AI Demos: Gemini Gmail, Search GPT, Groq with Voice & Playground | E2001

30:36I said, can you help me write an email to Jason Galcán is inviting him to Vegas to play poker. Be very convincing. But it says, sorry, I can't generate emails to celebrities. Well, I mean, fair enough. But I'm writing an email to you and it should know that you and I email all the time. we're on an email thread. That is a fail. And I'm not a celebrity, so. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. So I think, I mean, it's gotten a little weird. I will tell you, I was like, you know, when it gets weird is when, you know, it's not that somebody recognizes you. It's when like three people in a row recognize you.

31:11So I literally was at soul house in Austin. I was just hanging out with a friend of mine, Will Barnes, who's a VC. And, uh, I get up from the table to leave. And I had known it, you know, you notice people are kind of like clocking you. I noticed that cause I'm, like from brooklyn i just always keep an eye out yeah yeah head on so i get up and these two guys beeline it for me they say hi the person at the next table gets up and says hi and then as i'm walking out the third person gets up and i said uh matt you know like because i had to ask for selfies i was like sure i'll take a selfie she goes no no i don't want to take a selfie i want to know who you are and i was like okay i was like listen it's just a stupid podcast or whatever and i and i she's about i guess i tell her the name all in yeah she goes oh my boyfriend listens to that yeah and i was like okay three for three there you go that's when you know it's getting a little bit weird take it all in jason take it all in all right i mean you know i'm gonna take it down to a b minus because i needed to i'm uh we're we are organizing a poker game in vegas and i need to write you a convincing email and so i mean you convinced me already i've used vegas and poker and you yeah three of my favorite things yeah we'll do it we'll do it awesome i can't wait all right all right so let's keep going here so jason this is one where i think you're really gonna like it uh and i don't know if you've started using this yet or you've been enabled and if you haven't it's really it's really useful so same thing here um chat gpt has this new function called search gpt and so you can say tell me about the uh oh are you in search gpt yeah yeah yeah i didn't let me In the end, it's only the wait list is over.

32:45So this is perplexity from them, right? Yeah. In Austin during September. Okay. Here we go. Tell me about upcoming concerts. That's a pretty good query. Yeah. Upcoming concerts. Wow. And so, you know, basically it's breaking it down, right? You've got Incubus coming. Oh, you got Green Day. You can go and do that. Okay. No links, though. Yeah. So, you know, you've kind of - Percifications. Huh. Yeah. but it's kind of giving you some some and so like you know you could do the jcal thing as it can do uh put these results uh in a table okay and then do yes citations yeah okay i mean this is impressive um if it's correct i'm assuming it is i'm don't know where it's getting it from but it does look like i add citations and links yeah great let's see what it does oh yeah add citations and links to purchase tickets and uh well this is where if you click on one of those okay it says purchase tickets i don't know what link it's going to give you yeah so this is where you know i'll do uh i'll do incubus okay incubus there you go okay okay perfect yeah perfect um yeah amazing and green day let's see song oh song kick intro that's uh except all the cookies okay let's see yeah i'm just an awesome okay yeah so i mean it knows i mean what it's doing to be clear is it's searching the web it's got its own crawl we know it's crawling right that's how it built the language model so it's got a crawler the open ai crawler has some number of these pages already indexed correct it's in its index it's not pulling them live i think they're i think they're doing a new crawl now for this right for this okay and they may have partnerships they may have built own i mean they've got all kinds of resources right so uh and and you know we know there's different ways to do this because we've seen other companies do it wait it says set a search engine what is that oh i think this you know it lets you uh set i mean i oh yeah if you click that it will set it up as your default search engine that's crazy yeah yeah okay well yeah so here we go it does that now explain to the audience what you think is happening here behind the scenes you have a new crawl and then it's taking those web pages and then saying what to the inference engine?

35:06Yeah. So great question. So what most of these things are doing is like following a form of reg. And in this particular case, what happens is the user asks something, the LLM figures out what the user is asking, and then the LLM has access to what we call tools, right? And those tools can be anything, right? And this is a really big sort of shift in paradigm and how people are building software. One of those tools would be a web crawler. Now you can use for the web crawler, there's existing services like, you know, SERP API and all these other folks that exist. You know, Brave has one too, or you could build your own, right?

35:44And so my guess what's happening is when you put the query in, it realizes that it needs to basically use a tool. In this case, the tool could be very specific. It could be very generic in that I got to go crawl the web, or it could be a very specific tool that's built looking for concerts so if they you know if i was building it i'd build lots of different tools so that i could i could make them better versus one generic one which may not be good for across all these things and so and rag is retrieval which is like getting that data that data together and then the second step is augmented generation based upon what you retreat so there's two steps going on when you do rag correct exactly that's why it's like it's kind of written it's like the generation was sort of part of the first part where the guy asked him what to do, then it does a retrieval to augment that generation.

36:31So you're not just getting results only from its training data. It knows how to go and use a tool. That tool will then go and do a search that will send results back to the LLM and the LLM will reason over those results and create a much cleaner result here. Like you see on perplexity or you see right here with chat. So in this case, it got tickets, it got concerts. It knows concerts and tickets somehow are related to SeatGeek and Songkick and other places. Boom. And then it retrieves that information. These guys could have done deals. We don't know, right? They're out there. A lot of folks are doing deals as well right now where they've just done deals with these folks too.

37:07Well, this is, I think, the innovator's dilemma that we were talking about for Google, which is Google's results don't feel like generative AI. They feel like blue links or some documents reported back in tables, et cetera, depending on what you're doing, flights, shopping, you know, tickets for stuff, et cetera. But this is a new feeling, right? This is a different feeling. And do you perceive that users want this type of experience where it's almost like they had an assistant do the searches and put it into a Google doc? Doesn't that feel like what's happening here is that there's a research assistant between the search engine and the human?

37:45It's a really, really insightful question. Here's what's happening in terms of how we're interacting with the internet. Before, you know, really modern search engines, we had Yahoo, which was just an organized set of links. Exactly. In a taxonomy. And you kind of had to go through and find stuff. Then you end up with search and different companies try different algorithms. Google comes up with a really good one called PageRank, which basically, you know, a quick summary is it looks at the links between pages to determine the ones that may be the most relevant. Authority. Yeah. Exactly. because they're referenced across other pages.

38:22Now the internet has content that's not always referenced, right? Because, you know, page rank is not as, you know, as relevant because there's well-known sources and things like that. And what's really happened is the way we interact is still kind of in that progression where we were in terms of, obviously no one goes to a directory anymore, but people still use search and they hunt and peck through a bunch of listings. And what I think people want now is like, you know, how many times you just find it, give me the just damn result of what I'm trying to look for. Yes. Solve my problem. It solved my problem, right?

38:55It's interactive. And so, you know, even what we were just talking, I had it add like a rating for each of these, right? I don't know what its basis was, but it added, you know, 4.5 out of five, 4.3 and you know, whatever it happens to be, right? Ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah. Well, actually here, do this, say at a column with a link to their YouTube page and their Twitter hand. Let's just see if it can actually do that research task, right? Let's see if he can do it. You know, this is something Gemini did well for me, but you know, it's trying to link to a YouTube channel. We broke it. So here you go.

39:27Once again, J-Cal broke it in the first instance. So Sam Altman still worked to be done here, but you know, I do have great success with this with chat cheap D4O, not the search engine. I do have success with this with Jeannie. Yeah. Really good. Okay. Do another one here. Give me the top 10 barbecue joints in Austin. All right. I'm using joints to see if it can navigate. You should be able to figure that out. Yeah. I think so. Here we go. Franklin. la barbecue those are definitely up there terry black number three yeah these other ones i don't know but that's okay and uh yeah i don't see the salt lick there it is there's so it is yep now put um include the yelp rating now this is taking ip from yelp this is a pretty contentious issue let's see what happens here include the yelp rating for each and it could get the yelp rating from somebody who wrote a blog post about the yelp ratings um but here we go the address and the yelp ratings coming in uh so yeah and if you said sort by yelp rating that's pretty crazy if it does it yep that's i mean right about now i think jeremy stoppelman is writing a letter a cease and desist no maybe they've done a deal we don't know it's possible yeah i mean but this is what i want from yelp i mean i know i'm like you know i know everybody's like yelp what are you talking about but i'm also i love yelp i trust the data on there and i do all kinds of searches like this but this is a this experience would make me not go to yelp yeah so you know we're we're kind of and i remember we did this and you're putting can you add the distance from the proper reach yeah so that's where you like to stay i guess and yeah here we go yep there it is 2.5 miles yeah 1.8 miles yep that is accurate and crazy so here we go folks i give this um a minus okay well we broke it on the youtube thing so that's why i'm kind of giving it an a minus it okay yeah i okay it feels i mean it's a b plus a minus i mean okay the way i'm looking at this is we did two searches you did one for concerts i did one for barbecue both of them gave great results so i'm just basing it on did i get a great result or not kind of did if you were to ask it what's another thing you might ask a search engine how much is a business class ticket from san francisco to dubai in november let's see over thanksgiving there we go perfect weekend love it spelling mistake as well this is it's okay business class to dubai 1700 to 700 is about right yeah um and it's getting this from other airlines yeah what's getting it from a blog post and then i guess it might have if you click on oh yeah look at that remember they had that concept of apps yeah and we reviewed it early on very early on yeah very early on it looks like instead of adding the apps they're just built in scroll down there's three logos at the bottom sources and the sources have the favicon and oh wow you click sources and it gives you the actual pages it pulled it from yeah it's just pretty great it's um google's in trouble um if you know this gets much better yeah what does this need to do in order to get people to switch from google well i think kind of you know we've already touched on one part of it right it should be personalized so like it should already know that i have travel coming up to dubai and and i have to go there based on my calendar and all those kind of things like the agentic side of it and then really i just wanted to book right there's so much pain that i Like, you know, we've been booking travel for so long, but like that last bit, we don't really think about it, but it ends up taking like 30 minutes, Jason, right?

43:10Like, you know, from the minute you decide on the flight to the time you get booked all the way through. So imagine you could just say, book me that ticket. That's what you mean by agentic, meaning an agent does it. So agentic is evocative of an agent. Is that a new word in the lexicon or is that a word that existed before AI agents? I think people have been using it a long time, but it's definitely been attached to the AI world in terms of how we expect these to work for us. I was fascinated when I learned a new word because agentic is not something that I've heard anybody ever say. And I guess there is a psychological term, person's ability to control their destiny and actions and a mindset that allows someone to follow orders from an authority figure.

43:55agentic person a person who is self-organized proactive self-reflective and self-regulated interesting or it's been co-opted now by the ai industry uh agentic i like it um yes i'm going to give this i'm going to go back i'm going to give it a b plus i like what you're saying which is it has to do a little bit more now when everybody freaks out oh my god it's the end of google what i want to remind people is habit and google can improve and is improving and they're investing a lot on this so even if chat gpt is six months or 12 months or 18 months ahead of google just like when you know i met this young woman uh bagging groceries while going to school uh just bagging groceries at night going to school during the day lots of respect there you know and she's not even using chat gpt 4.0 they're not teaching her in school and they're not forcing her to use it it's going to take a little while right yeah in order to switch from one service to another something has to be, in my mind, not 20 or 30 % better.

44:53It has to be two or three times as better, which is 200 or 300 % better. So to dislodge Airbnb, to dislodge DoorDash, to dislodge Google search, to dislodge eBay, it takes a lot. It takes a lot to get people out of a habit. That's why Craigslist still exists. eBay still exists and thrives. PayPal still exists and primes and amazon with the worst interface the kludgiest most disgusting interface in the history of interfaces is still magical and people are still loyal to it so this has to get a lot better let's do one more let's do your headphone one that's always a good one um i'm looking for the best headphones for listening for to high fidelity music money is no object give me the top five in a table with the price and common reviewers notes yeah common pros and cons perfect i think it's good and rating perfect so this is like a multi-step and oh my lord this is pretty amazing the top five high fidelity phones for autofiles focal utopias focal bathys i have the utopias right here and i have the batte's uh the batte the focal utopias are five thousand the bathes are seven hundred you can go to headphones.com they're not a sponsor but they uh they're friends of mine five thousand dollars holy cow yeah i mean they have them right here and when you listen to music on these yeah okay your brain melts and then these are the seven hundred dollar versions they're both focal is um this wow um well it's a great story the the guy who started headphones.com had a different domain name but he saw me interview alex from com.com and i talked about the value of a domain name and how to negotiate domain names he negotiated it and then he um as a gift to me years later sent me these headphones wow um and uh focal's a fan and they sent it as well i usually don't accept free stuff but the guy was like listen well the guy said listen i if i had he said he had no sales because nobody trusted his website when it was like headphones bestheadphones.org when he finally was able to negotiate headphones.com i think he started making tens of millions of dollars so he's like trust me i can afford it um can you add sources perfect yeah in this case it didn't give sources but yeah headphones.com comes up wow there you go um so when it's giving all these great you know these are all the sources it used wow so jason you look at that's why i pulled this one up just as one last one so i'm gonna say b plus you know and you know what i think is a big part of this okay is returning stuff without ads cruft pop-ups cookies a big part of what you're seeing open ai and chat gpt do here is remove and present information in a prettier way google results are organized but sometimes cluttered yeah and then when you click on certain websites they're pretty gross right yeah you go to a content website that's not a subscription service and it's like yeah oh my god how many ads how many pop-ups audio all the stuff so you can make a great business by just removing all that look at this this exact same thing in google yes yes and um it dumped us into their search which you know it's it gives you on the left here it's giving us the shopping experience by default yeah and you know this is not terrible but to my point this looks unorganized this is maybe more powerful for doing searches you know but according to you jason the results that we had in the yeah this is not the right results right um i think these are because it's sponsored the first one and you know chat if he doesn't do sponsored that's yeah go back to the google one for a second i think what you're seeing in the google one is the fact that they're making money so these you know focal is not trying to sell them so they're not in this list but if you scroll down and you know we i gotta i gotta go read the wire cutter or i gotta go through this reddit thread you gotta go to reddit thread or to pc magazine all these other locations you're gonna no way yeah so you know this is if you summarize all those other pages and those people get no traffic you know now we're back to the ip issue which is i didn't need to click on any of those sources when it represented this information and so yeah but maybe there needs to be some compensation to piece because and it didn't give us the sources here so this is highly unfair what they're doing in my mind but it says this is it it says you had to ask for the sources i had to ask yes yeah okay so it didn't put them here by default so i just want to give a note the open ai team i know this is beta but this is profoundly unfair and you're taking all the value away from the people who did these reviews so you got to compensate them somehow to ingest them which is what i think they're doing right uh they've done a bunch of deals now i don't know if they did deals with headphones or pc magazine or tom's hardware but they're gonna need to have done that you can ask this i can ask him no i know they haven't there's no way they've gotten down to you know the long tail or the meat the fat tail the medium tail they're just got the top they've done like deals with news sources but this is unfair when you think about fair use wouldn't you say you know like here here's here's what i don't really fully know i i think if they're not paying the sources then yeah there's a problem because the people that are incented and you know it's crazy because i don't know if you saw this today but did you ever use a site on on tech you must yes it shut down today yeah a non-tech shutdown 27 years it's because you can't well because journalists cost you know 50 to 150k let's say the average journalist makes 75k if they make 75k and they you know there's 50 weeks in the year you've got to make triple their salary double their salary to have a business let's say double their salary is 150 you got to make three thousand dollars a week off of their content you know three thousand dollars a week at a fifty dollar cpm you know it's a lot of views and so these websites are upside down now um they cannot afford to pay the journalists to do the work and uh this is going to break it even further um when it just gives you here's the top five go go buy them yeah and then they're going to you know what's going to happen obviously chat gpt is going to charge people to be the link so independent of where it got the information they could just say anytime focal utopia comes up and the price of it will link to you or they could just say would you like clicks that are related to headphones.com anything that's headphones related we'll just send the traffic to you for a dollar a clip for ten dollars we'll be an auction and they just start embedding clicks here so this could be pc magazine wire cutters and wire cutter and open ai are suing this could be based on their content and it probably is and they'll be able to prove this pretty easily i think and then if open ai puts a revenue model on this like links out in an auction you would have stolen somebody's content and then slapped a link on it yeah so let that sink in this isn't monetized yet outside of the fact that you're paying 20 bucks a month to remove all the ads and have a cleaner experience but in a way they are monetizing it with that subscription so this is going to be when if when this search engine comes out i think you're going to see 10 times as many lawsuits against open ai so they got to be really there's a reason why they didn't open this to everybody this is lawsuit central okay there you go folks i give it a b plus it's it's compelling um i'm not stopping google for it but it might take a couple of my searches away from google yeah i i personally think perplexity is still better and perplexity is upset that founder is upset about chat gpt rug pulling him i noticed yeah well i don't yeah it's like But look, that's just the era we're in right now, but it will maybe come down to user interface or something like that as well, right?

52:58Because maybe you're right, it'll come down to who can cut the best deal with all the data sources, right? I mean, when you frame it that way, it's easy to, you know, I'm more on the technology side, you kind of lose touch, you're like, yeah, just go crawl this stuff and put it in there. But like, you know, when you see an un-tech shutdown, you're like, man, that's real people, that content is gone now. well there's not going to be anything added to it so who does the next well that's what i meant like yeah the historical stuff will be there but when the next x cpu or whatever comes out we're not going to get there anymore nobody review it's over yeah that's the and then they're like synthetic data i was like what am i going to do with synthetic data like yeah it doesn't help me you're just going to give me a bunch of made-up bs that doesn't help anybody yeah let's do another review okay this is great we got through the chat gpt search we got through linkedin google this stuff is really starting to hit the mainstream it is everywhere right now right and so okay all right this is one i actually have on my phone you know my first company was in apps and so this one hits close to home for me and so this is with claude and it's kind of building on something we showed before but we're there they continually do really awesome stuff and so i'm gonna basically say uh you know, can you make me a bill splitting app and use from my phone?

54:20And so, you know, this is a very simplistic example. And what you're going to see now is using that same artifact feature that we talked about before. Yeah. I know it made me a real-time app. So let's just say it's$100. Give a weird number, like$126.72. and number of people um let's say it was five and split bill and there we go let's zoom out here so you're making a can you make me a bill splitting web app yep yep and each person should pay you know so there's five of us and each person should pay 23 you know thing now what's awesome is you can say actually uh can you add a tip section right um and just So you're literally making a web app that somebody would have written over a weekend 20 years ago.

55:14And look, now anytime you have a problem, Jason, so what I'm going to challenge you here is, and so now it's the same thing. So say our bill was$127.65. Now put a 15 % tip in. We're going to give you a dialogue to pick from the most common ones. So where is it getting this knowledge and information from? Is there an open source page? Did somebody make a tutorial? how do you think it had this information in its model okay so um i think there's a few things going on i think all of these folks are crawling open source code repositories sure and then two there are companies like source graph who actually make code available as well right to to these uh folks and so i think they're just kind of building up their strength there's so much open source code out there at this point, right?

56:06That, you know, they're putting together all the bits and pieces of making these, you know, simple applications and functions and features. And so, um, I'm, if it hadn't, you know, indexed and, you know, ingested into the model, all that open source data, it found on somebody's GitHub that they had built this before. And it essentially is spitting it back out to us. I'm not convinced. I think the models are so good. Now it didn't have to have seen a web tip calculator oh so it knew what a calculator was maybe or exactly it knows that what a concept of a bill splitting app bill splitting is it knows how what adding tip is it knows how to do the math and so i think these are getting so good now that it wouldn't have to have seen this before got it so yeah because you know if you're writing code for something like Like, how do I make, you know, an image gallery where people can upload five images and then put it in a carousel?

57:04It's like, there's a code base, an open source repository for uploading multiple images from your camera roll. There's a repository, an open source library, whatever, an SDK to do image correction or to present the gallery. So, you know, that's always been a hack for developers is to find those things and adopt them. But here you're saying it actually understands what this is. a calculator is this and this calculator is supposed to do y and it just does it it's pretty impressive when you think about it yeah and so what i suggest for you jason just a little task for you and maybe other team members like anytime you're doing something now you're like oh i wish had an app to just do that just try it so you should definitely sign up for claude and be in there i am paying for flawed ai but they have an is their app good their app is excellent because like i said you could do these things and so next time you have kind of like a a weird um make an app make an app right i love it great idea i mean i gotta give this what what do you give it what's your what's your ranking here this is a for me you know because i was about to say b plus or a minus yeah like you know i'm gonna give you an example because i know you're doing this out in the in the new life uh that you're having like you could make a custom app if you're barbecuing something or if you're like doing a you know let's just say you know you want to task manage yourself and you're going to cut the lawn and feed the animals and whatever else you're going to do.

58:25Yeah, all the ranch work. Make me a ranch management app. Yeah. And just for that moment, just for today. Yeah, just for now. And say, for each one, put a counter and say, I'm going to cut the lawn for 30 minutes. I'm going to feed the animals for 25 minutes. Crazy. So, right? I mean, I'm really blown away by this functionality. It's pretty crazy. does cloud have the best app development ai you think well what i think they've really brought together incredibly well is a really powerful model so you gotta give them kudos for that but they've brought that like exit like you know it executes it for you right and so not only is it like right because you know all of these have been writing code and we've done plenty of examples like that i think we did a calculator one quite early on but like for it to just run it on your phone as a little web app you know i think that that's well done really well done i mean and they also doing charting really well i noticed that they added charts to a lot of these language models now they have yep they've done that really really well i'm gonna give it a b plus out of the game oh my god jason i mean it might be higher but i haven't seen it do like a more complicated app so i'm leaving room for improvement i said b plus a minus maybe i'll give it an a minus i'll give it an A -.

59:38You give it an A +, Rene? I'm at A+. I think this is really cool. I started tweeting a bunch of these examples out. I call this the BYO era, like bring your own, or build your own. Build your own. And instead of hunting and pecking through, I hate getting those tip calculators in that because they always end up having ads and all that kind of stuff. and now you could do it and you could even give it like a weird thing like oh you know split the bill but make it like two thirds Jason and one third me because you know that's what we decided on. Yeah incredible awesome. Alright let's do one more you got one more interesting one for the fans let's do one more for the fans.

1:00:20One more for the fans yeah I do I do I actually got a couple. I'll do two more I got a really short Grok one that I want to show you as well. Oh great awesome. I think you'll get a kick out of yeah. Okay let's do playground this one this one's really really cool. Man and all this inference is getting really fast huh? all this inference is getting much faster. Yes. Yeah. So this idea of like waiting and waiting, I mean, for images, you're still wait and wait, but for text, it's pretty quick now. Yeah. All right. So basically, uh, so he'll, you know, he was a, um, previous multiple successful founder.

1:00:52He'd built like one of the, um, Google analytics equivalents mix panel, right. Is what the company he built before this. And so he's been working on this. It's really cool. Um, Let me pull it up here. And basically, it's image generation, but it's tied to, you know, he's kind of like formatted it in a way because like a lot of these places just too loose. And so it's like, oh, are you trying to do a social media post, a mock-up, a t-shirt? What are you trying to do here? And so you can go in here and basically what's awesome is there's a bunch of pre-built stuff, which is good to start with, right?

1:01:24But you can basically take something and say, I can take this one right here. And I can say, you know what changes? and say you know make this in a you know hue of blue right and um and basically um you know it'll go off and it'll do it pretty quickly and then it kind of takes you through the workflow to like create the thing that you want which is i think is really really awesome yeah so this is for making graphics graphics but you know i i like the way that dave um you know and so you can say you can apply this style oh wow yeah exactly and then you know you're just off to the races right and you say i have this i export it and you know you're good to go and so they've done a really good job i'm really really you know kind of playground.com yeah yeah playground.com great domain name and yeah good job um yeah and this is to create logos images yes just across the board yeah and you can start from a design and it's like canva it is but with generative ai at the core and you know and a bunch of like things to kind of inspire you to get started right which i i think is is really cool you can make t-shirts anything yeah pretty great yeah yeah and it's got a bunch of templates and you can just start with one of their templates and then work from there wow yeah pretty impressive uh i have to say and you can do memes all that kind of good stuff wow yeah amazing i love the memes the memes have great potential because what's interesting about the memes is they're taking famous memes yes and then allowing you to yeah mess with them yeah yeah so they have that famous meme of like the superhero uh with the two buttons but it doesn't look like the original it's pretty clear that yeah this one has been been through you know set up through ai and so yeah wow pretty pretty impressive stuff i'm gonna give that a b plus as well yeah i'm kind of the same place as you i think it's early and you know just the workflows are there but good start and i would use it and um you know really i mean sorry to graphic designers but you know i think when you started outsourcing graphic design around the world and it just plummeted in price you know it was a bummer for designers but people started to design more things there were more logos designed in the world there were more t-shirts designed you know in this long tail of stuff so you had this sort of abundance i think what's going to happen here is like all of this like commodified design is going to make elite design even more valuable so if people start making a ton of schlocky ai design or you know randomness um then somebody who truly has an aesthetic i think is going to stand out but it's going to be harder to stand out so like what is elite design is going to become an even smaller percentage of design because it's going to be such a sea of garbage it's kind of like on spotify like there's so much bad music that people are going back to old music looking for musicians who actually have talent so you can hear something that doesn't sound like it's all digitally produced from samples yeah amazing okay you got one last one you wanted to do you said one yeah one last one yeah let's do it okay so and this is just kind of like proof of concept of where you know i think uh this is going to go really really quickly and we'll have fun with this one i think i'm going to austin this weekend can you come up with a quick itinerary that touches on some good food places and some key sites I should visit?

1:04:47It kind of does that. Amazing. Can you put that in a table? My God, look how fast this is. This is using Grok, obviously. Can you add a column for duration?

1:05:04Amazing. You know what? I changed my mind. Can you change this to Houston? And so, you know, why I wanted to kind of show this, Jason, is like, when we're thinking and look like you're doing this in, you know, kind of launch, right? In the accelerator. This is probably where we're heading, right? Where the speed of iteration and the ability to change it and interact with it is, this is even faster than search, right? right yeah this is like minority report when he was or in blade runner where they're like zoom in zoom out do this do that yeah and like yeah this is 750 tokens a second yeah speed and that's not even our fastest we can go faster than that by the way this is such a game changer because it changes the whole nature of inquiring about information when it moves this quickly yeah and you know if you think about this with the glasses that are coming uh you know i don't know if you have the Ray-Bans from Meta, I really recommend you get them.

1:06:03They're super useful. They kind of have that bone induction audio and they can look at whatever you're looking at. So you can ask questions. I really think the user interfaces are going to really go more towards voice and vision in these types of ways. And we'll sort of look back and we'll be like those old folks that weren't using search. We were in some console typing things out, but imagine being able to iterate like this. So that was one of the things that the team has worked on. We've added voice and a bunch of other things so that that was pretty exciting uh that's an a plus for me man uh seeing that level of speed and stuff yeah no i you can give it a great i'm giving it a plus because this moves so quickly i could see this you know as it applies to making images video you start thinking about all the demos we saw today how much more powerful they would be yep and if i you know my wife and i have been using the chat gpt4 interface we drove to houston um to go do a couple tasks and while we were doing it we were asking questions about different health things and it was reading it back to us but it still was a little cb radio right it wasn't snappy enough kind of like gps used to be or photography used to be when it wasn't snappy you just didn't use it you only used it if you had to but when gps became crisp and fast and like it was accurate like you can't not use it you have to use it all the time so i think this is like of all the demos that last one is the one that's got me thinking, okay, this is going to get a little bit crazy.

1:07:30All right. This has been another amazing episode of This Week in Startups. You can follow Sonny. He is at x.com slash Sundeep. I am x.com slash Jason. We're on LinkedIn. You can send your AI to introduce us and everybody go to console.rock.com. And if you're a developer, go start playing in the playground. We'll see you all next time. Bye-bye.

1:07:54Thank you.