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0:00I'm going to put something out there, J. Cal. This is going to be an A+. I'm going to predict it to be an A+. Okay, here we go. Multion.ai. The way it works is it's a Chrome extension. It's pretty invasive because you have to give it full control of your browser, but it's super powerful. And so what I'm able to do, book a meeting tomorrow with Jason at 2 p.m. And what you're going to see it do, it's going to kick off and it can read it to you. And it's good. It's good. But like, yes. Holy cow. For people who are not watching, the Chrome extension has taken over the browser. The inmates have taken over the asylum.

0:42I've given up control of my browser and it's set up the meeting. Oh my Lord. Yes. That was incredible. Okay. I see where this is going. This Week in Startups is brought to you by OpenPhone brings your team's business calls, texts, and contacts into one delightful app that works anywhere. Get 20 % off your first six months at openphone.com slash twist. Curotech, are you one of those companies that knows you need to be using AI, but you're not even sure where to start? Well, then you need Curotech. They are AI experts and they're offering twist listeners and AI strategy roadmap tailored to your business for $5 ,000.

1:19That's 50 % off the normal cost just for telling them we sent you. Check out curotech.com slash twist and get$5 ,000 off. And Northwest Registered Agent will form your company fast, give you the documents you need to open a business bank account and more. Visit NorthwestRegisteredAgent.com slash twist to get a 60 % discount on your next LLC. All right, everybody, it's Monday. That means my guy, Sonny Madra is back and we are going to do more AI demos. This has been an extraordinary year, Sonny, of people just releasing so much product at such a violent pace that here on this week in startups, we said we're going to dedicate every Monday, kick off the week right with demos of the latest technology.

2:03So you, the audience, you don't have to worry about keeping up to date with all this. We've got our teams, Sonny's team at Definitive, my team here at launch. We're looking for all the greatest demos. And then we just show them here and we give them a letter grade this week in startups.com slash AI to see all the demos. Today, we're going to hit our 100th demo. So that means we've been through 100 AI companies. And that's pretty awesome, right? That also speaks to the pace of innovation happening that in a relatively short amount of time, we've been through 100 demos. And I think we're going to hit 200 pretty quickly as well.

2:39So it's very exciting. Yeah. And we now have a Google sheet. And so if you go to thisweekinstartups.com slash AI, we'll put a link there to both the playlist on YouTube and a link to the spreadsheet of all the demos so you can see them in reverse chronological order and if you missed one you can either watch us do the demo you can click on the link but let's get right to it i like to have the time between when we start the show and get to the first demo be under two or three minutes so let's get right to it okay all right so the first one i'm gonna just i'm gonna put something out there jay cow this is gonna be an a plus i'm gonna predict it to be an a predicting an a plus okay yes i'm gonna predict it to be an a plus all right so great set of founders come with an incredible background.

3:20The company is called Multion. Multion.ai. Yeah. And the way it works is it's a Chrome extension. It's pretty invasive because you have to give it full control of your browser, but it's super powerful. And so what I'm able to do, I'm going to start here and say, book a meeting tomorrow with Jason at 2 PM. And what you're going to see it do it's going to kick off and uh you know it can read it to you and it's good it's it's been like yes holy cow for people who are not watching the chrome extension has taken over the browser the inmates have taken over the asylum and it's popped up uh essentially a co-pilot opened up google calendar it knows how to click on google calendar and i've given up control of my browser and it set up the meeting oh my lord yes that was incredible and that's not all it can do um this thing's gonna be dangerous uh oh is it about to trade crypto on your account i mean say buy some bitcoin yeah let's see what it does i'm not doing that why not what are you scared let's go tell it to buy some bitcoin let's see your coinbase balance uh is it you you could do uh you know write a tweet about uh this we uh about multi how about we just do this about multi-on right okay right wait about multi-on okay yes this could get dangerous yeah yeah yeah and this is where oh boy here we go whoa and right uh you know it didn't send it it queued it up yeah yeah it queued it up and then you know but right we'll give them some credit here right maybe we could they didn't fire it off right that was but that's it right and uh okay i see where this is going yeah i mean here's the crazy part if this was covertly put onto somebody's browser and the ai was there man you could be doing some really crazy stuff with this because you could just tell it caused chaos right yeah yeah this is where chat gpt4 claude and other services we've talked to sonny yes said we're not letting people go out on the open web and do stuff we are concerned that if you were to let ai a language model an ai agent if you let it go out onto the open web it could make mistakes it could do really bad damaging things to you it could also you know very quickly do great things and this is where i don't know if you saw the interview with rabbit jesse from rabbit r1 i had him on the pod the the handheld device yeah great that we got him good job for the producers but he's building these uh large what did he call it it's not about doing a large language model it's about doing a large action model i think is what he said and so this is what we're getting to now is large action models incredible yeah and so i'm doing just another one here and uh yeah it it's wild right so like you know this is gonna get really good really fast so you tell it to go book a flight it goes to google flights it knows what google flights is holy cow yeah wait how do i download this oh i'm in firefox so maybe i need to be in chrome well you're in firefox and two you need to the link is in a notion which is in our ai um because it's still like in private beta so you have to kind of register get the link and do all that okay so they're just not letting everybody go on this because they too know yes this could get crazy and they don't want it to get folks watching it's just continuing its task of going and like booking you know picking what did you ask it to do just find me a business class flight you know tomorrow from San Francisco to New York, right?

7:11Okay. And you can customize it such that you can tell it to use United Airlines or things like that. There's some customization you can do in their backend. And so it is pretty wild what it's able to do. Now, does it have any kind of controls on it and settings to not make a purchase or to make a purchase? Would it go and confirm this if your credit card was in there? If you told it, hey, buy me the best ticket tomorrow in business class at the best price or have they told it don't hit the buy button yeah you know to be honest i haven't gone all the way through on an airline purchase but it there is a lot of customizations you can do and you can create very custom workflows for your own um you know needs as well so um you know this is a really really high caliber team as well so i think they're going to bring all this functionality it's all the warnings you know basically you're going to if you give it access it basically can do anything it wants in your browser has access to everything but i think they're going to be able to make life really, really easy for folks because they're just navigating on top of a browser, you know, web browser.

8:15And so you don't even have to really log in. That's what we've been talking about, right? Because you can just, you can already be logged in and all the sites that you have. And so the Notion link, the Notion link to their downloads in our AI Notion. So you can pull it from there if you want to try it out. And apparently I was just searching for them, but I guess they raised some money maybe already. I don't know. I think they just did an announcement. General Catalyst, maybe? Congrats to General Catalyst investing in it. Oh, yeah. Nico from General Catalyst, I guess, invested in it. So really great job.

8:46Congratulations to them. It is an A +, a rare A +, here, but it's a great hack because Chrome extensions and a lot of desktop browsers is where considered purchase or thoughtful work is done, as opposed to your phone. And on your phone, you might research flights, you may not consummate your travel. You know, a lot of people will, you know, consume or browse information on their phone, but they may not make a purchase on their phone for something that's considered. Or if they want to put something on their calendar, you know, that might be something you do during the day with the full browser window.

9:20Your browser has all of your passwords, your credit cards, all that great stuff in it. You're authenticated with all your tools, you know. So if you said, hey, make a new Notion page or put this into Coda or fire up my Squarespace website, now you've got a Chrome extension with a bunch of users. And if it learns over time, let's say it just people learn, you know, Squarespace. They're making beautiful websites. And Squarespace, you know, allows certain behaviors. You can say, update my website, change this page, put some graphics on my page about Christmas or the holidays or Thanksgiving. This could be a way for a service like Squarespace or a service like Coda or Notion, Zendesk, whatever it is, to have an interface that mimics actual users' behavior.

10:11And so it's going to learn over time what you're doing. And a lot of things are in your browser. You might have your QuickBooks in your browser, for example. This shortcuts a lot of stuff in the AI kind of integrated world. And it really shows the power of the models today and the ability to get them to drive. And this is where there is like one, you know, there's been a lot of thing about AI regulation and fear. This is where we're starting to approach some very powerful things. And so it's good that there's proper companies that are funded that will be validated through their investors and everyone else.

10:47And so a number of these will emerge. And I will just suggest that like people that want to try these things, make sure you're using them from like a trusted company that has like you know proper financial backing and things like that because yeah this could get dicey real quick um worst case scenario uh this could be communicating on your behalf yes in a way that you don't anticipate it could be making purchases or setting up meetings or deleting things on your computer sharing things on your computer you don't want shared yeah this could get dicey real quick and this is why people say there should be controls you can guarantee a bad actor with the same approach could do some seriously damaging things so yeah this is an a plus hands down uh an a plus and um i this does make you think perhaps the uh googles of the world uh chrome will have this built in as well so why not we would think so right that's where you know we we want this to go right and so that that's what we would think that this is something that would be part of Chrome as like a, you know, part of, you know, tied into a bunch of Google models.

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14:30I don't got time to chat. I'm busy. And then you have to authorize, right? Which look, that's safer for you, but you have to go through all that work and pull up your passwords or do an OAuth. This just end runs everything. I'm already authenticated. My Amazon's in here. You have my, I want to ask you questions. Hey, tell me what I've spent on Amazon. And it knows, go to orders and give me a graph. Yeah. Multi-on. Think about that. a graph of my weekly spending by category my monthly spending by category on amazon since i opened my account and it goes to the orders page it scrapes all that data and it gives me the charts you know how many iphone cases have i bought or what was the what are the coffee brands i bought before and tell me the average price per pound like i know this sounds stupid but you know if you start thinking about what you do in your browser every day you know hey what was that a new story if this thing had my history what was the new story i read about you know great hotels in miami uh or go search for the top sushi restaurants in miami and then tell me which ones are on open table and then go see the check the availability that's something that actually could be done in your browser in a not too difficult way now if you wanted to do that in chat gpt or claude it'd be like i can't do that sorry or you'd have to wait for open table to create a plugin that had all that access and you know yeah this is n run time it's n run i love it a plus plus a plus plus multi-on good job how do i get in on this because i'm on their website and i can't download the chrome i gotta sign up for the api or some nonsense so you know inside our notion we there's a link you'll see to their notion which has the download link to the chrome oh okay well we'll put that in our show notes as well so and you see it in the sample prompt just on the right there.

16:14Oh, the sample prompt. Okay, here we go. That's how you get to download there. Download multi-on. Got it. Okay. I'm here for this. I mean, this is like something where I very rare instance where I want to get off the pod with you. Nothing personal. Install this and get to work because this is going to save everybody a ton of time. There it is. Add to Chrome. And yep, here I am. I'm in. And now I got to sign into. So I need to sign up for my account. Yeah. Okay, here we go. I'm signing up right now. And I'm scared to death, but screw it. It's going to do a flow. I think it makes you verify your email and then you'll go through it.

16:51And then it's going to take over your homepage of your browser. That's how it kind of triggers itself. Yeah, this is pretty cool. I got to say, this is like, this is as good as it gets. You know, we always talk about wanting to be in the future. This is about as close, right? We're thinking about just automating our workflows in our existing workflows. Yes. and this is a password you want to get right oh yeah make sure you turn it on in your chrome extensions you should be able to log in it's all in beta still so okay uh i love it all right what do we got next we started with an a plus i love it i gave it an a plus i gave it an a i i gave it a predicted i predicted an a plus a plus yeah yeah pre-a plus okay as good as it gets we're gonna add another theme to ai this year and this is an important one which is uh i'm gonna pull this up This one's called paid leave.ai.

17:40Okay. This is like a good friend of mine, Rasmusher Johnny. She was a founder of Girls Who Code. And now she running a organization called Moms First. And so Moms First has created for the state of New York, an AI powered chat bot that basically helps folks figure out how to access these resources to help them with paid leave, whether it's financial or just other questions that may have different types of benefits. And so it's, like I said, it's done really well. It's just, this is where you see the power of AI. So if it's like, I'll just pick one of their sample questions here. So folks, I'm just on paidleave.ai that are listening.

18:21I'm having a baby. I don't know where to start. And basically, it's going to gather the information and tell you about the process to applying for paid leave, how to do it. And are you employed? And you just basically work through this whole thing. and where do you go for this kind of stuff? And so I think one of the things that AI really is going to do for folks that have to interact with a lot of government bureaucracy, which exists for this, it's going to really simplify this down. And so they've done an incredible job to leverage AI and just a chat. And the beauty of this, I'll go back to the other page in a second.

18:59And so it's just kind of walking through. It's like, I'm having a baby. I don't know where to start. It comes up, so I'm currently employed. and I've been for over a year. That's great. So since you've been there, you're eligible for paid leave in New York. Let's figure out how you do it. As a new parent, you get 12 weeks. So a lot of people don't even know this, right? Who pays for that 12 weeks? This is the state of New York or is this like the child care credit? I'm not sure who's paying for this. Is this your employer or whatever? I mean, this is great. I think if you think about the jump between government agencies not being, you know, being a black box of information and then, you know, having customer support in here.

19:31Yeah. So look at this. I just asked, I said, Paid leave in New York is funded through small payroll deductions from all eligible employees. So while you're on leave, your benefits will be paid by your employee's insurance carrier. Oh, interesting. This is like stuff that's, it's happening. It's all embedded in our, you know, HR payroll benefits and we don't know about it. And then what I really thought was incredible in terms of what they did for an experience is, you can ask the questions in different languages, right? Because there's a lot of people that, you know, maybe can't, you know, navigate through the ecosystem.

20:06Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I know. I mean, you're in New York is the melting pot, you know, and people coming through Ellis Island or used to come through Ellis Island and see the Statue of Liberty. You might have somebody who's Chinese, somebody who's French, somebody who's Japanese, Spanish, whatever, speaking. And here you go. Boom. And this is, would a government agency take the time to have all of their information in 10 languages? No. No, AI will do that though immediately. Would they take the time to pick up the phone and answer your questions and walk you through stuff? No, they can't possibly afford that.

20:38And this is where customer support is going to save time and save money and increase their offering. Yeah, this is an A. It's an A. Yeah. I gave it an A. Yeah. I mean, it's going to change everything. Yeah. And we need more of this. We need it across the country. Every state should have something like this. and every federal organization should have something like this. But definitely, we should push for all states that have this. It helps the folks there. Okay, you've seen Sunday Night Demo a ton of AI tools, and we've learned that these tools are going to help you do so much more with less. That means more revenue and less overhead.

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22:45And you can see here, it's providing links that are related to the question you asked so that you kind of really, is there a chance there's no hallucination here? No, but you can really minimize it, especially if you kind of force it to be sure. And so. Got it. So it's being told, hey, answer the questions based on the pages on this website and give a link and a citation as opposed to just using the language model to guess the next word. Correct. So this is a much more specific, narrow set of information. I love it. I give it an A. Yeah, it's great. Awesome. It's going to change everything. Same here.

23:17And it's like, you know, just these basic questions again. Can I take state paid leave and paid leave from work? Right? Yeah. And it's like, yeah, you can combine that. It's really, really just a great, great service. Let's hope everybody reaches it and uses it and sees our post and gets into it. Send it around, please. Yeah. Please. Yeah. Awesome. Great job. Awesome. What do we got next? We've got a strong start here for the 100th demo. I know. No, we had to bring it. All right. You're going to really like this one. So this one's called Consensus. And Consensus is super interesting because they have their own website and they've been like a top three GPT app.

23:50And what this does is you ask a question. So let's just say, is intermittent fasting healthy, right? Okay. And what it does is it looks through 200 million research papers, finds the ones that reference it. It gives you a summary up top and it says, look, I looked at 20 papers. Yeah. You know, 70 % of them said yes, 30 % possibly none said no. And it gives you like a summary across all papers. You can filter it by, you know, if you want to only look in recent years or study types or study details or specific journals, you can imagine, right? Yes. And it just kind of answers questions that we all have around, you know, health related things through looking at 200 million research papers that they have.

24:37Incredible. You know, these research papers are funded a lot of times by the government. These like different publishers try to intercept them and put them behind paywalls and then people can't get access to them. And also, let's face it, some of them are vetted really well. Other ones are not vetted. And you need more sunlight on these. You need more ability to sort through them and surface the important ones. And so this is going to get better and better. Somewhere inside of these 200 million papers are the answers to a lot of life's questions or what are the next questions to answer or to ask rather, and what study should be done next.

25:14So, you know, if people start coming in here and talking about intermittent fasting and you might actually be able to figure out, well, what questions aren't answered, right? And you could send an AI into this back to like agents. you can go to consensus and say hey what are the topics people are searching for most on this website what are the questions they have what studies should be funded next right and the ai could start leading society down the trail of listen obesity fasting diet these this is like the number one category the number two categories around you know cannabis use or you know anxiety whatever it is and you could actually start having it kind of inform what should be the way google trends you know and stuff like that and form stuff but hey here the consensus meter is showing that for diet these are the things that we don't have consensus on yet if we don't have consensus on these diet issues well that's a place to put more research and maybe more research dollars and so and then who should do the research like who would be the next best researcher to do something so what's the next research to do on diet or fasting and who should do it and what question should they ask this is going to get sick because right now who does that it's just like random people are like what should i study next i don't know how studies are done or formed but this does seem like it could give a great path excellent top of the funnel or you know just the ecosystem of health and wellness and scientific research and in this world we live in where the internet is becoming populated with just a lot of opinion this ties it back into research which i think is really really important worth noting here aaron schwartz um who was part of reddit i think he was kind of considered like the third co-founder you know okay he if you remember was uh prosecuted by the feds for going into jstor uh archives of all this academic stuff putting it on a hard drive he kind of had hacked you know when i'm using hack like in lowercase hacked he didn't break into anything but uh and you know he was getting charged by the feds and he wound up tragically committing suicide um and he was like a really cool um kid i had met him once or twice um and he was just trying to get access to information and then the feds went after him for like computer breaking and entering and so just read up on the case of aaron schwartz s-w-a-r-t-z he was a really sweet kid it really makes me angry uh what they did you're not aware of that case or were you when you said it you brought it up um i i remembered but like i'm gonna look in more into it like i don't remember all the details but like this just happened within the last maybe five or seven years right it might have been back in like 2010 or something i don't know exactly but he was like an activist kind of kid you know um and a hacker and he went and downloaded 2013 yeah sorry that was in 2010 he used an ip address as part of the mit network and he began sending hundreds of pdf download requests per minute to the j store website um and it slowed the site's performance um yada yada yada and he had done this uh with a computer that he had put in a storage closet or something to get around paywalls if i remember correctly and i mean he downloaded a a bunch of stuff then he got arrested um and the secret service like went after this kid for wire fraud computer for you think about how scary that is yeah and then he was indicted these like federal prosecutors went after it's just classic case of overcharging and overzealous like insane prosecution of this kid and and he wound up committing suicide on january 11th 2013 13 and then they dropped the charges these absolute scumbags uh yeah honestly like really this is who you're going after like a kid who just is doing what this ai is doing you know just a bunch of these pdfs and like he's not stealing it he was stealing like a bunch of studies i mean it's infuriating to me so yeah dedicate this one to aaron's memory of like just he's just trying to get knowledge off the internet and off of like the servers to like you know make things better you know yeah exactly uh this the who knows what this kid would have gone on to do so yeah anyway i give this an a it's amazing i give an a for amazing i don't know how good it is it might be a b plus maybe i'll give it a b plus i think if it added the features i'm talking i'm gonna give it a b actually i'll give it a b because i do think there's all these things that i mentioned that it could start doing.

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32:04All right. There you have it, folks. I give it a B. What do you give it, Sonny? I'm going to give it an A. I think, look, there's room to what you said, but I look, I find the internet is very difficult to search on these days. Everything is like a combination of like SEO optimized pages. You don't really get to the scientific and there's a lot of these questions. Too many paywalls. Yeah, exactly. So popovers. Yeah. Yeah. And so this gets you right to what it is. And I think there's room for improvement with new studies. And I think that will come, but I'm a big fan of it. I think they've done an incredible job.

32:39Okay. Let's keep going. All right. Okay. The next one is kind of like more, I want to talk about like multiple things. And so from there we can maybe branch up and pull one more up as well. But this is something I wanted to highlight because just pace of development, we've been talking about this just last week. And the best way for me to kind of highlight that is just to pull up this tweet from Barsi. Last week, 160 models were released. We're talking about doing the 100 demo, right? Everything from this new AI model for de-blurring, which you can see here. Google launched Lumiere, which is their image to video.

33:15We've seen these before. Yep. Replace everything. And so this is an excellent one, which is like, it can generate sound for you to match the video content oh wow um you know and i you ever watch those people are walking across a you know walking across the wood floor with whatever it makes the sounds i got it you ever watch like those behind the scenes of hollywood movies and there's like these studios where people are like doing weird things to kind of recreate sound and so yes like if you want to do a broken bone in a fight they take celery sticks and they'll just break some celery sticks like when somebody gets punched to show their ribs are cracking or yeah if they're gonna walk across the floor they have a little piece of wood and then they just have in their hands like coconuts then you show them like using coconuts cut in half to go across the floor yeah i get it those they call those sound those sound engineers have a name but yeah foley in filmmaking foley is the reproduction of everyday sound effects that are added to film videos and other media f-o-l-e-y foley so this is a foley artist you don't need to have a foley artist anymore you just you just go straight to that's the end of their careers yep well or another job gone by ai or they will adapt which i think they will as well uh i don't know about this one if you play this scene of like a fight scene and ai perfectly puts in the sounds and it's coming from a library of sounds of previous fights and the person who is the director is saying you know what i want um a little more crunchy sounds when they make contact and uh i want like the breathing to be heavier when the person gets punched in the gut at 37 seconds in like that could save a lot of time and money i think this does replace the foley artist i mean their union so i think it'd be hard to replace them but that was like just a kind of a segue into into the last demo for today okay and so the last demo for today and i really want to highlight something um and you know talk talk about um one of your really good friends okay um you know for a very long time elon has been very aggressively pushing for vision only a perception to the point where they you know they never put lidars on cars like the spinning things that we see on the self-driving vehicles and they've even started to remove the ultrasonics and what was released this week by tiktok was a depth perception, depth estimation algorithm that basically can look at a video and look at, and from the video, it can infer distance.

35:50Oh, wow. And so, you know, here's just this tweet. I want to give AK some credit for it. But then, you know, I had it pulled up here and I have one of my favorite JCal pictures. And basically, look, you're standing somewhere and, you know, it's basically giving me depth, right? This kind of lines up, right? The left part of the picture is closer to me, then it's you, you're standing in front of the background, and then it goes into the background. This is a game changer. Because if you think about what we've been trying to do with robotics, what we've been trying to do with self-driving vehicles, and now that these models are coming open source, and it really kind of goes in, not that Elon needs validation, but it validates Elon's thinking of, hey, we as humans have eyes, we don't have LIDARs, we don't have all these other sensors, were able to do depth perception.

36:38That's how we should do it with software. And now we have a model that you can go and you can use and you can see it in real life. Amazing. So if you know the depth, when you have a simple robot with a simple webcam on it, when it goes to pick up the orange, it knows the depth with a higher fidelity because of the algorithm done here, correct? Correct. And think about things like Cafe X, right? Who's had to build an incredible hardware system, but also an incredible software system to be able to make the coffees and the espressos and basically make them available. This will take what they've been doing and enable their software to be even more powerful because they've had to, you know, my guess is, and it's very similar to the V12 release of FSD, they removed 300 ,000 lines of C++ because they can replace it with, you know, AI that can leverage this type of technology.

37:33So this is a TikTok release. TikTok is releasing this to open source. Yeah, exactly. Amazing. How do you find these things? Because there's so many of these things being released constantly. How does one keep track of all this activity aside from listening to us? You know, I would say there's like kind of three main avenues for me. I monitor the popular projects on Hugging Face. Got it. That is like sort of like a, you know, almost like a zeitgeist in its own way that, you know, you can see things popping up and the projects that are getting used. The second thing is there's, you know, a few great, you know, folks on Twitter now.

38:13And Twitter is the center or X is the center of the universe for where people are publishing the know-how as well. Got it. And last is there's archive, right? Which is where the research papers get released. Got it. And so prior to things becoming available, even in hugging face, the research papers are getting released. And that's what's amazing about kind of open source and where we are in software is that everyone wants to share when they build something. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, it's so cool. Very similar to like Elon and the patents are like, hey, we'll just make them available because, you know, humanity should grow here.