The school report that changed public education

3 Sep 2026 · 37 min · 12 chapters

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In short

The episode traces how the 1960s Coleman Report (Equality of Educational Opportunity) investigated racial inequality in U.S. public schools, what it found, and how its conclusions shaped later policy debates over busing, testing, and what schools are “for.”

Guests (named in transcript)

Victoria Kane, history professor at Northeastern University who studies the history of education; Thomas Kane, economist and faculty director of Harvard’s Center for Education Policy Research; James Coleman, mathematical sociologist who authored the report (appears as the central historical figure); Robert Crane of the RAND Corporation (critic); Michelle Vasquez-Jacobus (law and society teacher; listener praise); Justin Whitlow (listener).

Key claims

Inequality persisted after Brown; the Civil Rights Act Section 402 required a national survey; Coleman found achievement gaps tied more to family socioeconomic background/aspirations and classroom socioeconomic mix than to school resources alone; misreadings followed (e.g., “money doesn’t matter”); busing was used as a remedy but Coleman later opposed it due to “white flight.”

Notable examples

1963 segregated amusement-park protest by the Coleman family; 1966 release mishandled over July 4 weekend; New York Times headline “Negro education is found inferior”; 1971 Supreme Court busing mandates; 1975 Coleman follow-up against busing; No Child Left Behind’s reliance on standardized testing.

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Thomas Coleman's Protest Against Segregation

0:18 to 2:54

Learn about Thomas Coleman's childhood protest against segregation and its historical significance.

“Thomas Coleman can still remember the trip that he took with his father to an amusement park when he was a kid.”

Introduction to the Coleman Report's Impact

2:54 to 3:51

Discover the key questions raised by the Coleman Report regarding educational inequality.

“Questions we're still trying to answer today.”

Historical Context of American Public Education

4:57 to 14:00

Explore the historical battles over education in America and their impact on schools today.

“Desks, pencils, pictures of American presidents, maps of the nation.”

Introduction to the Report

14:00 to 14:27

The segment introduces the context of James Coleman's educational survey.

“These are big, complicated stories, and they're changing fast.”

Coleman's Survey Methodology

14:27 to 20:53

James Coleman designs a survey to collect data on educational inputs and outputs.

“In 16 months, he was expected to produce a report and hand it to then-President Lyndon Johnson.”

Unexpected Findings of the Coleman Report

20:53 to 23:24

Coleman's report reveals shocking truths about socioeconomic factors affecting education.

“His findings are totally explosive and they are not what he or anybody else has anticipated.”

The Reaction to the Coleman Report

23:24 to 24:23

The Johnson administration's disappointment and media response to the findings.

“But that's not the world that these kids are living in, and they don't expect for that to happen to them.”

Interpretations and Misinterpretations

24:23 to 27:09

Different societal reactions and interpretations of the Coleman report's data.

“The Coleman Report doesn't make light reading.”

The Aftermath of King's Assassination

27:09 to 28:06

The societal upheaval following Martin Luther King's assassination and its impact on education.

“It's going to be a hot world, not a hot summer.”

The Impact of King's Assassination on Schools

28:06 to 29:01

Learn how the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. sparked significant changes and debates in American schools.

“Anchorman Walter Cronkite broke the news to millions of CBS viewers.”
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Consequences of the Coleman Report

30:15 to 36:27

Explore the debates and repercussions of the Coleman Report on public education and busing in America.

“Consequences There's a battle underway these days which challenges some of the most sacred assumptions of the great American dream.”

The Ongoing Struggle for Educational Equality

36:27 to 38:42

Understand the complexities and challenges of achieving educational equality in American schools.

“Donald Trump has brought the conversation front and center, driving the news cycle.”
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Transcript

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0:18Victoria Cain:Thomas Coleman can still remember the trip that he took with his father to an amusement park when he was a kid.

0:24Thomas Kane:Gwynnock's amusement park was a little bit on the outskirts of Baltimore, I guess. It was a small amusement park. It was segregated in the 1960s.

0:35Victoria Cain:The all-white park was a 20-minute drive from the family's house in Maryland. His father was a prominent sociologist at Johns Hopkins University. It was July 4th weekend in 1963. As Thomas tells it, the family took a trip to the amusement park, but not to go on rides, to protest segregation. It would draw national attention.

0:58Thomas Kane:So you would walk up, they would pair a white family and a Black family, and they would ask you, you know, are you here to go to the amusement park, or are you here to be arrested? You know, we were there to be arrested. And there's a picture that was on maybe the front page of the second section of the Baltimore Sun of us, the family, being led away.

1:19Victoria Cain:The Coleman family, mom, dad, Thomas, and his brothers, were led to detention at an armory.

1:26Thomas Kane:So I was asleep on the bench, but my brother John was awake and got to go over with my parents to be fingerprinted.

1:34Victoria Cain:His father, James Coleman, was one of hundreds on the ground demanding change for equality. A few years later, again over July 4th weekend, a landmark report bearing his name would be published. It was a massive data dump that would transform the trajectory of American public education for generations to come. It was called the Equality of Educational Opportunity, or simply the Coleman Report.

2:02Thomas Kane:He said, this is the data, this is the evidence. You know, you may like it, you may not like it, but this is what it is.

2:09Victoria Cain:And that data has been debated by educational scholars and historians ever since.

2:15Thomas Kane:This was the first large-scale effort to measure the sources and the extent of educational inequality in the U.S. And it launches a thousand ships of questions, of research agendas, of new places for scholars to investigate.

2:38Victoria Cain:I'm Randa Abdel-Fattah. On this episode of ThruLine from NPR, we tell the story of that 60-year-old report that investigated inequity in American schools. Its findings raise complicated questions. Why are schools broken? How do we fix them? And what is school even for? Questions we're still trying to answer today.

3:08Victoria Cain:Hey, ThruLine. This is Michelle Vasquez-Jacobus.

3:12Thomas Kane:And oh my goodness, do I use ThruLine. I teach law and society. Boy, I really appreciate all that you all do and so love the program.

3:23Victoria Cain:Thank you.

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5:04Victoria Cain:Picture the American classroom. Desks, pencils, pictures of American presidents, maps of the nation. But behind all that is a political battle, one about what our children should become. It's a battle that goes back two centuries.

5:22Thomas Kane:A lot of people would argue the starting point is actually the 19th century. And the question becomes, how do you create a citizen?

5:32Victoria Cain:Victoria Kane is a history professor at Northeastern University, and she studies the history of education.

5:38Thomas Kane:How do you provide opportunity, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for all your citizens?

5:45Victoria Cain:It's the way we build democracy. It's a notion that Thomas Jefferson championed until his death. education is fundamental to the prosperity of a democratic state. Schools would unite everyone with a shared national identity, striving to build this new country. As the 19th century rolled forward and waves of immigrants started coming to America, the government needed public schools to do more, starting with how to speak, read, and write in English.

6:17Thomas Kane:Americans become convinced that public school systems are the way to transform the immigrant poor into Americans. Look, we will build a school and we will transform society eventually through that school.

6:33Victoria Cain:By 1918, going to school was mandatory. But the reality was that economic hardship shaped access to schools. And for Black kids in particular, there was segregation. After the Civil War, there's an influx of money spent on creating schools for Black students in the South. Over the decades, Jim Crow laws slowly eat at that system. Across America, schools were resourced very differently depending on where they were. Affluent communities fared well. Schools in impoverished communities, not so much.

7:07Thomas Kane:The NAACP starts bringing lawsuits. They turn to the courts to try to integrate schools and try to ensure that Black students can get the resources or access to well-resourced schools.

7:25Victoria Cain:There's a major victory in 1954. The Supreme Court finds that segregation in public schools is unconstitutional. But after Brown v. Board of Education, integration stalls, and the federal government knows it needs to act. So nearly a decade later, in the summer of 1964, President Lyndon Johnson signs the Civil Rights Act into law. I want to take this occasion to talk to you about what that law means to every American. Now, the United States would legally end state-sanctioned Jim Crow segregation. With Johnson's signature, the federal government was tackling racial inequality head-on. The Civil Rights Act was a part of his broader Great Society project, which outlined racial injustice and poverty as two sides of the same coin.

8:19Victoria Cain:So things like unemployment, poor schools, and lack of health care were not standalone problems, but the direct result of systemic inequality and discrimination. And one of the key goals of this project was…

8:33Thomas Kane:The dream of education for all of our children.

8:36Victoria Cain:Public education. To fix the nation's schools, the Johnson administration now has two weapons to tackle that problem. One is in the courthouse with the backing of the Civil Rights Act. And the second is money. Lots and lots of money. With the passing of something called the Elementary and Secondary Education Act in 1965, The administration has a huge budget line for school funding, more than a billion dollars to spend. He just needs to know how. At the time, no one really knew what was going on in American schools. That the schools were unequal was a given.

9:18Thomas Kane:The people passing the Civil Rights Act are really hoping to gather some data to make an airtight case for the necessity of integration.

9:29Victoria Cain:Johnson focuses on poverty and the disparity in resources as the root of America's problems. Racial justice, equal education, those things would flow from economic prosperity for all. Johnson's solution for the classroom was to integrate, and he wants to send resources to schools that need help. Now his administration just needed proof of how segregated schools were. The problem? There wasn't any data available. So the Office of Education spends many months coming up with a plan for how to get the information they need.

10:03Thomas Kane:They want to establish that segregation by race remains widespread throughout the country. They also want to establish that the schools attended by Black children are inferior to schools attended by white children. And having hard data is going to prove this.

10:23Victoria Cain:If you read the fine details of the Civil Rights Act, there's a tiny clause within it, buried deep inside its passages.

10:31Thomas Kane:Section 402, it's this dry little paragraph, and it requires that the Commissioner of Education conduct a survey and report to the President and Congress, quote, concerning the lack of availability of equal educational opportunities for individuals by reason of race, color, religion, or national origin in public educational institutions.

10:55Victoria Cain:Because with this document in hand, the Johnson administration would have a green light to spend all of that money.

11:01Thomas Kane:It will allow the federal government to take final and decisive action. Maybe the federal government can start cutting off funds from segregated systems.

11:10Victoria Cain:This tiny passage is hiding a gargantuan task. Survey schools across the entire U.S. And through that data, figure out just how unequal the schools are. Plus, the clause stipulated a pretty urgent deadline. The results of that ambitious project needed to be delivered to the government in a report within two years.

11:33Thomas Kane:The clock started ticking in the summer of 1964.

11:37Victoria Cain:This is Thomas Kane. He's an economist and the faculty director of the Center for Education Policy Research at Harvard University.

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11:44Thomas Kane:The commissioner of education and his team had to go out and find somebody who had run a big study like this. And James Coleman was one of the few that had.

11:53Victoria Cain:He is a gifted, well-respected mathematical sociologist. James Coleman was studious, unassuming, and a guy who really loved numbers as a way to understand people.

12:03Thomas Kane:He is somebody who pays attention to the quantitative, but he is keenly aware of cultural influence, cultural impact.

12:14Victoria Cain:And what catches the Commissioner of Education's attention was a big study Coleman had recently published about how nerds and jocks behave differently in high schools. I know, it sounds like something out of a 1990s John Hughes movie. But it gave Coleman street cred. It involved crunching a lot of data about kids in schools. So James Coleman agrees to take on the big assignment, survey as many American public schools as he can to find out to what degree they're still segregated, and more importantly, to figure out what's contributing to educational inequity.

12:49Thomas Kane:Even today, like if you told me, go out and design a study and survey 600 ,000 students and have a report ready in the next 16 months, I would have told you. That's huge. That's going to be really hard to pull off.

13:08Victoria Cain:After the break, James Coleman tries to pull off one heck of an all-nighter.

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14:22Victoria Cain:Part two, the report. It's 1965 when James Coleman starts working on the survey. In 16 months, he was expected to produce a report and hand it to then-President Lyndon Johnson. The administration thinks that the data James Coleman collects is going to tell them something they already know. That they need to send more resources to schools that need support. And that they'll withhold funding from schools who are discriminatory. Basically, they want to throw money at the inequity plaguing schools and hope that it makes a dent. And the government is confident in what they think the data will show.

14:59Thomas Kane:That marginalized communities will be sent to separate schools and those schools will be badly funded. and that is why those kids will be performing poorly on tests. That is the story that they are assuming they will find.

15:13Victoria Cain:Now, the language in Section 402 is a little vague. It doesn't quite stipulate how to measure schools or how to go about designing a study of this size. And so to some extent, James Coleman can design what he wants. Imagine the education system is this giant machine. He needed to collect data about all the mechanical things the machine needs to do its work.

15:36Thomas Kane:The idea is to measure educational inputs.

15:39Victoria Cain:Conditions and resources that help a student achieve their learning goals. Things like...

15:44Thomas Kane:Books in the library. The quality of educational facilities. Does your school have a science lab? Dollars in the school budget. How many movie projectors with sound equipment does your school have? How many cataloged volumes are in your school library?

16:02Victoria Cain:To measure these inputs and whether certain schools have better inputs than others, James Coleman writes up all these kinds of questions in his survey. But Coleman goes beyond what the law requires. He also wants to look at something no one is really paying attention to, something called educational outputs.

16:22Thomas Kane:Educational outputs are how effective the education a student has received in school is. Those are harder to measure.

16:35Victoria Cain:Harder to measure because they address how a student has changed as a result of their schooling. Coleman really wants to understand aspects of the student's life experience that tests or inputs couldn't reveal much about. So he writes questions that try to address a student's lived experience. Like, how many people are in your family? How far in education did your parents go? Where does the money come from in your family to pay for things like groceries? Did anyone at home read to you before you went to school?

17:05Thomas Kane:So in many ways, what Coleman is doing in asking students about their own educational expectations or their family's educational achievement or background, but also what is the impact of racism? What is the impact of educational inequality?

17:28Victoria Cain:He even asks students about their own perception of their futures.

17:32Thomas Kane:Whether they feel like they have control over their own success.

17:36Victoria Cain:So, okay, he has this survey filled with questions for elementary, middle, and high schools across the country. But it's not just students he's testing. He also includes a 30-item fill-in-the-blank for teachers to gauge their verbal skills. ETS, the educational testing service, distributed the survey. When the request to participate in the study first goes out, he gets zero responses. A student on his team has to write schools a note saying, this is an act of Congress, please call ETS this week. Finally, responses start rolling in.

18:10Thomas Kane:involving more than half a million students in thousands of schools. And he spends the fall of 1965 collecting data. And it's hard because no one has ever launched a national data collection effort in schools like this before.

18:33Victoria Cain:A lot of schools in the South refused to take part in the study, afraid they'd be seen as deeply segregated. But it wasn't just the South. Other places withheld data, too, like in Chicago and L.A. But they still got a lot of responses.

18:48Thomas Kane:Eventually, he gets questionnaires from 600 ,000 1st, 3rd, 6th, 9th, and 12th graders. 60 ,000 teachers.

18:58Victoria Cain:And roughly 4 ,000 schools. Coleman has thousands of pages of questionnaires coming and going from schools across the nation. Hundreds of boxes of documents to compile and review. And wrangling all those boxes isn't easy.

19:12Thomas Kane:One of his postdoctoral researchers talks about bringing all of these boxes on the train and then leaving them on a train seat. And they end up going one direction and Coleman ends up going the other. So he has to scramble to get the boxes back.

19:29Victoria Cain:Now he has to crunch the data.

19:31Thomas Kane:He is using computers, huge mainframes in Princeton, New Jersey that are associated with ETS. But these are primitive. He doesn't have the full range of statistical tools that we have today, nor does he have the computing capacity that we take for granted today. You probably have more computing power in your iPhone than he has at his disposal to crunch all of these numbers. And then he has to write the report. He locked himself up. And he's surrounded by boxes and he's got bottles of bourbon to take the edge off at night. And they are just working nonstop around the clock to try to make sense of these hundreds of thousands of tests and questionnaires.

20:25Victoria Cain:Remarkably, in 1966, just two short years after the Civil Rights Act was signed into law, James Coleman had finished his report.

20:36Thomas Kane:It's less a report than it is a data dump. 700 plus pages of data.

20:45Victoria Cain:The evidence that the Johnson administration expected and wanted to find is not what they read in Coleman's report.

20:53Thomas Kane:His findings are totally explosive and they are not what he or anybody else has anticipated.

21:02Victoria Cain:The data tells a complicated story. Yes, the schools were still segregated. That is true across the country, in both the North and the South. And Black children were performing several grades behind their white peers. This is what we now call the achievement gap. But the report also tells a story of why they are behind that nobody expected.

21:24Thomas Kane:What he finds instead is that two factors really seem to influence the educational achievement of students of color or low-income students. First, a family's socioeconomic background and their educational aspirations. That is revealed to be extraordinarily powerful.

21:49Victoria Cain:Really important. So how a student grew up, what life experiences they've already had, greatly influenced their learning outcomes. It's something we take for granted now. But at the time, nobody knew this.

22:03Thomas Kane:And second, a diverse socioeconomic mix in the classroom. A place where poor kids and kids who think they're never going to college, they are rubbing up against kids who are from affluent homes, who value education, who take college or high school graduation or honors classes just as a given. And those two factors he finds in his data seem to be the most important predictors of children's school performance.

22:39Victoria Cain:The bottom line? Student learning does not just improve when you increase resources. And beyond that, the report told a story about what students thought about their own futures.

22:50Thomas Kane:And his report reveals this feeling of resignation or even despair among low-income students of color. They didn't feel like their educational futures was something they could influence. Regardless of how hard they worked or how well they did in school, they just didn't feel like they had much power over their own fate.

23:11Victoria Cain:It seemed to undercut the promise of education itself. It's just tremendously sad.

23:17Thomas Kane:It seems to betray the whole idea of the American dream, that if you work hard and you play by the rules, then you'll get ahead. But that's not the world that these kids are living in, and they don't expect for that to happen to them.

23:33Thomas Kane:And the Johnson administration is not happy. It was naive to think it was all just about spending, because they had been making the case that we have to equalize the funding available to high-poverty schools. That's the way that we're going to deliver educational opportunity.

23:53Victoria Cain:Instead of clarity and answers, the Johnson administration now has a quagmire to wade through.

23:59Thomas Kane:They are so worried about the controversy that they think that this report is going to unleash that they effectively bury it.

24:07Victoria Cain:They try to quietly release the findings over Fourth of July weekend, hoping no one will notice or care. That's not what happens.

24:16Thomas Kane:The federal government has published a massive study challenging widely held beliefs on educating the poor. It's called The Coleman Report. The Coleman Report doesn't make light reading. Its official title is Ponderous, Equality of Educational Opportunity. It's a 700-page document filled with technical tables, charts, and statistics.

24:40Victoria Cain:The media gloms on. On that Independence Day weekend in 1966, the New York Times, in a tiny article, characterizes Coleman's findings incorrectly. Running under the headline, Negro education is found inferior. It says that predominantly black schools are inferior to those attended by white students and that this widens the achievement gap between the races. TV News also digs into the report.

25:08Thomas Kane:To many, the Coleman report raises more questions than it answers. The Coleman report is nothing if not a Worsach test. People find in it what they find. It seems to have something from everyone's point of view.

25:22Victoria Cain:Once it was released, anyone who gets their hands on data, from the federal government, social scientists, local politicians, they also start to cherry-pick the results of what he found, plucking out what they think the report means. And they are using it to tell whatever story they really want to tell. Depending on who is holding the report in their hands, any number of arguments can be made about how to approach segregation and the endemic inequality in schools. Conservatives interpret the report to mean that money doesn't matter.

25:55Thomas Kane:Oh, schools don't make any difference. And that's not at all what he was saying. But that interpretation gets enlisted by a lot of people who want to lower their taxes, want to stop the federal government from shoveling money towards schools.

26:12Victoria Cain:Some question its validity altogether. there.

26:15Thomas Kane:Others argue that actually the report is damaging, that it doesn't take into account the importance of the feeling of confidence or security that a Black child might have in a largely Black classroom with a Black teacher. This is the moment of community control, of nationalist liberation movements in the Black community, of Black power. Don't be afraid. Don't be ashamed. We want Black power. We want Black power. We want Black power. And they argue that the Coleman report is really disparaging. Black children don't need white children to learn. This report really fragments along racial lines.

27:01Victoria Cain:As debates about what the report says and what to do with it heat up, racial tensions in the country are also heating up.

27:08Thomas Kane:This is going to happen all over America. It's going to be a hot world, not a hot summer. It's a hot world. This is the beginning of the long, hot urban summers.

27:18Victoria Cain:Protesters are demanding that President Johnson deliver on his promises. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. turns up the volume.

27:25Thomas Kane:The bombs in Vietnam exploded home. They destroyed the dream and possibility for a decent America. It is estimated that we spend$322 ,000 for each enemy we kill in Vietnam, while we spend in the so-called war on poverty in America only about$53 for each person classified as poor.

28:05Victoria Cain:And it all comes to a fever pitch on April 4th, 1968, when Martin Luther King was assassinated. Anchorman Walter Cronkite broke the news to millions of CBS viewers.

28:18Thomas Kane:Dr. Martin Luther King, the apostle of nonviolence in the civil rights movement, has been shot to death in Memphis, Tennessee.

28:27Victoria Cain:In the aftermath of King's assassination, the nation's schools erupt. There are walkouts. There's enormous pressure on school boards to make changes. And through it all, Coleman is watching. Debates on what his findings mean are spiraling beyond his control. Then Coleman decides to weigh in with his opinion on what he thinks all of this data is pointing to.

28:52Thomas Kane:If this country means to have equal opportunity for schoolchildren, integration, said Professor Coleman, is the only way to get it.

29:01Victoria Cain:That's coming up.

29:08Victoria Cain:This is Justin Whitlow from Leicester, North Carolina, and you are listening to ThruLine.

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30:25Victoria Cain:In the wake of Coleman's findings in the 1970s, there's debate about how to fix American public education.

30:33Thomas Kane:The battleground is a little red or white or blue schoolhouse.

30:36Victoria Cain:The issue is whether or not what's taught inside that schoolhouse makes a difference to the students and to the society in which they live. Everyone agrees there's a problem. Schools are unequal. There's an achievement gap. What's not clear? The solution. Lawmakers decide busing kids to different school districts is one path forward.

30:56Thomas Kane:What do you think about this busing thing? Well, I think we'll make it the first few days, but the rest of them will be kind of tough.

31:03Victoria Cain:That's because in 1971, the Supreme Court had weighed in, deciding that busing is a constitutional remedy to achieve racial desegregation in public schools. Kids must start getting on buses to attend new schools, sometimes far from where they lived.

31:19Thomas Kane:To ensure people have opportunity, we need to bus. We need to mix people up by class and race. Do you think it's bothering many of the parents? Yes. Oh, it bothers me that my kid has to change the district, is all. As far as going with the color, no. I'm concerned about my schoolmates and everything, and I'm concerned about how we'll be treated and everything like that. and very much concerned about the education we're going to receive.

31:52Victoria Cain:Coleman's data starts getting cited in court-ordered busing mandates. While Coleman was very much for integration, he starts voicing concern almost immediately after the Supreme Court's decision on busing. It was not the answer, he said, taking issue with how judges used his data.

32:10Thomas Kane:He actually opposes it. He writes op-eds and he publishes editorials opposing busing, not because he is opposed to integration.

32:20Victoria Cain:But because Coleman worries that instead of creating more opportunity, busing would lead to even more segregation. To him, busing is going to lead to white flight. And it did. Coleman, still a believer that schools should be integrated, is alarmed. So he goes back to what he does best. He collects more data. Another solution, he argues, is needed. In 1975, he publishes a follow-up study, this time making the case against busing. And he's soon called to testify before Congress to explain his point of view.

32:55Thomas Kane:Kentucky Senator Walter Huddleston asked Coleman what alternatives are available to those who want to end busing other than through a constitutional amendment. My hope is that the Congress might attempt to provide a kind of alternative to full-scale racial balance through compulsory busing that would provide increased rights for blacks rather than restricted rights for both blacks and whites.

33:20Victoria Cain:It's not a popular opinion, and his reputation suffers. There's even an effort to expel him from the American Sociological Association. The genie is out of the bottle. Coleman couldn't control the narrative swirling around his data or around him. And yet he doggedly continues to publish more studies and crunch more data in the hopes of finding a solution the government can use. Sociologist James Coleman, principal author of Public and Private Schools. His critics say he's doing superficial and misleading research.

33:54Thomas Kane:Bumper sticker sociology, one critic calls it. Robert Crane of the Rand Corporation is harsher. He says Coleman set out to advance the cause of private schools. If you go to Congress and you say, I'm a scientist, and here's what I have to say, then you have to be a scientist.

34:14Victoria Cain:But Coleman wasn't conducting a scientific experiment that could prove cause and effect. Really, his approach was just a snapshot of the system. It didn't come with a roadmap that tells you where to go.

34:25Thomas Kane:You know, for decades, people thinking they knew the answer to questions that actually correlational studies can't answer.

34:36Victoria Cain:And history showed answers weren't easy. By the 1980s and 90s, more ideas.

34:42Thomas Kane:One of the newer ideas for how to build a better public school comes in the form of charter schools. These alternative, semi-autonomous public schools reject the idea that one size fits all.

34:54Victoria Cain:And then rigorous school testing a decade later.

34:57Thomas Kane:President Bush has signed into law one of the most far-reaching education bills in 35 years. The No Child Left Behind Act.

35:05Victoria Cain:That legislation updated the Elementary and Secondary Education Act, passed by President Johnson. It aimed to close the achievement gap through rigorous mandatory testing.

35:16Thomas Kane:The fundamental principle of this bill is that every child can learn. We expect every child to learn. And you must show us whether or not every child is learning. I think that one of the more damaging legacies of the Coleman report is this emphasis on quantitative testing as a measure of school quality. The idea of using a standardized test to gauge school quality, to examine how individual students are achieving, it's a pretty reductive measure. And it helps to flatten out the idea of what schools should do. It reduces them to places that can produce students who can achieve on a standardized test.

36:11Thomas Kane:You know, I think in a democracy, we want more from our schools than that.

36:16Victoria Cain:The long-tail impact of the Coleman Report is one we are arguably still living through today. And just as President Johnson did, and nine other presidents did after him, Donald Trump has brought the conversation front and center, driving the news cycle. What to do about American public schools?

36:35Thomas Kane:The Trump administration is stepping up its push to break up the Department of Education, transferring much of the agency's workload, including six offices, to other federal agencies.

36:46Victoria Cain:The Trump administration wants to make significant changes to Head Start. That's the country's early education and child care program for low-income families. Now, this program serves more than

36:57Thomas Kane:700 ,000 kids each year, from birth to age five, in both urban centers and rural areas. The greatest problem we have is the fact that children are punished in this country because of the zip code that they're born into.

37:15Thomas Kane:I think one of our big challenges in this country is that we cannot agree on what schools are for or what they should strive to be. That is a very American phenomenon. We love to think that schools will solve all of our problems, but we frequently ask schools for more than they are capable of providing. There's always this impulse to tinker towards utopia, to think that if we change this kind of curriculum or we alter this kind of budget, then we will achieve perfect schools that will help us achieve a perfect society. It's this long-held dream. The Coleman Report led to some misinterpretations of the evidence from the Coleman Report.

38:11Thomas Kane:It was just limitations of the research design, which contributed to a skepticism and a pessimism for several decades.

38:26Thomas Kane:How do we create a world where all students can have access to genuine educational opportunity?

38:37Victoria Cain:That is the very question that sent Coleman on his initial quest. We haven't found the answer yet.

38:49Victoria Cain:And that's it for today's show. Tune in to our next episode this coming Tuesday when we answer a listener's question. In a time when AI is revolutionizing how we live and work, they asked, where did the first Luddites come from? We have answers.

39:09Victoria Cain:I'm Randa Abdel Fattah. ThruLine was created by me and Ramtin Adabloui. This episode was produced by me and Amy Padula. Jasmine Romero.

39:20Thomas Kane:Julia Redpath.

39:21Victoria Cain:Molly Marcelo Sarah Wyman Liana Simstrom Irene Noguchi Thank you to Johannes Durgey and Cheyenne Butler. Fact-checking for this episode was done by Kevin Vocal. This episode was mixed by Robert Rodriguez. Special thanks to Stephanie DeLuca, James Heckman, Alison Baulos, Derek Neal, as well as Sheila Griffin, Anthony Brick, Richard Murnane, Paul E. Peterson, Steve Drummond, and Corey Turner. Music for this episode was composed by Ramtin and his band, Drop Electric, which includes...

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In 1966, the federal government commissioned a massive survey aimed at solving educational inequality. Instead, the explosive Coleman Report unleashed a 60-year debate over race, resources, and what education in America is actually for. This is the story of how the report came together… and the policy whirlwind that followed.

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Victoria Cain, Associate Professor of History, Northwestern University 

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