255: Ludicrous! Ft. Angela Giarratana

12 Feb 2026 · 1 h 52 min · 36 chapters

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In short

The hosts react to multiple Reddit relationship posts, focusing on jealousy/control in relationships, disrespect and power dynamics in marriage, emotional withdrawal/stonewalling, and boundary-setting. They also riff on personal insecurities (luteal phase, body image) and share humorous “rage”/revenge anecdotes (rage rooms, dog/cat/rat stories, petty pranks).

Guests

Angela Giarratana (the episode’s featured guest). Backgrounds mentioned: she has a personal YouTube channel (noted as having ~163 subscribers), and she hosts a podcast called “Artists on Artists.” The hosts describe her as a longtime friend/returning guest and emphasize her creative work.

Key claims

  1. Jealousy can be controlling when a partner tries to stop a ritual that helps their partner decompress.
  2. Verbal degradation, financial control, and “employee/boss” dynamics in marriage are abuse and won’t improve.
  3. A spouse rating their partner’s attractiveness as “a five” (and making a degrading “naked = 10” comment) signals lack of respect and may indicate the relationship is over.
  4. Insecure partners need reassurance, but partners should not weaponize honesty.

Notable examples

  • Jealous boyfriend upset that girlfriend talks to her fish after work.
  • Housewife called “dead weight,” “whore,” and blamed on her period; husband controls help/finances.
  • Husband rates girlfriend “five out of 10,” then says “when you’re naked, you’re a full 10.”
  • “Left me over a cheese wheel” after ~$18,500 spent from shared house savings.

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Chapters

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Setting the Stage for Ludicrous Stories

0:44 to 1:09

Hosts discuss their anticipation for ludicrous stories and the day's themes.

“Time to clean out that closet and maybe make some extra money in the process.”

Setting the Stage for Ludicrous Stories

6:05 to 6:46

Hosts discuss their anticipation for ludicrous stories and the day's themes.

“We're going to start off a little light.”

Relationship Advice: Jealousy Over a Fish

6:46 to 10:40

Analysis of an anonymous relationship advice post about jealousy over fish.

“This first one is coming from Relationship Advice, three days old, titled, How can I, 33 male, stop making my boyfriend, 36 male, jealous of my fish for female.”

Exploring Fish Conversations and Emotions

10:40 to 14:01

Discussion on the nuances of talking to pets and the emotional aspects involved.

“four they gave the the age and the gender of the fish you were going one fish four female so four fish no one fish four female and I go what are you talking I thought you've been on Reddit more.”

Fish and Pets: Disappearing Acts

14:01 to 17:00

Exploring humorous anecdotes about fish and household pets.

“Limpet and he turns into a fish because he wants to be a fish.”

The Housewife's Dilemma

17:01 to 21:50

A woman discusses the struggles of being a housewife and feeling disrespected.

“Coming from Relationship Advice, it's titled, How do I, female 24, deal with being a housewife after my husband, male 31, called me dead weight?”

Recognizing Emotional Abuse

21:51 to 26:08

Analyzing the signs of emotional and financial abuse in relationships.

“No, and I think a lot of people forget, like, abuse doesn't, it's not just physical.”

Empowerment and Moving On

26:09 to 28:00

Encouraging women to seek respect and independence in relationships.

“Your partner being in love, being in a marriage should be one of the greatest parts of life.”

Discussion on Relationship Respect

28:00 to 30:22

The hosts discuss self-respect in relationships, particularly in relation to a Reddit post.

“A lot of people are just like, please get out.”

Husband's Low Rating: A Reddit Post

30:22 to 32:40

A Redditor shares her husband's troubling rating of her attractiveness, prompting an analysis of their marriage dynamics.

“It's titled, My husband gave me a 5 out of 10.”
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Analyzing the Impact of Ratings

32:40 to 35:15

The hosts analyze the implications of the husband's rating and what it reveals about his feelings toward his wife.

“It wouldn't, if it would have been just like, I don't even, like a five.”

Support and Insecurity in Relationships

35:15 to 37:14

Discussion on the importance of support in relationships and how insecurities can manifest.

“It's awful being like, well, if it comes with tits, then I like it.”

Personal Experiences with Insecurity

37:14 to 39:40

Hosts share personal experiences related to feeling insecure and needing reassurance in relationships.

“And I think that's why I relate a little bit where I'm just like, God, she just wanted to feel special in the eyes of her husband.”

Final Thoughts on the Situation

39:40 to 42:00

The hosts conclude their thoughts on the Reddit situation, emphasizing the importance of feeling valued and respected.

“And then I also now find them on Instagram and I create folders on Instagram.”

Discussing Relationship Expectations

42:00 to 44:25

Learn how numerical ratings affect trust and respect in relationships.

“what he thinks of my face or my appearance and put it to a number that means if you're looking for a numeric value in your partner, I don't think you're feeling trusted or respected at all.”

Petty Revenge and Dog Walking

44:25 to 45:51

Explore humorous stories of petty revenge involving dog owners.

“Big pile of dog shit, just in the middle of the steps.”

Banned from McDonald's

45:51 to 47:18

Hear a wild story about a high school revenge incident at a fast food restaurant.

“It's not like your body or like your clothes.”

Trendy Ice Cream Pranks

47:18 to 49:10

Revisit hilarious pranks like coning and their place in social media history.

“No, I grew up in church, so maybe it was a church thing.”

The $18,500 Cheese Wheel Dilemma

50:45 to 56:00

Dive into a relationship conflict over a significant investment in cheese.

“Eight days old, titled, Am I Overreacting?”

The 140-Pound Cheese Investment

56:00 to 57:20

Exploration of a bizarre cheese investment and its implications.

“Which it feels, I mean, it's kind of the same concept.”

Proving the Cheese Purchase

57:20 to 59:40

Discussion on the legitimacy of the cheese purchase and the OP's efforts to prove it.

“The fact that he thinks he can find 300 plus people willing to pay$60 for 200 grams of cheese in this economy is insane.”

The Duct Tape Dilemma

59:40 to 1:01:50

Concerns about preserving the cheese and the complications that arise from it.

“I just wanted to feel included in like elementary school.”

Landlord Troubles Over Cheese

1:01:50 to 1:07:40

Narration of the OP's landlord issues stemming from the cheese purchase.

“It's just trying to validate this person's real story.”

The Cheese Boy Future

1:07:40 to 1:10:02

Speculation on the OP's future as a 'cheese boy' following their investment decisions.

“OP goes, I added a plus to the valuation of the cheese, as it is possible to increase my margins depending on the quantities I sell.”

The Cheese Boy Saga

1:10:02 to 1:19:10

A humorous exploration of a man deeply invested in cheese, his financial woes, and the reactions of his ex-girlfriend and friends.

“So he's not even going to make that much.”

The Cheese Boy Saga

1:19:59 to 1:20:24

A humorous exploration of a man deeply invested in cheese, his financial woes, and the reactions of his ex-girlfriend and friends.

“Time to clean out that closet and maybe make some extra money in the process.”

Navigating Cheesy Business Ventures

1:20:26 to 1:24:05

Discussion on entrepreneurial opportunities and the absurdity of selling cheese online.

“You almost want to end there, but we can't.”

Navigating the 'I Told You So' Moments

1:24:05 to 1:26:29

The hosts discuss the dynamics of being right in a conversation and the emotional reactions it can provoke.

“Or he could have been like, there's so many versions of I told you so.”

Accidents and Vulnerability

1:26:30 to 1:28:19

The conversation shifts to discussing the vulnerabilities associated with accidents and seeking help.

“Because sometimes people have an energy, but they're not saying anything, but it's very passive aggressive.”

Kitchen Accidents and Safety

1:28:20 to 1:30:34

They share humorous anecdotes about kitchen accidents and the dangers of certain kitchen tools.

“and I was just like, so it's a vulnerable spot to be in.”

Kitchen Accidents and Safety

1:31:59 to 1:32:13

They share humorous anecdotes about kitchen accidents and the dangers of certain kitchen tools.

“You can shop our faves and get 15 % off your first order.”

Discussing Trust and Relationships

1:32:14 to 1:38:03

The hosts delve into a listener's dilemma about trust when a husband reconnects with an old crush.

“Husband all of a sudden texted his high school crush and wants to meet her.”

Navigating Jealousy and Trust Issues

1:38:03 to 1:46:44

Listeners will learn about the complexities of jealousy and trust in relationships, illustrated through a personal story.

“you became the woman I was happy you weren't in terms of sick jealousy.”

The Impact of Dreams on Relationships

1:46:44 to 1:51:08

Gain insights into how dreams can influence feelings and behaviors in romantic partnerships.

“Or his like ego needs her to say that she was wrong.”

Farewell and Subscriptions

1:52:00 to 1:52:57

The hosts say goodbye and encourage listeners to subscribe to the channels.

“He's probably sleeping or like cutting cheese or something.”

Final Thoughts and Farewell

1:54:23 to 1:54:50

Wrapping up the episode with light banter and farewells between hosts.

“And slowly the things you love begin to find each other.”
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Transcript

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0:44Season is changing. Time to clean out that closet and maybe make some extra money in the process. Vinted is a secondhand marketplace app where you can sell your clothes you no longer wear and get more value out of your wardrobe. It's super simple to use and with no selling fees. So you keep what you earn. Give your clothes a second life with Vinted. Download the Vinted app for free to start listing with no seller fees. Are you locked in? I'm locked, babe. Here we go. Wait, okay. I'm so excited. People are going to be losing their minds like, I know that voice. It's Angela.

1:21It's been too long. It's been way too long. Way too long. I saw you at a little Spotify party the other day, like a month ago. And I was like, oh, I just miss her. I loved your outfit. Someone told me it was not very flattering on me. What? Yeah, I said, fuck you. I'm in my luteal face. You're kidding. People are, I'm telling you, people are coming out of the woodwork. I wanted to like get put in a rage room today to just like take out my angst that the world has created within me. We're cooked right now. Have you gone to a rage room ever? Never. Okay, today, this, right now. Right here. This is our rage room.

2:01This is our rage room. This is it. Honestly, it should be free to women. All rage rooms should be free to women. And I also think all women should have free Wi-Fi everywhere they go. Thank you. It's a safety precaution. Thank you. Equity, not equality. Equity. I am so freaking pumped about these. I just feel like I'm setting this up and all of us out there, like all of you guys listening, if you just need to just like scream in your car, scream in your car, like literally let it out. Today we're doing that. You can scream here. Thank you. We will turn the volume down for everyone. I'll move my mouth from the mic.

2:41I am kind of theming this as ludicrous. Okay. The luda mode. Luda. These are just stories that you're just like, what? What? Okay. I don't even know what. I'm like, people are gonna be like, you need to calm down. I've had a lot of coffee today. Babe, me too. A lot of coffee. I've also had two naps. Full day, two naps. You know, like when you're like thing to thing to thing, but not everything is perfectly booked up. so you have like an hour in between two things that's happened to me today where I like I mean it's a car nap like I laid in my car for like five minutes and I woke up what else is going on with you I feel like I see a Sundance film and what's your little character I already forgot his name oh my god you're the best I did very important people I drop out which is really fun I'm like I'm having a stroke right now I literally you walked in I go Finale's in the house I love you I literally just had a stroke You're the best.

3:38What else is new though? Honestly, I'm getting better at reading Reddit. Okay. I'm kind of, I've never used Reddit. Yeah. Like when I have a problem now, I'll try to Google it. And I won't talk about, I won't do what we're always talking about where it's like people are typing. Yeah. But I'm now looking up, instead of just Google, because you know how Google AI is like awful? It tried to put Gemini on my Gmail. No. I'm like, you're encrouching on me. I can, no. Like responding to emails? No. Giving me email summaries. I'm like, shut it off. No. It's never accurate. Absolutely. Yeah. Being like following up on this.

4:12Beat bop. Yeah. Robot city right now. But no, I'm feeling I'm loving Reddit. Yeah. So now if I have like a question about my car, I'll tape it in. Okay. Hell yeah. You will also see on this episode, Angela's personal YouTube channel will be tagged. It will be collaborated upon our girl right now. I want to like see I want to see what this can do okay our girl right now has 163 subscribers if you are an Angela fan please go over there you're so sweet for this you know what this feels like this feels like when an older sister like brings a kid like I'm going like my freshman year of YouTube starts tomorrow and you're like meet my teachers they all love me you're my sister and they're like oh my god you look alike and you're like, yeah, she's like, she's, that's so sweet of you.

5:02Thank you. No, I'm just so excited for you. And you're working on so much cool stuff. You have a podcast, artists on artists, like you don't plug yourself enough. And I, I am not joking. Like I'm in a crash out day today and literally 12 hours ago, not like 24, 24, 20. I think it was last night. It was last night. So it's like, it's still 4 PM. Like right now I texted you and I was like, is there any chance you're available tomorrow. And you were like, yeah, after four, after four. But that's when you know your pod is easy and fun for me. And that's you. Because I, if it was like, I have to be funny and cool and awesome and hot.

5:39I was like, I'm just going to sit on that chair, kick my feet up and we're just going to talk. Quit being so nice. I'm trying to give you your flowers. Thank you. Collabbed. She literally saved my life. I had someone cancel and short notice is the hero and comes in and is going to make sure this episode just really blows us all out of the water. You're so sweet. I can't wait for Luda. Luda. Let's dive in.

6:41We're going to start off a little light. Okay. And then we're going to go hard. Let's have like a salad first. Okay. This first one is coming from Relationship Advice, three days old, titled, How can I, 33 male, stop making my boyfriend, 36 male, jealous of my fish for female. Fish. Fish. Me and my boyfriend have been together for three years. Everything has been relatively good. Recently, my boyfriend has been getting jealous that I talk more to my fish after work than him. I've had the fish longer than we've been together, and I always talk to my fish after work. The talking to fish is literally just a way I decompress after work.

7:26I just rant to my fish about things that happened throughout the day. Usually it's stuff my boyfriend doesn't want to hear. Usually it's just a 15 to 20 minute one-sided conversation. Yeah, it should be. I hope. I really hope. Over the last two weeks, he's gotten annoyed that immediately after getting home, I usually stand in front of the fish tank and mostly just rant. Today, I decided to, instead of ranting to my fish, just sit on the couch and rant to him. And he mostly ignored me and watched TV and even got upset a few times that I was talking about things that didn't matter while he was watching TV.

8:07He doesn't want to listen to me after work or want me talking to my fish. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I will say our Our relationship has been fine the past two weeks, other than him getting upset about me talking to the fish. We still talk to each other about stuff. He just doesn't want to hear about my work day. And I don't blame him. Wait, so he's jealous of the fish, but he doesn't want to hear about his day? Yeah. So he wants the attention, but he doesn't want to hear about his partner? Is that what's happening? No, I think I'm wrong. I think I misheard it. I think I need to walk in.

8:40No, you heard it right. Like, you can't talk to your fish and also shut the fuck up. I don't want to hear you vent about your work day. So OP like wants to decompress. By talking to their fish. Which is so sweet. But then when the partner feels jealous, so then OP is like, okay, I'll tell you. The partner doesn't want to hear it? No, he's watching TV. Can you imagine how like dejected you would feel too? You come home after a work day. You just want to connect with your partner. Fine. You don't want me to talk to the fish. Fine. So you go sit by them on the couch and you're like, hey, babe, how was your day?

9:18Well, my day, you know, Wendy like was really mean to me at work. She like spit in my coffee and he's just watching TV. Shut up. could you imagine i i tell this story a lot i actually dated a guy i was like 23 and he i remember like he cooked it was the first time he cooked and we had a lasagna and we sat down crazy to cook a girl lasagna i don't know it was just like a hefty lasagna and i was like i can have two bites of this it's gonna ruin me so then i started eating this lasagna and he has the tv on and it was like Seinfeld and I was like oh my god I love this episode Kramer does this and he's like I actually kind of like to just watch it while we eat and like not really talk so shut up essentially this is brutal though why am I here though truly also we'll talk after the episode and then he finished turned the TV off finished his lawn and he went alright he patted his stomach patted his stomach and said alright you can go now no it was kind of like alright what do you want to do now now that I had TV time and bottle time I can't imagine no it was awful okay so this is sad because I'm really I know multiple fish just one fish four four female four female fish four they gave the the age and the gender of the fish you were going one fish four female so four fish no one fish four female and I go what are you talking I thought you've been on Reddit more.

10:58You're right. It's age, gender. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. This is so sad. I don't like that the partner's jealous. That feels wrong. It feels weird. It feels like such a controlling little thing. Like, I fit in my box and don't talk to your fish. People talk to their pets all the time. Like, it's no different than talking to your dog or your cat. Fish have feelings too. I bet it looks like more intentional because cats and dogs kind of move. So I bet the partner is like, the OP is like sitting there and just like intentionally looking at the fish and just kind of talking instead of like on a walk with your dog talking.

11:36This feels like attention that the fish is getting. But if the partner doesn't want to hang, he shouldn't be mad that the fish is getting the hang. I know. Well, and I just Googled, do fish understand humans? Because I'm just curious what this looks like. Yeah. Fish can understand and recognize humans to a surprising degree. Learning to distinguish individuals through visual cues like colors, patterns, associating specific people to feeding and other experiences. They show cognitive abilities beyond what was once believed. They can learn routines, recognize caregivers. Not routines! Form special bonds.

12:12Routine within your little bowl. Yeah, so it's like he comes home every day after work, probably feeds the little fish. And that's when he gets FaceTime. Four female gets FaceTime. It's literally FaceTime. That's, okay, wow. I don't blame OP for being upset because that's, it feels like a little ritual too. It feels almost like journaling. Like I'm not trying to like act like the fish isn't hearing it because it does sound like the fish can like respond a little bit. But this is also just feels like meditative and like kind of just like a release. It is so similar to journaling. It's venting, you're processing your day and talking about how it went.

12:50And it's like for him to let out his day and hear it from his point of view. This is so I know a lot of people are gonna be like, it's just talking to a fish, you guys. And I really don't think it is, though. I think it's his routine. Yeah. And I think just the way the partner's treating him, I'm just like, this doesn't feel like respect. I think jealousy is so interesting because like when someone's jealous of something, it's because they feel like they're not getting something. Right. So it's like if that partner wants more attention. then I understand the feeling of like, please talk to me instead of your fish.

13:24Yeah. If it's like, please stop talking to your fish, but stop talking to me. That's just control. So you just want me to not talk? Yeah. Ever? Top comment, LOL, LOL, LOL, at the fish age and gender defined. And the next comment, and the way he described their conversation as one-sided. I like how to do a double take. I'm like, did I read that right? I know it was like a funny thing, but we were like, huh? Have you ever seen the movie? It's like this fish movie. Finding Nemo, yeah. That one's good. It's like really old timey. I think it's in black and white. It's like the guy's name is Mr. Limpet and he turns into a fish because he wants to be a fish.

14:03No. Ariel? Male Ariel? Basically. Yeah. Wow. He like turns into a fish. Because he just wants to be it. Yeah, he like stands on a dock every day looking at the fish as he feeds them and then he's like, I want to be a fish and he accidentally turns into, gets, I don't know, magic happens. I'm gonna, I think you should watch it. Yeah, send it to me. Might give you some like some creative juices or something. Someone else goes, I talked to my goldfish about my day and ask him if he's been a good boy. Silly question. He's always a good boy. Much better behaved than a cat. Someone does share something I did not need to see, but I saw it, so you all have to.

14:40One of the fish reddits, someone posted for help because their cat vomited directly into their fish tank. And did the fish eat it? I don't know. That's disgusting I ask that. I had a fish problem where I had a fish disappear. Disappear. And then I reddited it and googled it and did a lot of research. And it was a fish from a movie I was in and I was like, oh, can I keep the fish? It was like a prop. And they're like, yes, you can get it. It was like a real fish. And then I went out of town and I just think the fish jumped to its escape Is what Google told me But didn't you find a fish body Outside of the tank somewhere I looked everywhere You know what that tells you You had mice or rats in your apartment Or wherever you were living Because they came for the fish So the fish probably jumped And then some disgusting rat My old apartment, not my new apartment Came in and probably That makes more sense I keep thinking the fish jumped out of the window and then started a new life.

15:46Yeah. No. You didn't have a cat or anything, right? No. No. My roommate had a cat.

15:56Okay, so yes, we figured it out. Okay. That thing got eaten. Yeah, that thing got eaten. By cat or rat. Yeah. I saw a rat the other day right above my head. It was in a tree, and I'm like, they're so gross. I'm so sorry for people that love rats. No, you're allowed to love mice. You can't love rats. Mice freak me out too. And I know I like appreciate all of the studies with rats. They've really helped advance science and rat park is cool. They give us a lot of data. But damn, like they're just so gross. I feel that way about crows. See, I love a raven. Is a crow a raven? They're similar looking but different.

16:34Yeah. I don't like birds. What about a parrot? No. I'm bad at wings. Is it the flapping that gets you? Yeah. Do butterflies mess you up too? No, because they don't bother me. Hmm. Like wings and birds, it kind of freaks me out. Did you see Birds by Alfred Hitchcock very young? I must have. Because I can't figure out where the fear comes from, but yeah. That, 100%. Okay, moving on to this next one. Coming from Relationship Advice, it's titled, How do I, female 24, deal with being a housewife after my husband, male 31, called me dead weight? Whew!

17:20Okay. I've been married for almost a year. I am the housewife and I take care of the cooking, cleaning, laundry, etc. I would say I'm a good one. I often go above and beyond and make my husband happy. He's from a different culture too, so I've learned how to cook his food and do many things his way. My husband works a tech job and goes into the office once a week. His job isn't very demanding, and most of the time he is at home and playing video games or watching YouTube or working on projects for his hobbies. We are very well off based on just his income. We made an agreement before getting married that this would be our dynamic, but that he would still help me.

18:02He reassured me he wouldn't be the tyrant kind of husband. He does help sometimes, which is nice, but I still ask for help here and there. A couple of months ago, we made an agreement that he would help me with cleaning up after I made food, as I really hate that part. Today, after I made lunch, I jokingly said, quote, good luck with cleanup, because there was a lot of pots. However, he started getting upset and told me that this is my job and not his. He said he worked so hard his whole life, which is why he has the job that he currently has, and how it's not his fault that I have a job as a housewife.

18:43This was hurtful because he doesn't really respect women who work and doesn't take them seriously either. It's like no matter what I do, I can never earn his respect. I feel like a weird toxic boss slash employee relationship. He told me it's up to him when he will help me. He will decide, not me. He told me to shut up and do my job. Our argument escalated and I tried to explain our initial agreement, but he started getting more disrespectful. I also got disrespectful too. He started saying how I have a pointless degree and I never finish anything in life, which is why I have the job of a housewife.

19:26I felt disrespected and underappreciated. The argument got really bad to the point where he called me a whore and that he could get any woman he wants and that any woman would be extremely happy with being his housewife. Luna! He called me dead weight and useless. Well, look at him go, Morgan. Those words killed me. It really hurt, and I've been crying for hours now. I did call him an asshole and slammed the door a couple of times. I don't know how to survive in this dynamic. I tried my best to explain myself and our agreements, but he didn't want to listen and just wanted to fight. He blamed it on me being on my period.

20:15He also said— Shut the fuck up. It says that? Uh-huh. Yeah, he also blamed it on me being on my period. you're so hormonal. He also just said a lot of lies, like that he does everything in our home. I know how hard I work though. My husband is generally a very good guy. I don't think so. Especially with my family and his family. He spoils me with nice things, but it quickly feels pointless when arguments like this happen. I just want to be appreciated and respected and understood. I was wondering if other housewives have some advice. Thank you. This poor thing. Drop a pin, girl. We'll come get you.

21:00Drop a motherfucking pin. Apple Maps. I love when you do that. Apple Maps, baby. Literally slide into my freaking DMs. I'm there tonight. You're a whore. You're useless. You're dead weight. You're being a bitch because you're on your period. This is not even like He didn't say bitch but you know Read between the lines I mean it all comes out in the bath water I can't get over this The period thing really Really And this is when she was like good luck with the dishes There's too many pots and then this all started Uh huh

21:40This woman I feel so bad this is so So clearly Just abuse and that sucks. Yeah. And that's not okay. And she doesn't deserve that. No, and I think a lot of people forget, like, abuse doesn't, it's not just physical. Yeah. He's also holding money over her head. So we've got financial abuse. Like, it sounds like she has a degree, but isn't working and, like, isn't using it. Yeah, and the clocking in part is really worrisome to me, where it's like, when he needs her, she'll say something. Like, what did he say? He was like, there's sometimes when he asks for it or doesn't, like the cleanup of it all yeah that to me is very um a power dynamic that he's using via finances and whatever yeah to act like she's an employee of him there's no mention of kids either which i'm like please actually like don't no kids yeah like so it's she can like actually get out and just kind of have a clean break from him because kids as magical and special as they are like if you are stuck with someone like this and you have to then try to leave with kids and then co-parent Like, no, it's going to be so much messier.

22:45But it's like crazy because I understand in a world in which you're being isolated by your partner that like bringing a kid in makes you feel like you'll have somebody because she's in such a lonely place. So like I almost get it. But it will be so. It's like so it's like a survival mechanism, but it won't be good. No. She's got to get out. I'm like their age gap is she's 24. He's 31. Seven years. No. Yeah. OK. God. And what did he say? He thinks he could get anybody? Oh, anyone would be happy to be his housewife. I can't even imagine. Do you just want a maid? Do you just want a personal cook?

23:26Yeah, I went, like, I think personal connection and services are two separate things to you. I think you're looking for a service. It's insane. The one line that really kind of messed me up, too, and I do think the top comment picks up on it. it does so they quote op because he doesn't really respect women who work and doesn't take them seriously either it's like no matter what i do i can never earn his respect and the person responds and says their own thing and they go this is because spoiler alert he doesn't respect women period he doesn't yep he doesn't respect you because he can't because he doesn't see you or any woman as a real person.

24:09So leave. It will not get better. I guarantee that. He does not respect you because he doesn't respect women. I mean, yeah. And I don't think he respects other people. I don't even think it feels like a gender thing to me. It feels like a power thing. It feels like a power dynamic and this guy gets off on that or whatever. No, I don't think he gets off on anything. I don't think this guy's had sex in years. I think this guy's backed up. Honestly, I think that's probably why he went for a 24-year-old, because that's the only person he could probably convince to sleep with him. Really? Morgan? Oh, God, this guy sucks.

24:43And you're 24. Sucks, sucks, sucks. Prime of your life, baby. Oh, my God. She hasn't even hit, like, 27. That was the craziest year for me. 24 to, like, 28 was so elite. 24 to 28 feels like 50 years. It's only a couple, but it is, like, you— that's, that's, she has so much life ahead of her. I know. I turned 32 in a month and I'm just like, to be 24 again, four score and five years ago. Doesn't it feel like preschool? Yeah. We were like, the shit I ate, the shit I did. The shit I did. Like me and my friends, like it was bad. It was, we just don't need to go there. It was so fun. I'm so sad for her that she's in a relationship at that young of an age that makes her feel like she's not respected because there's the sky is the limit, babe.

25:35You could be respected and not have to clean that pot. And you can make those snarky comments sometimes. And it's not going to be like a I'm not going to pay for you or whatever he's doing. Yeah. No, this is a great lesson to learn. You're 24. You get divorced. You go and use your degree or you go back to school and finish it or whatever is going on here. And And you go and you live and experience life and find your person who treats you well and respects you and loves you. Yeah. And you're not stuck with this guy the rest of your life. And like you can now proceed forward with this experience in mind knowing, oh, didn't love that.

26:14You're going to avoid those guys. Yeah. Like you'll be more in tune. Yeah. Your partner being in love, being in a marriage should be one of the greatest parts of life. Like it should be like I was talking to my friend about dating and she was like, it should at least be fun. And I was like, you forget that it should bring joy. And I know a lot of those things are hard work. Dating is hard. But like being with your partner, eating lunch, cooking lunch for him, and then cleaning up after, whether it's him or you, should at least be nice and pleasant. At the bare minimum. At the bare minimum. Bars in hell.

26:49You should enjoy eating lunch with him. And at the bare minimum, you should feel respected. Barely. just, oh my God. I know my relationship is not perfect. We fight. Everyone should fight. Yeah. But like just the peace I feel in this relationship, like I just can't even imagine having to walk on eggshells or just literally I get cortisol from everything else. Not my relationship. I know the world is already too scary. You should, your home base. Yeah. Eating lunch in your kitchen should feel peaceful or at least supported. I know. Literally, Justin got me like a foot massager for Christmas and he then bought himself the little compression leg boots from Costco.

27:37They were on sale for like 180 bucks. You guys just sit next to each other and take care of your feet? He's got his little compression boots on. I got my feet and my massager and we just sit there and we watch Impractical Jokers and we're just hanging. I'm like, just, just respect, babe. At least. Oh, yeah. This, this next one too. Not respectful. Awesome. Not, not respectful. I will say OP has deleted her account. No update. No comments I'm seeing from OP. A lot of people are just like, please get out. The only way to keep one's self-respect in a situation like this is to leave. He'll continue disrespecting her and treating her like dirt if she stays.

28:26She has a degree. She can earn her keep. Also, you don't even need a degree. No. You don't need to have a degree to be respected in your relationship. You don't even need that. No. You can earn your keep in so many other ways. It does not matter. I know. Yeah. A lot of people are like, OP, run! And then like red flag emojis. It'd be fun if they made a bigger red flag emoji. Have you seen that little guy run around with his flag? Yes. I've tried to get him on, but he's too busy running. God, that's good. I know. That you even tried. That's good. I did try. But it'd be fun if they have like for the girlies in the chat to be like red flag, but then big red flag.

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29:06Jumbo. Or like a red flag with the face that's like. Did you know, I think you can like send like emojis loud. Like if you hold the thing down. Oh yeah. You can like pick your effects. Yes. You could send an emoji quietly. Like you can do the, oh, quietly. Did you know you can schedule send text now? No. You can schedule send a text? Yeah. So if you like, it's 1 a.m. and you're like, oh my God, I want to text this person. But if by the morning you'll forget about it, you can schedule send messages now. Oh my God. The type A girlies are losing it. Me. I'm like, I'll send it when I send it. Oh no.

29:43I tried to operate like that and then it would be a week later and I'd be like, oops. But then when you schedule send it, are you doing it like. sometimes when I schedule send an email and I'm like it's gonna look psychotic when this email pops up at 8am 8-0-0 well you can pick whatever time you want I go like 8-0-5 yeah no that's totally fine that's kosher that's kosher wow okay the more you know the more you know this one hmm womp womp oh no okay it's coming from r slash what do I do kind of another just looking for advice. Drop a pin. Genuinely don't know what's going on. Okay. Please help.

30:25And it's only a day old. So very, very fresh. It's titled, My husband gave me a 5 out of 10. I'm losing my mind. I've posted here before about my husband's terrible communication skills. How he completely shuts down after arguments, gives me the silent treatment for days. and makes me question if he's even still invested in this marriage. A lot of the people commented that he might be emotionally withdrawing from the relationship. Well, today, something happened that's making me wonder if they were right. Last night at dinner, I jokingly asked my husband to rate me on a scale from 1 to 10. I expected him to say something like, you're a 10 to me, because that's what I would have said to him.

31:14What happened next blindsided me. He looked at me seriously, scanning my face, and said, quote, right now, maybe a five. I must have looked shocked because he quickly followed up with, quote, but when you're naked, you're a full 10. Fuck off. The damage was already done. He now insists that it was just a joke, but I don't believe him. His tone was serious, the same tone he uses when he's being brutally honest about other things. And how do other people see me if my own loving husband rates me as a 5? I know I have low self-esteem, but I never make it anyone else's problem, especially not my husband's.

32:02I don't ask for reassurance or compliments. I've never asked anyone to rate me before. This was supposed to be playful. Now, I don't know what to think. Is he being honest and trying to communicate, and I'm just overreacting and need to work on my own insecurities? Or is this another sign that he doesn't want to love me anymore? Just like the emotional shutdowns and cold shoulders. I'm seriously considering divorce at this point. I can't tell if we need better communication or if this marriage is already over. That's the end of it? That's the end. Oh! God. Where's the bat? Where's the fucking bat?

32:45Beyonce, Lemonade, let's just... He scanned my face and then said five. It wouldn't, if it would have been just like, I don't even, like a five. Dude, read the room. He shouldn't even scan. That's my thing. No, he... He should just immediately. Ten, babe. Even like, I don't know, like anything, like an eight, nine, like to say a five. If he said an eight, I would tell her run. I'm not kidding. An eight is, I mean, anything is bad, but it's just like the fact that he did scan and he was like genuinely like giving her a once over to like compute the numbers. I don't even want to like spend too much time on it.

33:28But the naked comment that when you're naked, you're a 10. That is demeaning her to only her body and only what her body does. And that's bat worthy. It's super bad. I mean, that is bad. It's also like, I'll say there's something interesting where she said like when she asked she was being playful. But I almost think like it is a playful ask. But I almost wonder if she's asking that because she's not feeling like she's being treated like a five. I think it's subconscious. Yes. When she asked that, she's like, what do you really think? You know, like when your body subconsciously asks things. Because you're like, I feel like I'm being treated like I'm a five out of ten.

34:08and she's almost like, what do you, and then he said it. No, her gut is already telling her like something's up. He's checking out. Obviously she went to Reddit and posted something else, which I tried to go to her account and see what the other post was titled, but she has her posts hidden. So you can't just like look it up easily. I'm trying to Google it based on her username, but nothing's popping up. But the fact she's already posting and saying these things, like you are getting a read so for this it's just like she just wanted like a check in like she's never badgered him about am I attractive what do you think I am do you love me like there's no badgering and so to kind of do this one time and to be met with such disdain five and then the degrading comment but when you're naked that's like that oh that horrible horrible comment that traditionally men will use, but calling someone a butter face?

35:11Yes. Horrible. No, it's awful. It's awful being like, well, if it comes with tits, then I like it. But the face, I don't know. Butter face. My lip just curled. I know, it felt disgusting to even play as a character. But like, oh my God, I feel so bad for her. I hate that she had a five. Oh my God. If, honestly, if he said nine out of ten, I'd slap him. I wouldn't hurt somebody. I'd just say a ten. Like, you know the trope. It's like that freaking trend where it's like, would you love me if I'm a worm? Yeah. Yeah, of course, babe. It's kind of a test. Don't be daft. Like, literally. I know this doesn't make sense, but that's like a teacher being like, do you want an A or an F?

36:00Like, there's a clear winning answer. It's not like she's actually asking his opinion. There's a way that he can make her feel valued and loved. There's a way to win. Just win. Literally, it's so easy. Just say 10. And I think you just saw the real him. Yeah. I think the mask slipped a little bit and he wasn't quick enough to be like, oh, this is a test. What is she asking me? He just genuinely had a gut response. And I think you just saw the real him and what he actually thinks of you. And it's crazy that sometimes your, like, subconscious will say something because it's like, I have this deep, dark fear that's in the back of my brain.

36:40Yeah. And I'm just going to start saying things to, like, test that. Yeah. And then she got a clear answer. Like, I understand I feel like a 5 out of 10 all the time. Even if you feel that way, doesn't mean your partner should say that. I don't know. I just don't feel like you should ever be with someone that's going to say that to your face. No. No. I'm in my bloat era right now. Oh. I'm just like I'm a little fluffy I'm fluffy I'm fluffy every day yeah went through the holidays I made 500 cookies with my grandma I ate too many of them you made 500 oh we bake we bake girl we bake I'm fluffy one week out of the every month yeah luteal that shit fucks you up it's like scientifically proven that you actually like your brain you feel and look uglier during your luteal phase there's some crazy stuff that's coming out whoa yeah yeah and like I'm fluffy and like this was literally my wedding vows where I'm like Justin's like the first person I've dated and been with that's like ever made me feel beautiful and so like I have my days where I'm just feeling insecure I'm not feeling great and I will go to him and I'm just like I'm just like not feeling the greatest today I feel kind of like insecure in my head and I'm just like I'm like you love me right and I ask him and I'm like I okay I get how that could be kind of annoying but it's just like I just need that reassurance he's like of course like come here but that's like that's you like bringing to someone you trust a like lie in your brain that society is giving you I'm like reality checking yes I don't think it's you being too much or doing too much yeah I think it's you just saying like oh my brain is telling me to not love myself right now and I'm just gonna say it out loud you love me though right my brain I don't but like yeah And I think that's almost what this kind of felt like.

38:26And I think that's why I relate a little bit where I'm just like, God, she just wanted to feel special in the eyes of her husband. Because again, she kind of said that line where it's like, if he thinks I'm a five, God damn, what does everyone else think about me? I almost think the opposite. Whereas I'm like, similar to you, I naturally am a little more insecure than I think is like real. Oh, I'm my own worst critic. Truly. 100%. I know that. If I'm going to think I'm a five, I need my partner to at least remind me that I'm not a five. You're like 12, 13. 50. 22. 157. Infinity. Limitless. For a female.

39:06Like anything. Like you at least need someone to kind of fact check you and go, hey, I love you. You're beautiful. Bare minimum. I know. I, God, I saw a story. I saved it. and now I can't find it. I need to find it again. But it was like my whole TV, like it's your whole laptop just saved stories. You see my two windows of just tabs. I find them all myself. I know that. But where do you save? You save them as tabs. Yeah. And then I save them on my Reddit account under like saved. And then I also now find them on Instagram and I create folders on Instagram. Okay. So that's been really helpful, honestly.

39:47I'm sorry. I interrupted you though. What were you saying? Oh, but I came across this story and it was like my husband squeezed my belly and like called me chunky or something. Or my wife like squeezed my stomach and called me chunky during sex. And I was like, the way I would have got dressed, got my keys, got in my car, went for a long drive and cried to Enya. I would have needed medication. It's just, to me, it's not even what they say. It's just having a partner that isn't supportive is just going to be really tough. Fluffy's good, fluffy's bad, whatever. It's just support. It's like supporting yourself.

40:35And like when you feel bad, having someone that makes you feel like it's okay. I know. Top comment. would you honestly describe this man as your loving husband? No. No. And then they go on to say, I haven't read your previous posts. And the person after says, I just found some dot, dot, dot, dot, dot. She should call a lawyer and some close friends. And now I'm like, God, what are these previous posts? No, no. Here's your close friends. We're here. Go. Run away. Again. Get out. Okay. So I searched within the subreddit. Yeah. Searched the username. There's a post from them. How do you handle a spouse who completely shuts down after every argument?

41:26My spouse and I rarely fight, but when we do, it becomes a multi-day cold war. I hate stonewalling. Yeah. Some people grew up in households like that, where when there was arguments, it was like, we're not talking. that's not good that's so hard that's so hard yeah that seems like the the big one I'm not seeing anything else pop up from this this person that's that's unfortunate time to go I think I think it's time to go I think the same little voice in you that was like I'm gonna ask him what he thinks of my face or my appearance and put it to a number that means if you're looking for a numeric value in your partner, I don't think you're feeling trusted or respected at all.

42:13No, I'd be like, on a scale of one to 10, how likely are we to get divorced? Because for me, it's a 10. I go, so, okay, so you said five out of 10. So on a scale of one to 10, what did you think I would think when you said five out of 10? That doesn't make any sense. You call me five out of 10. What do you think that is? That's a one out of 10. You calling me a five out of 10. 50 %? It's 50%. Like five out of 10. But naked, you're a 10. He said 10 out of 10. Could you imagine this? But naked, six out of 10. I'd kill him. I'm not a violent person. I don't usually resort to violence, surprisingly, because I often joke like, We're making jokes about grabbing the bat and stuff.

42:55Yeah. But like, actually, like I want him to like try to climb over a barbed wire fence and get stuck. I used to walk dogs. Were you a rover walker? No, I was a dog hiker. for like a big company. Wow. And we would hike like a lot of dogs every morning. Oh my God, Cesar Millan over there. Yeah. And I remember when my friends would tell me about their shitty boyfriends, I'd be like, I will throw dog shit at his car. I have so much access to dog shit. That is such a good petty revenge. I still think about it where I'm like, Oh, because dog shit smells horrible. Oh, and I'll throw it. I can just see just like in the bag of course no I can see you getting like a slingshot and just like literally launching so then it like has force like real force and when you're a dog walker you're dealing with dog shit every day oh and you probably walked some big dogs some big dogs and I'm like I'm putting it on your tires I'm putting it everywhere I'm putting it next to the door of your car so when you step to get in your car, you step in it.

44:06People are genuinely disgusting. If you don't pick up your dog's shit, I don't think you should have the right to own a dog. I think you should get a ticket. You should get a ticket. I was walking through, um, like a building the other day. Someone's like condo building where they pay HOAs and their HOAs aren't cheap. Walking through, I get out of the elevator and I go up the steps to go to the front door. Big pile of dog shit, just in the middle of the steps. In the elevator? No, on the steps. On the steps, just like in, but within the condo building. And I almost stepped in it. And I'm like, you know your dog just shit.

44:38They stop. Even if you're not paying attention, the leash gives a little jerk. You look behind. You're like, oh, sorry, buddy. There's no way that shit came out and you didn't see it. And you didn't go to your condo and go get a little baggie or whatever and pick it up. I literally called my friend and he's like on the little HOA thing. And I was like, you need to, you need to go after them. I go, you got to look at the cameras and you, everyone, It's going to get written in your little HOA rules that if you own a pet in this building, everyone is DNA testing their dog's shit so that you can bill people based on them and leaving their shit around.

45:11Go, girl. This is done. Oh, yeah. Or like, you should find who that is. Get that dog shit put in front of their door. That's a lot easier. It's a little revengeful. But dog shit all over him saying any of that stuff. I know. Sorry, that was disgusting. No, I one time put horse shit on someone's car in high school. That's a horse girl. That's the horse girl that's Morgan. I know. You took. I scooped it up in a red Solo cup and then dumped it on top of their car. Yeah. They were mean. See, I think it's harmless because you can like it's your car. It's not like your body or like your clothes. I got banned from McDonald's for a while when I was in high school because I started talking to this guy.

46:01He was a piece of shit. But his ex-girlfriend, like, started harassing me and she worked at McDonald's. So I went through, ordered an ice cream cone from her, and then I put it on her car. Two really good Morgan stories just sandwiched together. I don't know if I've told people this. It's been like five years. You put the cone down on her car? Yeah, and then McDonald's banned me on the windshield. How did they ban you? The messiest place for it. You can't come back here ever again. But then me and her became friends. And then once we were friends, because we realized he was playing both of us, then we became friends and I was unbanned from McDonald's.

46:39Being banned from a McDonald's is pretty crazy. Yeah. But to this day, and I don't know what the math would be with interest, because we did kind of have an agreement. She owes me like$600 because I flew her to Kentucky and took her to a Justin Bieber concert with her, with me. And then she never paid me back. So if you're out there, Lindsay, I'd like my money. At least a$600 in McDonald's gift cards. I know. Because you were banned from the McDonald's because of her. No, because of him. Yeah. Like it was his fault. He was a bad boy. You flew her to see a Justin Bieber concert? Yeah. You have a big heart.

47:18Where's your 600 bucks? Pay me. Jerry Maguire, where's the money? Show me the money. Where's the money? I'm just, I'm dishing tea. I'm loving that. Do you remember coning? O 'Brien? It was like a thing. No. Coning? O 'Brien? No, I grew up in church, so maybe it was a church thing. Coning? You would go through McDonald's, ask for a, like a scoop of ice cream. Okay. Like an ice cream cone. Yeah. and then we thought it was so funny you'd go through then you'd go to the window that gives it to you she has it like this she's holding the cone or the person's holding the cone and you grab it from the top and you walk away and for some reason it was the funniest thing in the world because people didn't know what to do and so you'd see their faces but it was just a mess for us do you remember planking?

48:09yes planking was so crazy that was crazy I also really miss the Harlem Shake I know we need like a dance similar to it because that felt like a fun like um it was such a good wiggle and you just let your arms go those are so pre-tik-tok because I don't know if they would survive in a tik-tok world no I miss the dog filter like the 2016 throwback trend or you're throwing up uh rainbow yeah you're like everything about it I was like god 2016 was so good it was good I'm so glad for the resurgence because when you bring it back yeah We need to live just lightheartedly again. I know. And just like dress like shit.

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50:51Okay. This is coming from Am I Overreacting? Eight days old, titled, Am I Overreacting? My girlfriend left me over a cheese wheel. Mm-hmm. Okay. I, 27 male, and my girlfriend, 26 female, were saving for a house payment. I work and she is unemployed. I have saved$32 ,000 and she has saved$4 ,000. So I feel like I bear the brunt of the financial decision making here. I was doing the Oxford County Cheese Trail and I found a Volt release. They were selling a 140-pound wheel of 21-year-old cheddar. It was aged using a traditional cloth-bound method that's practically extinct here in Canada. And with over 21 years, it is extremely concentrated.

51:4721-year-old cheddar often sells for about$120 a pound. The farm was selling the entire wheel for$18 ,500. If I cut it into 200 gram wedges and I sell it at$60 each, I can make$38 ,000. I bought the cheese wheel and I brought it home in my truck. When I rolled it into our apartment, at first she was excited. When I started to explain the financials and investment potential, she turned sour. She didn't yell, but expressed she wasn't happy about how I spent my share of our house savings. She is now staying with her parents. I think she's overreacting because she doesn't understand the Canadian housing market.

52:34Our savings is not enough for a down payment without ridiculous mortgage, and we need to take these opportunities. Am I overreacting or am I the only one with ambition in our relationship? Oof. To make the cheese about ambition. I know. But I guess I get it. The cheese is just the Iranian yogurt in this. Yeah. Have you heard that story? What would you do if you were with someone? Okay. And they spent$18 ,500 on a wheel of cheese? This is tough too because I would lose my mind. I'd be like, are you kidding me? I know. Are you going to go to a farmer's market every weekend for the next year? This feels like a huge investment.

53:23He's a cheese dealer now. This feels like a new job. Yeah. Like you got a little bit of a fixer-upper something. This is going to take time and effort. Yeah. I mean, have you ever tried to sell anything on Facebook Marketplace? It's not easy. That's so chooka-chooka. It's not easy. And they sell cheese on there. They actually sell sourdough starters on there. I've messaged people to go buy their sourdough starters. But not cheese. Cheese feels a little, I don't know. This is, what, did he have an interest in cheese before? No mention. Crazy question. I've never said it all. No mention. I think the randomness of this.

54:06Like for your partner to just be like, I threw down major money. Almost 20 grand. On cheese. On cheese. What if it went bad? Like it's 21 years old. What if it like went bad? I would be like, do you know what you're doing? Like do you have the ability, like do you know farmer's markets? Do you know, like have you sold anything? Like what is the. It seems like you need to have a little bit of like cheese literacy to get started. It feels like you do need some cheese literacy. Like, yeah. And I don't blame the partner for being really alarmed. And like, yeah, I guess Reddit's funny with the titles where they're like, someone left me over cheese.

54:50It's about the cheese. And you're like, no, it's about the almost 20 grand. Yeah. And the fact you didn't consult her when it is both of your money. and I get you've put most of it in there, but it's still like a community fund now. So you guys buy a house and if you're looking to buy a house, then you're pretty serious. So maybe have a conversation before you just buy the cheese. I've never like gone into funds with somebody like when you're like molding lives. And I imagine it's kind of tricky because it's like, you don't need to ask permission. It's your money. Yeah. But then there is an unspoken thing that you guys are saving up for something.

55:25Yeah. So it's tricky, I bet. Very. And I think the best method is you each have your own accounts and then you have one joint account that you purposefully put like a specified amount in there. That makes sense. Or this is our mortgage payment or this is any kid related stuff. Like this is our joint account. Yeah. So then in this case, he would have used his fund to go buy the cheese, not their joint. Yes. And then you'd be like, you do you, boo. You spend your money how you want it. Right. Like that makes sense. Yeah. Like how you hear so many stories about like people with gambling problems using their family money.

56:01Yeah. And this is like cheese, right? So. Which it feels, I mean, it's kind of the same concept. He's gambling, but it's on cheese. And I can imagine this is even kind of scarier because it's not as something as like understanding as like, oh, you put in this money, you'll get it back. Or like, oh, you're like investing in some type of property or something. You're investing in like cheese. Also, this is 140 pounds of cheese. I couldn't even tell you what that is. It's my size in cheese. I didn't think about our bodies in cheese. Like, where are you putting this? That's a lot of cheese. Doesn't cheese need to be kept in a fridge?

56:43Yeah. And fridge is cost money. Or a cold cellar, you know? And then how do you, like, package that? This is so interesting that it's cheese. It's so weird. Top comment. Start slicing and selling and then come and update us. LOL. Yeah, honestly. How could you make that money back? Now I'm thinking about my body and cheese and I'm thinking about slicing it. And I can't even imagine making more than 10 grand off of those slices. This comment actually kind of does some math for us, which I really appreciate. They go, I'd be surprised if he actually sold it. The fact that he thinks he can find 300 plus people willing to pay$60 for 200 grams of cheese in this economy is insane.

57:35And even then, the math doesn't add up. $60 for cheese. 300 plus people. That's hard. Okay, I love this comment because now I can understand that this is pretty bonkers. I would have probably broken up with him. I would have took my money out of the account and been like, have fun with your cheese, bro. I would have been like worried about his brain. He'd be like, hey, we good? Hey, babe, we just bought a lot of cheese. Is everything okay? Overnight, too. So a lot of people started questioning this post. Okay. As we do with Reddit. As we do. A lot of people were like, this isn't real. Okay, sure.

58:22Ha ha, funny man. Okay. But OP. Post the cheese. Post some pictures for us. Shut up! Shut up! This person does everything they can to make sure we know that this is real. They post the receipt of the cheese and the fact that it cost. A printed receipt. $18 ,400 in Canadian money from the Oxford County, Ontario, Canada cheese place. I've never even seen like a store receipt like that for that much money. Thank you. Never in my life. That looks like you went to 7-Eleven and spent$18 ,000. I mean, it looks like a liquor store receipt. It literally does. Quantity, one, 18 ,400. 21-year-old heritage cheddar wheel, 140 pounds.

59:15Quantity, one cheese. And I know AI exists, okay? No, but that's real. So OP goes further. OP then posts a picture of the cheese wheel. You know those Baby Bell, Baby Cow, like the little red? It looks like a robot. Red cow? Red Bell? I think it's Baby Bell, yeah. Baby Bell. And it comes in that little red wax. I literally didn't even like the taste of the cheese. I just wanted to feel included in like elementary school. The wax is fun. Because the cool kids had the bell cheese. Yeah. So I got it. And it almost has like a black wax around this big cylindrical cheese thing. This looks like a robot for listeners.

59:54It has the date that this cheese was made on it. And then because people were like, yeah, okay, whatever. She put her username next to it. Put the username in the picture. She's like, guys, he bought the cheese. So I'm thinking this is pretty legit. Just going to say, people still, like, again, it wasn't enough for people. So they're like asking everything. They're like, prove it. Like open it. Eat the cheese. Let's see it. Someone took the picture of the cheese block that OP posted, ran it through an AI image detector, and it said not likely to be AI generated or deepfake. There's a 1 % chance that it's AI generated.

1:00:43When people do that, is that AI? I've always wondered that. I don't understand anything that's happening right now, to be honest. It almost feels like the AI police is AI. Yeah. We're on the lookout for AI. And we're going to put you through a robot system to see if you are us. You know what I mean? It's like the Spider-Man meme. Yes. It's like, who is the robot here? Yeah. Okay. That doesn't, the picture doesn't look like cheese, but it looks like if you bought$18 ,000 worth of cheese and they had to package it really like well. Yeah. Well, it makes sense because it needs to stay like airtight because otherwise bacteria and mold would destroy it.

1:01:19I can't believe he spent$18 ,000. Well, and then on the picture too, there's like a, there's duct tape on it. And OP adds in a comment, people are like, why is there duct tape on this cheese? And OP is like, I broke the paraffin wax when I was trying to cut it open. And so I had to duct tape it so it didn't go bad. Oh God, I get, I bet preserving this fucking thing is a whole other beast. That's what I'm saying. This is a crazy investment because of how risky this could actually be with it going bad. What would you genuinely do though If your husband did this Say can you bring it back to the cheese people Is there a return policy If we have the receipt then we can bring it back Like please bring it back OP again People are like this isn't real OP posts a picture Of his hand With his reddit username Written on it in front of the cheese He's doing Everything he can to be like I'm real Motherfuckers I'm real Yeah, now it's not even about OP and the buying of the cheese.

1:02:22Now it's just like trying to validate. It's just trying to validate this person's real story. I know. Isn't it crazy too? Like I was talking about this the other day, but like pictures used to be so. Iron clad. Iron clad. You're so right. Photographic evidence. Here are the screenshots. This is it. Screenshots used to mean a lot. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. We're cooked, Morgan. Nothing means anything. You can't trust a hey girly message anymore. AI. It could be anything. This person is like, this is like the fourth picture they're trying to post of like, this is my real cheese block. Sharpie written on their hand.

1:03:00Oh. Tattoos. I mean, their tattoos look real. Like this looks real. A little cut on his hand. I see the hair on his knuckle. Real hair, real blood from the cut, real cheese. Come on. This is real cheddar, man. 21 year like this is legit and if I'm getting punked and this is all AI then it just goes to show we're cooked if after all these posts that hand is AI those tattoos no and if it is then you know what cut me a slice cut the cheese we do get an update Okay. Photos in the comments as I can't add to the post. I have taken some of your feedback into consideration from my last post. For those curious, my girlfriend is no longer in the picture.

1:03:57Done. She cracked due to low risk tolerance. So I've decided to go in all in on this business. No! I initially tried to return the wheel to the distributor to recoup some capital, thinking that they'd have some pity. They were actually considering it until they came out to look at the cheese in my truck. Apparently, the minor heat damage I caused to the paraffin wax while trying to open it last week compromised the wheel, which was already non-refundable in the first place. So I'm now stuck with 140 pounds, 30 ,000 plus asset. I had to pivot to asset protection and keep what I still have. Keep the cheese.

1:04:49I went out and bought a true TBB2HC 59 inch solid door back bar cooler, a professional digital temperature, humidity controller, an industrial humidifier, a vacuum sealer, and ripening mats. The total cost was about$8.5k after taxes. For the ripening mats! Expensive, yes, but I wasn't going to let a$30 ,000 investment depreciate value. Cheese. Cheese. Cheese. The delivery was difficult. My apartment door is narrow, so I had to take the door entirely off the hinges and shimmy the cooler into the living room. It had maybe a millimeter of clearance between the frame and the unit. I was exhausted and excited, so I started researching installation on my phone before putting my front door back on.

1:05:47That's when my landlord walked in. Oh no. Apparently, he believes my door being off the hinges somehow removes my reasonable right to privacy. We already have a strained relationship because of my own use of the unit. He still holds a grudge because I was doing some light metal fabrication with a consumer plasma cutter in my kitchen a few months ago. Cheese guy was doing plasma?

1:06:18This is, I think this is 100 % real. I couldn't be this quirky. AI is not this creative. The fact he has this knowledge base too. And now we're adding a nutso landlord in the matter. Okay, so what happened? He saw the cooler, the vacuum sealer, and the wheel of Heritage Cheese and started crying about commercial operations and fire hazards. I told him very clearly, the cheese is for personal consumption. I'm losing it. The cheese is a fire hazard now. the cheese is the firehouses and now it's for personal consumption. There is nothing in my lease that limits how much dairy a tenant can own. Where's the dairy part of the lease?

1:07:07The next morning, I found an eviction notice in my mailbox. Because of cheese. This is nuts! It's riddled with spelling errors as if written in haste. I'm already preparing my defense for the landlord-tenant board. Am I overreacting? I'm being evicted over dietary preferences as far as the landlord is concerned, and I feel like this is an unlawful action. It feels like not dietary restrictions. It feels like the, like, industrial fridge you bought. This is so funny. There is an edit. OP goes, I added a plus to the valuation of the cheese, as it is possible to increase my margins depending on the quantities I sell.

1:07:54Also, please bear in mind that I have sold zero cheese, so I feel like this could be a premature action. Thank you. We need to know if he sold the cheese. A lot of people are like, plasma cutting in your apartment? Sure, dude. And guess what OP posts a picture of? Hand with the plasma. Their plasma cutter. There we go. this, if OP's going to do anything, it's going to make sure they know they're not a liar. It's that we know they're not a liar. Yep. He's authentic. But he's getting evicted because of his cheese? So he lost his partner and his apartment because of his cheese? Because of the cheese.

1:08:37Just some cheddar. He needs to go on legal advice now and be like, Arizona, can I get evicted because I bought 140 pounds of cheese and a cooler to keep it in. You can't. There's no way. I don't think so. His lease includes a dairy, like, requirement. It might include the appliance, though, because a lot of leases now with electric cars, like, you can't plug your car into building power. Because of that stuff, yeah. And, like, this is a big fridge. But also, usually you pay for your own electricity, so. Or, like, could you get the fridge anywhere else before you get evicted? Can you, like, storage units?

1:09:17with a fridge. Storage cheese unit. Honestly, that probably would be easier because like then you could like set up a table and like a Dexter style plastic tent to like keep the cheese sanitary as you cut it. Or like kind of find somebody with maybe a shared big refrigerator like that. A commercial kitchen. A commercial kitchen and rent some cheese space. Yeah, because also wouldn't it be better to just like portion up all the cheese now and vacuum seal it so it stays fresh forever? And this person's never bought cheese like this, right? No, but then he went and spent eight. No, he's never bought cheese because then he went and spent 8.5K on all of the equipment.

1:09:57What's the math now? Okay, so he spent like$18 ,400 on the cheese. Plus 8K. Plus 8.5. And he's saying it's 30K in value. What's 19 plus 8? 27? 27. I was thinking of the 7. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh. So he's not even going to make that much. It's breaking even almost kind of. Maybe 3K. Lost a girlfriend. Lost a landlord. Maybe made 3K. Look at what the damage this cheese did. But here's what he's got to do now. He is in so deep. He's going to go, knowing him, he's going to go sunken cost fallacy. And he's going to say, this was my initial cheese. He's going to keep going back. He's going to become a cheese boy.

1:10:45And now in order to make up that sunken cost he's already invested into his cheese boy operations, he's going to have to keep buying the cheese to get out of the hole. He's going to become a cheese boy. He's going to be a cheese connoisseur. Cheese. I really want some cheese now. I know. I'm like, this is like, this feels like product placement and you're going to sell the cheese. No brand was ever mentioned. I feel, who was the salesperson that sold this man this cheese that changed his life? It was like a witch came in and put a curse on him that was cheese. Do you think there's commissions on cheese?

1:11:28Or can he insure it? I know you can insure wine. Right? Yeah. That's what I was thinking. You could probably insure this cheese. I wonder if a standard homeowner's policy or a renter's policy would cover the cheese. This is, these are, where are my insurance agents? State Farm. State Farm, are you there? What? Wow. This is, this one, I'll be thinking about this one for a long time. That's what I'll say. That was my goal. That was my goal. Goal achieved. Goal achieved. Goal achieved. Cheese boy. I will be thinking about him as well. No other updates from the cheese boy. How long ago was this? one day ago.

1:12:09He's commenting. Okay, wait. We, there has to, the cheese will, there has to be sold. OP is commenting as of 11 hours ago still. The cheese is alive and well. Yeah. Somewhere. OP does have a comment here that I'm, I'm, I see the first couple words and I'm like, this could be good. Christ himself could come down from the heavens to vouch for me and you guys would say the holes are in the wrong spot. Yeah. What's unfortunate is Opie's getting really stuck and trying to like - Prove that they're real. Be believed here. Meanwhile, he's got a big cheese problem. I know. There is a comment here. I have figured out that my numbers were optimistic.

1:12:50I have pivoted to damage control mode. Good. He literally just took his whole house down payment and spent it on cheese. And cheese accessories. And cheese accessories. Cheese fridge. cheese insurance can you imagine okay wait i totally forgot he had a girlfriend at the beginning of this can you imagine how thankful this girl probably is right now and her girlies being like remember cheese guy they're gonna go to like a girl's night and like catch up over wine and be like i can't believe i dated him how dumb is he he went out and bought oh my god how's it I'm not going with the down payment, girly.

1:13:31And she goes, wait till you hear this update. Thank God they didn't have kids. Could you imagine your kid's like child fund or like just funds to like feed your baby? Go to like a random investment like cheese. I feel bad buying a charcuterie board when I go out to a restaurant because I'm like, I could make this at home for way less. Truly, they're getting crazy at these restaurants. And it's like butter on the thing. And you're like, oh my God, it looks so rustic. It's like, no way. No, like some of them are like, I feel like I got scammed. Or it's like cheese and nut board,$30. You want to add meat?

1:14:05It's$80. And you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. For a little prosciutto? Just a little bit of salam. God, I don't even like that. I just want the cheese and crackers. Yeah. Maybe a truffle almond if we're - If we're really, maybe a little bit of an apricot or something. Apricot, apricot? Yeah. Yeah. Wow, I'll be thinking, I hope he sells that cheese. But I do want to say, I believe OP. Again, I'll tell you right now, if I've been bamboozled, I don't know. But I believe OP, put down that sword. Now just sell the cheese. I know. And like there's a little in this, I'm looking at the cheese picture again.

1:14:40There's like a stamp from the cheese manufacturer in the wax. I don't know about cheese, but I know that that seems real to me. I'm going to see if I can buy some. I'm going to message him. I'm going to be like, can I buy some cheese? Yes! I'm going to try to buy some. Can I buy some cheese from you? For real. I'm not kidding. And we'll have a slice. Where did he say he was? Canada? Yeah. Shipping to California. And if he can't figure this out? I'm, hey, I'll pick. He's fucked. I will pay above market price for the cheese for the plot. We have to try the cheese. It's a 21-year-old cheddar. Can you, it's going to be good.

1:15:20Oh my God. And we could pair it with like a good bottle.

1:15:25What crackers do we get though? Oh my God. I don't want to, we'll ask somebody. We need to like really like taste it with just the cheese first. You can't dilute it with a cracker. I really hope he responds. If you can get this cheese here, if he can't figure out how to deliver it, he's fucked. Oh, he's got no shot at a business. Cause this is all, this is the PR he has. Can you imagine if we blew up his cheese business cause we read this story? Can you sell food on Etsy? Like, can he start an Etsy? How does he do this? Can we do a TikTok shop for cheese? Wait, TikTok shop for cheese? People are selling like gum on there.

1:16:08I know, you can get gum, you can get drugs. No, you can't get drugs. You can get gum, you can get like, I don't know. Like paint, taffy, you can get stuff. Saltwater taffy. Saltwater taffy. People are selling like soap on there. And that, um, I really got into these videos where they pipe, they pipe that like lotion. Yes. And then they pipe it really artistically into a jar. Oh yeah. And it looks gorgeous. It looks beautiful. And it's like rainbow. Cause I bought in vitamins. That's what I'm saying. I bought vitamins on. You know what I just got? What? And it was actually a really, really good deal.

1:16:42I bought$18 ,000 pinwheel cheese. I didn't get hit with the cheese, but now I'm like, I might be more susceptible to cheese promotion because I'm. Because we're saying it so much in front of all of our devices. Yeah, no, I'm like, everyone's going to be like mouthwatering thinking of cheese. I purchased gas masks. Huh? A gas mask? A gas mask. Why'd you get that? So funny enough, I've kind of turned into a doomsday prepper. So all the wedding prep turned into doomsday prep? Yeah. Well, it started actually at my dear friend Costco. Okay. And Costco was selling this doomsday type prep pack of meal kits.

1:17:22And you got it? It's like NASA meal kits. Like the water mashed potatoes and stuff. Like MEI kits or whatever. I think the military people will be chiming in being like, yeah, I ate that stuff. And you got it. And then what was it? It was like, would you like to add a gas mask to the cart? Well, TikTok shop got me with that because I'm from Minnesota and I've been getting a lot of protest videos. So I got gas masks. So I now have food that doesn't go bad. We've got our emergency supply of water. I have solar-powered lanterns, a tent. I have horses I can ride away on in case there's no gas for cars.

1:17:59Good for you. I have my gas masks. Now you just need some cheese. It lasts for 21 years. So, God, maybe I'll buy a fridge and put it in my garage and start having cheese.

1:18:14I can't wait till he responds. If he doesn't respond, he's not going to sell this cheese. I'm literally like, I just don't even want to shut my computer. I just want to sit here and stare at the chat. Like literally hear from me. Can I buy some cheese from you shipping to California? And this is all he's got. Gems. One, three, eight. Come on. Four female. Four female. The cheese is four, two females. Just give us some cheese. Give us some cheese. We're going to get the cheese. I have a good feeling about it. He's not real if he doesn't send the cheese. Yes. Then we know it's fake. Let's make a grilled cheese.

1:18:56That's the test. Let's put it on pasta. Let's go to the distance. We're going to have to buy more than 200 grams for$60. We'll see. We have to wait until it's real first. See it come in. And then we maybe can order some more from him because he's got it. He's definitely. Unlimited supply of cheese.

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1:20:19Download the Vinted app for free to start listing with no seller fees. Dude, we've got ourselves a cheese dealer. This is great. We do. Okay. God, this was so great. You almost want to end there, but we can't. We can't. Do you have more? Do I have more? Oh my God, how many more? I'm so excited. Too many for us to sit here. We would actually be here until Valentine's Day if I read every tab I have open right now. I can't imagine. I can't believe you organize it with tabs. Yeah, it's really getting me. I'm actually super overwhelmed prepping for a couple episodes I have coming up. Yeah. And I think I'm going to print them all out so I can lay them on the floor and see them all and start organizing them.

1:21:00I'm like overwhelmed. That's really sweet though. With the tabs. That's programming like with paper. I'm really stressed. Okay. It was like bad man, bad man, bad man, funny cheese, bad man. Okay. I'll give you bad, bad girl. Great. Let's change it up. Naughty girl. Maybe. I don't know. We'll see. I don't know how I feel about this one. Okay. It's confusing. So it's coming from A-I-T-A-H, 16 days old. Okay. Titled, am I the asshole for not showing more sympathy for my wife when she mangled her hand using a gift from her mother that I told her was dangerous? My wife will not ever refuse a gift from her mom, and once she accepts it, she will be sure to use it.

1:21:48This has never been a problem before. I don't give a shit about how our front yard is infested with gnomes and other ceramic crap. I don't care that we have decorative spoons from around the world. I do care that my mother-in-law gave us a double-edged serrated bread knife. I saw a new handle in our knife block, so I took it out to look at it. It looked dangerous. I tried cutting some sourdough with it, and I almost cut myself. I told my wife it was dangerous and we should just put it away. She insisted it was fine and left it. Whatever. I told both of our kids not to use it. It took five days.

1:22:31My wife was cutting a bagel. Whoa. My wife was cutting a bagel with the wonder knife and she cut the web between her thumb and forefinger. Deep enough, she cut the big tendon too. No! I heard her screaming and ran to help. I wrapped her hand in clean paper towel and then kitchen towels. We only live a few blocks from a hospital, so I didn't call 911. I had our son drive us there while I kept her hand elevated and I put pressure on it. She had to have surgery on it. I never once said, I told you so. All caps. I also apparently was not as sympathetic as I could have been. I don't know what else I could have done.

1:23:23I held her hand the whole time at the hospital. I did all of the talking while she got admitted. I did not leave her side until we got home. She said that she could feel my judgment. I don't know what that means. Yeah. I did throw the knife away though. Can anyone explain what I did wrong? Oh, that he did anything wrong? I was, I'm like, nothing, King. Wait, it's okay. So she's being outrageous. He threw the knife away. He wrapped her hand. He wrapped her hand. Took her to the doctor. Never once did he say, I told you so, which, I mean, he could have said that very - Or he could have been like, there's so many versions of I told you so.

1:24:08There are so many versions. And he didn't even say it in a nice way. He held his tongue. He bit it. She seems like she's like really upset at herself. So she's taking it out on him. Thank you. Feels like projection. Yeah. Feels a little bit like projection. I mean, she did say, she said she could feel my judgment. Yes. Okay, so have you had someone say this to you before? I've had someone be like, you're pissed, aren't you? Or like when the situation, when you are right, when you are a told you so, but you haven't said it, and it's just so clearly a told you so moment, and you haven't said anything.

1:24:45But your friend is like, I know I was wrong. And it's their ability to sit in being wrong that kind of determines the moment? So I'm,

1:24:59there's no way I can say this without sounding like an asshole. Okay. But I'm usually the one that - Is right? Is right. So I'm, I don't rub it in. Yeah. I just move on. But sometimes the moment that you were right is so palpable. Oh, I know. And that person is so upset that they were wrong. Uh-huh. That you don't even have to do anything. No, and I didn't. It just happened the other day with the carpool lane. And I was like, I was driving my horse to Palm Springs. Okay. And I was like, I'm going to get in the carpool lane. And Justin goes, why don't you just stay in this lane? And I go, well, because he was like, you're not going to be going that fast because you have a horse in the van.

1:25:42Yeah. And I was like, well, if I'm in the carpool lane, I'm not going to have to be braking as often. So it'll be better for the horse. Yeah. And I think overall I'm going to be maintaining a speed. And if people have a problem that I'm going the speed limit, they can go around me. That's their burden to bear. And we're driving and sure enough, the carpool lane is the most effective, safe way. And traffic is halting. And I feel him look over at me and he literally goes, you don't even have to say it. You were right. And I'm like, I didn't say anything. And it's, it's not you. It's not me. It's just him coming to terms with that you did tell him so yeah no he he felt it so so much so that like preemptively he was like you were right and that's yeah it feels like op or it feels like the woman who was cut yeah feels like i feel your judgment is so unfair because it gets into like energy policing that i think about all the time where someone's like well i can tell you're upset the like i haven't really noticed that language but the the like minute you're saying it to me i honestly i feel on edge where it's like vibe policing and they're like well i can tell you you're not happy we chose this restaurant oh i hate that but then sometimes there is energy that someone gives off that's bad right it's like hard to say that like maybe op was just being like when you were in the carpool lane you didn't do any like faces right no i'm thinking like i'm just 10 and 2 just driving with You're just thinking about your horse.

1:27:14Because sometimes people have an energy, but they're not saying anything, but it's very passive aggressive. Oh, yeah. But it sounds like OP wasn't doing that. No, and he's like handling this situation. Well, I think it's, honestly, I think it's more so guilt and projection because it's like she just sliced her tendon. Or it's almost like, I feel your judgment. No, it's you feel your guilt. Yeah. And it's hard admitting like I was wrong. Thank you for taking care of me. but ma 'am, you got to. You know the most common way to cut your hand is by cutting a bagel or an avocado. Everyone says the bagel thing.

1:27:51Avocados are really dangerous too because you hold it in the same way. Yeah. And you're just going, it's also, it's like any type of like someone bringing you to the hospital for something that's wrong with you is so vulnerable. Yeah. And you're like so like set up for shame. I like broke my wrist on my ex-boyfriend. and his roommate had to bring me. I literally thought you were about to say his new girlfriend. Oh, could you imagine? That'd be so funny. But no, his roommate and they had to bring me to the hospital and I was just like, so it's a vulnerable spot to be in. So I think you're susceptible to like, not really thinking a lot of things through fully because you're just like, I'm mad.

1:28:31I'm hurt. I'm pissed off. Yeah. And you're like, well, but it feels like OP did everything he could. He did. Not on you, OP. She's being a little outrageous and pride is probably very hurt. Top comment. I'm a professional chef. The number two stealer of fingertips is a serrated bread knife. Number one is a mandolin. I tell all my new servers when they are cutting bread, keep your thumb clear. The witch of knives comes stealing. Okay. Didn't have to add that part. The knife witch? New fear. Unlocked. Okay, the knife witch. Have you seen those mandolins? So I thought a mandolin was an instrument.

1:29:18What are we talking about? It is an instrument. But what's the knife version? Honestly, you know those cheese graters? Oh. It looks similar to a cheese grater, but has like a big blade on it. Yes, these are bad. Do you have one? No, I've just, I've seen and I've heard. this is crazy I feel like I saw people on TikTok using these to make that viral cucumber salad yes that was constantly what I saw them from oh my god they're dangerous I saw something or someone told me something I don't know but I do know that those and cheese graters I've cut myself on a cheese grater it's really hard I've had like um like skin taken off the tip from a knife but like the next comment down is yeah I took a slice of my thumb off the first time using a mandolin.

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1:33:01We're happily married. What is this? 30 female, 30 male. Hear me out, especially guys. I want you to really imagine the scenario and tell me if it can just be innocent and I don't have to worry about it. So we are together for almost a decade, most of it married happily. We've grown so much together and built the perfect life and relationship for us. We trust each other and there are no icks or uncertainties between us when we talk to our opposite sex friends. Okay. He had a very big crush on a girl from high school for three years. He eventually confessed then and received a rejection as the girl told him she doesn't feel the same and she most probably likes girls more.

1:33:50Still no certainty. He continued to be friends with her after the rejection, and then after high school, they stopped talking. All caps. all of a sudden my husband wakes up today and says he saw her in his dreams after 15 years and immediately wanted to find her on social media to see what she is doing with her life and what she has become he finds her and texts her just casual hi how are you just was thinking about high school and wanted to search for schoolmates here etc etc and then quote let's meet and catch up sometime this week. And he tells me about this only several hours later in the car when he is back from out of town.

1:34:38He says, quote, don't freak out. Here's the deal. I feel nothing about her now and I'm going to meet her just to catch up. I want to know what you think about it. I initially was shocked, then slowly was coming into terms with that when he says, quote, you trust me, right? I gave too much to build all of this with you, and I really value it too much to lose it because of something like this. So it's just a catch-up meeting. And one, if I realize I feel something, I will immediately stop any communication after that. And on the other hand, two, if I realize she's a great person and I don't feel anything about her, I may stay friends with her because I also want a new person to talk to.

1:35:32Like, you have all of these guys you talk to. Just to mention, every guy I generally talk to, not on a daily basis, is either his friend, my married co-workers, or just old friends from former jobs or college who I have never had a crush on or had been pursued by. I eventually told him that it's okay to meet once, and as I know her, I got acquainted with her 15 years ago, she's a sweet girl, and she knows me, he can tell that we are happily married so that there's no possibility that this girl thinks it's a date or something. But as I went to sleep, I started to analyze and overthink everything.

1:36:15I realized I would think a hundred times before writing to my former crush, let alone ask him to meet me. I realized I would be okay if it was any other girl, including ones that had a crush on him, but not the person that he was in love with for three long years. And he was telling me about with sparkles in his eyes when we were young and just friends. I couldn't sleep the whole night, imagining all that could go wrong from one meetup and breaching realities. My afterthought that stayed was, why would he want to stir things up when they are the most quiet, even if he doesn't have feelings now?

1:36:57It's possible that the spark is reignited, right? Why? I told him my thoughts in the morning after a completely sleepless night. He got immediately so mad. You don't say. Only for that I could not sleep because of a tiny irrelevant matter that I sacrificed my health for things that didn't yet and wouldn't happen. He started yelling that I don't trust him and that my overthinking is a big problem and I should not decide who he wants to meet and text. I said I should when it affects me and our relationship. He said that if so, he will from now on refuse to let me meet any of my guy friends to show me how controlling my behavior feels.

1:37:47On my remark that I had not been in deep love for three years with any of them, he said, quote, Jesus, it was 15 fucking years ago. Anyways, we had a big fight with tears and all. His last remark was, quote, you became the woman I was happy you weren't in terms of sick jealousy. That hurt deeply. And also added, quote, this topic is closed. I won't text her anymore and not meet her as you wish. The thing is, if not for such things like telling me about his plans to stay connected with her and refusing to show me what they texted initially, and even changing his five-year-old cringy username to a normal thing before writing her to make an impression, I would agree with the meetup and not have a second thought about it until later.

1:38:46But he behaved like an excited 15-year-old with those actions. But I also think I really overdid it with my imagination. Men, is it possible that this is an innocent thing and he is right? Is it possible that this will not lead to anything worse? If I set clear boundaries versus if I let him be, what could the outcome be? It surely feels like a midlife crisis, like he wants to check if she wants him now, as he got better, fitter, and better looking. Oh my God. I don't know. I'm confused. Help me. Holy shit. This feels like someone called the fire department and there's five fires in different units and we have to pick one.

1:39:29Yes. I don't know where to begin. I really don't know where to begin because we can talk about the whole post, but his reaction is stopping me from thinking about anything else. His reaction is so terrifying. The fact that he's like, well, fine. You're not going to see any of your guy friends going forward. Never again. Like, that's the same thing? It's not, babe. I'm friends with these people. You haven't talked to her in 15 years. You had a dream about her. So now you want to go and meet up with her and then, oh, but don't worry. Because one, one, if I feel something, I'll shut it down. Okay.

1:40:13If? Just like you're shutting me down? If you feel something? Oh my, if? If? You do. You had a dream of it and you are feeling this way. Why are you dreaming about her? What was the dream? Also, have you ever had dreams of like old exes or crushes? Because sometimes I will say dreams have like a theatrical way of being like, oh that person you didn't interact with that person he thinks he interacted with her you didn't right that was a dream and you are in a fantasy something is going on I don't know if it's like a logical thing to be like well she hit me up she didn't hit you up you dreamed about her I have had someone reach out to me based on a dream or just like in general well they were just like you're in my dream this never really took and I just wanted to like and this person wasn't fully single and I remember going I think this happens a lot to people where sometimes like a random like will romanticize the past sometimes especially like when you get older and more confident and you're like oh I was like a loser in high school I wonder if they met me now what it would be like like in terms of some type of like want for confidence Yeah It's not good It's not giving good signs This is a red flag I don't think this spark came out of nowhere I think it was a bunch of things that let up We don't know what's going on in his brain But he's dreaming about other women And even like I feel like a dream I know it's like a common joke Where people are like oh my god he cheated on me in my dream I'm mad at him in real life Dreams can just be dreams sometimes dreams can be your subconscious trying to tell you something yes I don't know who knows but I don't even think it's that weird to be curious about people and where they're at yeah so like with heated rivalry yes heated rivalry was really interesting for me to watch because before my partner now all I dated was hockey players a lot of them played professionally um and so watching heated rivalry I'm like they're all assholes the hockey players are not nice by the way like heat of rivalry makes hockey players look nicer than they are look so mean boys kind mean boys and so i was like oh my god i'm so curious if so-and-so is playing still and i like i googled it but i'm not like hey are you still playing how are things and it's op said it i wonder if he said it though like that he's like better looking now op was like he's better fitter better looking.

1:42:56No, that's not going to work for me because it's you being like, I wonder if they're still playing professionally is one thing. Somebody else being like - I was just genuinely curious where they're at. No, for sure. Curiosity is different. And this isn't curiosity. Right after this episode, I'm going to go Google where the girl that owes me my Justin Bieber ticket money is. I'm going to see what she's up to. I'm genuinely just curious about people. No, curiosity isn't a problem. This feels like a deep desire. He's taking that fishing line, casting it out, seeing if he's got a little fish on the end of his hook.

1:43:24And what's worrisome to me about this is that he's going like, let me just see if she likes me. And then I'll figure that out. If there's feelings there, then I'll shut them down. But can I just see if she does? That to me is being like, I just want to see if she likes me back. Well, and it's like, I don't know. I get people can have friends of the opposite. No, for sure. Genders and whatever. But like you're 30, you have a wife, you're happily, air quotes, married. why do you need a new friend that is the girl you had a crush on for three years? Why do you need to be friends? And then here's the thing.

1:43:57I agree with every single thing we've said. Even if these things that we're saying are true, if OP said to him, I feel this way and he didn't react that way, maybe I'd be okay with this. Oh, that's what I'm saying. It's like, it was the reaction that made me go, well, you have a crush from a dream from the past. Oh, it brought up all new feelings. And now you're gaslighting your partner when she's like, I feel a little intimidated by this. And he said, I wish you were never this type of girl. Oh, that? You became the woman I was happy you weren't. She became that woman because of the behaviors you're exhibiting.

1:44:40She became paranoid because you said you were going to go off and find some girl from your dreams. Jesus, it was 15 fucking years ago. Yeah, that's what the woman's gonna tell you, babe. When you reach out to her, she's gonna go get over this. This was 15 years ago. I told you then I wasn't into you then. And now you just think because you're hotter. I just, why, why, why open the door? Why open the door? Why open that door? It's also just like red flaggy too, to be like a woman's no changes if I'm more hot. Does that make sense? Like like her no wasn't enough because he wasn't like confident and fit then.

1:45:22So now it like it must be a yes now. I really do agree with your point where it's like how he reacted is really telling. And it is very telling the fact that he changed his cringy username to something more normal. He wouldn't show his wife what he initially texted her. this was written I will say it was like very difficult to read this one I'm not sure if there's a language barrier but like but like it was really hard to like almost jumbled and like I get being frantic and like there's a lot that's like capitalized out of the blue and just like it it's very clearly this person is like emotional and like struggling and I get it because of how he reacted it's very suspicious like I can understand I've had weird dreams where I'm like oh my God, I should go do that.

1:46:12Or I, I should like hit that person up, whatever. But I think it's, it's like somebody sitting you down and be like, Hey, your partner, your literal partner, your partner, Hey, this makes me feel a certain way. And then for you to invalidate that person's feelings, like in my dream world, he'd have this very human moment, which is just kind of getting wrapped up in a dream. And then your partner says something and you go, Oh, I'm sorry. I did probably get a little ahead of myself. But to just go, well, now you're acting crazy. That's when I think he does have a crush on some woman. I think he does.

1:46:45Yeah. Or the idea of what she was. He doesn't know her. Or his like ego needs her to say that she was wrong. Oh, he wants to get that bruise off even 15 years later. Yeah. He probably wants her to want him and be attracted to him so he can feel better about himself. That's what was alarming. Like, I don't believe him, but that's what was the most alarming. about him saying like, if she says she's into it, I'll shut it down. I just need to do this because I need my ego to feel amazing. I just need her to be wrong about how amazing I am. So let me go check on this and then I'll come home and make sweet, sweet love to you.

1:47:22Top comment with 11 ,000 upvotes. Whoa. Somehow I don't think we are happily married. I think you are happily married and he is not. 11 ,001 uploads. Yeah, unfortunately, him acting on a dream makes me feel like he's not been happy for a bit. No, no update from OP on this. Some other post about like trying to have kids and like starting to try to conceive and things like that. Post two years ago about writing a will. but seems like a very, very real account. It's a year old, so it wasn't created just to make this post. Yeah. But no update yet from OP on this one. Oh, gosh. It feels like a couple times in these stories where somebody says how they feel and somebody just goes, well, you feeling that way is pretty difficult for me.

1:48:29And invalidating someone's feelings when that person has a gut freaking feeling. Completely. And our guts are so in tune. Like you, I don't know how. I mean, it's just amazing what we will clock sometimes based on like a little gut feeling. Oh, yeah. I think like a couple OPs ago, the gut feeling of being like, in numbers, do you think I'm pretty? One being the lowest, 10 being the top. No, we're going to really we're going to keep an eye out for an update on this one. All of the story links will be in the episode description. There are some comments from OP, but they are longer than the post themselves.

1:49:09And I think she's just like trying to defend him and also share about how they met in high school. And they're not in America. 17 was the first year of university for them. So like, okay, they met very young. They've been together. I mean, they're only 30. They've been together 15 years. yeah like okay so that's like half your life though that's that's a lot it's a lot yeah so I get a lot of people I feel like lately too it's come up on reddit feeling like you missed out you didn't live your 20s and that's hard when you meet your wife husband partner high school sweethearts like and I imagine that's really hard to navigate like communicating most things.

1:49:51I know, but it's not this way. And like, if you're having unresolved feelings or feeling like you need closure or validation that that person you had a crush on in high school thinks you're hot now, it's time for some individual therapy. Yeah. And just like working on your self-confidence and you are enough and like respecting yourself. And like, Like, I recorded a Patreon episode earlier and I was just like, I used the word like self-respect. And it was with my friend Michaela. And like, we had very different takes on like, have some self-respect. And I think when you say that, it can come across negative sometimes.

1:50:28But I genuinely think like, it can be hard to like, know your worth. Yeah. And to respect yourself and how amazing you are and what level at which you deserve to be happy. And so it's like, just like for him, like have some self-respect and like look at this amazing life and amazing partner. Yeah. And don't throw it away for a literal dream. Or don't throw it away by even just talking to her like that. No. That was not, that is not how you talk to somebody that you love and you are going to ruin that relationship. I know. And it's crazy. I know. And OP even said if he wouldn't have been so weird about it, I wouldn't have even thought about it.

1:51:08but it's the fact he's trying too hard. Yeah. Crazy stories. How are you feeling? Ridiculous, ludicrous stories that you picked. You were right. I know. And there's like a little bug flying around now and I just like - I keep seeing it. I just feel even crazier. I'm like, fuck. It's all these gaslighting bitches. Did you hear about the drain bugs in LA? What? With all the storms? They're not fruit flies. If you've been having an increase of fruit flies in your house - It's because of the drain bugs? They're flying up your drain. They're not fruit flies. They're drain bugs. Yeah, I've been distraught.

1:51:47Great. Another fucking thing to worry about. Yeah. Earthquakes and drain bugs. Drain bugs. LA is cool. I hope we get cheese. Check it one more time before I leave. Did he message me? No. That's okay. It's okay. He's probably sleeping or like cutting cheese or something. I mean, it's in Canada. Maybe he's like towards Montreal three hours later. We'll give him space. He's plasma cutting. He's a busy boy. Yes. He's like hooking up the refrigerator to the power grade or moving out because he's getting evicted. Jem, don't forget about us. We want cheese. Thank you for having me. I love you. Thank you for coming on.

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