Session 85: The Kid Laroi

41:48And I was like, yo, Callie, who is that? And he's like, oh, that's Kubo's son. And I was like, no way. So I went over and I was like, what's up, bro? And we just vibed out, had a conversation. I was like, should we go to Six Flags tomorrow? Let's be friends. This is fun. How old? Oh, I forgot. We were like, well, yeah, he was in college. Yeah. And he was like, yeah, because he was explaining to me. He was like, yo, it's been kind of like, it's been. he was kind of trying to say I think that it was like a little harder for him like to make friends because he had just moved and he was still learning English and he was still trying to like get get a hang of everything so I was like oh we should like be friends and you should come to Six Flags tomorrow and we literally did that and then from like literally from there like two months later he like moved in with me and we like got a place together and me him and dev who's out there um lived together at this little spot on doheny and then we moved all moved to encino together right so i'm just giving you a backstory because so basically shock has like i've basically been living with me almost the entire time he'd been over here so on the last night we like we're having a couple drinks and we downstairs and the house was all boxed up and we were like crying in the kitchen it was like really emotional we like to look at like that's sweet how long do you guys live together for like a year or two years two years where does shock live now shock lives um at his parents house in silver lake okay so you get the same breakfast every day it's egg whites oh yeah yeah egg whites sausage potatoes um like a cold brew uh-huh do you do dairy no neither do like i'm not i'm not i'm not like i don't like just not do dairy in general.

43:30I try to avoid it for my skin. Is that a thing? I don't know. I think it is. So I used to be heavily addicted to ice cream. Like addicted? Like every night. Okay, like you were like, I can't go to bed without ice cream. It sounds hilarious. No, I get it. You need a sweet treat. I used to get froyo every night. Yeah, and I noticed my skin was really bad from it, and one day my friend was just like, dude, it's probably all that fucking dairy. and I was like I was like alright so I cut it out skin got better I stopped drinking a lot too not that I was like drinking a lot a lot but like you know when you go like I don't know I feel like in LA it's really easy to just like go to a social event and like drink I actually feel the opposite in LA really in New York that's another story New York I will drink every single day of the week cause like it's just like it's the vibe what am I gonna do yeah I don't know I feel like I don't know I feel the same way about LA like if I go out, I'm pretty anxious.

44:33I feel like you're more social than I am. I definitely am like, I don't know. I had this thing for a while where I definitely felt like I need to have a drink to talk to people because I'd just be stiff. I stopped doing that and just saving it more for special vacations or whatnot. Cutting those two things out helped my skin a lot. Now I notice every time I like eat some ice cream or like drink the night before like my skin literally gets worse it like flares up yeah so I'm like damn that kind of it's like yeah I don't know if adults are supposed to like well because I know like I was about to like make up some fake news thing about dairy and it's just like no go ahead I know I'm incorrect let's hear it okay so like I know that cats have dairy when they're like younger and when they're like baby cats and then when they grow up they have water because like your body can't process like lactose or like the cat's body can't and so i'm like wondering if like humans are like the same vibe you know what's really funny i've heard that before about humans not about cats well i'm not even joking i'm really serious like i've actually heard that something like we're not like as an adult you're not supposed to have a lot of dairy yeah i heard that no it's correct and i it is correct i i knew it i knew it wasn't fake news so just i don't know i've heard it but also i i also heard random this is really random but i heard that like i i i don't know like where i heard this why i heard this but i heard that your body can only like digest a certain amount of protein at a time that would make sense and i was like living by that rule for like the past whatever like for whatever here's my life and i asked my trainer the other day i was like hey so like i'm putting this like double scoop in this thing like is it even good and he's like dude that's a myth i was like what he's like yeah it's like a lie that you can process protein at any time yeah all of it yeah do you believe in the white rice white rice versus brown rice uh vibe i don't i'm not i'm not fully equipped to really speak on it speak on it but so but what rice do you have i have white but i heard brown is a lot healthier for you but then i also heard that that's not true it's probably not i eat white rice i feel just fine.

46:49I prefer white rice. I love white rice. It's my favorite food in the entire world. Do you like put a soy sauce on there too? Well I used to my white rice order at this restaurant that actually just reopened. It's called Izakaya. Oh. I know about that. I used to live across from it so I would go every day and I would get a bowl of white rice, soy sauce, spicy mayo and tempura flakes and I would mix it all together and then I would also put crispy onions on top. Wow. And it really filled me up. And then now sometimes I get white rice and I pour a dab of truffle oil in and soy sauce. Truffle oil?

47:28It will change your life. That's really creative. So when I had COVID, I actually couldn't taste truffle for four months and that's actually how I knew that I got my smell and taste back. I had truffle fries and I was like, have you been to Totsu? No, Toscano? Toscano's my favorite restaurant in LA. Do you know about the secret truffle pizza? What do you mean the secret truffle pizza? Like the white truffle pizza? Yes, it's the best truffle pizza in LA. Yeah, yeah. But like, okay, great. That's why I was... Yes, it is. It is the best truffle pizza in LA. It is the best. I've had it. Yeah. What's your order there?

48:01I mean, obviously when they have the white truffle pizza. Oh, it's so fucking fucked up good. I love like the chicken milanese. Yeah. Milanaise and their desserts are really good there too. They have like a chocolate tart. Yes, they do. It's fucking crazy. They do. I usually get, I usually have them make me an angel hair aglio aglio because they have it. Wow. But what I love about Toscana is that they treat you like family. Like I feel like they treat everybody like family. They do. Do you know what I mean? I like the bread they give you at the start. Oh, the bread. You should go to Toscana. Dude, I'm so down.

48:32That's like my favorite Italian restaurant in Los Angeles. It's up there for sure. It's one of mine too. Wait, I'm so excited to ask you, what are you therapist about today? Do you want to go first? Yeah, so I had a really bad day. So I can't get into specifics, but there was like – so I woke up. Something great happened. And I was like, oh, my God. BDE. Best day ever. And I was like, this is going to be amazing. Like what great news to start my day. But it didn't work out. And I was off to a weird start because of it. And then I got one piece of bad news. And then I did like a shoot thingy that was like great.

49:13but like I did it under the presumption of the first piece of bad news. Like I was doing the shoot having just received that bad news. And then we went to lunch. And then as I was sitting down, I got another piece of bad news that like was just, I can't, that one I can't even get into. But like that one I was just like, cool, cool, cool. Right after the shoot, right before we got in the car to lunch, I got another piece of bad news. and then yeah it was like three things back to back to back to back and it sucked and I was in a horrible mood and then I watched the rehearsal and felt a little better you watch the rehearsal yeah do you really I'm I'm up to date I'm not up to date I just started I'm on season one oh you're on season one yeah but it's it's really funny I guess I'm therapist that you're not caught up I know I know is that what is that what you're gonna use as your therapist no okay cool just but I am therapist about it.

50:07I know. I'm going to catch it. After this, I'm going to sit down and watch it on my TV. Season two is like, he's just a fucking, he's a little genius, dude. I know. I don't know how else to explain it. He's just a fucking genius. I was watching it. It was in the first episode where the guy lies, or he's like lied about his master's degree in the trivia game. Do you remember this? I mean, I guess. Yeah. I mean, there was a lot that went on in that post. But, yeah. I've heard towards the end of season one it gets, like, fucking ridiculous. Oh, no. It's the most ridiculous of all time. It just, like, keeps getting ridiculous and ridiculous.

50:45Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are you watching? Well, no. What are you therapist about? Okay, what am I therapist about? Okay, great. I don't know. You know, today there wasn't a lot of, like, bad stuff that happened. I mean, I guess I'm therapist. I mean, I don't know. This wasn't even bad, but I, I, I don't know. I, I was hanging out with a friend today and they were just going through something and, and so I was therapist for him. Oh, you're an empath. A little bit of empath. Damn. It makes mine seem so selfish. No, no, not at all. Yours is understandable as well. I understand that. So I was kind of, yeah, I guess I took on his feeling of feeling that way.

51:36He was going through some stuff. And I, yeah, I was a therapist for him. For sure. So, yeah. And I mean, my salmon was like okay today. Every time you say salmon, it makes me nauseous. How do you cook in a hotel room? Well, it's not a hotel room. It's a residence. It's an apartment. You know what? I think that should be my next move. And you get to go down to the hotel restaurant every morning? Yeah. You just charge it to your room? I pay because I don't – I pay in the moment because I don't like doing the charge to the room thing because I think that's a very slippery slope. It is. It's fake money.

52:14Yeah. Like – And then you get the bill at the end of the month and you're like, whoa. Yeah. I can't even imagine. Are you able to – even though it's a residence, can you order room service? Oh, yeah. Full body chills. This is my next move. Yeah, I'm going to be chilled. after this. You should. Yeah. There's a few of them, but my one, I think, is, I'm not trying to brag, but you should come. But you know they're opening up in Amman, Beverly Hills. Oh, damn. Are they going to have residence? Yeah, the Amman usually has residence, I think. Wow. Amman's my favorite hotel in the entire world. I really want to go to the Amman in Kyoto.

52:48Tokyo? Tokyo. It is apparently fucking insane. I thought it's the craziest thing of all time. Oh, my God, I think I want to go right now. I think I actually need to go right now. I think that's going to be my birthday gift to myself. And the one in Utah. Oh, Amangiri. Oh, is it different? No, that's the one in Utah. Yeah, yeah, that's the one. Okay, yeah. That's how I first heard of it, but I'd never been. That one looks pretty cool too. Yeah. The Kyoto one I've heard is like, I had a friend went there and he literally had no words when he came back. He was just like, bro, it's the best thing of all time.

53:18He's just like, you just have to go. I think I'm going to call my best friend Alice after this and say, you know what, for my birthday, we are going to go to Kyoto. That'd be fucking fine. What are you watching right now? What am I watching? It's a great question. I mean, obviously the rehearsal has been what I've been really excited about. Like the other night I saw like a new episode came out and I watched it. I was so excited. Is it funny this season? Yeah. I mean, it's always funny. Yeah, it's fucking hilarious. That's what I'm confused about because I'm like, is it funny? It is. I watched one episode and everyone's like, it's like, and I'm like, it's what?

53:55Like, I don't understand. Because Nathan for you was like laugh out loud hysterical. Yeah, it's different because like there is like this very serious elements of it, but he's just fucking hilarious. Like, I don't know how to explain. He'll like, and yeah, he's just, he's just hilarious. Like, and I mean, I don't know. I don't want to spoil it for you, but like part of the bit a little bit of the whole thing is like, he's like, I'm trying to tackle a serious issue. you but right HBO gave me money to make me a to for me to make a comedy show so I have to make this kind of funny and that's like well I can't tell if he's fucking with like fucking with everyone or like serious ever exactly I don't know if that gets I would love to meet him long story short I would I would love to meet him he first of all the Manny who came in with the smoothie met him last night no yes and I saw him in my hotel I was staying at the Bowery in New York and I saw him twice did you say hi no because like i felt fraudulent because like well i did see some nathan for you like i wasn't like a rehearsal stand yet so i couldn't be like big fan that's respectable you know i think that's actually really respectable i think like with comedians like sometimes since they're always feeling like like comedians are sometimes very different than who they like present themselves as just because like they're performing you know and like yeah yeah sometimes it's nice to not be on and like i feel like in a hotel elevator like it's the last place he'd want to be like cornered that's really cool you thought about that 100 i probably would have pissed my pants really big nathan fielder fan huge i think he's just fucking hilarious and i wouldn't have been able to help myself yeah i would have been like those people i just i didn't feel that way about him enough oh you want to speaking of these type of stories the most starstruck I've ever been in my life like even I've been super I get starstruck all the time about people I really fuck with but I'll always say hey big fan whatever I saw Larry David I saw him at Toscana once that feels like a fucking Larry David spot I feel like he totally would go there I saw him at Toscana once I saw Larry David We were at like a, I think it was the Vanity Fair party, like the Oscar after party.

56:17And I saw him from afar and I was like, holy shit. And I went to walk towards him and then I literally was like, I can't do this. I turned around and I walked away. And I totally blew my shot at meeting him because I was that like geeked. I was like, I don't even know what I'm going to like, I don't know what I'm going to say. I don't know what I'm going to do. This is better off. Just left. And he's the type to be like, thanks. He's had to be like, fuck off. Yeah. In the, in the best way possible. And I'd be okay with that. But I was just like, I don't know if I'm ready to do all that. Were you a big curb fan?

56:51Yeah. Yeah. So you watch a lot of comedies. It's my favorite. Do you watch hacks? No. But I, I will, I will check it out. It's no, it's great. And what's it? What's, what's like the premise? So the premise is, It's this older comedian played by Gene Smart. Okay. And she basically needs to, like, review up her career. So her agent, who also reps this up-and-coming writer named Ava Daniels, played by Hannah Eibbinder, he pairs the writer with Gene. And it's just, like, this, like, back and forth between them two. It's really fun. And you're in it, right? I'm in a few episodes, yeah. But that's not why I asked.

57:30It was also my favorite TV show, like, before that. What's your role in it? I play like the social media coordinator to like Deborah Vance, who's the Gene Smarts character late night show. That's fucking cool. Have you ever seen The Other Two? The Other Two? No. You would love The Other Two. The Other Two's fucking hysterical. I'll tell you the comedies I've watched. Have you seen Veep? Veep? Veep? No, I've never seen it. You've never seen it? Oh, it's the best show of all time. Fuck, I'm missing out. Veep is like about, I don't even know how to describe it. Do you know Julia Louis-Dreyfus? Yeah.

58:04Have you seen Seinfeld? Oh, yeah. Yeah, her. Yeah. She plays the vice president in the show called Veep, and it's really fucking funny. Damn, I got to pay that. It's, like, actually hysterical. Damn. Those are all my recs for you. I'm always looking for new shows to watch. Anywho, do you want to get into the Tell Me What's Wrongs? Sure, let's go. My roommate walks around naked all the time in our apartment. I hate it. The worst part, she'll come out of her room while my boyfriend is over like it's nothing, and I just know he's catching a glance. Help. Sorry. what no I know it's this chair you missed it right one more time hold on so yes the roommate is walking out like butt ass fucking naked butt naked and this girl's like my boyfriend's like looking because she'll walk out naked in front of my boyfriend fuck yeah your roommate wants your boyfriend yeah is what I would say you're and I would say yeah yeah I agree because I agree because why would you do that?

59:02When the boyfriend's over? I understand if they're at the crib but if you know. I guess there's details that need to be figured out here. Does she know that the boyfriend's over? I mean, I assume that she can hear. Probably. I don't know. I'm trying to give her the benefit. I would just say, bitch, put on clothes. Like, my boyfriend's over. Yeah, exactly. I would probably be like, hey, do you mind putting on some clothes when my boyfriend's here? And if she says no, then it can be beef. Well, then it's like, oh, so you want to fuck my boyfriend. You want to fuck my boyfriend. Yeah. But I would be like, put on clothes.

59:35Like, we're not at a nudist resort, bitch. Yeah, we're at home. Yeah. And like, if you want to walk around naked, like, live by yourself. Because it's weirding me out. Period. If I was in like, a better mood, I'd probably like, prescribe like, a nice conversation. But I'm just like. No, no, no. You said what you said. I did say what I said. You said what you said. I said what I said. I'll second it. So my ex, did I just say what I say? Cool. So my ex-boyfriend sent my parents a letter about how unfair our breakup was. Oh, loser. He also shows up at my gym. He also tried calling my best friend at 2 a.m.

1:00:10Also, his parents leave notes on my car. What do I do? She needs a restraining order against him and his family. I was going to say, you need to walk into the fucking station and get that done immediately. Yeah. That's not good. Yeah, or like whichever parent you feel most comfortable physically fighting, be like. Let's go. Let's go. Let's fucking put them up. Yeah, I would. Why are the parents leaving notes on your car? Fucking freak. I hate when parents get involved like that. It's the weirdest thing. Strange behavior. Yeah. Strange behavior. I understand parents like, it was like giving like an elementary school or like middle school, like when my friend's parents would like be like, well, they're fighting.

1:00:48And my mom was like, I don't give a fuck. Right. She's like, why do you think I care that they're fighting? Yeah, for sure. I have a job. Yeah, exactly. I think, yeah. Ew. Yeah. I don't love that. That's crazy to me. Yeah. My sister drowned my hamster because she thinks I stole her boyfriend from a rumor from school. I am not well.

1:01:12Lots wrong with that. Right. So that's animal cruelty for sure. Yeah. Can you go to jail for that? Definitely. For drowning a hamster. Do you not like. I mean, why? I mean, can you just drown hamsters? Is that like a thing? No, you make a great point. And like I need PETA to chill out for five seconds because like I am just going to like question like what the vibe is like legality wise. So like PETA chill. Be very careful. Yeah, but like I'm just like wondering can you go to the cops be like, yo, my sister drowned my hamster. Like is that a jailable offense? like as a hamster like you know like if it was a dog god forbid like behind bars but like can you i see some favoritism going on in my my eyes i'm just saying well i think i think it's really fucked up that she drowned the hamster yeah you can't go to jail for drowning a hamster yes drowning a hamster in california could lead to jail time no so like i'm i agree with that i'm It's not that I'm not agreeing with that.

1:02:17I'm not saying you should drown a hamster. But I'm just saying I did not know. Before I gave this pussy advice, I want to know if she's just going to waste this cop's time. So, yeah. Well, it just really depends if you want your sister to go to jail. I would be fucking livid if my brother drowned my hypothetical hamster. I'd be livid. Well, your sister sounds like. I think we, yeah. She has other stuff going on, you know. Well, you know they say, you know what they say? What do they say? That's the first signs of, like a serial killer. Right, so what I would tell this pussy to do is - Therapy!

1:03:01No, I would say go to the cops if you want your sister to go to jail. But to get back at your sister, you need to start a rumor around the school and be like, my sister is a serial killer. She literally suffocated and drowned my hamster. So you think no therapy? Do we want the sister to get better? Do we want a redemption? How do you get better from that? You're a murderer. Well, maybe. Yeah. No, like therapy for sure. That's a crazy thing to happen. Maybe this, you know, I'm not going to make excuses for the sister. That poor hamster. Having a hamster as a pet is so wild to me. Like, what's the point?

1:03:40I don't know what side you're on right now. Yeah, like. I really can't tell. No, I'm saying I'm on the side of the main girl. Obviously, that's murder. I'm now questioning the point of having a hamster as a pet and also where hamsters come from and how they got domesticated. I maybe have extra sympathy. I've never owned a hamster. My friend did. Same, neither. And we were working together, and his hamster, while we were working together, had to go to the ER. How would he know that? He got a call from his girlfriend who was like, the hamster went into cardiac arrest. So the hamster was going to the ER and he was like, yo, I got to get out of here.

1:04:23My hamster's like going to the ER right now. So he dipped and unfortunately they tried like doing a surgery on the hamster. Hamster got through the surgery, but then went into cardiac arrest and died. And my friend, I guess I say that to say my friend was like devastated, rightfully so. No, it's devastated. It was a pet and he fucking loved it. and was devastated and was like, he was like really mourning the death of his hamster. So I think I have a different perspective because I saw a friend go through that and I definitely think hamsters should be treated with the most care and respect. No, of course.

1:05:01It's a living, breathing thing. My question just arises from, yes. That's okay. Jake, I know you're hot. That sister is a serial killer in the making. For sure. Yeah. I'm in my mid-twenties and I swear to God there is a new important event every fucking weekend. I feel like I can't say no because most of these are birthdays and weddings, but mama needs a break. Because most of them are birthdays and weddings. I feel that. That's tough. I think you can say no to birthdays. You can't say no to weddings if they're your close friends. It's just my opinion. Yeah, a wedding. Say no to weddings, tough.

1:05:34Have you been to a bunch of weddings? I've been to a bunch, no. Weddings are fucking expensive. Weddings are fucking expensive. I just had to buy a tux. Oh, You know, suits, randomly fucking really expensive. Yeah. And so I've never been to a non-black tie wedding. And so black tie is like you need a tux. So normally I'll rent a tux. But every time I rent said tux, I lose said tux. And then I have to pay for said tux's entire price. And so now I'm just going to buy a tux. Because I'm over losing it. That's good. That's a good investment. We also need a photo I look amazing in my new tux. Really?

1:06:11Are you having fun? Oh, dude. This is so much fun. I love this. I totally forgot that my last text to someone was, I want to die. Because they said, what do you want me to do? Okay, where is my tux suit picked? Aw, Jake. Oh, yeah. So cute. Thank you. I love it. Let's go. What a good tux. Cheek, right? Very. Very. Yeah, so, yeah. I would say my advice is you need to say no. Say no to the weddings that you don't have to go to. Yeah. It sounds like this person has a problem with FOMO, which I understand, but they need, you know. You need to chill, basically. Like, not you, but, like, but I don't know.

1:06:51I feel it. Like, you don't want to let people down, too. That's a real thing. Yeah. The show will go on without you. The show will go on. Like, the birthday's still happening and the wedding's still happening. You've got to prioritize yourself. But you will have a lot more FOMO from missing a wedding than a birthday. IMO. Oh, 100%. That's like a real, that only happens, well. it's not as common as birthdays. You know what I mean? Right. Birthdays happen once a year. Weddings are supposed to happen once in a life, but that's not the case. But, I mean, yeah. I mean, but, like, you know, hopefully you have 80-plus birthdays.

1:07:29You know what I mean? You can only really have a handful of weddings. Yeah. I mean, I've never seen more than, like, five. I'm excited my friend just got engaged, and it's going to be our first college wedding. So, like, our friend, like, it's going to be everyone we went to college with back for a wedding. Oh. And I am so fucking pumped. It's next summer. Yeah. And I cannot fucking wait. And I know because my manager, Louise, like, has, like, a wedding, like, every other month. Like, a college reunion wedding. And she's, like, they're the most fun I've ever had ever. Let's fucking go. Because you're just, like, you get to, like, kind of be, like.

1:08:09It's like a little, like a. It's a reunion. reunion it's like enclosed and the best weddings are weddings that aren't like are kind of like in another place or like a remote place so that everybody there is stuck there for the weekend you can't go anywhere else so the only option is to black out is it it's like a yeah 100 i saw kind of tangent kind of side note but like i saw like somebody i saw like one of those um like am i the asshole vibes i love the am i the asshole vibes yeah reddit it's the only reddit But I see it on, like, TikTok and shit. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And one of them was like, am I the asshole for, like, wanting a no-phone wedding?

1:08:49What do you think about that? I think it's totally valid. I think it is, too. I think it's totally valid. I've got to be honest. Like, yeah. As long as you're not a stickler about the photos taken at the wedding and you're like, here's for everyone. Yeah, for sure. I think more so off of the thought of like, and like, if it's like an emergency, it's a different thing, obviously. But I think off the thought of like wanting everybody to be like present, present and like, yo, if you need your phone, we'll fucking unlock it for you, whatever, give it to you. And I didn't mind the idea. I saw a lot of people that were kind of really against it.

1:09:24Do you ever, what do you feel about when people are on shows at a concert? Like, does that. When people are on shows? Like on phones at a concert. Oh, sorry. Sorry. When people are on phones at a concert, like, do you ever feel like, like, does that ever fuck with you while you're performing? No, it's, I mean, it's, I haven't, like, I've only experienced, like, the phone crowd generation. Right, right, you never got it before. It's just, like, normal, but, like, it is way cooler when you have, like, a crowd that's more focused on being in the moment, obviously, but I understand why people, you know, people want to record.

1:10:04Record and save memories. I think it's annoying when someone's doing it, like, every single fucking song. Right, right. It's like, you can, like, record memories. Like, I, you know, when I'm at a concert, sometimes I'll record a video. But, like, I think if you're, like, you know, 70, 80 percent just present, enjoying. I try to be very present at concerts. Yeah, you know. Especially because, like, maybe, I don't know, maybe some people don't realize this. but like you know for the most part usually like artists are like out there fucking like going crazy like you know i don't know not to make it a deep thing but like you know they're really trying to put on a show like right being vulnerable like you know and so sometimes when you know it's just like oh phone right right yeah just kind of like a little bit yeah maybe but i mean i don't know i'm not gonna lie and say it really bothers me because it really doesn't Right.

1:10:56Yeah, to be honest. But I can understand why people really hate it. Yeah, especially people that were performing before the phone crowd. Yeah, and I definitely do prefer a no phone crowd. It just doesn't bother me, really. My ex-situationship and I have a very hard time staying away from each other. We're so, so bad for one another, but I think that's why we still hook up. Help me, how do I grow up? We're so, so bad for each other. That's why I think we keep hooking up. Yeah, they can't stay away. It sounds very toxic. I've never had, like, a situation. Well, like, I've had, like, I have attachments issues.

1:11:30So it's just I've never been in that situation. I would say just going. It's really hard, but if you can just go, like, cold turkey. Don't talk. You know, obviously. No contact. Yeah, like, if you need, like, have the conversation, whatever the conversation needs to be. I think we should stop. Whatever, whatever, whatever. And then from there, once that's, like, close and done, you just got to be disciplined and be like, I'm not going to. no contact yeah I think that's easy I mean that's like I don't know I think that's probably the it's kind of hard to do but like yeah I mean that's really the only way you're really gonna move on right yeah at least for like yeah a long period of time you know and then and then and then if yeah and then when you hail and you guys come back together be friends or whatever happens down the line but I think like to really, really get over, you gotta let go and it sounds pretty cliche but you do gotta go think about yourself and focus on that and do all the things.

1:12:34My roommate is a pathological liar and lies about having cancer and a handful of other medical things for attention. We're in a year lease. What the fuck do I do? So I have the ultimate prescription. I know what this person needs to watch. There's a documentary about this. There's also a show about this. Real Housewives of Orange County. this one housewife's boyfriend at the time lies about having cancer and they find out on the show. So you should watch that. What season? I think it's nine or ten. What documentary are you... Oh, oh, oh. Are you talking about apple cider vinegar? Yes. Yes. Yeah.

1:13:10Yes. Yes. I haven't... To be completely honest. That takes place in Australia. It does. I haven't watched the full thing but I've definitely heard about it. I've definitely seen... Right. Clips. I would try to break the lease or just like... I'd definitely break the lease. I would definitely encourage your friend to get some serious help. Yeah, that's crazy. I would, yeah, maybe encourage some distance. Definitely move out. Definitely another no contact situation maybe. I would also watch Glee. You ever watch Glee because Terry Schuster pretends to be pregnant? You know what? I remember Glee being on the TV when I was a kid.

1:13:46I never, like, locked in on it. You got to lock the fuck in. Especially all the time. Okay. Of all fucking time Lee is the greatest of all time I've heard it I've heard that people say that Yeah It's just perfect Start from the jump right? Oh Yeah You have to start from the jump The pilot's one of the best pilots ever Of all time I believe I saw you just interviewed Yes Lee and Michelle Lee and Michelle It's my man It was That was really cool It was unbelievable I remember leaving that interview I smiled when I saw that post Yeah It was really wholesome When I left that interview Well when she left the room I looked around Do you remember that Nolan?

1:14:17I looked around and I was like Yeah that eight like that was the best moment of my entire life yeah I saw you said something like that and I was like that's really sweet okay well Leroy what did we learn today hamsters should definitely be taken care of and it's illegal to kill one not that I was ever planning on killing a fucking hamster but I just didn't know if it was like punishable by law exactly yeah I'm just saying like I didn't know if it was punishable by law we also learned that you live in a hotel. We learned I live in a hotel. I mean, I didn't learn that. You learned that. Yes, I learned that you live in a hotel and you live in the Suite Life of Zach and Cody vibes.

1:14:59That really, yeah. Do you know what I'm talking about? I know exactly what you're talking about. I know, that's why I was like, yes. Yes, I am. And we learned that people are going through some fucking shit, I guess, and have some crazy roommates and slash sisters slash shit going on. And we learned that you have new music on the way. I learned that. Fuck, yeah. I guess we didn't even talk about that. We didn't talk about that. Should we? For like five seconds? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm like, dude, we spent all this time talking about fucking hamsters. Okay. So before we end, tell me about your new project and when you see it coming out and what the vision is and everything about it.

1:15:42I don't know. This project is like, it's like a lot, it's a lot more fun, you know? I mean, it's still obviously personal. there's still like super personal songs on there and and and whatever and you know i always describe this project as being like a happy project like having fun dancing type of thing but there are like still sad songs on there there's still like you know um there is still still those type of pockets on there but i mean i don't know i kind of went into it just being like i wanted to make music that I could like play like on a night out or something you know like I think like this is like a really weird thing but like I noticed that when I would like go outside like to like a club or something and like the DJ might be like yo yo like I want to play one of your songs like what song should I play and I would be like and I'll be like fuck I don't really have any songs that like you can play right now that like right will feel you know i mean the closest one was really like stay or something like that but i don't know yeah i kind of realized like damn i don't have a lot of like music for like this type of environment and so i guess like the mission in the beginning was like i just want to make music that like that like can be played outside and played for people to have fun and dance to because i kind of have made like a lot of sad music and a a lot of like, you know, kind of more emotional leaning stuff.

1:17:09And there's still that stuff on there, but I don't know, just taking a bit more sonic risk.

1:17:17Melodically trying new things, you know, been working with, you know, different people and just trying to like experiment. I did, yeah. So just a lot of that and kind of figured, you know, in the beginning that was like the intention. Then it kind of became, the project kind of became like a, whole story now. Yeah. Which is cool, which is how it usually goes anyway. You set out with like one intention and then it kind of like shapes into like this like body of work vibe. What do you think the story of the album is? I mean, it's really like a love album, you know, which is, which is cool. You know, it's a lot of love songs.

1:17:58And so, I'm not going to give away too much. But yeah, it's just, you know, it's not like a, you know, top to bottom, like, exact, you know, story. But, like, when you, funny enough, like, now that it's sequenced, when I listen to it top to bottom, I'm like, wow, that's cool. It feels like a little. Makes sense. Yeah, like, it feels like it strings together. It feels like a full, like, thing. And, yeah, it's cool. Right now we're just, it's done. The album's done. The album's done. It's done. Yeah, it's done. Right now we're just working on little transitions and little, like, skits. Oh, fun, fun, fun.

1:18:33All the songs itself are actually done, and they're ready to go. We're about to shoot the album cover next week. It's coming around really quickly, which is really crazy. But yeah, I don't know. I think it was just about... Also, this album, I didn't want to overthink too much. The last album took me two and a half years to make, and this, I was just kind of not overthinking a lot of songs. Although, naturally, now that it's done, I'm definitely overthinking. You just kind of have to get it out. But I'm just kind of like listening to that. Now I'm like, all right, I've got to try and take a break from even listening to this.

1:19:11I still do. I listen to my songs when I make them a lot, which I think, because I'm trying to hear things or I'm trying to figure out, okay, what is this slot or what is this, whatever. But then sometimes I get to a point where I play it so much that then I start picking at little different things and I'm like, oh, I can't change this or it's going to just change this song. And it's going to change how I felt about it in the moment. But yeah, I think when I'm making a track list in general, I'm always very conscious of what's the story that's being told, how things are going. Yeah, I'm just really excited for people to hear it.

1:19:48I think it's like I'm really happy with it and my friends like it, you know, and that's all we can really know. This album number three? Four? It's technically number two. technically but like some would say number three because the first the first album was like technically classified as a mixtape but it was an album got it like it was that's where i don't i like to claim it as a mixtape because i just don't like to claim it as an album right you know yeah but it is it is technically not like it was a yeah it was an album so it's it's number two but i guess number three to some people i'm excited to hear it thanks bro yeah i want to when it's when it's fully done, I want to send you like a real, yeah, I'm excited.

1:20:29I loved, yeah, yeah, what was your favorite? I'm curious. I know what your favorite one that you sent me was, because I sent you a bunch of random things at one time that are just kind of like, my favorite one that you sent me was move your body. I love your body. Let's go. Yeah, I was into it. I was like, I want to hear this on night out. Wow. Well, our next night out, we did the job. Yeah, you did do the job. Let's go. Well, Leroy, thank you for coming on therapist. Thanks for having me. I was really excited about this. Did you have fun? I had so much fun. And I was really excited about this prior.

1:20:59Me too. I was so excited. I was so hyped, yeah. Will you give a little bye, pussies? Bye, pussies. Bye, pussies. Bye, pussies.

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