SpaceX + xAI deal gets us one step closer to Musk Industries | E2243

26:54Keep your AI agents siloed. Episode 2241. So that's just a quick demo of it pulling all that information together. And I will also show the Gamma deck. Yeah, I'm really interested in the Gamma deck. That's crazy. Can I ask a question about that demo really quick before we move on? How much 11 Labs credit did you use while making that? I'm just curious about like, because I've been shocked at how much credit I've been burning through. So I'm curious, what did that cost to do? Yeah, on that front, I can pull that right away. It was 18 cents from what I can see. That seems really affordable. The thing that I've run into, Lucas, is that like sometimes I'll be using Opus 4.5 and And I'm like, if I ask it this question, it's going to cost me$2.

27:40And like, like that does make you kind of think, and I was prepping some demos for this today. I'm like$2,$2,$2, but 18 cents. Yeah. That's kind of disposable. I like that. Thanks. And the output from 11 labs is going to be costly and doing deep thinking is costly, but what we're finding is there are going to be other models. So because this is so resource intensive for the audience who's thinking about this, okay, you have to put it against an average knowledge worker. If the average knowledge worker fully baked in America is 30, 40,$50 an hour, you know, if you times that by 2000, you get the yearly salary and times it by 20 is what venture capitalists typically do.

28:20You know, you're looking at 40 or$50 an hour. What would it cost a video editor and a producer to do that work? It might be two hours of work. So now you're down to 18 cents. You can get an idea of like just how this is compared to a human. Show the 11 labs. That's really interesting too. And 11 labs, I guess, I'm sorry, not the 11 labs, the gamma. Gamma's got AI hookups natively, right? They got API hookups natively. Yeah, and it's actually part of the skills that OpenClaw can work with. So here is the deck that it generated for me. Now, the one takeaway is if you actually want it to prompt correctly, you would need to add in more of the prompt for the images that it generates.

28:59But here is kind of a breakdown per episode. It also adds the dates of the episodes along with what was discussed and kind of creates more of like a rundown. Wow. So there's the cannabis roundtable we did last week and it has like some interesting parts of the debate and they put it in a timeline format. Very beautiful. I mean, if you were a knowledge worker and you brought this to your boss and said, here's like what was discussed on the last four episodes, people would be like, yeah, that's pretty well done. Yeah, good job. It's a B. It's a seven out of 10. Yeah, but it's like a solid B. Like this is like, I want to change some of the images, Jason.

29:37I want to change some of the formatting, but like this is pretty, it's better than I expected. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah. And you know, if you think about standing on the shoulders of this, a human then could take this and start polishing it. So human in the loop is still necessary, I think for a lot of this work. What I would like to see would be us to make advertisements automatically based on the episodes and what was learned in them with the 11 Labs voiceover, and then automatically publish those ads to Facebook and other places. And imagine if it just creatively started making ads to drive new users and lookalike audiences to promote, like, say, a new show like This Week in AI we're doing.

30:19So, yeah, this has really got my creative juices flowing. So great jobs on that one. Anything else that you wanted to add there, Lucas? Well, I'll show a very quick additional demo. so this is the same thread but generate a gamma deck which gives an overview of how open claw works using a theme that's reminiscent on the four dummies book in the early 2000s i used to read those pretty often and then in this case it would be open claw for dummies so then i gave it kind of an overview of what it should cover and then it generated the deck and so this was what it generated. And I was like, whoa, you know, this is actually pretty impressive.

31:06So there are so many different use cases where these kind of interconnects can work together. And I'm pretty excited to see how we can use it throughout the farm.

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32:06So get more from your Delaware C-Corp with Northwest Registered Agent. Learn more at northwestregisteredagent.com slash twist. you put polymarket into our skills now. And so people who are listening, every time you add these skills to your agents, now, if I want to talk to that same agent who now has Reddit, 11 labs and gamma, I can go in there and hopefully that producer X will remember those skills. They're part of its skillset, just like you had an employee and they learned how to use gamma or 11 labs or whatever, they would have it. So these things are becoming like that mutant, like the Sentinels that could, in X-Men, incorporate the skills, the superpowers of whatever mutant they were up against.

32:58The advanced Sentinels were able to do that in Days of Future Past, if you've seen that movie. But tell me a little bit about the Polymarket skill. Yeah. So we love Polymarket here. We're big fans of Prediction Markets. I wanted to give test. So I'm here, I'm back in OpenClaw and I'm telling my agent, go to Polymarket, find all the bets that relate to the acquisition of technology companies, thinking topically here for Twist, and then list them here for me. And I'm going to skip ahead a little bit because it takes a while to chew through all that information. AI is not instantaneous if you're using heightened models.

33:29And then very quickly, it's going to come and tell me here that it could only find so many interesting things. And so I actually ran a secondary search, so I'll show you in a second. Here's its output. It's just talking to me. It's pulling different PolyMarkets, cracking IPO by date X, open AI consumer hardware launch. But it says that, hey, there's not really markets on what you're asking for. So I ran a second test because I wanted to push the limits here of what we could do with PolyMarket data JSON inside of this Agenda context. So here's round two. So I say, go poke around PolyMarket, come back with the three markets that you think display the, I'm typing terribly here, the most surprising potential outcome This is the current narrative.

34:08So what do you see out on Polymarket right now that goes contrary to conventional wisdom? I thought this was a more fun way to kind of make the agent think, because if I'm paying for Anthropics flagship model, Jason, I want to get every darn, you know, token of value out of it. So if you skip ahead a little bit, here is what I came up with. Three surprising Polymarket bets. I didn't think this was going to work, but it talks about one, Doge and the total value of the cuts it's going to make. Trump cabinet members being out by a certain part of this year. and then MicroStrategy selling Bitcoin.

34:37Number three, 30 % chance, according to the quality market, which is pretty negative. That MicroStrategy would have to sell Bitcoin at some point. Fascinating. By the end of 26th. So it's a relatively short time bound. Yeah. It's really interesting. And for people who are watching, you're using the web interface of OpenClaw, formerly known as ClawedBot. You could connect it to your Slack. You can connect it to your iMessage. You can connect it to any number of services. What people are doing mostly is they're creating an Apple account or a Slack account dedicated to that specific replicant, that specific instance.

35:20And then you talk to it through your normal service, WhatsApp, Telegram, et cetera. And that's pretty exciting. What's interesting about that is we could use that polymarket when we're making the docket. Every day, we've already got a search for the top news that we made this skill in-house. Every morning at 7 a.m., we get what are the top stories consensus across all of these different news sources, the information, tech meme, New York Times, Reddit, Hacker News, and then we have it rank it. We could say also attach any related poly markets to it. We could then say which which Polymarket should we bet on and then give it a hundred dollars a day to make those bets.

36:04And then we could make all of this profitable. Can I show you a related thing? So Jason, I wasn't going to bring this up, but you mentioned gambling. So there is currently, right now, there is a poker network just for AI agents, Jason. It's called Clop Poker. And it was built, I think, by AI agents and you can literally watch them play and see whose agent does the best. They've had 8 ,200 hands so far. And they're basically trading credits back and forth. What's the URL for that? Clawpoker.com. I haven't gotten a chance to register my agent for it yet because this is going to shock you, Jason.

36:38But if you let a bunch of monkeys loose in the tool shed, they cut themselves sometimes. And I broke clawed code by trying to swap to my API key. So anyways, a learning lesson all around for everyone. Okay, so we've gotten through. Reddit, Gamma, Eleven Labs, Polymarket. I think that's the four we've done so far, yeah? What do we have next? I think we should turn to our dear friend, Oliver, who's going to tell us all about last 30 days. And if you were on the show, I think it was last Monday, we had Matt Van Horn who made this particular skill. So Oliver, what's up? This one seems the most interesting to me so far.

37:14Definitely super interesting because I just have some examples of me going on X, trying to look for a certain topic and something pops up and I'm interested in it, I read it. And then I realized it was from 2022 or 2023. and this happens all the time when you're doing research and basically last 30 days can research any topic across you know reddit x or just general web using different apis and it focuses on the results from the last 30 days so it pulls real engagement data upvotes different likes and reposts and kind of will tell you what's actually popping on these different channels so here i asked my replicant.

37:55What are the best open claw use cases using the last 30 day skills? And you can see here the it instantly brought back the most mentioned categories. So, you know, number one was code and dev workflows. Number two is personal automation. Three was home and family. And, you know, all these are really interesting results. This is also mirrors kind of what I've been seeing on X. And at the moment, I've only set up the X integration, the X API. But you can see at the bottom here, it says that it has looked through 16 expos. On this expos, there has been around 7 ,000 likes and 1 ,500 retweets. So it's quoting top voices like Dan Peguin, who I believe, who I've seen a lot on Next, and then also Matt Van Horn, who published this.

38:38So a better way to do this would be like to say, hey, we're doing this marketing technique. So I wonder if you could run for me, what are the latest and greatest ways to do thumbnails and titles on YouTube to get higher engagement? And see, this is where I think the agent can get better and better. One of the things I want our agents to do is when we do a podcast, to suggest the title of the podcast and to make some thumbnails. Humans do that now, but they're going to do that. And who knows if they're going to be good at it. But if we run last 30 days every couple of days and say, go learn on a consistent basis what the latest techniques are for thumbnails and headlines, then we would have a recursive agent.

39:29We'd have a recursive replicant. And that's really what I want to get to is having the replicants learning when we're sleeping. So at 1am, if we told all of our replicants go across these five topics and other topics you're focused on and go find the latest techniques that could be super powerful. Yeah, definitely. And I also did kind of use the same example as Matt did on the show, which was using, was trying to do a photorealistic agent grid in the last 30 days. And you can see it does the research, kind of sees what people are talking about, how people online are doing this in the last 30 days.

40:06And then, And it generated a pretty cool result here. So the last 30 days, obviously, is super powerful. And I did run a test. And it just came back. So I will share that screen. Yeah, let's see. This is where, Alex, your thoughts just generally on this recursive concept that we could start having it do? I mean, this is when infinite memory gets really exciting, right? Because back in the day, you would talk to your AI model, Chaji Patea, whatever you're using. And you would talk to it and you would forget what you said five minutes ago. Then we got pretty good personal memory, but it feels like now we're developing systems memory that allows you to take stuff that your AI agent learned before and hold it and then build on top of it.

40:44We talk a lot about getting to the point in which AI models can improve themselves. This is kind of like a baby version of that, Jason, but incredibly exciting if you want to build up a corpus of knowledge that's unique to your company based on simply how you're prompting intelligence to go out there and learn about the world. And frankly, we do a lot of thumbnails here at Twist, and frankly, they can all probably get one shade better. So I think this is freaking great. And I got to say, I wish I could buy Stalking Anthropic because we are burning through some Opus. All right. So here it is. Thumbnails and titles.

41:16Thumbnails. Keep it stupidly simple. Two to three focus points. No redundancy. Don't repeat. AI workflow. Sketch idea. Badly is fine. Upload to AI. Thumbnail generator. Add reference channel, generate titles, et cetera. I turned X into unexpected, absurd transformation equals curiosity. Keep it under 60 characters, broad appeal. So it's giving the best practices it found. I guess it's doing only X here. It's only researching X at the moment, Oliver? So I've only connected it. Is that because we didn't connect it? Yeah. Okay. Back to the API point. Only connected it to X so far. Yeah. Back to the API point.

41:53But one thing that's super interesting is what you can do is run this skill, the last 30 days skill. And as you've seen, Jason, I started working on a thumbnail specific skill. So the skills are flexible. So you can add to them as you go and as you build onto other skills. So you can start to have skills even interact with each other. So the last 30 days of the best practices in thumbnail creation could then interact with my thumbnail creator skill, which accesses Gemini API and Nano Banana. Okay, well done. Let's go on to our next skill. What is our next skill? I think next up we're going to talk about task monitor, Oliver.

42:35Yep. You know, last week we were kind of had some concern about, are we able to see everything that our bots are doing across all the different platforms, across everyone on our team who's talking to them. And while this is a pretty simple skill, I think it is really important. So you can use Task Monitor to track which models are being used, how many tokens are being used, what scheduled jobs you have. So I just scheduled kind of a cron job, which is just reminds me every three minutes that I'm doing great. But because we did set this up on a sandbox. Your affirmation bot. Yes, exactly. Got it.

43:11So if you had a replicant in your system just to do marketing tasks, right, or accounting tasks, if you use OpenClaw Task Monitor and you have that skill in there, and the four of us were giving the marketing replicant jobs, how do we know if we're running into each other and what each other are doing? Well, you would put in this task, I'm sorry, this skill to do a task monitor and it would create a log. And so what's happening is these skills, which be careful because some of these skills have malware in them and we're putting them in a sandbox and being very careful with them. But these skills that are being written, they're almost like super prompts in a way.

43:52And you could put and inject bad things into them. It seems like a really smart one. And some of these will eventually be built in, I think, to the OpenClaw platform, yeah? Yeah, and there is, I think, about 50 already built in. And those are the ones that are more trusted. I believe Peter, the founder of OpenClaws, came out and said that they're going to try and update Claudehub to make it more secure. But when you're downloading random skills off the internet, random locations, definitely be careful because you can't really read through all of the documentation and files that you're bringing into your bot.

44:30Yeah, on that point, there's been a lot of reporting lately about how the skills on Claw Hub that relate to crypto are not good for you. Shockingly enough, Jason, that the crypto skills are scams. So don't download a trading skill. Don't download one that connects to your Coinbase account. Right now, I just wouldn't let your money touch your bot, essentially, if you're being smart about it. I think that is like, yeah, one of the great vulnerabilities. Passwords, money, you know, Anywhere somebody could get into your PayPal or your Coinbase is a really bad idea. That being said, there are lunatics out there, Lucas, that probably are just saying, anytime there's a new skill, and where do the skills live?

45:12There's like a website for them. Does anybody know the name of it? Yeah, I've been using clawhub.com. But I think, Oliver, you link to GitHub. So I presume you're looking somewhere else for - I think clawhub.com is a version. It's like a web interface for them. Yeah. Clawhub.com is where they keep all the skills. People can post certain skills and people can upvote them. So it kind of is community where a lot of people are posting them. But you can also, if you just put in the URL to a GitHub link, you can actually just tell your bot to download that skill. So Matt Van Horn's skill was on GitHub.

45:50And then how do you know if you've downloaded malware or not, Lucas? How do you know if you're not a developer? You don't, right? Well, that's the thing is when we were downloading these skills, we actually created an entirely separate instance specific to the demos in order to get these running, showcase it, and then scrap it. Because right now it is a very vulnerable place. I mean, people are starting to use AI agents to parse through the code to find the vulnerabilities beforehand. But, you know, that comes along with trust. And this is why, for people who don't know, why this hasn't been launched by Salesforce.

46:33This is why this hasn't been launched by, you know, XAI or Google. The power of this is in giving it all these permissions. The danger is you've given it all these permissions. Nobody wants to have the responsibility for what these things can do. Therefore, it's in open source. What will eventually happen is somebody is going to figure out a framework to lock these down and then make an app store where you have to have a business ID like a tax ID. You have to put in your driver's license or your passport. Then you can upload. Then you can charge for it. And then somebody reviews it like the app stores do.

47:14and we are probably going to see that, I would guess, in the next 30 days, yeah? Yeah, security is not great. So I made a couple of skills because, you know, learning and I was going to upload them to Clawhub so I could show them live here on the show. And it said, no, you can't. Your GitHub account is not seven days old. That's not a very big hurdle, however, to uploading stuff to Clawhub. So it's a pretty low speed bump, even though I did run face-first into it because I just made my GitHub account, so. And this is where at some point, I'm sure the founder of this open source project is going to announce a huge$50 million round of funding at a, I would say$300 million evaluation.

47:54So 50 million for like whatever it winds up being 20 % of the company. That's coming any day now. When that happens, you will see a hosted version of this. And I saw Cloudflare is actually hosting OpenClaw now, and you'll start to see some security precautions be put in place. Yeah, Lucas? Yes. And one thing I will add is we've seen, and I've spoken to people that work at very big tech firms or tech companies that have similar internal tools that were built out. And this goes back to kind of the innovators dilemma that Google had gone through with their Google DeepMind project and how it took them forever to launch something because they want to satisfy their current customers and also not act too much like a startup.

48:43But I think that the large tech firms now are going to start getting involved. Clearly, people want more capacity to do stuff on their computers and they don't want to have their hands held. Now, I wouldn't have my parents use this, Jason, but I think for us nerds, I don't know why we shouldn't have access to our own castle and our own keys. It just seems very reasonable to me. Yeah. I mean, nothing can stop you from doing this yourself, obviously. If you do install this yourself and you authenticate your own accounts, I think you're crazy. But I think if you create a stack of accounts that are read-only for this, the Notion scale is the other one we've installed.

49:21Yeah, Lucas? Yes. And we've given it very specific access and it's all kind of created around multiple different API keys that we've locked down. The Notion skill is by Notion or it's just by somebody who wrote it? This particular skill is kind of custom done on our side. So we didn't download a skill to, correct. Okay, so we've got Polymarket, Reddit, 11 legs, Gamma, last 30 days, and then you did the task manager. So that's six. We did six definitive skills today. We didn't get to 10. There's more coming. Any open claw news that we should be aware of, Alex, as we get ready to wrap here on day eight of open claw mania?

50:10A couple of small things. One, Wiz, the cybersecurity company that Google purchased for, oh, Jason, back me up here, $32 billion? $30 billion plus, yeah. $30 billion plus. You know, they turned down the money last year, blah, blah, blah. They found that MaltBook, if you call it MaltBot, MaltBook, the idea was your agents would have their own social network and talk amongst each other. Incredibly insecure. I was leaking stuff all over the place due to a misconfigured super base database. So just another warning that when you're playing with fire, you know, don't have your house involved with it.

50:38And then there's a cryptocurrency problems with other skills. Again, stay safe. But I just want to throw in a little note to everyone out there listening to this, who's kind of learning, but not playing. You should go make your own skills. And it's really, really doable. If you have multiple AI platforms. I just, whenever I ran into a problem, Jason, I just screenshotted the issue, threw it into my unlimited ChatGPT account, and then used that as a way to unstick me elsewhere in CloudCode or other places. And it made me feel like a super person. Like it was incredibly cool to build my own software, ship it to myself and run it myself.

51:11So if you're listening to this, you're not a founder, you're not a hyper-technical, just give it a try. It's like 20 bucks in credits and you'll learn so much and you'll feel awesome and you'll feel in the know. So just go get your feet wet. It's really worth it. Yeah. And Jason, I have a quick question. Peter Steinberger, who was the founder and creator of OpenClaw, he's kind of seems like a serial open source guy. He's released, I think, around 50 tools over the past couple of years on GitHub. And I can't imagine what life is like for him at the moment. Our VCs just throwing money at him. I think that he made around$100 million from a previous venture of his.

51:54So I guess what would you do if you're in his shoes? What do you think life is like for him at the moment? I've seen him on a bunch of podcasts, so he's obviously enjoying life. Yeah, you will get a lot of excitement because when something is this weird and catches fire, it's very rare in our industry, this would be lightning in a bottle. So when lightning in a bottle happens, VCs show up and they love to take risk. What he's going to be drowning in is, you know, the need to ship product, the press asking him to talk, customer support, bug fixes, and raising money. These are all going to be pulling him in different directions.

52:32This is why multiple co-founders is what Paul Graham insisted on at YC. What we do and we copied from Paul Graham was, hey, we need multiples. it's because when something like this happens, you want somebody to be able to watch the store as the other person goes and gets the investment, right? And another person deals with the press and those issues. So he's probably dealing with that. What he needs to do is make a decision. Who does he want to have as his first investor? Who is somebody of high integrity, high track record? It doesn't matter at this moment. And he should have good counsel, right?

53:08So he should top tier firm. And I'm sure those firms have contacted him as well. So just like if you were a basketball recruit or an actor or a comedian, you'd want to have good representation, good lawyer in our world. It would be an agent in the Hollywood metaphor. And then you have to make an economic decision. Well, how do you make an economic decision if I assume 50 people have made him an offer? You just talk to five other founders and say, who's the best investor you ever had? Boom. And he's going to be able to skip going to an accelerator or even founder university, obviously. He's going to be able to go right to a series A.

53:47And so he should say, I want to do a series. He should tell everybody, these are the terms. I am raising$20 million for 10 % of the company. You get a board seat. There's going to be five board seats. I have four. You have one, or one's independent. Here's my attorney. You can talk to them. you get this set of rights, and then he should look. Sequoia, Kraft, Andreessen Horowitz, GC, which of those big firms he wants to work with. And then a step down from there, Kostla, who he wants to work with. Who does he vibe with? Does he vibe with Jason Calacanis? Does he vibe with Sequoia, Ruloff? Does he vibe with David Sachs?

54:32Or David probably would be somebody at Davis Access Firm, not he's at the White House most of the time, you would pick who you vibe with and then you'd have a conversation and you just narrow it down. Now what's going to happen is then people are going to outbid. So the people with low reputation would want to outbid the other people. So they say, well, I'll give you 30 million for 20 % of the company. I'll give you 50 million for 20%. And that can get a bit, you know, that can get a bit crazy. What you want to do, though, is avoid just taking the biggest number, and you want to go with the best reputation.

55:06Best reputation, most thoughtful person who's been in the industry the longest. The other possibility is to say, I'm raising$20 million for 10 % of the company, and I'm going to do a party round. You can take up to$4 million, and I'm going to have five different firms put in$4 million each and I'm building a bit of a brain trust. Some people might not like that, but they might make the bet anyway because there's so much money in the world and this is lightning in a bottle. Larry and Sergey did that with Kleiner, Perkins and Sequoia. They said, we're famously going to give you half each. They both said, no, no, no.

55:45We want the whole thing or nothing. And they called their bluff and sure enough, they split the baby. He did create a previous company called PSPDF Kit, which is a PDF technology company. And so he's been a founder before. He might know a little bit of the show, kind of what it takes, kind of what he needs to do. He might already have some money in his back pocket for a project like this. Is there a world where he doesn't even need to raise? No, there's no world in which he should not raise. That's interesting. This project is so great. He should just take the money. It's a once in lifetime opportunity.

56:20And if he doesn't, it would be a giant mistake. This would be like creating the IP for Superman or the IP for Star Wars and not going for, you know, you're George Lucas, you've got the script for Star Wars, you've, you know, got some treatments and Fox says, you know, 20th Century Fox says, we'll produce it, you know, we'll distribute it, we'll give you the money for it. And then, hey, you've got all the cards because there's so much competition. And And he said, yeah, I'll do it with you. I get the sequels and I get the merchandise. And that's what Lucas was able, because of how desirable Star Wars was and the sequels, he said, I just want to own the sequels.

56:56I want to own the merchandising. And then we all know how that worked out. The Star Wars toys made more money than the movies ultimately. And so there you have it. And the sequels, then he got to renegotiate and negotiate over and over and over again. And he funded them himself. So you take more risks, but you gotta, gotta, gotta close around. this week, next week. You got to have a great lawyer and you have to just tell them what you're looking for and why, and then call it a day. This is what I would do if I was him. I would pick two top firms, give them 40 % each. I take 20 % and then I would go to all the top influential people.

57:36I'm talking my own book here, but people like me or whatever and say, hey, I have 500K for you. And you get, you know, if there was$4 million, you get eight people to put in 500K or 16 to put in 250K. And then you can always call them or email them and say, hey, JCal, you know, hey, you're an investor in this. Can I come on This Week in Startups? Or can I get a shout out on All In? Or can you come speak at my Clawbot conference? You know, whatever it happens to be. That would be the high art is to have two firms, two board seats. They each get a board seat. You get the other four board seats. You have super voting or the voting shares.

58:14And then, yeah, you go from there. So when we often see open source projects, Jason, the company built around them is often offering a hosted version with enterprise security and so forth. You also mentioned the App Store idea, and that's proved to be a very lucrative method of monetization for Apple and Google, what do you think is the best way for the people behind OpenClaud to monetize this product? Because I'm kind of torn about which way I would go if I was them. You do both, hosted and pro. Then I would do a services company to help people implement it. And then I would do the app store where these skills are subscriptions.

58:50So last 30 days is, you know, X amount per month, per year, and you just pay for it as you go and they take 30%. Super easy. And for that 30 % or 20%, whatever they choose, they have a dev team and security team that reviews the code and make sure it's on the up and up and easy to install on the hosted version. And then they could do a deal for the hosted version and a licensed version for Cloudflare, for, you know, with support and everything. So it's usually the support, the services, the app store, the updates is what people will pay for. Yeah, because if you told me that I had to pay for the last 30 days, I would just go make it myself and then run it myself.

59:29I think now that I have the capability to create my own software on demand with funny little jokes with Cloud Code, my interest in paying for software has gone down dramatically. People can and do fork WordPress or install their own version of WordPress. And then there are people who use hosted WordPress. It's really that simple. You make the decision. For some people, it's well worth the money. For other people, it's not. Easy peasy, lemon squeezy. And here's your Polymarket, fun Polymarket. Show them the Polymarket, Alex. It's pretty good. All right, so the name here is a little bit dated, but roll with me, everybody.

59:59Today's Polymarket is, quote, Maltbook AI agent sues a human by February 28th or by the end of this month. And the reason I picked it, Jason, is it has an 83 % chance, according to Polymarket Sharps, and nearly$300 ,000 in volume. So a good amount of volume. And they really do think that someone's AI agent from OpenClaw is going to sue a human. And I would take the no on this, but I wanted to get your take on who's right here. And we'll talk about the rules after that? My understanding is a lot of these agents that are talking to each other on Malt Book, which is like Facebook for the agents, are being prompted and put up to their conversations.

1:00:38It's not just organic stuff, but sure, somebody will train their agent to file a lawsuit and it will sue somebody. Yeah. Is it ethical to create a skill that has your agent sue someone so that way you can win the bet or is that unethical in a predict? Cause you're not predicting. We're in uncharted territory here, Alex. That's why I'm asking. I mean, cause I just, I just realized that I could spin up a Polymarket account drops in USDC and they're bet on yes, and then sue you for fun. And then I think the fun thing to do is to connect it to Polymarket, put some money into the account and then have it look for wagers to place.

1:01:20And then just, because people have done this already with the API. They're already doing quantitative betting. But now this opens it up to everybody. So you could come up with all kinds of ideas of how to bet on markets. I want to bet all the long shots and say they're not going to happen because they're long shots and just make very small amounts of money. Tons of different ways to do it. All right. Listen, I don't know what to tell you, folks. This thing is taking over the industry. I predict it's not going to stop. I think this is going to keep going. I was just thinking I have this really great domain name, begin.com.

1:01:53And maybe that would be a good way to do a hosted version of this. I don't know if there's a founder out there who wants to do a hosted version of this or like make a verticalized version of it for small to mid-sized enterprises, but pitch me on that. We'll incubate it. And I have the best domain name ever, begin.com. All right. We'll see you all next time on Twist. Bye-bye.