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0:00And I did that in Google Docs. We'll get to that in a second, but I just pasted that in here. Okay. This is a performance review for Greg. Right. Written by Google's AI. I'm going to show you that. And so I basically, I pasted it in here and basically you can see it did a AI detection. Of course, there's a hundred percent of it was written by AI. Oh, wow. Yeah. How does it know that? This Week in Startups is brought to you by Lemon.io. Get access to Lemon Hire, a platform with more than 80 ,000 pre-vetted engineers that you can interview within 48 hours. Get$2 ,000 off your first hire at lemon.io slash hire today.

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Welcome back to This Week in startups sorry we didn't have a monday madra for you i am traveling uh all over the globe and we had to tape our ai segment and our demos for you later in the week but sunny madra is back welcome back to the show sunny madra yes sorry about the delay here how's the travel been take go give us a fantastic you know i'm learning a lot um and it's been really a great eye-opening trip have a lot of conversations you know staying up till 1 a.m talking about technology and venture capital and politics and geopolitics and the pod and everything it's just crazy and what's been the mix between founders investors and fans like how does that what's the mix uh pretty pretty interesting i have to say you know i i get when i come to an industry event here because you know americans are not in saudi or uae dubai abu dhabi all the time i get a you know a hero's welcome and a lot of selfies and then just tons of requests to meet so i've been meeting with a lot of interesting companies i met with my new favorite startup it's called bread fast okay fast breakfast okay yeah but it's bread fast yeah it's uber for bread it's the greatest no way brand name ever once you hear bread fast you can never get this name out of your brain because it's breakfast but it's bread fast wow the bread sunny comes fast like an uber so basically they partner up like with local bakeries and get you your favorite i think they are the bakery and they are the uber layer so they get you your uh bread and so i met the founder they're doing like 100 million in bread in the region and um yeah and then he asked me oh where you're staying and i told him where i'm staying and then at like eight in the morning and knock on my hotel room door they give me three giant shopping bags full of every possible amount of bread you know so i have a little bread and uh you know i had a little chocolate croissant and then i gave my driver i got a driver here when them in the region um and uh i gave him eggs and bread he was really happy yeah quite charming um so shout out to uh all the founders i've been meeting with and uh yeah there's tons of lps out here family offices the family offices are absurdly sophisticated uh you know these are like family offices that have been running 50 years gorgeous since the inception of the region so they've been building real grinded out businesses like operationally hard businesses to like build the nation like concrete and gas and oil and pepsi and money transfer you know it's just been really eye-opening and the amount of change going on here social change economic change political change everything is just wild to watch there's graffiti behind you yeah well i'm in a really cool co-working space in riad called the garage that houses 150 startups i kid you not and i'm walking around you this is a yeah and and this is not like a fake thing like they're they're here working you know and taking selfies with me you know there's 35 million people in in saudi and they're really well-heeled customers with a really high arpu uh the average revenue per user and uh uae same thing you know it's smaller but a lot of revenue and then you get places like egypt with 100 million customers uh just waiting there to to engage with products and the american companies don't come here that quick so you know there'll be a local buy now pay later that's doing incredibly well there'll be firms that come here you know i don't want to say copycats but they'll build localized versions of other ideas from around the world yeah kareem being the delivery service here but then they put a spin on it so like kareem the local service here is like a super app you can press a button and have your apartment or house clean so like that whole uber for cleaning your house like that exists here right so they they kind of add to uh the mix and um yeah tremendous the startups here and the founders are kind of like i would say new york in the 90s if i had to pick you know like an emerging market like that where then you know the second decade you see like you know really big companies come out of it in the third decade giant companies come out of it it's kind of like australia is now you know or maybe before atlassian that kind of situation yeah so it's going to be a big story the startups coming out of here the investment coming out of here it'll be the number two region for venture capital investment wow and backing venture capital funds within 10 years i predict do you say like north america middle east europe that's what it'll become then asia that'll be the order yeah and i think europe is like just not gonna with the exception of like sweden you know and i just think they're just not as hungry um and the growth in population is occurring in asia southeast asia africa north africa so if that's where all the growth of customer is and those many of those markets are what they call uh emerging frontier markets yep and then above that is emerging markets those are the markets that really like you know if you invest in and you put products and services in those markets you're going to grow with those markets as they adopt technology and that's the jcal sweet spot too that's the jcal sweet spot there you go so it's um it's uh you know i'm not investing in any of these regions yet it's not part of our mandate yet uh but you know the the amount of interest you know this week in startups incredibly popular over there people watch this episode uh a couple people specifically mentioned the ai demos and they love them so let's get to it i mean yeah let's do it awesome all right okay so we got some great demos lined up today we're going to start with something that's boring but important and it's called Legal Now, especially, you know, we're talking startups, we're talking building companies.

7:00And one of the things that Silicon Valley law firms have done for a while is definitely partner with startups to kind of give you the package of goods. And the thing I've seen this current iteration is that still get that done, but, you know, firms are still pricey and it still costs you significant amount of money to get set up and sometimes you need some template things. And so this company is called LegalNow.xyz powered by AI. And you buy yourself the credits and they've got some pre-templated documents that can be created for you. Employment agreements for interns, like an equity incentive plan, terms of use, privacy policies, NDAs.

7:39You've done all these things before, right? Sales agreements, SaaS agreements. Yeah. And so I did one earlier here. I had this like internship agreement, right? The summer is going to roll around pretty quick. We want to get interns. And so basically it gives you the template here. You fill in the name of the company, the effective dates, and basically it spits out the document for you with all the pieces that you need and you're off to the races. So, um, there have been templated sites like legal zoom as an example. So how do you feel this is different in using, you know, AI to do this? Yeah.

8:15I mean, fundamentally, and like, you know, I thought the same thing when I was looking at it, it's a cost thing. And so, you know, legal zoom is great. Still way cheaper than using, you know, like a Silicon Valley law firm, but this brings it down and this lets you iterate it a little bit more, which I thought was, you know, pretty interesting. And you can basically ask for more edits through their AI, like assistant here as well and so you can kind of tune it a bit more like it's not a straight template that's what you'd sort of get out of legal zoom it allows you to sort of modify it for your use cases which i think is helpful yeah awesome yeah i mean a shout out to the legal now team uh this is going to get more and more interesting the thing i would love to see is upload all of your legal documents to a service like this and tell me explain them to me teach me what this means you know i think you could do that with claude you know if you uploaded a legal document hey you're a lawyer explain in bullet points to your client what each of these segments mean and you know i think do you think you need a vertical ai to do this or a general language model to do it well because legal stuff has big ramifications yeah i mean you know the interesting thing is there was some data that came out of one of the partners of open ai the open ai funded this company called harvey and one of their partners, like a large accounting slash legal firm, they basically posted the amount of savings they're getting by leveraging AI.

9:41And so what that says to me is, and that's built on OpenAI. So I think what you really want to do for these use cases right now is start with a, you know, a large frontier model, like OpenAI, and then give it some fine tuning information that you can, and then go from there. You don't have to start kind of from scratch and build something in this era. If you've ever had to hire developers, you know it is a giant headache. Are they built for the startup grind? How do you know? If you hire the wrong developer, man, maybe they're going to drag your whole team down. Maybe they take you down some rabbit hole and you don't know what's going on.

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10:50So just go to lemon.io slash hire, H-I-R-E, to get a special offer just for twist listeners$2 ,000 off your first hire that's right two grand off at lemon.io slash hire l-e-m-o-n dot i-o slash hire hire with confidence at lemon.io slash hire i've got another demo queued up uh for next week because i don't have it ready here which will do what you're saying but for your company documents so that's all your financing documents and everything else and so wow yeah it's gonna be very yeah we're very excited to share that look for errors look for things that contradict each other just explain things as well like you know tell me like the what share classes exist and who owns how much and all that kind of stuff so it's very cool we'll have that up for next week but uh very excited so let's go to the next one here all right so the next one is i i really liked a lot um and it's it's interesting because we're going to kind of flip back and forth between startups and some big company stuff today so this one is called rose.com think of it as a like an online spreadsheet like google sheets is yeah looks like google sheets yeah yeah exactly but it has ai built into it so you have this like little tab here and so you know i just got like a csv of some sales data okay the standard one that you use for testing and things like that i just inserted it into here and off the top it like you You hit this like little button right here, the AI analyst button.

12:18Yeah. What is it? Everybody uses this little like diamonds or stars in the sky as the AI button now. I don't know how that became the standard, but it's like a twinkling star. Yeah. I don't know. It's like kind of magic, right? Is it? Maybe it looks like magic, right? Yeah, sure. And so what this does here on its own, it does some quick insights, right? So without me doing anything, total number of units sold, average price, maximum unit cost, minimum revenue, and then it gives you some other deep dives you can do. So you can do deep dives by region. And this is all stuff it's doing on its own.

12:50And then it has like a text box here where you can ask questions. You can say, was the earliest sale, right? And so it'll kind of analyze the table and they'll come back with that result. And so I got that one wrong, but maybe the earliest order date, you know, what is the earliest order date? i love that it's anticipating with the quick insights other questions you might ask the maximum unit price the minimum usage price this is where you know look the idea is good right and um you know and you might have that data in there too yeah yeah yeah maybe there's i don't think so because this is like a well-published thing so we'll have we'll have to ask these guys to comment on it right or okay what uh that is the maximum number of units sold um um let's see if it kicks that one out for us but yeah there we go so that one kind of came out nine maximum number units sold was nine thousand yeah and if you said which month had the highest sales you know people like to know that question all the time from sales data yeah the highest sales um yeah be interesting i guess that yeah show me the table showing the month of the highest so this kicked out down here which is fascinating so we can say insert table and so oh no i got i got that wrong but the idea here is you know a couple fold like one you know this is near and dear to us like we do this for very very large data sets so not spreadsheet kind of style but like you're talking about definitive intelligence yeah exactly yeah exactly so we don't do it like on a spreadsheet level we do it like on a data warehouse level but you know this is a really interesting problem it's becoming more and more relevant for folks that have data and i think if you're dealing with spreadsheets like something like this is is the way to way to go for it and I give this a C it's, you know, it's not working too well yet.

14:37I give legal now like a C plus it's interesting. Maybe a B minus. What did you give it? You know, funny enough, I used it. So because I use it, I'm going to give it a B plus. Yeah. There was like a piece of documentation I needed for definitive. And I said, Oh, I just kicked it out of there. And, and it worked very related to the demo I showed you. So for, for an intern we're hiring, I said, well, you know, why should we go in? Yeah. And so I'm going to give it that. It sounds like a low risk. This is a very hard problem. Their UI and everything is excellent. but like you saw here, there are some things that aren't working.

15:06Rose, R-O-W-S.com. Not Rose as in R-O-S-E, the flower, but Rose as in columns and rows. Got it. Great domain name, by the way. Shout out to the Rose.com team for getting a four-letter domain name in the dictionary. That's about a quarter million dollar domain name. Yeah, maybe at least. Yeah, wow, that's great. I like the UI. I like how they anticipated things, but they didn't get things to work. So I think with that, we have to give them a C. Yeah, I gave a C. They can come back and they can improve it. So yeah, keep working everybody. Sharpen your fingers, keep working. I'm going to go to our next one, which I find this one really important because when I get things in my inbox now, I'm starting to get suspicious if it was written by AI or not.

15:49Yes, I have this problem right now. A lot of my replies on X feel like they were written by an AI bot. So this is called originality.ai. In fact, one of the next demos, I created a performance review and I did that in Google Docs. We'll get to that in a second, but I just pasted that in here. Okay. So this is a performance review for Greg. Right. Written by Google's AI. I'm going to show you that. And so basically I pasted it in here and basically you can see it did an AI detection score. It says 100 % of it was written by AI. Oh, wow. Yeah. How does it know that? that so well put in something from chat gpt4 and it figured it out yeah well this was from google wasn't from chat gpt so but yeah but it was from an ai writer and it put it in here and it detected it and um you know it costs four credits and so there's been a lot of published research because this has been a big problem since the release of chat gpt and so a number of folks have written papers and methods that can be used to determine if AI is being used.

16:55And my guess is, because we've talked about this a few times, the underlying data sources that came to provide the core of the training material are open source. If you use a model that has majority of that, I'm sure you can figure out that this has been written by an AI because you can see the same patterns so my guess is they're using ai to detect that this was written by ai uh they're using i detect it and so we we don't actually know how it's doing it it's said another way i mean those from them maybe we could have them come in and talk about it so i don't want to speak about their technology in too much detail they don't have a lot of details they have anything else on this one no it's just like a ai detector yeah just yeah i mean i'm giving it a b plus i think i mean i would like to know how it works but it looks like it works so yeah it does what it says it does so So what more do I have to give it?

17:47It's like a single purpose. I just want to give a shout out to our friends over at OpenAI. Look, I asked it to give me a performance review for Cousin Greg from Secession. Did you watch the session? No, I haven't watched it yet. Oh, okay. Cousin Greg's like a bumbling idiot, you know, trust on kid. And look, adaptability, fair. Demonstrates learning curve and adapts to the corporate culture of Waystar or Royco. Communication needs improvement. Often struggles with clear and professional communication prone to nervous rambling, which is true on the show. Yeah. Um, judgment exhibits growth in fair exhibits growth in judgment, but still displays naivete in certain strategic situations.

18:24I mean, uh, pretty, um, professionalism lacks traditional core professional, however, shows authenticity and interactions. That's pretty good. This is pretty great. I don't know if producer Nick is here. He's a big fan of succession and cousin Greg. What do you think, Nick? I think a big theme of this show is how much better chat GPT is than every other product that's out there right now. at least that's what it sort of feels like to me like it feels like chat gpt can do a lot of things better than verticalized ai tools by themselves and i wonder if there's like a i don't know i guess you could call it like a kanye west problem going on where and this is pre crazy kanye like everybody was always dubious about taking beats from kanye although because he was the world's best producer but you were always getting his like b material when you were using his beat because he would always use his best beats for himself and sonny i'm curious like do you think that open ai is using their best version of gpt whatever that is for their own models and whatever they're letting people build on is sort of a not nerfed but like slightly worse version of the model that they're using themselves like will they always have an advantage well you know it's interesting i was at a dinner last night we were talking about this kind of from a different perspective when you're using models right um there's two things that are happening and i'll get around to your answer long-winded but i think it's important for everyone to understand When you go to non-GPT models that you're using directly, like LAMA or something like that, you're basically interacting with the model itself.

19:51When you use OpenAI, you're actually interacting with an API. And that API could be doing and is definitely doing a lot of things beyond what the model can do. Right? And one of the things is that for GPT-4, I think it's well agreed that it's a mixture of experts models. So it's not a single model. There's a few models underneath the API and that gets kind of the request gets forwarded to the appropriate one. And so that's one of the things that you may be seeing just in the general use of GPT-4 versus other models that are out there. Now, specifically to your question around like when you use the API versus you use the chat, I do think that you're getting different versions because the APIs get locked to specific model numbers and versions.

20:36and you see that when you're developing with it. So I would guess that the latest and greatest are always out in their consumer offerings because the terms of service and the level of service are different than what they have to offer in the APIs. So that's a long-winded way of saying, yes, you're getting some different version of it. And who knows, maybe they could be sandbagging. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What did you give? Did you give a grade there? I, out of all, I've tried a few of these different ones. i'm going to give this one like a b plus like i i mean okay i don't know what like it's just it's a you know cumbersome you got a copy and paste but i i hope the you know folks that are out there that need to deal with this can use it i don't know what else it could do to be better um maybe it should just be like a plugin or something well yeah if it was a plugin and when you were surfing the web if it told you and showed you but that would require a lot of processing power you'd be processing everything everything yeah maybe just so if you were like in your gmail or something editor at the new york times it would be kind of cool if when you were on your computer editing things it was always showing you in the cms if it was edited or making it better yeah you know kind of like grammarly is always looking at any editing i'm doing and working on it so that's going to be kind of an interesting thing that yeah if everything you're looking at is being processed by ai in real time yeah but it could embed in a model locally that runs on your machine like you don't have to go to gpt4 right they could take a smaller model embed it locally on your machine and it's running on your machine locally so you never thought about that what if ai was running you know like the co-pilot when i was surfing the web what could you do like what would you want to do if it was telling you this was plagiarized that'd be kind of interesting or if it's telling you like another person who disagrees with this point or other people talking about this topic or yeah if it thinks there's a fact wrong so that'd be really interesting.

22:28Like if I'm surfing a New York Times story and it's like, I think this is wrong or I think this is biased language. Kind of cool, right? All right, everybody. We all know technology is moving at a blistering pace. We talk about it here every week, especially AI. And Codecademy's goal is to help you stay ahead. And so if you've got some experience or you're brand new to coding, Codecademy is going to offer you everything you need to build your tech career. You want to build that tech stack, you want to build your skill stack, and you specifically want to gain skills in AI, full stack engineering, data science, cybersecurity, Twist listeners can try Codecademy Pro free for 14 days.

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24:11Did you see that, Nick? Are you tracking it more than I am, right? I saw that there's a big last minute Apple announcement that's coming on. October 30th and they're doing it at night and nobody knows what's going on. 5 p.m. Why are they doing it at 5 p.m.? 5 p.m. Pacific too. Primetime Eastern. 8 p.m. I wonder if it's something to do with like a live sports network or something. You know how they've been talking about maybe doing some deals with sports networks. So I wonder if it's something entertainment related. Is there anything going on that night in sports? I'll check right now. That they would be a lead into because if there's like, I don't know if it was TNT NBA, maybe they're making an announcement about the NBA.

24:46That started yesterday though. That started yesterday for us. The first game of the season was yesterday. Yeah, the Knicks were playing today. So tonight, yeah. Can't wait. Shout out to my Knicks. Yeah, Apple already has an MLS deal and an MLB deal for baseball and American soccer. But the NBA season is starting. So is this happening this week or next week? This is next week. It's next Monday. Next Monday. It's this upcoming Monday. Next Monday. Hmm. Monday Night Football? Could be. Could be Monday Night Football related. I wonder if they're going to announce some sort of NFL deal or something.

25:14well you know that i think their glasses are coming out in the new year right you're going to be able to buy their glasses in the first quarter is that right the goggles yeah the vision program the vision goggles yeah yeah that'll be first quarter for three grand by the way i got the um iphone 15 yeah me too um yep i'm kind of liking it the usbc the usbc i never like this is the level of like pathetic but it really is a game changer to carry one cable and not be like going around looking for two cables that that's where we're at with technology today but boy does the new operating system and the new processor uh feel snappy i don't know if i you know or maybe my old phone didn't feel as snappy and the battery life feels a little better i like this new there's a little thing up top um where the camera is the front facing camera did you notice it puts like logos in there like if you're watching cnbc put the dynamic island yeah what did you upgrade from so you've been missing because i had the 14 so the dynamic island what do they call that thing the dynamic island well you know what i'm trying with uber so the apps that do it the best are uber uber eats so shout out you know to your thing shout out uber and uber exactly exactly united united airlines when you're on united it will tell you the gate up there and then a countdown to your it is the most amazing thing of all time it's my favorite thing ever it's amazing literally thought that is they give you a countdown clock to when your flight starts your little gate gate f2 and then countdown to your boarding they're just literally like what are you opening up and looking at all the time yeah the gate anxiety they just they got you on the gate anxiety we got you yeah yeah got you um and then when you're flying it has a reverse countdown you can kind of see like uh how long to your destination like so it's like counts down i don't know if you saw this trending on twitter but the woman who worked at um twitter jessica i'm forgetting her last name right now uh she was on that flight i was going into seattle alaska airlines where a co-pilot in the jump seat oh yeah tried to turn the uh engines on all the engines yeah did you see the arrest yeah it was big news uh you know locally here it was huge on the news Yeah, big news on the West Coast.

27:32This crazy guy, this pilot, just decided he would, yeah, Jessica Verrilli. I know her sister because she does the all-in meetups in the Bay Area. And she was on this flight with her two kids. And an off-duty Alaska Airline pilot was booked into jail on 83 attempted murder charges after he allegedly tried to shut off the engines of the San Francisco bound plane. Oh, my God. Pilots apparently tackled them and then they put those wrists. Restraints. Zip-tied them? Zip-tied them, yeah, exactly. yeah yeah i'm trying to let anybody know man i'm i'm a child of 9 11 anybody tries any anything on my plane you're done yeah i'm taking you down it's i'm literally i'm the first guy getting up let's roll the taekwondo a picture of jay no i'm just let's i'm team let's roll anybody tries any shenanigans on my flight with my kids let's roll no way and i'm counting by the way if you get saucy with the flight attendant and you decide that you're gonna like get into it with the flight attendant i'm i'm the first dad getting up yeah you know the dad who gets up yeah on the video on the tiktok video who tells the other person to sit down and shut up yeah that's me i'm like first dad yeah let's go gotta gotta be that way no nonsense on the flight no not on flights not anymore i don't understand what's going on i understand during covid people lost their minds but listen hey everybody it's three years after covid no mas you get on a flight you behave yourself that's it i don't want to hear anybody saucy with the flight attendant i don't want to hear anybody i was at an emirates out here yeah next to me in first class he's pounding scotch like it's iced tea right he's on his third double i never saw this in my life the flight attendant said listen and i certainly never saw this in business class yeah i said listen i i don't want to give you another yeah like shaking his glass kind of situation you know the guy shaking the glass terrible yeah yeah yeah and he's like you need another one the guy's like listen i don't want to give you another one right now you've had three and i hear the number three i'm like am i gonna really have to tell this guy am i have to go into dad mode and tell the guy listen yeah time on a 17 hour flight too that was exactly what i was thinking we were we were in hour two of a 17 hour flight and i get a diaper look there it goes again i held up my peace sign and i got a bunch of balloons in the ai yeah maybe that's the sign for balloons try it now it's not i've seen it come up a couple times yeah who knows all right let's keep going just one thing on the apple thing this was the um the announcement i was talking about so looks like m3 um max and m3 pro are gonna have 16 and 40 gpu cores what can you do with that should i put tires on my macbook pro and have it drive itself around town i mean i think you can start running a third amount of processing maybe maybe if we want to do a little speculation a little speculation could be a little local apple so far behind that maybe they think you know the problem with apple and you see this with goggles is in the race of like don't worry be crappy and get the product out there apple doesn't play don't worry be crappy that's not their game they want to do take your time tight is right yeah not don't worry be crappy they can't play in this ai game and series sucks yeah but i will say my chat gpt virtual assistant i've been playing with that where i talk to it yeah quite compelling the demo that we did when when you put it in audio mode kind of working now and they have a bunch of different voices and it's a little bit faster yeah i'm kind of liking it i hate to say it um but i was just in the car and i was this is the after we did our thing and i was i was like tell me the history of saudi arabia tell me the modern history of this tell me that and i was asking a follow-up question your airpods in or you don't use airpods you use that i was driving in the car yeah and so i just had it up there like gonna be her and i'm just you know i was gonna pick up my daughter and i had time and i was like i could listen to a podcast or i could talk to chap you first i started wrapping chutz and getting a little history lesson going all right okay pretty cool yeah awesome for history like for your drunk history uncle shout out david sacks history uncle history dad can get a lot out of this all right let's keep rolling here so jake you sent this next one over oh yes yeah and so this is called school because summarize.tech very simple and clean UI.

31:44So I think they're just going for functionality right now, which is great. And to be honest, everyone's been talking about this Jared Kushner, Lex Friedman podcast, but it's like three hours long. And so I popped that in here and this does a couple of interesting things, which I want to give them some credit on. If someone else has already done it, you can kind of go here and see recently summarized videos. And so, which is really good because you don't have to wait for it to do the work, which is smart, right? Cause you know, it makes, makes no sense to kind of keep doing that as well. And so I thought that was really well done.

32:17And then from the summaries in this case, you know, this was a three hour, 45 minute podcast and it summarized each hour, but then you can do like a little see more. And then if you want to kind of get into each section, uh, you can kind of scan through it as well. So I thought that was really well done. You know, I thought it was simple, like simple UX again, like this should probably be a part of youtube that's the problem like it doesn't shouldn't be like a yeah you know like an external feature it's a it's a feature of youtube rather than an external service but i really like the simplicity of it i like how they've taken advantage of caching and you know taking advantage of sort of other people that are doing it you get this one basically happened instantaneously for me so someone else must have done it uh pretty neat i like it so i give this one like a b um i'm gonna give this yeah i think i'm the same as you on this one like again the only risk for them is this this naturally for the folks at google should be a youtube feature i mean it could be doing other interesting things here like if it summarized this video you know it could assume here like this or some like some recommendations it could be like here's a summary of this section but then here are the next questions to ask tell me about the history of hamas tell me about the history of the israeli-palestinian conflict So remember we were in that other Google sheet and it was giving you suggestions in the wizard, like anticipating your next question.

33:40Each of these could have some questions, you know, you could prompt it. I'm a podcast listener looking to understand these conversations deeper. Tell me what question to ask next for each hour of the pod. And it just comes up with 10 more questions to ask. So that could be kind of interesting. Scaling a business is hard. It's really hard. Let's be honest. And when you're growing things that used to take a few hours, well, now all of a sudden they take a week, they take two weeks, maybe they never get done. So you wind up getting bogged down. That's not what you need. You need to be efficient. You need to be light.

34:12You need to stick and move. And one way to stay efficient is to understand your KPIs. What does KPI stand for? No need to be embarrassed. Key performance indicator. So basically, these are the important metrics to track for performance against your objectives. Right now, you can download NetSuite's popular KPI checklist for free at netsuite.com slash twist so you can catch up on a KPI checklist. If you're in SaaS, you've probably heard some of these numbers and some of these acronyms, MAO, MRR, ARPU, Average Revenue Per User. And NetSuite's KPI checklist will teach you to identify and understand your strategic objectives and then how to collect and analyze the data and so much more.

34:51Identifying KPIs are going to make you more efficient. Your team's going to be happier. You're going to be happier as the boss. And right now, increasing margins and getting profitable is the name of the game. KPIs is the road to that. So here's your call to action. NetSuite is everything you need all in one place. Download NetSuite's KPI checklist for free at netsuite.com slash twist. That's netsuite.com slash twist to get your KPI checklist right now. Okay, next one. So we're going to pop back. We're going to do a couple with our friends at Google again, because they keep innovating. They keep innovating.

35:24and so okay it's good to see it like it's you know era of innovation okay sundar all right stocks down a bit you know but they got to keep pushing yes okay so here what you see now is in your google workspaces if you have ai for workspaces enabled when you start a new google doc in this case like a you know blank one here untitled classic untitled doc classic untitled you help me write and so oh look at that prompt right in the white space right right in the doc can say, okay, help me write a performance review for Nick. I want to highlight his strengths

36:11as being on time, doing good research. Give me one more, J. Cal. And his jovial disposition. Okay. Okay. Okay. Areas he needs to work on are his hairstyle. That is doing his personal hygiene. Personal. And inappropriate banter. Sign. You're getting a little inappropriate. I sound like Chris Farley. yeah absolutely all right so i'm going to do this and so um and i showed you know the greg one before while it generates that so i i have this one here that i did for greg sure uh fictitious greg oh wait we're still learning i can't help with that try another request wow really what that's crazy you just did it this is always weird doing it i hate when you tell you not to do it and then you tell it it's okay you can do it and it does it yeah just just do it right okay here we go and it did it second tries yeah yeah and so you can kind of go here and i really like this you can say elaborate tones you can change the tones you can say make the tone more formal and then you can have it elaborate and you know jacob i'm bringing this up because like look like last week we did the images inside of it says here nick is a valuable member of the team he is punctual and completes his assignments on time he's also a good researcher but then however nick needs to prove on his personal hygiene he has a habit of coming to work with unkept hair and body odor he also needs to be careful about his jokes he sometimes makes inappropriate jokes that makes his colleagues uncomfortable nick please yeah and i love that you elaborate we should elaborate on the body odor yeah elaborate on the body odor and like but you know jay cal like look you know you you've been building companies and managing people for a long time and performance review is important And then sometimes it's hard like to, you know, build out.

38:13Yeah. I get started. And so you do this problem is real. And like, there you are, you're done. I mean, the crazy thing about this is if you actually know your points to put them in full sentences, this does a wonderful job. So for people who have writer's block, this is going to do it. I was writing a deal memo and we have a section in our deal memos for the syndicate where it says the bet. And, you know, people have a hard time writing the bet. so i've been having my associates managing directors you know etc i give a shot at writing the bat and then i basically approve it or write it and every time it's not as good as i want it to be yeah the last time i said you know i just highlighted what you wrote and i in um notion ai yeah and i said you know make it better they just have a button that says make it better make it better yeah i was like it's so much better the notion one yeah so like your original ideas are just presented much better yeah can you do me the honor or the yeah save us all now like you know you're using notion but like you know if google docs is your platform like think about how you know what this is going to do i think it's really well executed that's four hours of work that you know somebody puts on their to-do list that's going to take them two four hours and if they got to do 10 of those and it's 20 hours of work it's three days of work like maybe like you know the boss like hey what are you doing this week it's like oh this is performance review week week yeah like week no seriously and yeah that would be like performance review day yeah and uh you know what now highlight that review here's what i want you to do i want you take that review and i want you to say your nick write a rebuttal to this review that asks for a 20 raise okay but that they don't they don't allow that to happen you do that but you could copy this into oh yeah i could copy it put it into chat gpt4 and say this is my performance review write me a rebuttal that doesn't make me look defensive and ask for a 20 raise that's a good one and so what should happen in the future your ai should know automatically to do this and try to get you to do it right it should know when you get a performance review you should write a review that's not defensive.

40:26Let's see what happens here. Dear manager's name, J.Cow. I want to express my gratitude for the feedback for providing a membership performance for you. I genuinely value the opportunity. I understand. Oh my God, this is such a whole load of horseshit. Firstly, I'm proud to acknowledge the positive feedback, particularly my research skills. Regarding feedback about my personal hygiene, I sincerely apologize for the discomfort I may have caused to my colleagues. Nicely done, Nick. i recognize the importance of maintaining a professional appearance and the impact it has on the work environment please understand that personal circumstances have temporarily affected my routine but i'm committed to addressing this immediately ensure it doesn't continue wow what a great excuse well done nick as for the character assassination it's just a joke nick does not nick's hygiene is yes it's on second to none not second to none i mean it's incredible the guy smells like roses um as for the jokes i understand that humor can be subjective and sometimes despite my best intentions a joke might not land as intended this sounds like me actually i appreciate the insight i was gonna say i'm usually the get back guy for jason exactly yeah this is me talking to my wife i appreciate the insights on this and will be more vigilant about ensuring my humor aligns workplace appropriateness not bad nick you did a good job and then he comes for the raise considering my commitment to the company the constant positive feedback in several areas and the value i bring to the team i kindly request a salary adjustment of 20 percent well that's a big number i believe this reflects both the current market value of my role i mean my lord this would have taken somebody like two weeks of like hand wringing and edits and stress and you know like asking a friend done like you go to your friends be like oh i got a reply to my manager what should i say so now i want you to copy that and then i want you to write that i want you to put that into claude ai and then tell claude ai that market conditions don't allow us to give a 20 raise but we're happy to do a four percent uh adjustment uh for the cost of living don't do it yeah it's just you can see where this is going everybody so i i'm going to just say that google air rights for that ai rights for google as presented that's an a for me Yeah.

42:41Okay. Another A. Okay. Yeah. I think it's an A. Like, you know, in fact, I found it because I was trying to work on something. And then basically I've been using it like every single day now. I just want to say as a writer. Yeah. um i would say this is a bummer for me because like i used to be able to do all this stuff but i'll be totally honest i hate doing this stuff and if this like people who work for me can just do this because what happens is ultimately myself or producer jackie who used to work on the show and is now a managing director all this writing stuff winds up coming to our desk somebody's like i need help writing this and it's like oh producer jackie's the writer at the company jay cow's the writer at the company go to them they'll write the copy and i just rather everybody be able to write good copy from the get and then i can just do my pixie dust you know a little bit of flare on it yeah you know and then eventually it'll probably understand how i do flare and i'll just do a little kind of just like you know we did the originality maybe instead of being 100 ai you add it and it becomes like 90 ai but the 10 flare is human and that's okay perfect i like it great job i'm giving an a so send this to sundar you got an a you finally got your a not a plus but okay last one Okay, I'll say I had a Google Sheets one, but I'll save it because I have two more to go.

43:54Actually, let's do Google Sheets and we'll save the Bard for next week. So very similar theme here inside of Google Sheets. You know, when you start a new sheet, you get this little, you know, tab that comes in from the right hand side. This helped me organize. And so it gives you ideas like, you know, wedding event planner, wedding event planner, a zoo with different animal kitchen remodel task list, you know. Wow. And so you guys run conferences, J-Cow. So what I was going to say is let's, let's pop in one. Like if you were wanting to create some kind of checklist for a conference, what would you, let's make a, let's make a run of show for a corporate conference.

44:29That's three days long with 16 speakers a day. We'll see if it understands run of show. Okay. That's it. That's it. Let's see what it does. I don't know if it's like the same kind of issue or let me grab this. I don't know if it's like a refresh issue because it's like, It's a weird error that it gives there. Yeah. It's a weird error. Okay. So let's give it a shot here. Let's do it again. And. Oh my God. That's terrible. Uh-oh. That's not good. Okay. So. Okay. Sundar. This is the don't worry, be crappy mode that we're in with AI. You've got to build stuff and you got to throw it out in the world.

45:07And it's saying we're unable to generate any results based on your prompt. Please try again. Let's do another prompt. Please create a budget for a three-day corporate conference for 150 executives. Include food, lodging, and entertainment. You know, this is something somebody might do, right? Somebody on my team might do something like this. Somebody on your team might do an off-site meeting like this. Let's see if it makes an actual budget for a three-day corporate conference for 150 executives, including food, lodging, and entertainment. All right. um lodging 200 percent uh okay okay let's hit insert and see what happens what happens next yeah it just kind of dropped it in here kind of weak sauce let's try again it didn't do a good job on that it just put like 200 a person for dinner and it didn't even put themselves uh so what will we do here that could be very interesting please create a pnl for a startup in the software industry that's a pretty good one right that's like a template they must have somewhere i must understand yeah you would think so yeah see if it does it here this could be a chance to okay no no i did a quarterly report yeah okay so sorry uh sundar you got an a for docs the x the google sheets team has failed horribly and they're getting an f there's an f you failed well i will say i picked i picked one of their examples which was like a new product launch sure yeah and then this one sorry yeah i'm sorry nailed the example yeah okay great i give it an f what do you give this pathetic performance i'm in that range you know like these things are hard to do yeah all right applause from all right everybody this has been another episode of this week in stardust for sunday mantra i am jay cow the world's greatest monitoring we'll see you next time bye bye