E528 Dermot Kennedy

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30:23Definitely, but like tons of hip hop. I'm listening to hip hop 99 % of the time. Oh, you are? Yeah, like I remember my friend had 50 Cent's first album. And that was just huge for me. And it's funny because I listen to it all the time and I never try and let it influence my music too much because I'd just be pretending to be a rapper and that would be ridiculous, but it does influence the way I write. Like I'll write verses in a hip-hop type way and no one really knows or acknowledges it, but to me, I can feel the flow. If there's no beat or anything, there may be no drums or whatever, but it's just, to me, that's written in a hip-hop way.

30:53Like if I could, yeah, I would love to get certain features and stuff. That would be my favorite. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I feel like that could easily happen, especially now because there's so many, there's a lot more featuring now it feels like. Yeah, it's important. J. Cole to me is like number one. That would be like an incredible thing to me. I would love that so much. You're here working in Nashville right now on music. Yes. Yeah. Have you met up with other artists while you've been here? A little bit, yeah. It's funny, you know, because like you said, Gabe Simon and Joshua were with me at the show last night in the Bluebird.

31:23But also the idea is you kind of have your friends with you playing songs. And it's like you go back and forth. I'll do a song, you do a song, they do a song but like I don't have friends like that you know what I mean I kind of feel quite solitary when I go to these places uh yeah like sometimes you know there's sometimes people have tons of features and have tons of friends on songs of I feel quite content in this way but like a bit of a loner in the music biz I feel like I kind of go about my business in a in a in a loner way which is fine I'm okay with that and I love people I think they're incredible I think the other artists in my genre and that are doing well, I absolutely love them.

32:00But I, I oftentimes if I'm doing a thing like last night, I'm just like, I'll do it by myself. It'll be fine. Oh yeah. Definitely. Is it just, and it's not really a choice that you don't want to work with other people. It's just kind of like, this has been going fine. This is how I'm doing. Do you feel like you don't want to bother other people ever? Uh, yes, definitely. And I also, I don't want to be kind of, I don't want to seem as though I'm reaching out to somebody for their clout or whatever you know i don't think you could seem like that nice one yeah i appreciate it to be honest with you i don't think just you know i don't know you super well we've gotten hung out a few times i don't think that you could seem like that okay yeah that doesn't help anything but no no but you know when you can i'm working with j cole but i think you easily could i mean we went out the other night and zach brown saw you and he was like i you know immediately he brought you onto his show yeah thank you for that he said that immediately he didn't think at all it was cool he just asked.

32:51He was like so excited to see you. Yeah, we randomly ran in and we were at the Red Clay Strays and yeah, there you are right now. That's crazy, dude. I saw that video. It gave me chills, dude. It was nuts. It was funny. I lingered for so long because we rehearsed it beforehand and he was like, I'll sing the outro verse. He said, you've seen the first half of the outro verse. I'll sing the second half. I was like, perfect. So I sang my bit, then went and hit away with the bongo player for a while. and then the outro verse came along and I walked back out to the walkway and I was like, all right, sweet, here we go.

33:23And then he started singing the outro verse and I was like, oh no, now I'm just standing here. So being an awkward person, I was like, I'm just standing here in front of 70 ,000 people with nothing to do. I should have been gone ages ago, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was lovely though. God, that's so cool looking, dude. It's nice. It's the best thing. I don't get nervous for that, which is weird. Yeah, oh man. and that, yeah, karaoke makes me so sad. I could not even imagine having to sing in front of people. So when did you start to learn that you had singing talent? I mean, I know that some of this will be like elementary stuff to you, but for some audience that doesn't know you, you know?

33:59Of course. Yeah, when did you start to learn that? Because how do you go from being like this sort of like, like, not recluse, but sort of this like - Quiet kid. Shadow lurkering. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Good guy. yeah yeah yeah we don't want to make it sound like a villain no but sort of this um this guy who's this patient person how do you go from that to like being able to like express yourself because dude yeah when you start it's like there's a lot of levels to what you do like sometimes i feel like there's like some mac miller sometimes i feel like there's like this dr seuss of like irish funerals going on there's so many and then sometimes it's just like this you almost feel like you're at a opera or something right you know yeah so it's really impressive nice man thank you yeah i try and do a few different things but i i remember my sister played piano and she still does when we were kids and classic thing i would just sing in the back of the car and i remember my mom i was just loud you know i'm still loud and i uh so yeah i just started figuring out i played soccer quite seriously when i was a kid seriously in my head and uh and so music was like a secondary thing so i never worried about playing to people because i was just i was thinking about playing football so I uh I would always it came quite easy to me to play to people because I didn't see it as being that important the first few times you know and uh and so yeah it just gradually became a thing I started realizing I wanted to write music I'd go into town and like do open mics and stuff oh you would yeah like Dublin's so supportive that's what I mean it's like I know I was talking about notions and all that kind of stuff but it's just like it's a nice place I was 15 16 playing in these pubs and people would do anything to help you I don't know what it's like in the States.

35:39Oh yeah, yeah, no, that Iris will do anything. Yeah, and they just, if they see some potential in you, they'll just kind of say, I know this person, I know that person, be careful with this, and da da da, and lots of advice, and all that kind of thing, so yeah, just gradually. I mean, like I'm 32 now, so like, I've been doing this since I was 19, I guess, you know what I mean? So it's a long road, and I know we were talking about the Red Clay Strays and how they've put time in, and I think if you get to a certain level, there's very few people who haven't had that journey, do you know what I mean?

36:06I know you had Luke Combs on here, I know everybody's got their journey in music, but there's so much time you spend knowing you're good and being frustrated that you don't have a career. You know what I mean? So I think you just have to be patient. It's so silly to me. It's so kind of arbitrary in a way because it's this thing where, like you said, you're lurking in the shadows knowing you're good, but no one's paying attention. And then out of nowhere, people decide you're just really good. And it's like, I knew that before. But it just takes time. Yeah, it is. That is such a fine line. There's a...

36:39Like, what's it like for you? You know what I mean? Like when you knew you had this potential, but people didn't know you were. Funny, I think I was sitting on a porch one day at school, in college, and this kid's like, you should do stand-up comedy, man. And I was like, fuck you, dude. You're an idiot, right? And the guy was an idiot. So I was right. But yeah, eventually I started doing comedy, you know? But was it that classic thing? There were times you start to do good, yeah, and then you're like, why? What? you know, you see other people like, I'm doing, but I think a lot of it's just time.

37:10And it's like, yeah, like weathering that storm and then weathering that storm of like other people's careers have been going, they have to have their successes. And so that's just the way that time works. Do you find that hard sometimes when you see people like having massive moments? Yeah. I know you are too. So it's probably made easier by that. I definitely did earlier on, And, you know, and then, yeah, now it's like, you know, we're able to sell out a club and able to sell out some spots. So once you can kind of do that, you start to feel a little bit more like in control. Like, at least, okay, at least I'm doing my job.

37:46I think that's part of it, too. It's like, hell, it's hard to admit to somebody that you're a comedian. Like, you know, because everybody's funny and everybody has good stories, especially being from Louisiana. so like they don't even have any comedy clubs in Louisiana because people are so funny just talking to them yeah yeah yeah so it's like I'm not gonna go pay$7 and go in that you know booze hole yeah well fucking Randy out here did you spend a lot of time sort of doing sets and clubs with just tough ones yeah for years man yeah I would drive and do all the sets I think there was a part of me that wanted to be good at it And then I think After a while I think the art chooses you Because I didn't end up getting married I didn't have a child So those things didn't kind of like Start to take up my time So I was still available for it So yeah I think there's A moment kind of where some of the art chooses you I keep thinking about you Spitting on that girl's head Terrible times God if she only knew And I tried to I think draw a heart when I spit or something Yeah, yeah, yeah.

38:55I tried to save it. I tried to do something. I remember just doing like that a little or something. I don't know. I wanted to be kind of artistic. I don't fucking know. But that was the only way I could express myself. I know what you mean about the saliva. I find it even when I'm doing this. You know?

39:16So I don't know, man. Yeah, what were we talking about? But it's been good. I've loved being here, honestly. Have you? It's a good place making music. Yeah, it's a good place. Definitely. I think... Yeah, and I think if you don't... You have to kind of like put yourself out there some here. And if you like to do kind of your own thing... I mean, your music does feel very important to you, like you said, right? Like the stuff you're... You know, you're not trying to go for like... It doesn't seem like some pop thing or trying to like read a bunch of other people's songs that they've written. No.

39:49It seems like you're trying to make your voice. Yeah, if it was like someone else, you know, there'd be no point. There's people I'm a fan of and there's people I'm inspired by, but you gotta take a mix of all that and make your own thing, yeah, otherwise it's boring. Cause that's a big part of the culture here is like all the big songwriter groups and then they service the musicians, you know? Totally, and you gotta be careful cause you find, like I've written songs where I'm like, oh no, that's too like this person. There's no place in the world for that. I think it's funny, sometimes you'll have people kinda, see I remember we were talking about Lewis Capaldi the other day, I remember for a long time I was kind of pushing to do just piano and vocal.

40:25And it never really worked out. And then he had his massive song, I was getting kind of used to being someone you loved. And then I remember someone in my team that I worked with was kind of like, oh, I was thinking like maybe piano and vocal. And I was like, this is so obvious. Like, you did that already. So like, it's so senseless that I would go and do that, unless it felt right. But this idea of just like copying something else that did well is weird and will never get the right results, I think. yeah I think you see a lot of that with music you see like someone breaks out of the pack and then there's a lot of other people that start to sound just like them oh totally you see it now like say Noah Cannon and Zach Bryan like having these huge moments I'm inspired by it but I have to make sure I do my own thing and don't sort of what's the word try and replicate it I guess because you'll just end up on your ass yeah I think yeah because then you're just like oh he sounds like this person totally and the reason it works for them is because they are them and they're uniquely them and people are drawn to that, definitely.

41:21I think even like the attitude that's contained within your music, like you see Zac Bryan, like the recordings and everything, they're quite, what's the word? Like they're so rough and ready, but people are drawn to that. Everything's so perfect nowadays. So people just like that. He's literally just pressing record and that take is that take. I think it's incredible. Again, I heard Luke Combs kind of say they'll go in and do five songs in an evening. I think that's beautiful. I've been in situations now where things can get quite fragmented and you're kind of like, okay, we'll do piano, then do vocal.

41:53It's all quite polished and put together. So I want to get back to that side of things. Yeah. Yeah, that feels like a challenge. I think that's a challenge in any art, you know? How do I stay me? Yeah. And then how do I stay me as I change? And then is it okay to still be me? this changed me at the risk of that my the people who are paying attention to me won't will understand totally and i like i get to hide behind the music like in your line of work i think you are your brand right so like changing has got to be a whole different thing do you know what i mean like i can change my music all i like and i'll still be me underneath it but like i find for comedians or people that do what you do it's tough because because your name is the whole thing right you know like like if you change as a person people will kind of could criticize could enjoy it whatever yeah or like but to not even evolve i think right like i think that's kind of the thing that i'm thinking of is like like a guy told me one time um he's a manager he's uh worked at uh a fancy management company in los angeles and he said you know your audience will grow up with you so you have to grow up as well or it can get kind of stale you know and i thought that was just interesting you know it's just like yeah that's kind of true like if i you know be afraid to change or don't grow up or you know then they're gonna grow up past me of course yeah i got that with music too you know oh yeah you try and like you try and sort of think about what age you were when people first started listening to your music and then change with that 50 cents a good example he always he stopped making music sometimes because he was just like it's not relevant to those people anymore.

43:37It's interesting. Yeah, I'm trying to think. Yeah, there's a little bit of Zach. Brian, I want to hear you. There's a little bit of James Blake, but it's you. It definitely felt like this guy at the shipyard who's just going to fucking show you what's going on. I hope so. And his girl, she better pay attention. It's all like that. And if he goes out on the boat with you to fish or crab or whatever, he's gonna be a little loud sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got told I even talked too loud. A speech therapist recently was like, you need to relax. Really? Constantly, yeah. Yeah, they said like, because I have trouble with my voice sometimes.

44:17Even last night, my voice kind of went about halfway through. And I don't know how to not go full beans constantly. Yeah. You know? You must get so many, dude, every girl I know, my brother's wife, my ex-girlfriend, every woman is looking for you. so I don't know if you, I'm sure you have, how many ring cameras do you have? Yeah, we got the cameras in the house at home. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, it's just, people can connect to real feelings. Yeah, the feelings, yeah. I saw you. You were nodding along. Oh, I was. I had one song that had rhythm in it last night, right? Oh, no, there was a couple moments.

44:56You hit some rhythm. Yeah, I mean, well, yeah, when it's not like the whole band and it's just you, that's a lot of pressure. I mean, you had the boys with you there. The poet, Joshua. Yeah. He was great. Dude, he was at my show in Halifax. Did I tell you that? Was he at the show? Yeah. Because he said he bumped into you on the flight. Yeah, I didn't know he was at the show. Yeah, he came to the show in Halifax in the morning. I'm on the plane. Brilliant. He said, hey, I was at your show last night. I was like, oh, you're heading to the US? He's like, yeah, I'm going to play with Dermot Kennedy.

45:19I said, oh, I'm actually going to his show. No way. And so I'll see you there tomorrow. Yeah, he's a nice guy. He was so much more confident than me. He was funny. Yeah. He's 22 as well. So it's just like, I don't know. I think that's a difficult gig when it's just spoken. You know, the music, you can hide behind it and stuff. But when it's just spoken word, that's not easy. Yeah. But it added this element of like, because last night, so just for the listeners. So there was Dermot, there was Gabe Simon accompanying him on guitar and mandolin and some different instruments. And there was Joshua De Shooter.

45:56and he's a poet and he was like kind of reading lines at certain points. Yeah. And he had sort of tailored his poetry to fit around the songs and stuff. It was just cool. I don't know. Yeah, it was cool. I know when I was that age I kind of was dying to do things like that so I was excited to work with him, yeah. Yeah, I thought that was super cool. How'd you find him? Instagram. I saw him doing a poem. He had a really cool poem. I couldn't even point it out now but he had a really cool poem about two people who every night in a cemetery they come up out of their graves and one guy was really rich and one guy was really poor and just, it's this beautiful poem about like not forgetting what's important in life.

46:30So I thought it was cool. I think there's a lot of, I think there's a lot of bullshit poetry on Instagram, but I think he's not that. So that's why. Yeah. Yeah. I liked even just having a younger person, it like added this element of like nervous energy and approach to the world, which was like such a dichotomy to kind of some of your music, you know, some of it's like, you know, it's more like, uh, I don't think a young person could even write something, you know, you know, I think you have to have some experience you know i definitely think about that now even like having any degree of success i feel better equipped now you know i i used to be annoyed that i wasn't getting gigs and stuff but i guess i'm glad it happened the way it did because now i i even as a person just in society i try not to you know you you learn how to not take shit from people and you learn who you are in the world a little bit i'd be scared if i was 22 doing this you know what i mean oh yeah having like a lot of success at just anything any kind of traction yeah and someone was like i feel like I'm easily led or gullible even at this age.

47:26So I don't know what I'd be like if I was younger. Yeah. Yeah. It seemed kind of risque out there. I want to think more about Ireland, dude. Do they have, oh, somebody said the Irish started Halloween. Is that true? Sauna? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause what is it? It sort of translates like the, the night of the lost souls or something like that. I'm not sure, but yeah, Irish people, Ireland's very pagan and sort of a lot of things like that. The dead are very important. The dead are very important. By the way, like Coco, like... Yes. In those movies, like... That's the Mexican dad, right?

47:57Yeah. It feels like there's similarities in that sense. There's like the Celtic Sound Festival, yeah. Wow. My... Actually, I was talking about it last night at the gig, the island my auntie lives on. Halloween's really important, and it's all the lost souls and stuff. What is it called? Inishmore. Inishmore. I thought her name's Deirdre. I thought you were about to say her name. I was like, you know my auntie Deirdre. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But they have these traditions, you know, where there's very few people live on the island. It's like, I'd be bullshitting, maybe a few hundred people kind of thing.

48:30And there's this tradition where someone, someone you know will knock on your door and they're kind of allowed, walk around your house in silence and open drawers and close drawers and then leave. And then later on, everyone's in the pub and you don't know who is in your house. So it's this kind of, there's all these creepy traditions, yeah. Ireland started Halloween, yeah. Oh, that's guessing. Yeah, Halloween was invented in Ireland. The roots of Halloween can be traced back 2 ,000 years to the Celtic Samhain. Samhain. Samhain. Yeah, I think those things are important in Ireland, like ghosts and all that kind of thing.

49:01Do you believe in ghosts? Yeah, for sure, dude. Yeah, from Louisiana, we got fucking ghosts over there, dude. Oh, true, yeah. Everybody's, yeah. Everybody's eating trout or something, you know, even you'll hear a ghost eating something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a lot of, we have fat ghosts down there. Like you'll be at the hospital and be like, yeah, there's a ghost in the other. ward yeah he broke his legs New Orleans is Louisiana right ghosts are like that's a ghost town right it's a ghost town yeah there's ghost tours yeah and the crazy thing you'll be on a ghost tour somebody will get murdered because it's so dangerous there that then another ghost will show up you're like oh damn that's Reginald yeah yeah I knew him yeah they just he just got here he's fresh yeah yeah but yeah there's a lot of like that that sort of energy there there's tons of ghost tours and stuff like that we had a dude in our town who got um busted by the cops being for being a ghost dude we had um so this family owned they bought like a ramada and it was like a small it's a small motel oh okay and uh used to be nice and now it's still nice but it's not like it's not like swanky and they were trying to make it on the um get on the hall on the ghost tour so when people came to america to go learn about ghosts and everything it would show up on like the ghost like oh you got to stop here right so they wanted to make it haunted okay so they did like some like like low-key haunting shit like the wiring and stuff and like it was getting a little bit of a buzz but then they're like oh we're not getting enough people that love ghosts you know and so they would have somebody would dress up upstairs and they had hotel room doors that were across the hallway from each other yep so they would open a door on each side and when you go walked up the stairs the person would just walk across yeah so you'd see something like just what was that you know and um yeah and so it was getting some heat and people were like holy there's ghosts and people were outside hanging out and drinking dr pepper and sometimes even people because there people get real excited and um and then they busted the guy the guy forgot to take off his ghost sheet or whatever he was driving home it was oh no the owner's son and they fucking busted him idiot yeah yeah yeah have you had any like encounters properly with ghosts oh yeah a friend of mine died and like i was laying in his living room um the day after and i felt him he was right outside wow no way and i just it felt as if he was right there i mean it just i don't know i never felt like he was standing around me before or since but it just felt real and I just started like crying.

51:37It was like just super intense, you know? Wow. I've never had, I believe in all that stuff so strongly, but never anything like that. Yeah, Ireland, you guys have like the Giants. Causeway? Causeway, yeah, and it's supposedly made by Giants. Yeah. Did you go there? Did we go to Giants Causeway? We didn't. No, I haven't been there. Is that good? Is that helpful? I don't know. I haven't been there. But it's like, but the story is that there was a Giant from there and a giant from Scotland and they weren't getting along. Is that right? I feel like you know more about it than I do. Yeah, I think so.

52:09Oh, Finn McCool. That was one of the giants. And there was another giant. Legend has it that an Irish giant named Finn McCool Oh, yeah. created, and everybody's going to think this is extremely exciting. Yeah. An Irish giant, Finn McCool. Yeah. To cross the Irish Sea and fight his rival, the Scottish giant, Ben and Donner. Yeah. So they like, and so it just looks like these like, there's these big square stones heading out into the water from each side. Yeah, beautiful thing. So there's one of them in Scotland as well? That's a good question. Hopefully there is. If not... You made it up? Yeah.

52:44Fuck it.

52:49Scotland giant cosmic? We'll say that there is. Let's keep the lore alive. But yeah, there's a lot of stuff like that in Ireland. A lot of like... Well, there's leperchons. There's mystery. Ancient things. Yeah. A lot of that. There's a lot of lore. Definitely. Absolutely. There's a lot of myths and stuff. It's romantic in a way. Yeah. I think I loved Lord of the Rings, The Hobbit, and all that stuff, purely because I think being Irish, you kind of grow up loving those things. Yeah. Definitely. I would hate to be without that. I think, to be honest, in my songs, I had a song last night called The Killer Was a Coward, and it's just a made-up story.

53:25I love it. It's just about a king and a person that kind of finds his way through this castle and kills him. and to me I was just like, fuck it, why not make a song like that? Yeah. What has the songwriting experience been like in Nashville? Has it been inspired by any country vibes or is it just this is a place that you feel is good to write and be? I think it's a good place. I think you can't downplay how talented people are. Sometimes if I'm writing somewhere else, I can get stuck and kind of come away with half a verse or half a chorus or something, whereas here you come away with full songs because people do not stop.

53:59It's like Gabe, who was there last night, he just, he's relentless. You know what I mean? He can kind of just, he never runs out of ideas. So people here are just so talented. Plus, it's just a better place to write. Yeah, I don't know. I like being here. It feels like it's not the be all and end all, the music business. Even though it's here and it's based here and there's so many people here that are working on music, it doesn't feel like people are writing to try and be successful. It feels like people are trying to just make music and see what happens. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. There's a nice sense of like just being alive here.

54:29definitely and you just take time and people are nice and you'll be playing a song and someone will kind of invite their friend over and play guitar whereas in LA they'll be kind of like what's in it for me why would I do that you know what I mean whereas here it's just supportive yeah yeah yeah I think that's really true man I mean we went out and saw some great music and then you met up with Zac Brown and you were playing with yeah I think it's definitely people it's more of a sharing culture here for sure and it yeah it feels like it's its own place outside of just the possibility of making music.

55:00Totally. I think sometimes when I write, I question how important it is. Do you know what I mean? That's why, like I've had moments in the past where I struggle with getting music over the line because I'm just like, who cares? And I completely forget about the fact that people listen to it. You know what I mean? I kind of, I have dismissed that and I don't mean who cares. Like it's always important to me, but also in the past, I've kind of been like, oh, I don't know. You get so caught up in it. You're just like, does it really matter? Really? Like, and I don't know. Yeah. So it's nice to be back at a place where music is the most important thing.

55:33It's lovely. I think when you kind of go chasing a career, it can be a tricky thing and it can get in the way of doing the right stuff creatively. So I'm glad to be here. Oh yeah. That's a good point. Well, do you feel like, I mean, you've had such a great career already. Do you feel like, yeah, does a new desire arise in you once you're already doing well kind of? is it like a maintaining desire is it no I think it's a returning for me it's returning to who I was before doing any of it you know what I mean like you being funny on the porch because it just makes you feel good you know what I mean me playing music at home just because it's the thing I love I have yet to play a show where I come away being like oh wow that was perfect I'm so happy now do you know what I mean like when I'm on the tour bus after a gig I keep an even keel constantly I don't come off stage wired or I don't come off stage really sad.

56:25I just kind of like, yeah, it was good. And if it was good, I'm happy with it. And if it was bad, it's okay because I'll do it again tomorrow. But yeah, like getting back, I said that last night, like I want to be able to play music like I don't care. Do you know what I mean? I just, there's no thought about like whether it's good or bad. I'm just doing it because it feels right. Yeah. Like I blow my voice out because I'm just trying so fucking hard all the time. Do you know what I mean? I need to get to a place where I don't feel very confident doing it. You know what I mean? Not at all. Doing what?

56:54Just performing for people. Like I self-analyze constantly to the point that it's detrimental. But then like I think a lot of musicians do that, right? Like you're hard on yourself. You're hard on yourself. Yeah, you're hard on yourself. You want to do your best. Totally. Yeah. That's something I got out of your stuff too. It's like I felt like I want to give everything that I'm capable of while I'm here. Yes. Yeah, of course. Yeah, it's only last night. Like you talked about - While I exist even, while I exist, I want to get everything that is possible out of me. Definitely. You know, like having played sport for such a long time when I was a kid, that felt like such a powerful feeling.

57:37And I think sometimes I'm trying to get that feeling from music. And so, yeah, I just, I think like if you play well in a match or a game or whatever, the reason you feel like you leave nothing out there and I take that into music, I think. and I think it's important to not be competitive as a musician but sometimes I can take the gigs in a competitive way you know and just make sure you have nothing left I think that kind of feels important what happened with sports with football I just wasn't good enough really yeah damn I was alright don't get me wrong I wasn't but like I always I'm always conscious of if I was on here being like oh yeah I had to decide between soccer and music there'd be someone in Dublin and be like arsehole not true you know what I mean?

58:21I was alright but I wasn't doing that yeah yeah no way and that's like the biggest sport over there oh wait have you seen that road bowling? yes yeah I don't know what it is really? well I know what it is I follow them on TikTok have you seen the stone lifting? no I haven't but I know this is people and these are adults most of them it looks like and they get up in Shannon Vale

58:56and they throw a ball and this is a real thing that happens this isn't like a um prank they throw a ball down a street and try to get it as far as they can and they want to get to a certain finish line in the least amount of tries so it's kind of like golf just with your hand and it's an iron ball it's a steel ball you should look up the stone lifting the stone lifting seems to be back in a major way really play one more of those I want to see we gotta cause here's Huff Wayne Parks here going turn it up Bob 13 ,800 euro aside for cancer research Charlie Begant here in Shannonville here we go he runs so far oh he's planted like a jet for Ian Parks what a big big

59:48It's the best thing that I've ever seen. How much did they get? They say 13 ,800. Nuh-uh. Really? Oh, 13 ,800 aside. And Wayne Parks is on fire. Good man, Wayne Park. Wow. Yeah, certain things are back. There's people lifting stones at like 300 kilos and stuff. It's probably on TikTok. I feel like it's a big thing again. Lifting stones. Yeah, and they're awkward. It's like random. It's not like those big round ones. is like a proper awkward stone in the field. There we go. Let's see it. Yes! Holy s***. Let's go. Holy s***. Holy John, that's it. Come on, John. Holy s***, John. You got it, John.

1:00:27Let's go. Come on. Holy fuck, John. Holy s***, John. Yeah, yeah. When I'm not on guard, this is all weird. Oh, yes! Come on. Yes! Holy John. Let's go. So strong. Oh, unbelievable. Now, how high do you have to get up? I guess you have to get it above your waistline it looks like. I feel like it needs to be on your chest, yeah. Play one more of those. That's unbelievable. I mean, that is a huge... Strong people, yeah. That was a huge stone. Play that top one. Just play the top one.

1:00:57Oh, and this is a more rounded stone. Yeah. Wow. This guy wants to make an omelet. Look at that, dude. And there's his brother who can't lift him. talking shit all the day probably oh yeah this is crazy this is yeah there's something so Irish about all this I think I don't know what it is I feel like I've seen him

1:01:25yeah what's that guy's name with the awkward ones Tom Saltman official oh wow where's that England strongest brothers oh they're both strong It does seem one-sided. My bad, boys. He's doing all the work. Yeah, but yeah, I will say this. One of them is doing a lot of the work, lads. Yeah, that road bowling. Play one more of those. I just couldn't. See if you can find Pa. I'm trying to think. There we go. Play that one in. Gary Daly there. Oh, he's an off-duty police officer.

1:02:33Yeah, I never really knew this. Road Bowls in Ireland, so just to let you know, you know you've been keeping track of Paflod. I'll follow this, yeah. Approximately 20 past three on Road Bowls in Ireland on Facebook. So, who's going to win? And it's a qualifier to take part in the King and Queen of the Roads Festival 2024, happening in September. That's Paflod versus Colm Rafferty. Colm Rafferty is a big thrower from County Armagh, and Paflod needs no introduction here. So tune in in about 20 minutes. You should have gone to this one. I tried. Did you really? Yeah, they were out of Cork. They were far away or they were in Europe somewhere.

1:03:12There was one that actually made a little message to me. There you go. Shortest bowl in history. Shortest bowl in history. Let's see it. That's Pa Flood right there. That's him? That's him, yeah. Oh, shit. Oh, bollocks, Pa. That was best work. Gosh, my flood, huh? Just joking, Pa. that guy will throw one of those through my house. Oh, imagine that though, lad. You're just in your shins. Oh, um, yeah, that's Michelle Smith official. How much is that? 50 ,000 pound for the winner? 50 ,000 euro. Yeah. So I don't know, $55 ,000 probably in and around. Um, and look up the rules for road bowling real quick.

1:03:58I just want to read it so I can 60 ,573 dollars. Wow. to throw a damn ball down a road. Yeah, I don't know where that money comes from. Now, that's a great question, brother. That's an IOU. Road bowling is an Irish sport in which competitors attempt to take the fewest throws to propel a metal ball along a predetermined course of country roads. The sport originated in Ireland and is mainly played in counties. Armagh. Armagh and Cork. Road bowling in Ireland is governed by the Voluntary Irish Road Bowling Association. Armagh won the All-Ireland this year in the football. Oh, they did? The bullet or bowl is a solid iron cannonball, seven inches circumference, and it weighs 28 ounces.

1:04:44There are two or more players or teams in a match. The one with the fewest shots to the finish line wins. If two players or teams approach the finish line with equal shots, the winners decide about which throw goes farther past the finish line. Wow. You should have played this. God, I'd love to. I guess you really have to have the shoulders for it Are you lefty? Or righty? Yeah I'm pretty much righty I'll do it but You know When I was younger I used to try to eat with my left hand I'd be like I'm going to change things up I'm going to be different And I would do it for like two bites I'm like fuck that So like fork in your left hand So you would now eat with a fork in your right hand?

1:05:25No now I go fork in my left hand Yeah knife in the right hand but every now and then I'd try to change it up I remember at home if you were a lefty, this probably happened here too if you were writing with your left hand they would slap you and put the pen in your right hand I remember my dad, my dad's lefty too and he, they would make him write with his right hand when he was younger why they don't like it over there? no, yeah, I mean it's, not to stay on Google the whole time but I bet it's like an old Irish thing there was some weirdness about being a lefty they just don't want you to be different 100 % you get like slapped on the back of the hand It says right here, it was all due, it was believed to an unloving refrigerator mother.

1:06:00Even as late as the 1900s, some schools in Ireland were still forcing Southpaw children to write with their right hands. Nowadays, we know that nine out of 10 people are right-handed and that left-handedness is likely to be genetic. What's a refrigerator mother? Yeah. Is that like a latchkey kid in Ireland? The term refrigerator mother was coined by Austrian physicist Leo Kanner in the 1940s to describe a mother whose cold, uncaring style so traumatized her child that they were treated into autism. So they thought maybe if he was left-handed, he was autistic. We had a fellow with Down syndrome in our town, and his mom just thought he was Irish his whole life.

1:06:38And it was just crazy, man. Yeah, and he might have been, actually. He would dress him up in all these Boston Celtics shit all the time. Oh, it's crazy. Yeah, just different, yeah, different joyful outfits. That poet yesterday, the guy we were doing the show with I had green shoes on and he called me a leprechaun within 5 minutes. I had never met him before and called me a leprechaun It was terrible. Yeah he was kind of outgoing like that Yeah he was He had a couple of pops Do people get married young in Ireland? What's that like? Not so much I don't know. What's it like here? I feel like it used to be but not anymore Yeah like I would say 30s, early 30s Maybe.

1:07:19Nowadays. I know my parents got married when they were like 23, so I was just gradually growing up. Yeah, I guess I just wonder how the cultures are super different. Oh, yeah. In a lot of ways, I'd imagine. I mean, that guy Joshua the Pope, last night he couldn't drink. He was 20 years old. I mean, in Ireland, that is not the case. People can drink that early, eh? Well, 18, but, you know. Well, they let him in the pubs as well, some? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially down the country, like after the road bowling. Yeah. Everyone's getting in, I'd imagine. Yeah, dude. Yeah, cork was something. I couldn't even believe when we got there.

1:07:49I was like, this is so wild. You played the marquee too. That's great. Yeah. And the tent there. I played there one time. Yeah. It's brilliant. It was totally different. The acoustics were a little bit different in there. Do you have to change your set in a cultural way? Probably not, right? Oh, I learned stuff about like Belfast when I first got there. Yeah. And like the NRA. The IRA? Yeah. And the IRA. Yeah. Yes. And we learned about the IRA and like, yeah, like, ooh, up the raw. we learned about that. Yeah, yeah. And then we learned, fuck England was the big thing we learned. You were saying you could just lean on that whenever you wanted to do it.

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1:10:02The links will be on the YouTube. and again there's no commitment when you reach out to them but I promise you only something positive will come from you reaching out and figuring out if what type of help if any could benefit you thank you what are some musicians that you really admire I know that's kind of like no no no Hosier's a big one for me you know oh yeah he's playing here coming up at the pilgrimage festival oh I saw that yeah I was sad because I'll be gone but he yeah he just he's Irish and he oh wow yeah I think sometimes people don't know that I think I remember someone thought I was talking to someone recently they thought he was from here but he it's just cool he kind of blew up way before me and it's just a nice to see it's kind of a cool role model to have he just carries himself very well I think you know will you keep in touch or hit him up if you have any thoughts or something yeah definitely not even thoughts but just to talk I think artists don't talk to each other enough like I find it hard to talk to other artists sometimes because I feel like it's very we're all quite selfish and we're all so locked into our own existence that it's tricky sometimes I find it much easier to connect with people who are involved in sports, I think that's easier sometimes but he's, I don't know it's just cool for me to see him, he's got this huge career where he's got so many followers and supporters of his music but it's always just about the music, you know what I mean, it's just he's inherently him and I think that's a pretty cool thing and it's good for me to kind of like Just see that Follow it Yeah Definitely Yeah I'm trying to think of some other Irish musicians You too are obviously probably the biggest ever Oh yeah Of course Dude one time I went to Like the MTV Movie Awards or something Might have been Music Awards I think it was Music Awards actually So I got dropped off there I'm walking up And all these people start cheering right And I got like a pass Like through the artist pass or whatever And I'm walking up All these people are cheering and I just like in my head, I was like, these people are cheering for me.

1:12:05And I was like, what? And then I looked next to me and it was Bono. Were you talking to him? I said, nice glasses. That's what I said. Because I didn't know who he was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At the time, I was just kind of like, I was 19. I was like, I didn't have a clue. He's the best. You know, sometimes when you're talking to somebody that's so famous and has been for such a long time, you kind of feel like you're not getting it. There's nothing beneath the surface. Oh, yeah. with him it's the complete opposite you can tell like if you were talking to him he's just full undivided attention and gives feedback and will pay attention to you and stuff it's great oh I've met some of these guys Niall Oran who else oh the Cranberries Van Morrison Thin Lizzy are their best have you listened to Thin Lizzy oh man you like rock and roll you like the right place oh man Thin Lizzy is that's up yours Straza I'll have to get into that then Lizzy oh the best he passed away a long time ago but he the music's incredible wow the boys are back in town you know that song the boys are back where were they what do you mean like why were they where were they oh does he ever say that I actually do know yeah they're hanging down at Dino's is the lyric Dino's is here too but there's a Dino's like restaurant in Dublin oh yeah yeah that's where they were hanging out and where did they come back in town from yeah I don't know But I think about that all the time, and I always think about them.

1:13:31Going on tour back then, it must have just been like, see you soon. Imagine in the 70s, and no one knows where you are, no one knows how it's going, you're not on social media. It must be insane, and you just come back and kind of, hopefully it went well. Yeah, and I don't even know if you knew how well it went, really. No, never. You just get feedback every night, and then a lot of drugs and drinking, though. God, that must have been fucking fun, eh? Crazy. Did you ever struggle with any of the gear or whatever they call it over there? Nah, man, I find it like, I don't know. Again, like not to harp on about it, but I think sport was crucial for me.

1:14:03It was just kind of, I always, like a tour. When I tour, I'll often do kind of, I feel like it's not sustainable nowadays in music. It was different back then. Do you know what I mean? I don't know how heavily they toured and stuff, but nowadays touring is so key. Like you'll just, I don't know, personally I wouldn't be able to sustain it at all. No. Even drinking, I gotta be careful. Yeah, I just think it'd just be impossible like to be hung on and then to the responsibility is getting to the next place. It just seems like... It's not worth it yet. Yeah. I don't know how people do it. No, I know.

1:14:33Yeah, sometimes, like, I don't know. I don't know how some artists do it, but I wouldn't be able. Even last night. Like, I'm tired today from just playing an acoustic set in a cafe last night. I'm very pedestrian. Yeah. Definitely. What about the love life, man? How does that look for you? It's solid and always has been. Not always has been, but for a long time. Oh, really? You've always been good with the ladies then? No. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, because that's kind of... I've always been good with one lady, yeah. Oh, you have? Not in a corny way. That's the corniest thing I've ever said. Do people know that, that you have a girlfriend?

1:15:01Yeah, yeah, kind of. I don't talk about it much, but I think if people wanted to know, they would know, yeah. Oh, so you had a lady then? For a long time. Wow. Yeah, yeah. I don't see, like, I'm happy to talk about it, but I don't see it as, like, a relevant part of my career. Do you know what I mean? I don't see it as something to promote. She definitely doesn't. So it's just our existence outside of my career. does it um feel does that inspire some of your music with some of the like the emo stuff or no what do you mean the emo stuff like some of the loving type stuff definitely all of it all of it um that's where it all comes from and and yeah yeah i never talk about it but it's all good what about you um i don't know dude i think yeah i gotta get a wife i i would like to get a wife I will say that I got to get some of my affairs in order.

1:15:56I got to get some of my affairs in order. This was like a follow on from the serial killer chat. This feels like, yeah. Oh yeah, dude. I've had it like, I, yeah. I mean, I date, you know, it's just hard. You're in town, you're gone. And then you're supposed to be like date, you know, it disappeared, like come back three weeks later. But I think that's one of the reasons why I stayed in comedy because I was like oh well i was had so much trouble like staying in relationships and being committed in relationships i was like this always gives me an excuse to leave you know yeah so it's like i gotta go you know and then you come back and they might have found someone else you hope they found somebody else oh really a lot of times so you can detach from it oh yeah yeah yeah you're like oh gosh good luck with stanley or whatever yeah i'm glad you found him yeah so things like that i think I'm trying to think of yeah I've just been I just had like I don't know it's just always hard for me to like trust somebody I think it was just like the hardest thing I just had no idea of how to do it yeah it was like a foreign practice trusting somebody yeah really anybody only romantically friends oh no it even goes over into work and everything a lot of times right yeah Yeah.

1:17:14I think I have to really, yeah, I don't know. Does it like take time? Yeah, I think it takes time. Sometimes you can tell with people kind of easy, but it's just been a tough thing for me over the years. Sure. And I don't even know why sometimes. It's a crazy line of work to be in too, right? Yeah. For that situation. Yeah, and then you're leaving her all the time or something. It's like so many of my friends have been divorced that are in comedy and stuff like that. I think it's just a tough go of it. Yeah, of course. Do you own any animals, Dermot? I have a dog called Tom. That's it? I miss him dearly.

1:17:51He's a puppy. Does he write? Does he write? Yeah, Tom, the writing dog. Yeah. He is the best. It's the best thing in the world. I always took the piss out of the emotional support thing, but I believe in it now. You know what I mean? Like emotional support dogs flying with them and stuff. Oh, you take them on planes and all? I haven't yet, but I will. Oh, you're looking forward to it? Yeah, yeah. You think like Noah can. And he was in Dublin with his big German shepherd. And I was like, if he can do that, I got to be able to get my little puppy on the plane. Wow, he took a German shepherd with him?

1:18:19Yeah, now it's a nice dog. It's like well-behaved. I think it sleeps under his legs while he's on the flight. Oh my God. Yeah, it's badass. That's beautiful. Yeah. It's the best thing. I don't know. Here's a Dublin zoo and let's help a breastfeeding mother is to encourage female orangutan bond with her newborn. So this is happening over by you guys. Brilliant. Well, not brilliant. What app did this monkey or this woman off of? Because this seems like, and if those are Irish breasts, brother, they're full cream. I'll tell you that. They have, dude, I saw some breasts over there. You did? Oh my God.

1:18:58It's like, just like, I'm coming home. Tell the world I'm coming home. It just feels like the root of time started in them. Right, right, right. Lovely. I mean, God, they just like the fucking, just beauty, just like the eyes of the moon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just those fucking front hammers, baby. You'd see some goddamn, I mean, you'd see, they literally look like they were sculpted out of like, you know, just a fine fucking thick yogurt. This is wild. You thought you said there's no women. Oh, but when you saw them, you fucking. And there was one? They would break, yeah, or they'd see, yeah, you'd see a fucking shadow coming over you and it'd be a big tit.

1:19:43A woman would have leaned out of a window to look for something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You had your eyes peeled constantly. Make sure a man was still at the pub, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because the pubs, yeah, I mean, I went into a pub, no furniture, a bunch of guys holding each other up, fucking just yelling and drinking. Yeah. No furniture. You would go into a pet store, no pets, seven people drinking in there. Just drinking. Talking about animals. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What? Everything there is just people having a beer, man. It's funny though. You know, like, do you ever see the way Italians like live to be really, really old?

1:20:16Because they all just hang out constantly. I like to think Irish people are kind of like that too. We just need each other. There's all these like small communities and stuff. They need somewhere to gather. Yeah. Music's part of that. And I grew up in New Orleans and there people were drunk, vomiting. You didn't see it in Ireland, man. Puking? Yeah, I didn't see a lot of it. Oh, there's plenty of people. Oh, there is. Oh, yeah. Oh, and they do it all at once or something? I would say it's just like you maybe missed it. There's plenty of it, though. Yeah. Yeah. It's the worst feeling in the world.

1:20:43It's crazy. I would say that nearly keeps me away from drinking too much is the puking. I fucking hate it. Well, the first part of puking, I don't like. You start to get this little sweat out of the middle of your neck or tongue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or the saliva. It's like the saliva all over again. Yeah, it's like your saliva starts to be like, hey, guess what? Fuck you. You're in trouble. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're in trouble.

1:21:06yeah that's pretty hellish um so i like how you take moments to think oh just scan your mind i don't have a choice yeah yeah yeah yeah i wish i could just call upon it yeah man my brain retired years ago years ago um yeah and some of the names in our life i feel like people are trying to be have the most Irish name. You'll meet like somebody A-O-I-F-E. Aoife. Aoife, yeah. And that doesn't really spell that. We were talking to someone yesterday called Aoife. It's N-I-A-M-H. And that's not anything. So it's like you have to have real names if you're even gonna... You should guess some. These are very run-of-the-mill.

1:21:51You got some spicier names. Very hard to spell Irish names. But without the answers. Alright. All right. Count. Count me. Count me. Count me. Quiver. All right. Nope. Siobhan. That's nice, but it's Siobhan. Siobhan. Okay. I didn't know they had black people there. All right. Rory. Rory. That's nice. Yeah. Rory. Oh, Rory. That would be like Rory. D-H. What are you? It's like silent. Okay, they spelled it so you know at home, R-U-A-I-D-H-R-I. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they don't spell it like Rory. The next one, T-A-D-G-H, ta-da.

1:22:43Taig. Taig. Taig. Taig. Okay. And the next one, N-I-A-M-H, Noah. No, Neve. Neve, okay. Just N-E-E-V, Neve. And then the next one Another one that's not real S-A-O-I-R-S-E Siri Saoirse Saoirse Oh this is unbelievable And then I'll do this last one Because I've seen this one before These are good now Okay here we go to G-R-A-I-N-N-E Granny Granya That's the closest you've been Oh that's beautiful actually Yeah And this one right here Is not anything but I'll read it. B-L-A-T-H-N-A-I-D.

1:23:34Blotnide. Blotnide. Blotnid. Blotnid. Yeah, you're doing all right. All right, here's one right here. C-A-O-I-L-F-H-I-O-N-N. Kevin.

1:23:51That one is even weird for me. I would say Quailin. Quailin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's just, Quail family. Everybody you meet over there, you're like, I'm quailing Madonna Gargi, you know. Yeah, yeah. But I see that here too. Oh, that's true. You know what I mean? Everyone. I was in the boot barn last weekend and there was a guy called Lachlan. Yeah. Yeah, and he was like, I'm Irish. You know, he just claims it, but doesn't know. You're like, no shit. Yeah. What about the new album? So are you working on a new album? What is it like for you right now? Yes, I am. I have written, I would say, 25 to 30 songs.

1:24:28Wow. Yeah, but it goes crazy. It's kind of like you can do as many as you want. You can do hundreds. And like, I know, do you remember that song that Rihanna had? I want you to stay. Not really sure how I feel about it. That song. No. I was with the fella that featured on that song. And huge success. And then his second album, he wrote 250 songs. So it's just like at what point do you kind of call it? You know what I mean? And then I've heard Billie Eilish do interviews where she says, if the album is 12 songs, I've written 12 songs and that's it. So I'd rather be like that. It's crazy to me, the idea of throwing songs out.

1:25:02I don't know why I would do that. So I've got a bunch now and I feel good about them. I never know. That's what I'm saying. It's like I analyze myself too much and I think sometimes I lose perspective and I could have the best song in the world, but I can't see it. And is there certain people you go to to get really clear perspective? No. No. I don't play music to anyone. Anybody. Yeah, because if it's good feedback, I'll be like, yeah, I know. and if it's bad then I'll be aggressive wow so what about a management or an agent or anything yeah some of that but then that's hard too right because you kind of question like what are people's criteria you know to me I only care that it's good but then they might be like oh this song could be successful and it's like what does that mean right you know it could stink but it could like it could send me down the wrong path musically but it could make money on the radio I don't know so you gotta do the right thing And do you Will you choose a certain number out of those?

1:25:57Yeah I like 10 I know like I've seen like Morgan Wallen's album with like 37 songs And stuff I don't know if I'm able for that kind of thing Yeah I mean yeah Different people have different stuff Definitely Yeah I wonder like Yeah would I be scared God it's just gotta be so scary putting an album out It's gonna define your life For two or three years you know It's almost like throwing a stick of dynamite into a room or something. Definitely. And then what if you don't hear anything? It may not go off. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, you never know. I think like, yeah, that definitely scares me sometimes.

1:26:33And it might not happen. You know what's almost even worse is that middle of the road. Kind of just like some people like it and boring. Yeah. For me, what's funny is like I've never had a song go crazy. Do you know what I mean? Like I've never had a song. Like I play big venues in most places, but like I can walk around all day and no one knows who I am. So I think I kind of exist in a sweet spot to some degree. You know what I mean? Yeah. I think for me, it's like a careful what I wish for scenario sometimes because my life is still very normal, but then I get to go on stage and do very abnormal things.

1:27:06You know, like if I had to stay in my hotel room all day, cause I can't, that would make me sad. Definitely. Yeah. You're almost like Clark Kent kind of, you know, or clay or the clay. Yeah, quail and kinship. Yeah, I just, just because you have some anonymity still. Definitely. There was one time you do have a chip on your shoulder sometimes though. I do. Like I was playing for a football team in New York and we were at training one night and one guy was like, are you playing shows or whatever? And I was like, yeah, I'm playing a show at the garden. And he was like, oh, cool. Are you like part of a bigger bill?

1:27:41Are you supporting somebody? And I'm constantly just like, no, it's my show. Like, People will be there, hopefully. So I think people are constantly surprised how big the shows are because I don't feel like a very famous person, which is lovely, honestly. Yeah, I think you seem like a pretty regular demeanor. Nice, man. Which I think is probably one of the best compliments you can get. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then to go and have that many people show up for something, yeah, that's pretty freaking unbelievable. It's nuts. I think if I feel lucky in the sense that before I did all this, if I had a checklist of what I wanted, I feel quite lucky.

1:28:18I feel like I've ticked most boxes, which is nice. You know, my life hasn't changed. I get to play to lots of people. I get to decide what music I put out. That feels good to me. Yeah, yeah. How long do you think your album will come out? Or do you have a plan on it? Does it matter? I don't, I'm trying not to care. It matters, but I don't know how it works to people. Yeah, definitely. Oh, you do? Yeah, like, will people stick around? You know what I mean? Like, I think music, you kind of have to stay relevant and stay present and release music all the time. You know, I think it's, I think you have to kind of do stuff constantly and constantly bring stuff out.

1:28:57But you got to be careful too, because if people just get bored, you know what I mean? I would love to, I'd love to bring out an album, definitely in less than a year, but I'm not in a hurry to do it either. I would rather have a good one. You know what I mean? I don't think it needs to be just, constantly doing it. And the tour off of it, yeah. Like we've been doing touring very slow. We'll do like chunks. Yeah, I see some. It's taken three years now to do the tour. Oh man. But it's fine. Yeah, people don't care. As long as you show up, people don't care. Yeah, it's like, and it's been good. And I couldn't handle doing like a seven month tour or something.

1:29:28I've seen like, who did I see? I saw Matt McCusker's tour. And it was just every weekend, like a couple of shows. I was just, that must be so sweet to do shows and go home. But music, you can't do that because you got like a band and crew on the road and you're paying everyone every day. so you'd be bankrupt immediately yeah that's true you gotta do it all yeah definitely when you have such a squad how much do you have a big band supporting you when you go out there's what is it there's like six of us on stage all Irish no two of us Irish and then everyone else is from Australia Switzerland and the UK yeah pretty diverse yes indeed but it's important like you you kind of even though it's a solo project I think it has to feel like I hate when a songwriter, it looks like it's them and their employees, I think that's crap.

1:30:14I think it makes for a bad musical connection. I think you wanna feel like a band. Yeah. What makes that happen? I think, I mean, bottom line, the way you treat people, you know? And you give people creative freedom, you let them play the way they want to play. I think if you stifle it and sort of restrict people too much, it stops being fun, do you know what I mean? I think people come to see my show to see that musical interaction. It's not just me playing. You know what I mean? I think it's weird sometimes when you see a solo artist and their band is just kind of in the background and not really part of the show.

1:30:51That's weird to me. Yeah. What, where'd you meet your gal at? Like what? 25 years ago, probably at home. No. Yeah. At home? What was she going door to door? no she wasn't but we were we were it's not your sister it's our we grew up in the same area and yeah it's a very like it's a very sort of high school sweethearts thing oh that's there is some romance right there then definitely there's something romantic about that and is that yeah I guess Ireland makes me just think everything seems like fairy tale over there a bit yeah sometimes too much certain movies and stuff you know yeah what was those I wonder if you're talking about Gangs in New York.

1:31:38That one's kind of cool, though. There was this movie recently, The Irish Wish or P.S. I Love You, those types of things. They're terrible, yeah. Get fucked. Yeah, if you found your wife in a wishing well or something, you're out of your fucking mind, dude. Could happen. You could do it. That's true, man. You need to go back. Oh, yeah. I want to go back so bad. I want to do a couple more spots there and maybe do one more. I think I owe a little bit better of a show To maybe Belfast It was good But I think I wanted you know you just want to do it better Yeah I like the way you say I tried my best At the end of your shows I think that's good Yeah thanks man I think I usually I definitely 99 % of the time I feel that way That I tried my best now the outcome sometimes Yeah but then That sentiment stands above everything right Like even if it doesn't go the way you want it to Yeah tried my best People appreciate it too Yeah I think people appreciate it I think so That's probably a good point What will you do when you get back to Ireland Like what's something you look forward to doing I will Like To write music every day And to be like In the studio every single day I know it's a very privileged thing to say But it's a very taxing thing I get tired of it So like I'll go Just Where I live is in the middle of nowhere So I'll just be in the forest every day with the dog Do you have a dog?

1:32:57No I would like to get a dog As soon as I quit touring Yeah In like seven months, I'm going to try to get some kind of dog. It's the best thing I've done. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. It's just like a companion. It kind of, it's a nice injection of real life as well. And amongst all the weirdness, it's just nice. Like, and it's this thing that would die if you didn't look after it. So it's kind of, it's a powerful feeling. You guys got a, is it a staffie over there? What you got? No, teeny little scruffy terrier. No. Yeah. And it's a rescue. Oh yeah. Yeah. Everything is in Ireland. I'm a rescue. Yeah.

1:33:26If he's a male, is he? He is male. Oh yeah. God. he's still got his cojones well he won't be using them there's no girls that's true there's nothing I'll have to bring them to America Dermot Kennedy thanks so much man thank you very much thank you for having me I appreciate it thank you for all the awesome music man thanks for like yeah just kind of sharing like whatever you can to the best of your ability yes sir that's kind of how I feel when I listen to your stuff and yeah I had a great time thanks for inviting me last night and yeah thanks for the ticket dude it was awesome not at all thanks for going Thank you, man.

1:33:59Yeah, cheers on you, bro.