In short
The “fightback” after the murders of Dom and Bruno in Brazil’s Javari Valley—how Lula-era raids target illegal mining/logging, and how investigations suggest organized criminal networks behind the killings.
Guests and backgrounds
Gareth and Sian (Dom’s brother/sister) describe Dom’s funeral instructions. Beatriz Matos (Bruno’s wife) recounts Lula calling to promise protection of indigenous lands. Beto Marubo (Bruno’s friend/colleague; indigenous activist) and indigenous groups (e.g., Maioruna) perform unprecedented rituals. Sonia Brigi (Brazilian investigative reporter on Amazon shadow networks) investigates the alleged mastermind “Colombia” and criminal logistics.
Key claims
Dom’s will demanded non-religious leadership, specific songs, and a large party. Lula’s Operation Waki (“Javari’s D-Day”) destroys mining barges but the war is “already lost” given scale/resources. Environmental crimes are highly profitable; barges are often funded by wealthy/organized crime. Police suspect “Colombia” coordinated poaching and ordered/arranged murders (including Bruno and possibly Maxiel).
Notable examples
dredgers with mercury filtration; barges destroyed by Environmental Protection Agency special forces; Maioruna cutting hair for Bruno; Lula promising “no more gold miners/loggers/invasions.”
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
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0:31 to 1:17
Description of Dom's funeral and the specific instructions he left.
“Dom's funeral took place exactly three weeks after he was killed.”
Celebration of Life at Dom's Funeral
1:17 to 3:47
Details of the music and atmosphere at Dom's funeral, as shared by family.
“That's Tom's brother, Gareth, and his sister, Sian.”
Bruno's Funeral Experience
3:47 to 5:05
Insights into Bruno's funeral and the tributes from indigenous peoples.
“That same weekend, Bruno's funeral took place in his hometown of Recife.”
Political Message during Mourning
5:05 to 7:12
Beatriz's conversation with President Lula during Bruno's funeral.
“The Maioruna performed a ritual they hadn't done for decades.”
The Fight Against Environmental Crime
7:12 to 9:06
Overview of Lula's election and the environmental initiatives following.
“The hope was that people like Dom and Bruno's killers would be stopped and that Pelado and Jefferson would actually face justice.”
Special Forces Operation Against Mining
9:06 to 11:17
Description of a special forces mission targeting illegal mining operations.
“And while they might not have been able to continue their criminal activities, there were plenty of others who were.”
The Human Cost of Illegal Mining
11:17 to 13:34
Personal stories from miners and sex workers encountered during the operation.
“Big filthy metal disaster in the middle of the jungle.”
Destruction of Illegal Operations
13:34 to 14:03
Details of the destruction of illegal mining barges and the challenges faced.
“God knows what's going to happen to these people tonight once we leave.”
Operation Waki: The Environmental Assault
14:03 to 14:56
Learn about the intense efforts of Operation Waki to combat illegal dredging.
“I watched as Finger and his team basically repeated the process.”
A Blunt Admission of Despair
14:56 to 15:12
Discover the stark reality faced by environmental enforcers in the Amazon.
“And I've got to say, the bluntness of his answer shocked me.”
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The Complex Challenges in the Amazon
15:12 to 16:32
Understand the multifaceted issues contributing to the environmental crisis.
“All we're doing is delaying the catastrophe.”
The Role of Organized Crime
16:32 to 17:28
Explore how organized crime exacerbates environmental degradation in the Amazon.
“Sonia is one of the people who has gone deepest into the shadowy forces behind Dom and Bruno's killings.”
The Profits of Environmental Crime
17:28 to 18:16
Learn about the financial motivations behind illegal activities in the Amazon.
“The answer is multi-millionaire business people and even sometimes massive criminal organizations.”
Pelado: A Man of Many Faces
18:16 to 19:17
Delve into the life and complexities of Pelado, a key figure in local crime.
“But the very next day, the criminals will just replace it with another vessel.”
The Mysterious Colombia
19:17 to 21:10
Uncover the enigma surrounding Colombia and his influence in the region.
“and, like most people in the area, struggled in poverty.”
The Poaching Network's Operations
21:10 to 23:07
Examine how the illegal fish trade operates across borders and its implications.
“I mean, you've spent several years investigating this now too.”
Colombia's Criminal Empire
23:07 to 23:33
Learn about the broader criminal activities attributed to Colombia and his network.
“It's transported in airplanes, chartered ones, and doesn't face airport inspections.”
Pelado's Transition to Underboss
23:33 to 24:20
Discover Pelado's transformation into a key player within Colombia's operations.
“He's usually surrounded by a crew of armed men.”
Sonia's Dangerous Encounter
24:20 to 26:08
Hear about Sonia's risky investigation into Colombia's operations.
“It's not the kind of icebox that you put some beers to It's really huge It's like three metres by three metres It's deep And of course it has ice to preserve the fish while it's being loaded.”
The Interruption of Illegal Activities
26:08 to 28:03
Learn how Bruno's efforts disrupted Colombia's profitable operations.
“He was the guy that would hire gunmen, and some of those violent crimes he would commit them himself.”
Unraveling the Murder Conspiracy
28:03 to 32:36
Learn about the chilling details of Bruno's murder and the involvement of local criminals.
“If we're to believe Pellado's confession, he decided to kill Bruno in the heat of the moment.”
The Trial and Its Implications
32:36 to 36:27
Explore the dynamics of the upcoming trial and the challenges of achieving justice.
“that he hated them and what they stood for, and that it was Bruno who was the aggressor.”
Reflections on Violence and Activism
36:27 to 38:16
Discuss the ongoing threats faced by activists in the region and the cultural impact of the events.
“and sending a message that that kind of horrific violence cannot continue.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Hi, it's Helen here. Today in Focus is on our summer break and in our absence we wanted to give you the chance to listen to this really excellent series called Missing in the Amazon. It's hosted by The Guardian's Latin America correspondent Tom Phillips and it's from our new narrative strand, Guardian Investigates. It's a feed where you can find all of The Guardian's award-winning narrative podcasts, plus every new series we release. We'll see you on September 1st with a new Today in Focus, but in the meantime, here is episode 5. Dom's funeral took place exactly three weeks after he was killed.
0:35And I can say, with some confidence, that there's never been a funeral quite like it. So I have no words in English to explain this. Português.
0:47Na verdade, o Dom deixou um testamento muito bem organizado. E esse testamento ele já tinha antes mesmo de me conhecer, ele só foi atualizando. Alessa says that there were three very clear instructions that Dom left in his will for his funeral. The first one was that he didn't want it to be conducted by a religious leader. The second instruction was that music had to be played. And he left three songs.
1:30I love it that was the one that I think made everybody completely lose the plot and break down in tears right
1:46and a second one by an American group yeah I've been waiting I've been waiting for this moment All my life And then a third one which was a sort of disco anthem Good times
2:12You know he loved good times He loved being with his friends And having music and dancing So he'd obviously thought about it and decided he didn't want everyone just stood around, mooping about and being miserable. That's Tom's brother, Gareth, and his sister, Sian. He wouldn't have wanted a, you know, a cure song or something like that. He'd be really morbid and miserable.
2:39That just, for me, it was like, oh, my God, I've got to cry and I've got to laugh and I've got to move. I've got to do all those things because...
2:55The third stipulation of Dom's will was that a big party would be thrown. During the evening. They were drinking, the beer ended up, the beer ended up, the beer ended up, the beer ended up. So Dom hadn't stipulated a specific quantity of beer? He wasn't in the will like 5 ,000 cans of scol? No, no. so alice saying that three times during the the funeral the after party if that's the right way of describing it she had to call the the beer delivery company three times because so much alcohol was consumed and alice says that her family some of her family members said to her is this how all funerals are in england or is it just Dom?
3:44I think the answer is probably that it's... I think it was a Dom thing. That same weekend, Bruno's funeral took place in his hometown of Recife. Just like at Dom's, people from every stage of his life were there. I obviously saw Beatriz right away and we hugged and we cried a lot and Beto Marubu was there, so same with him. That's Leo Sech, Bruno's close friend from home. I mean, it's a funeral. It was horrible. But as a ceremony, it was good for the heart. In the days leading up to it, the different indigenous peoples of the Javadi Valley had honoured Bruno in their own ways.
4:34All of the indigenous peoples of Dejavari performed rituals and paid really beautiful tributes to Bruno in Atalaia do Norte. Beatriz Matos, Bruno's wife. Because he was so very beloved. He was very beloved. He was very beloved. This is also an incredible. This was also unprecedented. Bruno's dear friend and colleague, Beto Marubo. The Maioruna performed a ritual they hadn't done for decades. They cut off their hair. This is something they only do when a great Maioruna leader dies. But the Maioruna did it for Bruno. Never in their history have they done this for a non-indigenous person.
5:35At Bruno's funeral, his coffin was draped with the flag of his football team, Sporch, and speakers played a recording of Bruno singing a traditional Kanamari song.
5:50Afterwards, Beatriz were sitting there with their family. and with Beto, when her phone rang. Her aunt answered for her, and she turned to Beatriz and said, It's President Lula on the phone, and he wants to talk to you. Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, the left-wing former president of Brazil, the man who, already by then, had announced his intention to take on Bolsonaro in the elections being held later that year.
6:25I picked up the phone and he says, look, I want to pay my respects, to say how sorry we are and how much we respect your husband's work. You know, and of course I said, thank you, president. And, you know, we still call him that even though he wasn't president anymore then. I said, you have to protect indigenous lands. You have to rebuild indigenous policy in this country. And I was lobbying the president on the day of my husband's funeral. That's exactly what Bruno would have done to. I was inspired by him. And then Lula says, you can rest assured, Beatriz. I'm going to win and there will be no more gold miners.
7:09There will be no more loggers. And there will be no more invasions of indigenous land in this country.
7:20The hope was that people like Dom and Bruno's killers would be stopped and that Pelado and Jefferson would actually face justice. If only it were that simple. I'm Tom Phillips, The Guardian's Latin America correspondent. This is Missing in the Amazon. Episode 5, The Fight Back.
7:56That's the first helicopters just taken off here from the airport in Karawari and helicopter number two is now taking off to follow them. So that's two teams of the Obama Special Forces and they're going to fly about 45 minutes west towards the Hillboya where they are planning on destroying scores of mining dredges that that are moving towards the Javadi Valley indigenous territory, where Bruno and Don were killed. So there's real emotion in these guys' eyes today as they head off, trying to carry on the work of their dead friends. Lula won the election. He defeated Jair Bolsonaro by a whisker in one of the closest presidential races in Brazilian history.
8:39And he set about trying to halt deforestation with mixed results. In his first year, he managed to bring it down by 50%. But that still meant that huge areas of rainforest were being destroyed each day. And he also began the fight back against the environmental criminals themselves, who had been given the green light in the Bolsonaro years. Lula had been in office for about a year and a half. For all that time, Pelado and Jefferson had been in jail, but they still hadn't gone on trial. And while they might not have been able to continue their criminal activities, there were plenty of others who were.
9:20We're in the helicopter now. We're about to take off. And apparently it's about one hour's flight west-northwest of here to reach the point where they've discovered the boats.
9:32Part of Lula's strategy was launching these huge special forces raids on illegal activities like logging and gold mining. some of the most destructive industries for the rainforest. And I'd been invited to the first major offensive in the region around the Javari. I was with an elite squad of troops from Brazil's Environmental Protection Agency. The group's commander, a guy called Felipe Finger, an athletic and fearless forest engineer turned rifle-toting warrior, described it to me as their version of D-Day. The objective of the mission was to destroy 100 mining barges around the Javari Valley area.
10:15After about an hour of flying and seeing not a single soul, all of a sudden, on one of the waterways beneath us, a huge gold mining dredger came into view. Look at the size of the boat, the pilot says. Yeah, there's no one in it. There are a couple of miners and one of them is running up the stairs now.
10:36We landed on a small strip of sand along the side of the river and boarded the dredger using a smaller boat that one of the other teams had already commandeered. As the troops started rounding up the people on board, I had a look around. There was this huge metal drill right in the middle of the vessel which excavates the earth from the riverbed. And there's a filter covered in carpets. and that's where the gold is separated using mercury which is then dumped back into the river. Poisons the river, poisons the fish, poisons the indigenous lands around here. Big filthy metal disaster in the middle of the jungle.
11:21Grim. Then I went upstairs where things got grimmer. So just walking around this barge now, there are one two three bedrooms there's a kitchen with a cooker there's some pretty old looking chocolate cake there's a lot of dirty plates in the sink and then the rooms are just full of sheets and clothes and dominoes and chocolate and just you know medicine there are condoms all over the floor um and the uh the troops are telling us that they think often these boats also serve as brothels. It was a pretty depressing scene. 17 people just sat there on the edge of the dredger, being interrogated, one by one, by the Special Forces operatives.
12:15As they waited, some of them spoke to me.
12:21One grimy-fingered miner, a father of four, called Sales Gias Costa, said he had come hoping to buy his family a house. But it hasn't worked out, he says. I know we're destroying nature, but this is the only way we have to earn a living, he says.
12:45One of the three sex workers, a 20-year-old woman, described being recruited nearly 600 miles away in the state capital, Manaus. She looked visibly shaken. I've got a son, and this was the only opportunity I could find, she says.
13:08It's a really, really sad scene because, as well as an environmental catastrophe, it's also a social catastrophe. These people are from the lowest rung of Brazilian society. A lot of them are very young, they look very scared. And they're really struggling to eke out a living. Of course illegally, but here in the jungle. God knows what's going to happen to these people tonight once we leave. Shortly this boat's going to be destroyed. The helicopters aren't big enough to transport these people, so they won't be arrested. They're going to be left to their own devices here in the rainforest. miles and miles and miles, days from any kind of village or town.
14:02The 17 people were kicked off the boat, and from there, over the coming hours and days, I watched as Finger and his team basically repeated the process. You can see that now they've got torches. They're inside the boat. And then, they're mad. Oh my god, they need to get out of there. It's going up in flames.
14:33By the time I was preparing to leave, the Special Forces unit had destroyed or identified half a dozen barges. and by the end of their mission, they would have taken out scores more. Finger said that Operation Waki was the Javari's D-Day, so as his men were dousing the final dredger with diesel, I asked him if this was a war he felt they could win. And I've got to say, the bluntness of his answer shocked me.
15:05He said, Now, with the resources we currently have, the war is already lost. All we're doing is delaying the catastrophe.
15:21The reasons for the lack of optimism from Finger, and actually from many people on the ground in the Javari, who I've spoken to since the killing of Dom and Bruno, are of course extremely complex. The first and most obvious thing is the scale of the problem. Operation Wacky covered a huge and massively inaccessible area. And in that area were all of these dredgers, each doing huge environmental damage. But those hundreds of miles are just one fraction of one part of one region of a rainforest that is about the size of the continental United States. Then there's the social complexity of what's going on.
16:03In the absence of other job opportunities in the Amazon, what else would they do? Finally, and maybe scariest of all, is a relatively new thing. Something that, until recently, only existed in the shadows, in a few specific corners of the Amazon, but which now has established its roots throughout the entire region. something that acts as this overwhelming counterforce to any effort to protect the forest organized crime we always had crime in the Amazon Bolsonaro area in four years they enabled the scale up of crime in the Amazon at levels that were not imaginable before this is Sonia Brigi an investigative reporter from Brazil who specializes in the Amazon.
16:56Sonia is one of the people who has gone deepest into the shadowy forces behind Dom and Bruno's killings. Environmental crimes in Brazil have very low sentences and it's terribly profitable. So it's the perfect crime. During Operation Wacky, Finger told me that many of the barges they were exploding were worth at least one million pounds. The people working on board certainly didn't have that kind of money. So who was paying for them? The answer is multi-millionaire business people and even sometimes massive criminal organizations.
17:4270 or 80 % of the profit goes to the people who are providing the logistics. So the lion's share goes to the criminal underworld.
17:55This is Eliezo Marubu, an indigenous activist and criminal attorney, and also Beto Marubu's brother. He's the one who received the threatening letter shortly before Dom and Bruno disappeared, which ended with the words, you have been warned.
18:15You can launch an operation in the Javeri Valley and blow up like 50 mining barges and say, look how we're fighting organized crime. But the very next day, the criminals will just replace it with another vessel. This is true of gold mining, but it's equally true of pretty much any environmental crime in the Amazon, whether that's logging or illegal fishing and poaching. And whilst at first it seemed that the killing of Dom and Bruno was the rage-driven personal vendetta of a single man, Pelado, as the investigation deepened, some people began to suspect that it was actually much, much more complex than that.
18:59In fact, it appeared to be a perfect distillation of this much bigger and utterly terrifying story that is playing out in the Amazon.
19:16As we know, for a time, Pelado had tried to make an honest living as a fisherman. and, like most people in the area, struggled in poverty. But at some point, looking for work, he decided to move to one of the nearest towns called Benjamin Constant, a place just on the Brazilian side of the three-way border between Peru, Colombia and Brazil. And whilst he was there, we don't know exactly when, he met someone who would set his life on a new course, A man whose name seems to genuinely terrify people across the region. A man called Colombia, or at least that's how everyone knows him. Who is this Colombia guy, who to me is still, three years after the crime, a very mysterious figure?
20:08Exactly. Who is he? What was he doing? Where is he from? Is he Brazilian? Is he Peruvian? Is he Colombian? Nobody really knows. He has a house on the Brazilian side, another house on the Peruvian side. We still don't know if he's Brazilian, Peruvian or Colombian. He has three different identity documents from all three of those nationalities, featuring slightly different names, as well as a fourth which describes him as an indigenous citizen of Brazil. One police investigator told me he spoke Brazilian Portuguese with a thick Colombian accent. He has this murky past that nobody was able as yet to put a finger on where he was born, in which kind of environment, but he's probably the product of that region.
21:02He's a man of the Amazon, of deep West Amazonian part. I mean, you've spent several years investigating this now too. And you said, we don't know if he's Brazilian or Peruvian or Colombian. I don't know either. The only thing I do know about him really is that every time I go to that region, people are scared of him and nobody wants to talk about him. It scares people. Just being asked about him. What is known, or at least what's alleged, is that Colombia controls the illegal poaching industry for that whole area. Police sources believe that Colombia has operatives who supply him with illegal fish and river turtles from the Javari.
21:53And his organization then moves that cargo just across the border to the Colombian city of Leticia. So a boat docks in Leticia. And there are several frigorificos, how do you call that? It's fish factories. Like fish factories, yeah, like it would be Aventuara if it was meat. There are several fish factories and they buy fish. No questions asked. And there's one thing that is very important to understand. In Brazil, it's forbidden to fish pirarucu, for instance, at all. You have to have documents to sell pirarucu. On the other side, there's no law against it. So you cannot sell the illegal fish in Brazil, but you deliver them in Colombia very easily.
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22:44And the Brazilian police can't touch you? Can't touch you. The illegal fish is then said to move all across the continent.
22:58Some of it stays in the region, for consumption in the Three Borders area. But tons of it then leaves for Bogota, Lima and other cities. It's transported in airplanes, chartered ones, and doesn't face airport inspections. So we're talking big, big money, right? Police suspect, though have yet to prove, that Colombia isn't just in the business of poaching. One investigator described him to me as a mafia capo, who police have also investigated for involvement in money laundering and drug smuggling. He's usually surrounded by a crew of armed men. Personal bodyguards, you know, pistoleros, that would do his dirty work.
23:45including his henchman, a man with the menacing nickname The Crab, or Siri in Portuguese. At some point, Pelado develops a relationship with Colombia and wins his trust, and Pelado leaves Benjamin Constant and goes back to the stretch of river where he grew up. But now he has a new job, working as the local underboss for Colombia. Colombia allegedly supplied Pallada with boats including one that Sonia calls the mothership There's a big icebox in the middle of it It's not the kind of icebox that you put some beers to It's really huge It's like three metres by three metres It's deep And of course it has ice to preserve the fish while it's being loaded.
24:42They would leave this big boat, the mothership, at the entrance to the indigenous territory. And then the poachers would sneak in with smaller boats to bring back those huge Pilarocu. Pilaro would then take the mothership and all of its cargo to Colombia's floating compound in Benjamin Constant. Or technically, just over the border on the Peruvian side in a small town called Islandia. Sonia actually went to Colombia's compound to see it with her own eyes. I thought you were mad. I couldn't believe you'd done that. I would never do that. No, well, that was very well planned. We had... We were with armed guards, security, and it was all...
25:33It had all the characteristics of a criminal operation. And just in the middle, there was this huge box to accommodate dozens of tons of fish. It was surrounded by lots of big boats with big motors. So the kind of boats that run drugs and weapons and, you know, illegal things in the Amazon. There was this guy that later was identified as Ciri, nickname. He was the enforcer of Colombia. He was the guy that would hire gunmen, and some of those violent crimes he would commit them himself. And this guy was taking pictures of myself with his cell phone very close to my face to intimidate me. But the way they operate, they say, you don't come here, we will kill you.
26:43That was the message. You know, you don't mess with us. Now I know who you are. I have your picture here. That was the attitude. Soon after Sonia arrived, the Peruvian police turned up. They were ready for a gunfight. And, well, I identified myself as a journalist, and then they asked for my visa, journalist visa to be in there. And what called my attention was, of course, they had the police in their hands.
27:32It would appear from the size of the place, the amount of illegal cargo that must have been going through there, that Colombia was making a fortune. He was printing money, pretty much unchecked, until a Bruno-shaped spanner was thrown into the works. As we know, Bruno helped create Ervil, the indigenous monitoring team. He and his colleagues were seizing or torching extremely expensive poaching equipment on a regular basis. And all of a sudden, Colombia's flow is disrupted.
28:10If we're to believe Pellado's confession, he decided to kill Bruno in the heat of the moment. In a fit of rage, after Bruno drove past his village and said to Dom, look, there's the little poacher, take a picture of him. But as the police investigation advanced, this simple narrative began to fray in an extremely chilling way. Whilst Pelado undoubtedly did hate Bruno, police began to suspect that none of this was spontaneous. It was actually premeditated. Sonia says that witnesses have alleged that the murder was actually planned at a meeting at the house of another man called Gernio. Allegedly, another of Colombia's mid-level underbosses operating on the same stretch of river as Pelado.
28:58Witnesses said to the police that the murder was arranged in a meeting with several members of those communities, all involved with illegal fishing. And they agreed that they should kill Bruno. Investigators also believe that Colombia was involved in coordinating the way it went down. Colombia was part of a three-way communications, calls going back and forth on the day before the murder and on the day they were murdered. He was talking to Pelado. He was talking to Pelado. He was talking to Janio. Janio and Pelado were talking among themselves. So lots of calls at that moment. During the course of the investigation, more evidence emerged too.
29:49Evidence that suggests Colombia didn't only help plan the killings, but that he might have actually ordered them himself. Colombia provided the ammo for the crime. And Colombia said so himself when he was arrested without being aware that one policeman was in the room. the police put Pelado and Colombia in the same place, in the same cell. And Colombia said, you didn't tell them that I provided the ammo, did you? And what did Pelado say? And Pelado said, no, I didn't tell them.
30:42One other shocking thing has also emerged. Police now believe that cell phone evidence suggests that Maxiel's murder, the friend of Bruno, who was killed while riding his motorbike, may also have been ordered by Colombia. The way he was executed was a professional job. Since then, the gunman himself was killed. But one person, one witness, told the police, that the murder of Maxiel was decided in a meeting with Colombia. Colombia was arrested in 2023. The police investigation initially tried to look at who, if anybody, may have been working with him, including senior local and regional politicians.
31:39He's connected to donations to political campaigns. And he would visit mayors and, you know, state congressmen. And Sonia says that the officer leading the investigation into Colombia's political connections was removed from his job. He was sacked. He's not in charge anymore.
32:12Pre-trial proceedings have now begun for Palladu and Jefferson. They have expensive lawyers, lawyers people have been surprised they can afford, and they've changed their stories since their initial confessions. They're now preparing to argue that they acted not in anger, but in self-defence. That Bruno was making it impossible for them to earn enough money to feed their families. That Bruno was on a warpath. that he hated them and what they stood for, and that it was Bruno who was the aggressor. An argument that those who knew Bruno find preposterous. When Bolsonaro came into power, that was, that created a lot of hate in Brazil.
32:59Leo Sech, Bruno's close friend from home, again. Families got split apart. People fought with their best friends, with their cousins, their brothers. It was a disaster. But Bruno, he could still sit with his friends from school who were Bolsonaro people, and they would drink the whole afternoon laughing, you know, because he had this diplomatic side. Now, with the trial, the people who are defending Pelado and the criminals, They're trying to portrait Bruno as this hot-blooded, authoritarian person. It's all bullshit. Pelado and Jefferson's trial date has not yet been set. And when it does come, many fear that getting justice won't be as simple as just hearing the facts and deciding on innocence or guilt.
33:58Pre-trial proceedings have taken place in Tabachinga. where most of the economy runs through illegal activities. And although it hasn't been confirmed, it's possible that the trial will be held there too. So who are the jurors going to be? Illegal fishermen? Illegal loggers? Businessmen that profit from those illegal businesses? But the notion that something like that could get in the way of justice is, for many, almost unthinkable. The stakes are just too high. I mean how do you I guess you've seen pictures of them and you'll see them probably at some point in court how do you feel about them?
34:56do you feel
35:00well I try to not be angry and I I have no sense about revenge, anything. Any feelings about revenge or something like this. Well, I always speak this in Portuguese. I think it's important to the state to show that it's present, to generate some peace in the region, because a criminal system was disarticulated. Ale believes that what needs to happen is that there has to be a fair trial for those who are accused of committing these murders. she believes that there is an abundance of hard evidence that this was a premeditated murder involving not just those men who are out there on the river but probably other criminals and criminal networks that operate in the region and that a fair trial and a conviction is the only way of not completely dismantling those organizations because that will not happen, right?
36:24But at least slowing the advance of organized crime and sending a message that that kind of horrific violence cannot continue.
36:37A couple of weeks ago, on the third anniversary of the killings, the public prosecutor finally announced charges against the alleged mastermind, with Brazilian newspapers identifying that man as Colombia. Even so, it's unclear if or when Colombia will actually stand trial. And there are many people, including within the police, who are sceptical that day will ever come. One investigator told me, unfortunately, it would be flippant of me to say that justice will be done.
37:19The next time, on our final episode.
37:27The activists who today are working on the ground in the Javari, people like Tataku and Orlando, continue to face death threats as they go about their work. I N mess the department's Turner.
37:43The recording of Bruno's singing that was played at Bruno's funeral was recorded by the photographer Gary Calten. The songs played at Dom's funeral were Preta Detinha by the Novos Baianos, the record label is Warner Chapel Music, Lazy Eye by Silva leveraging Pickups, the record label is Danger Bird, and Good Times by Chic, the record label is Atlantic Records.
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