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23:42That to me is the best moment. Yeah, I shouldn't say this. That's how you know it's going to be something good. Up next, from early in the year, we had an online expert in crypto, Coffeezilla, to discuss the meme coin explosion. I thought this was one of my favorite episodes of the whole year, just to get personal. Here he is discussing whether or not crime is going to be legal in the future. I also think there's an opportunity to demarcate out, even if you're saying, by the way, I hate meme coins. I think if you want to do it, that's fine, but I just think it leads to these kinds of bad incentives.

24:14but that is different from fraud, right? So when the president launched the coin, as much as I loathe it, and I think it sets a bad precedent, whatever, they locked up their coins. They said they were gonna do it, they locked it up, right? Whereas what we're talking about with Hayden Davis is fraud is when there's deception involved, right? You said one thing and there's something else going on that the public doesn't know about that is materially harming them. That is like the sniping. That stuff should still be illegal and prosecuted heavily. What I wanna see, if it was my dream, is that, look, even if they wanna be like pro-crypto innovation, right?

24:42Meaning we want some rules of the road, that's fine. still go after the fraud because fraud has never been legal. It never should be legal. But because some of these agencies are being gutted, because I think there's this feeling of like, we want to throw out the guys who are clogging the wheels before. You're going to get a lot less of that, unfortunately, which we need. We still need the fraud guys taking down the fraud. If you want XRP to do its thing and you want Ripple to be able to innovate, okay, whatever, you can make that case. But leave the fraud guys in place to still take down the bad guys.

25:05So there isn't a feeling at large that, oh, there's like kind of like crimes legal for the next four years. Yeah, that is a valid concern. Great coffee, Zilla. Hats off to him. Up next, one of our favorite founders of the moment on one of the fastest growing companies ever, Anton Osika of Lovable came by to talk about how he's predicting a coming wave of single founder startups. Let's take a look at that. Software and SaaS is just going to be absolutely disrupted. The amount of software, great software, much better software is going to explode, but the prices are going to absolutely collapse. I think there is a case for people customizing and building almost their own software but one of the pieces even though the engineering time is kind of almost reduced to zero thanks to ai there's a cost of building good software which is to test it with a human us humans we were kind of the bottleneck for the for software and that's typically what the product manager does and now now i think it's more like an ai builder or that is really good at understanding and testing with users so that's going to remain and we're like at lovable we're very bullish on finding who are the best people building with our tools so tomorrow we're launching something where we can launch your lovable apps and get feedback from users.

26:07And then I think what you're going to see is that single people, companies, where the founder has great product taste, we'll be like single person SaaS companies and be able to launch and market them just thanks to the wisdom of the crowds figuring out where the best high value SaaS products are. And that's launching tomorrow. Yeah, that's launching tomorrow. Well, break a little news here on the show, Jason. Great guest. We've had him back, I believe, even since then. And then finally, now, Jason, actually, we have the clip predicted at the top that this was going to be the best episode of the year.

26:36Oh. Double header of all-star guests. We had Rahul Vora of Superhuman, now, of course, of Grammarly, which has taken on the name of Superhuman, and Vlad Tenev of Robin Hood. Here they both are together discussing their approaches to great design. But Vlad, my question was going to be, I mean, you've had such a success. You've scaled your organization much further than Superhuman is right now, and we hope to be where you are at some point. How have you scaled the teaching of design? So I think we've heard things like don't design by committee, but the actual nuances of the craft and what makes Robin Hood Robin Hood, how have you taught those pieces to people?

27:13This is such a good question. Yeah. Professional development. Yeah. I mean, I think it starts with great people, people that you trust being in leadership positions where they have influence. We've gone through this as we've grown the company and the design team where the first go around, we hired some professional managers that were kind of further from the work. But I think the balance we've reached is the people that are the best at the work whose taste we trust the most are in leadership positions. And then they're kind of pushing things forward. And you kind of supplement. I supplement that with being in meetings with them, being in jam sessions with them.

27:50And meetings are not just forums where we review the work, but we actually do design in meetings and actually change things. There you go. Four amazing guest segments. What's your pleasure, guys? What did you think was the best? Gosh, it's a tough one. Lovable. That was a great guest. I think Raul and Vlad is all time. So I think I'm going to go Raul, Vlad. But what do you got, Alex? You know, I'm going to take Doug. Doug was good. Yeah. Oh, God. And the reason why is it was like, like we're almost like a reluctant knowledge because I feel like what Raul and Vlad were talking about, very interesting, but very much almost in their favor to say.

28:26Whereas I feel like Doug is kind of like walking and throwing hand grenades behind him, which makes him extra special to me. Okay, what do you got, Lon? What do you got? Yeah, I'm gonna break the tie. I think Rahul and Vlad, one of my favorite episodes this year. I went back this week, I was re-watching all these. I think that's obviously a standout episode, but I gotta give it to Doug Leone. A legend. I'm with you guys. Yeah, you guys both convinced me to change my vote. And funny. It's one of the funniest episodes of the year, for sure. He's just got a great personality and a great way of speaking.

28:57and it's a delight to listen to him. All right, I'm going to go with you guys. Doug Leone, legend. Congratulations. Up next, the best Jason rant of 2025. Lots to choose from. Let me tell you, I had, this list was 10 plus at one point and I had to winnow it down. First up, Jason got a little fired up after hearing about the r slash anti-work subreddit and went off on his feelings about working from home Let's take a look at this clip from April 30th of this year. If you are a young person, I think, and you've been doing this for a while and you're convinced like it's, you know, it's some crazy capitalist and they're forcing you to come to work, it's actually in your benefit.

29:40I think not socializing with people is making a generation of very weird people. I've been talking to some parents who have kids older than us who lost their entire college years or lost their high school years to the COVID lockdown. So they literally lost graduation of college or graduation of high school. You should demand as a young person to be in office and to be near the locus of power and to be mentored and to be professionally developed. You should be demanding that. You're getting ripped off. Alex and I came up at a time, you know, me a little bit earlier, where we were in rooms with editors, reading our work out loud, telling us we sucked, telling us how to be better.

30:06We got to watch other people do the job. And we had people model it first. And the professional development that's happening on when we have our Monday editorial meeting for Foundry University, which I've been at two or three of them. I mean, the learning and the feedback I'm getting back from people is like, whoa, that is like the best part of the job. One of the core challenges facing every single early stage company is getting your first 100 customers. And I say this all the time here on This Week in Startups, to get there, sometimes you have to do creative things, even things that don't scale.

30:32So what does that actually mean? And what are some tried and true techniques that have worked for founders in the past? And which one of those can you tap for inspiration? To find out, you could join an accelerator, or you could just check out this free resource online at HubSpot called How to Get Your First 100 Customers. This isn't just some little pamphlet with generic ideas. No, it's a full framework. And that framework is filled with practical tips and real-world case studies. from amazing founders and experts, including my pal, Sam Parr, and Sean Puri, you know, the hosts of My First Million, which is a great podcast.

31:03I listen to every single episode. They're just awesome. So download the guide for free at clickhubspot.com slash twist one, or just find a link in the description of this show. And thanks to our friends at HubSpot for sponsoring today's episode. All right, next rant. This is from May. This is aimed, it was aimed at the time at AMC theaters and their management, but I think it just speaks generally to the theatrical exhibition industry. Here's Jason's thoughts on how to fix movie theater. They made skiing into a drug for a certain cohort of people where you just get that high, you want to keep doing it.

31:39Movies have done the opposite. Movies have said, every time you want to come here, we're going to make it more painful for you. You want to buy a ticket and you bring your family of five? Great. You know, it's 10 bucks a ticket on average, 50 bucks. And you want to buy stuff at the concession stand, it's going to be 10 bucks per person, minimum, probably more like 15. So family of five, you know, if mom and dad sit it out, the kids get$15 each. Now you're at 95 bucks. 95 bucks for two hours of entertainment. That's not cheap, right? And so people were, and then maybe you got the Epic Pass. Maybe you go skiing for the entire day for free.

32:01People are making these trade-offs in their mind. Then they were like, oh yeah, we need more money. So how do we get more money? We're going to add$2 to everything for 3D. I'm going to make you watch a movie in 3D that you never asked for 3D. Oh, I'm going to put it on IMAX. We charge another 3 bucks. So now you're getting to 16 bucks. Oh yeah, I'm going to make it a luxury theater. You're going to be able to order food to your seat. Now the 10 bucks in popcorn and drinks went to 25 bucks to chicken fingers, et cetera. I literally spend$250 when I go to the movies now. Let that sink. Five people,$250, about$50 a person.

32:22I go to an IMAX. I like the IMAX dinner. That's$18 a ticket. And everybody orders dessert. And so it's basically combining dinner. Anyway, if they just went with an all-you-can-eat model of$20 per person, and then maybe if it's a family of five, you discount a little bit, you get to$50 per month for a family of five. We would go to the movies two or three times a week. They could do, I believe, what the ski industry did, which is make people addicted again to the experience of going out and seeing movies. Love it. Great, great rant, J. Cal. I give myself a pat on the back for that one. That one definitely holds up.

32:49Holds up, for sure. This one from late July was aimed at the T app. You'll recall this was an app that was briefly available in the app store that let women discuss problematic men in their lives privately without men having access. It got pulled from the app store. It got hacked. There was all sorts of controversy around it. Here were Jason's thoughts on the T app. They didn't encrypt the driver's licenses, pictures, and reviews of former dates or boyfriends that women were leaving in this app. So this is incredibly damaging on like multiple vectors. Number one, a person's driver's license and their photo being released in a hack opens them up to subsequent hacks.

33:32Yep. And if that person had posted about somebody they dated who they felt was dangerous, let's say in the worst circumstance. Yep. If that's true and that person was dangerous, well, then you've just let a dangerous person know that you wrote a review of them that you thought was anonymous. Other than that, great application, though. Right? Fantastic. Brutal. Yeah, it's one of those things that grew from like women used to have like spreadsheets that they would share like this or like in-person networks. And I feel like those kind of whisper networks make sense. But the moment you put it on an app that's in the app store, there's a lot of problems that are going to develop.

34:08Last one on our Jason rant lineup. up uh i'll just say the title you can't trust zuck let's take a look i remember this one oh boy it's every year i do this one but then the weakness to that is empathy and humanity and at the cost of some like logical discussion and then he put people around him who cannot make or do not have the ability to tell him when he's doing something that is absolutely abhorrent stupid and long-term bad for society. And this is why I've said since the beginning, you can't trust Zuck. Zuck can't trust Zuck. Zuck should understand. He's made the wrong decision about Instagram, kids on Instagram, banning Trump from the platform.

34:51Every decision he could make, he makes the wrong decision on these social issues. Therefore, he needs an abudsman. He needs a group of people on that board or around him that's not Mark Andreessen or not Peter Thiel. I was about to say, he's got Mark right there. No, these people are going, you know the people who you made money with that's like putting me you know on travis's board or on robin hood's board like those are my guys i believe in them i'm gonna be like yeah now i'm a little bit unique in that i would tell them when they're up but whatever's happened at meta has metastasized to the point where zuckerberg does not have anybody around him telling them when they're doing stupid this is a dangerous place for somebody with that much power to have oh yeah that's pretty clear it's gotta be zuck right because i was so fired up well no you're You win on that one because you said meta and then metastasize, which I believe is a really good play on.

35:39Yeah, I didn't catch it the first time. I didn't catch it either. It wasn't intentional. What do you think, Lon? You favor the movie one? No, no. I think it's unanimous. The moment I picked this one out and clipped it, I was like, oh, it's absolutely going to be the Zuckerberg grant. And it's such a twist class. I mean, it goes back to the very first season of Twist. You were already, remember you looked right into the camera and you were telling people about not to trust Facebook and Facebook. apps. That was like six months into the show. So it's a classic. Yeah. 15 years ago, I was like, listen, he's going to steal your ideas.

36:10Okay. Let's keep moving. Let's keep rolling. All right. My favorite category is up next. The most controversial moments of 2025. These are times when the show got a little spicy. Sometimes the podcast gets a little spicy. So up next, we've got from my first episode back on the show, February 10th, we were discussing Super Bowl ads. That's why I've got the Super Bowl image behind me. And we're talking about Jason and his rejection of dangerous rich guy hobbies. Let's take a look. Yes. John Denver was for everybody. So John Denver was for everybody. And as I always warn my friends who want to become pilots, if you've got a great life and you're rich and you're famous or any combination of those things, love, you've got a family, you don't need to be an experimental pilot.

36:57It's like right in the name, like test pilot. You don't need to do that. If you're rich, you're powerful, you're famous, You could have a test pilot. You could let other people be the test pilots. I'm, of course, referring to the fact that people don't know. John Denver died young, flying like some experimental plane. Listen, sometimes just have a need for speed, Jason. No, I gotta tell you, it's so dumb. Cave diving, experimental flying, and motorcycle racing. None of that. Don't do them. Also, experimental subs, please. Let James Cameron do the submarine tech. He's the expert. That's another one.

37:27A billionaire and his son decide they're going to go on an experimental submarine. if it has experimental or test in the word. If it's being operated with a PlayStation controller, you don't need to be on that. Hard to argue. Hard to argue with, I think, those points. Unless you're Tom Cruise, it's hard to argue with all of those points. RIP John Denver. What's next? Up next, in April, you'll recall a group of celebrities went on a Blue Origin flight into orbit. The group included Katy Perry. So we all had some thoughts about Katy Perry's flight and return from orbit. it here's uh here's that clip she looks terrified yeah and then when they were walking onto the space shuttle she's having second thought and then the moment they got katie perry vomiting no the moment they got back this is right when the spacecraft landed katie perry kissed the ground yes okay once again katie perry making herself the center of attention of course oh even more gail let us know that as they were attempting re-entry katie perry treated them all to a little song the best part was when we got back in our seats after zero g's katie's saying what a wonderful world.

38:26She did. Oh my God. Oh yes, yes, yes. Oh, because you're in a spacecraft, you kick it away. It's a command performance. You can't escape. Wow. I can't think of anything worse. Just let us enjoy the moment. Get out of space. We're looking at earth, the majesty of the cosmos all around you. And Katy Perry's got to be like, hang on. I need to make this moment better. I mean, wow. I just want to shout out Orlando Bloom. Now we all know what this poor man has to go through. There's a lot going on here. I'll just leave it at that because that rocket kind of feel like the design of the rocket is a little bit trolling.

39:01Oh, it couldn't look more wang-like. There's nothing you could do to make it look more like a wang. No, it is literally designed to evoke a certain, yes, a phallic image. I mean, rockets inherently look like penises, and then this one is designed to just look like a circumcised penis. Oh, God. Very graphic. No lie in that entire clip. oh god i'm having more fun than i expected all right what's next all right up next from august uh jason responded kara swisher former former friend uh former confidant went on i guess the host of the pivot podcast now i thought she went on the bulwark podcast and they were discussing her her on again off again friendship with jason and then jason responded on twist so here here is that um i just feel like he had he just has made a trade that i don't love and i wish you would call me because i'm like it's fine to argue jason maybe i'll call her right now on air should i call kara swisher on air right now just have her go on here i'll just call her on it what people don't know is all in makes much much much much much more money than pivot does and it's higher in the rankings than pivot every weekend so i think a little this might be reverse jealousy that that show is so popular um but it makes a magnitude more money than uh pivot like multiples already and Pivot's been around forever and this is like a four-year-old podcast so it's really not about money and then in terms of money like yeah what I learned about money is after 10 million dollars it doesn't matter and I have much more than that so I don't care about money I've never cared about money um and maybe maybe that's a problem for people that I'm not motivated if I was motivated by money I would be sucking up to Zuckerberg I think I do a pretty good job calling balls and strikes.

40:38I just am very pragmatic here and honest with Tim on his podcast. People on the left were over the moon giving money to the Democratic Party to get all kinds of concessions around DEI and all kinds of concessions around regulation for AI. And now there's a ton of the same people, same people who flip to Trump because it's good for their business. This is what business people do. You just mentioned in the last one, what do capitals do. They manipulate politicians. They back them with money to get the result they want. This has nothing to do with Jason Gallagher. This has to do with how the world has always worked.

41:13After$10 million, guys, it doesn't matter, clearly. It does. What you got that much? Take it from me. Between that and the private jet stuff, I really think that I'm learning a lot today. I'm growing as a man. All right. Last one. This is from Halloween, October 31st of this year. This is actually, I believe, among our most viral clips of the year. We cut this one. into a short. It's got hundreds of comments, tens of hundreds of thousands of views. I would never work with Sam Altman and OpenAI would be the title. Let's take a look. If I was a developer of any kind, I would never work with Sam Altman and OpenAI.

41:50Let me say that. This is a warning. People can clip this. This is a warning for anybody dumb enough to use Sam Altman's OpenAI API. They are studying you. Remember, Sam Altman's been around the block. I've known him since Loop. He's an incredibly savvy person and he wants every bit of revenue from the ecosystem. He isn't taking no prisoners. He's going to study how you're using the API, which he has the right to do. Sam Altman comes from the Zuckerberg school of business, which is give dumb people access to your tools, study them, and like the Borg, steal every innovation they have. And Zuckerberg got it from Bill Gates and Microsoft.

42:26Microsoft had a platform and operating system. They let people build Lotus 1-2-3. Then they did Microsoft Excel. They let people build of product called WordPerfect and WordStar, and then they built Microsoft Word. Now, wait, what category are we in again? Most controversial moments. Most controversial moments. And people, I think, were a little surprised, Jason, that you were so critical, I think, of companies using commercially available AI models via popular API hooks. I mean, like, a lot of companies are doing this. I think I'm right. I think if you use the commercially available models and you're not containing the learning, they could benefit from it.

43:03And I honestly don't believe that they're not figuring out ways to backdoor your data into their models. So I think maybe for me, that was the most controversial moment saying, don't trust the large language models. But what do you think, Juan? That was definitely the one the public found most controversial. To me personally, I got to go with Katy Perry in space. I thought we covered a whole lot of ground in that clip. I think all of it was pretty spicy. It got pretty personal. Yeah. I think Jason went too far on the Orlando Bloom comment. Also, he's out of date. She's dating Justin Trudeau, but also critically in that segment, we got Lon to say Wang-like, which I think was an all-time surprise in terms of language on the show.

43:44What do you got for most controversial? I mean, it's got to be the Katy Perry thing. Katy Perry wins. There it is. Congrats to Katy Perry. I mean, I can't think of anything worse than being trapped with Katy Perry on a space flight. That's a controversial statement. That's a big question. I would say in an elevator, I would be pretty counting the floors. Two more categories left. We're almost out of here. Almost out of here for the twisties. We're getting there. We're getting there. We're at the home. This is like the fourth hour of the Oscars where they start making jokes about how long it's been.

44:14So up next, we've got a first ever award this year, the Disgraciad of the Year. Jason gave out a whole lot of these. Notebook LM pulled up many, many examples. but I've winnowed it down to the top four. Up first, Apple and Tim Cook got a big disgrace-y-od. This is in episode 2162 back in August. Let's take a look. And listen, I mean, say what you will, if we're sitting here a year from now and actually Apple's making products here, that's what Steve Jobs actually wanted to do. He wanted to make these products here. And you and I were having a private discussion about Apple. I think we'll start here.

44:52Just how disgrace-y-od this company is. It's disappointing. That's how I feel. I feel disappointed. When we got the iPad, when we got the iPhone, you were looking forward to a lifetime of exciting Apple products. You were gonna, every five years, there was gonna be some new, amazing innovation. And it has not been realized, that vision. And you and I were in Santa Monica doing Mahalo, and we would go to the Apple store, which had just recently opened. We were there for the iPhone launches. We waited in line overnight, yeah. Yeah, and it was like some of the greatest moments in technology history was that showmanship and that commitment to releasing new groundbreaking technology.

45:27And I think once we got through the pipeline of whatever Steve Jobs had thought of, there was nothing bold left. And I said on CNBC, I think there's a case for Tim Cook, you know, leaving. I didn't say get fired. I don't think I might've said that. And it was like - Disgross the odd to Apple. Up next, this is another clip from early, early in the year, January 6th. Jason taking aim at the Vail Ski Resort. Let's take a look. Which is Vail Resorts. The company, the stock ticker is MTN. Oh, MTN. I looked that up before. MTN. And let's see, five years. I'm looking at the five-year stock. It's down.

46:08Yeah, if you bought the stock in 2021 for$272, you've lost half your money. You've lost half your money. So this organization, their stock price tells you that they're mismanaged and not run well, I think. Yes. Correct. And they probably should, there should be some stock shareholder lawsuits here, just based on the just utter incompetence of this. There should be a no vote. And listen, I have an Epic Pass for, I don't know, six, seven years and I love it, but this is a terrible organization. It's a disgrace. Disgraciad, as we say in Brooklyn, Disgraciad.com. I own the domain Disgraciad and I am going to redirect it.

46:45I don't even know how to spell that word, but you should redirect it to Vale's IR page. It's D-I-S-G-R-A-Z-I-A-D, as I have learned this year. That's how you spell Disgratziad. Disgratziad.com. And now it's infected all in. And now, yeah, it's everywhere. Timothee Chalamet will be doing Disgratziad soon. Next to Phil Helme is on the poker table. Sorry, Lon. Go for it. Up next, here's a clip from June. The only politician to make the Disgratziad list, L.A. Mayor Karen Bass. Here's what Jason had to say. For people who just landowners, I heard you mention they were going after ranch owners, et cetera, who have to deal with fires too.

47:26And by the way, I was spending time with Rick Caruso, who ran for mayor, lost to Karen Bass. In LA. In LA. Karen Bass, complete incompetence, disgraziade, like the worst leader you could ever have during a crisis. As we saw her freeze up when they were just asking her questions about what you're going to do when she was on some boondoggle out of the country while the city burned. And I hope he runs again and I hope they put him in there. The African nation of Ghana. That's where she was while LA was burning. Finally, from October 1st, an app has made the actual disgraciated list. It's Bank of America's mobile interface.

48:02Let's take a look at this clip. There's some poor team who has to relive their trauma. All right, here we go. There's just a generational shift. Most people don't want to use these old banks. They want to use the new banks. Most people don't want to use the last paradigm. They want to use the new paradigm. the interfaces on these are incredible you know if you open up your bank of america it's just when compared to using venmo or using robin hood it's it's so crazy to me that these big companies can't just hire elite designers to refresh their app if you were working at bank of america or any of these major banks like literally just go find a design firm to tell you what to do and just spend to million dollars having three different design firms make you three different versions each now you get nine versions and just have the ceo or the president whoever's got taste say this one yeah is all mobile banks i think would be up for that disgrazia but i'm glad we neared single out one of them who's yours alex who's your disgrazia i'm gonna go with with your gut yeah i'm gonna go with apple uh not because it was the best like angry riff on why they're bad, but just because I really fundamentally agree with it.

49:17Like I really think that Apple is a company whose products I use, but I find interchangeable today. And that loss of magic is a crisis. Blond? Yeah, I totally agree. If we're going on who deserves the disgraciate of the year the most, I think you've got to go with Apple. The AI disappointments aside, just where are the great compelling Apple products of this generation? I air buds are the only ones I can think of air pods, not air. You want to do a way in. I got to go Apple. I think it's the most logical of all the discrepancy. It is disgraceful that they can't come up with something super compelling other than this, like tiny, thin phone, which like if that's the big innovation, it's thinner.

49:59It's nice. I think it's like beautiful. But honestly, like after buying it, I would never buy it again. I'm going back to the other one. the second I get a chance because the camera sucks so bad. But even that, it's not an original idea. They already did the Air. Like we already got the thin laptop and the thin iPad. They're just doing that again for the phone. Yep, should have made a cheaper Vision Pro to begin with, y 'all. Got some market share. I also don't really, I don't want a thinner phone in my pocket. I feel like that wouldn't feel right. It's at the right level of bulkiness, I think, right now.

50:34Make it twice as big and give me three times the battery life and I'll buy four. Yeah, that's never been a thought where I'm like, gee, I wish my phone was lighter. Like, I've never had that thought once in my life. I mean, it feels nice in your hand. That's all I'll say. It does feel nice in your hand. There you go. That's something. That counts. All right, our final category. I saved a fun one for last. These are the best Alex dad jokes of 2025. Again, so many to choose from. A lot, a bevy of options. and we actually have two nominees from the same episode episode 2174 from september 5th here's the first one where alex says uh he's got a pass to call jason the c word but he doesn't it's true that c word let's take a look well it was just like you know before we got on the show and you were using the c word over and over again and i was like you can't call me the c word alex you're like i'm in i'm zooming in from england i'm in english right now i have the uk pass i'm australian I'm allowed to say that Jason is capacious.

51:34You're correct. Yes, you did say capacious multiple times. I took it the right way. I took it in the spirit. It was intended. We have fun here at Twist, ladies and gentlemen. We have fun. From the same episode, here is another Alex dad joke from the same episode. The same episode. Same episode. Back to back dad jokes. This is around the time my second child turned one, so I must have really been on one. All right, here we go. Into these dad jokes. Here we go. To find stuff. If only I knew a guy who wanted to be a studio head and had some money. I mean, like, it's almost like if that person had money and time, they could.

52:03I mean, making raunchy stoner comedy seems like a genre that, you know, you could do some real damage. That's like my personality after 8 p.m., so I'm totally here for it. That was a dad joke from Alex. Sorry. I heard that. No, don't apologize. We love it. I don't even mean to. Anyways, keep going. There it is. Falling, falling right into them. This is a very recent one from December 15th. Only last week we got, we snuck it in under the wire. This is Alex on Lightspeed Ventures and their latest fund. Let's take a look. Oh, yeah. Right. All right. Here we go. Very impressive fund. I did not know they were all of those names, but now I can see why they managed to put together$9 billion.

52:41Shout out to everyone at Lightspeed. Please take everyone out to lunch because you have enough cash for that. Yeah, absolutely. And that immediately goes into the Alex's Best Dad Jokes of the Year. Thank you. Well, I'm running out of time. I mean, I got to squeeze them in, man. Makes them easier to find when I tag them. Right, Lon? I tag them like that. Makes them easier to find at the end of the year. They come right up in notebook when you put that. But I will say, this category, I did a pretty exhaustive search. I looked even for ones that didn't come up in the notebook LM deep dive. Hard to find them.

53:14You know what I wanted for Christmas? I wanted to force Lon to endure my crappy humor for hours on end. So I got it. We had the whole team. We broke it up into fiscal quarters. but we had the whole team rewatch almost every episode. I did Q1. We had Jacob doing Q2. Marcus doing Q3. We really exhaustively searched. We didn't want to leave anything out. So finally, from April 16th, not so much a dad joke. We all, the entire team, just really liked the way Alex said, yes, sir, in this clip. This is just hazy. A quick look from April 16th. I am so excited today because I know that Alex's grin can mean only one thing.

53:55Somebody filed to go public. Who was it? Yes, sir. It's Figma. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. It's Figma. That was my honest feeling. I was so excited. What do you got, Lon? You're such a student of the comedic arts. I mean, we all, I have been saying yes, sir, like that all week. So I think that has my... I'm going yes, sir. I think that's my history. No, the correct one was capacious, clearly. What a good year, guys. We did like 150 some episodes. We covered so much fricking ground. The world changed so much. And we even mostly got along. Yeah, absolutely. Mostly. There's your dad joke early for next year.

54:35I got, I got one more clip there. Well, we'll exit on. All right. We've got some random memorable moments that didn't necessarily fit into any category. So I've got, I've got one here. We were going to do a whole category of Jason's Trump impressions. It felt a little overkill to me, But I've saved this one from episode 2109 on April 9th. Here was, I think, the best Jason Trump impression of 2025. We have this expression here in Texas, as the crow flies. Yeah. I don't know if you've heard this. It's also in Tennessee. I think it's in Tennessee. Groceries, that old-fashioned term, groceries. But as the...

55:11It's a word. Groceries, okay? It's just a word. I love that. It's like one of my favorite Trump clips of all time. I don't know. It's a simple word. Like simple old-fashioned word, groceries. Groceries. Made me chuckle, so I wanted to throw it. How many Trump impressions were there to choose from? Because I feel like it happens like once a month at least. We had four or five in the category, and I just thought, you know what? That's a lot of Trump impressions. I don't know if we need to make it a whole thing, but I wanted to show that clip at least. Oh, I'm happy for us. Happy end of the year, guys.

55:40Happy New Year to everyone listening. We're back next year. And we'll see you in the new year on Twist. Bye-bye.