Session 92: Dylan Efron

4 Sep 2025 · 1 h 2 min · 34 chapters

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In short

Dylan Efron appears on Therapist to discuss dating/online dating (Bumble), gratitude and journaling, injuries and vertigo, competitive past experiences (The Traitors), travel/sustainability show Down to Earth, and personal “best moments” (high school/college, fake ID stories, first driving experience). They also talk about Dylan’s upcoming Dancing with the Stars season and their shared TV/music nostalgia.

Guest backgrounds

Dylan Efron is a TV personality/creator who co-created/appears in Down to Earth (Sustainability + travel). She previously worked behind the camera as a PA at Warner Bros for seven years, then moved in front of the camera. She has a long-term relationship with Zach (about 4.5 years older). She has a rescue dog, Bowie, from I Stand With My Pack.

Key claims

Gratitude can be practiced by reframing “first world problems” and writing two-sentence journals. Negative self-talk can be “corrected” by journaling. Fitness/happiness is tied to her ability to work out, and injuries (back spasm, vertigo) are frustrating. She’s excited to learn dancing publicly.

Notable examples

The Traitors “round table” moments; composting misconceptions; vertigo making it hard to look at her phone; Down to Earth’s sustainability/travel premise; fake ID used at a Japanese restaurant; breaking her wrist after getting super drunk; first license as “freedom”; planning to learn to drive before DWTS.

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Chapters

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Dylan Efron's Dog and Rescue Experience

2:05 to 2:55

Dylan shares the story of his rescue dog and how he became a pet owner.

“Today we have on Dancing with the Stars' newest contestant and one of my dear friends, dare I say, Dylan Efron.”

Traveling and Sustainability with Down to Earth

2:55 to 4:20

Dylan discusses his travel show and its focus on sustainability.

“How can we turn the like what we love into a show?”

Living on a Farm and Future Aspirations

4:20 to 5:44

Dylan shares his dreams of living on a farm and his future plans.

“I'd probably try to find like a random thing like avocados or something or like a random fruit that's like exotic.”

Experiences from Traders

5:44 to 6:39

Dylan reflects on his time on the reality show Traders and the excitement of the experience.

“So what was like the most fun part of it?”

Practicing Gratitude and Personal Reflection

6:39 to 8:35

Dylan and the host discuss the importance of gratitude and self-reflection.

“and be like, wow, that was truly an unforgettable moment.”

Journaling, Mental Health, and Accountability

8:35 to 14:00

The conversation turns to journaling, mental health, and holding each other accountable.

“So like I'll be hard on myself or something.”

The Mindset of Competing

14:00 to 15:00

Explore the mental aspects of competing in Ironman events.

“Do you ever like take a break to breathe or is it just nonstop?”

Nature vs. Comfort: A Show Idea

15:00 to 16:40

Discussion about finding the best air-conditioned hotels as a show concept.

“Wait, so what season of Down to Earth are you guys on now?”

AC Preferences and Hotel Experiences

16:40 to 20:10

A light-hearted debate on different types of air conditioning in hotels.

“they look like they're out of the 1920s and they're always in the corner of the room and they just pump AC out.”

Sibling Dynamics and High School Musical

20:10 to 22:30

Dylan shares his experience growing up with his brother, Zach, and the impact of High School Musical.

“I have this thing though where I always miss the third one in every movie series.”
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TV Shows and Emotional Connections

22:30 to 24:40

Discussion on various TV shows and the emotional responses they evoke.

“Well, I'm rewatching Scandal right now, which I doubt you've seen.”

Social Media and Birthday Nostalgia

24:40 to 27:20

A nostalgic look back at social media interactions during birthdays.

“Dylan, what are you therapist about today?”

The Evolution of Event Planning

27:20 to 28:00

Comparison of Facebook events to modern event planning tools like Partiful.

“It was the most – and I was just like – I would open my computer, and I would click the little world symbol of all my notifications and see everybody that wrote on my wall.”

Nostalgia for Facebook Events

28:00 to 29:00

Discussing the nostalgic aspects of Facebook events compared to other platforms.

“Well, Facebook tells you when it's your birthday.”

MySpace Memories and Music

29:00 to 30:20

Recollecting experiences on MySpace, including the significance of profile songs.

“Yeah, I honestly never used Facebook that much.”

Video Games of the Past

30:20 to 31:40

A discussion about favorite childhood video games and their impact.

“I don't even know what that is Maps They don't love you like I love you Wait Yes!”

High School and Party Music

31:40 to 32:21

Reflecting on how music was played at parties during high school years.

“You could do some bad stuff in the game.”

High School and Party Music

32:25 to 33:50

Reflecting on how music was played at parties during high school years.

“So I hope you guys use booking.com to book your vacation.”

High School Memories: Parties and Friends

34:02 to 35:10

Sharing memorable moments and friendships from high school experiences.

“Wait, so should I answer my high school freshman year?”

Adventures in Nature

35:10 to 37:00

Adventures taken with friends, including trips to Death Valley.

Car Troubles and Road Trips

37:00 to 38:20

Facing challenges during road trips, including car overheating incidents.

“and there's a cool dune that we stopped by that we've all ran down the dune and are you like yay yeah i do remember though that uh the car was overheating because it was so hot uh yeah And this is like our first car.”

Body Image and Confidence

38:20 to 39:50

A conversation about body image and confidence in social situations.

“How does it feel to be able to take your shirt off and be like, I look good?”

High School Party Experiences

39:50 to 42:00

Discussing early experiences with parties, drinking, and fake IDs in high school.

“Yeah those are good The hydration packs?”

College Memories and Fake IDs

42:00 to 44:29

Explore humorous college anecdotes involving fake IDs and drinking culture.

“Like I was still afraid my fake ID wouldn't work in college.”

High School Adventures and Bull Riding

44:30 to 46:38

Discussing high school experiences, including vaping and unique college electives like bull riding.

“But people would try to get away with smoking weed indoors, and they would always get caught.”

The Importance of Getting a Driver's License

46:39 to 47:20

A discussion about the significance of obtaining a driver's license and the freedom it represents.

“Like I literally, like you're talking about best moments.”

Dancing with the Stars Excitement

47:21 to 48:20

Dylan shares his feelings about joining Dancing with the Stars and the challenges of dancing.

“So can I learn how to drive in your Toyota?”

Discussing Dance and Performance Anxiety

48:21 to 50:30

Dylan discusses his anxiety about dancing and how he hopes the experience will help him.

“And by the way, it's not ending anytime soon, so don't get too comfortable leaving.”

Discussing Dance and Performance Anxiety

51:47 to 51:57

Dylan discusses his anxiety about dancing and how he hopes the experience will help him.

“So thank you, Bumble, for sponsoring these Tell Me What's Wrongs.”

Navigating Breakups and Relationships

51:58 to 56:00

The hosts provide insights on breakups, dating experiences, and navigating relationships.

“That's a good sign you didn't really like the relationship.”

Navigating Situationships and Vulnerability

56:00 to 57:14

Explore the emotional complexities of situationships and the challenges of vulnerability.

“Yeah so it's not even if it's a situation ship It sounds like they were emotionally Involved so then Yeah it's totally normal to feel like shit after a four-month situationship.”

Astrology Insights and Personal Connections

57:14 to 58:27

A light-hearted discussion about astrology and personal traits based on zodiac signs.

“I can't be vulnerable at all with anyone.”

Reflections on Heartbreak and Music

58:27 to 59:53

A candid conversation about the impact of heartbreak and the role of music in healing.

“All I know is Aquarius and Pisces You gotta figure out what your rising is I would guess that you're like a Pisces rising too It could be.”

Learning to Drive and Loving Nature

59:53 to 1:01:15

Discussing the absurdity of not having a driver's license and a shared love for nature.

“What music are you listening to right now?”
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Transcript

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0:40hi pussies welcome back to therapist tonight we have on my king dylan efron we met on a samsung shoot and we just had the best day together and he was making me laugh really hard and i was like we gotta come on therapist and now he's here also I partnered with Bumble and um we did some special tell me what's wrongs that were dating themed for tonight's episode which were fun to answer especially because Dylan's in a long-term relationship and I never had a boyfriend um but I actually recently just started using Bumble because I feel like online dating is the new like meeting someone at a bar and I changed to Bumble because I like needed to go to a new bar and I needed a change of scenery.

1:26But I'm having a great time on Mumble and I'm very excited to be working with them. Also, I'm going to have you guys in the future revamp my profile. Let me know what you guys think of tonight's episode because I thought the tell me what's wrong section was really fun to do. Anywho, you can see Dylan in the new season of Dancing with the Stars, which was just announced today. He is going to be amazing in it. It's going to be amazing. And I don't really have anything else to add besides the fact that I'm re-watching Scandal and it's making me want to fall in love. To submit Tell Me What's Wrongs, go to pastthatpuss.com, click Tell Me What's Wrong, leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy, and enjoy the episode.

2:00Love you, pussies.

2:04Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapist. Today we have on Dancing with the Stars' newest contestant and one of my dear friends, dare I say, Dylan Efron. Thank you for having me. What an intro. I'm so excited. I'm excited. Oh, my gosh. Well, can you tell the viewers about who this is before we begin? This is Bowie. And he looks, oh, yeah. He's hamming it up. Yeah, I've had Bowie about five years. He's like, goes everywhere with me. Really? And you rescued him? Yeah, he was a rescue from I Stand With My Pack. They're a great organization. But I got him right at the end of COVID. And then. So he's a COVID dog?

2:42I guess so. I just come back from filming Down to Earth Season 2. And then came home, got him immediately. Okay. And how did the idea for Down to Earth start from just like all your travel vlogs? Yeah, pretty much. Like that was always what Zach and I loved the most was like, how can we travel? How can we turn the like what we love into a show? And so it kind of matched all these boxes for us. It was like sustainability, travel, and then us traveling the world. Oh, are you sustainable? Yeah, I try to be. Okay, so like you recycle and stuff? Yeah, I recycle and stuff. Okay. Do you compost? I've tried.

3:17I'm not good at it. What is compost? Compost is like all the scraps of all your food waste and everything. And then it becomes this very nutrient dense. I knew it was meat. I was throwing out leftover meat in the compost and everyone was telling me that that's not what it's for. No, I think it's mostly like fruit and stuff like fruit banana peels. Oh, okay. Stuff like that. And then it becomes this nutrient dense stuff that you can repurpose. Okay. I don't have a big yard. I like I don't like if I lived on a farm and had chickens. Yeah. Do you want to live on a farm and have chickens? I would love that.

3:51Really? Yeah. OK. Like in how many years would you want to live on a farm and have chickens? Oh, gosh. Like probably two. Like if I had kids and stuff, I would love to move out somewhere. Two years? Yeah. Two years you want to live on a farm and have chickens. Yeah. Where would you where would you want your farm? Probably like it's so hard for me to leave California because I'm born and raised here. So maybe somewhere like Ojai or just close enough that I could still get to the city. Okay. Or even in my hometown, like St. Louis Spisbara. Would you sell stuff out of your farm? Yeah, I think so.

4:27What would you sell? I already mentioned chickens. I think like... Eggs? I don't know. I'd probably try to find like a random thing like avocados or something or like a random fruit that's like exotic. And I'd be known for that. I'm like selling dragon fruits. Right. So what are the chickens there for? For my compost. For my compost. Okay. Okay. And so what would you like call your farm business?

4:57Misguided. Misguided. Misguided. Yeah. From traders. Oh, okay. Misguided compost chickens. Misguided compost. Not environment effron. Oh, okay. I'm open. I don't like it. Wait, so can you tell me how Traders was? I mean, I'm sure you've talked about it at Nauseam, but did you enjoy it? I loved it. I remember my first day, like I'm used to like union stuff. So it's like you have 12 hours on. We finished at like 2, 3 a.m. And I was like, oh, at least we don't have to start till 3 the next day. My call time was like 7. And I was like, wait, wait, wait. Is it not union? It is, but they like somehow work the system.

5:36Like you are in it. So like, right. When we got too tired, they could, they would know and they would give us like a full day rest. So what was like the most fun part of it? Like you, but I heard you were like in the game. Yeah. Like I heard you were like that you were dead serious about it. I was. Yeah. I'm competitive in that way. The best part was truly like just, I'd say that's twofold. It was like those round table moments where like my heart was beating through my chest. Oh, it was like, it was fucking serious. So serious and so scary. So like that's fun for that. But then also just all the off-camera laughs.

6:14Like we're bringing 20 like very interesting people all into the same castle and like getting to know everyone, hearing all their stories. Like that was really what stood out to me. Would you do it again? I would. Yeah, I would. I feel like it looks really fun. I think that's like my thing is like if I did it again, who knows how I would do whatever it is. But it's like it was such a memorable experience to me and that's what life's about. Like, I'll always look back at that year and be like, wow, that was truly an unforgettable moment. What was, like, your favorite year of your life so far? Oh, wow.

6:51I would, hard to argue with this last one. So, the Trader's Year. Yeah, the Trader's Year. Like, it was just so new to me. Like, all this, like, I've got to go to so many fancy events and, like, I don't know. I'm so grateful for it all. So I think it was, it's so noteworthy because it was different than the rest of my life. The rest of my life, I've been very humble, like doing my own thing. And I don't know, just kind of live it, like living my, what I like and stuff this year was just so different. So I like it. Well, you used to work as a PA, right? Yeah. So was it, when you were on set for Traders, like, did it feel weird that you were on the opposite side of it?

7:32A little. I think social media helped a lot with that. Because like when I, yeah, I worked at Warner Brothers for seven years and was like on set and always behind the camera. So I understand how that world works. And then social media really helped me like find my voice and be comfortable in who I am. So then when I started stepping in front of camera, I was like, okay, I'm not this nervous kid that like can't be on screen like I thought I was. Like I can, I just have to be comfortable in who I am. And I think that's why it took me a while to ever like share my story and stuff like that. Right, right.

8:04And so you said like you're a grateful person. Yes. How do you do that? What do you mean? Like, how do you like, well, I've been told often by someone that shall not be named Louise that I am ungrateful. So I would just like to know how you practice gratitude. How do I practice gratitude? I know what you mean though Because it's like You talk about first world problems And like first world problems can really Well I just like love to complain Yeah Like I woke up today and I was like I think it's just you have to catch yourself in those moments Once in a while and be like wow This is not the end of the world This is such a small blip And I have so much to be thankful for Totally how do you do that I will say have you ever journaled that's kind of me look i tried like twice same i tried twice but i but i was told what changed my life the other day was like you don't need to journal that much like you can write two sentences and that's your journal for the day same and so like i i've done it i've gone through phases i cannot continue doing it like okay wait wait wait what would you want to journal like together like we'll hold each other accountable for journaling wait i'm in for this this is good yeah okay oh but that scared me so um i'm down to journal like that and we'll it'll probably fade to like once a week but now even well how many yeah probably once a week but i'm i'm down because i want to be held accountable what i was going to say about journaling is like i'm sure you're the same way like i have an active brain like my inner voice can be super negative and like what I do not get that from you.

9:50Tell me more. I think everybody's can be negative. So like I'll be hard on myself or something. Like I don't know. Like maybe like I think I was journaling during traders and I was mad at myself for doing something. So like my inner voice, I'm like, God, I can't believe I made that mistake. I go to write it down in a journal. I can't write negative things about myself. It's like I'm thinking these negative things. How, oh, I wish I could have would have done this. I'm an idiot. it and then I go to journal it and I'm like you tried your best you were yourself you were authentic and it's like all these nice things let me ask you can you type negative things about yourself I haven't tried that okay because I do that frequently but I think that's so interesting I'm gonna try to write negative about myself today and let you know how that works positive right okay um papiana hey you're going crazy boo get up here did you were you able to bring him on set for traders no i wish i kept saying that were you sad yeah because alan got to bring his dog and i would see him every day what a double standard i know but i was saying there should be a version where we all bring our dogs right it would be like it would feel like a home big castle with dogs running everywhere what was the word you taught me again dust dust have you used it no but have you been using tears no have you is it has it faded yet or are you still it's dust it's dust it's dust for me louise do you remember dust um i need to start using tears more all right dust more i use tears enough tears is the best though because like like i woke up yesterday at 6 a.m it was tears yeah for you it would be dust no i hurt i threw out my back and i would like that's tears yeah tears and dust when did you throw out your back I did it, um, God, I did it like two days ago when I was in the, um, the Hamptons.

11:41It was. What? You were in the Hamptons two days ago? I was. For what? Just fun? Yeah. Oh, okay. But, but, uh, it was so stupid. I was, yeah, I literally, I, I watched this like sex in the city clip where Miranda like fell in the shower and then someone had to. Do you watch sex in the city? A little bit. Not a lot. What a little? A little is like I've probably watched like 15 episodes That's a lot But it was literally that Like my agent had to come in And like help me put my pants on Because I couldn't What? Yeah I couldn't move I was like Garrett Like this is Cone Red Is that age? I don't know I've always done stuff like this How old are you?

12:2133 I knew that Feels like everybody's 33 these days I did it with someone 33 You were saying you're like scared of turning 25 Is that what it was? 26 26. Yeah. Yeah. No, life gets better. Really? Yeah. Like I've been throwing out my back since 20, since I was 25. Like everyone that says your body gets worse as you get older. Like I don't believe that. Okay. But you're, you like to work out a lot. So what do you, how do you work out if you throw out your back? I can't. And that's when I get depressed and starts, start getting angry. I, I, uh, my like ability to work out and like sweat and stuff is so tied my happiness, which I wish it wasn't that way, but it really is.

13:01Have you been like that your entire life? Yeah. Yeah. Even more so in the past. Cause like I, in my probably like early twenties and stuff, I was doing Ironmans and like super competitive triathlons. What's an Ironman again? Ironmans are like the marathon, a two mile swim and 110 mile bike. So it's like, what's the point? Yeah, exactly. That's why I don't do it anymore. Did you ever complete one? Yeah. I was And how do you – okay. I was good at it. Have you ever shit your pants on one? No, but you pee your pants a lot. You peed your pants? Oh, no. You wear a diaper? Yeah, no. You just do it while you're running and no one knows.

13:38Because you have to pee so bad? Yeah. Oh, and you do it on the bike? You kind of just hop off the bike a little bit, hop off the seat. Then once you start, you're like, all right, you can pedal through everything. But the worst is when you're following someone and they start peeing and you're like, ah. No way. Yeah, you have to pee right away. But is it just the time or is it just – what is it? Like my fastest Ironman, I finished in 10 and a half hours. So it's, I had to pee. And why though? Again, yeah. Do you ever like take a break to breathe or is it just nonstop? No, you can't. Like for me, I was competing.

14:08So I was on. No headphones, nothing. Like just, yeah. So what do you listen to? No, you couldn't listen. No headphones. So, oh, like what's going through your head? Again, my inner voice. Being like, I'm doing an Ironman? Yeah. Like I could do this. either positive or negative depending on the race. Some people do have to stop if they have to poop their pants. Really? Luckily that never happened to me. Have you ever been behind someone that's shit their pants? No, but I've seen people running into the urinals, which would suck. If you're on a 10-hour race, you're up there competing for first or second, and then you have to run into the urinal to take a crap, that's got to be a shitty feeling.

14:49Take a crap. I haven't heard that in so long. Do you use that frequently? I guess. I don't know. Wow. Once a day. Oh, I have not heard that in so long. Wait, so what season of Down to Earth are you guys on now? We're wrapped up. We've done two. And you're done? We're done with that franchise. Zach and I have talked about starting a new show, and I think we can start filming that next year. Okay, can I pitch something to you? Yeah, let's hear it. I don't like nature at all. Sorry. I mean, I respect it. Like, deeply. We'll work on that. But my version of, like, a vacation is, like, the strongest Wi-Fi connection in an air-conditioned room, no matter what fucking temperature it is outside.

15:37So would you ever do a show where you found the best air-conditioned hotels across America and the world?

15:48This would never sell. Really? Let's see, how can we make it fun? Oh God, the hotel in Montauk, that's such good AC Really? Yeah, it was bombing What's the best AC you've ever been in?

16:06It has to be somewhere that's like humid Because I know mine What's yours? My old apartment When I was growing up in New York We had this massive fucking AC in the living room And I would just stand there on summer days and put my whole body in front of the AC and be like, wow, life is beautiful. See, I'm a fan of the small AC units in hotels. No, the ones that are in the corner that are all white and you don't know what any of the buttons do, but they pump a huge fan at you. What shape are they? They're those white machines, I think, that are like, I don't know, they look like they're out of the 1920s and they're always in the corner of the room and they just pump AC out.

16:47I like that kind over the big central AC. I hate central AC. Yeah, it's terrible. You want to know what's diabolical? What? Central AC on an airplane. Oh, yeah. Might as well crash. Yeah. Some of them have like the, some of them have like the phone or the white like steam come out. Like Delta has that. Have you ever seen that? Delta has personable AC. I don't know if that's the word, but you can turn your, there's three knobs for two people, which I respect, and you can turn the knobs as much as you need. And they usually start once the, like, you know, I'm like in another life, Dylan. Delta's pretty awesome.

17:20Are you a Delta boy? I've been converted. I've been converted too. What's your status? Right now I am platinum medallion. Me too. And I'm about to be diamond. How? Like you're almost there? Like I have two more flights. Well, actually one more flight. What do you get at diamond? I don't know. Me neither. I don't know, but I'm really excited. Actually, when we were on set for Samsung together, the girl who was doing, I think it was like nails and stuff was like I am Delta Diamond and sometimes they like pick me up from the plane when I land see so like next time you're hard on yourself and ungrateful just be like I'm Delta Diamond like I have nothing to be sad about like honestly I guess it'll pick you up what were you before Delta United I've got the highest on that one oh what's that what's that about um it's called platinum premium no premium premier platinum okay and what why were you a united king the most uh international flights i'd say you're fucking lying i swear like united yeah if you look up like most flight flights of any airlines united's number one and they fly internationally like everywhere okay so tell me why you switched to delta i didn't fully switch i'm status matched and now i'm in the delta as well so i'm getting both status okay have you ever been to the delta one lounge that's why i switched it's incredible it's pretty life-changing you know what i did on this last trip to montauk was like i went i so i went before and like got the meal at lax then we landed like at the delta one restaurant at the delta what did you what meal did you get sushi and how what is so good it's so such good sushi what like this is why this last year is so cool to me like i know the fact that i know all this about first class flight right i never knew exactly I've been slumming it in the back for so long.

19:14This is the best perk in the world. Wait, so what's your age difference between you and Zach? Four and a half years. So that's not big at all. No, we grew up together, but he was definitely the older brother. So was it like, so when you were in like, so what age did he do High School Musical? Oh, early. Like he was probably 16 or 17. so you were 12 so you showed up to school like yeah you know that movie you're watching yeah I think I was probably a freshman in high school when high school musical came out like I remember watching it with a few of my friends like downstairs with my dad and did any of you like anticipate no not at all but like the weirdest thing to say about it is like I had no idea anything in the movie industry like I knew my brother was going to be on a Disney show so it was so exciting to me like to me it was already my Super Bowl the fact that it turned into something as big as it was like it was already that big to me so like I and then as far as like my brother like I always looked up to him like when I was 12 he was 16 with muscles and stuff like working out so I'm always like how do you work out and like he was teaching me that stuff so like I always looked up to him so then when everyone else started looking up to him it was like of course my big brother so that that's kind of how it always felt so I was I was never surprised that he became what he is.

20:40That's crazy. Yeah. I love High School Musical. You know I've never seen the third one. You haven't? The third one's awesome. I have this thing though where I always miss the third one in every movie series. Is it a thing that like you don't want it to end? Maybe because I never finished have you ever seen Friday Night Lights? Yeah. I've never seen the last episode of Friday Night Lights. I do the same thing. I get to the last episode and then I like don't want it to end and I just don't watch it. Like I did that with the Michael Jordan documentary. I did it with... swing or no stick the one that just came out most series i don't watch the last you really like sports huh i do yeah what else do you watch um i just finished mobland have you watched that do you like do you like i you well when i had covid in 2021 i was addicted to the mafia like addicted like i watched all this mafia stuff like i was talking like a wise guy like i was like in it to win it you start mob land it is so scripted scripted but not over the top like my least favorite thing is when i i always use ozark as an example i've never seen ozark okay well don't so i use it as a negative like season one of ozark i'm like i'm excited and i'm like this is a good show pretty soon like second season third season it's like i can see the writers being like Like, let's, like, all right, if the main character's in this position, this is what people will expect, this is what people won't expect, let's do this, which no one would ever expect.

22:08It was super unrealistic. So it was just, like, so unrealistic. And it feels like they're just, like, a bunch of writers thinking of the craziest thing that could happen. That's, like, when I fall off of shows. So I fell off of Ozark big time. Mobland is the same way. Like, you can never predict what's going to happen, but it feels realistic. Okay, have you ever seen The Sopranos? No, I haven't. Seems like you would love it. I would. I've never seen it either. Have you ever seen Breaking Bad? Yeah. Well, the best. Great. Incredible. But I could rewatch it. It's been... Well, I'm rewatching Scandal right now, which I doubt you've seen.

22:44Yeah, she nodded. Scandal will change. Talk about unrealistic, but it will quite literally... Like, when I watch Candle, like, I'm, like, I've never felt this way before about a show. Like, I can't control, like, my feelings about the show. Like, I, like, moan. I scream. I yell. Like, I can't. Like, I've never, like, I can't describe to you how amazing it is. It's seven seasons. It's a soap opera, essentially, about, um, you kind of just got to watch. Who's the lead in it? Kerry Washington, Tony Goldwyn, and Scott Foley. I'll watch it. I just finished Mobland in like two days, so I need something new.

23:27Oh my God, I'm going to be sick thinking about it. Like every single night I've been watching Scandal and I just go to bed and I'm like, I know she's, they've got me. They've got me. It's really that good. And I think, have you ever seen Goodfellas? Yeah. Okay, well that's the mafia movie I watched when I was sick. What's your genre of things to watch? Are you like a feel good or do you like, you want like anxiety right before bed? I just want to like be like, oh my god I wasn't expecting that. Okay watch Bob Webb. That's my pitch. Or Ozark. No Ozark's stupid. What? It's stupid. Said no one ever literally.

24:01Like season one's good. I'll give it that. Okay have you seen Weapons yet? No. Okay well the girl from Love has seen Weapons. I feel like you've listed like six that I haven't watched and now I'm questioning myself. No no I just have a lot of time on my hands. I watched Escape from Dannemora. Did you watch that one? I know that existed. What is that? Did you watch Severance? Well of course. Okay, so the same director, it's Ben Stiller, directed this escape from prison that's based on a true story. Have you ever seen Prison Break? Yeah. I've never seen Prison Break. Maybe I should dive in. It was so good.

24:33Apparently people really love it. The OG seasons, it fell off a little bit. That's what I've heard. The first two seasons are so fun. Okay, maybe I'll give it a shot. Dylan, what are you therapist about today?

24:46Like what do I want to dive into? No, like what are you angry about? What am I angry about? my back spasm. Still? It's still thrown out? It's like getting better. But yeah, I just went through this little phase of injuries that's really been frustrating me. What other injuries? I got vertigo for the first time. Have you ever had vertigo? What is that? Because my dad says he has that, and I just don't believe it. My mom says she gets it. And it's one of those things that you don't believe. Like I always try to like, as soon as I show up to my mom's house, I'm like, hey, let's go for a walk it's like such an annoying little like thing i do but i always want to get her out and like it's more fun for me to catch up with her while we're doing something active right so like i show up let's let's go for a walk and she's like oh no i have vertigo like right now i don't want to and it's like when you hear someone say that you're just like that sounds like an excuse when i had vertigo oh my god what is that the world feels like you're like about to fall over like i couldn't look at my phone because it was my phone was this so like i was out walking buoy I'm walking down the hill and I was like I'm gonna fall down like it looked like I was about like it like on the edge of a cliff and I was just like Swing you can't go on your phone.

25:54So how do you fix that? It just went away But it was so how long were you not able to like go on a lecture about a day and a half I had so many messages that I was just like Tried to respond. I'm like, I care. Isn't that the best feeling one time? I was away for two weeks and I got two texts And I was like, uh, I know people knew I was away, but i'm still really offended then yeah that that was like traders wait you didn't get text when you turn your phone on from traders no because we did because they announced the cast while we're out there so we hadn't had our phone for a full week they they announced the cast my so i opened my phone after not having it for a week and then i was just flooded with messages i was just like oh like that was an overload it wasn't good feeling no i couldn't even look at the phone I love an overload of messages It's like on my birthday when I wake up Do you remember like your first birthday that like you had social media that you got like a hundred or a thousand messages?

26:55You know it was back in the day of Facebook So I think it must have been like my freshman year and that was when everybody I feel like Did you ever have a Facebook? My freshman year I started one Okay And that was the year So if people that are watching don't know, before Instagram stories, people used to write on your Facebook wall to wish you a happy birthday. And every – oh, my God. I honestly bring it fucking back. I miss it so much. It was the most – and I was just like – I would open my computer, and I would click the little world symbol of all my notifications and see everybody that wrote on my wall.

27:33Also, my favorite thing to ever announce on Facebook was when I got into USC, and I said, USC class of 2022. and everybody commented. Yeah. Because I never got many likes on my profile picture change. Do you remember your first time ever having social media with your birthday? No, that was it. It was my freshman year of college and it was like, all of a sudden I got like 300 people. Maybe, I don't know, maybe that was that many, but like all my new college friends were like, happy birthday. I was just like, what is this? Like, how do they all know? And it's like, it was such a crazy feeling. Well, Facebook tells you when it's your birthday.

28:04And I miss it. And you know what else I miss about Facebook? Events. partyful god love ya it doesn't hit the same it really does not hit the same facebook events were such a thing for me like when i got invited to an event on facebook and i clicked going maybe or no like it really it's a dopamine rush not only that it was also just like so much cleaner than a partyful like a partyful is like a little confusing it's on my phone whereas facebook was like this is the event. This is the photo for said event. This is who's hosting the event. This is who's going. Whether you like it or not, we're going to tell you who's going.

28:42And these are the posts about the event. Does Partiful not show you who said yes until you do yours? Yeah, you can click it out. And yes, also yes. Yeah, that's annoying. Show me who's going. I want to see how am I supposed to know. God, I really do miss that about Facebook. But everything else I don't really care for. Facebook became like... Yeah, I honestly never used Facebook that much. I was, you had 300 people right on your wall. I was my space. Like, Whoa. Yeah. I was my space. So what was that like about? Oh, my space was awesome. What was it like? How did you celebrate birthdays on my space?

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29:16I don't remember that, but we had, you had a top 10. So you had to rank your top 10 friends and like you would move them around. It was, it was a lot. And then you always had a song, like whatever song was you, you put that on your profile. And like, sometimes people would find like this awesome hidden song and put it on and And they were like, oh, that kid's cool. So what was your song? Gosh, which one? I think I always liked like Afro beats. And I think I probably had like an Afro beat one. Oh, one of them was, I'll have to double check. Oh, do you remember this song called like Waving Flags by?

29:51By somebody with a K? Yeah, he's like a. Yes. I remember Waving Flag. It was like, yes, of course I remember Waving Flag. Yeah, that was one of mine, I think. But maybe it wasn't even that song It was like another song by him And I thought it was so cool Did you ever play like We as a kid? Yeah, I liked We Like Guitar Hero? What was your Guitar Hero song? Ooh, I only played I honestly sucked at Guitar Hero Were you good? No, of course not I was medium level Yeah, I was really bad But I played Maps a lot I don't even know what that is Maps They don't love you like I love you Wait Yes! Ooh!

30:30um yes i did i've the best one the best one i was at was beatles rock band i never had that rock band oh my god and it was i was the drummer like that i was like damn i'm actually good at something i could do like expert level right drumming the beatles did you ever play any like like world games online like pop trop oh my god oh okay you're older than me so no Moshi Monsters no Webkinz no Pop Tropica so what like Club Penguin ever are these computer games like whoa yeah no what were your computer games you would laugh at the ones we played like Oregon Trail where they all like died no they were like I wish I could look this up because this is it's a deep cut but there was one that you had a little icon it was called like who who who whovols or something who Weevil?

31:26I gotta look it up. Well, I'll follow up with this. But it was literally like a shitty little icon, and then you could go tap around the world. It was one of the worst games I've ever seen. But it was fun for you at the time? Yeah, because it was like computers. I saw like a mouse, and I was using my mouse and clicking around. Okay. You could do some bad stuff in the game. So question. Okay, so what year were you a freshman in high school? 2007, 2008? No, 2011 would have been my freshman year. Okay, so when you were at a party and people were playing music, how did they play music? Like, was it through an iPod or a phone?

32:04Yeah, probably, actually the iPod. Yeah, iPod or phone by then, I think. But like, I didn't have an iPhone back then. It was like, yeah, I had a random Samsung. Oh, you did? Yeah. Okay. It's come full circle. Okay.

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34:05So when did you start going to parties? Oh, okay. Wait, so should I answer my high school freshman year? What was your high school freshman year? My high school freshman year would have been 2006. What? Yeah, because I graduated 2010. Okay, so when you went to parties in high school, what did you listen to music on? iPods? God, I didn't get my first iPod, and it wasn't an iPod. It was a Rio, and it probably held like 300 songs, and that was probably my sophomore year of high school. Is that what you used to play music at parties? So was it just like the radio? iPods. Damn, you're aging me. Well, I'm just curious.

34:45Yeah, it probably would have been kind of like a computer. I think it would have been like a computer with a stereo set up. So who? You can't even hear that. Yeah, I don't know. Right? Yeah, that was a long time ago. Luckily, I... Yeah, I don't know. what was your favorite year of high school and what was your favorite year of college favorite year of of high school was definitely my senior year i didn't want it to end like it was incredible you didn't want high school to end no i loved it i like i'm still friends with all those friends i had like four periods of class and i pretty much like like i made the tennis team and i was like you know what like i don't want to play tennis i just want to like hang out with my friends and it was like the year that I finally like stopped playing I was still playing soccer but I was like I want to take this time to just like hang with my friends as much as possible so that year was special then we all went to college and stuff so so like what would you do every day that was so special and fun uh honestly just hang it like I my friends are awesome like my two closest friends are these crazy twins and and we would literally just like get into nature and do crazy things and like they were always dragging me along so we were always like road tripping to a random river to cliff jump or like we'd go to death valley just because we heard it was hot and like what yeah like so we were always either just at someone's house playing video games or like out on a road trip let me ask you you wanted to go to death valley because you heard it was hot yeah you get to death valley what do you do it was so hot oh we went on such a hot day so but what do you do like you just like that's what i always ask about nature so like you just look around okay i'm here so the first thing we did was we went to the thermometer that they have which is like shows you how hot it was and it was like the hottest day they've had in like three years it was like 120 or something so you look at the thermometer cool yeah so then we ended up we went to like the local place to like see what's around they said there was a water hole that you could go and jump into but you had to hike like two miles so we were all super nervous because we're like we don't know the trail we need our water on us and we ended up finding this water water hole jumped in uh then we had to drive out and there's a cool dune that we stopped by that we've all ran down the dune and are you like yay yeah i do remember though that uh the car was overheating because it was so hot uh yeah And this is like our first car.

37:25So no AC. No AC. But I was pissed that, no, we did have AC, but it wasn't working. A car was overheating. Some red light popped up. So I was pissed that I had to drive again. I was like, I don't want to drive. My friends were like, dude, it's your turn, blah, blah, blah. But you said drive again. Yeah, we took turns. Okay, got it. The other people are sleeping in the back. Got it. I'm driving, and the light turns on. So I was like, guys, we can't use the AC. so I put the child lock on the door so we were just baking in the car like no AC baking and they're all yelling at me but I was being a petty like I was like no we can't use AC I don't know it was like it was bad but we're all sweating in a car dying together that's the kind of wait I know so what was the point of the child lock just to torture them yeah to torture them because they're making me drive torturing yourself too it was my shirt was off I'm sweating in the front seat it was bad How does it feel to be able to take your shirt off and be like, I look good?

38:25How does that feel for you? Because when I take my shirt off, I'm like, ugh. Like I'm fidgeting with my boobs. I'm feeling up on myself. I'm like, ugh. I don't. I went to a watering hole, speaking of, the other day in Oregon. And I was like. See, you understand it. No, I don't. I was sitting there like. But I was fidgeting with my breasts. And I was with my friend who's ripped. And I was like, what does that feel like? Are you just like, yeah. I think I don't think about it that way I don't think like Oh I look good right now But I think about How good it feels Like I love being shirtless It's such a good feeling Like you feel the sun on you I'm no longer Constricted by my sleeves It's such a good feeling So I'm not really thinking About what I look like I'm more like As soon as I get the chance I'm like oh freedom And I just take it off I gotta get back to the gym Like Wow Can you imagine right like can you imagine just being like shirt off my life like yay sun on my body and i look good and i know you're thinking about that you look good don't play with it i'm not most of the times i'm like disheveled walking buoy but i'm still shirtless like enjoying life okay one day that will be me it will maybe without a dog but one because we can hold ourselves accountable just like the journal like did you work out today and we'll do the day obsessed i love that energy from you all right let's do it how much water do you drink a day so much i love these things i drink them all day really yeah it's like a little like you don't get bored of the water oh i know i put i put stuff in it like i do like uh bcaas or ecas oh that sounds like cancerous no it's good it's like it's like building blocks of protein so But it makes it taste good And then I can drink it all day Okay If it was water I'd get so sick of it That's what I'm saying Yeah So you ever have like an Ultima?

40:25Yeah those are good The hydration packs? Yeah Yeah those are good And you put that in the whole thing? Yeah I'll put it in the whole thing Just one packet for that whole thing? I'd probably mix it with some BCAAs Okay BCAAs I'll send you the link Got it Got it Okay do you want to get into the tummy what's wrong? Oh wait you didn't say favorite year so going back to favorite year of high school and favorite year of college what was your peak of both of those? Okay well you didn't tell me your favorite year of college. No I haven't. My favorite year was again the last one. Okay so my favorite year of high school was either when it ended or probably my sophomore year I had a lot of fun my sophomore year it's when I started drinking for the first time This is when I started smoking weed.

41:14Like, I was like, I am that girl. I got my braces off. Like, I was like. You smoked weed your sophomore year of high school? Yes, I got my first fake ID. Like. Whoa, in high school you got a fake ID? Yes, I was 15. Did it work? Yeah, it worked at this one place around the, I don't want to like dox the place. Other people are still going there, but it was a Japanese restaurant. And one time, that summer going into, I want to say it was my junior year. So I just started drinking that year. My parents were like, okay, like we're kind of chill with it. I went to this place and I got three Long Island iced teas.

41:50And I got super drunk and broke my wrist. What? You started early. Right? I was doing all that stuff in college. I thought I started late. No, I was doing that stuff in college. Oh, wow. Like I was still afraid my fake ID wouldn't work in college. Well, you got to make sure it scans. It did scan. Of course. But I never tried it like at bars. Like I was like, I had like a CVS that I went to to get all the alcohol for the dorm and stuff like that. But I wouldn't. You used your ID at CVS? Yeah. Okay. So no, that's bold. CVS is like strict about IDs. We would have certain places we would go and pick up our stuff and they would know.

42:24But it like was never that serious. And like I used my fake ID mostly to like, because restaurants in New York. Okay. So the nicer you go, the less they care about how old you are because they want to make you feel comfortable is what I was always told. So if I ever saved up enough money and we went out to a nice restaurant, they would be super chill about it. But then like, I don't know. I've only got my ID taken like twice. Only twice? So you had three of them? I had one, two, four. I had four IDs. Holy shit. Well, I had two sets of them, but four. Yes. And I remember, when did I, I would use it mostly to buy, like, in high school, I eventually just started using it to buy, like, jewel pots.

43:07Because that was, like, back in the day when, like, jewels were really, like, new and awesome. Did you have to be 18 to buy them? Yes. But that's when they had mint and mango. And, like, I know because you're, like, super in shape and healthy that you never got down like that with them. But, like, they were really important to the culture and to me personally. And, like, they looked like a hard drive. and like back in the day, like teachers didn't used to catch on. They had no idea. So like you could run to the bathroom at school and just jewel. And like literally there was nothing to tell anybody that you were doing it.

43:36Honestly, maybe senior year was my favorite year of high school because that was so fun. I'd be like, I want to jewel. And I would go to the bathroom and jewel. And I'd be like, but I'm also in high school. Like, you know what I mean? How often are you running to the bathroom? All the time. I have, I would practice like, okay. I'm like not judging myself because I was 17, 18 at the time, but I would practice like my, my, my vape ghost hits. Yeah. And so like, you don't, you have to hold it, hold it. You breathe it out a little and then you breathe it in. And so I would go to the bathroom and like practice it.

44:07And I have so many videos on my phone of me doing that. And there was the bathroom downstairs in the basement of my high school had like the best air circulation. So like, that's where we get the best hits. And like one time I dropped my jewel on the ground and a teacher picked it up for me and was like, here you go. Because they had no idea. Wow. And I was like, you know. When I was in high school, jewels weren't a thing yet. It was just cigarettes? No, weed. But people would try to get away with smoking weed indoors, and they would always get caught. Well, that feels just unlikely to work. Yeah, it was.

44:38Okay, so my favorite year of college, freshman year. Really? It was, the first half was miserable, and the second half was just. I could see that. I went out, I used to go out. I feel like I've said this a million times Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday sometimes Sunday and it was just the most fun I've ever had in my life yeah and then honestly senior year was really fun too but I think I maybe had an alcohol problem then because I was blacking out all the time I saw I didn't have a senior year I graduated college in three but my third year was my senior year and that that was awesome because it was again I had like no classes I was like to like I needed to go to school so I had like maybe two real classes a quarter and then I did bull riding welding bowling hold on I did like fun stuff bull riding?

45:30yeah I was in the rodeo it was so like yeah it was so fun do you have videos? I have one it was shot on like a potato phone but it's sick it was like someone from the audience got it I had like a a five second ride on like a steer and you fall. Yeah, I fall. And I, I won the first day. So I thought I got the belt buckle, but then someone beat me the second day. But like, where'd you go to college again? Cal Poly slow. Okay. I did not know that was an elective offered. It was probably only at my college. A few others. I think maybe I enjoyed actually my senior year the most because I was working at the time.

46:08So I had money to spend and like, I never had money like that to spend before. So like I could go out to dinners. I could like treat myself to like, I could buy drinks that I wouldn't like. I used to like bamboozle my friends to buy me drinks at a bar because I wouldn't have enough money to do so. And I could finally like buy my own drinks at the bar. Like I could like pay for like stuff. Like it was nice. Like I had my own money. Here's a question because I've noticed some of the younger generation doesn't like it wasn't a big deal for them to get their license. Was that you? Like did you get your license earlier or were you just like, I don't need it?

46:43did you not get your license? Oh my God. I do not understand you. Like I literally, like you're talking about best moments. The day I got my license was like freedom. I don't know how to drive. You do not have a license now. Get out of here. You Uber everywhere. Out of here. Three to four times a day. No way. Yes. And I know the drivers by name. They always come, hey, hey. I do not understand you. Like, I can't. I'm going to. Are you. Can you teach me how to drive? Yeah, absolutely. I'll get a stick shift for you. No, I don't. So you can't text and drive. So what car do you have now? I have a Toyota, a 4Runner.

47:28Okay. Is that stick shift? It's not. So can I learn how to drive in your Toyota? Yeah, it would actually be pretty easy. It's got like auto steering. Okay, so where do we start driving? We could do it right now. Don't play with me. I also have my big I have my big sprinter van With me right now Wait where would Where would you Like where would We like Would we have to go to a parking lot Or what would we do Is this really Truly like your first time driving I drove around a parking lot Once Oh my god We gotta Let's like make a day of this Should we actually Yeah And we can like Train you up Like two sessions And then take you to the DMV And see what happens Okay I'm game I'm so down for this Are you really Yeah Are you around 12th August Yeah Okay me too Well I'm dancing with the stars We'll do it during that.

48:10We didn't even talk about DWTS.

48:20Sometimes I speak and I want to kill myself. We've had too much to catch up with. We have. This has been so lovely. And by the way, it's not ending anytime soon, so don't get too comfortable leaving. So tell me about Dancing with the Stars. How excited are you? Are you a dancer by nature? what's the vibe I am so not a dancer by nature I've I've never performed and I've never danced in public like maybe dance in public at like a bar being goofy I've never like danced at a bar being yeah like I love dancing but it takes a lot for me to do it like I've I to be honest I can't imagine you dancing yeah it's true it's true like I I can do it at a wedding and when I'm like lit or something I'm like I stop caring what people think about me like that's I love that feeling I wish I could do it more.

49:07So like when this opportunity came, I'm like, maybe like, maybe this will make me dance more, which would make me happier. Like I, that's what I'm excited to take out of this is like, I love learning new things. I'm going to love learning dancing, but I've never, never learned. I'm so excited for you. I can't wait to see it. I think, I think we'll see. I'm excited. I have no idea how my rhythm is. I have no idea. When do you start practicing? like soon like probably I think it's getting announced on well today yeah today and uh yeah so soon like two weeks two weeks yeah okay and so did it take convincing for you to do this or were you just like yeah let's do it yes I did have to get convinced I was I had a dinner with the casting department and they told me about it and it was the way they spoke about this show was really it was like it's like their baby and they like really love this show they say that it's like i don't know you could sell it when you see someone that's passionate about something it makes you want to be involved and like everyone that's been on the show says it's the one of those memories they'll cherish their whole life so it's like they did a really damn good job of selling it to me wasn't gabby on it yeah and did you talk to her about it i i want to talk to her more but i when we're in traders i was talking to her about it because all through like like three of the girls on the cast all were dancing with stars like Chrishell did it um yeah Nikki did it okay so but you were saying like you you don't like it takes you a while to dance because you don't like what people like you are conscious of what people think of you yeah and do you have anxiety uh no I just I think it's because my whole life like Zach's been famous I never wanted to like mess up his career and stuff like that so I think that's something that like I've been hyper aware of how I present myself and stuff like that from a young age so then right right I think maybe that's part of it and then also it's like I love learning sports but I've never learned dance so like if you've never learned tennis you're not going to go play tennis with a bunch of people so that's kind of how I've always thought about dance it's like I don't I don't know how to dance I don't want to jump into something I don't know how to do really.

51:29Does that make sense? But you are. I am. But hopefully I'll learn. I'm so excited for you. I am too. I feel like you'll make it far. We can hope. So you ready again to the Tell Me What's Wrongs? Let's do it. You guys submitted these Tell Me What's Wrongs, and they are Bumble themed and sponsored by Bumble. They are all about dating life. So thank you, Bumble, for sponsoring these Tell Me What's Wrongs. my long distance boyfriend who I low-key didn't like dumped me two weeks ago and I haven't cried at all good for you I downloaded bumble the next day I went on a date last night and it was the best date I've ever been on in my life am I the worst person ever for not feeling sad about the breakup at all I'm feeling totally fine with moving on ASAP not at all good for her right she was in a relationship I feel like it's fine yeah she broke up didn't feel didn't feel anything when she broke up.

52:18That's a good sign you didn't really like the relationship. When's the last time you cried? Ooh.

52:27I've been on a little good stretch. Probably a month or so. Okay, so I like cried for the first time recently. Like real, like, well, I wasn't like sobbing, but I was like, like crying, like when my friends left. But the last time I like sobbed, cried uncontrollable. Guess how long? A year? 2019 you wow you like saved the date yeah because i remember oh yeah it's outside outside of macaroni republic what happened i have a bunch of different macaronis um basically this guy i had a crush on was he was with someone else and i was really fucked up like beyond words fucked up and i was just like sobbing yeah and then i was like oh that felt good and i haven't done it since it does feel incredible right you cried a month ago i don't know now i think about it i yes you know i know i i've been pretty happy this year it's been a good year what's your star sign i'm a february of aquarius okay so you're part of your yeah aquarius is like the best sign by far i love okay it is why do you say that because you're one yeah well they don't like you i swear like everyone's like oh you're a sagittarius or a pisces you gotta be careful it's like i get Pisces energy from you.

53:44Really? Well, I'm a Pisces moon. And I literally feel so vindicated right now, but continue. Yeah, I'm an Aquarius. But like every time you're in Aquarius, it's like, oh, you're like super independent. You're very intellectual. It's like all these like good things. It's like, oh, you're loyal. It's like, I swear all Aquarius stuff is positive. Yeah, I've never really met an Aquarius. I'm like, have you ever been in a long distance relationship? Speaking back to this girl's question. Yeah. You have? Yeah. Oh, was she, so she was in a long distance. And she hated him. Yeah, she did. Long distance is very tough.

54:18So how do you make long distance work when you were, because you're still with the person that you were in long distance with. Yeah, so the best part of a long distance relationship is when you do see each other, it's like you can, like, it's like a date night. Like if you, let's say you're living with someone, you might not have a date night for months because it's like you're living with them and it's like so casual and normal. You see them every day. when you're in a long-term relationship or long distance, you see them once a month. So it's like that month you're like, all right, we're going to the farmer's market.

54:46We're going to go hike. We're going to go out to dinner. You are the outdoors. Like I can't. What about, yeah, we'll watch TV. We'll lay in bed and scroll. You got two nights. You got to make it up. Like you got to make the most of it. And I like for how hard a long distance relationship is, it's like there's some awesome parts of it. Okay, let me ask you something. If you couldn't do these outdoor activities with not shirtless, like you had to wear a shirt, would you enjoy them as much? No, absolutely not. Exactly. Exactly. That's the best part of being outdoors is if you're in a remote hike, no one's going to be judging you.

55:30You have your shirt off, no one will think twice about it. You're going to see six people. I love how you think about that. I judge me. So this guy and I had a four month long Situationship we just ended things and this is the Most a breakup has ever hurt me even though we never Dated how do I get over him have you ever had a Situationship is that a situation Ship or a or a They were in a relationship and they broke up In a situation ship for four months Okay they were in a situation ship Like they were never like we're dating Yeah so it's not even if it's a situation ship It sounds like they were emotionally Involved so then Yeah it's totally normal to feel like shit after a four-month situationship.

56:10Okay, have you ever broken up with someone before? Yeah. Have you ever been broken up with, like, situationship or whatever? No, I think I... It was probably mutual or it was me. But yeah, like, it sucks. That's a low point when you're newly single. Like, I feel for that person. Have you ever ghosted someone? No, I don't think I would do that. Okay. I'm 23 and I've never had a boyfriend. I feel like that's a red flag and I'm not sure what to do. I'm talking to this guy and it's getting a little serious and I'm scared. I'm just a walking red flag. If I don't have as much experience as him. Oh, that's cute.

56:45I know. I don't think that's a red flag at all. It's a green flag. I've never had a boyfriend and everybody who watches this knows that because I talk about it every episode, but you're not alone. Okay. You've just been in like a year long situation. Not even that. I think I have attachment problems. Yeah. I was talking to this with my agent the other day. I think some people have issues being vulnerable with new people. I can't be vulnerable at all with anyone. I can be vulnerable online because I can post it and put my phone down. Yeah. No, it's very tough. I think when you really get to know someone, that's the best part of a relationship is they understand you.

57:29You can be full of yourself, but that's so hard to find in your middle age. The most vulnerable I can be is when I'm speaking about how anxious I am. What's your sign? Want to guess? Leo? No. Why you guess Leo? I don't know. It's a 1 in 12 chance. Are you Pisces? No. My best friends are Pisces. Okay, let me actually try to guess. Okay, you have one more guess. Okay. I feel like you don't get more than three. Let's go with...

58:10Aries Scorpio Gemini rising, Gemini moon I wish I knew what all that meant What's your rising? You know you're a Pisces moon I'm a Pisces moon How do you know the rising? Time, same as moon I thought that had to do with the moon So I'm What? All I know is Aquarius and Pisces You gotta figure out what your rising is I would guess that you're like a Pisces rising too It could be. Or like a Libra rising. Don't you get so Libra vibes from him? I was a C-section baby though. Does that matter? No. No? Why would that matter with your... That's a really good question. Yeah. Oh, I'm so sorry. I'm such a bitch.

58:50Because it is like... Yeah, it's like I got to choose my rising. Oh. Right? I'm so sorry for my initial dismay. I was really I was really Just confused as to how it would change it You know what a c-section is, right? No, I know what a c-section is You were a c-section baby? I was Do you know, like, what's the vibe of that? My mom has a scar from me Did she ever, like, talk about it? No, I think it was pretty chill Okay Yeah, but Yeah, I don't have any of the stories I got stuck halfway out or anything I went down the birth canal And then I swam back up So my mom was in labor with me for 48 hours.

59:32Yes. I mean, like, is that just not so telling? That's like, I'm like, I don't want to do it. I've been single for so long that heartbreak songs literally leave my mind blank. Like my lore has fucking expired. I'm sick. Help. I mean, I've also been single forever. And the only thing that I find to be helpful is getting on a dating app like Bumble. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's great. What music are you listening to right now? I still do. Like, Burner Boy is probably my favorite. I'm all over the place. Like, I like Harry Styles and that style. A lot of rap and, like, UK rap. Then I also just love, like, guitar and country.

1:00:18Like, acoustic, good vocals. Like, I love all that stuff. I like country, but only when a girl sings it. It depends on the girl. You listen to Megan Maroney? No. Gotta get into Megan Morley. I bet you it's one of those ones where I know her songs, but I don't listen. Tennessee Orange? I know Tennessee Whiskey. That's Chris Stapleton. Well, yeah. Well, I didn't know that, actually. I don't know why I said well, yes. Well, Dylan, what did we learn today? We learned that you don't have a license, which is probably the most atrocious thing in the world. I knew you were going to say that, by the way.

1:00:47And by the way, I knew you were going to say that. But it's great, because now we have something to do. Do you actually want to teach me how to do it? I actually do. Don't mess around. And we'll record it so people can see this, because it's going to be ridiculous. Wait, I'm actually down. I'm here all of August just like you were because I remember you said that you were. Yep. Well, I learned that. What did I learn? You love nature. I do. A lot. But I guess I already knew that. Well, Dylan, thanks for coming on. Thank you so much for having me. Love you. Love you. Okay. Wait, wait, wait. Do you want to give a little bye, pussies?

1:01:19Yeah. Which camera? All right. Tell me when. Go. Bye, pussies.

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