260: True Colors Came Out! Ft. DJ X

19 Mar 2026 · 1 h 41 min · 37 chapters

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In short

The hosts react to three Reddit relationship dilemmas about “tests” in dating, destination-wedding betrayal, and whether someone is dependable when sick—then discuss burnout, balance, and common etiquette like making sure your date gets home safely.

Guests (backgrounds)

Xavier Jernigan (DJ X), a Spotify music/culture executive turned host. He previously led North America’s music editorial team and created the cultural partnerships workflow (playlists tied to Netflix/Disney, gaming, sports, holidays). He hosted Spotify’s Showstopper (TV/film music moments) and later became a lead host on Spotify’s morning show The Get Up (400 episodes). He’s also an ordained deacon who prays and leads parts of service while traveling frequently.

Key claims

  1. “Testing” partners is manipulative and creates awkwardness; don’t play games.
  2. If you pay for someone’s destination wedding trip, no-showing is a serious breach; “get your money” is justified, though court may be hard if framed as a gift.
  3. A partner who won’t help when you’re severely ill is a major red flag; “in sickness and in health” matters.

Notable examples

  • “Am I the jerk?”: girlfriend staged a friend interrupting dinner; host argues the boyfriend shouldn’t leave her stranded.
  • “Would I be the asshole?”: friend skipped a Bali wedding after OP paid ~$2,000 flight + hotel; debate over suing vs gift framing.
  • “Am I overreacting?”: fiancé refused to buy flu meds for hours, citing not wanting to leave her mom; hosts say don’t marry.

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Chapters

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The Rise of DJ X

0:45 to 1:18

Explore DJ X's background and his journey within Spotify and podcasting.

“That's the calm of having Intuit Credit Karma in your corner.”

The Rise of DJ X

2:36 to 5:29

Explore DJ X's background and his journey within Spotify and podcasting.

“If you have not had the pleasure of hearing this voice before, I'm joined today by Xavier Jernigan, a.k.a.”

Balancing Life and Career

5:29 to 7:54

DJ X discusses the importance of balance in life and managing stress.

“So I created that entire workflow and then I became the head of cultural partnerships.”

Am I the Jerk? Dilemmas Begin

7:54 to 10:23

The hosts start discussing a relationship dilemma from Reddit.

“Usually when we're hanging out, we're in some part of the world.”

Analyzing the Relationship Test

10:23 to 14:00

The hosts explore the dynamics of testing relationships and communication.

“DJ socks if you can't see the details for DJX.”

Debate on Date Etiquette

14:00 to 19:12

Discussion revolves around whether a guy is a jerk for walking out on a date after an embarrassing moment.

“for even agreeing to do that for your friend.”

Suing a Friend Over Wedding Costs

19:12 to 28:00

Exploration of a situation where one friend considers suing another for not attending her wedding after accepting a free trip.

“You want a life partner, not a child who play games.”

Assessing Friendship Dynamics

28:00 to 29:51

The hosts discuss a story about a friend's selfish behavior and its implications on friendships.

“three times that when it was all said at least easily like easily three times that right I fully think this story is real I do too I mean it's really recent but the reddit account is three years old.”

Personal Friendship Experiences

29:52 to 31:48

A guest shares a personal story about a toxic friendship and the lessons learned.

“And I think friends especially, we give so many chances.”

Ghosting and Friend Expectations

31:49 to 33:58

The hosts discuss the hurt of being ghosted by a friend during a family crisis.

“Like now, you know, going forward, like the people that did go to Bali and did show up for you.”
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Engagement Doubts Over Illness

33:59 to 35:55

A listener questions their engagement after a partner's poor response to their illness.

“We don't even live there anymore because I bought her a new house, homie.”

Analyzing Relationship Support

35:56 to 37:55

The hosts analyze how a partner's lack of support during illness reflects on the relationship.

“We recently got back from a trip overseas for a wedding and I caught a bad flu bug.”

The Importance of Commitment

37:56 to 39:51

Discussion on the significance of commitment in relationships, especially during tough times.

“However, after this, I'm seriously questioning my relationship right now.”

Reflections on Marital Expectations

39:52 to 42:00

The hosts reflect on the expectations of partners during sickness and emotional support.

“Especially when you feel like you also just can't leave because you got to be close to a bathroom.”

Traveling While Sick: The Challenges

42:00 to 46:09

Discussing the dreadful experience of traveling while sick, including personal anecdotes and shared experiences of food poisoning and norovirus.

“and having to travel when you're sick it's torturous to know you have to get on a plane and go through an airport Oh, my gosh.”

Empathy in Relationships: A Vital Discussion

46:10 to 49:22

Exploring the importance of empathy and support in romantic relationships during times of illness, highlighting red flags when partners fail to provide care.

“where we don't think about it, but people actually die from it every year.”

Learning from Past Experiences

49:23 to 51:19

Sharing personal stories about friendships and the significance of support during tough times, emphasizing the need to recognize how people treat you.

“For me, it wouldn't be any coming back from it.”

Engagement: Evaluating Relationships

51:20 to 51:46

Discussing the importance of evaluating relationships during the engagement phase, highlighting the need for strong communication and support.

“Listen to what she's telling you through her actions and lack thereof.”

Engagement: Evaluating Relationships

52:44 to 53:21

Discussing the importance of evaluating relationships during the engagement phase, highlighting the need for strong communication and support.

“The next, someone's dropped a snack, lost a shoe, or needs a bathroom break immediately.”

Dealing with In-Laws: A Tough Situation

53:26 to 56:00

Analyzing a scenario involving a partner's family and their negative opinions, discussing the implications for the relationship.

“Option number one, my husband frequently jokes about my family.”

Confronting Family Issues

56:00 to 1:03:20

Discussion about dealing with family members who make disparaging comments.

“Because when they are making disparaging statements towards minority groups or things that are ignorant or along those lines, I don't stay silent.”

The Impact of Family Opinions

1:03:20 to 1:08:10

Exploration of how negative family perceptions affect relationships and self-esteem.

“Because even with the conversation, does that make them like her?”

Advice for Moving Forward

1:08:10 to 1:09:00

Encouragement and advice on leaving a toxic relationship and seeking better connections.

“Because I don't think it's worth it for you.”

Understanding Unique Family Traditions

1:09:24 to 1:10:02

Discussion on a peculiar family tradition regarding invitations and relationships.

“We have a family tradition for over 40 years.”

Initiation Into the Family Dynamics

1:10:02 to 1:12:28

Explore the peculiar family traditions surrounding new relationships.

“After that, it's your significant other's turn and you won't be invited anymore.”

Cinematic Comparisons of Suspense

1:12:29 to 1:14:35

Discussion of movies that portray suspenseful and creepy relationship dynamics.

“I mean, yeah, they've been doing this tradition for 40 years.”

The Psychology of In-Groups and Out-Groups

1:14:36 to 1:17:14

Delve into the psychological aspects of social dynamics and exclusivity.

“And so like that doesn't surprise me learning that about you.”

Cult-like Family Party Traditions

1:17:15 to 1:19:44

A humorous take on a family's odd party traditions and their implications.

“So we do have a couple comments from OP.”

The Darker Themes in Party Culture

1:19:45 to 1:22:12

Examining the unsettling aspects of social gatherings and their stories.

“Channing Tatum, Zoe Kravitz wrote it and directed it.”

Curiosity About Cultural Practices

1:22:13 to 1:24:00

Engaging conversation about understanding cultural traditions and norms.

“Beautiful people and they have some traditions that we don't fully understand as Americans.”

Exploring Celebrity Interactions

1:24:00 to 1:25:10

The hosts discuss their curiosity about listeners' experiences with celebrities.

“Yes, like if I'm not coming back like, this is for y 'all, I'm doing this for y 'all.”

Dolly Parton: A Virtual Encounter

1:25:10 to 1:28:15

DJ X shares his memorable virtual meeting with Dolly Parton during the pandemic.

“We did this really cool thing during a pandemic.”

Farting with Dolly: An Unexpected Confession

1:28:15 to 1:31:10

A humorous confession about a fan's bizarre encounter with Dolly Parton.

“Meeting your heroes can be really scary.”

The Reality of Meeting Heroes

1:31:10 to 1:34:21

The hosts reflect on the complexities and expectations of meeting celebrities.

“And I really think it's like you're present during some of the best times.”

Health Awareness and Personal Stories

1:34:21 to 1:36:46

A conversation on health checks and personal experiences with early detection.

“I'm getting better about saying hi to people that I admire too.”

The Impact of Connection Through Podcasting

1:36:46 to 1:38:01

Discussion on the significance of connecting with listeners and the joy it brings.

“I mean, everyone you talk to right now is like, Ooh, stuff is popping up.”

Reflecting on the Experience

1:38:01 to 1:39:08

The hosts express gratitude and share their experiences on the show.

“Or when you saw that lump, that cyst, what is that?”
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1:19Literally, I had three drinks yesterday. She's noticing my cup. And I just like more. Yeah, you don't have enough drinks. They're very attentive. They're genuinely good people. The best family. I really like them. Like, we hire people that are just like genuinely good souls. You. Me? Well, thank you. You have made me becoming a part of the Spotify family, like, so fun, so easy. Thank you. Like you have, from the first time I met you at like some random little event. Yeah. You're just, you're such a bright, warm, comforting soul. That means a lot to me. Oh. And you're just so friendly. And you're just so.

1:59I'm so shy though, which is. Is that right? Yeah. But you know what? You've never been that way with me. Because you are you. Thank you. That means a lot. Like I instantly considered you a friend. I appreciate that. Like we were talking, we were like maybe five minutes in and I'm like, we're friends. I know. And we like exchanged info and we were just like, okay, we're cool. It's so cool. I'm just so, so, so excited to have you today. People listening are going to be like, wait. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I know this voice. I know this voice. That's my DJ. That's my DJ. Your DJ. My DJ too, because I listen to it too.

2:34You listen to your own voice? It's DJ X. Oh, absolutely. I'm in the top 1 % of AI DJ listeners. Oh my gosh. Yes. If you have not had the pleasure of hearing this voice before, I'm joined today by Xavier Jernigan, a.k.a. DJ X. In the building. I'm a real person. If you didn't know where you've been, where you've been, but they can get to know me a little better now. You know, people connect with me because they feel like I know them. It's an interesting type of celebrity. Because unlike other types of celebrity, you feel like you know that person for that thing they do. She's a basketball player.

3:13She's in the movie. He's your host of Two Hot Takes. They feel like they know you from your takes and being a part of this family. But the differences with DJX, AIDJ, is people feel like I know them. And it's such an intimate experience because every time you press that button, I'm a part of your life. You're inviting me into your life. And I'm always there. Well, you have to think about how much time people are spending listening to music. That's right. Listening to podcasts, driving. Some people have two-hour commutes, one way to work. Yo, Morgan, we put out the number the other day for the first time.

3:46We never released it publicly, but we did. 90 million people have engaged with AIDJ driving four billion hours of listening. Four billion. How many years is that? Did they give you that math? I should have did. I should have like broke it down. I was thinking about that too. That blows my mind. Four billion? It's insane the amount of people that use it, listen to me, hear my voice. You know, I'm in a restaurant and I'm eating. Do you notice people's head kind of turn? I do. I do. I know that voice. And at some point, this is what happens. A server will come by. And it's not always my server. Yeah.

4:25A server will come by. And this is when I know what's going down. They'll just say, I don't want to be weird. But are you DJ X? And then they're like, yeah, everybody in the back. We were all like Googling. And we were like, yeah, that's him. Oh my God. It's so endearing. People turn into little kids. Like, you know, it's little kids that love it. You know, grandmas and mothers and everybody in between. And everybody turns into a little kid when they meet me. Celebrity, other celebrities. It's crazy. It's been a crazy ride. I love it. It really has been because you started out as like head of cultural partnerships.

5:00Okay. Look at you doing your research. Oh, no, I know. And you listen. Yeah. So I started out as the head of North America for our music editorial team. So our human curators that make the human editorial playlist. Right. So I headed up that team and then I created the cultural partnerships team. And that team did all what we call cultural curation. So the playlist like partnerships with Netflix and Disney and playlists around gaming and sporting events and holidays. So I created that entire workflow and then I became the head of cultural partnerships. and then I started getting asked to host things.

5:36Now I did hosting outside of Spotify. You know, when something's meant for you and you know this from your show and what's happening with your show, absolutely blowing up, by the way. Number 35. It's having a moment thanks to these guys. Number 35 the last time I looked. Hey. Yeah, like you're telling you, we're going to push that up. But when something's meant for you and you're meant to do something, it will find you. And we started getting into podcasting, podcasts here at Spotify. And I got asked to host one because they liked the way that I spoke about music and culture and TV and film and all of that.

6:10And I hosted season two of this podcast called Showstopper about the memorable music moments in TV shows and film. And it got a lot of good reviews. It was like a slow burn type thing. Like we did episodes around Insecure and Baby Driver. And I had a Spike Lee episode and it was really cool. That's cool. And then it went from there to another show. So can you host this? We have this event over here and we're going to do this thing in Amsterdam. X, can you host it? And internally, Morgan, people would say, like my fellow co-workers would say, you know, you're really the voice of Spotify. And then AIDJ comes along and I look at me now.

6:49Look at you now. Yeah. Oh, so crazy. So fun. I love, love, love you, your voice. Thank you, Morgan. I am just blown away because like you hear all this, you guys, and you're just like, what hasn't this guy done? You've lived so many lives I have I met your friend at dinner a couple weeks ago Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah I was like you worked at that record label? You worked with her and so much I was just like blown away Yeah But valedictorian Yes Of college Valedictorian NYU NYU Yeah Which insane You're also a deacon I'm an ordained deacon Which what Do you marry people? Like what do you I can I can marry people Okay I do I come in and speak in different parts of service, whether it be the congregational prayer or if it's the offertory time, I'll talk about giving and the point of giving and why we're giving and what that's really about.

7:43And you're being blessed and you're blessed to be a blessing to somebody else. So I'll share those kinds of things, but I pray for people and lead different parts of service. I'm gone a lot physically because I'm always somewhere else. Usually when we're hanging out, we're in some part of the world. Yeah, a different city. Different city, different part of the world, which is pretty awesome. I wake up and I pinch myself every day. Yeah, same. Like, it's never lost on me, ever. And I remind myself, like, no matter how busy it gets, just make sure I'm balanced. Make sure I take care of self. So sometimes that means I can't physically be in church the way I used to be.

8:21Yeah. But I do believe that all of this other stuff is happening around my career so I can be a light outside of like shirt sales. That's what we need anyway. You're so balanced. I just feel like you just give guru energy. I like that. You really do. And I'm like, I got to pick your brain about how to deal with burnout. No, we should talk about that. No, for real. We should talk about that. So the last show that I hosted was a daily podcast. Some of you may remember called The Get Up. It was Monday through Friday. It was Spotify's morning show. It was our official morning show. Wow. And I was the lead host on that.

8:56And I had a couple co-hosts with me. And that was two years. We did 400 episodes, two years. It was Monday through Friday. And even if it was a holiday, we would pre-record. So we wanted our listeners to never go without an episode. So I was never off. And my call time was 4.30 a.m. Eastern. I'm just sick over that I'm nauseous I'm gonna tell you the truth 4am, no I'm gonna tell you the truth, Morgan It took me two years About a year and a half To not be sleep deprived After I left the show After we wrapped the show up Oh my gosh It took a year and a half For my body to regulate So now I'm extra serious about Balance and self care Because it'll age you If you're not careful I know, it's just stress Stress kills Stress kills, that's real It's not good for you Not at all.

9:48Okay, well, you've been through some stuff. Yeah. You're a well-rounded person. I try to be. I think you're going to have some good takes on today's stories. I'm excited. I found just a wide variety of chaos and just weird dilemmas people are having. And you always approach things from a very empathetic, just kind of take. So I think you're going to be really good. I think we're going to have some fun. We're going to get loose. We're going to get loose. Let's do it. I'm always telling you the truth. That's the thing. I'm always telling you the truth. I know. So we're going to get into it. Let's dive in.

10:17I'm excited. And I listen to the show, by the way. I know you know this, but I want the listeners to know you're with a fellow listener. He's not bullshitting you guys. Peep the socks. Oh my gosh, yes. Who does this remind you of, you guys? Come on. Sharing the sock game. Sharing the sock game. Our dad, father knows. Father knows. So I got the socks on. I'm comfy. DJ socks if you can't see the details for DJX. Let's get it. It's you. It's you. It's so me.

10:47Thank you.

11:17seen caption their Instagram posts, dressing up in case my AIDJ sees me today. I saw a couple of those. One was from an Olympian. Yeah, I messaged her back. It was so awesome. I was just like, we need to make a connection happen. So I sent her a nice message saying like, you know, wish I was there and looking forward to meeting you IRL. So keep dressing up in case we meet in real life, because I do want to meet you IRL. You know what I mean? We keep it fly. So keep dressing up. keep it fly at all times Morgan you know I don't play about my fashion you do not you don't either though I have my days you see me on my best ones good I'm always dressed up when you see me otherwise it's leggings and a big t-shirt I'm not mad at that this first story I've got for you okay let's hear it it's coming from r slash am I the jerk so this person says am I the jerk for walking out of dinner after my girlfriend tested me.

12:15Does it go into detail of Tess to her? I want to hear more. Okay, I'm intrigued. I, 29 male, have been dating my girlfriend, 28 female, for eight months. She's really in a social media and relationship Tess, which I've always found kind of cringe, but harmless. Okay. Last night, we went out to dinner. Halfway through the meal, a woman came

12:41OK. OK. and left, my girlfriend started laughing and told me it was her friend and she wanted to see how I would react. She said that I passed so I shouldn't be mad, but I was pissed. I told her that that was humiliating and manipulative. I don't want to be tested like I'm on some reality show. She said I was overreacting and that other guys would have found it funny. I paid for my food, left, and went home. Now she says that I embarrassed her and made a big deal of nothing. Am I the jerk for walking out? Oh, I like this one. This is a good one to start on. Okay. So first of all, all that testing stuff, don't do it.

13:24Stop playing games. It's not necessary. What are you trying to prove? He passed the test and then what? Congratulations. We get to continue having a nice dinner. It's awkward now. It's awkward now. It's weird. I don't know what's real with you. yeah you know what I'm saying like the person came up which would be crazy rude by the way for somebody to come up in the middle of you sitting with a you know what I mean yeah like you're obviously on a date on a date or like just like you don't know me and like you're gonna come up in five seconds while yeah having an intimate conversation or at least dinner with someone like could be anyone it's still rude exactly that's crazy rude so that person's the jerk for even agreeing to do that for your friend.

14:06I know they think they're like ride or die and being a good friend. That's actually not being a good friend. Now let's get to, is he a jerk for walking out? I wouldn't have taken it so far to walk out in the middle of dinner. I would have finished dinner. I would have expressed how I felt about it. I think what he said up to that point was cool. But you don't have to embarrass her. I understand that she was embarrassed. Did he leave her sitting at the table? like just put money on the table and then just like leave like like because it's you know what i mean yeah like how dramatic was his yeah like if you just like that's it and you just drop you know whatever the you know cash is on a table and you just walk up and leave and then you get your i don't know if y 'all rode there together did you meet there together all those details matter so did you get an uber and you're like get your own uber or it's a really good point you know what i'm saying so those details matter if they were through the meal so i mean he just says i paid for my food My food left.

15:03My food. There's no, I mean, above, it does say halfway through the meal, someone came to the table. Halfway through the meal. Okay. So he could have been still eating. And then this happened. You passed the test. And then he was like, I'm done. You're like, I just, I'm going to roll out. But they've been dating together for eight months. So they probably did go there together. Yeah. So if he left her there, that part of it is jerkish. now she set everything off in a way that was just unnecessary and childish that's childish like come on what are we doing what are we in high school even in high school I wouldn't like that like let's not do that no you can't leave her though and I just say this like this may sound old school or traditional I'm big on seeing your date home even if the date is a terrible date I'm seeing you home.

15:56I'm going to make sure you get inside. Even if I'm angry with you or upset or something left, I'm going to make sure like, you know, I live in New York. You got it. You got to get them home. And even if you make the Uber wait, the Uber driver has to wait until she walks in and the door closes behind her. Yeah. So you got to see her home safely. And if you didn't do that, that part is jerkish. But I get where you're coming from. Yeah. So why he's angry. feelings are so valid they are so valid but yeah I think you could have just like had that conversation but like that's not okay yeah I don't appreciate it I don't want to have these tests going forward and you know let's just let's let's wrap this up like I'm kind of over this now it's how you express the feelings too right like it's a couple things about feelings right you have a right to your feelings that also doesn't mean your feelings are always right your perspective may be the most important perspective in your world.

16:55It doesn't mean it's the most important perspective in the world, right? For sure. So I get his perspective, his anger. I absolutely would have felt that was a jerk move on her part. I would have been mad about it. I would not have left her there. I would have expressed it. Even if like we go in a silent moment, not like really silent treatment. It's just like, it's awkward now. Like you said, Morgan. Yeah. I don't got much to say now. I'm still going to make sure you get home. Yeah. And I appreciate that because I don't think that's common courtesy anymore. Right. And I think like the younger generations, like when I was in high school, like my high school boyfriends were pretty with it and they would, you know, I'd get out of the car and I don't know if I ever got walked up to the door.

17:37Yeah. Like that's very traditional. I wish that was still a thing, but they would at least sit in their car and watch and make sure I got in the house. You got to, at the very least you got it. Kids aren't doing that nowadays. Justin has Step siblings That are like 15 16 18 And When the girl Was in high school And had You know Her first boyfriend Is going on these dates He'd drop her off And peel away Oh no He wouldn't even pull In the driveway So in the front like On the curb It's like a rolling stop Like Jump Jump out Tuck and roll girl Right right Tuck and roll Like one battle After another Like go Now Courage You don't respect me at all.

18:19Yeah, for real. It's just respect. That's common respect. And what happened to safety and not making assumptions that people make it inside. What if she can't find her keys? She's locked out and it's cold. These things happen. Simple little things. Or if her phone died and then she can't reach you. Yeah, she's got a smart lock. She can't get in. Can't reach you. Anything can happen. Make sure your date gets in their home. Period. I know. I feel like we need a common etiquette course again. We do. Maybe we should work on that Yeah we've lost a little bit of that I think we have And it's a sad thing I know Everyone can chime in Like give us some other ones We can add to the list Like we should make a list For people of just like Make sure your date gets in the door Yeah Don't drive away Exactly If you're mad at dinner Don't just slap money down on the table And leave them there And run Yeah I mean yeah Eight months too together It's like Yeah They probably came together Yeah Top comment on this one Nope Nope.

19:16That is immature. You want a life partner, not a child who play games. Can't argue with that. OP, our writer does respond. You're right. This breaks me feeling this way. I'm sad for them. I know. I don't understand relationship tests because it's like if you're, if you don't trust your person to where you feel you need to do them, I think that's kind of a red flag for you. That's right. Like, right, right. If you have to test it, like let's go field test this. I have a feeling that I can't trust him or trust her, trust them. And you feel like you have to actually have it acted out like a reenactment made.

19:56Like that's crazy. Like Instagram DMs, I think is a big test. Yeah. Like there's girls that like I've seen on TikTok literally get paid to message other people's boyfriends. Slide in the DMs and then see what they'll respond. Yeah. Can you test to my partner. This is why I don't even check DMs. Fun fact about me. Really? True story. I don't even look. Too dangerous. It's too dangerous. It's just a minefield. You never know. You never know. You never know. Yeah, I don't do it. No other updates on this post? No other comments from OP? That's all we got? I want to hear from the audience. I want to hear from the listeners.

20:33What do you want to poll them on? We've got polls on Spotify. Yeah, let's poll them. But you only get one poll per episode. Okay, so let's wait. I don't know if— I know, there might be something better. You got a lot of chaos coming up. I know, we got to tell the megaphone, the team. Yeah, like, multiple polls, please. Yeah. What are we doing? Yeah, you can have more than one. I think I know someone I could ask. Yeah, I think so, too. We know a couple people. We have some friends. Okay, this next one is coming from Am I the Asshole. Okay. It's only 16 hours old right now. Oh, fresh. Really fresh.

21:08Okay. It's titled, Would I Be the Asshole for Suing My Friend When She Didn't Come to My Wedding? Wait, wait, wait. Uh-huh. Suing, like, litigation, like, we going to court? Taking her to court. Now, were there monies spent on said person? Okay, let's go. I, 25 female, recently got married to my 25 male husband in Bali, Indonesia, in January. It was a destination wedding, but my parents and his parents paid for their own plane tickets and hotel. But we paid for our friends' plane tickets and hotel stays. Each plane ticket was about$2 ,000 USD. Yo! And hotel, maybe$150 to$300 for a week. My friend Gemma brought along her newlywed husband, John, but paid for his plane ticket.

22:04The problem is that Gemma and John did not show up to my wedding. No! Gemma took the free plane ticket to Bali and the hotel room. And when I asked her why she didn't show up, she said, since they couldn't afford their own honeymoon, this was the perfect opportunity. And Jim decided that he didn't feel like going. I was really hurt by this since Gemma and I have been friends, For over 10 years. Stop playing. Would I be the asshole if I took her to small claims court for the money that I spent on the plane ticket and hotel? Get your money. That was crazy. And this is why. That's so much money. That's so much money.

22:49And this is the thing. It's beyond the principle. Yep, principles involved. But this is the thing. The money was spent. I watch a lot of Judge Judy. The money was spent. I learned something. The money was spent in anticipation of her attending the wedding. It was essentially contingent. Yes. If she told her, hey, I'm not going to go to your wedding, then you'd be like, oh, well, I'm not buying your plane ticket. It's to come to my wedding. She spent the money. You took the flight. So you taking the flight is you saying, I'm going to your wedding. I know. And I wonder what type of documentation OP has.

23:29I was like, does she have text messages like, hey, if you come to my wedding in Bali, I'll buy your plane ticket. Right. And then the friend is like, yeah, that sounds great. She's going to need that. Like that then is kind of a verbal contract. That is an agreement. And so, yeah, her not showing up. Yeah. What? Get your money. You're not paying for random people, even your friend for 10 years, to just fly to Bali and just not go to your thing. That's crazy. And it was incredibly generous. to pay for your friend. Insane. Because I expect, I don't know about y 'all, I don't know about you, I expect if I'm going to a destination wedding that I'm going to pay.

24:08Yeah, it's on you. It's on me. No, this was like crazy generous. So that was generous, that was thoughtful. That meant, I want you there so bad. It's so important to me that you are at my wedding that I'm going to put down$2 ,000 and pay for your hotel room for you to be there. I know. That's crazy. Get your money. I know. Out of control. No, you are not. No, and I'm thinking about it. I'm like, okay, like, I get you didn't get to celebrate your own honeymoon. That's your problem. A wedding is one day. It's literally one day. It's an event. And you've got a whole rest of the trip you can extend in either direction.

24:43That's right. If your new husband doesn't want to go, too bad. Yeah. That's your friend. That's right. You leave your husband in the hotel room and you go. I totally agree. I'm just like, what a bad friend. And to me, he would be a jerk for not going. But as the friend, you still have to go. Like, listen, listen, buddy. I'm going to this wedding. We can have our fun before, after, to your point. Yeah. But that's crazy. Soar, take her to court. I would, yeah. I mean, OP does add more, too. Oh, I want to hear more. This girl, Gemma, wasn't even in the wedding party. So OP was like, all she had to do was show up, dance, and eat cake and food.

25:23She didn't even have to actually do anything. No job. Just have fun. She's out of control. Funny thing enough is that they did go on a honeymoon. It just wasn't abroad. And this is the thing, though. That has nothing to do with OP, your honeymoon, or the honeymoon you didn't do. It has nothing to do with the next person's wedding and the next person's wedding planning. Yeah. For example, if I decide I want to just go to the courthouse and get married, that has nothing to do with your plans for your wedding and you wanting me to be a part of it, right? Yeah. So even saying all that is a whole bunch of extra stuff.

26:06It's a whole bunch of nonsense as far as I'm concerned. I know. I would love for her to sue and get money back, but there's one comment that I think is going to make that hard. Okay, let's hear it. I made a video of me surprising her that I paid for her plane fare and printed a photo of the hotel room at Christmas. I gave it to her as a gift for Christmas, as well as some other gifts. It's a gift. It's a gift. So this is the problem. The way you presented it. Yeah. There's no... You're not going to be able to get the money back. I don't even think Judge Judy would do it. No, Judge Judy would say it was a gift.

26:45You were basically saying, here's a trip to Bali and I'm getting married during that time. Yeah, you're not going to win, But the energy around suing her, I'm all for. You're just not going to win this case, though. I know. Well, if you did go to one of those shows, I've heard that even the losing person gets paid. Yeah, they get like an appearance fee at least. So it's like, you get a little something out of it. Yeah, and they get a free trip. They're coming to New York or going to LA or something like that. A lot of people were questioning like this story. How did you afford it? You're 25 and you're paying for all these people to go to Bali.

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27:22And OP does share that she signed on as a CRNA with a 40K bonus. Okay. So she used her whole signing bonus. She used her signing bonus. To make this happen. And you know what? And let's be real. A lot of people spending money they don't have anyway. So when it's like they're questioning her, like, how does she have this money? A lot of y 'all got credit cards maxed out already anyway. So stop it. My brother put 40K on a credit card for his wedding. See what I'm saying? Yeah. And that was 2015. like see what I mean like people you can yeah so you can finance yeah you can you can do it I don't recommend it don't do it took him forever exactly a lot of interest a lot of interest probably paid three times that when it was all said at least easily like easily three times that right I fully think this story is real I do too I mean it's really recent but the reddit account is three years old.

28:13So that also kind of shows me like she didn't just create this account to create a fake story. Right, just to do it. It's a real account. Yeah, she's been around. So this is a real problem. This is a real problem. And you know what? That person's not your friend. Not anymore. Y 'all can't be friends. Top comment. Can't believe I'm saying this, but not the asshole. Someone offers to give you a free vacation on the condition that you attend one party during that time. Come on. I'd be jumping at the opportunity. Absolutely. To take a free vacation and then no call, no show to your friend's wedding is really shitty behavior on their part.

28:45Couldn't agree more. They could have extended their stay if they wanted to treat the trip as their own honeymoon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, that's so foul. That's foul. It's literally, it was probably like, hey, show up at four. You could have gone to the ceremony and then snuck out. Yes. I mean, ceremony's at four, right? You still seven o 'clock? Get a meal out of it and then go do whatever you want to do. Go to the beach. That's it. I don't know. You're not even in the wedding party. Isn't that crazy? People are selfish. I think OP is coming to terms with it as sad as it is. Yeah. Because in the comments she does kind of add, I realize I'm going to be better off going forward.

29:28Oh, absolutely. You got to listen when a person tells you or shows you they're not your friend. You got to listen. as painful as it may be and as hurtful as it can be, listen to the truth. Yeah. Be clear on what people are telling you and not just projecting what you want it to be because that just means you're going to extend you getting hurt. It's hard. No, and it's so hard. And I think friends especially, we give so many chances. We do. Like even more so than like romantic relationships. I totally agree. Like about friendships that we really, you know, we work hard for because, I mean, friendships are hard.

30:07That's right. But gosh, like when you wake up and you're like, I deserve to be better. And like you move past that friend. That's right. Then you have so much more room for a new person. Exactly. That's going to treat you right. Yes. And I learned that the hard way. Like I broke up with a friend that I literally thought would be a bridesmaid. And what happened? Oh, bad news bears. Really? Yeah. Like I flew from Minnesota to Dallas to go visit her. Yeah. I brought another one of my friends with. Yeah. And the whole entire time, like, she would ignore me, would, like, sabotage. No. Like, what was happening with me so she could get close to my other friend.

30:46What was that about? My other friend's dad works for the NHL, and she wanted to get close to her. So she literally hid her phone so she couldn't reach out to me and contact me. Are you serious? Yeah. That's diabolical. It was really bad. That's crazy. So I ended up like leaving. I flew home early. I was like, I'm done. Oh, so you were like, I got to get it. I'm out of here. I don't want to be a part of this. Yeah. I like sat at her house by myself for almost 24 hours. Stop playing. No Wi-Fi. She didn't have Wi-Fi at her place. And this was back like 2015, 2016. And so she didn't have Wi-Fi. So you were like stranded, basically.

31:26Uber wasn't a thing, really. No. And so I asked, I was like, hey, can I take your car to Walmart to go buy a book? She told me no. No. So I sat there, twiddled my thumbs, called my dad. I go, can you book me a flight? Yeah. And he did. And I left. Shout out to dad, man. I know. Daddy knows. He knows. He knows a lot. I'm sorry that happened to you. First and foremost. No, but like you live and you learn. It's the same with this person where it's a tough, expensive, really expensive lesson to learn. Like now, you know, going forward, like the people that did go to Bali and did show up for you. Those are real ones.

32:00I had a friend that I was really tight with in high school, early adult life, and my mom's house flooded. I'm originally from Florida, Daytona Beach. Hurricane comes, our house floods. So I was here in New York working, and I couldn't get down there. And that is so stressful. Right, so that's stressful. My brother couldn't get down there. So my friends, my boys, they, yeah, they all rallied up. went to the house. Yeah, because that's your mom, too. That's my mom. And like their second mom, right? So they're pulling up carpet, taking stuff out of the house so it can get prepped to get fixed up.

32:40Yeah, cutting out the drywall. Yeah. Because mold. Yes, because it forms quickly, especially in Florida because it's so hot. Yeah, the humidity. Exactly. Yeah. So one of my friends, you know, I'm on the phone with him. He's like, I'm on my way. Okay, great. So I know this person's there. And a couple hours later, my mom calls me and she's like, where's so-and-so he he didn't get here yet and I was like yeah he said he was on the way when I talked to him a couple hours ago I called him no answer so no show no call and never heard from him again for like better part of 10 years straight ghosted I thought you were gonna say like 10 days 10 years yes well then you're like you know a couple hours later you're like you're worried about him you're like that's is he good that's exactly what i was doing to do that to someone to ghost someone like that just say you can't make it just say you can't make it ghost me ghosted my mom ghosted my other friends who were there helping what and none of like our whole friend group our friend circle didn't hear from him and then he reaches out like 10 years later almost like hey what's going on and i'm like come on what's going on what's going on so so audacious Last I talked to you 10 years ago, you were on your way to my mom's house.

33:58Still going there? You're still on the way? You're on the way? Are you walking? Oh, okay. You still walking. You're walking. Or you carried the car. Oh, okay. Oh, good looking. We don't even live there anymore because I bought her a new house, homie. Like, what do we... Oh, my God. That's so insane. And that was hurtful. Very. And I kind of put it aside while we had the crisis that we were dealing with. But later then, you know, when he came back or really tried to, like, come back into my life, I really reflected on it. I'm just like, nah, man, you don't get to do that. You don't get to do that.

34:29You did it to me, you did it to my mother, and you did it to our other friends. Sorry, man. Like, sorry, not sorry. No, no. He didn't deserve anything, especially after 10 years. And Morgan, this is the thing? You know what? I asked him, so what happened, man? For real, what happened? Yeah. He just humming and hawing. He never actually explained himself. There wasn't a reason to, because you can give people grace if it's like, you know what, dude, I was in a really tough spot. Yeah. I was battling some stuff of my own. And I was embarrassed. And I withdrew from everybody. It wasn't about you. I didn't want people to see me like that.

35:03Whatever it is. Then you give them some grace. That's right. To be with no excuse. Nah. Bye. Bye. Bye. We can't do this, man. No. And I can't catch you. I'm not catching you up on the last 10 years. A lot has happened. A lot. A lot has happened. Things are good over here. Real good. Real good. Real good. Things are not real good for this next one. All right. Let's do it. This one is coming from r slash am I overreacting. Okay. 14 hours old. Oh, I like when I'm fresh like this. I know. It just feels like you're in it with them. Yeah, exactly. Am I overreacting in rethinking my engagement after how my girlfriend treated me while sick with a bad flu?

35:47My, 35, and my fiance, 32 female, have been together for four years. All right. Lived with each other for one year and recently engaged. We recently got back from a trip overseas for a wedding and I caught a bad flu bug. So bad that I passed out standing in the airport line and had to be checked over by paramedics before I was allowed to keep flying. We got home late and also while walking up the stairs in our home, I basically got lightheaded and had to sit down. I finally made it to bed. While we were gone, her mom was house sitting for us and she was staying over. So I had really bad diarrhea and she knew this.

36:26As while walking through the airport and on the plane, I was in the bathroom every 15 minutes. That's the worst. And I told her this embarrassing fact. Yeah. The next morning, my fiance woke up at around 8.30 a.m. Once she woke up, I asked her if she could go to the store and pick up some Imodium, Pepto, maybe some Sprite and Gatorade as I was really dehydrated. Yeah. Her first response was, quote, do I need to go now? I get that I probably should have said yes, but I didn't want to be pushy. So I was like, well, you can have coffee and get ready, but I am super dehydrated and I really feel like shit.

37:05And anytime I drink water 10 minutes later, I'm on the toilet again. Right. She gets up and talks with her mom about the trip, has breakfast. Around 11 a.m., her mom jumps in the shower. So I go downstairs to talk to her about going to the store. She basically snaps at me and says, quote, let me say goodbye to my mom. Why didn't you buy those at the airport yesterday? Oh, no. I will go after I say goodbye to my mom, okay? At about 12.30 p.m., I gave up. I sign up for DoorDash. I've never done that. Order the medicine, Sprite, Pepto. And I'm impressed because it's here by 1 p.m. When it got delivered, my girlfriend's mom was like, what is that?

37:46I basically told her it was just medicine since I was sick and didn't want to go to the store. so I got it via DoorDash. And she was like, you didn't need to order online. I could have gone to the store quick and picked it up. However, after this, I'm seriously questioning my relationship right now. Not that it matters much, but there's a store about a quarter mile from my house. It's maybe a three, four minute drive. It would have literally taken 15 minutes max to pick it up. I asked her to do one simple thing and she blew it off for like five hours. This is terrible. I know. So it, The question is, am I overreacting because I'm rethinking my engagement and potential marriage to this person?

38:29I wouldn't marry this person. I mean, when you get married, there are some vows you take. That's right. Typically, it's in sickness and in health. For better or for worse. And she's not down for the in sickness part. No, not at all. That's a major part. She's only down for the health. Just the health. As long as you're healthy and can get stuff on your own, then it's all good. Yeah. The second, I have to be inconvenienced. And why didn't you, when you were sick and knew you weren't feeling well, you didn't get it yourself? Also, why didn't you get it at the airport? Well, because the airport is like four or five times more.

39:05It's like$500 for a Sprite and a modem. What are we talking about? Nah, man. $8 for just a water. It's crazy. It's highway robbery. It's getting insane. No, it's really, really crazy, right? I wouldn't marry this person. I wouldn't do it. The beauty in this situation is the person is showing you who they really are. And if the person can't show up for you, if a person that you're supposed to be married to, a life partner with, combining finances, potentially having children together, building a home and a family together, and going at life together, then when you're at your worst, When you can't, like you feel horrible.

39:49Nobody likes to be sick. It sucks to be sick. It is the worst. It's the worst. The worst. Right? Especially when you feel like you also just can't leave because you got to be close to a bathroom. Isn't that the worst? Or you got to like, when it's coming out both ends sometimes, you got to keep a trash can closed. So like, that is the worst. It's embarrassing. He was vulnerable for her. Like, I couldn't do it. I could not and would not marry this woman. And take it from your friend, DJX, don't marry this woman. You're going to be in for heartache and a terrible life. I am a believer in I'm not married.

40:25Like happy wife, happy life. I'm a big believer in that. Okay. And you're going to be miserable. She's not happy. Because she's not going to be happy when you're sick. No. And I know there is like a common trope because like I literally joked about it. Yeah. In my wedding vows. now I'm like well that could have been a little nicer no it was funny everyone laughed and like it's kind of a joke with me and Justin where like sometimes guys will get sick and like the man cold and they take being sick a little harder oh we're big babies I'll be the first to tell you men are big babies and Justin like we'll get the same cold and like maybe it hits him differently but like for me I'm like I'm still doing, I'm like, I'm rocking.

41:13Yeah, and he gets taken out. So it's kind of a common, like, trope. I agree with that. And so in my vows, I promise, like, in sickness, even if it's a man cold, like, I will take care of you. But you committed, though. Oh, I'm committed. You see what I'm saying? I'm committed. And I think that was a fair joke because I, as a guy, I'm willing to say it. We can be big babies when we're sick. Big babies. Right? So in my head, I'm like, okay, well, like, if your partner kind of is like, I don't know more the big baby when they're sick then I get how you could kind of be like he's not that sick but this person is very clearly sick to almost pass out at the airport or well passed out at the airport and then almost fainted going up the stairs they're sick and let's add this it's even worse traveling and having to travel when you're sick it's torturous to know you have to get on a plane and go through an airport Oh, my gosh.

42:10It's awful. No, I have a friend that got food poisoning on her flight back from London. Oh, on the flight? On the flight. She had to, like, lay down in the galley with the flight attendants, like, putting ice on her neck. That's the worst. It was— Food poisoning. Yeah. I've gotten food poisoning, I think, twice in life. And it's the most grueling, excruciating experience. You feel like you're going to die. Uh-huh. Right? And it's just like, imagine getting that on a plane. That and like norovirus on a plane. Oh, norovirus. Norovirus, it just comes out both ends. Yeah, see, I've had like, I don't know if it's been that virus, but I've had it.

42:47Oh, it's, yeah. The worst. It's really bad. So I need the person that I'm going to spend my life with. Even if I'm a big baby when I get a cold or a head cold and you're like tougher. I think women are tougher in general. Let me just say that. Y 'all have babies. if men had to have babies, wouldn't be no babies. Nope. I'm telling you. No chance. Right. You'll have to knock them up like against his will. That's how it happens. God, there's no way. I'm telling you. So I'm telling you right now, women are the tougher of men and women. I have zero issue saying that. But if I'm telling you, I'm not well, can you get this for me?

43:30And you can't do it or you're just like so annoyed with me. And I'm not saying you can't be annoyed inside. Yeah. Keep it inside and still do it. Like, why do you want to see your partner suffer? That's right. Like, at the end of the day, like, he's suffering. Yeah. Dehydrated. Yeah. Dehydration can lead to really big issues. Yeah. Like, why do you want to see him suffer? What happened to caring and empathy? Don't you like him? Yeah. It sounds like I don't like you, man. Don't you at least like him? It sounds like he's an enemy. And she's like, oh, how does it feel now? You would do that for a friend or a roommate.

44:06Like, you won't do it for your fiance? Now I want to, like, I'm curious as to just, like, their dynamic when both are healthy. Like, is he, like, not helpful when she needs help with stuff? And now the shoe's on the other foot. And she's kind of, like, being passive-aggressive about it. Like, you don't help me when I say I need help about, you know, with this thing. Yeah. And now that you're down, well, you can wait. Not cool. I am going to see if we have any comments from OP. I would love to see comments. So Reddit made this new feature where you can hide your comments now. Can you really? Yeah, and it's really hard for me to find comments from people.

44:49But someone, Muse on Spotify, left me a comment and gave me a hack. Come on, Muse. So I'm going to try it. You just search just a blank space. and then enter and it'll pull up posts. Really? Muse, you're so good. Come on, Muse. Shout out to Muse. You're so good, Muse. Come on. This is why you let comments happen on Spotify, baby. This is why we need comments. So I guess OP asked, like, why didn't you get it? Like, what was the issue? And OP says, I tried to talk about it. She said she didn't want to be rude to her mom who was staying with us by leaving. That was her excuse. Put your mom in the car.

45:30Say, hey, mom, you want to go for a ride? We'll grab some coffee while we're out. Yeah. And you get it and you make a little errand. Your mom would have loved spending time with you. Absolutely. Or say, mom, I got to run out. He's sick and I need to get him some stuff. That's it. She might have some tips. People were commenting, why didn't you just go get it yourself? Who are these people? Evil. Evil. And OP's like, I didn't want to shit in my pants and pass out again. Right. as I'm driving a moving vehicle, a 2 ,000-pound car. Like, come on, man. Yeah, if he's passing out. Like, seriously. It's so dangerous.

46:03It's dangerous. It really is. And people, like, can we just say this? People die from the flu. Like, people actually, it's common enough where we don't think about it, but people actually die from it every year. I know. Like, a lot of people, actually. Yeah, like, let's not get it twisted. I know, and dehydration is, like, a really big cause of that. Yeah. Yeah. So OP does say this is the first time I have been vulnerable around her. Like this is the first time I really needed help. When she asks for help, I make it my number one priority, even from small stuff to whatever. If she asks me to do something, I try to drop everything and do it.

46:40this is not the woman for you. Wow. This is not the woman for you. I know it hurts to hear this. You got to walk away. You do. You got to walk away. She's showing you who she is. She's saying, I don't care about the pain that you're in. Well, and her excuse is just not. It's lame. Like, I didn't want to be rude to my mom. I didn't want to leave while she was here. I was going to go after she left. But yet you kept talking and I get you want to catch up with your mom but like ask her to go like for me i would have been like hey mom like i'm gonna run to the store quick one it's 15 minutes hey mom i'm gonna go to the store you want to come with like right there's two options he's sick i need to get some stuff come with me insane insane insane inexcusable i know and i know people out there are gonna be like really to break up like they're engaged like to break up over this it's that serious it is that serious and it's better to do it now than later and i promise you it will come up later it will and it'll be worse i know it's going to translate into other areas yeah and when you say to to your point about the vows and sickness and health and she says i do she's going to be lying it's gonna be lying proof is not in the pudding with that one exactly right i mean like she's showing you so don't set it up Before I even lie, just break it off now.

47:58You have an actual experience with her. You have actual evidence. Walk away. I know it's not easy. Would you give it one more shot? I mean, being sick with the flu is not a common occurrence typically. Like, would you have a really big heart to heart and give it one more shot? I'm big on talking and big on trying to talk things out. But for me, there was almost like enough chances in the asking and in the situation unfolding. Like, why didn't she just take charge? If I get married one day and I'm open to it, I need to feel like the person can hold me down when I'm not at my best. If I can't feel like or if I don't feel like the person can hold me down when I can't do it.

48:51And we never know what life is going to throw at us, right? You never know what's going to happen. You never know what's going to happen with your health. I've been blessed with really great health. That's one of the greatest blessings of my life. Yeah. But you never know what's going to happen. You can step off the curb and God forbid, right? And if I feel that she wouldn't be willing to take care of me, if the absolute worst thing happens, I can't marry her. and that's how I would feel. I would talk to her about it. I'd be so hurt. For me, it wouldn't be any coming back from it. I had a close friend.

49:30I had a little, very minor outpatient surgery one time. I'll tell you what it is. I had a little cyst on my back. Yeah. And it was like this size and then it got infected. Oh, how painful. Oh, yeah. And it was sore to the touch. Like, it felt like somebody was putting a match and it was like right here just under my left shoulder blade. And like that's constantly getting bumped and rubbed. Yeah. So even when as dudes like, yo, what's up? Oh. That hand, the dab hand, the other hand, the hug hand. I can feel it. It was painful. Gotta go. This thing like got painful really fast. Yeah. So it was an outpatient thing and I was going to be out same day and a friend, a close friend of mine who I like bought groceries for before when she couldn't afford groceries for herself paid for her to have like a month-long metro card in between jobs that she couldn't afford.

50:23And I'm talking about I did this and said up front like you don't owe me anything. Oh my gosh. This is just, you know, she was in need. She was vulnerable. And I said, yep. Here, take my card. Go to the store. Bring my card back and get you a 30-day metro card. This same person wouldn't stop by to see me when I got home. One, they didn't go and waited in the waiting room. Another wonderful friend did. I walked home from the hospital. It's walking distance. Yeah, but still, like. The person literally did not stop by. Doomsie, no. They said they went and had dinner with another friend a few blocks away from where I lived at the time.

51:05We can't be friends. Yeah. Not even to stop by before or after the dinner? Yo, did not stop. Dude. Yo, Morgan, they didn't stop by to see me that day. When people show you who they are. You got to listen. You got to listen. Toni Morrison. You got to listen. You got to listen, man. Yeah. Yeah. That's insane. Listen to what she's telling you through her actions and lack thereof. Yeah. Listen. Absolutely. That's crazy. I know. Top comment. Well, lucky you found out now before you got married. That's what I'm saying. That's what you're saying. You want it now before. Really, that's what's supposed to happen during the engagement, right?

51:44Yeah. I mean, I've never been engaged. you've been engaged successfully, I might add. Yeah. You're still, we're not testing. We're evaluating though. Yeah. Right? It's just like another serious step. And it's like even more so like, you know, when you're in that engaged period, depending on what you're doing for your wedding, like a lot of stressful things pop up. Right. Hard conversations. Establishing boundaries. It really is this like evolution of your relationship and like, can we make it at this next level? Yes. Because then once you're married, it's another level up. It's like Donkey Kong or Mario.

52:18It's just like you're going up through the levels. It keeps getting harder. And it gets harder. And can you make it? If you're not with the right person, it's going to fall apart. You're going to fall apart. That's right. So you got to make sure you got a good one next to you. I like that. I like the video game analogy. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's hard. You don't restart. I love these situations you found. I'm loving these. I know. I've got some more good ones. Let's go. This episode is brought to you by Chrysler. Life with kids is basically a never-ending series of plot twists. One minute, everyone's buckled in.

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53:25So I'm going to let you pick because they're somewhat similar. Okay. Option number one, my husband frequently jokes about my family. His attitude is rubbing off on our son and I want it to stop. Wait, family in general or her side of the family? Her side Oh Okay, let's hear the next one, the other option Or option two Which is also coming from our Too Hot Takes subreddit I just heard what my partner's family really thought about me And I don't think I can be with my partner anymore I want to start with that one Okay The other one I want to talk about too The other one's good too You want to get in that one too?

54:06Okay, we'll do both I want to start with this one though. Okay, so this is, again, from our very own Too Hot Takes subreddit. So this is, there's a good chance it's one of our listeners. Okay. And it's eight hours old. Okay, so we want to deal with this. Okay. And get in the comments too. Yeah. And let us know what you think about what we got to say. I just heard what my partner's family really thought about me, and I don't think I can be with my partner anymore. Okay. My female 31 partner, female 32, has access to her work. It's a family business. CCTV cameras. which also have audio. It is toxic for her to listen to them, but she does.

54:43I have never once heard my name, but this time I did while she was sitting in my car listening to segments of this specific day. I, of course, got curious and said I wanted to hear what was said. My partner instantly got defensive and said that it's rude to listen and tried to jump out of the car. I grabbed her, pulled her back in, and I insisted that she let me listen. She tried to keep me from listening, but I was not taking no for an answer as it would just eat me to not know what was said. She then said that I could listen as long as she listened first. Well, she, after listening, really wanted to just sum it up for me.

55:23I insisted I had to hear the whole thing. Finally, she gave in, but was crying and basically begging me not to listen. What I heard was not unexpected, but was eye-opening, to say the least. Oof. They said that I am ungrateful for not helping them redo a house that they bought for my partner to live in. But in the past, when I did offer input or to help, it wasn't appreciated or wanted. Okay. They think I'm an over-opinionated bitch who doesn't know when to shut up. I'm just laughing at the boldness when you hear it. Oh, the audacity. The audacity. Because when they are making disparaging statements towards minority groups or things that are ignorant or along those lines, I don't stay silent.

56:14You're here. Shout out to you. They also stated that they were the reason my son even has a halfway decent life. Damn. Which I don't understand because I live by myself, pay for everything myself. Right. And they just gift him at holidays or when they go on vacations. Right. The only thing I can think is that it's related to these other statements, and that's the real kicker. They made fun of my upbringing. They made fun of my background and said that I came from nothing. Dang. As if just associating with them has improved my life. Huh. I grew up poor and have had a harder life than most would own up to.

56:51Yeah. I'm a loving person despite this, and I'm a hardworking person. I have everything I do because I work 50-plus hours a week. Wow. I worked my way up to a salaried retail store manager position and do things with integrity. They even accused me of getting close to grandma for seemingly nefarious reasons. What? Mind you, I love grandma and she's the sweetest human. There was one time when I was in the middle of my divorce from my ex-husband that they did offer to pay my deposit for my lawyer. It was$3 ,000 and I didn't know how I was going to pay it. but I was extremely hesitant to take the money because I never want someone to have something to hold over my head.

57:31Right. I've never been able to forget that they have done this for me, and it's been six years. I've offered to pay it back. I've tried to pay it back, and they won't take a payment. They've even gone so far as to PayPal me back money I've given them. How do I get past this? I know my partner is going to try and push this under the rug, as she always does, but I've blocked everyone's numbers and socials. I just haven't blocked my partner. There can't be a future like this, but I don't think I could forget hearing all of that. They're engaged or? They are just partners. Partners, okay. And no mention how long they've specifically been together, but OP, you know, does mention like divorce six years ago and the family helped pay for it.

58:22So they've been in each other's lives for some time. And there was some overlap or at least she was separated from her husband and they helped pay. It could have been friends before. Who knows? Right. That's a great point. Unclear. Great point. Okay. Unclear. So what came to mind, this is why I asked if they're engaged. Okay. Because I thought this needs premarital counseling. Counseling. Which everyone should do regardless. Therapy, counseling, you need guidance from a professional. And this sounds like it needs counseling. Now, even if they don't do joint counseling, I think the person who heard all of this, I think she needs, if she doesn't already get therapy, I think this is a good time.

59:08Because whether they stay together or not, I think there are a lot of things from her past and upbringing that she's hurt by and that she's carrying. Because it feels like she talks about it a lot because they know a lot about. Yeah. Like a lot of that, right? And she may carry that around a lot. And I think a lot of that needs to be unpacked. So I think first and foremost, she needs to have that explored for herself. Right. Yeah, maybe to heal from. I mean, growing up and having a harder upbringing and not as fair of a playing field as someone else, that does give you a chip on your shoulder.

59:49It does. And you carry it. And then when people then use it against you, you're like, that wound is reopened. That's right. And it's right there. It's right there. It's so fresh. So it seems like just reading between the lines, I think we're picking up on some healing that needs to happen within herself first. And until that happens, she won't be able to get past this. I wouldn't. I have a hard time. Like once the glass is broken, like you can't put it back together. I'm the same. I can't unring the bell. And when you hear someone saying such mean, disparaging things about you, I wouldn't be able to forget it.

1:00:32Yeah. Especially people that you have to go celebrate Thanksgiving and Christmas together and smile over a turkey. No, you think I'm an over-opinionated bitch who doesn't know when to shut up. You think I'm ungrateful. you think I'm beneath you because I had a different upbringing that's crazy my family was poor like they don't like you they don't like you they genuinely they don't like anything about anything and then they're like about her son about her son so questioning your skills as a mother or how you provide it for your son these people do not like you and you're also in with the family when you're in with the person.

1:01:17And that part can make her break a lot. Now, her partner, what's up with the voyeurism on the CCTV? Like, she's made her own reality show. Does her family even know she's doing this? I don't know. Let me see if there's any comments. Yeah, because that... That's also another form of self-harm because you're like, are you trying to catch them talking about you and then you accidentally found this? but like what is what's this family dynamic? What do you want to see? It makes me think the family dynamic is really dramatic and like maybe toxic because why are you watching that? Yeah because you don't trust them so her partner doesn't trust her own family and she's watching this with sound like a TV show every day.

1:02:04It's wild. Now to me, trust issues there. I know you're looking up the comments in the meantime but if she doesn't trust her family is she going to fully trust you? Where does this start and stop? You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, she does it over here, but she won't do it over here. Nah, I don't know about that. I wouldn't trust that. No. It sounds like somebody that goes through your phone. True, which that can be a red flag. Yes. Would you, I guess like looking at this, clearly family has some issues, maybe toxic. Yeah. The partner, you know, the one that's writing in kind of had that comment at the end that was like, she's going to try to sweep this under the rug like she does everything else.

1:02:44Yeah. That to me worried me. That's a lot there. Because I'm like, well, she's not going to have your back then against her family. That's right. And so in my head, I'm like, I think you could proceed forward with this person if she was willing to make some changes and set boundaries. Absolutely. Maybe go low contact with them. She's got to really reprimand them though. She has to. You just got to like really have a conversation and lay the hammer down and get this little story straight. Yeah, because it's like, this is what you think of the person I'm with. And it's like, so what happened? What did she say that you didn't like?

1:03:20They got to get to the bottom of that. Because even with the conversation, does that make them like her? Probably not. They'll be more pissed off because it came up. This, I don't know if this is fixable. I don't know, Morgan. and this sounds irreparable to me. Well, there's a comment here from OP too. Okay. To be fair, she wasn't present for this conversation, but these are things that I can say she has heard before. I can guarantee. She didn't seem surprised by their statements, only upset that I was going to hear them straight from their mouths with no filter. You know, I'm going to add something.

1:03:56We got to be careful what we say about our partners to our families and even to our friends. Yeah. Yeah. We need to protect them. Venting can go wrong. Yes. Because a lot of times we tend to vent about things that we find annoying or frustrating about them or this thing they did that was wrong, or at least from your perspective, it was wrong. And now all your family is hearing is negative, negative, negative, negative, negative, negative, negative. And then she comes around the family and then maybe they have a debate about something and they said something and she challenges them on it. They didn't like that.

1:04:34Then it's all of this. And you might've set the table for them to view your partner as somebody that doesn't know when to shut up and da-da-da-da, you know, and all this other stuff. A lot of that could have been based on stuff that she said. Because how do they know some of this stuff? Probably because you said it. I think a lot of the details, yeah. They're very personal details. Very personal. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. I think I'm more on the boat of like there's no way forward with this one. Hit the eject button. Well, especially this comment from OP. Okay. I swear she gets off on people not liking me.

1:05:15Oh, you got to go. See, I knew it. I knew it. My spidey sense is never wrong. What the heck? Yeah, she's bad-mouthing. So let me say it another way. She's bad-mouthing her all the time. That's what this is. She's bad-mouthing her. So team partner, they're all going to be just not liking her. I know. And I think OP like kind of shares here that like there's a little bit of a fear in breaking up. Like it's hard being a lesbian in a town where there are 10 of us and they're all my partner's exes. But I will not settle for this. Please don't settle. Yeah. There's somebody for you that will love you for you and appreciate your upbringing and the struggle that you went through that has made you the hardworking, successful person that you are now.

1:06:08And you'll be able to love who you want to love. But there are people out there who will treat you better than this and their families will treat you better than this. Yeah, 100%. And like they have been together six years. That's in the comments. um op also shares things like she's extremely classist and like sounds like i mean her family sounds classist yeah beneath you know she most definitely is i've never i'm just i've never in my life just even had the thought pass through my mind of like someone's beneath me the concept of that is so crazy it's nuts it's it's pretty sick i'm like we're all humans yeah like we're all We're humans and we have different life circumstances that have happened.

1:06:53Some we had no say in whatsoever. Yeah. No, I can't imagine in your head thinking I'm better than someone. Like that to me is like, I'm not better than anyone. No. I'm one person. I'm just one person giving my opinion. I'm not the opinion. No, not at all. I'm like, we got to like, we are so much bigger than just ourselves. Oh, absolutely. Couldn't agree more. It's so insane to me. Yeah, and I couldn't be around, and I'm a pretty loving person and accepting person, and I love having conversations with people who have opposing views in mind. But where I draw the line is when you think you're above another person.

1:07:34How dare you? No. It's gross. It's gross. She's got to run. You got to run. She's got to run. Run. Yeah, your kid doesn't deserve to be around that type of behavior either. Yeah. all of this family looking at him like, you only have anything because of a... No. Yeah. He's got stuff because of his hardworking, driven mom. Yeah. Just weirdos. Molly girl, you in danger. Run. Get out of there. Get out of Dodge. Why you care? Top comment. Okay. I think it's time to take a break from this relationship. 1 ,000%. Bitching in-laws are so pedestrian, but this is so blatant. It takes it to a new level. Why would she let them do this?

1:08:16What payoff is in it for her? Because I don't think it's worth it for you. I couldn't agree more. And yeah, hugs. Big hugs. We love you. We support you. You can do better than this. That I can tell you. Yeah. You can do better all by yourself. This ain't it. No, you gotta move forward. And hey, maybe, you know, maybe there's a little traveling on your horizon. That's right. Because you got to break out of that town. You could. Yeah. She calls it nowheresville or something in a comment. And I'm like, maybe it's time to dip your toes in a new city. I think so. New city, new dating pool. New dating pool.

1:08:52That could be fun. Plenty more. Yeah, man. That could be fun. That could be a lot of fun. It could be. I think it's time. It is time. Moving along to this next one. Let's do it. This next one is super, super strange. Okay. I'm still trying to wrap my head around it, okay? All right. So it is titled, Boyfriend, 24 Male, Doesn't Agree to Come to the Initiation Party with Me, 24 Female Family, Also Upset About the Rules, Which Doesn't Allow Couples. Wait, wait, wait. Tell me about initiation for what? I know. Oh, it didn't say yet. No. This is about to get crazy. Let's bring it. Let's bring it. Let's do it.

1:09:33Let's do it. We have a family tradition for over 40 years. We throw parties regularly with people, but we don't allow significant others to come. Basically, only you attend or your significant other attends, but never together at the same time. The idea is you get to know and build individual relationships between everyone. You can also only come to four parties consecutively. After that, it's your significant other's turn and you won't be invited anymore. Like ever? Oh, until the other person goes to their four. Until your significant other comes to a party. After that, you can attend the next four before needing the significant other to come again.

1:10:19Obviously, single people can attend all of them. When someone begins dating a new person, that person is invited to a party to get to know others, and this will be an initiation into the family. and this is the situation with me and my boyfriend right now. We've been dating for three months. My cousin already talked to him and invited him to come, obviously without me, to the next party so that he can be initiated into the family. The next party is in a week. Boyfriend doesn't want to come. He's like, I'm out. I don't want to be a part of this. This is weird. It's weird. I'd be out too. This sounds like, did you see that movie?

1:11:01literally are you thinking get out no well get out is another one get out this is get out level okay but there's another movie and i think the couple is about to get married or okay and they're in this big mansion and it's like some game night thing they do and basically hide and seek thing yeah and they like if that's it if she survives the morning they get married or something yeah they're making a sequel for that by the way i just read that oh my god weeks ago i've wanted to see that. I'm kind of scared of scary movies, though. It's not scary in the sense of, like, hereditary. Like, it's not Ari Aster scary.

1:11:41That movie, I still have nightmares. Yeah, it's haunted. Okay, so it's more of a thriller? Yeah, it's more of a thriller kind of thing. And it's a little campy. This has get out and hide and seek vibes all over it. Your partner's never going to be seen again. Her boyfriend is never going to be seen. Where's he going? Why does he got to go by himself? Yes. And then he gets invited on the side. I would be out too. I'm like, no, I'm good. This sounds like murders. I know. Like, what? And they're only three months in. Like, that's scary. I thought about that too. That's too soon. Initiated into the family?

1:12:19Three months. Like, literally, initiation into the family. Nah, I'm good. Why does he need to be initiated? And who's your family? Why are we initiating? Yeah, well, initiating to do what? to go to a party? It's giving cult. It's giving cult. It's giving old, old money. I mean, yeah, they've been doing this tradition for 40 years. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, this sounds like, yeah, y 'all vampires or something? It could be. This gives me vampire vibes. Something is up here. Yeah. I wouldn't want to go, like, be new to the relationship. No. I mean, I feel like you don't really even know your partner at three months.

1:12:56That takes a year. Yes. I don't want to go meet your family alone. Without you? Without you? I don't even know you like that. Yeah, I would only go to be around your family for you. It's not for me. It's not for me. It's for you. I got a family. Like, what? So I don't know. Yeah, that shows they also have like this really elevated, I'm going to say inflated view of their family. Yeah. Like, oh, you get to go and I can't go. I'm good. I also wouldn't want to keep going to these parties without my partner. I agree. You want to experience that together though. But it's like, it's supposed to be like life.

1:13:32That's right. I hate when people aren't inclusive. I agree. Like, let's just do this together. You know what? People have this thing. It's like a dark side of human nature where there's like somebody has to be in and somebody has to be out. I literally was just talking about this the other day. Yeah. The psychology of like the in group versus the out group. Yeah. Yeah. And people just do that. And it's like, people do it in, you know, workspaces. They do it in schools. Any place where there are human beings gathering, there has to be an in-group and an out-group. And I was always the kid. Like, even in, like, elementary, high school, I would seek out the people who were, like, the out-crowd.

1:14:11Like, people naturally gravitated towards me. So I would always go learn their names and say what's up and just, like, find something to talk about and just be cool with everybody. Because I can't. It pains me to see people on the outside. No, you are, that was one thing I was like last night, I was like trying to like think about how to like describe you in the intro of this. And like one way I think of you is like you are such a bridge between people and like culture and like you are a connector. And so like that doesn't surprise me learning that about you. Like you're just your glue. Like you're the glue that kind of holds everything together.

1:14:47Thank you for saying that. That means a lot to me because that's who I've always been. And it's really wild. And I'm so appreciative and grateful that my life's work now is being that. Like this is essentially my work to be this bridge and connector between people and culture and the artists they love. You're literally, that's what you do. Like it's so crazy. Thank you for saying that. I appreciate that. That means a lot to me. Your tire's feeling pumped over there? Yes, I feel good. I feel inflated. We talked about being inflated. I feel nice. It's all so genuine. I really appreciate that. That means a lot to me.

1:15:25This situation, get out. You gotta run. Get out. Literally. Because you don't want to be in a sunken place. That movie. We snap our fingers and then that single tear comes out your eye and the TV comes. Get out of there. Did you ever see Skeleton Key? I heard it. I know that movie. Wait, wait, wait. Is that? I know who that is That is Kate Hudson Kate Hudson It's one of her early ones Yeah It is I think one of my favorite Kate Hudson movies And it's so scary I feel like I saw it When it came I see like Almost anything Yeah I feel like I saw it Back in the day But I'm gonna revisit it Because I don't remember I remember it was like Down in the bayou Kind of thing In this house But I don't remember The plot specifically Yeah It is so good And I feel like A lot of people when Get Out came out, they were like, oh, there's a little, like, maybe inspiration or something.

1:16:21But it's really, it's really good. Okay, I'm going to revisit that. Really good movie. I'm going to go back and see that again. Kate Hudson's Oscar nominated right now, too. For what? Song Song Blue. Oh, my gosh, yeah. What is that? It's on, um... It's the Neil Diamond. It's Hugh Jackman. Yes. It's the Neil Diamond tribute band based on a true story. So this is a true story. and this is the movie version of a documentary that was made about this band. That's cool. Yeah. I need to watch it. Yeah. I haven't seen it yet but I'm going to see Skeleton Key and then I'm going to see Song Song Blue. I just love her.

1:16:56Everything she's doing lately. Did you see the Netflix show with her, the basketball one? No, I missed that one. It's like her doing comedy and she is funny. I totally missed that. She's the female heir to basically the Lakers but it's not the Lakers in the show. And she tries to save the empire. I totally missed this. She's so good. Okay, I'm going to binge that. You got some stuff to get on. Yeah, yeah, I got some stuff to binge. Okay. So we do have a couple comments from OP. I would love to hear. So someone goes, three months is very fresh. Completely understandable that he doesn't feel comfortable with this.

1:17:31Right. Does he even know anyone in your family yet? Yeah. Apart from the cousin who asked him to come. Maybe he will come to one of those parties when you've been together for longer and he knows at least someone. Yeah. And OP goes, well, he's seen a few people, but these parties are for this specific reason, for him to get to know everyone. A hard pass. I'm not doing it. Let's just keep it to, like, the holidays when everyone's together. Yeah, man, like... See you then. It seems like this family's just planning parties all year, too. It's like, this is a lot. Well, and, like, you have to go to four?

1:18:04Like, that's so much. Yeah, that means somebody's keeping tabs and somebody has a spreadsheet. somewhere like what are we doing i know so i think someone does ask about that so someone goes this is so odd so many rules who keeps track of this exactly see this is this is where my mind goes you're on it you're so like tapped in because i'm like who wait somebody's keeping track of this and yeah we got a google sheet yeah like what like this google sheet has to be so long so op responds we have a book where we record attendance details. Nah, man. They're taking like minutes. They're calling roll.

1:18:41Yeah, no. Like somebody like has a like a pen and quill, like the, you know, the pens with the inkwell. Yeah, the inkwell. Yeah, like writing a calligraphy. No, I'm good. And 40 years of a book. 40 years of this. So this big old book, it's like a scroll they probably write on and like, nah, I'm good. He won't come back alive. He will never be seen from or heard from again. And there'll be a Dateline episode about what happened to this guy. Yeah, this is going to be on like surviving this cult. Exactly. It's coming out on Netflix. It's coming out. Yeah, I'm going to call him up. You know what? We're going to be executive producers.

1:19:17This is, I'm down. This dude. I'm down. I'm going to narrate it too. A lot of people start asking, this feels cult-like. This made me feel uncomfortable to even read. Exactly. I wouldn't go if I were him. Yeah. And OP responds, oh my God, it's just a party with a lot of drinks and very friendly people. Spooky. I don't buy it. This is spooky. Stay away. Live. Also, here's another fun rule OP shares. Old people aren't even invited. Once you turn 40, you're out. See what I'm saying? This is some game of death. What do you mean once you turn 40? Then what? Yeah, this is definitely cult stuff. I'm so scared.

1:19:59Yeah, this is so... Did you see the movie Blink Twice? No. Channing Tatum, Zoe Kravitz wrote it and directed it. This was her directorial debut. I won't give away any details. This is giving Blink Twice as well. All I'm going to say is they go to some island, get invited to an island. Channing Tatum's like this big tech titan that has all this money. Oh my gosh, okay. I saw the trailer for it. Yeah, and he invites people to this island. Looked really good. This feels Blink Twice meets Get Out. meets hide and seek plus skeleton key sprinkled on there. 100%. Yeah. Last comment I'll read because someone goes, why can't you come after 40?

1:20:38What happens after 40? Exactly. And Opie goes, you grow too old for this. There is a party for 40 plus people too, but that one is simpler. I would hope so. So everybody after 40 somehow survived. Yeah, they survived. Maybe they were the killer that gets to live. Like that person is going to be a sacrifice. That's what it is. This person is going to go and they're going to be a human sacrifice to whatever pagan god that they're worshiping at these parties. You know, I was thinking in my head, I was like, is this a little Midsommary? Did you see that one? Yes, I already asked her. That one, I saw that movie and hereditary, scary as hell, but I loved it.

1:21:22Midsommar, I'm going to tell you the truth. I wanted to see it. I wanted to see it by myself because I couldn't get anybody to go with me. Oh, because it's really scary. Oh, my God. Right? So I go to see it. That's the first movie. No, not the first. That's one of a handful of movies I walked out. And I said, what was the point of that? Not in the sense of the plot, but it's so creepy and brutal. And at the end, I was like, I'm super confused and scared. And poor Florence Pugh just crying. And I was like, I can't take this. I know. I said, I will never watch that movie again. I know. So in my head, I was like, is this a little Midsommar?

1:21:56Like maybe they're in Sweden or like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But it feels like that kind of thing. So OP shares that they live in Switzerland. See? Which is not, okay, it's not Sweden. No, no, no, no. But it's like over, you know, across the pond from us. Yeah, like. Different culture. Beautiful people and they have some traditions that we don't fully understand as Americans. And you may not come back alive. I know. someone does say please show him pictures from the event so he knows that he won't be sacrificed I don't believe they'll so wait you can't bring in a person that are gonna allow you to take pictures I know this is a no phone event this is an event they're collecting your phone at the gate and there is a gate this isn't a place that doesn't have a gate no there's a security code there's a security code there's a gate a big metal ornate gate that swings it swings open you know what I mean like it opens really slowly yeah as it goes and then you get to come in so you can't just run out the front door and run on the street this is a house that you don't want any parts of this how much would it take for you to go I can't do it, I want to live, my life is worth too much what about you, is there an amount um, Switzerland I do want to go, same, Switzerland you know maybe first class ticket oh no doubt, delta one baby as long as I know I'm going to survive for sure, I'd do it 100k If I know I'm going to survive Maybe 50 Give me the 100 Because there's something creepy going on there Yeah, something's up Something you don't want to do Or even see I can guarantee you Is going down at this function This event Yeah, it's going 100, 250 for this one Okay Again, with the guarantee That I live Yeah, see, if it's not a guarantee, then it'd have to be a lot and it'd have to be in my account for my family.

1:23:59Yes. You know, guaranteed. Yes, like if I'm not coming back like, this is for y 'all, I'm doing this for y 'all. Doing this for you guys. Love ya. Love y 'all. Yeah. Tell Justin I love him. Yeah, literally. This is wild. I know. Who are these people? I would like to know. I'm intrigued. I know. We probably have some listeners in Switzerland. If you have a friend of a friend who's heard about this family, please let us know if this is a cultural thing. Yeah. Is there something we're missing? Are we over-dramatizing it? Yeah. You know? Put it in the comments, please. Put it in the comments. Let us know.

1:24:35I want to know. I know. I'm dying to know. I know. I do want people to also help on this next story because I feel like you're going to have some comments about maybe your own interactions with famous people. because this next one's really fun. Okay, okay. You know Dolly Parton, right? Yes. Well, like you know of her. Yes. You honestly, knowing you, you probably met her too. No, you know what I'm saying? I was like, did I meet? I met her virtually. She just seems like the best lady. She is amazing. Yeah, I met her during a pandemic virtually and she was fantastic. I interviewed her virtually. Oh my God.

1:25:09For what? For our music team. We did this really cool thing during a pandemic. You know, we couldn't all be together. Yeah. So every single week we had a music team happy hour. I would host it for the team. Yeah. And we would have a special guest drop in. How do I get on these calls? I mean, it was pretty crazy. Dolly is just like. It was Dolly Parton. It was Cynthia Erivo. Cheer was really big. Remember the show Cheer on Netflix? I think Monica Aldama. She came through. I mean, but it was like. Yeah. Wow. All these like really big, really cool celebrities. That's amazing. Gwen Stefani. So what I would do is I would make breakfast while interviewing the celebrities for the team, just for their enjoyment and entertainment, just to help us get through the pandemic.

1:25:57I did that every single week for about a year and a half. That is amazing. It was pretty awesome. So Dolly was awesome. So Dolly's awesome. Icon. This next one's about Dolly. Okay. So this is coming from r slash off my chest. Okay. It's people confessing things. And you're going to hear this story and, you know, believe it, don't believe it. Let me know what you guys think about it. Yeah, let us know. So it's titled, I met Dolly Parton one time and she farted in front of me. I'm going to spit this water. This is not what happened. I did not expect this to go. Everybody farts, though. Everybody farts.

1:26:34It's a natural human bodily function. Okay, Dolly Parton. This was a long time ago, and every time I tell this story, nobody believes me. Okay. But here we go. I'm a huge Dolly Parton fan, as I'm sure everybody probably is. She's sweet and talented. We were getting autographs signed after a concert one night, and Dolly just straight up lets one rip. Not a quiet one, but one where it was loud enough for me to hear. I started laughing a little. I couldn't help it. It was unexpected. She said, sorry, I was holding that in the whole show. I believe this story, by the way. I believe it. I'm telling you right now, I believe it.

1:27:15I started laughing even more. After she did that, she just smiled and jokingly said, what's the matter? Can't handle a little Tennessee thunder? This is great. I've never laughed so much in my life. After I got my autograph, I walked away. she cracked another joke and said I'll make sure it's in the key of G next time instead of the key of G's what in the world she was like on fire after that I mean get Dolly doing stand up come on man she was like rattling them off off the cuff and that's what OP goes on to say to be able to come up with jokes like that on the spot is impressive in itself I got an experience that most people probably would have paid for and on top of that I got jokes with it too I'm ashamed to say that Dolly Parton farting is my big celebrity meetup moment.

1:28:08But hey, it could have been a lot worse. They say never meet your heroes, but sometimes you'll get an experience that really sticks with you. I like it. Yeah. I love it, actually. Meeting your heroes can be really scary. It can be. And people can let you down. Yeah. Because how you picture them, remember we talked about it earlier. Yeah. It's the thing you know them for. so you want them to be that and when that thing is not necessarily them every day like my thing is me right djx is me there's there's no separation between what you hear and who i am that's kind of me too i'm like that what you see is mostly what you get a little different obviously of course like it's it's heightened versions of ourselves for the medium that we're in at that moment Exactly.

1:28:56The people you're with. Absolutely. Who you're with changes your energy. Absolutely. It totally can. So this has been so easy and fun because this is who we are. And this is literally what we do. We talk and we - We just talk. We gab. Yeah, we gab and we talk about stuff that's happening in the world. And we have our takes on it. So the meeting your heroes is very, very tricky. And how you approach them matters too. I know. Now, in this context, I love it because it sounds like she was at a meet and greet after a show. Meet and greet, yeah. So this is designed for that. Yeah. The person knows what they're there to do.

1:29:33Dolly knows what she's there to do. She's there to sign autographs, probably take a picture. You probably paid, not probably, you definitely paid extra for it. It's a win-win. Now, the meeting your heroes. Now, I know people do have, I'm sure people, if you have nightmare stories from meet and greets, put it in the comments, please. Yeah, put just any, like, meetup. I'd love to know. Yeah. I run into a lot of people at Costco. That's where people find me. It's Costco. Yeah, I was trying out a mattress recently. And someone walks by and she's like, I love the show. And I'm like, hi. Thank you. Do they ask you to do a particular thing when they meet you?

1:30:09Or do they feel like you're already friends? So oddly, I'm kind of like you. I get recognized the most from my voice. That makes sense, though. Yeah. It's such an intimate thing. And there's this like connection that's formed there that's just really, really strong. But it's that thing. I'm in Ubers and I always speak to the driver. And wait, wait a minute. I'm like, yeah, good to meet you. It's really special. People always want, they always want a hug with me. They always want a hug. They always tell me how they or their families or the people in their household or their friend group listen to me and interact.

1:30:50and they always want to tell me about that. And they always either want to, they always want a selfie or a video. Yeah, because they want your voice. Yeah, they want a voice. They want the voice in it. So they're like, can you do the intro or just say my name or... It's so cool. It's just so amazing. And again, like we, you especially, I think like really curating two people's moods and what they want to listen to. And I really think it's like you're present during some of the best times. That's right. Some of the hardest times. so it really is just it's that parasocial where it's like but I think yours is so much more interesting because they feel like you know them I'm telling you that is so special that flipping that part around insane my mind is blown so nobody's ever ever ever that I've been in situations where like it's been a lot of people and they know who I am and they're all so kind and they're just so happy and I'm happy to meet them people ask me all the time like does it ever get tiring or older no please say hi Say what's up.

1:31:48If you see me, say hi. Yeah, if you see Morgan, please say hi. She's sweet. I'm telling you this is who she is. Don't be, don't, I'm telling you this, though. Don't be weird. I'm shy. No, I'm shy and awkward. So, like, we'll be fine. Like, I'm going to be more awkward than you. Trust me. Trust me. But I love when people say hi. But say hi. Let her know what you think about the show and how it impacts you and gets you through your day. Please do that. Yeah. And say hi. Same for ex. Say what's up. Tell him what's up. Yeah. Say what's up. Like, you know, New York. So the thing with New York is a lot of people in New York are cool about it because it's a lot of celebrities.

1:32:22You'll walk down the street. Like on the subway. On the subway. You're like, what? Somebody took a picture of Tom Hanks on the subway. He had a mask on and they recognized him. I love his wife. Well, it's funny. I love his wife. It's funny that you mentioned. Rita. Rita Wilson. Shout out to Rita Wilson. Shout out, Rita. So at our Best New Artist Party. So Spotify has the Best New Artist Party. If you didn't hear about it, where we have all the Best New Artists. nominees perform. You were there. Olivia Dean, man. Olivia Dean tore the house down. Yeah. The Marias. I love the Maria Samba. Amazing.

1:32:56We're talking about his growth as an artist and a performer. We saw him in Cannes. Alex Warren. Alex Warren, Leon Thomas. Just absolutely amazing party. Lola Young, her first performance since she had taken a break from performing. Health stuff. Health stuff. Addison Rae. So she came back strong. Addison Rae. Cat's Eye. Cat's Eye. I think we got them all. I think we got all eight. That's impressive. There we go. So I'm at the Best New Artist Party. And lo and behold, right next to me is Frida Wilson. I love her. So we get into a conversation just about the performances. She's very into the music.

1:33:30And she had this amazing sequins dress on. And she was just the most lovely person you'd ever want to meet. So we're just having great conversation. Yeah. And we're talking. And at some point, she doesn't assume that I know who she is. so she says hey I'm Rita Rita Wilson I said I know who you are and I say I'm Xavier people call me X and she goes because at the Best New Artist Party I introduce all the artists on performance welcome people so I'm the host of the party and she goes I know who you are I listen to you all we listen to you and I'm like wait wait wait wait Rita Wilson and Tom Hanks listen to DJ X they listen to me it's so wild it really is and it reacts just like everybody else reacts It's so insane.

1:34:16It's so insane. So say hi. Say hi. It's nice. I know. It's lovely. I'm getting better about saying hi to people that I admire too. I was going to ask you about that. I didn't say hi to Bill Nye the Science Guy. Oh, you told me about that. You told me about that. It's like literally I kick myself every day. It's like eating at you, right? Still. So if I see him this year, I say hi to Bill. You have to say hi. I saw Audrey Nuna. I think it's Nuna. I think that's right. From K-pop Demon Hunters. Yeah. so oh she sure was yeah yeah they were there so nice they people appreciate it see this is why you say hi you just say hi and hi this is what i keep it this is what i do i i never i never take on the attitude that i'm too cool to say hi to somebody that has created something or put something out in the world that i appreciate yeah so i just want them to know i don't want to hang out.

1:35:10We ain't got to be friends. No, just hey. Just hey. And I really love your stuff. I love that song or I love. And what I do is, and this makes sense of me being who I am. I take, I usually go into some detail about the thing and how it, and I tell you when you're sincere and they hear that I've never once. Now I know now it's like, well, of course now you're blah, blah, blah, blah. But even before people knew who I was and before I was a public persona, people will stop. and they will be like, thank you. Thank you for saying that. It is life-changing. It really is. It matters. It inspires people even more for me.

1:35:48It does. Like I said, kind of at the top, like I'm dealing with some burnout, you know? Everyone does. We need to talk about that. Everyone does. And so when people come up and like, hey, your podcast has helped me do this or changed my life in this way. I literally, I'm like, the zest for life is restored. Because you know, it's reaching people. Yeah. It makes everything worth it. I know when we were hanging out in LA, we were talking about a particular episode you did. Yeah. And people got tested and people found out what was going on in early detection. And it's literally - Yeah. Colon cancer is like a big thing of mine.

1:36:25Yeah. And it's saving people's lives. I know. I haven't had a chance to do it yet, but I'm like trying to get better about looking after my health. Yeah. And so I had an appointment the other day. I got scanned and they were worried about cancer. I'm good. but like I was just like what the fuck I'm 32 like I'm I'm getting to that age where you really need to start looking at your health and early detection that's right and making sure you're on top of it so breast cancer awareness is October I believe yeah the whole month the pink month yeah colon cancer is like March so just be on it be on your health that's right and um for men prostate cancer is one it's like and now it's just like a prick like a blood yeah and it can tell if like you're potentially in a danger zone.

1:37:09My dad just had a scare. Did he? I mean, everyone you talk to right now is like, Ooh, stuff is popping up. That's right. And what I'm doing this year is like, I'm getting everything checked out. Like I obviously stay on top of the dentist and stuff like that, but like I have really good vision. So I hadn't been, I hadn't been to the optometrist in my adult life until last week. And then I went, you know, I'm so jealous. I go once a year. So I went, but I was like, well, let me get everything checked out. Maybe I think it's better than it really is. But I just felt comforted knowing like, okay, no, your vision is really good.

1:37:44And you're okay. Come back next year just to check in. But like, you're okay. And it's just good to know instead of just being like, no, no, I'm good. I feel fine. You don't know what's lurking. And what you never want to happen is for them to say, if you only came by a year ago. I know. Or when you saw that lump, that cyst, what is that? Get it checked out. I know. Get it checked out. Look after yourselves. But let me tell you, thank you for what you're doing. You're reaching so many people. You're speaking to people in a way that's relatable and fun. I was like, we're just out here having fun, trying to distract ourselves.

1:38:22That's right. Take a step back from like everyone's got stuff they're dealing with and going through. And like, this is hopefully been a really nice reprieve for you guys. I hope so. Thanks to our amazing co-host over here. Thank you. It's been a pleasure. This has been so fun. It's been amazing having you. And you've been trying to get me for like nine months. Forever. So thank you for your patience. And thank you. Like, seriously, you've been so patient with me. But really. I would have waited another two years. Like, it was going to happen. I was coming on the show and I was dying to get here because I really love you.

1:38:54And I love Justin. And I love what you're doing. Thank you. But you're like doing your thing. You're doing a damn thing. I'm trying. I'm proud of you. And it feels good to be here. This was fun. This was really good. You crushed it. You're welcome back anytime. Oh, I'm coming back. Hopefully we're going to get some updates on some of these. Oh, I'm coming back then. Okay. And we're going to talk about burnout outside of the show. We're going to talk about burnout. Yeah. I'll give you guys some tips. Yeah, yeah. Some tips. Until next time, guys. Until next time. Bye. Peace. Bye.

1:39:31Thank you.

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