Session 97: Glen Powell Returns

27:58I will, but I will help you with that. Wait, so how, can you talk about the bats? Yes. We didn't get to see the bats last month. We didn't get to see the bats. I'm still, can I just tell you what I'm a little confused by? What I remember is that you, Austin, has a mosquito problem. Yes. And so back in the day, they, I actually, you know what? I'm not understanding this story. You know what's going to be, is this going to be sort of like the urban legend I told last time on your podcast? Oh, about the girl. I don't know if it's totally true, but here we're going to go again. let's saddle up i'm not sure i was like i was like no this is a true story i was like what you're like hey you just want to fact check is that true and i'm like totally true i knew that was like everyone was seeing that when my straight male friends called me and they were like you were on my twitter today and i said really it's me like totally buying into a story that i had it's so funny by the way i saw your sister at my show and she was like no that's true that is true i was told that the whole family that's the funniest part is we've been telling that story for literally years as it's fact and we could like my little sister like when I when you asked me you're like hey is that is that a true story and I was like let me just ask my little sister double check but I'm like I'm almost positive she's like no no that's a true story it happened to my like pledge sister I was like okay great and then all of a sudden just everybody checks you on it and they're like that is not true and I was like so this mosquito story may or may not be true but this is what i believe happened okay so there's there's mosquitoes in in texas and they wanted to help with the mosquito problem so they brought in a lot of bats to like help take down this mosquito problem and so now we have a ton of bats which is not a bad thing it means you have fewer bugs but now there's two million bats under the congress bridge and so like every night around 7 30 in the fall the bats come out so the sky kind of goes black And it's just like people gather on the bridge, grab drinks, they're on the bridge and just like watch the bats fly out.

29:54You know what? As I'm hearing this story, I am confused on how they would transport two million bats to get rid of the mosquitoes. It's happening again. You know what I mean? It's happening again. Because yesterday I was told that I was like, oh, period. Like, good for Austin. Like, they really figured that out. But now I'm like, how did they transport that many bats? Look, I am not into bat transport logistics. Right, okay. There's got to be a bat guy. I mean, think about, like, if you transport anything. Have you ever been, like, on the side of the road and you see, like, those, like, reptile farms?

30:26You know what? No. No, they don't have that? What? What? You ever seen those? Yeah, you, like, go on the side of the road. It's, like, reptiles. You can go and see, like, alligators and snakes and stuff. You've never seen this. Have this in Los Angeles? Maybe not LA. It's probably, like, more of a Texas, Louisiana thing. If you and I take a road trip. Don't play with me. We'll go to one of these reptile farms on the side of the road. It's like you can literally see just like rednecks that just have like reptiles hanging out in their house. It's like the weirdest thing. You actually want to go on a road trip?

30:56Yeah, we should go on a road trip. I would love that. You got to wear the hat. I would literally dress up in whatever. That sounded way worse when it came out of my mouth. But yeah, I'm not really sure about bat logistics. I mean, I'm not sure how you would transport bats, but there's got to be a guy. Right. There's a guy for everything. There must be. And where'd your siblings go? Did they all go to UT as well? My, my oldest sister Lauren went to A &M, which is Texas A &M. So that's like college station. That's a fun school. And then my little sister Leslie went to UT. All my cousins went to UT.

31:30My, my grandparents met at UT. Oh, so you're like from a UT love story. Yeah. Everybody like game days have always just been the, the thing that brings my family together. No one misses it every Saturday. So what am I about to experience at this game day? Well, in about an hour, a bunch of my friends are going to come over. We're going to pregame here. The college pregame's good, so I'm going to teach you the Texas Fight song. What's one of them?

32:00This is when we score. This is when we score. Texas Fight. Texas Fight. Let's put over one more win. Texas fight, Texas fight Force Texas that we love best Give him hell, give him hell Make him eat shit You're gonna end up So I'm gonna be honest, that's like a whole verse No, no, no, you're gonna be fine We'll get there, but that is Give him hell, give him hell You can say, I think, what's the original lyric? Go horns go Go horns go But when you're, like, if you're a future-ing sin You say make him eat shit Okay So how much of Chad Powers was based off of your college experience? Well, I mean, a lot of it came from my love of college football.

32:47Right. Like, I always, like, felt like when you go to, like, a football game in the South, like, people, like, you're going to experience, it's, like, way more fun than an NFL game because, like, people are just going buck wild. You're going to be, it's a night game. So people are, like, they tailgate all day, and they're just, like, really passionate. It's, like, the best. So, like, when I was a kid, Texas won the national championship. when I was a sophomore in high school. And I like went down on the UT campus and we like danced on top of cars. They lit the tower up like orange. It was just like one of those that you're like, it's the most fun.

33:21So I was trying to go, how can I take all that fun of college football and put it in a show? And so when Eli and Peyton were like, hey, what would you do with this? I, you know, my buddy Michael Waldron and I just like came up with this idea that was kind of like Mrs. Doubtfire in the world of college football. How could I forget the best part of the pitch? When you see Russ Holiday in the show sees the open tryouts for the Georgia team, he looks up because he's transporting the prosthetics for his dad, looks up and sees a Mrs. Doubtfire poster. We just had to hang a lantern on exactly what we were doing.

33:54That was like the whole thing. It's like you just said, okay, let's just call it out. We're doing Mrs. Doubtfire in college football. Was it one of your most fulfilling and fun projects to ever film? it's just like you know look my job is just to entertain people like I think a lot of people get like in their head about like it being trying to be cool or whatever it is like awardsy like for me like I try to make what I would watch and this is a show that I would totally watch it's like it's like it's fun it's heartfelt it's cinematic it's got like you know we we spent a lot of time making sure the football was real that the comedy was actually funny like nobody on the show was like phoning it in and it was really fun because we all had a blast but I find myself I find that I'm happiest on a set when I'm surrounded by smart people who are just like don't take themselves too seriously right and it was just a fun time the best like the greatest greatest cast great writer's room just were you in the writer's room yeah what's a writer's room like a writer's room is basically a group of people so Michael Waldron and I came up with the show uh and we took Eli's concept and we like you were like okay here's what we think we would do we sort of outline generally where we want the show to go like where it stops where it ends and the you kind of you kind of just outline like what you because you write all these characters and the writer's room kind of gets together and says okay like what is the most exciting version of all this and so it's basically just a lot of smart people funny people I'm in I'm in the writer's room right now and it's like it's just the fun if best group of people that everybody's there to like put their heads together it's like a fun team sport like that's what I love about this business at its best it's like you have fun people who are talented and they get in a room and you try to just make the best thing you possibly can but like our writers room was like like top of the top we had like everybody wanted to be a part of the show it's cool wow wait so we were talking last night though weren't we talking about this last night in the car like when we were like when when we see a show or a movie it's like what's the why yeah what do you think Chad Powers is why is I think the why I mean one of the things that I I'm not going to say who it was but there was I was at a party and I I you know showed up to the party and there was somebody that had basically been on the ropes in terms of sort of getting canceled right and there's like you know it's kind of a big public it was one of those Hollywood parties where it's like there are cameras and press and all that stuff and this person had made a lot of some of my favorite movies and i was like oh like this is this is great like and he came up and he said nice to meet you such i was like oh dude a big fan and then a photographer said like hey can we take a picture of the two of you guys and this person was recently canceled and like it was it was like as of late not good i was a fan of their work but not a fan of their their choices right uh so i was just kind of being nice but then when you you're they're want to take a picture with you i realized very quickly how like i was like oh i don't know this is a good idea he clearly clocked that i was like this is probably not a good idea and i realized i was like this guy his face is toxic you know like going out into the world like people are having a visceral reaction to this person in terms of the the bad choices they've made right and um you know the the character that i play in chad it's like russ holiday is a guy that just made a mistake right he's not a bad guy some of these other people that get canceled they should they should lie where they're they're they're shot but but where where but but like with russ he made a mistake he acted you know poorly about it and and and the world kind of didn't forgive him and he couldn't forgive himself and what i found to be really interesting is that in today's day and age Like there's a lot of like the cancel culture is just sort of a thing and like how how the world doesn't really let you forget your mistakes.

37:47You know, we talk about with phones, you know, with TikTok and Instagram. It's like so many people make mistakes and the Internet doesn't let you forget. Right. And I found it to be interesting how people react to those moments. You know what they double down on. Do they take accountability in those moments? Do they they, you know, believe in conspiracy theories? Do they blame other people? do they do all this other stuff and I found that like just having a character that's like learning to say I'm sorry learning to say like I wish I would have done it differently all those things is like a really um beautiful thing because especially when you do go through those moments like I think we've probably all gone through life where we just want to have a different face like we don't like ourselves we don't like want to do that and I feel like the fresh start it sort of like creates an underdog story which is just the blank slate of somebody who goes hey I made a bunch of mistakes and I just want to do it better this time and this guy Chad Powers kind of offers him a second chance to do the thing he loves you know yeah and it's also really really funny yeah it's great was there ever a scene that you like couldn't get through without laughing there's a scene there's a scene that shower scene that you you uh you were talking about where I basically am talking Russ Holiday says like he he he pretends like he's really good at improv he's like I don't need to like worry about backstory of like creating this character Chad Powers because like i got it and so he the coach asked him why he's not showering with his teammates and chad is basically makes up he's he's at you know um you know my my my you know my pee hole it's it's big it's just far too big and if water gets up there you know i could fall ill it's just like so it's like it just like makes up this like pee hole lie uh off the check off the bat and like it was the funniest scene because like I don't think I was like Steve Zahn is like who plays the coach right you know coach Hudson who's like brilliant he's one of my he's one of the funniest people on the planet his reactions were like killing me and also I don't think I was expecting to see in his coverage like behind him there's like a bunch of naked guys that are actually in the shower right so I was like talking about pee holes and there's like a bunch of naked guys yeah Steve Zahn it was just like a lot it was it was too much right it was too much at the same time but the show is like I'm really proud of the show.

40:04I think it's like I've showed it to a variety of different people. I like when I'm making something I like to show people all across the board to just get a sense of like how it's being received and who it's being received by. And it's basically like 100%. Everybody loves it. It's amazing. Thank you. And congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. Can we talk about Running Man? Yes. I visited you on the set of Running Man in London and you taught me how to do stunts. Yes. The one thing that so Jake came to visit me on Running Man. And I was in the middle of learning some stunt choreography where I get basically hit by these like goons.

40:39And I was very impressed by your ability. Were you really? I really was. I was like, dude, you, what did we do it for? Three minutes? Yeah, something like that. Three minutes and you picked up the whole like, the whole choreography. Yeah, it was amazing. And I've never, there's like a scene on a plane and like they're, they literally built an entire plane to shoot the whole thing on. On like a gimbal so they could like make it drop and spin and all that stuff. That was scary when you would sit like Video Village or not Video Village but like the people like hair and makeup and whatever would sit towards the back of the plane to like run in after the shot and like the whole thing would shake and drop.

41:16I felt like I was on a roller coaster. People were like puking. It was like in theory it was great but the thing is once it goes up on the gimbal you're sort of removed so people can't like get on and off the plane. Yeah, I couldn't get off. So everybody's like stuck on the plane while it's doing all these things so i'm doing a fight scene in like a moving airplane that's dropping out of the sky and rolling and all this stuff and so yeah everybody was getting sick that it was not it was like i was in there for three weeks in this fight you weren't no you weren't the plane took three weeks three weeks that was a lot yeah are you excited for people to see running man it's so good it's really good yeah so i mean we're locking that in the next couple days but we've been you know there's they do this thing called testing where where they like put it up in front of like random audiences in like New Jersey or Vegas, whatever.

42:00And just like across the board, people are loving it. That's amazing. Yeah, yeah. I feel like you didn't have a single break in the past year. Did you have any moments to like chill? I think that's been like the weird part about this latest thing is like I'm having a great time. Like I'm like, I'm getting to make great stuff with great people and the cast are like been awesome. It is like a wild pace. Right. Like it's a, I don't think, I mean, you know how it is. It's like whenever like there's like kind of momentum and stuff, stuff. You're like, I want to keep it going. Yeah, well, you work your ass off like your whole life, you know.

42:35Like I've been doing this since I was 10 years old. You know, Spy Kids was like, like, you know, I did Music Man. We drove by where I did my first play when I was like 10 years old. I did Music Man there and like I wanted to act like every day since then. And so it's really hard to get people to put you in stuff, you know. it's really hard to like get that, uh, to be able to stand on your two feet or feel like you're actually going to be able to make this your living. So like all of a sudden you get there and like when things start working and all of a sudden you're able to do this, it's really hard to kind of like, you know, find, find the happy medium.

43:08I'm doing it now where I can like find the personal life, like work life balance. But it's like to be like, I think I didn't really expect it to be the lead of a movie is an everyday thing. Cause you're working on a script, you're, you're like running man. Right. You're doing, you're in the script with the director. You're boarding things. You're working with the stunt people. You're sort of like ensuring the movie along with everybody else. So it doesn't really allow a lot of time for like your own stuff. So your life does. That's why I bring like my family and friends on set. I feel like the past year has been like crazy for you even since we last spoke on this show.

43:47Like everything took off that summer in like ways that it hadn't before. and you became so much more visual as well to like the rest like and not visible sorry visible to the rest of the world like what were you expecting that or you know what's you know what's really weird is it kind of is i after that summer right so like it was like the summer of like you know hitman and twisters and all that stuff and i i did that press tour and then i went back to work right so I went and shot Chad Powers and then I went I actually I did an A24 movie Chad Powers Running Man and then this J.J. Abrams movie all back to back so I really haven't been out in the real world in a weird way like I know that sounds crazy but like yeah like even just like us walking around Austin some of this still throws me a bit because it really hasn't changed my life because I'm on set like you're you're around oh it's like a very sets a very normalizing place got it right and you were also in London for so long yeah you shot in London which is a different culture than America yeah I mean obviously but like you know like um I think like the fandom culture is like way more prevalent here yeah and so like walking out and so is this like really your first kind of time experiencing like what how everything has changed has actually affected your day-to-day Yeah, I think this is like the first time where I'm kind of like, these last few weeks have actually been really interesting.

45:16Because I haven't been out in front of it. Even like us at dinner all together last night. Right. I'm still trying to figure out the rules of like how to like protect the people at your table, like your friendships, like your family. You're like, how do you be a human where you're like, because it's so cool when people come up. And it's like so nice when people are like fans and they watch your stuff and all that. like I still am like oh wow I remember the first time anyone saw anything and I couldn't believe it you know like the first time that ever happened it was like I think it was expendables or something like that and so when some someone comes up you're like whoa this is this really cool I think it's just hard because if you I'm developing kind of rules around the experience to try to like just make it like I'm just trying to be able to do it in a healthy way which is not not like it's easier said than done right you know I mean and what's a healthy way for you like when we were at dinner I was like I would if somebody comes up at dinner I'll say like hey where are you sitting and and they'll point it out and then I'll say okay I'll take a picture with you do you mind when we do it on the way out when I'm like walking out and you did remember the table you remembered and you go there afterwards and you take a picture but if you do it while you're sitting down it's sort of everybody will see that you're sort of open for business got it and then we can't hang out and have a good time so that's my that's my sort of new rule at dinner is I'll say I'll find you and I mean it Like I will, I will go find your table afterwards.

46:41I'll go take a picture. But like, if I don't, if I like, if we do it there, then the, then the sort of like night's over. Hey guys, as you know, I've been working with Bumble these past few weeks. And recently I asked you to help revamp my profile. So first things first, I finally got verified on Bumble. So people knew it was me, but now I'm going to go through my profile and tell you guys what I'm changing. Okay. So these are my pictures. um the first one is of me in blue pants and a white t-shirt and everyone said that I should get rid of that and I kind of agree I think I'm going to switch to a more recent photo one of the tips mumble gives is to lead with a clear solo photo but obviously it's important to add friends in as well my bio is rating and reviewing octopus around the world and being miserable at all times of the day I actually think I'm going to keep the rating reviewing octopus around the world because that is still true to me today.

47:35And I think I'm going to take out the miserable part. Even though I am miserable, I just don't think it's aided in my love search. A few people did write in and tell me that that would scare people off. And I do agree. About me, 5 '3", active, undergraduate degree, wants kids, Scorpio, etc. Great. My interest, dancing, making videos, gym, concerts, sleeping well. Pretty true to me today. You guys agree. I think I'm going to keep it. Second photo, I think I'm going to change it to a photo with me and my friends. Maybe a photo of me and my friends on tour. I think that shows my more recent life.

48:10My personal hell is not smoking until 6 p.m. As you guys all reminded me, I no longer smoke anymore. So that has to change. I'm going to change it to a different prompt. God, this is me and my friend Tom. I don't know. I don't know if I want to change it, but I don't want to put two friend photos in a row. So maybe I'll move it down. My mental health game changer was Big Pharma. Still true. and you guys all thought that was quite funny so I'm going to keep that. Also another tip from Bumble is to keep your answers meaningful and I think medication and anxiety and stuff is very meaningful to me and mental health so I'm going to keep that.

48:42This next photo is me on the beach and you all told me that my feet were bugging you out a bit so I think I'm going to change this to something else. I get way too excited about myself. You all thought that was funny and it is very true so I'm going to keep that and then this last photo is three years old so I'm going to change it probably to me on my most recent trip to New York. There's a photo of me that I can use or maybe me on tour. And here is my refreshed Bumble profile. Some of the same prompts, some different photos. Save me. Bumble, I love you. I can't wait to hopefully find love. This episode of Therapist is brought to you by Booking.com.

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50:30They also have, you can rent cars if you drive and you need a car for vacation. Like they really have everything you need to make your vacation as full as you need it to be. Or even if you're going solo because you want to know that the hotel or the place you're staying at has exactly what you need. Find exactly what you're booking for on booking.com. Booking dot, yeah! Do you remember the first time anyone ever asked you for a photo or an autograph or anything? You know what the funniest thing was? But I was on this set of Expendables. My mom, my mom, I got my mom a cameo on Expendables. Well, they have cameos in all your films, right?

51:08So my mom has, my parents have a cameo. My mom has a great one. You haven't seen it yet. But episode four in Chad Powers, my mom plays the moaning woman. Moaning woman? The moaning woman. she's I get kind of hurt in the in the episode and we're at the hospital and I the writer's room came up with this this character where uh there's a woman in the hospital who like has no apparent injuries but she's just like moaning in the waiting room and I was like this is such a good role for my mom that's amazing so so my mom uh was like I said hey mom I got you a role in episode four she's like oh my god I'm so excited what am I playing I'm like you're playing the moaning woman she's like what wasn't happy about that but i was like we got past it and then she goes all right so what do i need to do i want to do a really good job and i said i think it's gonna just be fun like we're just gonna play whatever just like good you know like we'll be good so she was like no i want to do a really good job so she would send me videos of her moaning so my mom is like is this a good moan is this a good moment i'm like man i think that's good

52:11and my little sister would hit me up she's like hey my mom mom wants to like do moaning coaching today what i'm not kidding so my mom was like taking this so seriously and there was a time where i was like walking down the sidewalk my mom sent me like you know you're on the go you're just like opening your text watching you know the videos so my mom sent me a video of her moaning oh god and and and i was like walking down the sidewalk and like i realized that i was like it sounded like i was just like watching porn just like everybody like around me's like what is he watching like this is terrible so anyway um my mom has a great cameo she absolutely crushed it you did a good job crushed it and does anyone else in your family have a cameo my dad has a cameo with eli manning so eli makes a cameo oh was he like this is amazing and my dad is a coach next to eli which is great and then um yeah they're they're like so they're they're everything but my mom was doing a cameo with uh in expendables 3 so mel gibson's the bad guy uh-huh in expendables three so i got her as like part of like the like the group around mel gibson you know during during that scene and so all of a sudden this guy came up he said do you mind taking a picture and i was like oh like it's like my first like somebody recognizes me this is cool and then he hands me the camera and takes a pic asked me to take a picture of my mom no way does he recognize your mom yeah because she's she was in front of the camera i wasn't even working that day i just brought my mom to set to be do her cameo so he didn't even know i was in the movie And that was your first experience with that?

53:33That was my first, yeah. How old were you? 24? 24? Did you enjoy your 20s? I did. I did. I really, like, honestly, being in LA, like, in your 20s, and also, like, I don't know, LA's, like, kind of, LA goes through, like, these different phases, right? Oh, yeah. One of my best buddies in the world is Guy Cord Overstreet. And Cord was on the show Glee. Do I know? So, like, we both auditioned for Glee. No, wait, sorry. We both auditioned for the same role. Sam Evans. Trouty mouth? Trouty mouth. I mean, it wasn't trouty mouth at the time, right? So it turned into trouty mouth with cord. Oh, okay, cool.

54:08But it was really just Sam Evans. It was like just a, but we were both in the waiting room at the same time because we were buddies. We met in acting class. We were like pals for a really long time, you know, like. So it was like we were close. And then we were down to the wire on Sam Evans and he got it. And, but like, he's still one of my best friends. We were about to be roommates. so we moved in together as he went on this like crazy Glee ride which was like kind of wild to be one of your best friends in the world to be like to watch him kind of go through that thing it was like pretty crazy to be around because it was also like the biggest show in the world I don't think a lot of people remember that everybody forgets how everywhere Glee was they were selling out stadiums of yeah Glee on tour yeah did you see Glee on tour of course I didn't get to go because I threw a temper tantrum and my mom wouldn't buy me the tickets Wow.

54:58That's what you get. I know. I know. How was Glee on tour? It was epic. What he sang? He sang Billionaire. Stop. Yeah. That was the audition song. No, it wasn't. So you sang Billionaire in the audition? Yeah. No way. Yeah, dude. Wait. Yeah, yeah. It's so funny, like, looking back, like, when you look back on the things that, like, you auditioned for, like, Glee was one of those that every once in a while you have an audition, you're like, wow. you know your life kind of changes you know and to watch Cord like go on that ride was like I mean his he was he couldn't go anywhere so do you remember was it literally after the first episode he was in everything shifted I remember it was even before during his casting what?

55:42because it was like a big casting like everybody in town was auditioning for this got it so like all of a sudden he got it and it was like all of LA like changed around him really everyone was like oh you're in Glee now yeah oh wow yeah it was nuts Was it awkward when you found out you didn't get the role, but he got the role? You know, look, I mean, not really. I don't know. I feel like I've always had like a long-term perspective about these things. Like things are sort of, I don't know, maybe. I think my dad is like incredibly zen about just the kind of ups and downs of life. And I grew up with like a very, I don't know, well-adjusted family.

56:20And I've never been competitive with other people. I've been competitive with myself. Like if I, I don't ever like, if I don't get something, I don't ever curse the other person's name. I always curse myself being like, I remember I auditioned for The Longest Ride. You remember that one? The cowboy one. The one, Scott Eastwood. Do you remember that one? It was like a Nicholas Sparks. Do you know this one, right? He's like a bull rider. Of course. You don't, you don't know. Come on, hold on. You, you, you. I need to see a poster for The Longest Ride. Nicholas Sparks. Oh, notebook? he he he was the author of the notebook hold on oh my god is Channing Tatum in this no okay I'll say but it was like it was like one of those like there was like the Nicholas Sparks boom and like I remember I just like got in that audition and I totally crashed what do you mean crashed like just couldn't do the job like sometimes you just like get in your head and as an actor every actor's had it happen in an audition like where you got to come ready to play and I've had, you have auditions, like my Friday Night Lights audition.

57:26Like I just - So sorry. I just wanted it too much and I just literally, I wanted it too much. Who did you audition for in Friday Night Lights? I auditioned for, my original audition here in Austin was Tim Riggins. Oh my God. I auditioned for Tim. What did you read? What? Do you remember? It was the U and Me Street, Forever in Texas. That bit, that was the scene. That was the audition scene. Um, but I mean like Taylor Kitsch obviously like smoked that role. It was like iconic. Like I was also in high school. Those guys were all like mid twenties playing high school. Like they, they looked the part.

58:03Like I, I was not a cool looking Tim Riggins in high school, even though I was playing high school football. Um, and you thought like this, I've, I've got this, like this is no Tim Riggins. Like whenever you see like who gets these things, you're like, okay, that actually makes more sense. then I auditioned for another role that was like the quarterback auditioned for two different quarterbacks like JD McCoy and something else but like then I was kind of at an age where I was like okay I could do this and I just crashed both times really what does a crash look like like you forget your lines it's like an out of body experience like being an actor like you have to be really present like you have to kind of like be plugged in and kind of just like there's a relaxation patient acting that you sort of have to have.

58:49Like you have to be really settled. It's like a weird job because you're in front of all these people and yet it has to be like very private. It has to feel very intimate. And I was just so hyper aware that this was like a job that I wanted too much. Yeah. And so I was like aware of everybody in the room. You're aware of all these things happening. And I just like, I couldn't, I couldn't settle into it. And did you make it past the first round? Yeah. I was like, it was like, it was close on, on both of them. Shut up. Yeah. Like really close. Like I was with Pete Berg in the room, chemistry style.

59:19Like it was full on. Did you ever end up watching Friday Night Lights? Oh yeah, I watched all of it. Best show ever. I loved it. I mean, it's a brilliant show. It's maybe one of the best shows ever, I think. You know what? And I'm not even kidding. I kind of agree. Yeah, it's incredible. I don't think there's any other show that just like, it's such a good depiction of like American life. Yeah. In like a small town. It takes place, where in Texas? Where in Texas? It takes place in, I mean, in the original was Odessa. Permian was the football team in the movie. This was a place called Dillon. Dillon, Texas.

59:52And you know, it's crazy that I don't know that because I dressed up as Tim Riggins for three Halloweens in a row. You were Tim Riggins? Really? Yeah. No way. What age? 22, 23. Did you have like a mullet? No, I wore a shirt and I had a football and I put stuff under. No, I had a jersey. The eye black. I put the eye black. I had a football and I would pose like this. Very Tim Riggins. Yeah. Yep. Essentially. What's your favorite TV show of all time? Favorite TV show of all time. That's a great question. When I was a kid, I loved Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. I had this thing like Warner, the WB was like, I guess the CW back in the day.

1:00:36But is that where the Mary-Kate and Ashley show was on? I watched every Mary-Kate and Ashley movie ever. I had two sisters and I could quote pretty much any Mary-Kate and Ashley movie. I'd play that game with you actually if you brought a quote out from Mary-Kate and Ashley. I bet I could tell you which movie it's from. the most starstruck the most starstruck I've ever been you ever see the movie Billboard Dad? No. That's Kyle Gerber. What's Billboard Dad? What is Billboard Dad? So you pitch Chad Powers I'll pitch Billboard Dad. So Billboard Dad is about Mary-Kate and Ashley play these two girls their dad is like a sculptor in like Venice Beach I think and he's like the ultimate catch but he's not putting himself out there.

1:01:22So they decide to put up a billboard in LA of their dad being like, hey, I'm single. And then like all these women come out of the woodwork and they're trying to set their dad up, right? So when I was like, this must have been 10 years ago, I'm in the Apple store. And, you know, you get your stuff fixed. You're at the Genius Bar or whatever. And you're sitting there, they're taking forever. And you're like, damn it, I'm just like waiting here. All of a sudden, billboard dad comes and sits next to me. And we were like just stuck at the Genius Bar together. but I was like, this is one of the coolest celebrity interactions ever.

1:01:51Did you say you are Billboard Dad? I wanted to. I did not. You did not? No. That's respectful. Yeah. I watched It Takes Two a lot. Holiday in the Sun. Holiday in the Sun, great one. Passport to Paris. Passport to Paris. What was the Double Double Toil and Trouble? Don't even play with me. Yeah, the Halloween one. The Halloween one's great. And then what else did they have? When you dress up as Juni Cortez from Spy Kids 3, we also should watch Double Double Toil and Trouble. Is he in Double Double Toil and Trouble? It's going to be Halloween. Yep. Okay. Done. New York Minute. New York Minute's a great one.

1:02:25Oh, my God. So undercover. Wait, no. Sorry. Undercover is like a... Yeah, sorry. Sorry. But what's the one where they... No, that's the Duff Sisters. What's the witness protection one? You... The Mary Kay and Ashley are in witness protection in Australia. Oh.

1:02:45Not Thunder Down Under. It's like undercover down under. Is that it? It's like. Is it our lips are sealed? Our lips are sealed. Our lips are sealed. Wow. Have you ever met the Olsen twins? No. Would you? Fangirl? For sure. I mean, because I also watched like. I also watched like. Full House? Full House. So it's like Full House was like big. So even like getting like. John Stamos is now one of like my family's like. John Stamos is at my sister's wedding. You know, like he's like a family. You know? And so it's wild because we became really close on Scream Queens. I forgot he was on Scream Queens.

1:03:22When you were filming Scream Queens, were you like, yeah, this is iconic? Or did you not process until it came out? You know what I remember about Scream Queens? While you're shooting it. So this was like a weird moment in the show, which is like it's now become kind of cult status. A lot of people have kind of watched it since. So the amount of people that come up to me about Scream Queens now is like way more than when it was on. right and so when it came out or like we made it you know it's like ryan murphy it's like emma roberts and leah michelle and like ariana grande and like it was like it was like jamie lee curtis like a huge crazy cast so they were like expecting this thing to be like a big big show right and then it came out i remember our social numbers were the biggest they've ever been for any show like the day of and then the show came out and like no one watched it and i remember like the texts were like congratulatory texts the night before and then it came out and the numbers came out and it was like wait how did no one watch the show and the whole world was talking about it and it was kind of like it was a very interesting vibe because like we kind of got picked up for a second season but it was like we kind of sputtered and just got there but like I was so proud of that show like the show is hysterical so good like it's such a great premise and it was like everybody on the show killed it but it's like it reminds you like you can't dance before you get in the end zone that's another chad powers thing wow how full circle was that yeah yeah that's a phrase i say all the time like people are like oh man congratulations i'm like don't dance before you get in the end zone when is the time in your life that you've danced before you got in the end zone that's a great question great question um well you kind of set it up for me i mean what's yours What a good question Okay I'm trying to think So every day of my life I do that So I'm trying to think Oh are you nodding?

1:05:11Yeah Okay so I'm trying to think of a time that I Louise what's a time that I've danced before I got in the end zone?

1:05:20Oh my god I thought What? There was this role that I was I'm trying to think and I was this This close to it And I was essentially telling people I got it and then like I was like like celebrating not celebrating but like like I think I got pinned for the role yes and I'd never gotten pinned for a role before so I was like oh I have it it's mine and so I was like oh this is amazing like I think I'm getting this role they asked from what dates I was available and then they were like actually you did not get that role so that's the time that I danced before I got in the end zone but not like I'm trying to think of like a time that was like really and truly like apparent.

1:06:03I did this on Divergent. Do you remember the movie Divergent? Are you serious? I was pinned or whatever. For who? Peter. The Miles Teller role. Oh. Is that Peter? My God. By the way, one of the greatest movie soundtracks of all time. Yeah, yeah. That was a second. Of all time. That was what's the name? Run, Boy, Run. Is that the one? Oh, no. They did not wood kid wood kid wood kid i think that's the name of the the artist that was like the m83 did it oh m83 was also part of the soundtrack ellie gold lane was on it yeah like it had some bangers yeah yeah that was a killer soundtrack yeah but yeah i was like i thought i fully thought i was getting that one and i did i did the mistake which i never do now i don't talk about when i'm up for something okay you don't i'm not like superstitious now but i like i realize until the deal is done anything can happen until you're on set by the way i've had friends that have been on sets what they shoot they start shooting and they pull the plug did you ever hear the crazy story about back to the future no so there's this guy um who was the original lead of back to the future right um his name is he's now a really big television director i'll think of it a second he but he was the he was originally cast in in the lead in back to the future and eric stoltz eric stoltz so he and you literally can see footage of eric stoltz in back to the future like what exactly exactly um like doing the exact same frames the exact same setups all that stuff and it's just a different guy and they fired him halfway through they were just like it's not working so he was like fully filming the movie so it's always in the back of my head like until you have the movie in the can like you can always be replaced have you ever experienced being caught on the cutting room floor yeah i remember i did this movie called the wendell baker story uh-huh right so uh it was luke wilson owen wilson will ferrell eva mendez it was like a great cast Chris Christopherson it was it was cool and so I play this paper boy in the movie and like I even I was like practicing like crazy to be like this stunt is basically I'm driving down the street I have this kind of like combative relationship with Luke Wilson in the movie and I basically throw a paper and like like just fuck with him and like throw papers right at him and so I practice this like stunt around and he's supposed to hit me with his car right bumped me from behind.

1:08:36So I had this crazy day with Luke Wilson. This is like peak Luke Wilson post, like, you know, post, like, what's the fraternity movie? American Pie? No, no, no. What's the fraternity? Why am I blanking right now? My brain is totally shot after Benson Moon. No, no, no. The one, the old school. So Luke Wilson did old school. It was like this, the peak Luke Wilson. And Will Ferrell's in it. So I had this amazing day shooting with all these guys. where I'm like a like mega fan of all these guys I like Luke ended up hitting me with his car and I flew over I got all scraped up and the boys were like you're the toughest guy ever and they added a new scene with like us all improv-ing and it was like great and then I go to the premiere and I saw I I we it's it's like the opening the movie and like my whole family's there and all of a sudden I watch it and I was like well it just came and went like no yeah you're just like it's like a flash of me and then it's gone and I saw Luke afterwards and he was like oh shoot he's like dude I'm I should have called you I'm so sorry I'm like dude it's all good it's all good I had a great day you know like you know hanging with the gang but again you just never know like and also it's not personal like I realized after that experience like it would have slowed the movie down you're always trying to take time out of a movie you're trying to make it cook and sometimes you shoot these like improv things that just don't make it you know I've had you have roles that just get cut down but it's heartbreaking because you like especially when you're on your way up like those little things like you're you're fighting for your you know you're fighting for seconds yeah do you remember a time where you're like oh my god I've made it I've done it I've made it I'm doing the thing and now you look back and you're like I can't believe that was the moment I thought I made it because now it's so much more intense now that's a good question I think I think I was I was I talked with a friend about this the other day like the the for financial freedom in this job you're not making much money people like even if you're in things people forget that like you're not actually making that much money right so like I just remember like I think it was after expendables I got paid like bare minimum but I was there for several months so I made like enough is like the most money I'd ever made it's like 70 ,000 bucks or something like that and I just remember being like I don't have to think about a cup of coffee like how much it costs you know what I mean like it was like oh I can I can buy because when you're in LA for most of that existence you're like nickel and diming everything like everything matters you like look at a rotisserie chicken and you're like how long can I make this last you know what I mean you buy the rotisserie chicken you're like okay if I break it up into however many meals if I eat this late in the day like how long it's like you're when you go to a bar like I would never drink at a bar I'd always flask it really?

1:11:21yeah I would always hide a flask in my boot obsessed yeah so I would you know it's like not trying to beat the system but you're like drinks in LA are expensive so expensive you know and like I would never like you know Josh always gave me shit like sometimes I'd like I'd go to dinner with people but I would never eat oh same and I'd say I'm not eating I couldn't I couldn't afford to split yeah you know it's like those sort of things so like once once you like I think it was like after Expendables and that money doesn't last long but it felt like Like, there was, like, a bit of weight that was lifted off of, like, feeling like I didn't have to worry about everything, you know?

1:11:57Do you ever miss, like, the simplicity of a more lax career back then? Are you enjoying the rush of everything today? I mean, there's, I mean, there's, I would say that, like, the intensity of the public thing is not intense all the time. like you'll see it's like intense sometimes like sometimes you walk into an environment it's like it's definitely i don't get recognized everywhere and it's like not like a thing that like takes away i i'm a guy that's gonna live my life regardless you know you we've been friends a long time and it's like i i like adventure i like going out i like having fun with my my people um i can't i'm not gonna change my life for this thing i've just learned to do it a little differently got it you know what i mean but it is like it's it's different it's different it's It's harder to like meet new relationships and friends.

1:12:46Like it's really, that part has been something I haven't figured out yet. Right. Yeah. Yeah. You'll get there. Okay. We'll figure it out. You got it. Oh, I mean, it's like, it's like also, you know, if you're going to be in a relationship, you want to do it right. I've realized like I'm right now in my life, I'm trying to do everything really deliberately. Like I, I'm not, I'm not a guy that like likes feeling good about doing anything carelessly. Like, so you're going to date. like I will I will I'm not dating to fill up time because I don't I don't have a lot of free time ever to fill up right so if I'm gonna if I'm gonna date I'm dating with like a purpose in mind and like a you know like to find the thing and so um that that that also is just in the back of your head when you don't have a lot of time to give someone or do it right sometimes I just like don't take that first step which is like maybe good and bad you know what I mean it's Like sometimes you're just like, man, I got this thing coming up and like I'm going to be in this city.

1:13:44Like is it even like a good idea to start? Because you already know that you can't devote time. Yeah, and I don't like to be like a glass half empty kind of thinker because like I really, I think that's such an important thing to continue like putting yourself out there and doing all those things. But it's like, it's, I also want to be considerate. Like you don't want to be like reckless with somebody else's feelings when you know what's on the other side. But also, if it's the right thing, you'll figure it out. 100 % yeah do you have any breaks coming up this fall like I'm gonna be in LA like all this fall are we gonna hang out yeah dude we're gonna kick it we're going on that road trip don't play with me do not play with me I really wanna go on a road trip my family's big on road trips my family growing up the two things my family loves more than anything it's the reason I can sleep anywhere like you saw me like pass out on the plane yeah you can't do that I can sleep anywhere and it's because like my family we would take road trips when I was like a kid like to like if we went to europe like we're not spending like money on hotels and things like that you'd basically my family would pay for the first like two nights of the trip and the last two nights of a hotel so we knew we were starting and we knew we were ending up and everything in the middle was sort of game so we just rent a car and you just like drive through you go hey should we try to go to like italy or like we want to go to like you know you want to go to lichtenstein you know it's like whatever it is and you you just go all right cool let's go do it and um but half the time that means you're sleeping in a car I also used to um take road trips from New York to LA with my dad and my brother and we used to sleep in the car and I used to sit in that car for like 12 hours a day you just like but you but I think it's a good thing for kids like they're not like they don't get soft because like you go my my parents were like kind of big on adventure they kind of were just like hey I mean we have this adage in my family it's like no good story happened from things going right and that is so awesome you know and you know what I needed to hear that yeah because I was well I you know I never finished my story about my travel experience from Paris to oh yeah I'll tell you about that later it was horrible I mean but but travel also is like in a relationship with your family whatever it's like good to be like it's good to not have everything dialed in where you have to like problem solve together it always makes it like it always makes say great stories like you don't ever like tell a story about a vacation and be like you know super relaxing and like people don't want to hear that right like yo we were caught in a hurricane and we couldn't get out and blah blah blah you know what i mean that is such a good attitude to have so it's like that's with like my family we have this one great story where there was this like really cool uh italian town we wanted to see it was called uh vernazza and it's right on the coast and they said inaccessible by car.

1:16:29But as we were driving by in Italy, my dad saw a sign and it said, it's Vernazza this way. He's like, maybe. I'm fucking going to Vernazza. Yeah, let's go to Vernazza. Yeah. So we started driving and all of a sudden it started leading to like, the roads started getting smaller and smaller and smaller and then we're on these really high cliffs. And I'm talking about the roads like a little wider than this couch. Like thousands of feet down and we're like the whole family and all of a sudden we get down and like the whole time it's like, we're like, if my dad literally said while we were in the car, he's like, if some other car comes, we're leaving the car and we're going to figure it out.

1:17:04Like we, we, we, we're not going to try to, it was, it was, were you scared? Yeah. And you could see cars that had fallen off. No. Yeah. You could see like, it was like, it was like people had tried and failed. Like it was a bad. So why didn't you guys stop the car? Well, you were like, where is Vernazzi going to be? Like you kept pushing, you know what I mean? Like we kept pushing. So all of a sudden we get to the bottom of this um we get to the bottom and all of a sudden it kind of dead ends of these trees and all of a sudden it's kind of getting dark it's like getting dusk and the family's looking at each other like oh man we're gonna have to like just sleep in our car in this random thing so it gets dark and then all of a sudden you could see through these woods like it looked like like fire like candlelight or something and my dad's like let's go check this out so my dad and i walked through the woods with the family and it opened up into this street it looked like we were like time traveling it opened up and it's like cobblestone streets and and and it was all like candlelight it was like so like magical and it looked like it was completely abandoned then we walked and there was this tavern of all these people singing and we were like do you have a hotel here they said we don't have any hotels here and so it's like my family it's my sisters my mom and my dad we're all like where do we stay for the night do we have to go back to the car and this random couple was hearing us in the in the bar and they said they seem like a good family and they let us stay at their house for the night.

1:18:21And we still keep in touch with them. They get a Christmas card from us every year. And it's like one of those things that like for me, I was like, that's like a great adventure. It's like sums up my family about like how we kind of travel. Like you go, if we would have like tried to just do the dance steps that everybody else goes, if we didn't kind of take the plunge, like sure it was dangerous or it was crazy, but it's like a great family story where it's like we made new wonderful friends in this far corner of the world and like took the plunge together. It's like a great, you know. That is a great story.

1:18:48that sounds like maybe out of either two movies, one like a rom-com or a horror movie. Yeah, totally, totally. Was it Vernazza that you ended up in? Yeah, Vernazza. Oh, that was Vernazza? Yeah, it was Vernazza. Yeah, it's called the Cinque Terre Islands, which is like these islands, and Vernazza is one of the Cinque Terre Islands. Wow. Okay, well, Glenn, what are you therapist about today? What am I therapist about today? And honestly, after hearing you talk and hanging out with you all weekend, it feels like nothing. Dude, you know, I mean, I think the thing that I'm like, I'm kind of like grumpy Glenn in the fact that you and I are about to kickstart this party.

1:19:23Once you and I get a little tequila in us, I feel like we're going to beat this hangover. We're going to hair of the dog this shit. And then I get to bring you to a UT game. I have nothing to be therapist about. We are really good drunks together. Can I say, we were vibing last night. At the Benson Boone concert, we were like, first of all, the only drunk people there. For sure. The only drunk people there. I turned to like someone on his team. I'm like, I'm so drunk. And he looks at me, he goes, it's 10, 15 PM. I said, I'm sorry. So sorry. You know, what's really funny is, is we got there. It made me laugh.

1:19:57Cause we go, we, we got to kind of the box and I said, Hey, do you guys have like tequila or something like that? And he goes, Oh, let me see what we can do. And I'm almost positive. They had to post mates. They did. I know that they did because I'm thinking, I'm like, Oh, the alcohol has been taking a while. Like, I wonder where it is. All of a sudden we're drinking. I'm like, okay, the alcohol is here. Great. And then I turn to my left and I see a brown paper bag. I say, oh my God, they postmated us alcohol for the Men's Go concert. I was very grateful. But I was also like, oh, like we're, you know, we were the delinquents in that place for sure.

1:20:29We were. And we were so drunk. Yeah. But you held it together so well on stage. Thank you. So well. Thank you. I'm so excited for UT later. Like I'm like tweaking out about it. So I'm going to teach you the chance. We're going to have you drink out of a boot and a hat. I even want to see if I can get you to shoot off the cannon. What? There's a cannon that when Texas scores, we shoot. Please, I'll do anything. So I'm going to introduce you to Bevo. I'm going to see if I can get you to shoot this cannon. Okay. And I'm going to see if there's any sort of other rites of passage that you need to have.

1:21:02But I don't think you're really truly ready for a Texas game day. There's nothing like it. Oh, I'm really excited. Louise is like from the south, and she said, like, I'm not ready. No, it's like great. I went to a game in Tuscaloosa when Texas played. You remember that game? Yeah. Am I a good house guest? You're the best house guest. Really? I told you, man. I was impressed with you woke up just so peacefully in those pajamas. You have a great pajama set. Do you know there's Texas flags on those pajamas? I did not see that. Yeah. Oh, actually, can I give you a little gift? What? We got you. No, you didn't.

1:21:39Here we go, buddy. This is just, you know, not that I don't love your pajamas, but I thought, you know, this could be like a nice little. Oh, I'm going to wear this to bed tonight. Oh, my God. You know, if I wasn't, Glenn, thank you. Maybe we could wear this on 6th Street tonight. Wait, can I? Yeah, totally. Can we actually go to 6th Street? Yes, please. I think you on 6th Street would be trouble, but I think we'll find it. Glenn, I love you. I love you, buddy. Thank you. This is so thoughtful. Before we wrap up, you know what we have to do. What? Tell me what's wrongs. Oh, yes. My new girlfriend's dad offered me a cigar.

1:22:16I accepted even though I have never smoked one. I assumed it was like anything else you smoke and I inhaled it. I was coughing relentlessly and crying my eyes out on the floor. Him and his friends were literally pointing and laughing. How do I come back from this? No, I think that's a good thing. As you say, no good story comes from a good situation. They now know you did something to win their approval that you didn't want to do. I think that's like, there's a little bit of hazing. Whenever like a boyfriend or girlfriend comes into the family and meets everybody, there's a little bit of like hazing that goes on.

1:22:47I think like the cigar smoking means they like you. It means they like, you're not boring. They want to like put you through this shit and see how you handle it. How do you initiate your sisters, now husbands, into the Powell family? How did you? We, you know, my dad, like for instance, I'll tell you like when my dad met my mom's family for the first time, they pulled a prank where they acted like they were like a real redneck sort of family. So it's a very well-educated, like, smart family. But they were acting like they were wearing, like, the craziest clothes. Like, you know, put, like, black stuff on their teeth.

1:23:29Like, true, they rented cars that were, like, the seats were missing. They loaded the car up with, like, pit bulls. And basically my dad, like, when my dad landed, my uncle Billy and Steven picked him up. and they were like hey but you know sorry cindy can't be here but like you know get in the car and they're like dogs like my dad's wearing a full suit to like impress the family and there's like dogs drooling all over them they give them a beer they're like here drink this and they had hired a buddy of theirs part who worked for the government in a in a like a blacked out like lincoln town car with a siren to pull them over and they said hey hey this is the most insane No, no, my family's big on pranks.

1:24:17Very big on pranks. So the town car pulls them over, and he goes, shit, it's the feds. And my uncle gets out and pretends to have a knife fight and murder this guy on the side of the road. And then the guy pretends to kill my uncle and pulls him through the window and says, welcome to Texas, boy. And that was literally my dad's, well, that was like him meeting the family. Like it was a, he thought he witnessed a murder. Like that's the level of like, I always tell people like when people are like, did I meet your family? I'm like, like, especially like my aunt, honey, like, I'm like. Aunt honey?

1:24:55Yeah, honey, who's rowdy. I'm like, if you don't know if you've met them, you haven't met them because they're like so rowdy. That is the most insane prank I've ever heard. Was your dad scared? Yeah, absolutely. He thought he was going to jail. He's like, oh my God. Like I just watched a man get murdered and like, so, but like, it's like those sort of things where like the whole family, I believe that everybody, a true, like for me, if I'm like, if I give people shit, like it means I love you. Right. It means like, it means I'm so comfortable with you that we can like, you know, mess with each other and take the piss out of each other and not like, it's just a level of confidence in a relationship in my opinion.

1:25:34So I think this cigar thing, I think it's a good thing. And you just came so full circle with that. In a way that I've never experienced. What is the best prank you've ever played on someone? Because I can tell you mine. The one that I get quoted about forever because I released 3 ,000 crickets in the school on the last day of school. And so it like. You released 3 ,000 crickets. On the last day of eighth grade. How did you manage that? Well, I. You put them in your backpack? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I put them. I didn't. I basically. How I did it was I went to the. I went to the pet store. And you can just buy crickets at the pet store.

1:26:09So I bought 3 ,000 crickets, and then I hid them in the woods outside the school. And so then I got, like, guys to kind of, like, go during bathroom breaks and stuff like that to get the crickets, hide them in the ceiling. Then, like, the next guy would take them out of the ceiling and scatter them. We had, like, a whole, like, operation. So right before the lunch bell would ring where people, like, flooded this one hallway, it was, like, a big, like, bottleneck area. I was, like, this is where we got to release the crickets. I, like, released all these crickets. So everybody came out of the thing like heading to lunch and there were crickets just like everywhere.

1:26:40So I get quoted for that one a lot. That was a good high school prank because I got in a lot of trouble for it. What? They figured out I did it, yeah. I mean, how would they not? I know, yeah. Were you like, I did it? None of my friends ratted me out. Oh, good friends. But it got back. So the cigar story is just a story? I think the cigar story, I truly believe that like a cigar, I think it's a good thing. It means they like you. I mean, I've mortified myself in so many ways. Not in front of my significant other. I don't have a significant other, obviously. It's family. But my friends' families all the time.

1:27:13None of my friends like any of the things I like. So music, shows, movies, restaurants, nothing. So in order to indulge in any of my passions, I have to be alone or force someone to go with me awkwardly. Why are you friends with them? What is the remedy to this, please? What do you think about this one? I mean, I don't know why you're friends with people who share zero interest. I don't know. It didn't seem like a friend. That feels like friends by force. Like you're just like you grew up with them and like they're your friends. That's a confusing one. Yeah. Because I feel like the first step of friendship is that you like, you bond over something.

1:27:47What? That's the first thing we bonded over. First thing we bonded over? Pilates. Thank. I mean, the one thing that I love, see, this is like a good example where it's like your shakes on the Pilates machine. like that was where I was like oh this guy's like a like and your commentary on it was so funny I was like wait what is happening right now yeah and it just like immediately endeared you like endeared me to you I was just like oh my god I love this guy because you're just hilarious about it and I think that's it it's like again like people not being cool like people not being like so protective like being self-aware that we all do weird shit right you know 100 % hi I'm Emily Hi, Emily.

1:28:26And I never know how to read a room. People can be really upset with me and I won't pick up on it and continue making jokes, vice versa too. How do I practice self-awareness going forward so as not to alienate myself from social groups? You're really good at reading a room. Was that something you learned or just born with it? That's a really good question. What is your opinion about that? To be honest, I don't think you can learn how to read a room. I think like, I think, sorry, I take that back. I think if you continue putting yourself in situ, if you have somebody with you that will call you out when you're not reading the room properly, to take in what you've done in that moment to not read the room properly and take it with you to the next time.

1:29:12And like each time it'll get better and better and better and better. It's like pouring water into a cup with sand. Like eventually the sand comes out. do you have the thing that when you go to an event or have a conversation with somebody when you get home and you go back by yourself that you have sort of the sunday scaries or like whatever the monday morning quarterbacking like everything that happened i my entire life is like i literally feel like i do this all the time where i'll like you know it's very nice you say i could read a room but i'll like i'll like literally go to something and i'll like have all these conversations and then i'll get home and i'll be like why did you do that like why did you say like i'll literally just like hate on myself and that's one thing i'm trying to get better about which is just being like okay like people know your good intention like we all make mistakes right sort of thing but it's like it's hard like sometimes you slip up and say like the exact thing that you're not supposed to say right to the person that you're like why did i do that what is like without naming names the worst time you put your foot in your mouth i'm not gonna say okay i have i have one in the back of my head that my buddies like give me shit about all the time will you tell me after I'll tell you afterwards.

1:30:13Okay, amazing. My best friend initially got engaged last year. She had told me that she was going to ask me to be a bridesmaid in her wedding. A month ago, I found out from another friend that she had asked all of her bridesmaids already, and I was not included. This really hurt my feelings, but I haven't been able to tell her. I feel like I'm resenting her because of it, and I don't like it. I just can't get over it. I would say on the good side of things, being a bridesmaid is such hard work. I totally agree. You have bachelor trip, all these different things. It's so expensive. like just try to look on the bright side of it and also like maybe reevaluate your relationships if you thought you were close enough to be a bridesmaid and you obviously weren't totally and also like weddings are a lot of obligatory invites like nobody thinks about it's like my little sister just threw her wedding and like like she has to kind of do the thing where it's like there's the people you have to invite that are like your family or this or whatever it is or people that grew up or have been really helpful with the family or whatever it is and then there's those people that you're really close to and like you can't please everybody you know what I mean and I think like the the thing that I'm like realizing especially on the that sort of aspect like my I come from a family like we call my mom FOMO sometimes like she's just epitomizes FOMO she wants to be a part of everything but we realize is that like I think the worst thing that social media has done for people is show them what they weren't attending like what they weren't a part of and if you're the kind of person that like feeds into that and is like that kills them it's a really it's a really horrible place like I'm always like I'm always like I do this thing in my career like I got a good advice early on where I said they said don't look in the other lanes you're running your own race right which is like if somebody else is doing good I'm like that's good that's good for the business it's good when people are working it's good when people are thriving like you root for everybody to win and like I kind of feel the same way like on a social aspect i'm like when i watch people like living their best life like that shouldn't eat at you like you should be like hey i should go live my best life too like it's you should root for people to be happy and have fun but like the the bridesmaid thing in particular is like i always think that like in the back of your head you should always remember like there's other politics going on other than the simplicity of do i like you right yeah what do you think oh you're so wise Do you ever feel like I'm so wise?

1:32:28No. You don't feel that way? What is like the biggest lesson you've learned in the past year? Probably if you are genuinely well-meaning, you can never, no matter what happens, if you try to do your best, then like doing your best, like try to treat people well, trying to show up for your job, like trying to, it's like a hard thing to explain, but like I feel like right now I feel like I can get caught in a bit of a storm of a lot of things I can't control and it can be hard for someone who like is trying to show up and do their best to be like wait why is this happening why is this happening and I think the real the thing that I go if you can look at yourself in the mirror and go like hey I did my best I tried my hardest whatever it is like then that's a thing that like kind of releases all the chaos of the world which is we're all going to make mistakes we're all going to do whatever but like if you can look yourself in the mirror and go i i tried my best i tried to show up and i tried to treat people well whatever it's like giving yourself a little bit of grace because i'm i really do i'm a sensitive person and i can be really hard on myself and like everybody like my mom was like i never had to punish you because you punish yourself like i was always like a kid that like if i if i made a mistake or did something wrong i was i hated myself right i couldn't get over it um and i still do that I still do that to a great degree if I if I feel like I fumbled if I hurt somebody or I feel like I fumbled like I really I get I go dark fast and I'm I'm trying to in this in this phase of life you realize like you're never trying to disappoint people but so many people sort of ask for your your time and and attention and there's only so many hours in the day and you really want to show up for everybody but like I think in the past I would really hate myself for not being able to make everybody happy.

1:34:21And I'm trying to get better about like giving myself grace, being like, hey, you did your best. Like you can't do it for everybody, you know? Glenn, that's beautiful. Thanks, man. You have such a good outlook on life.

1:34:36Oh, this one is interesting because we were talking about this last night and it kind of relates to Chad Powers. My best friend is turning into a conspiracy theorist lately and it's so fucking tiring. Like to a point where even if it's something that's believable or something, I don't even care because I want my old buddy and I's conversations back. Is there anything I can do? And you said something so fascinating about conspiracy theorists yesterday. Can you share? Well, basically what I was saying is like, so writing Chad Powers, the character of Russ Holiday, this horrible thing happened to him that, you know, he made this mistake in front of the whole world and this sort of life burned down.

1:35:11And what happened was he became like a conspiracy theorist, right, where he believed in sort of all of these things of like there has to be like dark, you know, figures behind any bad thing that happens or a meaning that's not just like, hey, sometimes bad things happen, you know. And so what I find that a lot of conspiracy theorists, like my point of view about a lot of conspiracy theories, is that it's just like people not taking accountability, right? It's hard to describe. this world is a complicated place and like scary things happen and bad things happen and they're hard to fathom and the why of it like evil does exist and so instead of trying to go hey you know like um you know instead of trying to go like hey like uh bad things happen you sort of like double down on this idea that there's there's a mechanism behind the world that's out to get you and I think that's like a thing that like is in the back of my head is like look sure there are there some some of these conspiracy theories like absolutely they're very possible and there's a lot of things that you know I I always think we should always be questioning the truth of things not just be feeding what the media gives you I think that's really important I think it's always important to question things but I do find that like that was a that was a basic part of Chad Powers is that all him just saying like hey I made a mistake and my life fell apart instead of doing that he blames it on everyone else and like I think accountability is like conspiracy theorists for me are a lot of people that just aren't taking accountability for the fact that the world is hard to explain sometimes right and it's like what you said was like they believe that the world is working against them yes instead of just existing yes right I thought that was so smart And I think you should show that to your friend who's obsessed with conspiracy theories.

1:37:06Glenn, what did we learn today? It's always a journey with you, man. We covered a lot. Can I say, I think this watches our other podcast out of the water. I totally agree. And can I tell you something? I told a lot of bizarre shit, and I know all of it is factual. Cheers. Cheers, buddy. Eyes. Okay, so after this, I'm going to go put on my cowboy outfit. Let's go. And we're going to start drinking. Yep. And have the best day of my life. I can't wait. Thank you for having me. Dude, I'm so happy you're here, man. The cowboy hat, I think this has to be kind of like your new look. I honestly think it might be.

1:37:46Austin, Texas has been very good to me so far. It's a good look on you. And I think if I play the part, it'll be even better. I agree. Okay, do you want to give a little buy pussies, hook them? Buy pussies, hook them.

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