Session 96: Julia Fox

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0:40surprise pussies happy friday today we have on one of my inspirations honestly julia fox she is actually the reason i am sitting here talking to you guys right now if you don't know a few years ago, Julia Fox was like replying to comments and like acting out what people asked her to do. And I was like, oh, that's so funny. I'm going to do that. And that changed everything for me. And that is why I have this podcast. That's why I'm doing what I do. That's why I'm able to talk to you guys. And I essentially owe it all to her. And she acts, she models, she's a personality, she's an author. She literally does everything.

1:18To be able to talk to someone who's lived such an insanely interesting life is just so awesome. I got to hear about everything. It made me, I hadn't yet read her book and I recently just bought it because of this. It's called Down the Drain. Louise says it's her favorite book of all time. It is like actually incredible. I'm about to start it. I'm so excited. She also stars in the new movie Him. So that's today. It's actually out today. I saw a little bit of her in it. She's unbelievable. And I just love her. To submit a tell me what's wrong go to pass that puss.com click tell me what's wrong and leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy.

1:54Okay enjoy the episode. Love you pussies.

2:00Hi pussies. Welcome back to Therapist. Tonight we have on author actress fashion icon it girl always Julia Fox. Oh I love that intro. Thank you I was thinking about it in the shower. i could tell i love it um welcome thank you for having me thanks for being here i know you are i don't know if i've told you this before but you are the reason why i have a show at all you're joking i swear because you used to do this thing where you would respond to people's comments and you would like act out whatever they told you to act out oh my god yeah and that's like how i got my start because you did that i was like oh that's so clever i'm gonna do that now Oh my gosh.

2:42The show. I know. I feel like I used to have so much fun on TikTok. And now I'm like, I don't know. What happened? And like my ADHD. Yeah. Like I just, when I like, I lose interest, I'm like done. I'm gone forever. And I'm like trying to go back. And it's just like, I don't know. Like it's not like novel anymore or something. Like you think it like makes you anxious or you're just like bored? Like just no desire. Right. You know, like occasionally I'll like do a little post. But like, I don't know. I feel like I've just really been living like IRL recently. Like I went on a full three week vacation.

3:16Like no one would even know. There is no photographic evidence of it. Like I'm just living. And do you like that? I don't know. I feel very like Kourtney Kardashian. I'm like, I get what she was saying now. Like I understand. I'm so addicted to my phone. I feel like I can never do that. More power to you. I wish I could get back there, But I don't know. It's just, you know, you go through like phases and seasons in life. And I feel like I'm in a season of just like kind of like figuring out what is important to me and like what is just for me and not for anyone else. Or like, you know what I mean?

4:00A hundred percent. What do you feel like? Do you feel like being because you've been in the public eye, I feel like a lot longer than people know. like to varying degrees right yeah but it's like it keeps growing and growing and growing and growing and growing at what point do you think you felt like oh shit wait maybe i need to take there was a moment where i was like oh wait i'm like actually famous like i didn't i thought i don't know i just kind of thought it was like like it was just like a funny prank yeah i was like oh it's real you know like it's it's hard to even like show up authentically if everything you say is going to get like picked apart and stuff and it's like at the end of the day if you really try hard enough you can have a problem with anything that someone says right you know what i mean yes so it's hard because i you know i am just very blunt and i just say what's on my mind and and i really don't mean any harm but unfortunately there are people that'll just like find something wrong in what you said and then it's like then you're questioning yourself like oh my god wait Like, am I like a bad person?

5:05And then, and then moving forward, you find yourself questioning everything you say. Cause you're like, oh wait, wait, wait. They could clip that and that could be bad or like, you know, so it just kind of takes the fun out of it entirely. And then you're like, okay, well now you guys don't get to have me anymore. Right. Exactly. Do you feel like that changed entirely? Maybe with Tik TOK? I feel like that back in the day you could kind of not even back in the day, but like five years ago, you could say whatever the fuck you want it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it felt like there was only like a certain like niche community on TikTok.

5:37And, you know, as all the all social media landscape has changed, you know, like I miss like the early days of Instagram, like that was where I shined. Like, right. Yes. Like I was an OG like shit poster and like funny captions like before other people were doing it. And and now it's like it just feels like a chore and a job and like a LinkedIn thing. You know what I mean? It doesn't feel like fun anymore. And also it's like, who are all these people? Like, I'll be scrolling on my page. I don't know any of you. And I miss just like being, you know, like just in your little circle. And I also really, really miss the what was the page called where you could see what other people were liking?

6:22Oh, the following page. Like, why did they get rid of that? That was electric. That was like, that caused me so much like unwellness, but also like I needed to see all like every, you know what I mean? I'd be like, what is my boyfriend liking? Who is he? Like, it was just like great. Did you ever catch one of your boyfriends? Yes. Really? Yes. No. Yes. Like you were like, blah, blah, blah, liked blah, blah, blah. And you, would you like send a screenshot and be like, I will like, what the fuck? I don't even know if phones screenshotted back then, did they? Yeah. They did. They did. They did. They must have.

6:53No, yeah, it definitely got like super turned up for sure. You grew up in New York, right? So did I. But you were raised in Italy until you were six, right? Yeah, but like not really though. Like I was in America for a couple of years before that too as a toddler. But from like three to six, I was like in Italy only. Sometimes I feel like Italian food is better in New York than it is in Italy. I completely disagree. I know and I think I'm wrong. Yeah. I think I'm wrong. I will say it's different. It's just different. It's still really, really good. And there are some Italian restaurants where I would say it's comparable.

7:36But ultimately, it's about the minerals in the soil of Italy. Italy sits on volcanic ground. So it's full of minerals and nutrients. And it's just like that flavor. you can't get that here in america no way like we have farmed the shit out of our land there are no minerals and nutrients left you have to go back in the end and and put them in you know right before you send it like it's just not giving that and i can i can taste that like i can taste the difference between an italian tomato american tomato for sure the mozzarella like can't even i mean the pizza just like no um because the the grain is different um gelato that's not the same maybe i take back my seat yeah because i hated tomatoes until i went to italy yeah but what i will say is that italy does not have the most booming restaurant culture like when i have a right whenever i go out to eat at a restaurant italy like 50 of the time i'm left a little bit like But that's because we have a really big eating at home at people's houses culture.

8:49And that is where the bangers are. Got it. So the restaurants are very much for more tourists. Like there will be more tourists at a restaurant than there are actual Italian people. Because Italian people at 6, 5 p.m., they are at home. They are getting ready to eat with their families. Like 99.9 % of them. so that is definitely it because i've never had like an actual home-cooked italian meal in italy see yeah like that and i'm telling you like i the all the aunties in italy like they would just come out with these creations and it was like like really like michelin star quality and just you know they didn't bat an eyelash it was just totally normal were you uh did were you from like the northern or southern i'm from the north okay god i've been to um like in a northern area that's like um uh Milan and stuff yes Milan Como yes the mountains Venice is in the north um and it's you know it's different like I personally prefer like the vibes of the south because they're more similar to like a New York vibe but it is you know beautiful nonetheless and you know I I feel very fortunate to have roots there I feel like it is definitely one of the things that kept me like level-headed kept me grounded is that I had that kind of like cultural tie I knew right and wrong you know like all those things that were implemented in me as a child and something to you know just have it have it as a reference do you feel like sometimes growing up in New York like you can lose track of that yeah one thousand percent also because it's like Italy's very homogenous you know like you your neighbor like you're all gonna be doing the same shit you know have the same value same morals you know in in new york it's really a free-for-all everyone's house has different rules you know it's it's it's it's hard to like form an identity because you're being pulled in so many directions and then that kind of becomes your identity so i feel like i'm just a very um like i'm very mutable like i can adjust really quickly i'm you know anywhere you put me I can like find something in common with somebody I've had that luxury and that privilege of being raised around so many cultures and really appreciating all of them but you know when I was in Italy I didn't know any of that like I didn't have Chinese food and like pretty late in life you know because I only wanted Italian food and that's all I was raised around so you know I'm I'm very I'm happy that I have both did you did you enjoy growing up in New York?

11:27Yeah. I definitely enjoyed some things about it. Others, I don't know. Now in hindsight, I'm like, yeah, I enjoyed it. But while I was doing it, I fucking hated it. Me too. I was miserable. I was miserable. I used to Google homes in Hawaii and high schools in Hawaii because I would I'm still a huge fantasizer. I would just daydream all day long and I would just daydream about moving to Hawaii and like living on a horse farm. I don't even know if they have horse farms there. I might have just like made that up. And that, you know, I just wanted to get out for some reason. I wanted to escape. I wanted to be, I had this calling to like be in nature and kind of live a really simple life.

12:13And I still to this day do that. Like I will fantasize like probably like once or twice a week, like no exaggeration. Like today's the day. I'm going to fire everyone. I'm going to quit. and I'm going to like buy an Airbnb in the middle of nowhere and like just have a little bed and breakfast, have my farm animals like make yogurt and just live that life. You owning a bed and breakfast would be sick. Right? That would be so sick. I kind of see that in the cards for me. Also because like I feel like owners of bed and breakfast like interact with all the guests. Yes, exactly. So they'll like go down and talk with everyone.

12:47I feel like you would love that. I feel like for an additional$75, you can get my chickens, eggs, and my goats milk. You should maybe do it as like a bit and see how it fares. Right. That's the thing. I'm like, but because I do that, like I really romanticize the hell out of things and then I get there and I'm like, oh, OK. Right. Yeah. So I'd have to try it first. What is something you like romanticized and you got there and you were like, never mind.

13:17Marriage? Men? Yeah. I don't know. I did like go to Louisiana and then like decide to live there. And I did like love that. And I had romanticized that in my head. And I did end up like, no, but then there was definitely a point like three months in where I was like, wait, wait, what the hell am I doing here? Wait, when did you live in Louisiana? 2015 to 2016. Wow. I had no idea. Yeah, I lived on the bayou. Just because or? Yeah, pretty much. I just like me and my bestie R.I.P. she passed away I'm so sorry but I like picked her up in the middle of the night and no I literally called her and I was like I forgot what I said but I was like do you trust me and she was like no and I was like come on do you trust me and she was like yeah and I was like okay you have to come with me and she was like where and I was like don't ask questions we're just going and I picked her up in the middle of the night in like a broken down ass car that then eventually like just completely stopped working in the middle of Tennessee on a rainy stormy night um and I just took her with me on this adventure and we ended up in Louisiana and and we had some friends there we had these two friends there and then we just like got a house and a car and like ended up staying there and like lived this weird it was just like a weird side quest and then eventually we both came to and we're like never mind yeah yeah like okay let's go home that is yeah amazing I like wish I had that say I could have that same attitude how old were you at the time 25 okay that's how old I am now and were you just in your era of you're like I'll do whatever you know for such a long time I had so many responsibilities abilities and then there came a point where I'd kind of lost everything and I was like I'm free you know like at first I was scared and I was like oh my god you know like how am I going to support myself and whatever but then at the same time I was like wait like I can just go you know and I got this urge and I just left and then I ended up doing that for the next couple of years like I would literally wake up and be like okay I'm leaving and I always had cars because I'd find men to buy me cars all the time.

15:37I've gone through like 20 cars. Um, and I would just go and travel all over America. And cause for a long time I really was, you know, a European girl and I lived thinking it was New York, LA and like sometimes Miami. And that was it. I didn't realize that this country is so vast and really, really beautiful. So many like national parks. And like I said, I've always been really drawn to nature and wanting to feel just the simplicity of it and the like the solitude. But in a nice solitude. Right. You know, especially when you grew up in New York, it's really claustrophobic. Beyond. And you don't even realize it at the time.

16:18You don't realize it. But the buildings, they're literally like closing in on you. Like you never see a sunset because the buildings are always blocking it. And, you know, you're never really alone. Ever. you know which is like a blessing and a curse yes exactly like i feel like i i feel very safe in new york that's i never understood i remember i used to live in the suburbs and when i was moving to new york everyone was like oh my i'm so scared for you and i was like wait and i was like 10 so i was like wait why but then when i think about it it's like i was taking the subway at like age 11 12 alone same and like crazy like i've had like weird encounters but i was never like legitimately ultimately scared.

16:58One time this guy came up to me and was like, I'm going to kill you. And I was like, I was 12 or I was 13. And I was like, and I was just standing there and he kept saying, I am going to kill you. I'm going to kill you. And I feel like anywhere else I'd be alone on the street and I'd be terrified that I would, but I was like, but did anyone else like say anything or step in to know that's the thing about New York? Just like mind their own business. Where do you go to high school in New York I actually went to like six or seven different high schools so I went to Washington Irving okay which was like you know metal detectors and like yeah um and then I went to then I moved to Italy right and I went to two different schools there with the nuns then I came back and went to a Catholic school a Catholic school in Midtown but only for like two weeks because I wanted to wear pants and they were like, no, you need to wear a skirt.

17:53And I was like, deuces. And then I went to a school called Eastside Community High School. And then I graduated from City As. Okay. So it was like all the time. Like I just didn't give a shit. I didn't care. You were never like a school person? No, no, no, no, no, not at all. Like it was very an oppressive environment for me. I dreaded it did you have any idea like what you wanted to do when you grew up or no yeah just like fuck it yeah yeah like you know what it's like I was so just like surviving the day that like I didn't even think about it but weirdly I kind of knew that I'd figure it out you know like I wasn't really that worried about the long term I was more worried about the short term that's like the new york mindset yeah yeah right like just making it to tomorrow right was like way more of a like issue do you have like a favorite year that you spent in new york um i definitely like the like the uh early 2000s like 2007 2008 2006 like those years were so so fun what were they like it was just like the clubs were really popping and it was you know we had cell phones we had sidekicks we had razors but like we didn't really have social media like we had my space but you had to be at home to use it and same with facebook so we were really just you know all the dopamine hits that people get online we were getting them out on the street like we just wanted to be out we wanted to be talking to people we wanted to we wanted attention um you know now we can get attention just by never leaving our bedroom and posting online but back then you really have to like go outside to make a name of yourself of yourself and i did that you know like everyone knew who i was in new york even the police like it was everyone knew julia fox and then i'd be like i don't know why why does her need to know me but i was like such an attention whore and i was always wiling out and i was always like fighting or like just getting on top of a car like you know just doing crazy stuff like all the time so you know that era was the best yeah it was and you didn't have that fear of like someone's gonna like you know video me and right i'm gonna like you know whatever it's gonna follow me forever like that was just not even a thing a thought in the mind so you just really felt like i could do anything right now that's what i was about to ask like do you think that killed party culture a little bit yeah Yeah, it's definitely not the same.

20:35Like I go to parties now and I'm, also it's just not as fun because everyone's coming up to me for a photo or like whatever. But like even when I do go incognito, it's just not really giving. You know what I mean? It's a lot of people like on their phones and like it's, you're not as present as like we were. Like we were very present, very in the moment, very just like, you know who's here who's here like right you know just like whatever like looking for the next like dopamine hit whereas now you just don't really need it or you can people can videotape you out and yeah and you're always thinking about that you must be right yeah well I also have this thing where it's like I feel like I have to be nice to everyone because then it'll be like I am a Julia Fox and she was a fucking bitch and blah blah you know and it's like oh so it's just like then I go out and you know and it's fine it's nice I mean you know what I had this thought today and I was like thinking about Marilyn Monroe and I was like she's the most famous woman in the world and she died alone in a bed like with pills and alcohol and it's like people act like you're famous you're so lucky but it's like if the most famous woman in the world was like that miserable is like fame really all that great and I wish that people could think in a more like nuanced way where fame really yeah it's great it has a lot of very superficial perks but ultimately it does like isolate you from your peers you know like even if you see famous people out in the wild it's like head down like you know and like imagine if they just weren't famous and it's like a person with their head down like you know you'd be like oh you know poor thing right you know what I'm saying it's like you just feel like a little disconnected from the rest of everyone and I feel like a lot of famous people are miserable myself included do you think you were happier before fame like no no that's the thing it's like I've always been depressed and miserable so it's like whatever but I do sympathize with some others for sure yeah because I was watching Love Island beyond the villa and they're all like I missed my life before and I was and I was like I get that like I can see why you know yeah I get that just you're just living on a smaller scale and not really worry too much about people liking you or how you're being perceived and it just feels like a much more authentic existence you know and more real more made up of like real things like that things that actually have meaning you know your childhood friends the love of your family a career you're passionate about um you know opposed to like doing spawn con and like going to like influencer parties which is like you know i mean so i feel like also like with the love island people like they i mean they were taken to like another level last year that was like the because usa wasn't big until last year no idea like they went on this show like it's fine no one's gonna watch it yeah and then everyone watched it do you watch love island i do oh yeah what do you think of this season it i mean it wasn't giving last season let me tell you but it still gave something but I just I was missing a little bit the vibe you know what it was giving it was giving that the people this season saw the impact of last season and were like I want that too opposed to like genuinely wanting to find love and connection and and they think we're a little bit more aware of the cameras yeah it was giving a little more like polished prim that's why Huda I think resonated so much even though she was so diabolical at least she was real she was real for better or for worse you know we've all crashed out like that yeah of course like are you kidding like i've crashed out so bad when like literally the other night like i like over somebody yeah just like i thought my friend was mad at me and it's like even that you're just like like why the fuck are you mad like you know you're drunk and you're defensive and like do you take that without and you're without your phone and your cameras are on you and you're like without your kid and you're On no sleep.

24:44On no sleep. Yeah. I heard like when I found out they weren't letting them sleep, I was like. Wait, what? Yeah, they don't let the Love Island people sleep. What do you mean? Like they'd be going to bed with the sun coming out and be like waking up like two hours later. What? Yeah, they all were talking about the not sleeping. And I was like, this is why they need to unionize. Right. Like SAG would never. Never. Like they need to figure it out over there in the reality sector because this is like, it feels inhumane. These are real people. weren't you for a second didn't someone i saw wasn't there a rumor online that you were gonna join roni yes there was and ultimately i felt like i would ruin the show dude i think you would have no no you're wrong no you're wrong tell me why because roni okay so there's three formulas there's the oh my god I wish I could be them oh my god thank god I'm not them and oh my god I'm them and Roni is I wish I could be them because they're rich and they're extravagant and they're out of touch and they're also oh my god thank god I'm not them there's like a mixture of both and I just feel like the even though I loved all the girls on the the reboot it was a little too relatable you know like I want my crazy Sonia's and Countess Luann's and my Jill Zarens and just like I want that and I'm not that you know like it just and and also it would ruin the show for me I love watching the show and I wouldn't want to watch myself on the show that sounds whack like you know I want I just it's such it's such a like I love that show so much like truly like grew up watching it like I I just I'd rather preserve like what it was once was you know and I would love if they could go back to the original formula which worked really well um I definitely slid in Andy's DMs like please get them back on you know he must know at this point that they're so wanted back I mean I I told him he read it he left me on read he knows for sure but i don't know if they're going to i i know did you like watch uh roni in real time living in new york yeah was it just like this is the best thing of all time yeah like it was it was really like oh my god i can't believe like you can't make this shit up you know it was better than any like any show ever you know all the like the i mean when aviva took her leg off like it was just like there's just so many of those moments when louis-ann fell in the bush when dorinda was like i made it nice like there's just so many great like one-liner one-liners that came out of that show they're just like amazing iconic moments that are just like seared onto my brain and like i just don't think that i could like give that like nobody can give that you but you could give some one-liners but it wouldn't be that like do you think you'd ever do reality maybe maybe I don't know but maybe yeah yeah if you like woke up like exactly like literally if I woke up one day and I was like all right fine like I'll do it but I you know I do like think reality tv it can be a little toxic for the people that are on it because it's not like a movie where there's like a differentiation I am playing a character I am not this person and even then actors get shit when they play horrible people but you know with with reality people forget that these aren't like just characters on a show these are like real people and a lot of this is you know produced and a lot of it is like made up like you know what I mean it's not like scripted but there are suggestions and there are you know like they set up what's going to happen and then you kind of just like riff yeah so I mean I just don't know if like that's really like the road I want to go down the hill I want to die on rather yeah do you watch any other housewife shows um I love Beverly Hills um I I used to love Atlanta I haven't got like I don't know after Nini left I was just kind of like okay well there goes that um but but I'd pick it back up because they they brought Phaedra back I heard that yeah I love Phaedra so I would pick that back up again.

29:08Potomac's really good. You watch Salt Lake? Yes. That's my favorite. That's the best one. That's the best one? It's the best one. I'm like, I can't believe I didn't say that one first. Obviously, that's the best one. Okay, thoughts on Bronwyn? Babe. You like? I love. I don't like. I love because I think she's like a mastermind. Yeah. And I want to know what she was arrested for. Wait, she was arrested in san francisco when like two years ago is that like was that it's on the internet it wasn't in last season no no it came out after the season ended they they might speak about it this season i don't i feel bad even like mentioning it because like bronwyn you're my girl i love you but i need to know the tea i was arrested too girl it's fine we're like it happens to the best of us totally fine um but i like i just need the tea oh i'm curious yeah i and also what is it about salt lake that like attracts all these like criminal mastermind women i don't know but that to me is like such good television yeah like i'm like sat every you know what else is really good the mormon wives have you watched that no because i'm so loyal to my salt lake girls but it's like i feel like there's a crossover there yeah i know but i feel like i'm gonna be comparing everything to salt lake it's very different okay it's very different like these girls are Mormons like capital M and like that is a big part of oh like they're like yeah yeah they're like intense yeah and they're like talking shit about people for breaking Mormon rules a little bit yeah yeah I'm into that yeah they're they have that for sure and but the gag is they're all breaking them right yeah like they're wild that's what I feel like they're more wild than like me and my friends you know like they're more wild than like in what way like just like oh but the thing is they don't drink what yeah they don't drink but but they still crash out like all the time which is kind of like weird but yeah i don't know it's like you just have to watch it and let me know okay maybe i'll maybe i'll give it a because i'm re-watching scandal have you ever seen scandal no i know it's so good i know it's good no no no i i from what i can understand about you what I know about you is that you will fall headfirst into the show okay do you want to know what show you should start watching the hunting wives is it that good everyone's talking about it it's so good what is so good about it someone from scandals in it so basically it's the premise is like a liberal woman from like Boston who used to do like political PR had some sort of accident and had to leave and then her husband got this job in texas so they all moved to texas and it's her like acclimating to these very like texan wives and it's just it's really just interesting the the dichotomy between the two because she thinks like i'm liberal and i'm empowered but really her husband like puts her down all the time and he doesn't let her drive and he doesn't let her drink and like whereas these republican women are are like they they put up the facade that they're so amazing god-fearing women but really they're like getting drunk and doing body shots and like fucking each other but it's all behind closed doors and very hush hush so it is very interesting i love that but i i you just have to watch it i don't want to get no it is amazing it is you sold me i haven't been sold everyone's like you have to watch it not sold not sold that it's good it's good and there's a murder oh okay that makes it good but If I watch, you need to watch Scandal.

32:45Okay, I will. I will. Aren't there like nine freaking seasons? And you can like, but really the best season is season two. That's when it exploded like culturally. Okay, okay. And you'll see why. Okay. What's your favorite show of all time? Desperate Housewives. Me too. Well, not my favorite, but I love that show. Yeah, it's such a good show. I love that show. What's your other favorite show? Or like your first favorite show? I love, Desperate Housewives was the first show I ever watched in full and finished. Yes. So like I remember Susan's last lap around Wisteria Lane. Like I remember, right?

33:15after he passed away. I forgot about that. Yeah. I remember my favorite season though was season two with the people in the basement. Do you remember that neighbor that had the people in the basement? Yeah, that was like that shit could never be aired today. Ever. Like the shit they were doing was so, like it would never get approved today. It didn't, remember? Although, I don't know, maybe it could now. Didn't like Bree's son, like remember she like drove him somewhere and dropped him off? Yeah, she just like ditched him on the side of the highway. She's like, you're not my son anymore. Yeah, because didn't he like fuck her boyfriend or something yeah like yep he did my favorite shows of all time are girls on each girls yes the best it just it really finds you when you need it and this show do you like thrillers i do okay would you watch you you definitely like a foreign show with subtitles

34:03i mean i don't know it's really good okay shoot what it's called dark okay on netflix All you need to know is a little German boy goes missing in this little German town. And it becomes so mind fucky in ways that like you would never anticipate the show would go to. And this is your favorite show ever. I've seen it twice through. So I've seen six seasons of a German show in German because you can't watch it dubbed. There's no point. I know. The dubbing is so bad. And it doesn't match. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't match. It's weird. It is. one of the most it's it's brilliant okay i'll watch it it's genuinely a brilliant brilliant show wow like you they like they would have had to like sit down at a board like connect so many dots to make that plot do they ever figure out like where this boy went or oh yes oh and it is not where you think really it is not where you think it wasn't the parents like i can't even begin to describe to you wow oh my god oh my god i wish i could watch that show for the first time again wow i was sitting when did it come out i think it ended in 2020 it must have come out in like 2017 but i remember sitting during and how many seasons five three three trilogy of seasons 10 episodes each okay and the end is so rewarding i also just finished a show called mr robot oh i've heard that that's amazing really good but watch dark first okay okay i'm gonna watch it yeah

35:38AI's legitimately fucked Yeah AI's like I don't use chat TVT I still hold back Really? I hold back It scares the shit out of me Okay I use it You do? I do It scares me I do But like I don't know if I use it Like how other people use it Right Like all like Like my son had a staph infection And I It's helpful in that way Took a picture of it And I put it in And I said what is this rash and it said staph infection and then i was like okay we're going to the doctor so like i only use it like what's really life or death right yeah i'm not using it like plan my day for me or like you know stuff like write my essay no no no no no no yeah kids are literally not going to learn i know it's the craziest thing and everyone's telling me like no ai's it's like what google was 20 years ago and i'm like no it is not google 20 years ago was the pits like literally it was like you'd be on page 16 still looking for your answer like it was not at all what like it is today no yeah you cannot compare the two bugs me out it may be it might be revolutionary in the same way sort of but it's totally different have you ever been in a self-driving car no neither have i that you do they does new york have waymos i don't think so that's what if you see a car i've seen them here yeah they would they spin around yeah yeah yeah i've seen it i've seen it here no New York is like, we're a little stuck in our way.

37:01New York doesn't really love change that much. It's not like California where the tech advancements are just all the time. New York is a little more archaic. It's also an older city. It's a little more scholarly, studious. I know. Sometimes I really miss it. Do you really, though? Yeah, I do sometimes. like what what do you miss about it i miss um not being at the mercy of a car and like because i don't drive i don't know how to drive okay because i grew up in new york and my parents are like jewish like neurotic and like they're like you can't drive you can't drive you can't drive and i'm like okay because then my dad's like how do you get around here i uber everywhere i know that's like a lot it's a lot and you know i mean i've made it my own thing you know like i'm very grateful that i can afford to do it yeah and i'm also grateful that i've become friends with all of them so we're like you know all the local ubers literally all of them but we're all friends they pick me up hey jake yeah like you know we like text we like you know i'm like we can book out of the app if you want they're like there's something yeah that's like okay like sometimes they're like yeah and then sometimes i'm not ready for that bro yeah yeah but um yeah i miss not being at the mercy of the car i'm things in la like close so early I love to go out.

38:27Yeah. And they close at 2 a.m. here. A lot of calls at 2 a.m., which is insane. I know. Insane. But that's why I feel like the house party is here. Or, like, you cannot. Like, it's not the same. Like, New York, by, like, 11.30, they've called the cops. Like, here, you can, like, rage till, like, 8, 9 in the morning. But it's not. But still, someone next door is going to call the cops if it's too loud. Right, right. Whereas a nightclub in New York, it's loud. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm, oh, and I, some, part of me misses apartment parties. Really? I don't know. I thought they were the coolest thing in the world when I was in high school.

39:00yeah, in high school, like, it was just so very intimate. Yeah. Yeah. And you felt, like, so cool if you were invited. Yeah. Like, you know, but I do, I do. My two best friends literally moved out today back to New York. Really? Yeah, it was so depressing. They literally just moved out. And that always happens, though. Like, I feel like all the people, all of my friends I grew up with all live here, and then like all my like LA friends like like all the friends I have now in New York are from LA you know what I mean like they just flip-flop all the time like just in in search for happiness I mean the dating scene here is also just abysmal but is it worse than New York New York I when I go to New York I have like dates lined up and it's like really yes here it is wow talk about the fucking pits this is the bad place but i feel like here is the place you come to like get married and get a dog and have kids yeah if you're like straight yeah right i'm sure right it's great for them i get that but i still like do love it here though i love that life more than because it's like here you can just kind of like exist totally a little bubble and like move around in your bubble whereas like New York it's just harder like everything is harder you know like even grocery shopping is harder because I need to walk back with all the heavy ass bags like here it's like just throw them in your trunk you know like little things like that it adds up for sure like I feel like the quality of life might be a little bit better here yeah yeah yeah it is it is it is you're right you're right it is I I think maybe I don't know I think I'm I think i romanticize places i'm not at anymore yeah because like growing up in new york i was fucking miserable like those january to march like so hard darkest days of my life all new yorkers have like vitamin d deficiency like we're all like clinically depressed it's it's a lot yeah and then it's like the summer is like too hot to even be outside it's like literally tropical it was reclassified as like a tropical zone yeah when like this year i'm pretty sure because it's so fucking humid it's gotten to that level where it's like crazy it's like puerto rico in there it's like hot hot i mean i haven't been there but i heard it's bad yeah it's rough it's really rough and then do you do you remember like when you used to take the train when like you'd get on a car and the ac's broken and the ac's broken and the doors closed well i just stand in the middle i'd stand in the middle of the two cars to catch a breeze oh you would like outside of the train yeah like you know the spot connecting yeah i would just go and stand there and i was so scared of doing really no i loved me and my friends would do that we'd like smoke joints in there and like yeah we were crazy we'd like run on the tracks and subway surf and like be so crazy on the train what do you mean subway surf like climb on it on the top yeah like from that little nook you can climb up to the top and you're not scared you weren't you were just like babe our frontal lobe was very much undeveloped like we did not give a shit oh my god that's yeah insane it's fun it sounds really fun yeah wow um you've never done the thing when you're speeding in a car and then you climb out one window climb the top and go back in on the other side never that's really fun wait is it like yeah and is it like the adrenaline like is it an adrenaline thing for sure yeah it's a like oh my god there's a high chance i might die you know oh my god the best feeling ever what's the craziest thing like that like you've ever done um i have this boyfriend and he loved like climbing bridges and stuff and one time we did it together and we climbed the the I think it was the Williamsburg Bridge and we like climbed up to the top what yeah it was actually really romantic were you like I mean he's gross but like yeah it was cool I like was scared but I was never gonna show him that I was scared I was like you know I got this what's your star sign Aquarius okay I feel like I don't know much about Aquarius I'm a Scorpio really you don't have a lot of Aquarius friends I feel like I'm like always like this with Scorpios my friends are like Pisces Leo Virgo interesting Pisces Leo Virgo okay interesting and I have one best friend that's a Capricorn okay and that's like that's about it right right I like I get right I go I get on really well with Pisces women really yeah Pisces women are like my favorite people in the world Well, that makes sense.

43:44Pisces and Scorpio, both very, like, emotional and, like, yeah. What's your rising and moon? My rising is Cancer, and my moon is Taurus. I love Taurus. My mom's a Taurus. Yeah. I feel like that's my, like, grounded energy. Right. Where I like to be at home. I like to have nice things. Like, I like good food. You want to open up a bed and breakfast. Yeah, exactly. like very very like tourist and then my cancer i think is like my creativity and uh my more like nostalgic emotional like motherly nurturing side and then my aquarius side is just like like where all the crazy stuff comes in i feel like aquarius is like a party yeah yeah well we're just very like future thinkers big picture like I don't really harp on like little stuff I like really look at the bigger picture of like what it all means and like you know I feel like I have a pretty good graph I'm a good problem solver and I'm I can be very like rational like like to the point where sometimes I'm like feelings are irrelevant like let's look at the facts here you know and so I always say like facts before feelings and a lot of people don't like that But I find comfort in like the truth.

45:09Like do you think people on the internet do feelings before facts these days? I feel like it's all about. Yeah. How it made me feel and offended me and blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Because that's like, you know, the mind. That's like, it's crazy. It's crazy. Do you want to get into the tell me what's wrongs? Okay. Yeah. These are where the pussies write in and they tell us what's wrong and we give them advice. Okay. Okay. I feel like you're going to be. I love it. Nothing short of excellent at this. I love it. actually I was just thinking about like how like so like all the time people come up to me and like ask me for advice and then I'm like all right here we go and I just like give them the like advice and I'm like what if I just like derailed their whole entire lives and they're like that Julia Fox she told me to quit my job and follow my dreams and now I'm broke and homeless like I don't know but I'm gonna do my best my husband has had horrible breath lately right as I was about to bring it up he told me I have bad breath which I don't what do I do what a master gaslighter yeah also how did he read her mind he did um i would just say like divorce yeah okay that's a huge deal breaker for me like yeah bad breath and stinky feet oh well you literally right before we sat down you put a like a minty tab in oh no those were no i put my I fell asleep in the makeup chair today.

46:31And when I woke up, there was like, like eyeliner on my contacts. And I literally drove here like blinded. So I had to, you know, handle that really quickly. My ex broke up with me on the phone while I was at work. It was completely out of the blue. I thought he was my forever person. And we had planned to try a long distance. He spent a week with his mom and then dumped me. Did she convince him? What do I do now? Wow. Honestly, you dodged a bullet, babe. it's giving weird incestuous emotional incest over there like if he's like if he's gonna let his mom get to his head now he's gonna do that for the rest of your life have you ever dated someone like that no no and also like uh i love like grown-ups like i always got along with grown-ups so like everyone's parents always loved me until like the breakup and then they were like yeah What's the craziest thing you've done in a breakup?

47:27Oh my God. That you can say. I mean, definitely there are some things I actually can't say, but I will say the fun stuff. I remember I was so mad at one of my exes, so I climbed through his fire escape and damaged little things around the house. Like, like, you know, like the old, like iPhone charger, how it was like long and the wires would always poke out. I like pulled out those wires so that when he would go charge his phone at night, it like wouldn't charge. I threw away his favorite pants. I dumped out all his beers and put the empty cans back in the fridge. Like just like diabolical stuff.

48:10Like stuff that like is little, but it adds up. Right. You know, and then you're. You'll lose your mind. Exactly. Yeah. Like you might even kill yourself. Yeah, exactly. That's awesome. Every time my friend talks about her new boyfriend, she says he's literally just like my dad. And I don't know how to tell her. That's not the win she thinks it is. I feel like we need to know a little bit more about her dad. Because also like a lot of women go for men that remind them of their dad. You know what I mean? Like it's and boys do the same with with women. You know, they look for the model image of, you know, what that looks like.

48:47And it's usually the mom. But, you know, it's I think it's healthy to a degree, you know, like like everything else. I yeah, I think we just need to know like more about her dad to really give an answer about that. Just because this is reminding me when you said you used to get guys to buy you cars. How did that just like for how did that work? Like, how did you get them to buy you cars? I would like send them links of the car I wanted. They would just buy you the car. Yeah. where'd you find them um so like toward as i got older the cars got shittier obviously yeah um but like you know in the beginning it was the dealership and then toward the end it was like hey i found this on craigslist no but where did you find these guys oh just you know new york going out worried about a lot of them would just like slide in my dm or like want to person like the moment i knew i'd hooked one it was like all right let's go like game time like let's see what I can't and a lot of them just want to show off you know like like yeah I can do this for you you know it's like it they like it just as much as I like receiving it it's not like because they're like gold digger gold digger it's like no no they they get such a thrill from doing it too like they'd love to be like the guy that just like bought a car for a girl you know like it's like it's an eco boost for them too so that's why I always tell them and like just ask like ask because the worst they can do is say no yeah because a lot of these guys it's like you know it's it's gift giving out of ego out of like you know you know it's whatever it's not like the selfless act of you know what i mean it's not giving that at all what's like the craziest thing you've gotten so a guy to like buy you i mean i've definitely gotten a lot of really you know most of it is like you know cars clothing i never got like a house out of a guy which is like was like always kind of the goal but now i've let it go it's fine like i can do that for myself it's okay um but probably probably like birkins yeah i've gotten like three guys to get me birkins so that's a fucking win it is that's a way like it is that is a win yeah oh congratulations yeah and it's a good investment i would recommend that you try to get guys to get them for you because it's so it's something like i remember when when i like lost everything and whatever like I could sell one of my Birkins and that held me over for like six months.

51:13So it's like, it's just a good place to like park some money and it'll appreciate in value. And like a lot of other bags. So it's a great, great investment. I've been single for 27 years. I am 27. Wow. Winning. I've lived through all my friends relationships and I'm starting to feel like I'll never find love. What do I do? Again, like it's, it's hard cause it's like, I don't know this girl. It's like a part or God, is it a girl or a guy? do we even know yeah I mean I would say like you're on a winning streak and just ride it out you know but I do understand like wanting yeah and and you just have to put yourself out there you know it's so hard I get it I get like I'm so glad that I like already have a child and like I don't have to like worry about meeting a man so I can like have a child anymore because it was just like so hard like these men out here are such trash the bar is so low but I would try um men from other countries yeah there's some good ones out there in other countries I think the issue with dating today is like we're so we because when you see people get like judged online so intensely like you're obviously going to internalize it and be like well so I'm gonna get like you know you judge yourself just as hard it does that make sense like if you see like people get because i feel like we live in this culture where you absorb that only like absorb that lens right like only in the 2000s it was like the main people that got made fun of were like celebrities real real celebrities everybody everyone everybody so how could you not internalize that and be like oh i'd make fun of me if i saw me someone i think you just have to like let that go yeah yeah and like realize that like it's gonna happen like i promise you jake shane like one day you're going to do something and they're going to turn on you and then you know what no babe but i'm telling you then it happened and you're like liberated of that fear and then you can just go and be yourself because it's like everyone bounces back if you're like an actual good person like you bounce right you know what i mean but like it's gonna happen like someone's gonna be ticked off it'll probably won't be big but like it'll happen like you're gonna piss somebody off and they're gonna go online and make a super self-righteous video about it and they're gonna use big words and sounds really intelligent and all the idiots are going to be like you know and and eat it up because you're going to be super successful and they're going to want to tear you down the same way they built you up but once it happens it's so liberating because you don't have that looming fear anymore like what is it gonna happen what is it gonna happen it's like ripping the band-aid off and then you're like you're free like it happened and you lived and you survived and not only that you bounce back so you know in your mind that you can do that again if it ever you know what i mean it's like you you did it you survived it if when the do you remember like the first time someone got mad at you online and yes did it what did it feel like there was like this mascara trend where the mascara meant penis wait what some guy was like a girl i lent my girl i lent this girl my mascara and she lent it to someone else and i wrote under like oh boohoo or something like whatever and and apparently the mascara was code word for penis understood understood so it's always it's gonna happen even when you actually didn't do anything wrong or like it was a mistake or a slip up or it was innocent people are still gonna find a problem so it's like you know at a certain point you just have to let it go you have to surrender who gives a shit what anybody thinks about you did you used to like be so scared of it until i was so scared of it happening because i would always see other people going through it and then once it happened i was like oh like okay like i lived any like i lived like i you know i went on with my day turned like just didn't go on tiktok for the day you know and then it's over like exactly so it's like you just move on you know to hear that yeah i think about it it consumes me i would say also stop thinking about it because you like low-key manifest your fears oh i know yeah yeah oh god but it's fine like it happens and you survive and now i wear a shirt that says canceled twice oh that's awesome and i love it and i have another shirt that says like canceled adjacent and i love it i feel like such a baddie in it oh yeah i feel like it's like a badge of honor yeah it's like yeah i went through that shit right came out stronger you're not gonna break me at this point though it's like the people canceling these people are like i mean yeah Yeah.

55:43Yeah. It's like gnarly. Yeah. Like the shit that they do. It is. It feels like a weird dictatorship where we like oppress each other. It feels like the Salem witch trials. It's like everyone's like you. And it's always a woman. Always. Always. Or like a person of color or a queer person. You know. It's crazy. It's insane. It's like. Yeah. Men do not. I don't think. Not in the same way. I don't think I've ever seen. I mean I have but it's. For like horrendous things. way yeah it's not in the same way yeah right i'm in a group chat where everyone roasts their exes and talk a bunch of shit about mine but they don't know that we just got back together that's why like you really as much as like i want to say like you know talk to your friends about your relationship it's like it's hard because then like on both ends like someone once told me like never get involved in someone's relationship because my mom says they get back together and then you're the bad guy and it's really fucking awkward and i've made that mistake so many times um and also as the friend you're like so tired of hearing about it and you're like offering solution and then they get back together and you're like the fuck you know what i mean it's like both both sides right it's better to just stay out of it and like you know yeah just take the ls like let them know it's fine right yeah well julia what did we learn today a lot of tv shows though we did yeah watching tv is so fun it's the best thing in the entire world i think i learned that um like maybe i'm more resilient than i think i am yeah from your advice that you gave me yeah but yeah no i think i think we humans are like and like we've literally made it here against all odds like we're here like humans are so resilient like way more than we give ourselves we're literally built to heal like we get a cut and immediately our body starts healing and like you just don't underestimate how powerful and strong you are oh i'm gonna take that with me also finally before i let you go you are in the new movie him yes amazing executive produced by jordan peele yeah i actually went to my high school you're joking i swear he was like the first celebrity I ever met.