250: Some Serious Characters.. Ft. Trevor Wallace

28:57I feel like he did write in in hopes that his girlfriend is also listening to the show. You think so? He said like multiple times and then he's like, I fucked up. I'm so sorry. I'm fucked up. I know I'm going to catch heat. I fucked up. Baby, I love you. Happy anniversary. We do have some comments from OP. Ooh, please. So someone goes, you definitely messed up. This won't even be about excluding her from something, but how you were okay lying to her. The key to relationship is communication. My only suggestion for your current situation would be to man up, take full responsibility and apologize, then sit down and have an honest conversation with her about why you did what you did and what you plan to do to make sure communication is honest going forward.

29:35If you're lucky and work for it, you'll be able to build up trust again. Yeah. I feel like that's a very solid answer. Solid. Yeah. OP responds. Yeah. I know you are right. I make no excuses. I realize I screwed up. Every time I try to explain, I make it worse. I did apologize, but she doesn't want to hear it right now. I understand why she's mad, and I don't want to make any excuses for lying or hiding it. I should have stuck to my guns when the other guys insisted. Yeah, I don't think a woman wants to hear a man explaining why she's not a part of it. She knows why. There's no point in being like...

30:10Because you're pathetic, sore losers. Yeah. You don't want a girl doing better than you. That for sure. I also feel like maybe he couldn't have been maybe as true because like I think I'm not in any fantasy groups but from my friends who are in fantasy football groups like the group chat is like 90 % of it like how they're texting and just talking shit so he maybe felt some sort of way that like he couldn't talk as like reckless or something like okay okay so maybe he was like getting like side bullied by the other guys I don't really know I I would have I would need to see some receipts here but regardless he didn't do the right thing.

30:47I mean, just like she's going to know. It's so hard to hide that. We do have an update. Oh. A full official update. Did they break up? So the update is coming two months later. Update just came a couple days ago. Actually, like three days ago. Yeah. So update is coming two months later. So it's over. I know I screwed up. And the writing was on the wall. The worst part is I have no excuses. I know how badly I fucked this up. I'm not even looking for sympathy here When my girlfriend got back from the wedding, she asked me why I lied to her I didn't have an answer for her. All of my explanations just made it worse and I didn't really explain anything I tried to apologize, but she didn't want to hear it.

31:31It was the worst week of my life It was almost like she was freezing me out At one point she asked me if we ever talked about her in the group chat for our fantasy league You were on it I didn't even have to answer. She just said it's not nice, right? And I think that was the turning point. I never want to see her cry and the worst part is knowing I did this because I was stupid and didn't stand up to my friends. She said she doesn't think we are compatible and shouldn't date anymore. She didn't want to accept my apologies and I understand and I won't bother her now. She went to stay with her family for another week and now I've heard she came back because of her job, pharmacist.

32:12Oh, you really blew it. You blew it. And now she's staying with friends, but I will leave her alone. I'm looking for another place to live because our lease is up at the end of the month. She left two weeks ago and it feels empty. And the worst part is I know it's my fault. I barely care about watching football now. And normally I would be excited about it because my team's in first place. Men are so funny. He's trying to get sympathy out of this. Yeah, my team is in first place and I had Aaron Rodgers for 47 points. Chocolate doesn't even taste good anymore. Yeah. But that's why I say, I feel like he thinks that his ex, ex now, I think is a big fan of the show because he's saying, he's like, I can't even watch football anymore.

32:54Wink, wink. My apartment, I'm leaving it. He's saying so many details. I know. And this, this last line here, if you take anything away from my post, don't put your friends over the person you love. learn to stand up to your friends. I learned my lesson after all of this. Like, I hope you see this. And he just keeps like going back to his friends. It's like, I should have stood up to my friends. I shouldn't have let them bully me so hard. And it's like, I get it. You shouldn't have just lied. That's kind of the whole. Peer pressure is tough. But then you still were talking shit in the group chat.

33:29Right. Like, so you lied. And then you were talking about her in the group chat. What were you saying? Pull it up. What were you saying in that group chat? the receipts yeah i i think i i think uh yeah first first thing she's available now for the draft fellas find her and and keep her in your team okay um yeah i i think it's just about the lying and i think it's like it's not even about the fantasy football at that point it's just like what type of guy would i want to date who is a sore loser one and two would rather go with his friends than kind of like keep his partner happy yeah you know i i don't really feel bad for this guy no it's just funny i was like i can't even watch football anymore oh my god grow up grow up but like imagine him like going back to watching football with his friends and like somebody on his fantasy team is playing you're like turn it off this is too much for me to watch the ptsd literally oh my gosh i'm i'm kind of happy like it seems like football might be forever a little tainted for which she probably loves good every time you watch the vikings i want you to think of me?

34:37That's my team. Minnesota. Two plus two, yeah. Two plus two equals seven. I'm a Rams guy, so I would love to know what his roster was, too. I would love to know. I want to see his fantasy football team just so I can judge him as a person. I mean, he's number one in his league. That was also really funny. He's like, I can't even enjoy it. I'm number one right now. Okay, so if you were in last place, you would be enjoying it? I think it's just like... That's why guys are so funny. You are a weird breed. Very weird breed. He's trying to be sympathetic, but he's also like, I'm also number one. I'm number one against like$5 ,000 and I'm going to go to Cancun with it.

35:10But I'm like, I can't think about it. It is so goofy. Yeah. Would have loved to be a fly on the wall when he was trying to explain why she wasn't in it. Yeah. Babe, come on. You know, like you have your nails always done and like trying to trade and draft on your phone. It's just stressful. I don't want to put that pressure in. And you have new gels, right? Is that what they're called? Also, it's so funny where he's like, I couldn't come up with a good reason. Your reason was you guys are all insecure and don't like losing to a woman. Like, that's all it is. Like, you could have just said that.

35:39Like, my buddies are threatened by you, babe. Like, you were too good last year. Yeah, I mean. That's the honest truth. So why couldn't you just come up with that? Yeah. He's just an idiot. So is this next one, though. Real quick on the last story. I hope the ex, I hope she becomes, like, an NFL, like, analyst and is, like, commentating every game. So every time he watches, like, she's up there with, like, Tom Brady. And he's like, I could have had you. Also, can we talk about how much Tom Brady has come into his own as an announcer? Yeah. Like a lot of people were criticizing him year one. Tom's not that good.

36:12He's got to figure it out. Listening to him this year. Love him. He's great. I'm now a Tom Brady super fan. Oh, he's awesome. It's also so funny. Like underneath his name, it's like, I forget who is Kirk something. I think he was commentating with the other day. And then under Tom Brady is like seven times Super Bowl champ. You're like, what a casual flex. Hey, Tom Brady, seven times Super Bowl champ, by the way. Oh, yeah. Let's go ahead and comment on today's game. Seven-time champ? Seven? Shouldn't you, like, buy, like, a state and then, like, just live there? I think he, like, has a stake in the Raiders.

36:40Really? Yeah. He did get in trouble with some crypto stuff. Tom Brady? That wasn't good, Tom. Yeah. Doesn't he have enough money? But they, like, had to ban him from, like, the broadcaster meetings because he would go to the Raiders and he's, like, a very active, involved owner. Kind of like some insider trading fears. Oh. So they say. Allegedly. Allegedly. Interesting. But great announcer. Really explains it. Love him. Great announcer. Great time. That's next one. That's next one. Let's lock in. Story number three for us here. I found out that my 24 female boyfriend, 28 male of three years, told people that I was a crazy nut job who'd poison his dog and slit his tires.

37:23I'll keep this short. We ran into one of my boyfriend's buddies that he hadn't seen in a bit. They do little chit chat. and this guy asks, quote, so you finally left your crazy ex, found yourself a nice woman. By the way, did she end up smashing your car? I knew something was up later when we were alone, and so I probed until my boyfriend came clean. Apparently, he wanted to break up with me one year into the relationship, so he started telling people that I was a crazy nutjob. He told him that he was too scared to break up with me because I might slit his car tires or poison his dog to get back at him.

38:01He says he wanted to break up before, but that he got over it and now he loves me. Why did he tell people that? Well, I had an elective surgery, breast reduction, that he was against. I think most men are against breast reductions. Like if you ain't adding, then I'm subtracting. I'm getting out of here. Some people are butt guys. Butt guys? Butt guys. Ohio State? No, butt guys. Butt guys. Buckeyes. Buckeyes. I thought you were saying buckeyes. I have an accent. I could have swore I heard buckeyes. I was like, is that a term that I'm not missing? Buttocks. I don't discriminate. I'm for either. He thought it was crazy for me to consider such a surgery when everyone he knew was getting them larger.

38:45Obviously, no one ever talks about the pain and complications. Big chest bring on. So he was oblivious to it. He realized when I was in the hospital, though, that he loved me regardless of how small my boobs would end up being. Which is something you probably said. Oh, for 100%. And he got really worried for my health when I didn't call him at the designated post-op time. This whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth, and I don't know if I can trust him or be with someone who was considering ending it with me over surgery. I don't know if I'm overreacting or not. Please help. I think no guy will ever be in support of a breast reduction, which is a sad truth.

39:26My husband is so for it. He's sad. He says, you know, I'm sad. Yeah. But he's like, you know. Yeah. They're heavy. I'm going to strap some cantaloupes on you. Put some water. I'm just, yeah. Your generic male is not going to be like, hell yeah. They're going to be like, are you sure about that? How bad is the back pain? You just want to get some icy hot instead? I think like. It's ridiculous. I think the male brain just hears less of something they love. and they're like, why would you take that away from me? I'll hold them for you all day if you need. Yeah, I've literally been told like, God, that's a slap in God's face.

40:03I'm like, what? This is so dramatic. Yeah, it is very dramatic, I will say. But he's going to make it a big deal. I mean, it's also not his body, so he can't really be like, well, what do you mean that it gives you back pain? But the other things, so let me recap because I am one of these dumb males, as I say. No, you're doing great. Thank you. he was telling his friends like, I'm going to leave this girl, which was the same girl. And then when the friend comes up and was like, oh, you left your ex not knowing it was the same girl. Okay, good. I'm up to speed. Well, it sounds like he matured a little bit in the relationship, but was the breast reduction year one?

40:42He matured a little bit, but not that time. Yeah. It seems like it was about that time a year into the relationship. They've been together three years now. She's 24. So at the time she would have been 22. He's 28. He would have been 26. Most of his brain was developed at that time. Yeah. I think it just finished loading, honestly. It's not great. I'm sensing a theme today. Men ain't shit. I'll say it in an Abercrombie sweater. Men ain't shit. I would like to hear where you're coming at with this. Yeah. Yeah, I definitely think he's giving some really toxic, weird energy. I find it really strange that he was so cowardly, didn't like you, wasn't in you.

41:30After a year of a relationship and couldn't have a conversation, he'd be like, hey, I think we should break up. So he's trying to like slander your name to all these strangers. She'll poison my dog. She'll slash my tires. One, do you think I'm that type of person to do that? If you do, you don't think very highly of me and that's not a good sign. or two you're just a pathetic liar and how do i trust you going forward also poisoning someone's dog that's like something they're doing like the king arthur days that's deranged it's insane that's serial killer you have to be insane to think that somebody would even do that i know so it's like where are you getting this from where are you getting this from so honestly like this one feels worse than fantasy football and fantasy football they broke up over it Right.

42:13And so this one, I'm like, I don't know. And it's like, oh, I realized I could love you no matter how small your boobs were. Love me for me or go away. What happens if we decide to have kids and I put on 30 pounds? The average weight gain during pregnancy is like 34 pounds. You're going to love me then? He seems fickle. Yeah. Well, the baby. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's just I don't like, and I think we all know a guy. I like, I don't like when guys kind of like pawn off their own stress and like they use their, usually their girlfriend as like, not the physical punching bag, but like a punching bag where they're just almost like, there's no point where they need to be like, hey, how are things going?

42:56But dude, they're good. You know, we have our indifferences here and there, but we're working on it. Like that's as deep as you need to get in that. Instead of being like, she's crazy. I don't know if I like her. She'll poison my dog and slash my tires. Like there's issues that need to be at stake. You don't need to bring that to people. I just have so many people that I like I've heard talk about that it feels very college-y where it's very like they almost feel the need to like say that to like be cool or something but it's really not no it sounds like sad a little bit it really does there's there's one comment that OP does respond to so someone says this and they quote OP he realized when I was in the hospital though that he loved me regardless of how small my boobs would end up being and they end quote oh how generous of him.

43:39So here we have a guy who got so pissed at you for a breast reduction that he slandered you to all of his friends. Then he felt just guilty enough about it to magnanimously change his mind about dumping you, but never notified his friends that he'd lied. What a prize. Oh yeah. I think I'm missing the big obvious stuff here. I mean, it's going over my head today too. Don't, you're, you're good. OP, I'd pass hard on this relationship. The petty in me says to dump him and immediately assure him, quote, don't worry. Your tires will remain unslashed. They were nothing but supportive of my surgery. No beef with them.

44:20And OP responds, here's the thing though. He actually thought I was that crazy. At the time, he was really worried that I do something crazy. He reasoned that I was crazy enough to get surgery, crazy enough to not be disturbed and actually be interested in blood and internal organs, et cetera, crazy enough to enjoy murder mystery horror movies and actually laugh rather than be scared. So he didn't know what I was capable of, apparently. The more I put it in perspective and I picture this guy in the hospital being like, I love you. No matter if you go from a double D to a D, I will be here for you.

45:05What guys find to be like sentimental is really not. Like he probably was like, oh, just say it. Travis, go in there and tell her you'll love her. Okay. You can stitch her bras one cup size smaller. And maybe she can start doing squats and build that ass I've always wanted. Like he had to work himself through that and be like, this is my apology. Yeah. This is me, white flag, like, I'll still love you if you go a smaller cup size. I know. That shouldn't have even been in the question. That should just be like a, wait, you were worried about that? Guys that talk poorly about their relationships kind of just reflect on their own.

45:40Anytime someone talks poorly about someone else, I go like, well, I would want to hear their side because now I'm just only judging you. I know. I wanted to see that guy's face when his friend came up and was like, you ditched that crazy bitch. and he's like, uh, how do you not recognize her? Yeah. Does he never post her guys post? I was looking at my friend's Instagram last night and he posted in 2015 and 2020. I was like, what were you doing those five years? Were you in prison? Where you been? Where you been guys like don't post. That is weird. You know, it's like, that's also on him for not letting everyone know like, Hey, this is my girlfriend.

46:13This is my life. Yeah. I need to interview the friend. Yeah. It's suspicious. I can picture this type of guy though. Yeah. Well, we don't have an update. That's all we got. That one comment from OP. I feel like they're both in the same fantasy football group, though, as the last guy. I could see it. Both those guys, yeah. This post was nine years old, though. So, like, very vintage. Nine years old. So, we're definitely not getting an update now. Dang. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And I'll never find out what cup size she went to. Went to the archives for you. Thanks to Direct Caterpillar77, one of our faves.

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47:59Visit your local dealer or Chrysler.com to learn more and schedule a test drive today. Chrysler is a registered trademark of SCAUS LLC. see. Okay, this next one is coming from AITAH, another Am I the Asshole type subreddit, and it's titled, Am I the Asshole for Deleting My Girlfriend's Sims Save Files? Yes. Let's just start by saying that I, 24 male, love my girlfriend, Aaliyah, 20 female, very much. She's a super hardworking girl, and she spends a lot of her time on classes trying to get the highest grades possible for applying to nursing school in the near future. When she's not doing that, she's doing chores or cutting down on her ever-growing to-do list.

48:42And when she's not doing that, she's spending two hours a day playing The Sims. That's fine. This is where the problem comes in. After all of the stuff she does, Aaliyah doesn't have as much time to spend with me as she could. She's a perfectionist too, so when she's doing the more serious stuff like school, she puts in more effort than necessary, which is time consuming. It really got to me that even knowing this, she'll spend so much time on The Sims. It's something frivolous she's doing when we already only get so little time together. She's also an adult, so essentially playing digital dolls almost every day is kind of something she ought to grow out of by now.

49:27I decided to step in and have her cut back on this. I obviously didn't delete the whole game, but I figured deleting the little save files she was working on would deter her from spending so much time on it. That decision backfired tremendously. When she logged on to her game, she thought there was some glitch going on and kept restarting it until I explained to her that I had removed the saves. She absolutely flipped out on me, saying she'd been playing in that save file since like 2017, and I had ruined years of game progress. Sims isn't even a gold game. Question mark, question mark, question mark.

50:09I told her she was overreacting because she still has the game. That's a good one to go to. And she could just remake the same little characters if it mattered so much, but it doesn't need to, and maybe now she can focus on more adult interests, like loved ones. Basically, she left immediately, saying she was so stupid to leave her gaming laptop at my place, and now she won't answer my calls. I know that this is a total overreaction, but I started to feel a little bad once I realized it may not be as easy to redo her characters as I initially thought. So am I the asshole for deleting my girlfriend's Sims saves?

50:48Yes. Yeah. I mean, like so many, like, what is it? What does he mean? He wants her to do like more adults. Does you want her to like play on like TurboTax or something like here? Let's play. Let's play chess in the park. Deleting something is only going to make her want to play that more because she's going to want to try and get back to where she was, which you're like literally adding work to her plate. It's so demoralizing and just like, oh, I can't even explain the pain of like, you've already spent all this time and energy and effort to do something. And then if you have a glitch that accidentally erases it and you have to do it over again, it like, even if it's a for fun activity, it totally takes the joy out of it again.

51:26Cause you're like, I was already here. Yeah. I already, I already did all this. And you want to get back to where you were as a man who plays and listen, I'm a delusional man. I play college football, NCAA on Xbox. Okay. And I've built up a character, last name Wallace, 6 '3", jacked unit. I mean, he's like a 250-pound quarterback, just a unit, right? Okay, yeah. Fourth season, fourth year. He's probably going to go to the NFL, let's be honest. And I've spent days playing that. And I don't really play a lot of video games. Just throughout like the last year or two, I've spent just like days. Yeah.

51:55And if somebody deleted that, like, I would be sad because all that time spent. It's like building a sandcastle at the beach all day and some asshole just comes up and kicks it. You're like, well, I'm either sad and I'm not going to rebuild it, or I'm going to rebuild it and spend even more time doing it. Why shit in someone's Cheerios? You could have just said, hey, I really love some more quality time together without deleting her shit. You guys can play Sims together. Get into it. Learn what she likes and then help adapt to that. Get into it. Come on. Do you know what those Sims characters do?

52:27They get freaky if you click the right buttons. That's so crazy to me. That's where my head went immediately when you're talking about The Sims, because I only played it when I was young. when I was, I don't even know how old I was, probably in like sixth grade. Okay. And there was like one family computer and I would just be like, nobody's home. With the dial-up? Dial-up, oh yeah. And I mean like, dude, it'd be so funny. I'd move these two characters into their house. There'd be no roof. There'd be no kitchen. There'd be one room with like a heart-shaped bed and a shower and I'd be like, do it.

52:57Oh my God. Go to the shower, do it. Dirty. They wouldn't even have bath towels. Oh my God. But I mean, I was in like sixth grade And I didn't even know that you, it was like a loophole. I was like, you can do this? Yeah, like had just had the sex ed talk. Literally. I'm going to take advantage of this game. I was making my own birds and the bees. So circling back as a man who has built up this catalog in a video game, it's not your whole life and I doubt it's taking up as much time or also to this guy, it'd be more interesting. But I think that like if the Sims don't even speak English and they're beating you, they're sitting there going, boop, boop, boop.

53:30To your point, I would ask for more quality time. Yeah. But also there's, in free time, I either like to be dead alone or doing something with my girlfriend. But it's like, there is times where you're just like, I'm not working, I'm not doing this. And I just, I want to zone out and play video games. Yeah. The same way you'd watch a TV show or whatever. But I think you just didn't communicate. Like deleting files? Idiot. Absolute idiot. Top comment. Not only are you the asshole, that's some seriously controlling red flag behavior and unacceptable. What does it matter if she plays a game for a couple of hours a day?

54:06People aren't allowed leisure time. Who are you to control what they choose in their recreation time? If you want to spend more time with her, be an adult and tell her. And then Aaliyah finds the post. Oh. She finds it. Really? This is good. I like this. She goes, did you really think I wouldn't find this post? Did you really think I wouldn't see how you've been talking about me? I shudder to think what you've said in what you deleted. Why don't you tell them the real story? About how you not only deleted the save files, but also hammered the backup thumb drive so hard, there's a dent on your countertop now.

54:51While I cried for you to stop. This is like a digital Jerry Springer episode. Why didn't you tell them about how you tag along to my SI group after bio because you don't want me to be out of your sight? Why don't you tell them about how my best friend, who's so-called in love with me, literally lives in another state and only visits once or twice a year? Why don't you tell them about how when my mother was sick a few months ago, you were blowing up my line all day every day for attention, knowing that I was her primary caregiver 24-7? Why are you telling them you work full-time or that you manage a grocery store when you part-time manage the fast food place inside of it?

55:32I want you to fucking take this to heart when I say this, but I have been genuinely so much worse off for knowing you. You've destroyed my self-esteem with your constant criticisms of what I enjoy. You've controlled me in every way for as long as I've known you. You don't understand boundaries or when no means no. your racist fucking family treats me like dog shit and your friends are equally racist punk bitch assholes you ruined something i've spent years of my life growing up with and i could never bring myself to forgive you for that no matter how much love i've poured into you i hate you for what you did to me and for what you've been doing i mean that i'm gonna make this so so crystal clear since you didn't understand it the first time all caps we are through go fuck yourself i mean that was a banger and i love the receipts on that because first of all the second you said the fast food in the in the grocery store i go okay he's working at a mcdonald's inside of a walmart and that that guy is probably uh mc jealous of her fun that she's having on the Mick Sims.

56:46Yeah, I... He's a psychopath. Yes. He's a psychopath. Hammering a thumb drive. I don't even think that's where the game... Is that where the game is? I mean, you could probably plug that into your computer while you're playing and save both places. Oh, okay, that makes sense. But... Like a backup in case your computer got corrupted? This guy just seems like he just needs the attention. He's a controlling psychopath. Your mom is sick and you're taking care of her and he just won't stop calling you, won't stop calling you, checking in on you. he has to walk to SI group. I don't know what SI group is.

57:19Sports illustrated. That's what I thought actually though. I don't know actually. But that's, I don't know after bio. So it sounds like a college class to my SI group. I think if anybody writes into this forum and it's called, am I the asshole? It's kind of like smelted Delta thing. If you're asking, you're like, I mean, not all the time, but this guy, it feels like is looking for the validation. Even if one person in the comments is like, yeah, bro, fuck the Sims. You got this. He's like, see, he needed like some when people are in the wrong, they need one person to tell them they're not to feel validated.

57:51And I think, and that's kind of what's going on here. Something is weird. I mean, I just, I feel like some people though are so delusional. And if you're this level of like psychopath, I just don't even think, you know, you're like, just so like off your rocker. Like, I genuinely think he thinks he's the victim in all of this still. Yeah. Like, oh, I have a true crime podcast now too. and I just had like this case and it's like the worst case I've ever come across but this guy like laughed at his victims being called victims he's like victims and it's just like some people are just so deranged yeah that's what he's giving like he's crazy it's I mean it's it's like the Sims was the only thing he could blame it on because she's doing school work and then also work.

58:44And he's like, with any free time you should be spending with me. Why are you playing The Sims? I know. But it's not. It seems like every ounce of attention needs to be pointed at him. I know. Well, and it's crazy, too. Like, I just make a Big Mac and shut up, sir. Shut up. Seriously, shut up. Like he's 24. She's 20. Their age gap isn't super crazy. Like, usually you'll see this controlling dynamic from someone who's like 28 and the girlfriend's 20 because they go for younger girls that they can then control and like even though he's only 24 he's kind of following that pattern of like serious control manipulation insecure crazy jealousy like it's concerning for him like he really needs to work on himself college student playing sims is nothing out of the ordinary no he's acting like she was like 45 and would like get back from like Merrill Lynch and be like time to fire up the Sims it's just that's her out that's her release it's there's two different types of release I think in free time it's either being with people or not and that's her angle not we do get one more update from Aaliyah hi there Aaliyah here from the infamous post about my Sims 4 saves getting deleted I just want to put a little placeholder update on my page for anyone who's read the last post please note that I've turned off the ability to search my username in-app because although I did want people to hear the whole story at first, the social media response has been a bit overwhelming.

1:00:06I'm just a regular person and I didn't know this would get publicized to this extent, so please be kind. All that said, update missing info here. Our ages. For one, there was some confusion about when my ex and I got together. We knew each other all of our lives since our families are close, but we started dating when I was 12 and he was 16. Uh-uh. Icky. Nope. We actually have a five-year age gap. I'm newly 20 and he turns 25 this year. Hope it clears that up. I think it made things worse. It's so much worse. Because... 12 and 16, he can drive a car and you're... maybe you have your period? What?

1:00:47You don't even know long division yet. How does that work when he hits 18 and she's 13? Is that math right? Yeah. That wouldn't work in some states. Hopefully all of them. Ew! He's disgusting. He's a controlling man, and it sounds like he always has been. He was the guy doing burnouts in the high school parking lot when he was like 19. Yeah. It's a Camaro. Not great. I mean, the good part for her is that she's 20, and it's like, leave this man. You have so much more life ahead of you. I know. Unfortunately, so many people go through like that shitty relationship and they're like 18 to like 22, which sucks so bad.

1:01:29But then you go like, okay, this is what I don't want in life. This is what I don't like. Going forward, yeah, you're so much better for it. It's unfortunate, but you learn a lot from it. I know, you really do. She does go on to add, not only did he delete the saves and clear the recycling bin, he pulled out my backup drive and smashed it with a hammer. God damn. Once he realized that I was upset. It's acting like the Epstein files were on there. He lied about not knowing it was such a detailed game because I talked to him about it a ton of times before. this was not a matter of spending time together.

1:01:52We regularly spent hours of every day with each other. He would insist to come along to any class or class-related activity that he wouldn't get kicked out of, like bio study group. He just needs free education, it sounds like. I gave him as much attention as I possibly could, but it was never, ever enough. Summer is in just three weeks, so we would have had time then. He was just being awful to me. He is a generally jealous, overprotective, condescending person. He pressured me into sex activities throughout our relationship and his friends and family were all incredibly racist to me It's past time for him to be gone from my life and i'm still coming to terms with all the ways he has wrecked me Hasn't wrecked you girl Hasn't wrecked so much life to live you're 20 prime of your life and now you've got this experience and like You take it and you move on you learn Clearing up some other questions though She goes on to add my seven-year save existed across three laptops over time So those who were skeptical of it being able to survive on one for so long were right.

1:02:51I did have a password on my gaming laptop. He memorized it to get in. Jesus. He mentioned that I was dumb for leaving my laptop at his place. I said that he's done something similar before when I left my phone unattended. He went through it, promised never to again. Only for me to find out months later that he'd been logged into my Instagram account and was reading my messages daily. Some people wondered why I have no mention of him on my page. That's because I was always on edge of him going through my phone. so I deleted anything about him that I'd post. I tried to cover my tracks to avoid his anger.

1:03:21And then placeholder update. I was too anxious to retrieve the lost save files myself so I'm going to go to a local tech shop in a few days to see what the professionals can do and the laptop will remain off until then. I've looked into a restraining order recently and ultimately it looks like I won't be able to do much as of now but collect evidence and get cameras installed around my home. I don't go out in public anymore alone and I'm never without a trusted person. I appreciate all the people who have left me kind messages, sent me well wishes. I ask that no one offer me money. I won't accept it.

1:03:52Lastly, this is my lived experience, not just internet drama. So please be considerate. One last update we have. My saves are restored. God willing, won't he do it? I'm typing this on my way to class. But yes, for anyone still wondering, I got everything back. That's so great. That's awesome for her and also so funny for the guy because he like smashed hard drives. He memorized a gaming password. This guy's working like he's literally trying to like dox Epstein files. Like this guy's really going for it. This guy is a failed CIA agent in the making. I'm just like, you fucking loser. You're such a loser.

1:04:34Through and through. Such lengths. I'm so glad she got all the files back. Oh, so glad she got all the files back. She's out. She's moving on. She's going to get through school, become a nurse. I mean, this is posted May 2nd, 2024. You know, almost going to be two years soon. Give us an update, girl. Where are you at? That would be great. Give us an update. And where's he at? And what prison is it? So we can write into him. Oh, yeah, you know. I bet he's wishing he had a Sims game to play up in there. Little bitch. Get a friend, my guy. Get a friend. Get a friend. She's playing the Sims. Go on a walk.

1:05:10Read a book. Go to therapy. Go to therapy. Don't make your issues everyone else's problem. Yeah. Especially your girlfriend that you groomed, you fucking weirdo. He's only looking outward, not inward at the problems here. Yeah. Therapy. Therapy's good. I mean, dude, once you're smashing hard drives and all that, at what point do you get like, oh, maybe I need to work on this? I don't know. Even people that go to prison don't think they have problems. Kind of a ball. Just saying. Yeah, I'm really glad she got the Sims bag. Good for her. Good for her. Moving on to this next one. This episode is brought to you by Nintendo.

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1:07:56No, no, no. But are you overreacting? I mean, there's a lot more to be written, but yeah, I got my thoughts. Okay. Yep. Hi, everyone. I'm a full-time nanny for a stay-at-home mom with an eight-month-old baby. Stay-at-home mom. All right, we'll move on. The baby is honestly perfect, so sweet and happy. Nap's great. I've been with the family for about seven months now. The mom and dad are both amazing employers. They're super nice to me. The mom gets me Starbucks and acai bowls, even makes me lunch sometimes. I make$32 an hour with great benefits in my medium cost of living area. So overall, this is a dream job.

1:08:38Sounds like a cream job. I'll let you finish. Here's my only issue. I'm pretty sure the parents are having sex during the dad's lunch break. Maybe every day or every other day. It's a munch break. They go to their room, and I never see anything inappropriate. But sometimes I hear what I think might be the bed moving. It's not loud or anything, just enough to make me realize what's going on. Afterwards, her hair is messy, clothes changed, that kind of thing. Yeah, I mean, at least try to hide it. Try to have a car somewhere, you know, actually the good old days. But this is not starting to rate.

1:09:21Today, I asked the mom what she was up to when she came out of the room, and she didn't really say much. I kind of jokingly said, quote, oh, were you napping? And she got a little red and awkward. That pretty much confirmed it for me. I know they're married adults and it's their house, but it still makes me feel a little uncomfortable since I'm taking care of their baby. They're not being disrespectful or obvious, but it just feels weird. Would it be totally out of line to ask them not to do that while I'm working? Or am I overreacting and should I just let it go? They really are such a great family.

1:10:00And I don't want to make things awkward if this is just me being overly sensitive. What would you do? This is tricky because on one hand, it's disgusting and weird and violates everything HR. On the other hand, maybe they're trying to make another baby to keep employing her. oh don't hurt your income stream you know but obviously you can do that when uh maybe the uh they're not there when they're not nannying yeah um i think i think yeah they know what's going on i think that's probably like it's not great i can get how it feels a little uncomfortable you know it's one of those things where it's like we all know we all do it or whatever everyone does it but when you when when you could hear it now you're thinking about it yeah no i just don't want to hear it.

1:10:46So like, if I was going to give this nanny advice, I'd say, hey,$32 an hour is amazing. Like amazing. This woman is buying you coffee and acai bowls and making you lunch some days. You say it's a dream family. Not every nanny family is like this. Not every nanny family is this nice. Like, no. So what I would do is, hey, you know, their lunch is their time together as a couple, which is great. You need to prioritize intimacy and sex if that's a part of your relationship, do it. Put the baby in a buggy, a little stroller. And every day at lunch, you go take a little walk. That's your new routine.

1:11:24Get out of the house. Get out of the house. Let them do their thing. I also am coming from a really like sex and me are kind of desensitized. Like I did my doctoral thesis on like intimacy and addressing sex as a part of psychosocial needs in the acute care settings. Like in a hospital setting, that was like my my whole doctoral thesis basically because it's not addressed and it's so important what do you mean in a hospital setting so like when you are in acute care like oftentimes i worked on a neuro unit so that was like my thing it's like you have a stroke or you have you know a brain tumor this and that yes you're focused on healing and like therapy but also like sex is an ADL.

1:12:08It's an activity of daily living. So it's a big part of a lot of people's lives and even not sex, but intimacy, cuddling. How can we just cuddle and connect as a partner? Like still. So it's not talked about. Like I did a speech at like a stroke panel in Palm Springs and talked about sex and like different adaptations and equipment and this and that. And a couple of people came up to me after and they were like, I had a stroke five years ago or seven years ago, whatever it was. This is the first time someone's talking about this with me. And it's like, that should be talked about in the acute stage early on.

1:12:43Hey, yeah, you might have limitations, but you should still be prioritizing sex. But okay, this is a whole soapbox, but sex is important. It's an activity of daily living. And it sounds like this husband was also having a stroke upstairs, but I think the biggest, I was, I was really not trying to be inappropriate doing that. That's very fascinating stuff. It's crazy. There's so many cool devices. Okay. This is just my niche. It's just bizarre because it's like, you know, it's not right, but do you bring it up? It's like, do you live with that? Does that money now become dirty money? Because you're like, yeah, I'm getting paid well and I'm getting crust cut off my sandwiches, but I have to listen to that.

1:13:20I guess it's personal preference. What is she really listening to? Like, there's no mention of moaning. She's maybe hearing a bad move. Yeah, that's a good point. If you don't have any like confirmation or they're not being like flirty in front of you, it's a little better. It is a little, I think it just comes down to personal preference. If you can like at least say like this could be what's happening up there and I'm not okay with it, then we find a new family. Or if it is like, honestly, it's a pretty good gig. Sure, they move the couch around a lot upstairs. I guess it's just personal preference if you're okay with that or not.

1:13:56Put headphones on. Get some noise-canceling headphones. Talk it up as a work expense. Invite a guy over. I'm just kidding. Oh, now you're getting fireable offenses. Yeah. Fire with fire. Yeah, I feel like it's just, it's pounding. I mean, yeah, it's just interesting because you're in there like at home. It is. I will say like, I'm obviously a little more desensitized to this. Is it uncomfortable? You're maybe directly beneath them in the living room and you're hearing a bad move. Yeah. If it feels like something you need to get off your chest and just say, hey, it's, you know, making me uncomfortable.

1:14:31Like, yeah, they could probably find another time, realistically. But at the end of the day, like, you have to kind of determine, is it worth me potentially losing my job and this really good gig? That's what I think it comes down to personal. And that's, you got to be true to yourself. I also think there could be a way. I hope this isn't manipulative. But you could say, hey, while you guys were up there, little Timmy, blame it on the kid. Little Timmy was wondering, what was going on up there? And I like walked up the stairs and I heard something like, I just don't know what I should tell your son.

1:15:05You know, you're the middleman. Is that too weird? If you're like, hey, he was asking what was going on, but I didn't know what to say. I like heard some noises and I'm sure you guys weren't doing that. You know what I mean? You guys weren't. Right. You guys weren't. Right. I don't know. It is a weird thing because then it's like, is that only you can see how much further it gets? Because then like maybe the guy, the husband's like, she never hears it. Maybe we can do this more or like, ah, the door's closed, whatever. Who cares? Like, you know, it's a weird in-between. I know. It's very unique because it sounds like both of them were working from home or the guy would come home on his lunch break.

1:15:44He would come home for lunch. And then like it's so crazy because like in any other job, obviously this wouldn't be acceptable. Like if your boss was having sex in their office on lunch break, it'd be like, oh, yeah, no, get HR involved. So if you look at it from this way, like. it's weird because the office is attached to the house meaning it's just the house it's like well we're upstairs yeah it'd be like if you had a different room like if your office building was downstairs and your apartment was at the top floor except the difference is one floor yeah blurs the lines i know it's tough some people were saying that they should sue oh for like sexual harassment yo and then everyone else in the comments was like no this is horrible advice do not sue them.

1:16:28What are you doing? So I don't know if there's any lawyers that want to chime in. Like, is this wrongful termination? It doesn't, there's no mention of a contract. There's no mention of like anything like that. One of the top comments, oh girl, laughing my ass off at$32 an hour. I would just put on headphones while baby naps and mind my business. Personally, I would let it go. Maybe that's the reason you're paid so well in the first place. let mama lay it down on him so you can make$64 an hour but I think if you yeah that's interesting I think it just comes down to personal morals the same way that somebody just put headphones on like oh whatever and then they come back down in 10 minutes who gives a shit but if that is something where you're like this is it can meow and it's too weird for me that's a boundary for you there's definitely families where both parents are at work yeah they're not working from home yeah and so I guess it is and that's a that's a really good point because I have to realize like not everyone is as just like can brush it off.

1:17:24And I would definitely, I'd be, I would be uncomfortable, but I would find a solution that doesn't involve telling them. And I also think it was weird that she kind of shamed her. Like, oh, were you napping? Yeah. Cause then it's only going to get like, it's going to lead to a level where you're going to be more direct with the, oh, wow. You guys must've been stressed. You look pretty calm or like, that's so inappropriate. you're at the end of the day an employee. They can fire you at will. So if it's a boundary for you, then yeah, give them notice and find a different family. But like, don't be unprofessional.

1:17:59We do have a couple more comments from OP. Please. Someone goes, you are overreacting. I don't think you should make comments to them about what they are doing behind closed doors. I personally feel you should not ask them to not do that. You're overstepping and making it an issue. You said they aren't loud nor making it obvious. Adults do adult things. OP goes, but I'm working. You don't think it's disrespectful to fuck while someone's taking care of your kids under your roof? It's making me uncomfortable. They both go in the bedroom and come out hair messy and smiley. It makes me feel weird.

1:18:33Someone goes, I mean, good for them. Many parents end up hating each other during the baby years. These guys are lucky. They can afford a nanny and maintain a healthy sex life. They treat you well. You can't actually hear anything. So I would not be making things awkward. OP goes, it's very awkward. They both come down smiley and happy and in a good mood. Like, guys, I know what you just did. You just had sex. Yeah. Someone goes, then quit. Damn. OP responds, this is a super good paying job. The parents are beyond nice. This is the only flaw. Well, I wonder why they're so nice. I still think maybe I should mention it and maybe they'll stop fucking during my work day.

1:19:14They won't. Because then I think if they mention it, they'll probably just fire her. it's it's it's really a unique awkward situation because then if you wear headphones and you come down and like you were never wearing headphones throughout the day and then you have headphones in well maybe that might give them a clue because if you're not wearing headphones then they come down you have headphones on you're like oh hey guys yeah i just then that might be like oh your headphones on oh did you hear it maybe um we do get context that op is 28 years old because i my first thought was like, how old are they?

1:19:47Like, is this an 18 year old nanny, 20 year old nanny, like 28? I'm like, okay, they've been a nanny for a decade, but we do get an update. That Friday morning, I told my nanny mom that I wanted to talk during the baby's nap. And she said, okay, I brought up how uncomfortable I felt about what I thought was going on and mentioned how I could sometimes hear or notice things that made me think they were having sex while I was there. I told her it made me uncomfortable and that's when everything went downhill. Yep. She was very direct with me. She said my only job was to take care of the baby, not to worry about what she and her husband were doing.

1:20:26Damn. She told me if I had downtime, I could watch TV or read a book. I told her it just seemed weird that she'd come out with messy hair or different clothes. And she explained that sometimes they do workout videos in their room. Sometimes it's sex. P90X. Sometimes. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. She threw that in there? She's like, yeah, sometimes we're watching some P90X, some old 70s workout videos. Sometimes we're getting clapped. Sometimes it's sex. Sometimes it's cuddling. And sometimes they're just napping. She said whatever happens in her bedroom is none of my business. After that, things got really quiet.

1:21:02She wasn't mean, but I could tell she was uncomfortable and hurt. Then she told me I could go home for the day. And I just knew that meant I was done. Later, she texted saying that they were going to move in another direction, and that was it. I feel horrible. I know I crossed a boundary, and I regret bringing it up so much. I miss them terribly. The money was amazing. My nanny mom was so kind, and their baby was absolutely perfect. I really wish I could fix this and somehow get my job back. How do I get my job back? Buy them lube. I really don't think this is a lesson learned and you move on well yeah you're not getting rehired it's a lesson learned but also I think how she would have continued to work there and not brought it up she would have just still felt this weird emotion because it felt like this family wouldn't have stopped doing that damned if you do, damned if you don't type thing because if she stayed there she'd be like god I should quit this is getting weird but she left and she's like why did I leave it wasn't that weird yeah I think for this person's brain and like way of thinking and comfortability I do think the confrontation needed to happen.

1:22:10And now it's like hindsight's always 20-20. Like you would have left and then regretted it and been like, well, if I would have just talked to them, maybe they would have stopped. She got the clarity she was looking for. Like, are you guys doing this? She's like, yeah, you know, sometimes we're doing a hit class upstairs or sometimes he's hitting, you know, it's just really, it is a bizarre, awkward thing to deal with, which I'm surprised that nobody else in that nanny support was like, yeah, this happens sometimes. It's bizarre. Here's what I do. I know. Not many comments I see on the original post.

1:22:40I mean, someone does like after the update, go back and comment. And it's just like, you were way out of line confronting because you suspect the married adults may have taken advantage of what they expected to be private time to do private things. Really OP? The kid is napping. Instead of taking a break or focusing on cleaning or preparing for other activities, you were being creepy, eavesdropping, listening for bed cracks, generated an offense that they might have, probably did enjoy a private, intimate, mutual activity in the most private space in their home, you're the problem. The whole problem.

1:23:12Damn. But, you know, I feel like I'm going to push back here. If I'm that nanny and I'm, like, trying to read a book and you hear, like, stuff moving upstairs, like, that's all my head's going to be thinking about. Like, you can not address it, but, like, there is that thought in the back of your head that you're like, the curiosity. You're just like, what is happening? Yeah, you can't like. It's hard to focus. Yeah, and it's like, it's going on around me. Like, it is. Like, I don't know. I can't tune it out. You're like, oh, I'm putting headphones in so I don't hear them having sex. It's not like I'm putting headphones in because I want to listen to this song or this podcast.

1:23:44It's like, there is an underlying tone that, like, needs to be addressed somehow or some way. But I don't think, it just probably felt very confrontational to be like, hey, can we talk, this and that? Yeah, no. If someone's confronting me like this in my home, you're done. Yeah. You're done. But then again, like, how do you bring it up? nonchalantly. I don't know. You don't. I guess it's also not your house. I don't know. It's hard. And like so many people are like, girl, in this economy, do what you want in that room. Just pay me, LOL. Like so many people are coming from a place of like, you're getting paid$32 an hour.

1:24:15Like just find something else to do with your time. Like again, I don't even care if the baby's napping, but the baby in the stroller, it can nap. Here's what you do. You look at the other job listings for a nanny and you go, okay, this one pays 20 an hour. I probably don't want to hear sex or 32 an hour and I might have to hear some uncomfortable stuff for about four to eight minutes. It's not long. That is interesting though. We do get one last kind of brief update. They did text the nanny mom trying to get their job back. Nanny mom responded that she forgives me and that she hopes I take this as a learning experience, but they won't hire me back.

1:24:50I miss her so much. She said she talked to her husband about everything and they decided to give me a months pay until I find a new job it ends up being fifty two hundred dollars yeah like she really blew a great gig like what is that math on the year mom you're really quick with the sexual puns you know there's just a lot in this one yeah 65k yeah I think for what this nanny does is she just Googles every private school in the area and just hangs out up front. Hey, do you need more time for you and your husband to be intimate? I charge$32 an hour for you guys to do whatever the hell you want upstairs.

1:25:34I want to ask questions. Yeah, I'll bring the AirPods, the Pros. They cancel out the sound. Sony, baby. Yeah. OP does go on to say, to be honest, maybe a part of the problem was that I was a little jealous of her. Oh, interesting. She's a stay-at-home mom, beautiful, only 28, rich, has this gorgeous home, and her and her husband are truly happy. The mom was 28? Mm-hmm. Oh, well, yeah. Wasn't the babysitter also 28? Mm-hmm. That's where the jealousy was. She's such a good mom, and it just felt like she had this perfect life, her dream life, and I'm the same age. And I think that made me feel small in ways that I didn't even realize at the time.

1:26:13I hate admitting that, but it's true. Damn. Now I just feel so lost. I miss them so much. I keep wishing I could go back and do things differently. I know I can't, but I still hope one day I can find a family even half as good as them. I don't know if I should try reaching out again down the road or just accept that it's over and move on. Part of me wants to hold on to hope, but part of me knows that I need to respect their decision. Any advice on what I can do to maybe get them back or should I just leave it and start fresh? I'm really debating. It sounds like she was really close with the mom because of the same age.

1:26:45It sounded like just like a friend. I was like, I think they can still be friends. Just be friends with her. She's like a permanent third wheel. Like, they could all go out to dinner and just not talk. Because not at once did she mention she misses, like, well, maybe she does. I don't know. She doesn't mention, like, she misses the child. She's like, I miss the mom. I miss the mom. I think her and the mom, because they'll be the same friends. You guys could all go out to eat together. She does say I miss my nanny baby so much. I'm kind of paraphrasing a little bit. I can't believe I won't be going back.

1:27:12It breaks my heart because they were such a big part of my life. It sucks. It's a tough, tough lesson to learn. But given all that, like, I guess for me, like, I always make decisions kind of like that risk analysis. Why didn't you consider all this that you might get fired? Like, if you love them so much, didn't you kind of have it in your head? It was probably, like, impulsive when she was deciding to have the conversation. Yeah. Probably, like, just happened. I was like, hey, did you and your husband just— But then again, I've also been on her side where it's like there's something just on my mind, on my mind, on my mind.

1:27:46And it's like, I'm one sentence away from letting that out, you know, or like one more scenario. It's like, she was probably thinking about it. And then like that Friday or whatever day it was, the husband and wife go up there and you're like, I just got to say something. Or she like, um, over evaluated like their closeness. Like she thought they were like a lot closer than they actually were. And like the boundaries and lines kind of got blurred for her. Almost like to your example, you said earlier, you're like mother-in-laws like, Hey, I'm a part of the family it's weird you guys do that and then they're like yeah you're an employee yeah no and that's like a good i think like i'm thinking about that too with the holidays coming up it's like there have been stories where like in-laws are like no sex under our roof and it's like well if we're here for two weeks we gotta go to red roof in or something come on yeah i remember um when i was younger my sister brought her first boyfriend home from like college or like right out of college or something and like he had to sleep and like it was very like my parents like very uh cookie cutter clean.

1:28:47I forget his name because this was a couple acts ago. You sleep on the couch and my sister, you're in your room. It just makes the dynamic weird. It almost probably makes people want to do the opposite. Yeah. My mom was the same way. I snuck downstairs on that couch. Yeah, there you go. It just, I mean, if people are going to have sex, they're going to find a way. If there's a will, there's a way. It's just interesting and it doesn't make it right by any means but I guess it is something to take into account. If you are being a nanny, you are freeing up the parents' time so parents can do work, but it also frees up time for what they don't have because the second you leave, the kid's like, Mama, Dada, I want to hang out.

1:29:26And they're like, we just finished work. Yeah. We got to go move a couch upstairs. I don't know. I know. It's not great, but yeah, I just want to tell anybody that like it's good money because if it doesn't align with you, then it doesn't align with you. Exactly. Whatever, whatever, you know, you can live with. That's a tricky one, though. It is really tricky. And when you think about it in that way where it's like in a traditional job setting, boss could not have sex in their office during lunch break. So if you do look at it that way, you're like, it's not necessarily right. But it was just bizarre because like, let's say they were on a like a like a townhouse where there's three stories and kids on the bottom and on the top and you don't hear anything.

1:30:10then you don't have it's only because there was the thought that was heard a little bit I know but then like a lot of people were like why are you listening so intently like why are you trying to hear them and catch them I think it's almost like it's just like curiosity I know it's like in every scary movie you hear a leaf outside and like we gotta see what it is oh my god you hear like one like you know spring in the matches and you're like hold on it also sucks if the husband's hot too I mean she kind of came clean with it at the end she's like I'm jealous she's got the life I want And so maybe that was the real issue, which is a little creepy.

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1:32:37And see you next week. But this one. But if you're long for the ride, strap in. So this is coming from off my chest, eight days old, titled, I caught my boyfriend's... It's literally off the chest. I caught my boyfriend's stepmom breastfeeding her eight-year-old. Okay, hold on. Let's work this backwards. Your boyfriend's stepmom breastfeeding an eight-year-old. Mm-hmm. This happened a week ago and it is still making me sick. At our joint family Thanksgiving, we do this to save time, knock it out in one day, I was sitting with my boyfriend, his dad, my dad, his stepmom, and her eight-year-old daughter.

1:33:13The daughter starts to complain to her mom that she's hungry, so I offered to take her to the kitchen to make her a plate since I was going in there anyways to refill my drink. The daughter started yelling and said, no, I want mommies. So I thought that she meant the dish that her mom brought. So I said, Lila, not her real name, we can go get something on a plate and then bring it back here so you can eat it with your mommy. She's very attached to her mom. Then the stepmom sighs and then takes her into the guest room, which I assume is to correct her behavior for yelling. My mom used to do that.

1:33:48Yeah. I get a plate of the casserole her mom brought and go to take it into the guest room where the stepmom and daughter are. And I knock. The stepmom said, come in. So I did and saw her fully breastfeeding her daughter like she was a baby Come in, uh, no Like holding her in her lap and saying things like good good. Is it yummy? Oh I out loud go what the fuck true And so my boyfriend comes over and has the same reaction I just shut the door Try not to be sick because there's no way that the stepmom is lactating She even told us before that she couldn't breastfeed when she had her other daughter, so this whole thing just makes me sick.

1:34:31I always noticed that she babied the 8-year-old, but never thought that she would go this far. My boyfriend and I immediately said that we're cutting the night short and politely asked everyone to leave. So everyone leaves, and the stepmom pulls me aside before she leaves with my boyfriend's dad and other daughter and said, You have no right to judge me. She was hungry. Thinking about this still makes me nauseous. my boyfriend was equally disgusted and decided to go low contact with them after this incident he made the call that they are not allowed back in our home i'm literally shaking as i write this because it is so disturbing and gross has nobody heard of whey protein has nobody heard of like oh you're hungry let me whip up a protein shake real quick well like i first thing i googled is quote how old should you stop breastfeeding your child yeah um i think when they can start asking mama milky you're done let's say you know my name get off if they're coming up to running up to being like boobie no yeah no i'm hungry it's like such a full sentence of like okay well let's get let's get some moths for you yeah no applesauce i don't know like google says when it feels right so it's up to each parent obviously often between 12 months and three years okay so So they're way out of the range.

1:35:49Kids are talking at three. They're like really talking. Kids are potty trained at three. Are you in a grade at eighth grade? What are you in? First? Second? At three? Eight. Oh, eight? Second grade? Yeah, that's crazy. Right? Kindergarten, you're like five. First grade, you're six, seven. How do you even pack a lunch? Just peanut butter and jelly and breast milk? It feels disgusting. To me, I'm sorry. It feels fucking disgusting. eight years old no no no it feels like that yeah that's because when when would that stop when when would the kid be like hey actually this is weird it feels a little bit like um and we're we're getting into dangerous territories right now but it feels a little bit like that that munchausen syndrome where they're like yes you need me you need me to give you nutrients yeah i need a microwave you're you're on it okay okay because i didn't want to stop pointing fingers and saying like, but that feels like the mom is using them to, and how defensive she got to be like, my daughter needed me.

1:36:52You don't, you can't judge this. Well, you know, we can't, but the internet can. You're insane. Well, and it's hard because like OP added the line, like, I don't think she's lactating, but yet the mom was like, it's just has like a gogret next to her nipple. I don't, yeah, I don't know. But the mom was like, she was hungry, which it's like, oh she was hungry so you fed her so it makes me think she is lactating right so it's like they're maybe like maybe this writer doesn't really understand or maybe there's been something said in the past but like it's kind of confusing because it's like is she genuinely breastfeeding or is this like going down a really actually dark dark line and kind of getting into like essay like child abuse yeah i would really hope she's breastfeeding or else what is otherwise call cps you call cps call 9-1-1 call animal control call everybody get somebody get get somebody on the horn it's bad like this is why i was so scared i was like i don't know if i should read this one i what what are the comments saying and and you know i'm thinking very much here in the the the reality of how bizarre it is but listen there's thousands of jokes i mean you don't have to hold an eight-year-old's tall enough to just walk up and be like put it in.

1:38:07I know. You don't have to cradle that thing. She threw a tantrum to get the tit. I've been there before. I know toddlers do it, but like eight? Eight? If she can write in cursive, she shouldn't be breastfeeding. If you know your own name, you're done. What's your name? Trevor. Goodbye. Or put it in a bottle and be like, oh wow, it's vanilla whey protein extract. And the fact that they even said, yeah, come in. Like she was doing something normal. I know. I think this lady's a little deranged, and I don't think the kid, the eight-year-old, knows how bizarre it is. No, top comment. You know what?

1:38:44This post is a nice reminder to stop procrastinating when I have things to do. If I hadn't procrastinated, then I likely wouldn't have seen this. Someone goes, right, time to do my laundry. Totally get that feeling. Some posts are wild enough to snap you right back to your to-do list. Well, that is enough of Reddit today. I'm logging off. a lot of people that do leave like actual comments about the post, they say her daughter is so fucking stunted. Oh my God. She should be judged for this shit. An eight-year-old should not be breastfeeding. Okay. I'm glad the internet is taking that stance instead of being like, well, some people age differently.

1:39:21There are people that share similar experiences in the comments too. Someone goes, so actually my mother-in-law was a part of a La Leche league and my hubby's ex-wife breastfed their child until he was six. La leche league. I don't know. We're Googling. Spanish? Leche is milk. Yeah. It helps breastfeeding mothers and parents worldwide with support, education, and encouragement. Huh. So maybe some leagues, they encourage you to breastfeed as long as you can. I'm not sure. That's just kind of what I'm gathering from other posts. But... Eight is unreal. That is far too long for someone that does not have a child.

1:40:01So take that with a grain of salt. But I mean, God, those poor nipples must be eight years of that. From what I've heard, it does not feel good. It is a bite down for eight years. I saw a post somewhere recently that this woman got her nipple bit off from her kid breastfeeding. God damn, they must have been hungry. Took a chunk. Yikes. Yeah. Well, I'm glad the internet was on our side on this. Because it's always weird when you read something in that vein. And you're like, God. It's like sometimes I'll read Instagram or I'll watch a video on Instagram. I'll be like, God, this person is such an idiot loser.

1:40:35And the comments are like, you are love. And I'm like, wait, am I the bad guy? Yeah, I think that a lot. Somebody validate me. I know. I think that a lot. I'm just sitting here. I'm a little stunned. I'm a little shell-shocked. But I know I did this to us. So sorry, everyone. But you did give a nice warning beforehand. Like, hey, this is a wild ride. I tried. this is like the end scene credits. I know. Roll the credits. I know. If you want something a little, maybe more chipper and just, you know, funny, no trauma, go check out Trevor's podcast. Hey, where can they find you? Uh, my podcast is called stiff socks.

1:41:10We have an episode on here years ago, uh, with Michael and I, and then I'm just on tour. I'm all over the world right now. I'm doing like 30 more shows and, Yeah. And then I'm filming a special in Phoenix in March. So very fun. Excited stuff. Trevor wallace.com for tickets. Um, And then I'm always just posting sketches and funny stuff across all my specials. Phoenix is going to be on Real City to do your special. It's great. It's one of my favorite, if not my favorite comedy towns. They get rowdy. They get rowdy. Phoenix gets rowdy. They're close. They know all the references. They're down and party, and they're great.

1:41:41So if you're in Phoenix, you want to snag some tickets if there's any left. Yeah, tickets will be on sale tomorrow, and this is already going to be out. So check the website at TrevorWalls.com because I think we're going to add some shows for that. There we go. All of Trevor's links will be in the description. Super easy to find. Check out his podcast. Check out everything, especially those live shows. Thank you for being here. Thank you for having me back. Always so fun. Open invite anytime. Yeah. Makes me feel better about the world. Reading some of these stories. Do you feel better about like your guy-ness too?

1:42:13You're like, I'm a good guy. Because a lot of that felt like very young and immature. Like the guys who are writing it were being written in about like how they're mature and how they handle stuff. and I go, I would never handle something like that. And I go, oh, that's good. Yeah. Because I get 21-year-old version. It's a good sign. Yeah, 21-year-old version of me. Yeah, I don't want her in my fantasy league. And now I'm like, well, you shouldn't have lied. That's growth. Development, yeah. Development. If you were an immature guy and you heard this, do you think it would get the wheels turning or do you think they'd get defensive?

1:42:41Do you think they might not be ready yet? How do you think an immature guy would respond to the stories today? Would they feel attacked? I don't think they would feel attacked. I think they would see where they could have coached that guy and they wish that guy could have been their friend so they could have told them like, hey, maybe don't approach it like this. Don't approach it like that. Okay, I like that. Some sideline coaching. You know, we want to create a safe space. Don't want anyone to feel tired. We do. And you know, it sounds like a lot of the guys were like, not all of them, but they were like younger 20s and that's like, it's not a guy's best years.

1:43:09Everybody goes, that's the peak years. You're dumb. You're a dumb guy. Wait till you're 26, you're paying taxes and you don't have your family insurance plan anymore. That's when you become a man. That hurt. that hurt you know what and for the last thing I'll say on here if you're a dude go play some sims and realize how fun it can be yeah and just you forget about the pain in life go play the sims yeah get some hobbies get a hobby play a game that's all she wrote thank you guys and until next time bye thank you for having me

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