252: Not Nice! Ft. Charlie Berens

30:16won't let her go oh yeah are you kidding me yeah the next comment is literally in response and it's just red flag red flag emoji yeah yeah yeah yeah that is um do i have to do that too if you want to feel included yeah i do yeah that's that's where i put it because also like he can't he can't let you do anything especially if you're taking care of the kids that's a huge pain in the ass taking care of three kids. Oh, yeah. You're really outnumbered on that one. Yeah. Yeah. They're Canadian. They're not even American. They're Canadian. Bummer. Well, that means he's doing international flights also.

30:59Oh, unless he's like seeing Canadian football, which don't really count. You know, Canadian Football League CFL. Yeah. Are you a CFL fan? I didn't mean to insult you. No. Okay. Yeah. I feel like that. Yeah. Right. That's the red flag of like saying he's not going to let me, you know, like it's 50-50 decision. It's giving very controlling. And you got. It took a turn I didn't see coming. When you have three kids, you just mom and dad both explain their side to the kids. And then you got three. They make their decision. That's your Supreme Court. A jury. A jury. Jury decision. Yeah. That's a better analogy there.

31:40Yeah, I think this is tough. I mean, OP keeps going in the comments like, I don't really want a divorce. I like my life. I just want to take a trip alone. He's not awful. He definitely is controlling, but he's not awful. He does a lot for me and shows his love in other ways. Did someone say how? I think someone's like divorce his ass. Ah, yeah. OP does have an edit for us. we are married and have been for over a decade i've been raising children i've never taken any time for myself not even two days ever he does not want me to go without him and is basically insinuating that our marriage will end or somehow be severely damaged if i go without him we have gone on family vacations to disneyland his favorite place that i don't really like that's Hang on.

32:32Just one second. It's a red flag right there. But we still save up and go there every year to the same place and same vacation. My husband would rather go to Disney again than Italy, and it's too much money that he won't let me go by myself. It would basically be our yearly family vacation allowance, and I'd be spending it all on myself. I just want to see all of the art I love without someone cutting it down in front of everyone and embarrassing me. He can't keep his opinions to himself. yeah so I'm getting the sense that this guy has like uh you know works at like selling I don't know whole life insurance or something like that and uh you know he's spending all the like but that's not fair because he's spending all the money on season tickets now if it's CFL that's not a lot of money probably but um oh yep here comes the fact check how much is it Okay, now I like the one in the first story.

33:31Oh, there. God, it must be nice in Canada as a CFL fan. Average tickets, 25 to 40 bucks for cheap seats. All right. So yeah, that would have been a good argument there that could have gone there. But yeah, it's, I don't know. It's an expensive trip. You do feel bad taking your kids away from Disney. But I mean, they've been there. They've been there, don't they? You don't need to go to Disney every year. You're fine. Yeah. You're fine. Give your kids some grit. Have them start working. Get them out there. And then they can help pay for it. They're in Canada. Shovel some snow, guys. Yeah. You can work for your next Disney trip.

34:08Yeah, I feel like she should get to do it. Also, the fact that Disney is his favorite place. God. Is that a red flag for you? Oh, my. Have you been to Disney? Mm-hmm. Oh, are you a Disney adult? I like Disney. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'd say I'm probably, yeah. I like it, too. No, you don't. I love paying$50 for parking. Welcome to the happiest place on earth. That's getting crazy. How about a coupon? That would make me feel like this is a little bit happy. So expensive. It's too expensive. And then another thing, you got to give your fingerprint. What? I went there and they had a fingerprint thing.

34:44That's new. That's creepy. When was the last time you went? I don't know. Eight months ago. I wonder why there was this fingerprint thing. Did I hallucinate that? I know they took my picture. Oh, they did? Which one did you go to? Which land? Disneyland, the OG. The OG in Orlando? No, the one here in Anaheim. I've never been to the Florida one. Oh, that one. Oh, that's the OG, the one that's here? Yeah, that's the original. Oh, I was in Florida. I was doing some shows and we were doing a video there. And they made us do fingerprints. That's weird. I did my middle finger as a protest. As you should.

35:18Yeah. What are they doing with your fingerprints? Biometrics. Mass surveillance. I don't know. I don't know. but Walt Disney is not dead. Cryo. Cryo. He's back alive now. You think he's out there? Yeah. He talks like Mickey Mouse. Can you talk like Mickey Mouse? That was so bad. I don't know what, what is Mickey, I have to go back to like, I can talk like Mickey Mouse in Fantasia. You want to see? How was that impression? Oh, because he doesn't talk? In Fantasia? No, it's just music. oh yeah hilarious joke charlie i know let's move on i'm like wait i does he not talk is that the one with the trippy music video yeah the dancing elephants right and the broom yeah the broom yeah no that's that scared me yeah oh yeah as a kid yeah i was freaky but you should watch it again as an adult on a gummy on a few gummies yeah yeah no i'm like i have to split my gummy into sixth.

36:25I was just going to say, don't do it on a few gummies. Then it will be just as scary as it was when you were a child. I know. Yeah. Just a little gummy. That would be bad. It does take you through your soul though. Fantasia does. And it's the part that resonates with you shows what's broken. It does. It sounds like you went on like an Ashwaganda journey. No, I watched in Ashwaubenon, but pause for laughter. None. Keep going. wait wait isn't that just a town yeah it didn't make sense it was fine wasn't okay anyways um i think that uh where were we oh yeah that dude disney sucks um yeah i think see what see what italy has to offer also i liked your first idea go to italy have some lasagna with the hot art curator get divorced live in italy bring your kids with you because clearly he's a deadbeat And I think he's cheating when he goes to these little football games and gets these hotels.

37:25Who's staying in the hotel with him? Why does he need a hotel? Why can't he drive home? How far are these football games? Where's the drugs? Wow. Wow. Okay. I think you might be putting some stuff out there that might not be happening. We don't know that he's cheating. I'm catastrophizing. But I think he's projecting. I think he is going up to these little football parties and cheating. And then he's like, you can't go to Italy without me because he is worried about her meeting a hot art curator and having an affair. Yeah, usually that's the thing, right? He's projecting. The person who's worried about it the most is the person that's doing it.

38:04Yep. Yeah. I might not be that far off. No, you might not. You might be destroying a perfectly unhappy marriage right now. Yeah. Just by insinuating it. Yeah, no, probably. I mean, he seems like, you know, a guy who like makes a lot of money and then he feels like he's, you know, like that's, I think the problem when people don't like take all the work that goes on at home, like super serious, you know, it's a pain in the ass, all the house stuff. It's horrible. And it's a full-time job. It is. And then some, and a mental strain, it never ends. And, but yeah, if you're going to like keep a house, watch your kids, that's expensive.

38:46It is. And given that she's just finishing up school and married for 10 years, three kids, she probably put her dreams on hold to have the kids, raise the kids. He hasn't watched them for an extended period of time. He's a deadbeat. He's a loser. Yeah. So she put her dreams on hold and she can't even go look at a painting by herself with some peace. What are they going to do? Bring the kids to Italy too? Do you ever get the other side of the story? Sometimes. Sometimes. And very rare fun occasions. That is fun. Really fun. Yeah. Do you find that your initial assessment still holds? We've had some bad ones that came back and we were way off base.

39:33Yeah, we've stuck our foot in it before. But you only can go off the one side you're getting. Yeah. But you can like, you'll feel a vibe sometimes where you're like, this person feels like they're kind of a unreliable narrator. Like something's not adding up here. We've got some missing details. That's true. That's true. We've got, my podcast is like bellied up and I'm not plugging it here. But we take callers and you can usually tell the same thing. Like if they're, if we do like Midwest advice from the bar, so it's like pretty casual. I love that. But some people just call in and are really like, and then you start poking a few holes and you can hear in the voice sort of the lack of confidence in their initial thing.

40:23And then you're like, aha, we're poking holes. Oh my gosh. With this, you're like, you, I've heard you do it before too, of like, I need more details here. Yeah. it's good it's good to poke holes in some of these things you know i'm with you i like poking a hole or two um i think you gotta question everything especially online like it's it's on reddit yeah take it all with a grain of salt yeah but with that salt yeah if you've never had a few days off everyone needs a vacation or they start dreaming about italian lasagna men that like boobs in their aren't. They appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah. I think you summed it up clearly.

41:06Yeah. You really did. Moving on to this next one. We'll see if you can poke any holes in this one. Okay. Oh, I have so many tabs open and then I just get indecision like paralysis. Cause I'm like, I want it to be a really good story for you. This one I think has some holes. Yeah. No, I get stressed over here. Blood pressure is elevated for sure. I'm too busy looking at your ring. Holy smokes. That thing is massive. Paperweight. That'll kill someone. I know. Yeah. You didn't just get married. You got a weapon for life. Yeah, you did give me that. That was pretty good. You did good. Better than brass knuckles.

41:42Yeah. Diamond knuckles. Diamond. Yeah. This next one wanted to give a ring. It didn't really go according to plan. Okay. So So this is actually coming from our very own Two Hot Takes subreddit. Nice. Titled,

42:09Whoa,

42:1325? Okay. Together for 10 years. Yeah, yeah, okay. Prior to dating, we were close friends. We have known each other for almost 17 years now. Last month, I proposed to her, and she said that she needed some more time to get her life in order. The whole thing shocked me. She apologized. I told her it was okay. However, I've been checking out of my relationship ever since she said no. As days pass, I'm slowly falling out of love with her, and she's probably noticed it. I have stopped initiating date nights, sex, and she has been pretty much initiating everything. She has asked me many times about proposing, and she has said she's ready now, but I told her I need more time to think about it.

43:02She has assured me many times that we are meant to be together and that she wants me to be her life partner forever. We live together in an apartment, but our lease is expiring in a couple of months. I don't really plan on extending it and I'm probably going to break up with her then. Am I the asshole? Um, can you read that last part one more time about the lease? He's going to break up with it when he's, when he can float it. Yeah. They live in an apartment lease expires in a couple of months. I don't plan on extending it. I'm probably going to break up with her then when it's up. Yeah. Nah, I mean, And, you know, are you the answer?

43:43I mean, she's going to find out now. Yeah. Someone's going to hear this and send it to her. That's probably it. It's probably Cry for Help. You know? You think they listen to the podcast together and he's like, I don't want to break up with her. I just want her to hear it on the pod. I don't know. I always wonder about that because some people, the thing, some people call in the art thing about, I mean, same here, you know? It's just because also this is a big pod. So it's not just like if she listens or not, someone she knows is going to put these pieces together. It's a pretty specific relationship.

44:17Yeah. Dating since 15, known each other for 17 years. I mean, yeah, it's it's it. Yeah, I don't think either is an asshole in this situation. I just think you're both 25, you know, something went right. you know technically a brain's not fully developed till like what 26 or something and then if you add THC into that it's probably like 36 so I don't know you just you don't know who you are and no his little retaliatory well I'm not ready now is that's kind of relationships too there's a cat and a mouse you know someone's chasing someone's um not you know in in like not super maybe healthy relationships or new relationships as kind of the vibe yeah for sure and now he's kind of getting like a little bit of a power trip off the fact that she has to initiate everything and I you know I think just get out of it oh yeah yeah I it is interesting the little um almost like the punishment aspect of that like I'm not initiating date nights or sex like I'm like holding that against her I feel like if you've been with the same person for 10 years you don't really know who you are like outside of that person.

45:35I think some people do end up with their high school sweethearts and it works out great for them and magical. If you're out there, what's the secret? Tell us in the comments, but you need a little bit more explanation. It's like him withholding sex, like buddy, I don't think that's as big of a, an issue as you think it is. Like, come on. Okay. He's just, he's a little salty, but I mean, she, she's right. Like 10 years if it's like 25 to 35 that's I think he's more in the right to be like uh well the way he's handling it isn't great but like it's clear they're not ready for it they don't have uh they can't have an honest conversation about it and move past it you know if you gotta do a bunch of passive aggressive things for like a month or whatever it's just time to move on that's kind of what the top comment says top comment if you're sure about breaking up do it now yeah like why are you waiting well for rent for rent i know but like you sort it out yeah you can figure it out stay together and like fake it you know that's the other that's the thing though the economy like right now like uh how much detergent is wow that's gonna go costco even even there though it's gone up like Like from a year ago, it's up like for a big one, it's up like, you know, 20, 30 bucks.

46:57And that should tell you how little I do my laundry because it took me that long to get through that detergent. So that's if you're really paying attention, that's a problem with me. But these clothes are clean. I promise. No, you didn't smell. You're doing good. Thank you. Thanks. But I think that's the reality for a lot of people is that financially they can't get out of the relationship. And I think that's a huge problem, especially when the economy goes to hell. In reality, like, yes, you should be honest and have this conversation. But in reality, if you just need to like just act like everything's kind of cool until the lease comes up and then have that conversation, that's just what most people are going to end up doing.

47:42Yeah, no, it's fair. It's really tough. So I do understand the logic, especially coming from a boy brain, but he does respond to that. Did you guys hear that? Did you hear that slide? That's made up for the Super Bowl comment. Boy brain versus girl brain. Like we just think different. It's just, it's a fact of life. Okay. So let's say that that's a girl writing in. What advice do you give her? I think the girl would break up and just want to get away. even if she was financially strapped sometimes yeah yeah yeah I think like there's always the you know the little outliers if it's like a toxic relationship and she's got to kind of stash money away first then I'm like okay well you know maybe not right away but when it's best but this I feel like women emotionally check out of relationships long before they pull the plug so I don't know I feel like she'd just break up and go yeah but now I bet I think she emotionally checked out and it's classic uh once you can't have it you want it I hate that that's a human condition I know it's literally it's just like the FOMO of it all like when you say no to something, you're like, it's not right.

49:03It's not like the best decision. So no. And then immediately after you're like, you just miss out. You feel, you feel like you're just blowing it. And I think the worst part is when you still have in your mind time to reverse the decision, you drive yourself nuts. Whereas if it's just done, whatever the decision is, it's fine. You move past it. That might be something to be helpful for people with that phone, that getting in that FOMO thing. Just make a decision. Either way, it's going to be fine. Okay. You know, it's like making the wrong turn. You just redirect. Thank you. It's going to calm me down the next time.

49:41Oh, I wasn't mansplaining there. I appreciate it. You've given some like really good, like big pieces of advice. Don't say that to me. I'll just, I'll get in my head and then I will start mansplaining. You're doing a great job. Thanks. So OP responds to the person that's like, just break up. And OP says, okay, I will let her know tomorrow. We have our 10 year anniversary on Friday. And she said she has planned something really special for me the whole day. Nice. So I will let her know before then. No. What? Wait to see if 10 years figures it out. I mean, that sounds awesome right there. Boy brain.

50:16Boy brain. He's going to, I guarantee you, he's going to wait for the 10 year. Well, you know, there are a couple other comments, just people being like, you've known each other since you were eight. You've been dating since you were 15. This old lady and me talking, but neither of you have experienced much else than each other. Yes. Talk to each other. Others have said this, but you really need to work this out. It's very possible that breaking up is the best thing for both of you. You're both still young. Don't decide to get married just because you've put in the time. Yeah. OP doesn't really give any other comments.

50:48Did say something about like they went ring shopping together a few months back. So Like she did know a proposal was kind of coming, but still said no, which I think is a thing. Have you heard about ring clarity? Once you get the ring, you kind of like the blinders and everything comes off and then you're like, whoa, do I want this? That. Ring clarity. Yeah. Guys should probably wear a ring when they get engaged, too. I think they should. Because. Yeah, we got to let everyone know he's off the market. Well, and also he should feel what that's like, too. Yeah. You know? I'm all about equality. Yeah, because I, yeah, that ring clarity that this is real kind of a thing.

51:28This is real. Yeah, it's a constant reminder. Not even like off the market kind of, but just reminding yourself, this is happening in like X amount of months, you know? Well, OP does give us an update. Oh, wow. We got an update. We got an update. It is coming 17 months later. Whoa. Almost a year and a half. Oh, man. This is like knowing there's a Spider-Man 2 and you haven't even watched the first one. I know. Original post was June 19th, 2024. This update came about a week ago. Can I guess? Take a guess. They're married with a kid. so i 26 male am engaged to my fiance 26 female we've been together for 11 years our biggest relationship difficulty happened last year when i proposed and she rejected me you can check my previous post for more details that was genuinely the worst moment of my life even though she apologized in the days and weeks after she said she panicked and she did want to marry me i was very close to ending things though.

52:42Eventually I stayed and a few months later I proposed again and she said yes immediately and was super happy about it. But it's always been in the back of my mind how she rejected and humiliated me when I first proposed to her. So my fiance has a sister, 27 female. Oh, this is so good. Can I guess? No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. The three of us grew up almost like a trio growing up though. I was always closer to her sister She always reminded me of my own sister who passed when she was 10 She asked me out once in middle school and again in freshman year of high school But I always saw her like a sister and in sophomore year.

53:25I started dating my fiance her sister She was nothing but supportive and was genuinely happy for us So yeah, Thanksgiving was yesterday. I was invited. I'm close with her parents too. And we all drank, laughed, talked. Late at night, my fiance's sister asked if we could go to another room to talk. We were both drunk, reminiscing about old memories, and she kissed me.

53:52This, I, keep going. And I didn't stop it. The worst part was that I've never felt anything like that before. It wasn't butterflies. It literally felt like white sparks behind my eyes and this deep feeling in my chest. It felt like my heart skipped or something, like a heart murmur. It hit me so hard that even now, just thinking about it, I can feel that heart murmur. I asked her today if she regretted what we did and she said not at all and that she was just shooting her shot one last time and would respect my decision either way and also admitted that if I did choose her it would likely destroy her bond and her sister and also the family dynamics but she said that it would be worth it for me.

54:41So yeah I know it's horrible but I'm just thinking about so many emotional moments my fiancé's sister and I have shared, like when she was there for me during my worst moments, including sleeping in a hospital chair for three days straight after I had a major accident. She asked me out back when I was overweight, shy, and had zero confidence. I only started dating my fiancé after a huge weight loss transformation, which took almost a year. But her sister never cared about any of that physical stuff. She's always been super loyal. And that kiss? I can't lie. I've never felt like that ever in my life.

55:20Would it be wrong to end the engagement? I'm not delusional about consequences. I feel sick and nauseous even thinking about the fallout and the ruined family dynamics. But I would never have even thought about entertaining this if my fiance hadn't rejected my proposal last year. Ever since then, it's always been at the back of my mind. I'll get over it. The rejected proposal. Why'd you ask her again if you were like still so distraught about it? Well, yeah. I mean, I think that it's ring clarity, you know? He thought he was over it. And then, you know, now it's getting real. Yeah, he's got it.

56:01And that because he's never going to get over the sister. I mean, this is like the graduate, but less weird, you know? What is up with people? Just keep it out of the family. Like, God, what are we doing? Yeah. I mean, also, he said that she's like a sister to him. I know. He kept saying she's like a sister to me, a sister to me. She's your wife's sister. So that's, you know, it's a little incestuous, you know. A little. Right? Although I guess that's sister-in-law. I guess that's how it should be for everyone. Sort of. I don't know. I don't know what I'm saying. All I know, he should probably get out and go date other people.

56:47I know. Including the sister. He should date the sister? Just for fun. Just like a little bit. Well, we do have one more update. Are you serious? Yeah. There's a trilogy. I know. This is cool. This is really nice. I'm going to make you wait because I'm going to go to the bathroom first. Oh, yeah. Go do it. I'll just drink some. Aren't you? You're not going to peek? No, I'm not going to peek. I'm not going to look. You got the cameras up. This episode is brought to you by Cash App. I myself have fallen for a scam, thought I was getting a really good deal on tickets, and bam, I sent the money and I didn't get my tickets.

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58:29It can unlock better rates, more options, and real savings. So whether you're moving, leasing a car, or upgrading your cards, it feels good knowing your credit is working for you. When you start to feel like there's too much on your plate, you can count on Credit Karma for less craziness and more credit. It's like another Netflix episode that I just got to watch. You know, I'm like binging this. Okay, I love hearing that. Wait, before you go, do I get to guess? Do you want to guess what happened? Yeah, oh, I want to absolutely guess. Okay. So he starts dating his sister. relationships done toast but he's back the following thanksgiving are we here yet are we at the following thanksgiving no because the the first update was posted like a week ago oh god i got it this one's like five days old so it's only oh this is this literally yeah yeah just yeah a couple weeks ago oh my god so this happened super fast okay so he started dating the sister and then he made out with her mom.

59:30Oh, the mom's getting roped in now too? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Hey, so only posting this update because a lot of people were asking for one. Oh, I don't like the tone of your voice. This will be, oh, sorry. I'll be more neutral. No, no, no, no. I'm going to be more neutral. I don't mean like you have to change the tone of your voice. That's a natural tone. I'm not being sexist. What I'm saying is like your tone, the tone of your voice is telling me that like. I know. Did I make it negative? Well, it's just going to say, Charlie, you might not like this. This will be my final update. Okay. That sucks.

1:00:05It shouldn't be. Sorry, I'm talking over you. So, yeah, sadly, I don't have a great update. I broke up with my fiance yesterday. And, yeah, she was expectedly shocked and sort of panicking. I felt horrible seeing her cry like that and seeing that reaction. And she kept asking why. And I told her that I just don't think we're meant to be together. and that she deserves someone far better than me. Mm, classic. She was kind of wailing and stuff, and it broke my heart. So obviously, both of our families are shocked, especially because we just had Thanksgiving, and they asked a lot of questions about the wedding and our future plans, even baby names.

1:00:47So yeah, everyone's pretty shocked. Not everyone. I really didn't want it to become a big drama, but it sadly has become a huge drama and everyone is speculating what happened. I met with my fiance's sister last night. Yeah, you did. For dinner. And we both realized the gravity of the situation. We spoke at length and I told her that we should probably take some space and take it slow. Maybe wait a few months. And she said she was willing to wait however long. Damn. She recommended that we can move to a different state. Hang on. Hang on. We both work remote, so that works in our favor. And we can choose any state we like.

1:01:35I asked her many times if she was sure and if she had any regrets after seeing her sister's reaction. And she said that she loves her sister and that the situation obviously sucks. But that love is love. And that the love we have and the deep connection we have is very rare. and now that she has had it, she would never let it go until she dies. Damn. I got those heart flutter feelings again and this time I was sober and we didn't even kiss. It was just her words. So that's probably my final update. Thank you all for the advice. That's not the final update. We all know that's not the final update.

1:02:16That's just the teaser at the end of the trilogy. Like this is done, that's the end of Star Wars and then like in five years, we're going to get a new hope or something. You know, I would really love another update like two years from now. I'd take one two weeks from now. Really? Yeah, two weeks is too soon. Yeah, because they got to move states. I kind of, yeah, they got to do some stuff. They got to move states. I just want it now. It's like when the season ends and you're like, come on. Yeah, yeah. I feel that. She's a handful. The sister? Yeah. I know. I've never had this love and now I won't say goodbye until I die Like, yeah, come on You haven't even slept with him yet Yeah, she don't know You gotta test drive the car before you buy it What are we doing?

1:03:01She's probably heard from the sister how the transmission is, so Ew! Ew! Don't you think? Don't sisters talk about that? For sure! So she knows. She knows right where to stop. Yeah. Hmm. She had insider information. Oh my god, that's illegal. You can't insider trade. Insider trading. That's bad. Only politicians can do that. Facts. Facts. Assholes. Yeah. Um... Move to another state? Oof. Whoa. You're going to cut yourself off from that side of the family? How could you do that? How could you just like genuinely not care about basically your whole family? For like a guy, a guy that your sister's been with for 10 years?

1:03:51I think she did the right thing in a weird way. The sister? Yeah. Why? I think she had a time machine and she went back. She's 45 year old sister. Okay. And she's coming back, going back in time to rescue her sister. And she knows the only way that this guy will ever let go is if she just steps in and takes one for the team, makes out with them. And then because this guy is going to be on the wrong path to, you know, he's going to be regretting getting married. He's always going to have the fact that her sister rejected him. So he's going to start doing nose drugs and going out to Vegas every weekend, gambling a lot, terrible for their kids, starts telling her, no, you can't go to Italy to look at these pictures.

1:04:40And before he knows it, you know, he's a politician going to jail for insider trading because for once our laws actually worked and then our laws work in the future. And then, so she's just doing that and just making out knowing she'll ruin it. And she's looking at the photo right now that's erasing their kids and erasing. Well, it never happened. Yeah, no. Erasing him from the family photo. It's like the butterfly effect. Yeah. It's all changing. Yeah. So I think she did the right thing. Yeah. I mean, the original girl, the fiance for a time, dodged a bullet. I mean, this guy never would have been able to get over that rejection.

1:05:25No. He would have been, you know, five years down the line married with a kid and just still messing up, feeling insecure about it still, probably having an affair. Yeah. So, yeah, dodged a bullet, but this isn't a prize worth winning. No, no. Also, 10 years, come on. Come on, get over it. Really? Yeah. You've been with someone for 10 years from 15 to 25 and you got those kinds of issues? Come on. Just go see what else is out there. Yeah. Do a little window shopping. I mean, and he's just hopping right back into another relationship. Like, be single. Go find yourself. Guys like that can't. Eat, pray, love.

1:06:07Yeah. It is tough. I mean, 10 years, you get used to that kind of thing. And it's hard being by yourself, I think, right after, you know. But yeah, eat, pray, love, you know, do psychedelics. Do what you got to do. Okay. You know, yeah. I mean, that's what I would say. Yeah. But no other updates on this yet. Have to keep our eyes peeled. Can I come back if you get an update? Yeah, I'll keep you posted. That wasn't a yes. That wasn't a full yes. Yes, you can come back on another episode. Yeah, yeah. If this. Not if. Open invitation. You're doing a good job. Okay, nice. Yeah, we'll put you in the regular rotation.

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1:08:08Chrysler is a registered trademark of SCAUS LLC. I've got another one for you. Oh wow, there's more. There's always more. I mean, do you see how many tabs I've opened? Like when I said I have tabs, I have tabs. We could sit here actually until Christmas. This is insane. I know. That's why you got that big laptop there. Yeah, it's beefy. So you know, look at all those. Do you take that in a backpack with you when you go home to Minnesota? Yeah. Mm. Yeah. Well, that's why you go to that massage place all the time. Yeah, my back hurts. Yeah. No, you got a 20-pound computer on you. I do. You know, this is actually the lighter one, but it took a tumble the other day.

1:08:53I'm feeling really sad. It fell out of my car straight on the concrete. Yeah, well. That's why you have a case. Yeah, I was just going to say, but I knew you already knew your mistake. I know. I felt it. Okay. I'm going to give you a choice on this next one. Okay. First option. My husband of four years doesn't take our role playing serious when we have sex. He purposefully takes his characters way over the top. Or option two, my husband's owl obsession is ruining our marriage.

1:09:30What one are you feeling? Or, oh, hold on. I'll even give you a secret third option. My fiance is a homicide detective and I'm starting to feel like he treats me more like a suspect than a partner.

1:09:47These are all good. Okay, I like birding. I like birding, but that... Okay, I kind of want to hear what he does with the character's sex in bed. So let's go with that one. The role playing. But it's such a hard thing. The homicide one. They'll still get it. You don't have to worry about them. They'll still get it. Yeah, I'll just have to listen in. All right, let's do the, I want to hear what this guy does. Okay. How over the top he takes it. My 31 female husband, 33 male of four years, doesn't take our role playing serious when we have sex. He purposefully takes his characters way over the top.

1:10:24So we've been with each other for six years. Our sex life is just as good as when it started. I just wanted to try out some kinkier stuff. So I suggested role playing. Kevin, my husband, was somewhat open to the idea, but also thought it was a bit ridiculous. This is something I've always wanted to try, sort of like a fetish. So we got a few costumes, a cop outfit and a spy trench coat for him, and a nurse and cheerleader outfit for me. All of our role playing revolves around one person being in character and the other one interacting with them. But he takes his roles as a joke. He goes intentionally extreme with the roles.

1:11:05I know he thinks it's a bit ridiculous, and I know he has more fun when he does this, but I want a real role play. For example, when he's dressed up as a cop, he was supposed to do a stop and frisk, arrest me, etc., but in a sexy way. But instead, he kicks open the door, screams, Hands up! This is a raid! and basically tackles me to the bed. He handcuffs me, literally reads me my Miranda rights, leaves me there and starts rummaging through the drawers, throwing stuff everywhere, pulls out a little baggie of weed and goes ape shit like a cop might. I play along, try to get him to let me go if I can do sexual favors for him.

1:11:58Then we have some rough sex with handcuffs and everything. The actual sex was good, but he kept speaking into his fake radio calling for backup. When I was on top of him, he would shout, officer down, officer down. With the spy outfit, he would come in and check me for wires and do the whole Pink Panther thing where he would say, it is lovely weather we are having while sneaking into the drapes and then beating the drapes up. I was envisioning a more James Bond-esque seduction. I like the sex. It's good. But I want a more porn-like experience. And it was kind of funny, but not what I thought. And I know that he thinks roleplay is ridiculous and that he is trying to have fun with it.

1:12:47But I feel like he doesn't know what I want. And I don't hate him for it. He's a big fucking goofball in and out of our roles, but I want to have my experience. How can I tell him this? That's great. I think this actually has a lot of potential, like, because the guy seems like a great comedic actor. He takes, I think he takes these roles very seriously. Like, he's very into the role play. It doesn't even seem like he's making fun of it. Well, yeah. And yeah, I don't know. He's like applying for the job. Now, true facts, but also when he's calling for backup, when he's saying officer down. Can you imagine?

1:13:31Oh my gosh. Think about all the great comedic actors out there. Some of them go into dramas, right? Like Steven Carell. Yeah. You know, he's, uh, you know, he's obviously got the office, Steve Carell, he's got the office. And then what's that one that he Love Actually with Ryan Gosling. Oh yeah, Ryan Gosling too. Not Love Actually. Oh my God. No, that's someone. But I was thinking with Steve Carell, what's the one where he's, or Robin Williams, take him for. Yeah. Who are you thinking of? I was thinking of Steve Carell, but it's Crazy Stupid Love. It's him, Ryan Gosling, Julianne Moore. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:14:10That's a comedy, right? Crazy Stupid Love. It's like a really sad movie. Is that where he is? He looks like he's like a kind of a nerdy old guy, but not a four-year-old virgin. Yeah. That's the movie I'm thinking about. I didn't know the name. Yep. But like the point is like great comedic actors have the potential to be like great regular actors. Yeah. But you need a little training. And the only way by training is to just get the reps in. so I think as a good thing what they could do is watch an episode of The Office and say this is funny but I need this you know okay but yeah just just to fully live in the character not try to get laughs he's trying he's doing an improv thing like he's doing improv comedy where he's trying to like get the laugh and she just wants him to and but I think that there's potential and there's something to work with.

1:15:05Yeah. How would you recommend that he like commits to the bit better without like making fun of it? I think, um, he's, he's basically just gotta, I like looking through looking for the weed. I think that's good. That shows great improv, but I think you just where you, you're kind of like joking, you're, you're joking the joke. It's a hat on a hat kind of, but that's assuming it's all like there can be a few jokes made but he's just got to really live that character okay and be that person and fully and I think she just needs to explain that and I think using those movies as an example would help but I mean this guy's not going to get it at first let's be honest no I mean he see I go back and forth because it does really seem like he is trying like reading her her miranda rights like you have the right to remain silent that honestly that could be really hot but top comment oh man this is gold op this is probably one of the best problems you could have on this subreddit i'm picturing him opening the sex drawer everyone has and flinging dildos and various other toys around your husband sounds hilarious he sounds like a good guy and he's clearly open to suggestions.

1:16:21Why haven't you just tried talking to him about it? Maybe he can be silly every other time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's exactly it. He's a fun time, you know. And also, I bet, you know, the other thing is like with the costumes, right? Don't just order those off like off the internet. Yeah. Like really go to an actual costume shop and get the actual thing. You think that'll help set the mind a little more? Yeah, because if he's coming in in one of those like Halloween cop costumes, it doesn't feel real. No, it feels fake. Let's get him a real badge, you know? Okay. Yeah. You can find real old badges on eBay.

1:17:04Sure can. Real easy. eBay's got everything. Go to a thrift shop together, like one of those vintage shops, not the stupid expensive ones, but like the actual antique shops and start, you know that'll help the foreplay is really building the character you know yeah I think that'd be good okay there are just don't make it a real gun no no someone was thinking it I just saved you first yeah I like that I appreciate you looking out for everybody wrap it up some people are sharing their own experiences in the comments nice someone goes this reminds me of when my girlfriend finally agreed to indulge my ultimate roleplay fantasy, lonely fisherman trapped mermaid.

1:17:47She spent 45 minutes under a net that I ordered from Amazon singing catchy songs about life under the sea, her dreams of true love, and her wish to have real legs. I finally gave up and rowed my boat, cardboard box, back to the living room to watch TV. I finally had my revenge the next week during our mummy sexy archaeologist session. But I understand feeling put out over your situation. Believe me.

1:18:19That's great. There's a lot of like funny freaks out there. A lot. A lot. And this is from 2016. Is it? It's a very vintage Reddit post. That's great. That's great. It's old before AI. Before AI. It's giving very real. People just had to use their imaginations Yeah That's what it's really like And also like just sort of build it up a little bit more You know get the set dressing right Everything you know Like lean into the realism of it I mean depending on where you live You could like rent out a jail cell If you really wanted to do it right Like there's like You can rent out a jail cell? Well there's like sets I'm thinking LA Like here in LA you can rent out like a vintage diner For like a photo shoot You can rent out like a jail cell.

1:19:08Like they're, they're sets, but you know, like you're talking about set dressings, like go, go really immerse yourself in that scene. Yeah. Set it right. You know, set the scene. Right. Yeah. No, that's perfect. You can do that. Or, you know, in Wisconsin, just go get publicly intoxicated and get in a real jail cell and see what happens. Actually, don't do that. That's a bad idea. Have you been to jail? Yes, I've been to jail. Yeah. Huh. How was it? Did you get your one phone call? Is it as they say? No, I got a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Oh. I was in Minneapolis or St. Paul. Home state.

1:19:46What did you do? I was work. I was a journalist. Okay. I got arrested covering the protests at the RNC in 2008. Wow. I was in college, yeah. They arrested a bunch of journalists because people were making fake credentials and they issued a disperse order, you know? Okay. Yeah. And then I was with this actual reporter from the Boston Globe, you know, like a professional. I was there for like six months at MTV. And then I was like, so what do we do now? Because I looked around and there was like a whole line of police officers walking toward us. And he's like, now we get arrested. So I was like, damn.

1:20:31I'm going to be, I don't have any money to pay for this. Oh my gosh. But yeah, I met a taxi driver from Dinkytown, gave him half my PB &J and he gave me a ride to Dinkytown after. Now for those of you not from the Midwest, Dinkytown is not an innuendo. I didn't do anything weird with the taxi driver, but we had breakfast at about 6 a.m. and um god what's that diner that was right there in dinky town is it go to the diner is a diner open at like super early because that might be it wondered about what that is it was the best diner it was like where you would go al's breakfast might have been al's oh might have been al's it was al's there was um tony's but al's was like super good i used to live in dinky town Did you?

1:21:25Yeah. Oh, that's cool. Did you go to U of M? Sure did. No, I went to Wisconsin. I Googled that. I wasn't happy about it when I saw it. Yeah. Yeah, you've been Buckeye, Bucky the Badger fan you are. Don't say Buckeye though now. It's Ohio State, even worse. Yeah, it is even worse. At least we got that going. Sorry about all the times we won that ax. I'm not really the biggest college football fan, so that's okay. That's fine. We had a rough year. Yeah, I was more of a hockey fan. All right. This episode is brought to you by Revolve. My summer has been jam-packed with moments where I just want to look cute.

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1:23:28Do you want another choice or do you want me to... I'll let you do it. Okay. My choice is I deliberate too much. No, you didn't. No, that was actually a very knee-jerk reaction. Okay. You were quick with it. This next one is coming... Thank you for the reassurance. Yeah, no, I think you're... Sorry I interrupted. You're crushing it. both of us just midwest constantly apologizing to each other just oops sorry apologizing reassuring yeah it's probably a good zip zang here the nicest episode i've had in five years of this show nice okay this last one coming from aith am i the asshole seven days old am i the asshole for telling a friend's boyfriend that he can't have a traditional wife because he's not a traditional man.

1:24:13Wow. I, 27 female, was hanging out with some friends with their significant others last week. To make a long story short, my friend's boyfriend kept talking about how women no longer want to be traditional wives, and that's why many of them are single. I responded. I already know this dude. I already know exactly who this dude is. I responded that in 2025, women don't feel like they need a man in order to provide the lives that they want for themselves. He kept going on about what women used to do and how they were all about taking care of their husband and household without complaining. I let it go on for a while, but I got tired of hearing his rant and told him that he can't have a traditional wife when my friend goes 50-50 on all the bills and works more hours than he does.

1:25:07Way to just sack tap him. I continued with, he isn't a traditional husband and can't provide for his household like he's supposed to, so that my friend can stay home and do those traditional duties. I may have become the asshole when I told him that it sounds like he wants another mommy and not a wife. It became silent, and he told me that my way of thinking just proved his point. Oh, nice, dude. Nice. The conversation pivoted elsewhere, and I thought that that was it, but I got a message from my friend saying that her boyfriend was upset at me for what I said and that I embarrassed him. He wants me to apologize, but I don't think that I should have to, being as though I was just responding to his rant about traditional women.

1:25:58My friend said she doesn't think I'm wrong, but doesn't think I'm right either. and I should have just let him talk because he had a few drinks. Am I the asshole? No. No. I think that's hilarious though. Be like, oh yeah, you want her to stay home and just have babies and all that. Okay, well, let me feel your hands. They're going to be a little too soft for that, buddy, you know? Oh, that's a good one. Just tell him he has soft hands. Yeah, I don't know. especially if he's going Dutch on it all he needs that income you know yeah that's that's just a hilarious response that's a great way of kind of mirroring it too saying okay let's take what you want let's go there let's look at all aspects of this you know that's a really good point because you could have gone that route the mirror route in this situation like how much do you make a year yeah like so you know cost of living these days you only make I don't know 96k do you think that's enough for for my friend to quit her job and for you to support you guys yeah what about if you have a kid yeah or and even take it to the next level oh my gosh I think she would love to just not work yeah and to just stay at home stay home god but she might take a little bit more money but you're a man you can provide that yeah yeah how much do you make a year yeah I love this you know what that's great I'm gonna talk to her I'm gonna get her on board with this but do you think you'd be able to make like three four hundred thousand dollars yeah do you think that'd be okay is there a promotion in the works yeah anything because right now you're lacking in that department yeah just a little bit yeah the 401k is not looking too good yeah yeah I don't know why why uh That's the preferred thing.

1:27:52The 401k? Oh, no, no, no. Just the traditional stuff. Then just go find someone who wants that. I know. You know? There's people out there that really do. They love it. God bless them. Then go find them, you know? But you can't. It never works if you're trying to change someone into, especially if you just pulled the thing you want off some stupid ass podcast, you know? Yeah, don't listen to anything we say. Yeah. No, I didn't mean this podcast. I didn't mean this podcast. I'm just saying like there's podcasts that are all about. Or even there's like the whole traditional thing or like their home something.

1:28:32The Chad wife. That's making a comeback right now. Yeah, but I mean the point, like there's those people out there, so just go find them. Everything's got a niche these days. But yeah, you're never going to pull someone from there what they authentically want to do. It's just never going to work. No, maybe she loves her job. But even if she doesn't love her job and is cool with that, like, which kind of sounds like she isn't as opposed. You're not making enough if you're splitting things 50-50 right now. Like, you got to buck up. Yeah. Get a few more calluses on your hand. I like that. That soft hands.

1:29:07That was good. Oh, yeah. It's hilarious. I see your hands. Yeah. Yeah. That was good. It's funny. And if you have calloused hands, utter butter is great. You ever see that utter butter you get? Well, I've heard about bag balm. That's a big thing in the Midwest. You get bag balm. Yeah. It's meant for cow's udders. Yeah, that's basically it. Then they've got another thing that's like this udder butter stuff. But same church, different pew. Okay, I like that. I've started getting working hands. It's in like a little green tin. That, I don't know what is in it. But if you're cracked or a little dry, put that on.

1:29:42One night, you're back to good. Yeah, I got something in my car. because this finger too, for whatever reason, like my hands get a little. In the Midwest, we get chapped hands. Yeah, chapped everything. Hands, lipped ass. Yeah, whole deal. Nothing worse than a chapped ass. Terrible. Yeah. Especially when someone chaps it for you. Right? Yeah. Like this guy. Top comment on this one, not the asshole. The audacity of going on and on about trad wives and splitting things 50-50 with his girlfriend. friend lol it's so weird that these guys somehow always forget that women have jobs i've never met an unemployed adult woman society has moved on dude there's no way to hack it on a single income anymore which is why trad wives are just tiktoks what are they chad well i'm out of the loop trad wives trad trad trap like oh like traditional yeah that's the dumbest name i've ever trad is That's so funny.

1:30:41Trad. Yeah, T-A-R-D. I shouldn't yuck someone's yum. Have you seen, there's like some really big trad wife influencers these days. They're in two heavens. Like they make their bubble gum from scratch. Like they're so crazy. I mean, that's cool. So much work. I started making sourdough recently. Oh, my sister's into that. Bridget? Yeah. Cool. I have eight sisters, but that's just the one that's come up twice. Oh my gosh. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I got a lot of kids. Did you grow up on a farm? No. No, I did not. We got cats like. Okay. Parents just, yeah. They love board games. Yeah. Really like each other.

1:31:14Yeah. How long have they been married? Since 1984. Okay. 30. Coming up on 32 years. 32 next year. 32 next year. Yeah. 31, 32. What do you think their secret is? Sex. No. Okay. Children. I think they, my mom, my mom's from a family of 11 and she, she really liked being, Big family. Big families. Yeah, I mean. Close knit. Yeah. That's really cool. Yeah. But yeah, it's not, as we're talking about trad families or whatever, some might consider that, but that's not really how it was in my family either. Everyone has a job. You go milk the cows. Bridget's on bread. Yeah. No, no. We grew up, but that was like, my mom always wanted that and she enjoyed it and had fun with it, you know.

1:32:07But there was never like some underlying political belief or whatever with it. It's more Catholic belief, actually. Okay, okay. But they enjoyed it. I like that. Eight is... Did you guys have a bus? We had a secondhand Presbyterian people mover. Cool. So you had like a little mini bus. Yeah, I was double buckling a lot. You ever double buckle? No. It's the best. It's the worst, actually. Where you put two people in one seatbelt? Yeah. That doesn't sound very crash test rated. Yeah. We all lived. That's positive. And we had enough kids anticipating some of us wouldn't. So a lot of bonus kids. We do have an update on this one.

1:32:52Oh, sick. Yeah. I called my friend to try and understand why her boyfriend was embarrassed and why she was trying to be Switzerland in this situation. She explained that I'm her friend, and although she doesn't disagree with what I said, she feels like she needs to have her man's back as well. I told her that she doesn't have my back by asking me to apologize to him and not standing up for me or at the very least telling him what he was saying was idiotic. We talked for about an hour and I actually feel like it didn't get anywhere. I told her that I would not apologize and that he can't come around me anymore and she was very upset with that statement.

1:33:28What? I feel like I lost a close friend and that hurts a lot But I will not be disrespected. Sorry, this isn't some juicy stuff, but I just wanted to update everyone on how the situation ended. The dude has soft hands. He's got a soft soul. I mean, if you want your thing and you're proud of your thing, then just say it and take what comes with it. Accept the consequences. Turn in my dad now, you know? I mean, stay out of the kitchen if you can't handle the heat. Where did you think that conversation was going to go? Yeah. Just two plus two equals four, usually Yeah, he sounds like a dude who, you know, whose parents never told him too bad I really do like your energy you're giving Like, too bad, so sad, move on, grow up You're really kind of just like, pick me up by my bootstraps and let's keep going Um, yeah Do you get that a lot?

1:34:25From my parents? My parents, yeah You're a tough cookie Well, but I mean, if you think about it, I'm second-to-allest family at 12. Nobody cares about you. It's the whole, it's the idea of the whole, you know, the whole family, you know. More the unit, not one part? Yeah. Yeah, you're not important. And if you think you are, you're not. Look at the context of the world. You're not special. You're not important. You do what you can to make the world a better place or get out of it, you know. And by get out of it, I don't mean like, I mean, just get out of the situation that you're bitching about.

1:35:02Can I say bitching here? You can swear as much as you want. Yeah, I mean, that's just it. It's just nobody wants to hear what you have to say unless you're helping. It's kind of - Especially these days. Yeah. Especially these days. Well, especially this whole like fake masculine or whatever it is. The toxic masculinity. I don't even know what that is, but I just mean like the sort of fake, like if you're going to pretend like you want that traditional, like I just watched Yellowstone and I think I know how to like ride a horse. If you got that in you, then just suck it up. Quit pretending like you're a victim of something.

1:35:43You're not. Nobody cares. That's just my thought process. So to say I can't be around her, you know that he has really soft hands and not for moisturizing. Anyways, but that's my soapbox. That's your hot take. And now I'll step off it. That's my hot take. That's your hot take. Yeah, you got me going there. I did. I really riled you up at the end. Took a while. Took a while, but the crock pot got hot, you know? I love a crock pot. Don't you? It's just so nice. You said it and forget it. Yeah, but don't fully forget it. There's people, they get a little crazy. They'll like put their crock pot on low and they'll go to work for eight hours and come home and dinner's ready.

1:36:26But like, aren't you worried about a fire? Not with a crock pot. Those things don't start on fire. This is the PSA portion of the show. That was a joke. They absolutely do set on fire. No, you're really rolling the dice every now and again with that. But I got a crockery. Okay. West Bend crockery. I don't know what that is. It's a type of crock pot. Okay. Mm-hmm. From 94, I think. It's how old as me? Judging by the shade of blue. Very nice. Oh, you're in 94? Yeah. 94 model? Mm-hmm. There you go. I'm an 87 model. A little bit older. I think my brother was born in 86. You think? Yeah, well, we've got an eight-year difference, so I just do the math that way.

1:37:08You don't know the year offhand? Actually, you went, what am I talking about? I don't even know how old half my siblings are. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Name all of their birthdays. No. I don't think I can most of them. Oh, shit. What's today? The 15th. It's Nora's birthday today. You're good. I think. You're good. Or it's tomorrow. No, it's today. You better check your calendar. Damn. Call your mom. Now, the fact that there's deliberation on this podcast. Bridget's going to clip it and show it to Nora. I know. You'll get another fan, though. Hey, Nora. Yeah. All right. I hope you get some fans from this because I'm certainly a fan.

1:37:49Oh, thank you. Your standup is amazing. I will be sure to put the link for it in the description of this episode. But where can everyone find you? How can they support you? Oh, thanks. How can they listen to your podcast? Where's it at? Yeah, appreciate that. Podcast. Well, Neighborly, the special Neighborly is on my YouTube channel, Charlie Behrens. You recorded it in Wisconsin, right? Appleton, Wisconsin. Yeah. You had some good energy from the room. I could feel it. Yeah, you felt very homey. And your grandma was there. My grandma was there. I love the denture story. Yes, thank you. That was good.

1:38:20Thank you. Yeah, that's our insider conversation. You guys will know what we're talking about when you watch the special. You'll get there soon. But it's Neighborly. It's on YouTube. Got the Lost and Found Tour. It's charliebarons.com. And then Bellied Up with my buddy Miles, the You Betcha guy. Yeah. You can look that up. Wait. You guys have like a clothing brand in Fleet Farm, don't you? Well, we did. We did. I feel like I went there and I got one of those shirts. Did you? And then I just connected it when I was like, who's this guy? I'm going to get him on the pod. And then I was like, wait, I have one of his shirts.

1:38:53Which one? I don't even remember. But I was like, you had like this whole little rack. It's her favorite one. It was like a good little hat stand. I feel like the hat said like, you betcha. Well, those were his hats. So you got his stuff. No, but that's fine. I don't remember. But I went shopping at Fleet Farm. I'm not banned from there anymore. So I can go back. And it was a great experience. Nice. How'd you get banned from there again? It's a story for another day. What podcast do I have to listen to to hear the story? I was a little shoplifter. I had a problem. Yeah, that's your kink right there, the shoplifting.

1:39:28And I didn't do it after. Huh? I didn't do it after I got caught. Well, you need to get caught. See, that's what you need in life. You need to get caught. Just like that last dude, he got caught in his bullshit. And now he'll learn. Maybe he'll learn. That's a really good theme for me. Caught in the bullshit. Mm-hmm. Caught up in it. You get caught and you learn. Good for you. Yeah. I'm glad that you're - I learned. You paid for that shirt then? Yeah. Yeah, I did. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I just got this recently in Jackson Hole. Sick. That's cool. Some real tree on there. Yeah. It does say real tree?

1:40:04Yeah, sure does. Yeah, I know my camo. Yeah. Anyways, now we're in a long goodbye. Oh, my God. Gonna offer me leftovers? The Minnesota goodbye that never ends. I do send people home with stuff. Cool. Yeah. Sick. Okay. Now don't go pulling your ducks off your wall for me, all right? It's going home with you. No, it's not. I can't fit in my suitcase. And I'm not taking your dad's wood duck. He wouldn't even notice. He's gonna notice. No. He's gonna know. No. Yeah. Until next time, guys. Bye. Watch for deer. What'd you say? Oh, I said watch for deer. Watch for deer. Yeah. Sorry. That's. Is that your thing?

1:40:45It's kind of lame that I put it on your podcast, but. No. Say it more like. Forcefully? Yeah. You were kind of noncommittal with that. I was super noncommittal. Yeah. But I felt weird doing it. It wasn't right. Winter's coming. My waves. Yeah. Drive safe on ice. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. Watch out for the black ice, you know. That'll get you. It'll get you real quick. And then you'll go into the cheese grater. Sure will. Bad news. Bad day. All right. See you guys.