, spirit of Christmas. They were at that party where the South Park Christmas card was played. Whoa. Whoa. Yeah. That's so awesome. Legendary. So I don't know if I'm lying, though. I don't think you are. I don't think I am either. That sounds like a very specific story to be lying about. Yes, but so it started as a Christmas card, and they were there. So maybe show your boyfriend South Park. South Park. Yeah. Yeah. But it really is. I just want this person to be super grateful that he isn't trying to be funny. That's a great point. Someone that is trying to be funny, and they're not like, what do you want me to do?

1:09:54That's true. So then if he starts trying to be funny and it's not funny, just go back. Like if you're trying to be funny and you're not, you need to be self-aware in the fact that you are not fucking funny. True. That's very true. Oh, yeah. It's painful. It's painful. It hurts. I'd much rather someone be just not funny. Yeah. Do you feel like your humor comes from a part of you you don't really know or understand or do you think you like formulate your humor? Like is it more instinctual? Is it more like I have something funny I want to say? Like nature versus nature. Oh, wow. Oh, what a great question.

1:10:26I don't really know the difference. Maybe same, I guess. Like, I think whenever I have something funny I want to say, like, it becomes awkward. Like, if I'm, like, planning on saying something funny, like, it's not. Like, I just won a Webby Award, and you're only allowed to do, like, five-word speech. So my speech was, I want to say more. And, like, it came across, like, really horrible. Okay. Okay. Like, cause like normally it'd be like, it like, yeah. So I guess I'm more instinctual. Yeah. I mean, I, I, I think I, I truly don't. Maybe people say that I'm funny or say things like you guys said that.

1:11:01Thank you. Like, it's funny. I don't think about trying to be, it's a weird thing. I don't try to be funny. So it's like funny how it's just natural. I guess like I just maybe it's quick. Like just drop a pun faster than you could have ever imagined. And sometimes, and sometimes, and you guys know this side of me, sometimes I'm not funny at all. I feel like these kind of situations maybe bring out something where I want to just say something because it's fun to just speak and have a good time and it's fun. But yeah, I was just curious how you felt about that. No, I think it's more instinctual.

1:11:30Like me and my friend Kate have a bit where whenever we say something really funny, we say we couldn't write it is like what we say. Yeah. Because we're like, oh, dude, that was so – we definitely couldn't have just thought of that. We couldn't have like planned out what we just said. And so whenever we say something hilarious, we're like, oh, dude, we couldn't write it. So it's interesting. Yeah, I have that. But not a bit, but I'll just make my friends tell me I'm funny. That's funny. Yeah. Like Julius says, you're gifted. You're funny. I do think you're funny. There's people that are naturally funny, like Ryan Lee.

1:12:01Naturally funny guy. Naturally funny guy. So funny. It's funny. And then I guess there's people that don't smile. Yeah. And that's okay. Well, maybe not. I have two friends who I feel bring out the worst in me. I would cut them off, but I don't have anyone else to fall back on. and I'm with them for parts of the day where it would be hard to ignore them. What should I do? I need help.

1:12:23I wonder if, I mean, yeah, bring out the worst in her. You just need to make new friends. Yeah. I mean, truly. I imagine, like, they're around them for certain parts of the day. So it's, like, school. I imagine it's probably school. You just don't need to be friends with people that bring out the worst in you. Yeah, and your friendships will change over time. Like, it sounds like you're young. Yeah. Unless they're your coworkers. Like, I don't know. But, like, if, you know what I mean? like friendships change, friendships go. It takes time and experience in life to like realize the people that were getting the worst out of you and like bringing the worst out of you, I mean.

1:12:56You don't realize it in the moment. So if she's able to recognize that, like first step. Yeah, it's, you just don't need to be friends with them. I saw my ex at a party for the first time since our breakup and because he lives far away, I let him sleep over at my place. You know where this story goes and now I don't know what to do. We broke up because he cheated on me, but it has been eight months. Am I crazy? It sounds like maybe you still like this guy. Is that what it sounds like to you? You know, people are always looking for closure. I would prescribe Closure by Taylor Swift, and I would prescribe Tis the Damn Season by Taylor Swift.

1:13:27You got those good. You got those good. Thanks. Is it always a song? Right now it is. Okay. Right now it is. I gotta think about what I would prescribe for one of these. You look like you're lost in thought. I am lost in thought. There's no shame in how the story goes, sleeps over, whatever. If you guys hook up after a breakup, whatever. It happens. But, so no, you're not crazy. It doesn't matter. Yeah, I don't think you're great. If that's what you wanted to do, then all good. Like, even if they wronged you, I mean, maybe, like, don't let, don't, you don't need to get back together with them, because I think people tend to, like, repeat the same mistakes, especially with the same person.

1:14:04But I think, like. Why don't you prescribe same old mistakes by Tame Impala? Fantastic. There you go. Nice. That's great. There you go. I think it's fine. And if you like Rihanna, the Rihanna cover. That's right. Yeah. this guy I was hooking up with pulled out his vape and was hitting it during sex. Like, he couldn't even wait. Wow. It icked the fuck out of me. But now we're in a situation ship. I don't want to just leave, so what do I do? You gotta go. Yeah. That's crazy. Oh, that's pretty bad. Whoa. Yeah. I was once hooking up with this guy and he also did that. No, really? Yes, and ran around the bed.

1:14:43Do you remember, like, do you remember when people used to do that thing where they would like, yep, Louise, yeah. Yeah. Like the dance room? Yes. When you would kick your leg and go like this. Yes, and he ran around the bed and did that. I think he was on drugs or something. And I sat there like naked and I was like, this is insane. I was like, what am I, is this? And he was like hitting his vape as he was doing. That sounds like a Nora. And it was the craziest thing. and I was sitting there like and I was like that's incredible jeez and then yeah it was pretty crazy that that happened actually you should date this guy I haven't seen him in years and I was sitting there like is this really happening to me right now was it did he have to he had to pull away to have that happen yes yes yes yes wow he was running around going like this and meeting his babe wow Wow.

1:15:44Wow. I'm definitely, my mind's running wild. I'm like not lying either. It sounds like. Like this really happened to me. It sounds like this submission is mild in comparison. Yeah. It's like. Yes. Yeah. Is this your own question that you submitted? Yeah. I just played it down. Yeah. I would leave him. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know about that. Not worth. Yeah. Life of pain. Jeez. That's really, really funny. My ex blocked me on everything a month ago because I wouldn't stop drunk calling him me. I don't have an ex. I'm going to restart. I need to be sure. Me. My ex blocked me on everything a month ago because I wouldn't stop drunk calling him.

1:16:20Last night I went out with my girls and got so drunk and Venmoed him a dollar with a note, please FaceTime me. He just texted me to fuck off. I'm so embarrassed. What do I do? Stop. She is so creative. Yeah, the Venmo's really funny. I've seen that happen before. Really? Uh-huh. I'm, yeah, I've not had these experiences. I mean, so she's the one that's drunk calling him. She's the problem. I don't know. I mean, it sounds like maybe you've got to find someone else. Yeah, it sounds like the simple answer is stop. Just try and stop. Yeah. Block his number. Block his – yeah, just cold turkey him, you know?

1:16:55I was once hooking up with this guy, and I would text him so much that my friends had to change his name in my phone to a puzzle piece emoji. But joke's on them because I – and they deleted the text, so I would never know. But I went on my computer, and I found it. Wow. That's hilarious. He has a boyfriend. I mean, one of my favorite stories I've heard recently is I have a friend, I'm not going to name names, who was with a new girl. And her boyfriend was jealous. So he started sending. Sorry. So, yeah, my friend was dating a girl. Your friend was dating a girl. And then her ex-boyfriend was jealous.

1:17:28Got it. And he started sending Domino's pizza to his house. Unpaid for, but, like, said that, like, he would pay by cash. so every other day Domino's would come to his house and be like okay that'll be the 25 bucks he's like I didn't order a pizza so what do you do in that situation? so he would tell them like I didn't order this and they'd be like what? so then he had to call Domino's after like the third time I called him once on the way home from like a show or something I was like hey man what's up? he's like can I call you back? I was like sure he called me back he's like dude sorry I was dealing with Domino's and I was like what?

1:17:58and then he was like yeah I had to call them and say like put me on a ban list like he's like never deliver me pizzas to my house ever again so he's currently do you guys like Domino's? Yeah, why not? You know what? I do. I don't love it. I mean, I think... I don't love it. I think I don't love it. I think it's okay. I really... I fuck with Domino's. No, it's good Super Bowl food. Yeah, or it's good shitty pizza. I don't know if I need a five-course meal at the Super Bowl party. Well, I'm from New York, so I know good pizza. So even a Super Bowl party occasion, you would have a good pizza? Yeah, but you want to know something about me?

1:18:30That's kind of fun, maybe. I hate pizza. Oh. Whoa. Oh. But you sort of like Domino's. No, I hate Domino's. Like, Domino's is like, we're not. Wow, you hate pizza. I hate pizza. Do you hate bunnies? No, I love bunnies. Interesting. So what do you hate about pizza? I don't know. Like, it's so unfulfilling. Wow. Like, I'd rather have pasta, no? Do you hate the taste of pizza or do you hate the idea of pizza? What do you think it is, Louise? I think it's for sure the idea of pizza. Wow. Wow. Yeah, right? I mean, yeah, but it's like, I'm going to feel like shit after. Okay, fair. Pasta, I love pasta.

1:19:12What's the difference? Couldn't you put pizza in like a rigatoni and call it pasta? Don't make me sick to my stomach. Don't. You know what I hate more than anything in the entire world? Is it rigatoni? Baked fucking ziti. Baked fucking ziti. Baked ziti? To serve as a special place in hell. What is that? Is it like an Olive Garden dish? No. It's like a lasagna kind of. No, don't give it that. Do you like lasagna? I don't mind lasagna. I don't like lasagna. I don't like lasagna. Really? And I don't like pierogies. Oh, okay. Why do you like pierogies? I like pierogies. They're so just not good. It's like they're like moist.

1:19:51I understand that. I'm into everything we're talking about currently. You guys like Chinese food? Oh, yeah. I'm getting dim sum tomorrow in San Francisco because I have a show and they have the best in some in the country. Which one? I forget. Where'd we go, Louise? It was the best dim sum I've ever, ever had in my life. Are you going to have more than one meal there? Yeah. Why? You have a rec? There's a lot of recs. What? Well, one of my favorite restaurants, there's three or four of them in the Bay Area in general, but there's a place called Burma Superstar. Burma Superstar. It's Burmese food.

1:20:21But then there's also like a, like it's the same thing basically. It's called Burma Love. It's the same owners. So it's Burma Superstar or Burma Love, whatever would be closer to you. Really incredible. Really incredible food. It's from Yeah it's food from Burma Which is you know Like a Little country in Asia But um Okay Really good And then like If you want like a Or just like a quick light Like Mediterranean type Yeah I don't mind that Salad or wrap Like from a place called Suvla And they have amazing Greek yogurt Greek yogurt there They have amazing Greek yogurt You like tzatziki There's yogurt there Yeah And they put baklava on it Ooh yum With honey Yeah it's amazing Yeah There's other places But those are really good Are you ready for the final Tell me what's wrong Correct Wow And then everybody I need you to start thinking now what did we learn today because I'm going to ask you that and I need an answer from everyone.

1:21:05Okay. Okay. Okay. Is that your like thinking vibe? Oh yeah. Like what? I don't know. I'm reading this fantasy book series and the book boyfriend is the hottest man to literally ever exist. I've had a boyfriend for two years and now I'm comparing him to this fictional guy who I'm actually obsessed with. It's not healthy. I need a prescription. Grass. Yeah. That's. The earth. Grass is a good. Grass. I don't think you put it perfectly. Yeah. grass grass you need grass for real okay you guys what did we learn today first thing i thought of is that you don't like pizza yeah i don't it's crazy that's cool i learned

1:21:44that we're best friends now i learned that too best friend yes and we're about to have a group chat we're about to have a group chat there's so much more to talk about i know we have so much and what did you say earlier that i was like i didn't know that you did something earlier that I want to remember. I forgot. The Brayden said? Oh, I know what it was. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. You said something good that I didn't know about. Tickling? No, well that was good. Yeah, that was good. I learned to just tickle them. Yeah. Tickle them. I learned that you love Greek yogurt. Whole milk. Whole milk.

1:22:19Three times a day. Yeah. Ciggies. Ciggies. And we will watch Glee. Oh yes, we will watch Glee. Yes, we will. We will. We will. Yes. Did you already say what you learned? I said I learned that we're best friends. Yes. I'm trying to think of something good. No, no, no. That's perfect. That's awesome. And you didn't think about... Okay, I need an answer from you.

1:22:42What was it that you said? I really want to remember. What was the vibe of the thing? You were recalling some story. And it was something I didn't know about you that I liked. Weird thing? Something about me. Interesting. Strip club? No. I don't remember. Weird That's cool You'll have to watch it back Yeah we'll watch it back We'll watch it back I learned I'll leave you a comment Like it was this Right Yeah yeah yeah I learned A lot of things today That we That Glee's amazing That's what Yeah You learned that Glee's amazing Yay Yay Okay well You guys thanks for coming on This was so fun This was awesome Thank you No my god We have to do this again And Before we take photos You need to I'll put your numbers in my phone Okay Yes Okay.

1:23:27Well, you have mine. Yes. Okay, and then, yes. Yes. And then you have to say, hi, pussies, but you have to do it all at the same time to that camera. Okay, great. Okay. And have fun in San Francisco. Oh, thank you. I will. Hi, pussies. Oh, no, you're supposed to say bye, pussies. I'm so sorry. Bye, pussies. Okay, ready, ready. You have to do it a little more. Come on, like, all together now. Okay, okay. Okay. Okay.

1:23:52Bye, pussies.

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