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Podcast Summary
This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von - Episode E485: Israel Adesanya
Overview In this episode, Theo Von travels to New Zealand to have a candid conversation with Israel Adesanya, a mixed martial artist and former UFC Middleweight Champion. They discuss Adesanya's journey in the UFC, personal experiences, and reflections on fame, emotions, and life lessons.
Key Themes and Discussions
Israel Adesanya's Fighting Career
- Time Off from Fighting: Adesanya shares insights on his time away from the octagon and reflects on his career's ups and downs.
- Desire for a Rematch with Sean Strickland: He expresses his eagerness for a rematch following his recent loss.
- Current State of the UFC: Adesanya discusses his thoughts regarding the UFC's direction and landscape.
Fame and Public Interactions
- Dealing with Fans: Adesanya talks about managing interactions with fans and the pressures of fame. He emphasizes the importance of setting boundaries.
- Personal Growth: Reflects on how he has learned to handle public attention and the toll that fame can take on mental health.
Emotional Insights
- Vulnerability: Adesanya emphasizes the importance of being able to express emotions and not viewing it as a weakness.
- Childhood Reflections: Discusses how childhood experiences inform his current views and behaviors, particularly in dealing with envy and self-worth.
Personal Life and Interests
- Adesanya's Interests: He talks about his current hobbies, such as playing golf and exploring new experiences, including skydiving.
- Self-Discovery: Highlights his journey of self-discovery, including the complexities of his identity and how he navigates professional challenges.
Lessons Learned
- The Importance of Therapy: Adesanya shares his experiences with therapy and how it has helped him process emotions and past trauma.
- Life's Challenges: He discusses the inevitability of challenges and how they can lead to personal growth, encouraging listeners to embrace and learn from them.
Conclusion This episode showcases not only Israel Adesanya's insights into his professional life but also his deeper reflections on personal growth, vulnerability, and the human experience. Theo Von and Adesanya share a meaningful conversation that resonates with listeners on multiple levels, emphasizing the importance of self-awareness and emotional honesty.
Key Takeaways
- Emotions are Valid: It's essential to express and process emotions rather than suppress them.
- Setting Boundaries: Celebrities need to establish boundaries with fans to protect their well-being.
- Continuous Learning: Life presents ongoing opportunities to learn and adapt, regardless of fame or success.
- Value of Therapy: Seeking professional help can provide invaluable tools for personal growth and understanding.
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Contact Information
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Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00At Sierra, discover top workout gear at incredible prices, which might lead to another discovery. Your headphones haven't been connected this whole time. Awkward. Discover top brands at unexpectedly low prices. Sierra, let's get moving. Today's guest brings us to New Zealand, and we're happy to be here. And he is a fighter, a kickboxer, an artist. It's fascinating to watch him experience the world. he's a damn human Van Gogh of some type of sorts he's had one of the greatest runs as a UFC champion I'm just grateful to spend time with him today Mr. Israel Adesanya shine that light on me I'll sit and tell you my stories shine on me And I will find a song I'll be singing I'm on stage
1:13Yeah, brother, cheers, cheers Good as I'm a look Yeah, that's about it Healthy eight I'm an eight You're pretty I mean, they don't have a lot of like Well, let's don't fucking go down that road, man I can't call another fighter handsome Yeah, you can. I like the hair. If I could mullet, I'd definitely do it for a season. Really? Yeah, fuck yeah. Well, they need someone, and I don't want to say who, but someone of certain culture would be neat to see the jerry curl really. Yeah, I know what you mean. I used to have jerry curls when I was younger. It was a thing maybe in the late 90s, early 2000s, but then it's not good for your scalp.
1:57Really? Yeah, all the chemicals in there. Also, the last time I did it, I burnt my scalp. Oh, damn, really? Yeah, I left it on too long, so then I was like, right, we're done with that. But also, it's not good for your scalp, for your hair, because my hair is meant to be, as you say, nappy, like texturized, you know? So having to burn it out to straighten it and then put perm and all that stuff is not good. Oh, you got to do that? So it's like you got to straighten it and then perm it? Yeah, so the relaxer straightens it, and then you can put the jerry curl in there and then makes it curly. But yeah, I never had it long.
2:27I had it short, but still. I mean a mullet would be nice though Yeah I think it would be A cool fighter I mean who Miguel Torres Ricky Simone Ricky Simone Yeah he's got a nice one A lot of guys at the gym Oh well Who else Ortega has Did he have one? Brian Ortega He just had locks Like nice Arnold Allen Did he have I'm trying to think A lot of Kiwi guys Like my guy toes him up A lot of the guys Oh a lot of damn women In this country have this You're not wrong To be honest bro You'll see a grandma With a hatchet In this hat Like this is real It's standard Yeah But it would be awesome On some of the highlight videos Just to see the fucking Whip When you hit someone Bang Or if we're getting hit That's one thing What I'm grateful for Is like Because I know It looks worse sometimes When you have long hair And you get hit And maybe even if you roll With the shot Yeah The crowd goes Oh Yeah And then you're like Fuck they thought that Bro that That whizzed past me But it looked like You got hit Because of the Dude that's what's interesting about you you're that intricate to detail that you want to even man it like you want to have a say so in how you even get hit if that makes any sense like how does that look to people yeah you know like you're such an entertainer it's like i even want to make that look as perfect as i can possible yeah i try not to get hit but if i'm gonna get hit i'm being hit by the best yeah you know a lot of them so um and they're always iconic moments but still like yeah the game is hit and don't get hit so I can preserve my noggin, my brain.
4:00I want to keep this intact so I can keep doing this and I don't have to talk.
4:10You don't want that. It is kind of crazy. Reporters will totally look over that a guy can't even speak just to be like, hey, how do you feel about this next fight? I mean, that's why Joe, shout out to him. He stopped interviewing guys after they've been knocked out. Oh, really? Yeah, he said that. I think it was after the Overeem fight. And Overeem did a famous meme or saying he says, I clearly felt a tap because he had Stipe in a guillotine. He thought he tapped. But again, he just got rocked. So, you know, your brain's not really all there. I've been knocked out before, like, cold once. Shout out to Pereira.
4:46Yeah. Pereira, is that how you say it? Yeah. Pereira. Alex Portan Pereira. Oh, he's really. Yeah. I feel like you probably admire him. Yeah, of course. Look, people think I'm not a hater, man. I'm a guy who we're all in this game together, right? We're all trying to better our lives for our family and generations and all that. And he's achieved it. In the beginning, when he first came to the UFC, granted, he didn't have the run that I had. He got to the spot he got because he already beat me in kickboxing. And I don't want to harp on too much about this, but I want to give you the history. Yeah, no, no.
5:22For those who don't know, because I'm sure new people will be watching this, so they can understand. It was literally 3-0. Oh, 2-0. 2-0. 2-0. So technically, the first fight, I thought I won. You know, anyone who watched it, he edged that out. And then they gave it to him. And I was like, what? Okay, cool. Second fight, we go to Brazil. I think Sao Paulo. Beautiful. And I was there on Carnival. Oh, man. I was cutting weight, so I couldn't be outside. But I'll tell you what. I'll never forget this. I go downstairs from the hotel when I get to Sao Paulo because you have to get like a plug that works, you know, a converter.
6:01And then my phone was on 1%, so I left it in my room. I go downstairs, and I'll never forget it. I see this guy and two girls, and then one of them kind of looked back to see what was behind her and smiled and just had the most beautiful racial ass to tits I've ever seen in my life. And I remember thinking like, fuck. I wish I could capture this moment, but I just right there. I just right there. But I think they were hookers though. It was probably like 2 a.m. We landed or something, so he was getting something to go. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Getting something to go. But yeah, that was beautiful.
6:41Just right there. Anyway, back to the fight. So I fight Alex and then... Oh, especially if you hadn't eaten in a couple days. Oh man, you know what I'm saying? I'm hungry. Hungry. But yeah I get to the fight Doing work Beating them And then Catches me Because I rocked him In the second round And in the third round He just came back Rallied up And just caught me Flatlined me That's the only time I've ever been knocked out And was that the kickboxing? Yeah kickboxing Okay And then Yeah When I came I came too And I remember like They were rushing me Trying to put oxygen mask on me And I was like I don't need that Hold up And they tried to take me out On a stretcher as well And I was like Chill champ It's not that deep But then I walked to the back And I remember me and Eugene Just walked silently to the back To this white space And just kind of like Huh I was like what did he hit me with He goes left hook He straight away just told me left hook It's like your hand didn't come back fast enough I was like ah But again in that That time from being knocked out to that moment Having a mic in my face And then So how do you feel about this fight That wouldn't be ideal So I'm glad Joe stopped doing that Just so the guys don't have to embarrass themselves or say something that they might regret later on.
7:51Yeah. Yeah, I never, I didn't even think about how crazy that is that they even do that. It's almost like, kind of like when you have to do that dizzy bat game, you know, where you spin your head. In my gym, we have this drill that we haven't done in a while, actually. But the dizzy bat game, and then you do it 10 times, then you get up and you have to hit the pads. Just in case, you never know in a fight where you might get rocked and then you have to keep your composure. So yeah, dizzy bat game. And then, you know, most times it's like you have to run straight. But this one You have to write there One two Ba ba One two three And you're just But again That's what it's like When you get rocked sometimes And you're just like Oh shit You have to keep your composure So Oh that's interesting It's an old school drill That the Liga boys Balmora Liga boys had So Eugene's done it a few times But I might bring it back For some fun Actually I might do it For some content That'd be a good idea It's interesting I feel like it'd be fascinating I've never seen that You ever train?
8:39Yeah I've trained But I'm just a one stripe white belt Ah I see nice But there's still some possibility Oh you can still There's levels Yeah You can still Three stripes. Imagine that. Fuck. You'd be a badass. I'll fuck somebody up outside of Jimmy John's. You give me three stripes. Dude, I watched the documentary, man. It was really cool. Thank you. It was really interesting for you to just share about what it's like to not only have some of your history, but then also to like the pressures of how things change once you achieve your dreams and your goals and then how some of that feels like it doesn't really fulfill maybe what you thought it was going to do.
9:26Yeah. Like I could relate to that a ton, man. I'm sure. Wait, when did you kind of like blow up? What age would you say? I would say like five years ago. I think work started getting busier for me probably maybe. So about five years ago you would have been, yeah. I'm glad I didn't find fame at a young age. Like, say, 25-year-old Izzy with everything that I have now, bad idea. Hey, Tio, bad idea. That's a story for later on. But, yeah, I'm glad I found fame later on. But still, you know, they say be careful what you wish for. Yeah. And I don't regret anything. I'm ready. I prepared for this life.
10:06But it's still surprising. Yeah, there's levels. There's all these variables you don't expect And I've kind of set myself up now To the point where Okay, I've expressed enough Like how I've Example, what's one After the UFC 243 in Melbourne I defended my belt Against Whitaker Against Whitaker So I defended my belt the first time I like to put it And then Going to the airport I remember just thinking in the car like Fuck, because I was kind of just There's so much stimulus Because I just did what I did And still to this date the highest attendance in UFC history. It was 57 ,127 people. And all these, everywhere I went, you know, it was just crazy.
10:49Even the week, fight week, I went down the strip, just walked alone just because I was like, let me enjoy this while I can, you know, because I didn't know how long I would have that for. I can still do it now, but because I have boundaries now, I didn't have that for a long time. But what I did on the way to the airport, going back to NZ, I just put out a thing on my story or a tweet just saying, look, if you see me at the airport, just approach me cautiously. You don't have to come yelling. Because for me, I was like, oh my God. Yeah, it's crazy. It's very scary. You think you're on fire? Remember the bit in the movie where I didn't even plan it and they just kind of like drove by and I'm like, what the fuck?
11:22Oh yeah, yeah. They raised my adrenaline up and then they came to my door and that's why I moved houses because people would just come to my door and oh my God. And this is like 9 p.m. at night. I'm like, yo. And I had to pound you. Just let me borrow some quiche. Yeah. A guy's tried to sell me a watch once Oh, that's perfect Yeah, and then I was like, hold up And I went upstairs, came back down And I was like, I already got this watch, bro It was a G-Shark, like a black and gold one Classic, but then For me, I just, boundaries I had to learn boundaries for myself Yeah, because you burn out Yeah, it burns you After I do any kind of media stuff Or anything with fans My people just know, my friends, my security They just know, okay, I just go to my room and I just regroup or replenish my social battery, if you will.
12:07And I'm sure you've had to deal with this as well. Yeah, I didn't know that I had to do that. Like about two and a half years ago, things were going well. It was like being able to sell tickets and stuff. And just like you work so hard for it. And I didn't know. I would go meet every fan after. I didn't know. I felt like I could never do enough to make people think that I was enough. No, there's more. There's never enough Because you give them an inch They'll take a mile I haven't stopped signing These guys who just come Camp at the fighter hotel I don't even stay at the fighter hotel anymore I always get my own space now Just because I remember like Oh can you sign this please And then they'd have like a stack of shit Oh totally And then you know I didn't want to be the bad guy So I'd sign everything But it got to a point where I'm like Hang on That's not just for you You're selling that And yo just be honest But again don't take the piss And have like 20 fucking gloves for me to sign.
13:02I'm like, yo. No, no, no. You signed this for my daughter. You signed this for my grandson. Oh, my God. When they use their kids. He's six months old. I don't like it when they use their kids as a Trojan horse. They come with the kid. I'm like, don't. And I'm like, do you want to take a picture? Because sometimes the kid will be like, no, fuck's this guy. I'm like, do you want to take a picture? Or does your dad want to take a picture? Because if he just said, oh, bro, I'm a big fan, you know, can I take a picture? That's cool. But again, it's just boundaries. Boundaries and respect. Like, I just came back from the gym I actually go to a A public gym Once in a while now Because after the The last lockdown Again I come out into the world And People are all locked down They're excited The energy was always just And I just didn't know How to deal with it Because again I'm human And I'd get Really anxious And sometimes a little bit Short with my fuse Oh me too for sure Bro what the fuck Like come Yeah let's take a photo But chill And then I realized No I gotta fix this So I went to a public gym Just because I was like Immerse myself in people And again I'd have to tell people Nah Not right now I'm working So that was my way of learning The reps of saying no You have to learn how to say no Because if you don't say no They'll just take They'll take And they'll hold you hostage With their conversation as well Yeah I don't like that Oh they're like We FaceTimed My stepmother's dying You know We FaceTimed I'm like Dude look She don't want to see me What am I going to do Tell her some jokes And then I get on there And she's like Oh no And it's like, what the fuck?
14:29She doesn't give a fuck. She doesn't give a fuck. She has bigger problems. She's trying to die. She's trying. Yeah, she's trying to hide whatever bad stuff is left in her home before God comes and gets her. And now she has to pretend that we can talk. But no, I just found it to be fascinating because I thought that once I got to a certain part of success, maybe, or if enough people knew me, I thought everything inside of me would be cool. And it, bro, when it wasn't It, I mean It knocked me out Because I was like, if this doesn't fix whatever's going on Inside of me, then I don't know what else could fix it, you know It's never external, it's always here Internal, so I had to learn that from watching other people Like, example, Rashad Evans, when he won the belt UFC 92 He said He thought it would be different But nah, it didn't feel any different He just felt, meh kind of like okay i've done it and i felt the same way so when i won the belt i was like did it feel different i was like i still feel the same because i always felt like i was the best i always said this is just a fancy tiara it comes with me just keep winning so i never chased a belt ever i've never chased a belt i've never even identified myself on my bio or to people as unless for a promo i said ufc middleweight champion but apart from that no i just i know Who I am So I never I don't The belt doesn't make me I make the belt I'm still me Look how many people Are calling me out And I'm not even The champion currently It's I'm Israel Adisoy I feel like My name has transcended The belt itself I don't need the belt To show I'm a champion Because How you carry yourself Is what makes you a champion Yeah But I'm still learning though Constantly Every day Yeah no That's what I got From the documentary too It was cool man It was inspiring It was inspiring I appreciate that It really was man Because a lot of that I could relate to too like I remember like when I was growing up I just wanted to be seen I remember you saying that at one point and it was like for some reason I just I was like I'm gonna make people see me and I don't even know what it meant or anything it was just it was like a like a lighthouse that was inside of me I just got like I wasn't a bully I just didn't get any attention now this haircut might have bullied you're like the same size just like Give me your orange wing.
16:54Look, I was feared in a lot of softball circles because of my haircut. They're like, this guy's dangerous. Yeah, yeah, this guy. This fella. But no, I think I just did. I think I just felt like I didn't want anything to define me except for me. Yeah. That was like, it was like, and I don't even know where it came from, but it was like, I didn't want to attach myself to anything. I wanted to walk to school and not take the bus. I didn't want anybody determining The only way you were going to learn about me was through me Wow That was it There was nobody else you could add It was all Especially my voice It was the only thing that I had that was mine Yeah And so it was like I'm going to use this Are you an only child?
17:34No I got three siblings But I think I felt like an only human probably Oh wow I felt like an only human A lot of like solitude growing up Yeah just a lot of like lack of connection like with family Just like felt like I was in my own World Yeah, just working freelance. Were you the oldest? No, I got an older brother. Older brother. So you're middle? Yeah, middle. But we had a lot of just addiction and people. It just wasn't like no connection. So I felt like I'm sentenced into this family, but there's no real family here. You guys didn't have dinner at the table, none of that? No, we just had fights.
18:05It was always fighting and a lot of violence. And it just didn't feel like anything. So it felt like I'm never going to let anything define me again. God got me one time with where I'm born He got me there Where's this from? I'm from Louisiana Same as DC Cormier Dustin Poirier Who else is from there? Alan Joban is from down there He's real Cajun He's a handsome fighter He's a model He used to model for Calvin Klein And then he's modeling against Calvin Katar You know, it's like, you gotta pick a path It's like, if I were that good looking I don't think I would have got in the rank, you know I mean, what did Ali say?
18:51It's a pretty one you gotta watch out for Cause you try, I mean I used to do Fashion Week When I was younger, but I think it's just cause I'm One of the only black guys out here, so it was just Yeah, I Yeah, I thought there would be Cause there's Maori people here Maori, yeah, you got it And there's The islanders as well Like the Samoans and Tongans They're the big fellas You can't get around them I had to go around the block Get around one guy Get in the orbit
19:26There's not a lot of I guess what most of the universe Would probably consider black folks Is that true? Yeah, facts Even when I first moved to New Zealand I was in a little town called Rotorua and yeah, one of the only black families there and you would have seen in the documentary. Yeah, I saw it. Definitely. Even when I went back to the creek, I used to play at. Oh yeah, so all those kids, they were amped up. Whoa! And I'm like, yeah, bro, I used to play on this creek because my house was literally right there and it's, I'm surprised it's still there. It was beautiful. But again, one of the only black kids, so people didn't understand so they'd pick on me but my way of getting around that was dancing.
20:02Dance was my, well, got my like street cred. Yeah. Oh, it was incredible, man. Watching the documentary was cool. Because one thing I learned a lot is that you like to be an entertainer, huh? Yeah. You just love it. I love it. It's fun. Yeah, because I think for me early on it was just to get people to like me. Yeah. Back in Nigeria or when I lived in Ghana for a brief, it was just my way of expressing myself. But when I moved to this country and I realized I danced better than everybody in my school, I was like, okay, that's my thing. Yeah. So then I kept on, and I tried to make people like me just so I could fit in.
20:38Oh, yeah. But again, not everyone's going to like you, and I didn't understand how to deal with that when I was 13, 14, 12. Oh, yeah. That's a nightmare. Especially if nobody's telling you how to deal with it. I'm trying to do that now with the young guys. That's so important, bro. I try and tell them, like, because I try and be honest with them. This is where I'm at in my career. This is when I was your age, I was here, and I give it to them raw. Like, let them know the truth without sugarcoating it, And then they appreciate that because then they can take from, they'll make their own mistakes, you know?
21:06Yeah. They can take from my mistakes and try not to make the same mistakes or dumb mistakes that I made. Yeah. Yeah, I think when I was a kid, I wish somebody just would have given me a little more information about what was going on. I was making up all my own rules in my head, and so then I created this own universe and checks and balances, you know? All right. Yeah. That's how I lived. This episode is sponsored by PrizePix. Do you love firing on sports? Well, PrizePix is the best daily fantasy sports app for you. You can fire on all your favorite sports like the NBA, NHL, UFC, and more. Instead of choosing teams, you choose individual players.
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23:16use code theo24 and get 50 off up to a ten dollar value when you spend twelve dollars or more after signing up for dash pass subject to change terms apply yeah yes i lived um when yeah like what was it like in nigeria do you have any memories of it kind of heaps yeah nigeria i grew up uh i was born normally think like oh it was born with a silver spoon in his mouth i was but my i still had to do chores i still this is why sometimes people try and help me iron my clothes i'm like no i got it because my dad would be like bola g come on come on iron my shirt like you know for work all that kind of stuff i did the dishes i swept the compounds you know clean up the kennel the dog kennel so i just because my parents were rich doesn't mean i didn't have to work i had to earn my keep yeah and um yeah i i learned hard work from them as well even moving to new zealand when my mom became a nurse or she was in nursing school my dad would let her sleep and her cleaning job me and him will go to the bank and clean around 4 a.m this is in rotoroa the town i was talking about around 4 a.m go and help her clean just so she can get enough sleep to go to school the next day oh that's nice that sounds like a thoughtful guy huh yeah my dad oh my dad's the best well my dad is a real g he's one of the coolest gangsters i know and i'm not talking street gangster he's just a mathematical word contract type like business gangster you know i've said this before look you know rest in peace to habib's dad he was in his corner and fighting michael jordan has his dad on the on the court so is steph curry a lot of other dads as well in football but my dad helps me off the court and i've said this again and i'll say it again and again the ufc knows what I got paid or what I get paid but they don't know what I'm worth and that's thanks to my dad oh yeah because my dad is a chartered accountant by by by trade and he just knew how to flip my money for me because every time I came back from China every time I and I had I think I came back my when I lived there I came back with six figures or five figures high five figures and then he tried to help me invest it and I was like I don't want to have a house he has too like too much responsibility because I was young and dumb and I went broke again so I realized every time I don't listen to this guy.
25:36I go broke. I should start listening to him. So as soon as I got in the UFC, I was like, right, what do I do? First thing we did, buy my first house. Yeah. And then now we've just, it's going crazy. But again, that's thanks to my dad. But who else would you rather have in your corner than has the best interest? If without him, I would have been ripped off so many times, man. Yeah. Because people, it's just in their nature. They take advantage. They see like, oh, this guy's not really paying attention. Oh, he didn't, he just signed that contract. He didn't even, shit. So I don't sign shit without my pops looking at it And then giving me the green Green light like yeah it's cool Boom cause he'll send it back with highlighted Bits amend that That's what in perpetuity No we can't have that amend that Yeah it's interesting cause sometimes you'll feel Like you trust somebody else more than you would Trust your own like kin or family You know been there yeah It's weird I don't know why that is I don't know if it's cause you grew up with them We're familiar with them yeah you wanna branch out You're like I can do this myself yeah it's probably it Nah, silly.
26:34What other, like, was there traditions that you missed about Nigeria? Because, I mean, it's to somebody, it sounds fascinating to a lot of people, you know? Yeah, there's a lot of, see, like, even now, Afrobeats has taken over the globe with our sound. I think we created Afrobeats, and that's mainstream now. Dances that we do, the way that we dress. But again, I love my people. I love my culture. It's just the government, like the greedy motherfuckers, the old ancient dudes that are still running the country, still finding ways to just rip people off and bezel money, all that kind of stuff. It happens worldwide, but it happens really bad in Nigeria.
27:16And then they're just kind of selling the country to different entities and whatnot. But in time, the young generation, the guys now who have grown up with the internet, they're the ones who are seeing the bullshit and, I guess, changing it yeah um ufc was saying that they might do their first uh start a fight center in africa how did that has to be does that feel kind of cool to you do you feel any connection to that 100 like i feel that's bro that's crazy humbly i feel like guys like myself kamaru and francis even um before sokoju paved the paved the way you know for them to do that and now Drikas Duplessis He's an African champion I would never ever Take that away from him Even though he tried To do that from us But yeah So we're paving the way For the next generation And I think I don't even think I know I've said this Once We grasp This MMA shit Once we grasp it Because I've seen The talent out there I don't Look at me I'm scrawny I'm the I keep saying I'm the runt of my people You look at guys like Kamaru and Francis There's so many of them Just walking around just rocking the streets, bricklaying mechanics.
28:27And you see them, they just brolic as fuck. Working at a pet shop. Yeah, honestly. Imagine fucking Kamaru who's going to sell you a bunny. You're like, man, you missed out, bro. You should be a fighter. But like, there's so many of them over there and they don't even have the best nutrition sometimes. They don't have the best of, you know, what we have. Oh, it's going to change the game. And now that they can see that's happened, now there's four African champions that have come from the country or the continent of Africa, sorry. It's so crazy. It's crazy. Yeah, exactly. Because the level of inspiration of like some kid laying, he sees the fight, he gets off of his brother's phone, he's watching or something.
29:01And then he lays in his bed and the electricity in his body. I get the messages all the time. Fucking like, this could happen to me. Like something could happen to me. They see that we've done it. So it's like the four minute mile. We've unlocked that in your brain. Like it's possible. Even me, when I told my parents I wanted to fight, no. Yeah, we just left a country. Yeah. So it's like, why do you want to fight? No, no, no. Because it was, my parents thought it was beneath me. They wanted me to do something that was more prestigious, like being, like my dad is an accountant or lawyer or, you know, doctor.
29:32But my grades weren't, they weren't shit. He had fighter's grades. Yeah. He had fighter's grades. Yeah. I was that guy. So I was not cut out for that. That's like Poirier, man. Yeah. He's like, I got eighth grade. He's like, actually, I did it twice, though. So I was like, well, I guess that kind of counts. I did form three twice. Well, some classes I had to repeat. But again I wasn't cut out for it My brain was always just wired differently Whenever I might be dyslexic I don't know I've never really looked into Diagnosing myself or anything Because I felt I don't want it to limit me So I just But I know the way I read words sometimes Like It It's Even when I read a book sometimes I won't get the whole thing So I have to go back and read That's why I love audio books And podcasts So I can just listen and do other stuff But Yeah Reading is a little bit weird to me, but yeah, I lost my train of thought.
30:25We were just talking about the inspiration for the kids. I mean, just like the fact that some kid could like. Oh, yeah, they wanted me to be something prestigious, but nah. I'm a dreamer. I'm a daydreamer. I could sit there, and I still do emotes as a 34-year-old. I'll just be at the gym, and you'll see me emoting, but my head is somewhere else. Oh, yeah. Same, man. I think sometimes, yeah, I got late to the emote game, I think, somehow, And a lot of the shit's still dropping off sometimes. I'll just make my own ones up. Yeah, I'm a creative person. I feel like it's just how you express yourself.
30:58This game of life, it's a game of life. It's a dangerous game of life if you make it. But I feel like you can play the game how you want to play the game. This is your avatar. This is your character. You can customize this however you want, regardless of what anyone else thinks. As long as you're not hurting anyone, unless it's signed on the contract. but just doing you it's the best way New Zealand's kind of interesting like that I think there's a lot of interesting characters here I'll take you down K Road it's just up the street somewhere Ketamine Road? Yes it could be because there's some street over here we've seen some people you gotta go you can't tell if he's on meth or yoga it's crazy on K Road it's not too bad Like in the daytime Now you get some crazies Yeah you get some I've almost been What was one A guy tried to stab me With a stapler Oh yeah This is outside the Sky Tower I finished This was probably like Six seven years ago And he was getting cheeky Or something And he spat out of here Yeah Or you might leave Yeah Try to stay with me I was like The fuck Like a stapler First of all You're homeless Where'd you get a stapler from Like what was he gonna do Like hit me with a stapler But yeah People are crazy though Yeah Drugs will make you do weird things.
32:16Yeah, I feel lucky. I mean, I went down that road, but I'm not down it anymore. That's good. Yeah, if they... Well, what's interesting, too, I think, for Africa is, say if they... If you start to get organized fighting in a place, right? And it's real organized. It almost takes the value off of the bullshit fighting people are doing for no reason. You know what I'm saying? The streets. Right. It starts to be like... If you're a street fighter, you almost feel like, I'm dumb out here because that's where at least the you know it starts to change where the focus of it is so I could see that being super helpful to like just curb a lot of that that type of violence and stuff that they have I think even even me it's been a long time since anyone's tried me in the streets because now I'm kind of known but before that when I was only known in Auckland you get people who just you know they're drunk I'm drunk on a night out they think oh this guy oh yeah you're a tough guy you're that kickboxing guy hey but i'm just like bro i'm not gonna whip your ass for free i get paid for this shit yeah i'm not even working for free yeah i'm not nah why would i whip your ass for free like it's even now my knockouts in the ufc you get a bonus 50k uh and i get paid crazy money to fight um but why would i do that for free and also if i if i hurt someone it's assault with a deadly weapon because i am a trained professional so i I don't want to put that's why I have people think I have security for me.
33:40No, it's for people for the public because sometimes people will try and get a reaction out of you. And I'm a very patient guy, as I've said, and sometimes know it. Oh, yeah. I'm glad I have them to be like, right, let's change the situation so that way I don't get in trouble for. Yeah, I've had a couple instances where it's like I needed a security person. because my perspective wasn't good. No. Like people that have come up and start filming you and they're fucking with you though. Yeah. And they're trying to get a reaction, right? Yep. And I like, yeah, one time I like, I don't even want to talk about it too much because then people are going to start doing it more.
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34:20But yeah, it was, I'm just glad. Yeah, I'm glad it just ended because it could have got bad because then you get heated and next thing you know. You're a human being. You're a man. You got testosterone and someone tries to punk you. You're like, who the fuck are you? Yeah. Allegedly, allegedly, I might have slapped a couple people. Yeah. Allegedly. Because, okay, example. I hate when they do this, man. I'm walking through a crowd and a guy just, let's go, champ. Out of nowhere, just slaps me on the back like four times. What the fuck? And I was like, bro. It's kind of like when Will Smith did that to, what's it called?
34:57Chris Rock. Not like that, but he did it to this reporter one time where he backhanded him. Because the guy tried to like, he was messing with him, tried to kiss him. He was like, what the fuck, man? Like, you know? Some of this is a reaction What are you gonna do? Well I mean They say what Hit first Or if you get Wait What do you call it Wait till you get hit Or if they fuck with you But I'm like nah I'm not Like chill song I can't let you get close I can't let Once you break that barrier That range And you seem like a threat I have to defend myself Yeah and your instincts Are so tuned to that shit That you gotta trust your instincts My friends don't scare me anymore It was funny at first But they don't scare me anymore Jump scares Cause I don't like them Oh you mean jumping out from behind the shit?
35:38No no when they try and scare me I'm very quick Oh yeah? Yeah but luckily I'm controlled with what I do But I can just turn around and pa Yeah Some kung fu shit I know Yeah watching you like it feels like you're watching like a A fucking violent drawing or something you know Damn I like that Interesting No good adjective Violent drawing You were at You know one I think my first fight you ever saw was me versus Gastelum. Yep. It was amazing. I got to meet your brother. You guys walked by in the hallway. Yeah, that's right. And I got to meet David, man. And it was. Was that when my face was all lumpy?
36:11Like a potato. Bro, that was an insane fight. Classic. One of the best fights in the history of mankind. It was unbelievable. Yeah, that fight, I think, was. And then that was also Poirier and Holloway were on that card. They fucking set it up for the co-main event. God. So then for us to have to do that at the main event. Wow. So cool Yeah If there's a fight in Africa Like the first card Is that something that you Come on Yes Definitely 100 % It should have happened a long time ago But again So many red tapes To get over Dude it would be like the Thrilla in Manila Remember that? Yeah Bro I mean it's gonna be We're going to Africa Yeah Yeah People are gonna be outside Fucking just I mean Honestly I already I've seen it I've seen this Look, I've said this many times, but the shower is the most honest place on the planet, I feel.
37:05I can just be, I'm in my birthday suit and I have the element of water running over me. So it helps me just create all this white space. And I can just go in my head and just create. And I've seen, I've predicted, I've manifested, I've made things happen in there that come to fruition. And I've seen it so many times when I get to South Africa or Morocco or Nigeria, wherever it is, the event is. when I get there and my people see me, it's just, it's mob city. It becomes, it's like that when I, last time I went to Nigeria at the airport, there was just, it was insane. The police officers, the street thugs, the area boys who were doing 419, like they all just, yeah, they fuck with me.
37:44Even the people like in the comas are fucking fucking up. The dead bodies on the road just like, oh shit, I just want you to, I'll die tomorrow. Nah, but I love, I love the love I get out there, man. I love the love I get out there. Well, the energy of that That would be crazy. And would that probably be versus DDP for the belt, you think? Yeah, Drickus. Yeah, definitely. There's some things that were meant to happen. They summoned me. They summoned me. I'm sure this is out there now. Eugene said some stuff. But they summoned me. They summoned me for 300. And I was like, yep, let's roll. But their side didn't want it.
38:18So I was like, well, fuck it. I'm just going to keep. Who, DDP's side? Yeah, they didn't want it. Wow. But they just fought Strickland. And so maybe he had a little bit of niggly injuries and stuff. But, hey, we all got little niggles and whatnot. So, yeah. But I've fought injured for the last how many fights. So that's why I took time off, just to let my body heal. And it has healed. And, yeah, I'm sure there will be more injuries. It just happens through training. Like what we do for work. I can't even imagine. It just constantly is always something. Your finger, your toe, your back, your legs, your whatever it might be, your ankle.
38:54Yeah, I hurt my neck the other day. just looking for something. Yeah. Out here? Yeah. I was just kind of looking like that and I was like, ah, fuck. Something got me. Be like that, man. Well, you're 43. I forget. Yeah, it's crazy, man. Do you train at all? What do you do? Yep, I do yoga. Oh, nice. Are you flexible? I'm about 12 miles a week. Yeah, I'm doing pretty good, man. Because on stage, I want to be able to show as much as I can. Dexterity. You're very animated. Yeah. It's real important because I like to move. And also, when you move, sometimes a new thought can come into your head because you hit emotion, and that's what keeps me inspired.
39:26That's all dancing. That's what happens. That's how you freestyle. Wow. Next movement, it just leads to the next movement, and it can create in you a thought. That's beautiful the way you put that. I didn't even realize it was like that for you as well. Yeah, sometimes I'll be like, oh, man, if I just hit that, and then it's almost like if you use your instrument, it will use you kind of in a way. And, you know, sometimes I feel that. Yeah. what about like Demetrius Johnson was talking about to beat DDP you would need you'd need to brush up on your ground game yeah I got something I got a little something do you prefer to fight guys where it's more like cause some people like to fight up top and it's fun to watch him there and some of the fights where it's on the ground honestly respect 100 % but they can be a little less exciting yeah especially for the fans because they've been there since five hours, six hours, drinking, and they're just like, God, I'm standing on my ref.
40:25I enjoy grappling. I enjoy it. I love it. But no one's been able to keep me in that position. That's the thing in how many UFC fights. And people think, oh, he's about to get exposed in this fight. It's like, that's the only person I would know, Jan. But he didn't do anything. He just used his weight. He didn't try and finish me. He didn't really try and beat me up to the last, like, eight seconds. But, yeah, he just wanted to win the round, so he kept me. He used his weight. And I wasn't really used to that at the time. That's a good point. Yeah, Costa couldn't catch. Yeah, a lot of the guys, they can't catch you.
40:57So you can't say, hey, this guy doesn't like to go to the ground. It's like, well, if you can't get him to the ground, he shouldn't lay down there and meet a guy down there. What am I going to butt scoot and be like, come on, buddy. I'm going to get you. No, I'm great on the feet, so I like to keep the fight standing. But I do enjoy the clinch. I enjoy the clinch. I enjoy the ground as well. But in the gym, it's different than in a fight. And I'm getting more comfortable on the ground in the gym, which makes me, you know, even better in a fight. But, yeah, just no one's being able to, like, take me and keep me there to see anything.
41:31Yeah. Yeah, that shouldn't be like, yeah, that's not a fault of yours. It's interesting because sometimes you'll just hear a lead. Yeah. You'll hear a lead and you'll be like, yeah, that's right. Yeah. No, I mean, fake news. It happens all the time. They just throw something out there, hope it sticks, and everyone latches onto it. And then that can just be clicks. Oh, yeah. clicks, views, attention, that turns to money for them. Is that the same in New Zealand, you feel like? Yeah, everywhere, worldwide. Now everyone got these, so everyone just thinks, people just run up on you and start filming.
42:00Like someone tried to get a, randomly, what was I doing? I was about to go fishing, so I was filling up the skis. And then a guy waiting me and watching me, I was like, you want to take a pic? Okay, let's step away from the gas pump, because it says no phone. We took a pic, and then he goes, oh, hold on, hold on, hold on. No, so, I was like, what are you doing? I'm not like a random pop-up interview. Yeah. We think you are TMZ. I wonder what made, like in our society, I guess we just see that more. Because you see like younger people do it without even thinking that it's weird. Entitlement. Yeah.
42:31It's entitlement. And I've had people even say like, oh, but you're famous. I'm like, fuck, no. I'm a human being. Like, no. Yeah. Just because, look, I've always said this, fuck fame. But I like the perks. If I had known what fame would have brought, I would have just rather been rich. you know i only wanted to get famous so i could be rich so i can have money so i can do whatever i wanted to whenever i wanted to the life i live right now so but the fame was not what i expected and i'm grateful for it but at the same time i had to i had to learn how to adapt to the newfound fame when it came oh it's heartbreaking some of it yeah i mean people don't want to hear that i know it's like people don't want to hear that a part of you disappears that you didn't even realize was about to leave and i didn't even get to write everything down that i knew about that guy yeah And that's the shit that sometimes makes me Kind of bum Like I don't know I'm not trying to sound like Self pity or anything No no no Be vulnerable Yeah there's a cost to everything You know And there's a part of me It's like man I don't even I wish I remembered a little bit more What I was like Because I really liked myself then And then now It's like a different self You almost have to learn about a new self Yeah you have to make Make peace with your new life Yes That's the thing Yeah make peace with your new life This is it now This is my life now I think I did that about two years ago because, okay, I used to love grocery shopping.
43:52I'd have my headphones in, and I'd just be blah, blah, just listen to a podcast of music. Mac or more, maybe. Yeah, you know, sliding around on the cart. That was fun. I don't do that anymore, you know, because the grocery store, you know, you just get every step. Can I get a photo? And then it becomes a meet and greet, you know, boundaries. I've had that before where people just around me, and my boy Matt was like, bro, you're just like a toy that pass around. Because people were just like, oh, my turn, my turn, my turn. And some of them wouldn't even know anything about fighting. That's the worst.
44:21And then they just want to. Who are you? My husband said something. Oh, my God. The worst is when, especially when bitches trying like, who are you? I'm like, it's all good. Don't worry about it. No, but like. Oh, that kills me. Who are you? And I'm like, baby, who are you? I don't know who you are either. It's mutual. They do it on purpose to blower you. They think it does, but I'm like, bitch, I don't give a fuck. Who are you? I'm like, well, who are you? And the thing, I actually enjoy meeting people for the first time because it's rare for me these days. So when I meet someone and they're like, oh, I'm sorry, I don't know you.
44:54I'm like, it's okay. I'm Israel. What's your name? Oh, nice to meet you. And I can actually meet them without them having a preconceived notion of who they think I am from TV or YouTube or my promos or anything like that. They can actually meet me from me face value. Right. So I enjoy that. But people think because of how they would be if they were in my position, they think I'm going to be like everybody knows me. No matter where I go, I still introduce myself. Yeah. Because it's just rude if you don't. It's weird when people don't. But, no, I agree. One of the things that I miss, I used to love meeting people.
45:28It was one of my favorite things to do because it was almost like a brand new show. You got a new chance to feel a certain way with somebody. You could brighten their day. You could do it. You could have anything. The world was All the options were there And then the fact that that's not the case Sometimes now It's a blessing I'm not saying that But it is a bummer sometimes Because I miss that thing Like oh here's a new space I get to play in You can make things up It was just fun I love that I said new people Or new countries Whenever I go there I was just in Switzerland And I met a couple new people But I was there for some work And yeah New culture New food Even the weather was muggy But I loved it I was like I'm experiencing What it's like to be in Switzerland When it's cold And I saw the sun Out of three days I saw the sun once Wow You know And the guy who even brought me there Was like yeah Last time I saw the sun Was like two weeks ago You know It's different out there But I enjoyed it I enjoyed the vibe And just meeting new people It's like This world's too big man Like we can't all just be In our own little bubble Yeah It's so important to get out man Even coming here was interesting.
46:38Coming to New Zealand. First time? Yeah. Seeing what it's like. I had no idea what it was going to be like. People were like, we don't have any snakes, you know? Yeah, we don't. Nothing dangerous. Not these kinds, but there's some snakes in the streets. Oh, like, you don't have a fucking ozone layer either. Bro. My guy, I'm telling you. When you got here, how black were you? No, I was black. I was black. Were you really? Yeah, I swear. Because I've been here. He's black. He's light-skinned now. semi-light skin. In two days, people are going to start calling me Nelly around here, I think. No, but for me, I went fishing the other day.
47:14No, this is one the other week. So I thought, you know what? I'm black. I'm protected by melanin. By God. Yeah, by God. Amen. Ordained. But yeah, for me, I don't need sunblock. But I put on my tattoos just to kind of protect them. But then my skin started peeling the next day, like my shoulders, because the life jacket was on me. So my shoulders were peeling, my neck, my face. I was like, what the fuck is this? And then someone told me, Oh, you're sunburned. I was like, what? And I was like, oh, that's right. Because in Nigeria or in the continent of Africa, we have an ozone layer. They don't have that here.
47:44So when I get hit by the sun here, it's... It's like God's not even wearing a condom out here. Act just raw. Raw-dogging you. The sun is... It's unbelievable. It's really crazy. Have you been to any beaches here yet? We're going tomorrow to maybe Waiheke? Or Waiheke Island. Waiheke Island. Okay, you'll enjoy it there. Yeah, some nice beaches there. Yeah, people are like Black sand ones People are like, you gotta get out We just got here And people are like, you gotta leave You gotta get out You need to go to Haiti It's just like, everybody wants you to leave It's like, we just got here Nah, there's some fun stuff in Auckland Auckland's fun I like the city because Yeah, what makes you stay here?
48:20My gym My gym Really? Definitely My gym, 100 % I would've been fucked up by now Like, gone So, I'm just gypsying Traveling around But my gym keeps me here Because they're my people And they're the ones that got me to where I'm at So, that's loyalty And Yeah, it's huge You got great guys over there. Dan Hooker's there. I love Dan. Is he a cool guy? He's the best. He's the best. Bro, he seems so entertaining, man. He's an asshole, but he's the best. I love him. Kara France. So many guys I'm sure that I don't know. I don't know a lot of the fighters. There's new ones coming up as well. Like Carlos is now in the UFC.
48:53Kevin's in the UFC. Even Tyson Pedro's training with us now. Tyson will be coming tonight to see the show. Oh, sweet, man. Yeah. So I can't wait for that. How was last night? How was the show? It was good. Yeah? I thought it was good. It was kind of scary because you don't know what you can say. And you don't know. You'll be telling a story and you're like, oh shit, they don't have this business. There's a relate. So now you've gone six minutes into a story. You just have to give up. You're like a senior citizen. I get the references sometimes when I like maybe even Eddie Murphy, Delarius. There was a few references I didn't understand when I watched it the first time because I was like, I didn't live in America.
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52:02Shopify.com slash Theo. So the gym keeps you here. That's huge, man. If not, I would have been gone. I would have been gypsying around. But also, my family's here. I've got siblings in Australia as well. They're gypsying around But I think the gym keeps me here And I like the fact that New Zealand's not too Grandiose in a sense Like Auckland's not so big where it's gonna take me Unless it's traffic It's gonna take me like an hour And something to get across town You know? Yeah. I don't like that In Sydney or certain Australian Territories it takes you An hour and a half to go from here to here And I'm like That's a no from me Yeah, no, I think this is a super unique place.
52:47I'll say this. It's one of the most unique places that I've been. I wish I was going to get to travel around the country more. I'm going to come back and do it again. South Island next time. That's what everybody says. And you're like, shit, I wish I would have asked anybody. Yeah, South Island. But it's great, though. Everybody's been super nice. It's interesting what people think of what life means here. It's kind of interesting, I find. It's a bit more compared to maybe where you're from. Laid back, you'd say. Yeah, they don't take themselves as serious, you know. And I think it allows for a lot more peace probably in their own world.
53:23Yeah. And a lot of individuality here. And that's one thing I could see, like, because you are like a hyper individual, it seems like. So I could see, it'd be like, oh, this makes sense. This is a very. It cultivated me in a sense because I was trying to fit in, but I wasn't meant to fit in, you know. I don't even sound like I'm from here Right Because I was influenced by TV And all that kind of stuff But Individuality here Or individualism You still get that Crabs in the back Bucket mentality Like people will try and Do that Oh people don't want you Being fancy here They don't want you Getting braces here Nah man It's kind of weird It's like hey bro Are you going to be The fucking mayor man They want you to be Like they'll try to support you I think it's worldwide But it's a weird thing With Australia and New Zealand I can't remember what the history is, but you're downplaying your achievement.
54:15A lot of humility. Yeah, but that's not real humility, though. That's bullshit. That's like saying, like, you don't want to seem bigger than yourself. Like, if I know I'm the man, I'm going to say I'm the fucking man. Like, I know who I am because I'm treated, you know, wherever I go. But they don't like you saying that outwardly here because it's not humble. But I'm like, nah, that's not, that's being fake. because I'm not really expressing how I feel. Like, example, one of the national teams will win something crazy, like the World Cup or whatever. They get on the mic, and it's like, oh, yeah, no, we did all right.
54:52Yeah, we just want to thank the Lord Jesus for it. I'm like, bro, say how you feel. Say it with your chest. Like, we fucking did it. Yeah, like, you know, like, I want people to express it. And I've said this already. There was a viral video that went when I won this Sportsman of the Year in New Zealand award, and I gave the speech, And it went viral for a while But it wasn't gonna change the culture But I'm just stating the fact I was like Being humble is when Dan Hooker punches me in the face That's real humility Because then I have to address How do I deal with that When Carlos kicks me in the leg That's real humility But me trying to Be confident But me trying to say Be subservient To make other people feel better about themselves Put it this way Even recently It's interesting It's like you don't want to be subserving it to your own spirit Yeah I know Because I'm doing myself a disservice Right Yeah So for me Even recently I realized How do I put this without seeing it seeming pompous I realized I've lived I've lived the peasant life If you put it this way I, you know I've My last time My last job was September 4th, 2013 Next day I moved to China I planned for months to make that happen I failed three times Before it actually happened I've lived that life I've lived for the weekend All that kind of stuff But then the bigger I got I still fell into that trap Where I didn't want to seem like I was too cool You know Oh yeah I get afraid a lot of times Of being proud I'm almost It's a weird thing Of almost being proud of yourself Yeah You should be You don't want people to know You're proud of yourself Yeah but I didn't want to seem like I'm too cool So I still try and Relate to the commoners If you will Like when I'm out You know I'm at a bar I'm outside Yeah I want to seem normal Yeah, and I am normal And you are But I can still walk around the street But I just know I know I'm the shit But I know I ain't shit That's like a good balance to have It's always fluctuating I know I'm the shit And sometimes I ain't shit So it's a good balance to have I think it's a good balance for anybody It is And yeah, you're right I think the society here Maybe they have a different approach to some of that And maybe some of that needs to evolve But yeah, I think it's okay to you're just learning about your own spirit and how do i navigate this no one gave me a book of being like this is how you now you're famous here's what you do nah even me sometimes i might not be in the mood i might be having a shit day the day my cat died i was having a really shit day and the guy at the gas station again was like oh my god bro bro hold up hold up bro adesanya bro can you talk to my car i'm like uh bro my cat just died this morning i don't really i'm not and he's like oh all good G I'm like and I felt bad and I was like give me the phone and then I grabbed the phone and I was talking to him I was like wait hang on nigga I'm pumping gas like fuck go away I was like bro and then I'm a bad guy forever and then that's the only story they have about me but again I'm comfortable with that now when people have a bad story about me I'm like they probably deserved it because when people bring manners and respect I reflect that back and they get more out of me I stick around with them and I even if even if I'm too I'm in a rush I still try and make people feel seen I still want to make them feel like we connected Yeah You know, just even for a brief moment Like, bro, I'm not doing photos right now I'm in a rush But I love you, I love you I love you And I just move Yeah But again, I'll try and connect with them And let them know I really appreciate you I think it's the best that you can do, man I really do I'm human Yeah I'm human And it's a crazy thing that you don't learn how to be And it's There's so many, like, nice parts about it But there's parts about it that are Especially nowadays with the viralness of things You can't ever go back Anyway, we're going to start to sound like a couple of psyched back If we keep talking about it But it's interesting The thing is, it's relatable To you and me, it's relatable because you live this life as well And I don't get to talk about this with most people That's a good point, man My friends, they can understand because they see it But most people don't get it They'll never get it because they're not in this position Yeah, I've been afraid to like, I've been afraid sometimes to get like, like I have a nice home, you know, I've been afraid to like, even go look sometimes at like a real like fancy home or something.
59:06Or maybe it had a little bit more space or a garage where I could put two cars or something, you know, like you can only put one in your garage now. Yeah, really. So I just like because I think there's a big part of me that humble. Well, it's like, I don't know who would I be. Yeah, I don't know how I who I am. If I'm in this, if you have an extra space for the car. Yeah. No, I think It's like I just I know It's So much of my life I've been able to like Like manage What's going on And it's gotten A little bit tougher For sure Over the past few years But I'm like If I had another element Then will I even Know my Like am I gonna get Further away from like No, you'll be fine Myself, I guess Knowing who you are You'll be fine You'll be able to handle Having a nicer house It's just Things are easier You know But Money would've changed me If it was going to change me It would have changed me years ago Probably about Four years ago It would have changed me If money was going to change me You get to a certain point When you make so many M's And you just like It doesn't really matter Because you're already As long as I can put a full tank of gas in I don't even check the price of gas I just put a full tank in That's when I know I'm good Like I'm good Because I remember the days When I'd be like Yo Can I get$10 on number 5 please Thank you I remember those days I did that I was me Even$5 Just$5 on number 5 please Thank you very much Appreciate that But now I can just go Phil Boom I didn't even go inside I used my card Bang That's when I know I'm comfortable And as long as I can do that I'm good Anything else is just bonuses Yeah You know It's just bonuses Like I said I would rather be rich than famous But I do I do appreciate the fame Because it brought me This life So I'm grateful When you're a good entertainer And that's one of the interesting things To see too It's like It's a blessing And it's like one of the cool things about being a good entertainer is sometimes god will even move this entertainer along so more people can see him yeah you know it's like i was interviewing this guy billy strings a couple weeks ago this guitarist and he grew up in uh michigan like in just like drug and like oh wow big drug culture like people all around him dying you know opioids everything and he has a big a tough time with like people coming to see him and paying tickets to see and stuff and and i was like but dude you don't know like the guy who's cleaning up after your show he might be listening to your music that's making him keeping his fucking day you know it's like sometimes god uses all of us as like candles i feel like at certain moments yeah we can all be used at any moment any given moment i feel you need another water i'm good for now okay for now yeah now you're you're a guy you're great on the mic so you've definitely been a vessel you know at times yeah i think that was how i actually became a fan of you wasn't just your comedy it was it was it was um one clip if you probably scroll up to our first conversation i would i would have sent it to you it was something of you being vulnerable on the mic and i think you even got teary and i was i related to what you said and i was just like and that's when i dm'd you and i was like oh this guy follows me so i followed you back and then talked like bro i really appreciate you being this vulnerable i can't remember what it was but i felt that i felt that i think even burke christian same thing he was talking to tom and talking about his daughters and something and how he feels like he's not doing enough and whatnot yeah and i was just like that shit hits me bro i'm a softy man oh yeah i'm a softy i'm i'm like i'm hard as fuck because look what i do for a job but i am a softy like oh my heart's strange sometimes some something will just hit me and i'm just like yeah oh i see two people hug at an airport and i just start or somebody waiting with flowers for somebody to come I'm like those moments man yeah I'm crying in the handicapped no it's interesting well I don't think I started to evolve like I got into recovery from drugs and alcohol like probably six years ago and that's when I started for the first time in my life before that I'd been kind of was it bad bad?
1:03:08it wasn't crazy bad but it was getting like a little bit you were just living your life Yeah, but it was like I didn't, I wanted to have some cocaine sometimes. So I got afraid to have a beer because I was worried I would have cocaine. One leads to the other. Yeah, and I never had a drinking problem, but I was just, if I do have a beer, then if somebody has cocaine, I'm done. Even me right now, like, so I lost my license because of this DUI. Oh, you got a DUI? Yeah, I know. First one. But it was a silly mistake. I had dinner, two cocktails. It's out now. But then there was some reports. I couldn't speak about it then because there was still an ongoing court case.
1:03:41But then there was reports coming out saying he was two times over the legal limit and all this. And there's no excuse. I just, if I'm going to go out, out, I have people to drive for me. But this was just dinner and two cocktails. So I was.07 over the legal limit. And everyone else that they've had this and they've had their license. They were like, how come you weren't in court? All I got was a fine. And I'm like, yeah, but you're not me. This New Zealand media finally got me. So they wanted to guard him. They want to parade him. But I handled it well. And shout out to the judge for being kind and thoughtful and could see this is just a silly mistake that this guy can learn from.
1:04:18He's done more good than, and this doesn't take away from that. So I'm grateful for that. But even me at the moment, I haven't drank since, fuck, last year. Oh, really? Yeah. I just, look, I went, I had this procedure done with, uh... Stem cells Last year And then I was like You know what I want my body to heal properly So I just kind of stained Yeah keep all the negative toxins out Exactly And I started I have one of my boys Who's a chef for 13 years He works for me now He Fuck Every day I eat Is a culinary experience One of the best investments I've made in the last four years Really? I love it Oh my god Fuck buying All that kind of shit Like get a chef It's the best If you love food And you can afford it Get a chef Holy shit Oh damn It's the best Every day You can make quesadillas and everything His phrase I can cook anything Oh my god He can cook anything So for me I would have something I would have probably Fish at night I think we're gonna have Horse maybe sometime In two weeks I'm gonna try some Horse tacos Bro they got reindeer In damn Sweden Yeah I was at a restaurant They pull up with The fucking R deer bro I live in China I didn't question Too many things I ate there But I ate some things Yeah I ate some I know I've eaten donkey I don't know if dog or cat I can't remember I've eaten pigeons Eating alligator Oh yeah My buddy just got a read on some Penguin meat Damn What would that be like Because it's fluffy feathers And then it's I guess insulation And then meat Would it be lean No they're fat They're fat They're blubber They'd be a little bit of marbling Yeah Kind of a marbled chicken It's a bird Yeah it might be a marbled chicken Like a steak chicken Yeah Or do you have to cook it medium rare Or do you have to cook it all the way through I don't know I hope it's headless the head looks too cute that's the thing i think their their pr is so cute you're like happy feet yeah yeah you're like damn people sorry happy feet yeah they're the damn french bulldogs of the of the north you know actual yeah they kind of look like that without the face yeah so maybe i don't know but i'm i gotta email him back but um so when you do look at like so you've had some time off and stuff when you was it like did you want to recalibrate what you because you've you've gotten to achieve your dreams, right?
1:06:36Yeah. And there's something - Over and over and over and over again. Yeah. Like, I mean, it's unprecedented. You know, like you've mastered what you set out to do. So then it's interesting because now you're a master who's already achieved everything you can achieve. In the game. But there's still more that I want to do for myself. Right. That's what I guess I'm wondering, like, how does that, how do you start to separate those two? And what is that even, you know, like - I haven't mastered the game yet. I'm still learning every day. Even right now, we're working again on my jab because I'm changing it up now because there's so much footage on me.
1:07:11People can watch the smart coaches and they can kind of game plan. Like my question mark kick was fucking everyone up early on. Got to like maybe after the Robert Whitaker fight, maybe the Romero fight. No, Costa fight. Actually, Costa avoided it, but he fell for a different kick. So from that fight, people kind of like know the question mark's coming, so they're all scared of it. My jab was vicious. It still is, but I'm just bringing it back. I'm tuning it up again. So it's constant evolution, constant learning every time. And my grappling as well. I want to show it off. I do want to show it off in the cage.
1:07:44I did a little bit in my fight with Alex in New York. A little bit. You want to more. So you still have things you want to do. Fuck yeah. Oh, wow. Fuck the belt and all that. It's more about highlights. Yeah. For me, I'm a highlight guy. Yeah, I know. That's what's interesting. It's like, that's what I was wondering. I was like, does he miss some of the trash talking and just the fucking, you know, like. When it's raw, when it's honest, yeah. Like, me and Costa, it was good because I didn't like the guy. He didn't like me. Barraccino, is that his name? Barraccino. I didn't. Barraccino. Whatever.
1:08:16Yeah. So, again, like, he's a guy that when I fought him, and, again, I had a lackluster performance against Romero because he didn't want to engage. So people were like, oh, fuck him. And it was, I have the most exciting title fight in history and the most boring title fight in history. I do it all But after that fight People were talking shit Like oh This and that Right or right or right He's a boring fighter And it's weird I see it now They just forget They forget And I'm like bro I gave you so much classics So quick people forget man Yeah but then For me when that fight Came about I didn't like him And he reminded me Of every jock I had Oh yeah I remember He was very You know Good looking Oh yeah Just very muscular Conditioner Yeah oh bro And he was talking so much to everyone And then the streets was like He went three rounds with Romero He went three rounds with Romero I was like yeah I went five rounds with Romero But he didn't do shit I was like I can't watch this So when I fought him I remember I was dialed in bro I was dialed in After the show we went to a bar I think we were in Indiana somewhere We were in the Apex Fight Island I took him out I took him for a ride I took his virginity as well.
1:09:32Nah, he didn't touch me once apart from in the legs. I did. I've seen that. Yeah, and he just approved 100%. Well, it's also in some cultures it's more. It's dominance. It's more appropriate too. Yeah, but I mean like for me, I just felt it was the most dominating thing I could do to him because he was in that position. Yeah, in Brazil, being gay is just like two guys dancing. Yeah, or just dancing. High five, you know. Oh, so they'll have some high fives that'll last a long time. Look at the technique. Look at the squat on the man. Oh, that's crazy, bro. You stupid dude. Raw dogged him. It was good.
1:10:02Raw dogged. Heartbreak. It was a good time. I enjoyed it. No regrets. What did you think of his fight with Whitaker? It was a good fight. I liked it. I liked his jab in that fight. Yeah. I was like, okay, he came back. But man, that end of the first round, when you rocked him with the wheel kick. Yeah. Woo. Did not expect that. And then, again, at the end of the round, so he got saved by the bell. Came back, and Whitaker just outgutsed him. He just outgutsed him. I thought it was close. Yeah, same. I thought maybe Costa might have won. I felt he might have won, but then when they gave it to Whitaker, I was like, huh, okay.
1:10:33Well, it wasn't a robbery, but I thought Costa probably had it. But yeah, he was good. He looked good in that fight. He wasn't the same after this. Everyone keeps telling me that. You ruined that, man. Really? You think that? I don't think after that fight, he wasn't the same. He was on a run. He had this. I'll tell you this. You look at the fight. You look at the first round, the way he looked at me, and then you look at the second round when he's like, like you see his face, the demeanor changed. I love those moments. You take their soul away. You just know like this guy knows he doesn't want to be locked in here with me.
1:11:07It's like during a video game, but their controller's gone. Yeah. Bad dream for him. Bad dream for him. So it's like, yeah, I like that moment. But yeah, I like the guy. He's funny. He's, I think he's an entertainer. He's good on Twitter. He's got a secret juice, secret juice and all that. It's fun. there's so many that's one thing I was wondering do you miss sometimes just in the past year being off or so do you miss some of the entertainment like cause there's been a lot of like the trash talk and everything is that kind of like you know like Strickland so ridiculous like him and MGK arguing like that shit is it's hilarious though like do you laugh at some of it like I didn't really pay attention to it I was like oh Strickland I mean Strickland you put him in public it's a different story Yeah.
1:11:55Yeah, he's always got something to say, man. Yeah. Is that a fight that you feel like you want to go? Oh, 100%. Yeah? 100%. Come on, man. I don't know. I don't know what, like, if guys get, like, I care about going and revisiting that. Not because of the fight, but just because you care or not care. So, for me, when Pereira beat me, he beat me the first time. I went to Brazil. He beat me, knocked me out. And I didn't chase it. I was like, you know what? I'm done with kickboxing. And then he said he got motivated Because he saw me You know talking about him And then decided I'm going to go MMA and chase this guy And he did And then got to the UFC They fast tracked him He got to me They did fast track him Yeah I mean it is what it is I don't blame them It was a fault Look at what we have now We have classics So he beat me in almost similar fashion In the way I was beating his ass And then in the last round He just had that spirit And just something behind him some kind of shinigami, he just came and just beat me.
1:12:54And I was just like, fuck, again? How is this guy? And then I let it go. And then I just knew this is the last one. Like, after this, I'm done with this guy. But I have to get him now. I have to get him now. And in that moment, when I got it done, I got it done. It took me six years. And then I went after his kids, too. I was like, yeah, where you at? Because I'm a petty motherfucker. Sometimes you want to just let the lineage know what's up. Of course not. Because you don't want their kid fighting your kid at school or something. Yeah, I won't even go to the same school. But the fact is I had to teach this kid a lesson because of what they did prior.
1:13:27And this took me, what, six years to accomplish. With Strickland, it wouldn't take me that long. Let me just get through DDP first. Let me handle it. I look to the next fight. I look ahead like a little peek at the future, but I don't try and focus on it. And I just know the Strickland fight will come back around. And I'm in a good place now health-wise, mentally. and I know exactly what happened in that fight that just wasn't for me. He's a great fighter. He's also a good champion. What a reign. I mean, he did what he did. Strickland? Yeah. But I mean, he did what he did. Everybody can beat me up.
1:14:04I shouldn't laugh at any of this. No, but I mean, he did what he did. Look, even the way he beat me, it was spectacular. It was his moment. It was his moment. Yeah. Like sometimes Dave Chappelle said something in this Dreamer special. He said, oh, how did he put it? Hold up. I have it saved here. I have it saved here. Give me two seconds. I'll play it right now. In five, four, three, two, one. And that's the trick to life. You have to be wise enough to know when you are living in your dream. And you have to be humble enough to accept when you're in someone else's. They said that in this new special I think Dreamer And I felt that And I was like yeah Because look Life is a game I would use this moniker of player one And even people sometimes think Oh he's so narcissistic He thinks he's player one I'm like Don't you?
1:15:07Are you a bot? Like everyone can grab the controller And play the fucking game But most people don't I'm sure you see it Most people just go through life just on the programming. They just go with the flow, whatever. It's good to go with the flow, but whose flow are you going with? Oh, yeah. So for me, I had to like pause and question everything. And I realized that was his night. That was his night. He just fought the perfect fight. No matter what, I made no excuses. I gave it to him. But again, like I say, I'm a patient motherfucker. I take my time. I reassess. and yeah, I go for what I want.
1:15:46But you still feel a real fire for it. Oh yeah, of course, yeah. I mean, even the way, look, I had bars ready, but I just, the way he reacted when DDP mentioned some of his stuff, his trauma, I was like, oh, yeah, that let me know something. Again, even, look, that moment you guys had was beautiful. I'll say that, that was beautiful because I'd never seen him like that. Like after the fight, he's crying because he's so like, what the fuck? I just, I clocked it. And I was like, as a joke, I was like, hey, you're crying like a bitch. He kind of laughed. I was like, come here, whatever. But then when he was talking with you and then you guys kind of got really vulnerable, I was like, man, no kitsch.
1:16:25I have to go through that. Yeah, it's heartbreaking. Yeah, it was heartbreaking to even see that. But again, look, I'm a human being and I can connect with people on a human level. But it doesn't mean I'm not going to get you. I'm not going to Look I even said this About Silva Look just because I'm a fan Doesn't mean you can't Catch these hands You know Silva was my Michael Jordan Of this fucking game And I was just like I thought I would Never fight him And then the opportunity Presented itself And I was just I had this trip planned For Amsterdam France All this kind of stuff And then The opportunity came And I was just thinking Like I got to do it I have to do it And I did it And it was a beautiful fight beautiful way to like i wish he stopped after that i wish maybe he moves to boxing after that because he even he said to me in the case like i passed the baton to you and just kind of like bless me all these words and i'm there like like just crying you know for me because that was never meant to happen oh fuck it was never meant to happen but it happened and i even have it framed in my house we're fighting on this chest piece like a chess board because that's what the fight was and i hit him with that rock lee stance from naruto and he's standing there like gara it just looks so cool like that fight was electric it was beautiful just a master just a masterful way to play the game from two taijutsu masters if you will yeah there's a composer element to you that i think is really interesting because it's like and that's why i wonder about like yeah does he still love like what does he want to do with fighting just because there's a lot of options in life yeah And sometimes creativity can flow and just, you know, you can decide like, I've, you know, what else do I want to fucking, you know, be an actor?
1:18:11Do I want to, you know. I'll act. I've already like turned down a few roles, a few high profile roles because I wanted to make sure I focus on fighting. That's the one thing I wanted to focus on was fighting. I don't ever want to get sidetracked and look at something else. Yeah, that's too much. Yeah, because I know what I can focus on. And then if I do, then things can get squirrely. So I'd rather not Yeah dude If you were like a fighter pilot Or something You're so sick Or if you were like in a war Like in a war movie Yeah But I wouldn't say it I wouldn't say I'll say it after this But like But yeah I'm definitely gonna have You know I already got ties in Hollywood Like people wanna work with me Which is cool And I do my own stunts I mean Save money Yeah Don't say See I like what you're thinking Yeah save money I do my own stunts You don't have to get a stunt double um but also i'll have my own production company and i will like maybe make some some characters like some anime or just have weird ideas bro like sometimes i'm i don't know how to write a screenplay but i'll get someone who can i can just vomit words at them and they can just put it in a way that's digestible for tv or netflix or you know a crunchy roll or whatever yeah style bender studios i mean style bender is such a great it's like the greatest moniker honestly in a lot of ways because there's just so many you don't even know what it is but you know what it is yeah i got it from even they just dropped the live action uh the avatar series the last airbender just dropped yesterday oh yeah i saw new zealand i'm gonna watch it tonight but um for me i when i was watching that i i i love that show i grew up on that show so for me i got the name because i I felt in this realm, I want to master all the elements of martial arts and realize my destiny as the avatar.
1:20:02And I felt like I was the one. So I have. And I'm still doing it. And now, you know, the middleweight division needs me again. So it's all about the story you're telling yourself. The bad signal. Yeah, exactly. Like, what story are you telling yourself? This is the life we live. And most people don't. They just kind of go with the flow. You're so true. because that shapes your perspective and then your perspective that's the huge ingredient that I think so many people that have that I didn't realize for years is that perspective because even me now six months without driving I'm like oh well I'm saving gas for six months and then while I'm not driving I'm busy doing other shit making shit happen so I just flip it around in my head so that way it's more tolerable was it when you got when you got to walk out with like fury What was that fight you guys walked out with?
1:20:53Oh, Ngannou, yeah Oh, bro What was that like? It was like three kings back together That was beautiful That was a moment I'll tell you one thing I'm very laid back Like, contrary to popular belief I'm very laid back But for me I wish I dressed a little nicer for that walkout It still looked good We still had our moment But like, I kind of wore It's chic, like, low-key Like, just, it was too low-key for the moment The look There's other outfits I've worn That I'm like I've got to still Wore my slides And like Have that moment Like it was beautiful Like you know Three kings But regardless We just looked epic Walking together And Francis Just the Adonis That he is Just His story itself Is bananas Like if you know His history You've listened to it On JRE and what not The way He's come up now And now he's doing this When people said He wouldn't do this Yeah Making crazy money Crazy money So I'm happy for him Even Mike Tyson right there It was a moment bro It was a moment for Just for history I love that These are moments for life I would never forget These moments man Yeah it's crazy I mean it just It's almost like You could never even Understand what's going on You know Yeah that's so cool Yeah see Kamaru Was dressed with that I kind of had a similar Outfit that I was in mind But then I was like Nah It's his moment Francis So I kind of wanted to chill I think it was fair You pay homage to him You're like I'm gonna dress down This is about looking at him But then I still think for moments like that Next time Israel don't be so Again another moment where I was like I shied away from shining But again regardless if I was dressed With a fucking headdress or whatever He would have shined in that moment Because it's his moment So I just wanted to make it about him When you see stuff like this Like fights like this Do you get tempted when you see these guys fighting Like Jake Paul's mom and stuff like that Like fighting like Kid Leroy or whatever Like there's always this shit on the line Nah You mean like the The boxers That everyone wants to box now Yeah there's always like A Care Bear fighting Like Sneeko Or something You know like Every week there's Somebody's like fighting Like drawing of Somebody's grandparents It's good for the sport I think it's good for boxing Because look Look what it's done for But also Shout out to his ex And I see Turkey The guy that Organized all this He Has lit a fire In the combat sports world In a sense Step it up Bro They've been sitting on How much money of oil money like just crazy amounts just disposable income like cost and even the ad there was an ad for Fury and Yusik and they had all these mainstream Hollywood actors and actresses in it and I'm like because they just have the money huh just here but that's good for the game because now they forced Vegas you know everywhere else to like raise the bar so it's good competition is good yeah this ad insane hey, look at the production.
1:23:49And this is an ad for a boxing fight. Wow. Yeah, and they pulled out. But, you know, the fight will still happen later in the year. I think they've rescheduled. But, yeah, like this is. Is that Clint Eastwood? Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Jesus. For an advert. And he's not cheap. No. Not for acting, but, yeah. Oh, wow. So you're saying that they have all this money. It's just like they're doing with Live Golf where they're like. Yeah, so they bought that as well. So for me, I've been invited now three times to Saudi Arabia. And each time I went back, it just felt like it was more. They were doing more.
1:24:27With the next seven years, eight years, it's going to be bigger than Dubai, I think, or like the UAE. Or match them for like tourism. Because now they just even lifted the alcohol ban. They had, yeah, I think it was in the last year or this year, they lifted the alcohol ban. You can drink there now. Now, I haven't been back since you can, but apparently you can. That's going to change everything It will It will invite more people through And then there's more buildings going up Every time I go over there So yeah Are you impressed by it over there? Fuck yeah I am very impressed Also one thing The culture I like the culture over there They've preserved their culture still Even as the landscape moves into the 21st century A little bit more And invites the world into the Even in Dubai and Abu Dhabi They still You see the culture is heavily present there And I respect that I love seeing that when you go to a place So it's not too, I guess Westernized I agree McDonald's or whatever, all that kind of stuff You still see essences of their culture everywhere Which is good And I feel like over there they've done that heavily Saudi Arabia will allow First alcohol sales in 17 years Dividing opinion Can you zoom in on it a little bit?
1:25:37The news that Saudi Arabia will allow Go down a little The news that Saudi Arabia will allow Now, its first alcohol shop has citizens and foreigners alike mulling one question. Is this a minor policy tweak or a major upheaval? Sources familiar with the preparations for the store disclosed details of the plan on Wednesday. Located in the capital's diplomatic quarter, the store, it looks like one store will be accessible only to non-Muslim diplomats. Yeah. What's a diplomat? That's, I don't know. I'm not really political enough to know what that is. But all it takes is one. That's a Trojan horse.
1:26:10I mean, kind of like medical marijuana. that was the gateway now now it's gonna be a bunch of people just doing fireball on camels I love fireballs a bunch of people on camels doing fireball yeah what's your drink of choice when you drink when I drank I liked beer I think and I like sometimes like a dang like a pina colada sometimes like a Captain Morgan and Coke like something I'm a sweet tooth guy but my standard is bourbon and coke but I like a sweet cocktail I love a sweet cocktail Look, beer My dad used to distribute Guinness All over West Africa when I was a kid What do you mean he would distribute?
1:26:49Like he was part of a group that would Trucks, trucks all over West Africa Cargos And we had so much in the house And one time I was like, maybe six or seven Can I taste that? He was like, yeah, sure And I did not touch alcohol From that point till one time I think I was 18 Maybe a little bit heartbroken and then hanging out with my boys. And I found Woodstock, bourbon, and Coke. And then when I first got drunk, it was at this park with my boys, I realized why, like, this is why that girl outside the party's crying. This is why that guy wants to fight everyone. This is why that guy wants to, because it opened my eyes to understand what being drunk was like.
1:27:32But, yeah. It's so interesting, man, because one thing that's interesting, I think about you, man, and this is a judgment, but you are yourself, but you also are able to watch yourself be yourself. And some people, it's something that we all need more of. Self-awareness. We have to find ways to get it because I think it used to be the crux of a human being. You had a relationship with yourself that was evolving constantly. A lot of the greats like Marcus Aurelius and stuff, not only would they learn something, but then they would sit there with what they learned and develop a relationship with it.
1:28:08You know, like, what have I learned here? What does this mean to me? What am I getting from this? What is this serving me? Do I need to let go of this? Right. I'm constantly questioning even things that I've been told. That's interesting, bro. No, not, not. I think just living life and, okay, example, when I was young, Sunday school, I remember, you know, you learn about God made the world in seven days and this and that, right? Yeah, Paul. Yeah. And then for me, I remember asking the question to my Sunday school teacher. I was like, well, if God made the world, who made God? And then no answer.
1:28:43Just kind of like, what? And then I asked my parents, asked the housemaids, my aunties. And then eventually one of my aunties was like, if you keep asking that question, you'll go mad. And then I kind of thought like, I don't think they understand. I don't think these motherfuckers understand what's really going on. So it made me question, you know, what they tell me. and over time through life, I've had moments when I've done stuff and I'm just like, why did I do that? Why did I feel that way? And then again, I call it like you identify the monster that you can kill it. So once I identify the feeling of, you know, maybe envy or anger or sadness, I'm like, why am I feeling this way?
1:29:20And I can backwards engineer it or something. So go into that a little bit because I think that's important, man, because I think a lot of people deal with that. So say if somebody's kind of going through that, like what kind of process are you kind of talking about? Okay, so example, say, okay, it takes a skill to be happy for someone. And I've noticed this because when I was younger and growing up in NZ, the culture kind of caught me a little bit where if someone's doing well, you know, it might look like, because I noticed myself, one of my friends, old friend, I noticed myself, like, distancing myself away from him because he was doing so well.
1:29:58And then I realized I was like wait hang on Because I was like this is my boy Why am I Why am I feeling this way Why am I feeling like I'm jealous of him When he's not doing anything to me And I've seen people do it to me as well The bigger I got it kept on getting People would start oh it must be nice type shit You know And then you see them start to treat me differently So for me I noticed myself starting to treat him differently And distance myself from him So I pulled the brakes Sat with it for A few weeks probably And just kind of Identified like Why I should be happy for him And it takes a skill To learn that And then becomes Your second nature over time Once you become like Reps, reps, reps, reps Because to learn To be a hater Was just natural In the environment I was in So I had to learn Nah, that's not the way I want to be So you can unlearn Behaviors as well Even as I get older Things Things Even women I have to unlearn Certain behaviors And be like Yeah, you have to know Like this is maybe approaching it being more honest or being more communicative and all that kind of stuff you have to unlearn unlearn and constantly learn new ways of being um when you uh when you look at the ufc today like who really kind of um excites you like are there guys you're like oh this is fun i like this storyline like um are you able to get a different look at it being away from it a Thing is, before the UFC, I watched everything.
1:31:26I would watch all the embeddeds, all the countdowns, all the shows they have on the UFC websites. I would watch everything. But then, even when I was in it, I was watching everything. But then over time, I'm starting to understand sometimes the way maybe Nate and Nick Diaz feel because you've done so much for this game, you've put so much in this game, and then you still feel sometimes disrespected and then you're just like man fuck this shit like fuck this game but i because i don't remember the last time i watched the countdown i don't remember the last time i watched i don't even watch the embedded anymore i've kind of like it's played out to me in a way but i was watching it when i was coming up and that that helped me a lot because when i got to the ufc it was uh i just knew what to expect i was like oh yeah i've seen this before oh i see yeah because at that point you're also surveying this like at the stage so you know like I know where the camera's here I know where to look up right there this is why I have these moments man these people think it's all like not a chance nah I have these moments because again the shower I operate there and I just know like example the speech I gave after I knocked out Alex I remember being in the shower visualizing winning in Miami and just like because I put myself I immersed myself because of my imagination in that moment and I remember feeling so happy and in that moment I was just like I just, fuck, I just want everyone to feel how happy I am.
1:32:51And that's all I wanted to say. Yeah. And then the rest came vessel. I was just like, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I just said what I said. And people fuck with it. And it became this moment. And I'm glad I became that moment because people still, to this day, it's like, man, you made me feel so happy. I remember that speech and this and that. And when I speak from the heart, I feel it hits people. Because I'm trying to connect. we're all human beings no matter what like you just when you speak from the heart i can touch people man i don't know if it's my mom says it's a gift but my mom's supposed to say that but so funny yeah not supposed to say that but no you're right it's tough to even trust our own mom yeah but like i i think from doing it over time now with reps even one of my my boys is uh i was one i was a groomsman at this wedding i didn't write for the speech i just spoke from the art and I was like man I killed that shit and yeah it's you know it's a skill in a way but at the same time might be a gift but who knows we're all gifted we just have to tap into it and you get more practice with it you've gotten practice over the years after fights after fights in China people speak English yeah I just said whatever I wanted you got 40 reps over there nobody even watched I'm gonna go back man that's the thing because people actually they like they make a joke of it not my time in china but i'm grateful for those times man like china man adventures really like unicycles and stuff like what are you talking about talking like adventures fuck i don't this is a worldwide internet thing but uh adventures like say just after fight okay so me and me and my one of my teammates blood diamond we kind of had each other's back in china he's a zimbabwean guy And so we'd be living At one point we were in Henan province Zhengzhou And we were just outside the city At this camp That was our base After a fight We'd come back to the camp You know, wherever we are And I traveled to so many places in China Some places I can't even pronounce I don't even know I forgot I'd go straight from the hotel Fight, fight, hotel, airport But then we'd get back to our base And then we'd take a weekend away Just to go to the city Which is like 40, 30 minute drive Boom get a hotel go out there and they they like foreigners in their clubs because it looks like the club is more popping so we just get given free booze black label johnny walker you know sit down and have have a time oh some things i can never say on the camera but we had some good fun in china oh the hotels over there the the the the whoo they they massages all that it was it was a good time but i oh again i i fought i was there for maybe 10 months i fought about 24 25 times one of those months i fought every weekend because i had four fights that month and i had two knockouts but i was fighting constantly and it just elevated me because it's reps i'm fighting you know i'm training with these guys and they spar hard over there the chinese you ever want they spar hard and sometimes well back then they were still in the mindset like to train your chin You have to So it did stand in Yeah Which is Not really the smartest Well the Russians do What's that clip with Do we have that clip with the Russians Have you seen this kind of stuff Yeah It's like Sambo Yeah it's like instead of fiber They use this thing Oh no he's gonna hurt himself Oh what the fuck What in the Kama Sutra Let's go Oh What the fuck What the fuck is that Is that punishment That's gotta be punishment That's torture.
1:36:31Now this is training, bro. This is what it makes him stronger. They're trying to separate the man from himself. Jesus. It kind of looks fun. But at the same time, he doesn't have a shadow anymore. Rip the solar pot. Wait, what is that training for? I need to know. The Russian fitness training method. Pravelo is still used in many boxing gyms today to increase strength and punching power. Can you look it up too? Okay. I'm trying to even see what the physics is. How would you? So, do you have to restrain yourself? I don't understand. Well, I guess if you let yourself sag, if you have to pull on all the ropes and hold your core.
1:37:08Yeah, like Samson. Maybe that's something. Yeah. I have to ask my strength coach because that's why I have someone who's smarter than me. I wouldn't ask anybody about that. That looks like some torture. He might be like, that's a good idea. Let's add that to your regimen. I don't want to see Gene setting that up for you. Is that your coach, Gene? No, Eugene. Yeah. Yeah, he's my... And he goes by Eugene. Yeah, Eugene, yeah. Yeah, sorry. No, he's good. I just call him, yeah, a lot of names. We call each other a lot of names. Yeah, yeah. Well, you guys have had a long relationship. Yeah. From your little machine build, strength, mobility, the old-fashioned way, stretching out.
1:37:42Yeah, let me see a little bit more of that. I'm intrigued. I'm straight... Because you could just tie... Like, there was a torture method back in the medieval times where you can, like, tie a guy to this horse and his upper body to this horse. and then they just like hit the horse and then they separate so maybe that could be an old school version but that was a way to kill people torture them yeah it works to stretch and strengthen the internal framework of joints tendons and ligaments as well as improve mental clarity and ability to work under stress okay by stretching all the connective tissues and removing knots like the fascia okay pravilo practice increases blood flow to the entire body i bet it's definitely Yeah, I mean, if it's, you know, the Russians are pretty good at sport.
1:38:25So, yeah. And what do you do? It looks like your wife's mad at you. I thought I was about to get 10 lashes or something. Next minute. Damn. It kind of looks fun. That's heady. I'm crazy. So, I like crazy shit. So, while I wasn't fighting, I took up other things. Like, okay, September. I feel like when you're not fighting, I feel like you're in Zelda Breath of the Wild. I. That's what it's like, I think, from a fan's perspective. man. Like not playing the game, literally. I know. But you're in the, like I can do anything. Like I'm, I've got money, I've got a passport. Fucking go anywhere. But for me, I took up things like golf.
1:39:04Golf's my new favorite pastime in a way because I like it because it's soft. It's a bit more slow paced. People say, oh, what about tennis or something? I'm like, something soft. Something that's true because my life is chaos When I'm in the gym Mother is trying to kill me All the time Working out cardio Strength So then When I'm on the golf course I mean I'm not trying to even flex But I got pretty good No I want to see it I can't believe it I got pretty good In about How many months Let me say I got pretty good I'll send you guys This clip as well I got pretty good In about Five months So this is me now It's not bad Look at the hips on them It's clean bro Yeah Yeah.
1:39:49Wow. We're even like the last one. This is my final one. I was like, you know what? There's a lot of great golfers from your country. Yeah, from Nigeria. Oh, no, from New Zealand. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. See, I sent that shit to the moon. I sent that shit to the moon. I was like, ah. And look, again, emotes. This is how I live my life. I sent it. Yeah. Because when you're a kid, you be doing shit like this. Yeah, you do, huh? Bro, I'm a Power Ranger when I was a kid. I was a Ninja Turtle. I was action man Like you can be anyone you want I was a busboy for Halloween I was like shit I was like Yeah A busboy I was like hopeful Like yeah Like we had a lot of like Low hopes in our area I didn't really have the costume But in my mind I was legit a power ranger I was always the black ranger Either him or the red ranger That's fair But yeah What was I saying before Before I got on this tender of golf Yeah so I like golf Just because it's something different And who do you play with?
1:40:47Golf? Yeah, you just go by yourself? Oh, my homies. Oh, go to the driving range. But like last time was Slava, Joe Hopkins, and my boy Matt, and this other guy, Jackson, I believe. Oh, some local guys? Yeah, my friends. Oh, nice. Slava and Joe are fighters as well. Joe still fights. Slava is just a big-time businessman now, but he just likes to hit the golf sticks once in a while. It's fun. Yeah. You golf? Yeah, I like to golf. I'm not good at it, but I do like to do it. Yeah, I would say I'm coachable. I'm very, very coachable Because I'm the guy I like the details Because at first I used to do this I was this guy So I would like Yep And then I'd strike it down And man It wasn't until This guy What's his name?
1:41:32Daryl I believe Out South Auckland At the airport There's a golf A driving range over there He told me like I've watched your videos mate See the way you When you set up your kicks You know And he explained to me And showed me my hip faint And said like That's the way And then from then I got to this Where it's like My bad And from there I can get that in there So once he Once he told me that You can fix the frame Sorry Once he told me that Then I was like Bing And that's That's the dad Started ascending And I was like Ooh I'm getting this shit now But now it's about learning What face of the club I want to hit with So I can Determine which way The ball goes If I wanted to go A bit to the right Or to the left Cause right now goes to the right at least 60 65 percent of the time oh yeah that's what i'm doing okay yeah i'm constantly and i'm okay maybe change the club face so the details of it intrigues me and again it's slow pace and it just gets in my brain so i sunk my teeth into that last year i went skydiving first time first time did it in uh abu dhabi and that was dope it was fucking sick no way who'd Did you go with other fighters or no?
1:42:43Nah. Devin Haney was there, actually. He did it right after me. Yeah, the boxer. And then, yeah. Dude, that's crazy. It's fun. I can't believe you've never been. Nah. And you only have to do it seven more times. I can go by myself. So there's a place. That seems like a bad idea. No, no. I'm going to do it. You are? Yeah. Oh, bro. So even, okay, bro, this is me. I'm already even, I've got a motorcycle riding lesson on Saturday. And again, my mom's a nurse, so she's already told me, nope nope oh because she's seen the worst yeah a lot of the organ donors are come from motorcyclists that's what i've heard you could do pink slips with strickland if you guys oh does he ride oh he does ride motorcycles that would be crazy but somebody would get i'd rather fight him yeah i'd rather fight him yeah do what we do the man dance i want to do a man dance but um yeah so for me skydiving motorcycle riding i might get into that unless i get talked out of it but um yeah something that just gets me going that's why for me i know when i'm done with this game at least every few months i need to do something that'll make me feel like i'm about to die like something scary something that makes me go fuck like this is this is happening this is legit this is real shit i could die in this so why is that so important you think to people i think it's for me i'm an adrenaline junkie really yeah i'm an adrenaline junkie i've accepted that about myself um and i think you just i i even alex spoke about it after his islam fight where he said like you know just sitting around like you you know you need to do something you need to do something and i felt that a lot of fighters felt that so for me that's why i say giving me free time with what i have now can be a bad idea but i'm glad that i'm older now a little A lot wiser A lot wiser Now I'm surprised I don't have any babies Out there Well that I know of Maybe in China But we'll wait Another We'll see We'll see But like No I've just I've lived a life Theo I've made some dumb decisions You know I've been places I've been places Some scary stories Some good times And some bad ones But no regrets Cause it all Led me to These moments And the lessons I've learned from them Priceless And stories I'm sure you got some stories as well Oh yeah Some I gotta keep to myself That's what I'm saying For me Because I've never really expressed this Maybe after I'm done fighting I'll make like another doco Or docuseries And then I'll go deeper Or a memoir even A book Yeah I mean get someone to fucking write that Co-write that with me Because even while I was in the UFC man Fuck I was just I went through my own ups and downs But I'm glad They weren't caught by the media Because then One thing is like Sometimes if someone goes through something You want to go through it alone Without the world watching you Because there's already like a magnifying glass on your life You know, everyone's watching you Waiting for you to fail Or something like that People take their own lives Because they can't handle what the media does I've said this bro The media has no A lot of people living our lives They would have definitely unalived themselves Unsubscribed from life because it's a lot.
1:45:54And I've been there before where I'm just like, fuck, this is too much. And I find myself going in my shell. I just become a crab and I just, and then I just, I wouldn't really want to. You don't trust the world then. I don't trust the world. Nah, I feel like I got to protect myself. So I become a turtle, ninja turtle. But then. A little less ninja, a little more turtle. Yeah, more turtle, yeah. Less ninja, more turtle. Inner ninja, yeah. Oh, bro, man. For me, it's just about learning how to come out of that. And that's where you've seen in the doco talking to Janet, who's my, she doesn't like to call herself a therapist.
1:46:27She calls herself a possibility manager. Bro, she's impressive. I was actually going to ask you for her information, which is crazy. She's here. She might be, I think she might be, she retired and just travels the country now in a caravan seeing her grandkids. Wow. That's her life. So she's already set herself up. She's left that life behind of the nine to five or whatnot. So she just lives her life like a gypsy. She asked the best questions it felt like. Yeah. That's what it is. People think therapy is this thing where this motherfucker don't know shit about me, but they don't need to. That's why you talk.
1:46:59So and it's like dating in a sense. You kind of go to try different people. 100%. So many times people go see the first therapist and they stay with them for years. It's like, are you changing? Are you evolving? It's nobody's fault if you're not. But you got to put yourself into like some boiling water. Yeah. Because you want to see what the fuck flavors are in you, bro. You got to figure it out. And if you get the wrong person, they can see, like a therapist can sit there and be like, oh, this chick with blue hair, cha-ching, and then just keep him for two years and just keep making money off them.
1:47:29A great therapist or someone who - Keep asking you about Billie Eilish all the time and shit when you come in. But like a great one is one that would, kind of like a doctor. A doctor shouldn't keep you sick constantly. She's trying to help you. Like, okay, Jenna, last time I saw her would have been over a year now. I talked to her maybe about two months ago Briefly through text when Things were getting rocky but thing is She's given me so many tools that I can use That when things get a little Because I'm human and life Yeah bro life be lifing So then I have the tools I can use To help me but then someone who Just kind of keeps you in that Suffering phase and they can milk off you Is not someone you want to be with so Shop around find the right person that can Kind of want the best for you and then you see Am I getting something out of this Once you're not getting anything out of it Pull back I'm sure there's something that's going to happen Life is always lifing Something's going to happen that'll rock my world And then boom Janet are you free?
1:48:25Can I talk to you? Boom Yeah That's it But yeah at the moment I haven't seen her Because I've just been I've been awesome I've just been living my life And I've had my ups and downs But again she's given me the tools to use That could help me Bring myself back to balance And that's what you want No bro I think it's just so important Because you don't hear that part about therapy You just hear like Go see a therapist People are like This didn't work I'm not doing it anymore It's bullshit And it's like There's somebody Yeah there's somebody that works You talked in a documentary about And we'll get out of here in a minute man You talked in a documentary about How long has it been See time flies when you're having fun Wait Probably a couple hours huh 92 hours Hour 50 No way Fuck off We barely even got Man you wait till I retire We'll do this again We'll talk about some shit One thing I like is Your perspective on things You just Oh the clips Fucking There's I think Even the Instagram Page Theo Vaughn clips That Sensor our group chat A lot And now I just crack up Like you just say The most out the gate shit I'm like How did you even think of that Yeah I don't know No it's you It's your perspective And that's the beautiful thing of it You're able to Express it So people can Follow The way your mind works Yeah You know what I mean?
1:49:40It's cool to see. Thanks, man. Yeah, I like to. I don't know. I was just always like, I just wanted to find a way to be myself. Whatever that even means. It was just like, man. Authentically be yourself. Yeah, and who even am I? I just had no idea. I didn't know what. I built this kind of thing. I didn't even know what I was doing for so long. Life's crazy, bro. It is, especially the life we live. I'm grateful, but it is crazy. All of it's fucking unbelievable that we're just loud, animals you know like what if you were in the woods and you saw a bear like on his computer something like this bear is yogi yeah you like this bear is mentally unwell you know but it's like um it's just weird being in society but um what about ayahuasca did you ever try it you talked about it so that's on the list it's definitely on i like the segue it's like well you gotta get it man yeah it's so fascinating have you been yeah damn i just went a couple of Did you go to the jungle or you found a guy that can actually do it properly?
1:50:44Because for me, I've heard because of the popularity now, there's a lot of shamans who aren't really shamans that they just, oh, come sit down in a circle with us, kumbaya, and then give you the drug or the plant medicine. And then you might get the trip, but you don't really get the benefits from the shaman to guide you through that, the purging and all that kind of stuff. but it's been on my list but the reason I haven't done it yet and I told even Mike Tyson this was because you probably haven't watched Avatar but that's the best way I can explain it. I've seen it. It's about the airbender.
1:51:20The blues or whatever. No, no, wrong one. Avatar, the last airbender, the series. Not the big. Like the Tuskegee Indians or whatever? Something like that. The Tuskegee Airmen? No, no, no, no. You're thinking James Cameron's Avatar. I'm thinking the cartoon. Okay, I gotta watch this. Yeah, the cartoon, yeah. Oh, there we go. So yeah, this Avatar, yeah, the show. I'm a big fan. That's one of my favorite animes. But it gets to a point where this guy doesn't know how to firebend anymore because he became friends with this little kid, Aang. So for me, I felt like if I go to the jungle and then I realize a lot of my shit.
1:52:00Oh, yeah. And I actualize myself And I come out of You know Clarity And I'm just like Will it affect my fighting That's the thing Because I fight I mean you've seen this In the doco I got chips in the dip You know I'm very I'm very I have something to prove You know I gotta prove something You know So for me It's not always to other people It's to myself To my younger self Because I used to get fucked with a lot So it was a weird Like let I became strong so no one could fuck with me so no one could you know i'm fortified in myself and i'm like yeah you can't fuck with me and i can that's why i'm able to be vulnerable now about all this kind of stuff because i'm like you can't beat my ass it's all good right i'm safe enough now that you know what that's interesting man i can relate to that it was like once i got like i always just felt like people judged me so much because i was poor where i lived how i got to school uh what we drove how we were you know and it just like i was just like i just want to you i want to be able to be in control and like and that younger kid like now like that kid that was all bummed out like now i can still notice when he's upset about something it comes up right but as an adult i can be like hey uh it's cool right i got you right because if i sit here and cry if i sit here and cry with him then i'm making him suffer two times exactly oh that's so good you way you put that the kid inside the because sometimes someone would do something ah okay i'll say this i was in switzerland right and then we're in this like thing um the setting classroom setting and i went to go get a coffee came back and this lady had moved my stuff where they put me in the front of the class she moved my stuff and i was like what are you is that oh i just she kind of like She's like I wanted some girl time with her And I was like oh that's cool I prefer the back of the class anyway But then I sat there and for the first 15-10 minutes of the lecture I remember just feeling rage I'm like who the fuck's this bitch If you want to sit with her get her to move Or you have to move my stuff And again it's this older white lady And it moved my stuff And it just felt like it just took me back to that moment Like just young Izzy And I could feel myself boiling So I had to kind of calm him down Like it's okay, it's alright, you're fine You're safe Yeah And then Focus on what I was doing But then That was just recent That was like two weeks ago And again People can do something That triggers you Triggered And then But you gotta notice Where that trigger is Because it's not a task I'll get so angry And then afterwards I'll be like Oh my What was I so That wasn't even Whatever happened Had nothing It's old shit I know It's old shit That we've just I gotta Talk to rip press To put down And that's what Iowas That shit turns that old shit Into a champagne bro Yeah, champagne.
1:54:52It's bubbling up, bro. Yeah, it comes in. You're like, damn, it is a party, dude. I've been on some trips. Like, example, before the Miami Pereira fight, I was microdosing, and I microdosed a little bit on psilocybin, and I went on some journeys within myself, and I just sit on my couch, watch the lights, and just listen to this kind of like lo-fi music and just question everything even deeper. Like, who am I? Why am I this? Why do I feel this way? And then speak to my younger self. But tapping into that. It's key Because if you can make him feel safe you're able to go through life easier because you'll be surprised how many moments that just erase itself even like i said my people pleasing thing i know how to identify it when it comes up now and i just did it i did it straight away even me like people i told you i don't live like the commoners anymore because i realized i've lived that life because when i'd be at a bar i'm like hey can I get 30 fireballs you know shots why and then people start to hang around me because they they know I'll be like shouting drinks and whatnot and then I get to the point where I'm just like the next day I wake up I'm like why did I ever let those guys around me oh I didn't like those people but then boundaries when I'm drunk I'm like a Labrador I just think everyone's my friend yeah I'm the opposite of some people drink bourbon and they think like oh it's they call it fighting bear i'm like hell no that's the last thing i want to do i want to hug people i want to high five yeah i'm super nice super flirty all that's being in your mouth yeah why not you know like a golden retriever just friendly with everyone so that's what i become when i'm when i'm drunk but yeah for me i just realized you know what boundaries for me boundaries so that way i don't have to i don't have to i don't have to be liked i don't need to prove to you that I'm down, that I'm just another dude.
1:56:48Because sometimes I feel like I have to do that to people, but I'm like, if you can't handle who I am, fuck, bounce. I don't have to prove to you that I'm cool. No, I can relate to you. It's like, nah, I've lived your life. You've never lived mine. Right, right. I don't have to constantly adjust. Reassure you, reassure you. Yes. I don't have to constantly adjust every moment in my life to reassure every single person that I come in contact with that I'm the same as them. Yeah, that's what that humble shit is when they talk about in New Zealand when it's like, oh, he's humble. It's like, oh. Some people, I see them.
1:57:20I'm like, not that they're not humble. I just know that they're different off camera or they're different when other people are around. Yeah. But when they're in the public, they want to, you know, be relatable. And that's cool. But I'm like, nah, bro. You're not. They already, they relate to you because of your story. Like, they relate to you because of what you've done in your field, you know? And they fuck with it on some level. so you don't have to constantly bring yourself down to their level. Just stay where you are and connect with them. That's one thing I learned as well. Don't have to raise – because when people come yelling at me now, back in the day I'd have to like, hey, what's up, man?
1:57:56Even if I'm a feeling – you know, I get it. But nah, just – Let's watch wrestling or whatever on my phone or something. Talk to my dead aunt. But for me it's like, nah, if I'm at a three and you come at me at a seven or a ten, I'm going to keep it a three. hey what's up man how you doing I'm like chill bro how you doing man you good and I can bring them back to my level of oh my god I'm such a big fan that's cool come here give me a hug I love those moments man when people are really genuine fills my heart because you want to be genuine too and so it's tough because people don't know where you're at sometimes because it's been a unique experience and yeah I think it's a learning curve And it's a learning curve for both people, you know Yeah, life's such a learning curve, man And I'm glad it is, because it would get fucking boring, you know We keep learning I'm still learning, even to this day Like I said, two weeks ago that happened in Switzerland And I had to, okay, calm down, young Izzy Calm down, it's okay But then there's going to be something else that comes through Something else that comes through Great, shit, good, bad, beautiful, ugly Smiles and frowns, whatever it is I'm going through it all And right now I'm just taking my time that's all I can I'm taking my time with everything because if I I don't know if you feel this way sometimes if I if I try and think because you know you've got too many things to deal with you know you like it can get overwhelming yeah so I'm like okay that's too much and I just have to like right let me think what can I handle I can handle this right now and just prioritize what I do yeah still learning though adulting yeah it's interesting I'm glad that God or the gods that are out there let us adult that they let us experience and evolve and learn.
1:59:43It's pretty masterful. What has been created out of life is pretty, it's unbelievable. It's like a, it's definitely one of the best Zeldas probably. Yeah, Zeldas. See, I've only played one of it. I never clocked it, not even close. But like, I know Link, that's the main character, right? Yeah. Did you play it a lot when you were a kid? Yeah, I played it when I was a kid. And then Breath of the Wild came out and I played that on Switch. On DS? Switch, yeah. So that's the one I have, Breath of the Wild. Yeah, it's good. And they just came out with a new one. Oh, yeah. And it's cool, too. But Breath of the Wild is still cool.
2:00:14So you could stick with that one, too. Yeah. No, I still got that one. But right now, I just started playing Helldivers. It's a great game. Helldivers. Holy shit. And what's it, like Pearl Hunt or whatever? It's like Halo, Helldivers 2. It's like Halo, but... And I never even played Halo. I played Call of Duty. But it's just so... You go liberate these planets or these worlds from these robots or these aliens. But it's just the way the gameplay, you play with your friends online. Yeah, it's keeping me out of trouble, put it that way. Yeah. Oh, it's important, dude, knowing when to get in trouble or not.
2:00:48I mean, I like a little bit of trouble once in a while. But at the same time, I'd rather not because it always finds me somehow. It's a challenge. It's a way that, like you say, God will just put this problem in front of you. So that way, oh, this is what I have to learn from this situation. Learn this. if I don't learn it guess what it comes back again it always does it'll come back again I'm like fuck I thought I learned last time years a decade you'll be doing the same thing and Trouble's always it's always gift wrap too Trouble's not like Trouble's not like fucking hey I'm Trouble Trouble's like looks cool sometimes with a nice ass yeah Trouble got that ruffa dump you're like oh shit here we go Trouble got got the heavies yeah but I've learned though that's the thing even younger guys now I try and teach them just don't think with your dick just you gotta use this many many mistakes have been made but many great great connections have been made as well so yeah I thank God for it all but I still try to tell the young guys that watch me I just teach them just don't do this you're like fuck I learned such the hard way I have gotta tell somebody it's not even like you're preaching to people for the love of God if I don't let somebody know then that's not good Given another one is like, because I'm not married, but I don't even know if I want to.
2:02:09I didn't really want to, but I don't know. It'll happen. Maybe. Yeah, one day you'll do it. Yeah. It'll be the next adventure. Anything? I'm not married, but I would like to be married. But I have a tough time with doing commitment. Yeah. I'm in my selfish era right now. I feel like these next few years, I'm definitely on the back end of my career. So and I said I was the most active champion Me and Volkanovski the most active champions It's crazy how many fans you have Bro most people get the belt Right now Dricker's got the belt He kind of wants to chill They want to hold the belt for a little bit You know look nice you know what I'm saying I was like who am I fighting next Cool put that guy on who am I fighting next Because you risk it every fucking time Every fucking time That's how I have so many defenses Because I'll be like who am I fighting next Boom let's go You know But For me Everything I have to do right now Is going towards this Bro I only just started having breakfast Oh But Context I used to wake up And just go straight to the gym Workout like Two workouts back to back And then have breakfast around one I'm 34 now You know Almost 35 I know my body's different I have to put the right feels on my body I was living off Uber Eats bro Like Really?
2:03:23Yeah man I was Training for fights off Uber Eats Yeah That was Cause the skills I was so Damn taquita Yeah you know what I'm saying Like Carl's Jr Indian food Anything Chinese You were defeating other Other Men on Carl Fueled by Carl's Jr Yeah Anything Burger King Like McDonald's only when I'm drunk Cause I didn't really like The quality But um Yeah it's gone Yeah It's like paper It's really Like oh man I ate a Big Mac one time Did not sit well with me And I was like yep So only when I'm drunk I'd have McDonald's but yeah if a brother can't have a burger and this is insane nah bro I've had over a hundred fights so I didn't really think like the way I ate would affect my skills but again it does at a certain point cause when I was younger bro when I was 26 25 I'd be out you know I'd be getting home around say 4 trying to get some pussy yeah and from there you know you sleep around 6, 6.30 then you have to wake up at 10 to go spot at 11 get punched in the head hung over and it's like I could do it and just kick ass but then the older you get you can't do it your body doesn't metabolize alcohol the same that's what I'm saying now I'm like how did I do that that was fucking wild how did I do that no so then now it's about like I say putting the right fuel in my body like I said I've got my boy Matt who cooks for me now everyday is a fucking cuisine oh yeah and I feel better as well my body I can feel my skin I would get the lamb too y 'all ever had that lamb we got lamb We've got more sheep than people in New Zealand Really?
2:04:57Yeah, I think Five to one Well, a lot of people are sheep Yeah, there's some people I've definitely Seep Seen some furry hind in In the area You can see them They've got mullets in the back as well Same, same If the world ends What's your strategy? What's your plan? Well, right now I'm building Also having a bunker in there Allegedly, maybe I shouldn't have said that Fuck, it's alright But yeah, I just feel I mean, you saw that world, the movie, Leave the World Behind. Yeah, that's possible. Very possible. What if the internet shuts down? Who knows? Yeah, you wake up and the phone doesn't work.
2:05:35They've shut down all New Zealand's connection to the world. You have two calls left. What do you do and where do you go? Oh, I call my dad. First person, call my dad. And I'd probably go, yeah, drive down to Whanganui. But the thing is, funny enough, during lockdown, people were doing that. And when they made the call or like you get the alert, lockdown starts at midnight tonight, some fucking purge type shit. People were getting out of Auckland. People were going down to their batches if they could. People were trying to see what their family and some people, these guys got caught going to Hamilton, which is about 45 minutes away from Auckland.
2:06:09Maybe an hour away. They went over through like some farm roads just to get KFC in Hamilton. Yeah. Just to get KFC in Hamilton and bring it back. I think they were gang members as well I swear to God Gangs love that Looking for KFC They were looking for KFC during lockdown Yeah look up Kiwi MS-13 I can't remember which gangs it was But we don't have no Sorenos out here Oh really? No Mexican gangs But they're prevalent Kiwi, Hamilton, KFC Lockdown Lockdown I just want to see if it's a start Yeah Right there Yeah, it'll be there. Men caught. Yeah, there it is. Ah! Look at that. I love how the police confiscated it.
2:06:58Yeah, man, we got that. That's their lunch right there for the next three days. At least there's no crime in this country if this is a bad deal. Yeah, this is like, oh, we got you now. If a couple of wings and a breast. New Zealand police have made a bizarre arrest after a pair of alleged gang associates were caught trying to enter Auckland with a boot full of KFC chicken. Sell that shit on the low.
2:07:23Are you not allowed to bring it in? No, you couldn't leave the Auckland District. So they left to go get KFC and bring it back. Like a couple Storm Hunters, huh? Actual. So everything was shut down. The lockdown was bizarre, man. Did you guys, where were you living? I moved to Tennessee during the lockdown and it was wide open. You could dance. That's why everyone moved to Texas as well. Texas changed everything. That's why the comedy scene moved over there once. Joe and the mothership and there's a good energy there now of like possibility and new and like people are excited there man I love watching Killed Tony because dude it's so good I used to watch it back in the day I was just talking about actually I used to I used to watch it no I used to listen to it at my old job used to listen to it and roast battle and then when I saw Tony in Texas one time he's like yeah man we've yeah super gay no gay yeah He's like, yeah, man.
2:08:19And he was telling me how it's going up. And I was like, all right, I'll have a look. So now I watched it on YouTube. And I got my flatmate hooked. And now we've just been watching it. The whole Hans Kim, Rick Diaz thing just took it to a new level. Rick Diaz has got some fucking cojones on him, man. Out of nowhere, the guy just like, stop protecting him. I want his spot. And I saw it about two weeks ago where the light cut out and he came out. And then was flipping him off. Fuck, yeah. Yeah, no, he just, he just, Rick Diaz appeared after the New Year's show. He just, the next week, the lights cut out and then came back on.
2:08:52And then Hans Kim is doing a set on stage. And then Rick Diaz is right there just flipping him off. It's like a soap opera now. It is. Yeah, it's got a storyline. It's got a storyline to it now. It's so amazing, bro, to go there and watch. I'm going to go one day. Like, definitely. I know Sean O'Malley went and then he did the New Year's show. But then at some point, I will go to Austin, Texas, and I'll go to Kill Tony. I just want to sit there. I don't even got to talk. I just sit there answer questions and just watch the the chaos ensue just live in front of me. So crazy And they got the blind guy that you're like yeah, oh, yeah, what's his name?
2:09:21He's playing? No, I don't know the blind guy that hates gays I can't remember his name. No, my god. Fuck. I know his name. It's gonna come to me I hate they got Chris Rogers the painter they're painting the whole time they got the crazy part is you get one minute Which is impossible it would almost be like hey be the best UFC fighter in one minute. You got to be throwing hope But then they roast the guy Or woman If they suck And if they're obnoxious Then you can see Tony's like Oh I got a live one And he can just Roast the motherfucker Dude the other day I tuned in On YouTube It was streaming live They had 81 ,000 people watching Damn Live That's worldwide bro Unbelievable Yeah I mean the concept itself is wild But now to do it in an arena And then they've had these main characters now, like the regulars, like Hans Kim and David Lucas.
2:10:15Yeah. And now Cam Newton. Oh, Cam Patterson. Oh, Pat. Fuck. Yeah. Racist. Cam Patterson. Yeah. But yeah, even he's funny. He's hilarious, dude. I want to have him come on here sometime soon. Where are you based right now? I'm based in Tennessee and Los Angeles. In Tennessee and LA. Yeah. I see. You go back. How often do you spend between both? I tour probably six months, and the rest I do like four months in Tennessee. Tour life, road dog. Two months in LA. So where's next after this? You're going to Australia, right? We're going to Australia. And then we got like Atlanta, New Orleans. New Orleans.
2:10:49We're going to put a show up at Iowa sometime soon. Yeah. So a lot of great places still to go perform, man. It's been awesome, man. The world's a big place, man. I mean. I know. We want to go to South Africa. We want to go perform there. Wait till the UFC goes there. Yeah. Yeah, wait. That's a good idea. Yeah, like the UFC is definitely going to go there. And when it does, I'll be right there too. Well I watched you perform tonight I think it'll be my first time seeing you live Oh yeah Well we better go get ready too Yeah I've only seen you on Netflix But yeah I can't wait Oh this will hopefully be better I think David enjoyed it My brother enjoyed it last night He did?
2:11:21Yeah fuck yeah That's fair He said it was dope Yeah so I can't wait I'll bridge some of the gang Yeah let's get it huh Easy Izzy thanks so much man I don't think there's anything else to say right now Nah wait till I retire then we'll talk Alright We'll get deep Deal bro I appreciate it, man. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you for your time, man. And thanks for the documentary, too. Thanks for being vulnerable. I really respect that, especially when people in opposition don't have to fake the funk. You can just be honest about what's really going on. So I appreciate that. And that's good for everyone else to see.
2:11:50We're human. Yeah, we're trying our best to be. That's for sure, man. I'm adulting. I don't even know. Sometimes I'm like, how did we get here? How do I? I know. I'm like, am I meant to? I have houses now. I know. That's crazy. I'm like I'm doing alright I know Even Rogan told me one time He's like sometimes it's scary Because I'll pull into my house And I'm in the garage And I'll feel like Somebody's gonna come in Right after me And just take it all away Damn He said sometimes That's that It keeps you hungry though It's a thing that just happens To people Yeah But Israel Thank you so much Thank you Theo Yeah brother Gang Gang baby We'll see you in We'll see you in Africa Baby praise baby Throw it up Yeah Now I'm just falling on the breeze And I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone Oh, but when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones But it's gonna take...
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Israel Adesanya is a mixed-martial artist and former 2-time Middleweight champion of the UFC. He is originally from Lagos, Nigeria and currently lives in New Zealand.
Theo heads to New Zealand for a special episode of This Past Weekend, chatting with former UFC champion Israel Adesanya. They talk about his time off from fighting, his thoughts on the current state of the UFC, why he wants a rematch against Sean Strickland, dealing with rowdy fans in public, why you’re never too old to emote, and more.
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