In short
The hosts discuss parenting and family life through several segments: grocery shopping styles (recipe-planning vs buying basics and restocking), printer Wi‑Fi/setup frustrations, back-to-school traditions/decor, day-wear pajamas, handling tantrums as “brains flooded,” child independence vs discernment, fears/phobias (not passing fears to kids), and whether modern playgrounds are “too safe.” They also cover Babylist “It Forward” registry clearing (inspired by Alex Cooper going viral), a tragic court case they won’t detail, health/GLP‑1 alternatives, and OpenAI rolling out ChatGPT for Teens with safeguards.
Guests
No named guests appear in the transcript. A prior episode guest is referenced: Dr. Stephanie Van Watson (U.S. Navy dolphin research; C15/“Fatty15” discussion). No other guests are present.
Key claims
Kids learn discernment by testing boundaries; playgrounds still allow real risk (e.g., zipline incident) and shouldn’t be overly sanitized; ChatGPT for Teens blocks “personal feelings” to reduce attachment; modern playgrounds aren’t universally “too safe.”
Notable examples
UPS store printer jams (cardstock); “braggadocious” word correction; back-to-school confetti poppers; Tate’s zipline faceplant after another child pushed her; pacifier “hits” joke; wasp fear management; shark-cage diving vs riptides; Alex Cooper babylist registry clearing; Fatty15 C15 from full-fat dairy.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOGrocery Shopping Strategies
0:20 to 0:47
Discussion on different grocery shopping habits and strategies.
“So you were scrolling on Marketplace, and there it was, the bike you'd been searching for.”
Grocery Shopping Strategies
0:49 to 4:40
Discussion on different grocery shopping habits and strategies.
“And then when they want to make a specific meal that night or that morning, they'll look at what they need for that meal, what they have, and then they'll go get the specific items.”
Printer Setup Struggles
4:41 to 7:30
Exploration of common frustrations with printer setups and malfunctions.
“I don't think it's fair to say we freeball.”
Healthy Aging Insights from Navy Dolphins
7:31 to 11:40
Discussion on how research with dolphins can inform healthy aging.
“I was like, yeah, I think that's a little braggacious.”
Back to School Decorating Trends
11:49 to 14:01
Conversation about the trend of decorating for back-to-school celebrations.
“I think that, that it's all about putting the right energy in the household around school.”
Creative Seasonal Trends in Parenting
14:01 to 15:02
Discussing new trends in celebrating milestones for children, like school starting.
Practical Pajama Innovations for Moms
15:02 to 17:35
Exploring the idea of daytime pajamas and their appeal for new moms.
“But what I wonder for me is the keyless pajamas that you can wear out and more so workout clothes that also look like non-workout clothes.”
Navigating Toddler Emotions
17:35 to 18:01
Advice on handling toddlers' emotional expressions when family members are involved.
“Like and subscribe if you're watching this.”
Communicating Parenting Styles
18:01 to 22:41
Discussing the challenges of explaining parenting styles to others, especially family.
“These words get on my nerves because they have a negative connotation and I know she's just developing and learning.”
Children's Understanding of Safety
22:41 to 24:47
Assessing children's comprehension of safety, particularly regarding traffic.
“wondering what was on your arm there was a calamine lotion bubber and i had a very interesting moment this morning okay i was just up last night because there's a lot on my mind right now yeah you're busy.”
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Exploring Alternatives to Needles
28:05 to 29:18
Discussing natural alternatives without needles.
“and want to explore alternatives, something more natural, no needles involved.”
Fears of Heights in Children
29:36 to 30:00
Discussing children's fear of heights and personal experiences.
Personal Fears and Experiences
30:00 to 30:58
Sharing personal fears and anecdotes about fear of heights.
“she climbs the top of everything so this is the question at what age do you first become afraid of heights because i'm very very scared of heights i know and that's why i was wondering if she was going to get it.”
Reflections on Shark Encounters
30:58 to 32:55
Discussing the fear of sharks and a related book's graphic description.
“And I'm just trying to think of the descriptor that he said that landed.”
Ocean Safety and Riptides
32:55 to 35:38
Discussing ocean safety, riptides, and personal comfort zones.
“It was at some time in the last five to 10 years that I'm just don't put myself in the situation we bit by sharks.”
Influencing Children's Fears
35:38 to 36:44
Debating how parents' fears impact their children.
“What were you going to say about the phobias though?”
Introducing Children to Fears
36:44 to 39:02
Discussing how to introduce children to things that scare their parents.
“And whether it's flies or wasps or spiders, I really, really request that you don't react.”
The Importance of Playgrounds
39:02 to 42:01
Analyzing how playgrounds contribute to learning about risks and boundaries.
“I do think one thing we really try to let Tate do is test her boundaries.”
Playgrounds: Safety and Learning
42:01 to 43:56
Discussion on the safety of playgrounds and the learning experiences they provide.
“And unfortunately, you know, it led to her falling.”
Clearing Baby Registries: A Viral Trend
43:57 to 46:26
Exploration of the viral trend of people clearing baby registries, including personal anecdotes.
“But we'll go through and we'll do some of them.”
Reflections on Tragic Cases
46:27 to 48:54
A heartfelt discussion about the Lindsay Clancy case and the implications of such tragedies.
“And I wanted to get her her pump because I was actually pumping while I was doing it.”
ChatGPT for Teens: Safeguards and Implications
50:30 to 56:00
In-depth discussion on the rollout of ChatGPT for teens and its implications for user relationships.
“Personal feelings towards users blocked.”
The Impact of AI on Social Media and Regulation
56:00 to 1:02:34
Explore the complexities of AI and social media regulation, emphasizing the need for standardized cooperation among tech companies.
“is the response to that is the programming of the AI.”
AI in Education: Benefits and Challenges
1:02:34 to 1:04:42
Discuss the implications of AI on homework, learning, and the importance of standardized educational practices.
“So AI is making homework easier, but learning harder, which makes a lot of sense, right?”
Mock Tests and Effective Learning Tools
1:04:42 to 1:07:21
Examine how AI could enhance learning through mock tests and personalized study aids, bridging gaps in traditional education.
“teens, though, one of the restrictions we didn't talk about is that it has some sort of study study support mode where it's not just going to give you the answers.”
Transcript
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0:58Do you want to go first? After you. them not all people shop for groceries the same not all refrigerators are the same and i've really been thinking about it a lot some people before they go to the grocery store they say i'm gonna make these four recipes this week they plan out their recipes and they they need chives for one recipe they write it on a list and they go and buy it this is under one percent of people no a lot of people do that no way yeah he does that people do this i don't do it but yeah like people do that people write out their recipes and they plan out their food for the week and they go to the store and they buy exactly that and the crazier thing is they come home and they actually make those recipes can I do the other side of what I think the other side does free ball it like we do is they go and they buy their base ingredients for the week because they know alright I'm going to eat cottage cheese I'm going to eat chicken I'm going to eat flock chicken sticks and then when it comes to and they get things that they know like they'll eat 90 % of and they can create a variety of dishes around.
2:02And then when they want to make a specific meal that night or that morning, they'll look at what they need for that meal, what they have, and then they'll go get the specific items. I don't think people do that either. That's what we do. That's what we do. What I have learned is our grocery shopping is chaos. like it's pure chaos like we're always I think it's great but we're always stocked like I like to keep everything stocked we do the cottage cheese we have the cheese we have the snacks you do a base order Sunday yeah and then if we wanted and the base order is chicken steaks fries whatever potatoes and then when if we want something special on Tuesday we'll go to get those special ingredients on Tuesday that's but it just makes for a lot of to plan your meals for the week is like people do that is a huge commitment a lot of people do it but like i would say it's different if you're like if you have a family if you're single like there's so many different things i i go to the grocery store like once every three days oh so like i'm by like sunday night i'm buying for like monday tuesday maybe into wednesday dinner sunday monday tuesday wednesday i always have breakfast i guess for the week but like i'm going to heb after work like every every third day i guess and then you go you go again on wednesday yeah and you'll you'll stock up for wednesday thursday friday yeah saturday yeah i have a zig a quick zig what's that because you said flock an unnamed delivery service i just restocked for the for the studio stacks and i said i'm gonna put some flock in the order for pee an unnamed delivery service do you want to know what they replaced the flock with what funfetti oreo cake stars pee's holding them up off camera i put flock on the order you have to send it because that's such an insane substitution i'm like i'm i was in a state of shock when i saw it but i've never i've never had a substitution like that neither have i that's what i said to pia this is the worst substitution they you got to get refunded i would have thought we would have some jack links or something of course archer or chomps obvious righteous felon whatever yeah we call oreo cakesters hold on so how how does everyone so we have the grocery shoppers that is like the best thing ever go for the recipes for the meals of the week what is what does the other half do Freeball it.
4:40Freeball. But I don't think we freeball. I don't think it's fair to say we freeball. I think that we get basics for the week, knowing that we're probably going to need to go back one more time for some specific items, maybe two. I'm thinking about this. Why can we not say we're going to have tacos at some point this week? Let's get the tortillas, the bell peppers. Let's do it all. We don't do that. I think with you guys, you'd be like, actually, we're going to go out to dinner tonight. Then the bell peppers don't get eaten. That's exactly what happens, Jules. So it's better how you do it for you.
5:12Okay. I think it works for us. And we can walk to a grocery store. Well, that's the thing is I love the combination we have of like being able to hit different grocery stores. Yeah. Including the local one. So now here's – are we good on that topic? Yeah. I'm still thinking about the cakesters. Okay. Here's an H-bomb. Okay. New H-bomb segment. okay and it's is this a harrison problem that only i deal with or is this a problem that other people deal with okay printers well what about them i so printing stuff way too hard totally bought a printer why is setting up a printer so hard like does everyone else struggle setting up the reason is because the printer can never connect to the wi-fi that's why everything starts and ends there okay it's a mess um why does it need to connect to wi-fi exactly this to me seems like it should be the most basic thing in the world just bought a printer no luck gave it to jewels any luck no it's not compatible with the wi-fi here either that's so annoying like why why printers don't need wi-fi can we not just put our phone on top of it and print what you needed Here's where it gets even crazier.
6:33So I had to print something this morning. I go to the UPS store and we love the UPS store people here. They are amazing. Peaches. Shout out peaches. I will say though that feels like half the time that printer is broken or like what you're trying to do can't be done. Yeah. Like today I wanted to print on cardstock and every time we put the cardstock into the printer. Jammed. It jammed. Jammed. I know there's a lot of room for improvement on printers. Like it's because it's something that we really, really, really, really, really need and would use. But so rarely. That's why like we're okay with the inefficiencies is because we only kind of need it once a quarter.
7:14Nowadays. I mean printer stock is down because, you know, you can docusign. Of course. And all that. Of course. I did hear like a click over here. Did the camera turn off? No. Okay. So it's not just a you problem. It's an everyone problem. Okay. curious to hear what people think let us sound off in the comments or if you have like a simple a simple printer setup that just plugs into the into the mac simple and easy no wi-fi connectivity connectivity it would be great if it was usbc because then you can plug it right into your phone or your computer yes no wi-fi no wi-fi needed i feel like that exists do you know jules and i I had a bicker of the week yesterday.
7:59What was it? I was talking about something. Oh. I was like, yeah, I think that's a little braggacious. And she's like, braggacious isn't a word. It's braggotious. No, you said braggotious. Wait, I don't remember. I said braggacious. And then you corrected me. Yeah. That was wrong. And I was like, I don't think that's a word. And guess who was right? Nope. Neither of us. Neither of us. What's the word? Braggadocious. Braggadocious. so we were both wrong i was trying to figure out what word you guys were talking about you weren't really even close no wait you weren't there no i'm just saying neither of you neither of your words oh right now like i didn't i was like what is this word like yeah like your mom the other day said eczema and i was like i think that's eczema oh it is eczema it's eczema it's eczema canada but i was like i that's close enough that i understand what we're talking about braggadocious no I know the word braggadocious I don't have any idea what words you guys were talking about I was with a group of people like seven people in this kind of panel thing yesterday and I said the word braggadocious I'm sure they had no idea what you I said it and did they just move right along I tell you I think the room I and I was like looking at the room I think they all understood exactly what I was saying to the point that the lady in the room responded reflecting that she understood no what's the word?
9:36I said braggacious I guess I said braggosious and you were trying to say braggadocious? yeah I think people understood it I'm telling you they didn't did you give them enough context clues? yeah I think the context clues in the statement were clear
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11:52We're just coming back from an ad break Okay, now that everyone's gone to the bathroom You made me laugh so hard Say the word one more time Brigacious it's because he's so funny he's so funny you're so funny you don't think i'm funny make me laugh all the time i don't i wish i did okay moving on okay um all right have you seen this back to school decor what do you mean so there was a trend this year where people were really decorating kitchens for back to school banners like people were getting banners painted that i saw some balloons like really big balloons and they would say like the kid's name and the school they're going to yeah i'm not really on social media so so that's what i'm telling you about it okay i high level know exactly what you're talking about though i feel like it came out of nowhere like the like what people do for birthdays exactly yeah huge fan of this huge fan of this this is a great move.
12:57I think that, that it's all about putting the right energy in the household around school. Celebrating it. Yeah. Yeah. Making it a day of excitement. Now I think what we'll do is streamers around the, um, the lights, the, the chandelier above the table. And we'll just do like pancakes. Like I want first day of school to always be the same meal, less like decor, more of traditions. And, um, TNT has these confetti poppers and you blow them, like you crack them and they blow out, but they stay stuck to the actual packaging so that way - No mess cleanup. There's no mess cleanup. I want to get those in general.
13:43They are phenomenal. The fact that they stay stuck to the packaging and they don't go everywhere because I was thinking initially, like, no, I'm not cleaning that up. Yeah. I love that. And we could pop it for them. Yeah. yeah it's a great tnt item wow yeah i'm i'm for it too like i just what what was confusing to me though is i used to always see the photos where people get the chalkboards and they say like you know tate's first day of kindergarten right and i've always seen those photos but what was new this year was everyone decorating their kitchen and i was like who like what are the odds everyone did it good well i mean i'm sure it's a small i'm sure to most people who did it put it on the internet but there's certain things that i feel like when people do for i just i want to i want to i want to support this well one person did comment because i made a video about this and one person did say i'm sure they wouldn't do this if there wasn't social media and initially i was like correct and i was like no i think they actually would because it makes the kids so happy that's where i really love it that's where social media can be a good thing too is like fine if that's if you want to get a cute photo but like it also makes the kids so happy totally so it's a win for everyone yeah um so speaking of what was i filling out for bubber well can we talk about this is this another pajama set pajama you like it love it like i can't believe that this hasn't become a thing in a bigger way which is pajamas that you can wear during the day so and no one would notice it's gonna be my new postpartum gift to all the moms i hadn't really nailed down what i want to get them and what i love to do when someone has a baby is get them something for themselves and what i did for nugget when she had her baby was i sent her like a sweatsuit because like all that's all i wanted to wear was a sweatsuit yeah now everyone's getting this brand it's called pijamas i am obsessed with them have we spoken to them i have in the dms i ask them to send me this set okay and they sent this one and a pink ruffle one which i'm curious to see what you're going to think of the pink ruffle one i'll show it to you i have it sitting on the nightstand at home yeah i think that it's yeah i'm i'm i'm i would love the male equivalent of like they have men's i told you they didn't they do i i forgot can we can i do a live view is that interesting or no okay well here's here's what's different about their i can get it on my phone here's what's different about them yeah they the men's does not have a matching set oh but i'm a matching set so it's just pants i'm not gonna show you they're getting them like boxer shorts okay yeah so i do wish that they had a matching top for it um i think that would I'm wearing this.
16:34Those are really nice though. It's very, let's see. But it's very clear that I'm wearing. They're really nice. Yeah. I like those stripes on the far left. I love the stripes. Yeah. No, I think I'll get those. With the white tee? Yeah. Great. Yeah. Yeah. It's just an elevated day look. Yeah. Like this is better than my leggings. But what I wonder for me is the keyless pajamas that you can wear out and more so workout clothes that also look like non-workout clothes. Like for you as pajamas, for me, like I'm always in work. That's what that is. That boxer type short. But I can't work out in that.
17:18Why? Well, I guess we'll see the material. I think you perhaps could. Maybe, maybe not. I don't know. I wanted to get a pair of these boxers too. I thought they were really, really, really cute. So, okay, great. Like and subscribe if you're watching this. Thank you for watching this. Please like and subscribe. And let's go into the in the comment section. Okay. I love the advice you have given about handling babies and toddlers navigating big feelings. Do you have any advice for when family members or others see the acting out and call it a fit or a temper tantrum? Because I know she doesn't know how to fully communicate.
18:03These words get on my nerves because they have a negative connotation and I know she's just developing and learning. Do I just ignore it or do I say she's just trying to communicate? I really understand this. Why are you smirking? It's a great question. It's a great comment. okay so a couple things come to mind here if we were having a temper tantrum i always am narrating through that if there's other people around so i love to narrate and be like oh oh our brains like our brains just a little flooded it's okay we're gonna calm down we totally understand like does that make sense i'm narrating as it's happening a hundred percent i love what you i love how you're going here and how i can respond so keep please keep on the path so i'll narrate out loud just so everyone knows what i'm thinking as i'm watching it and i think that really helps said differently can i kind of jump in though please here's why i love that so much because i find explaining your parenting style to another parent, whether it's a friend or a family member, is it's a...
19:25Cringe. Yeah. It's like, what, am I going to explain something to my mom? And my mom's just going to be like, thanks as the person that raised you and your sister. Right. Like there's my finished product. Versus if they see it live, I think it's just, it's a totally different experience. And just to, you know, my mom, to give her a lot of credit, she's very curious as to our parenting style. She really is. But that actually kind of wasn't the point I was trying to make. It was more so like I find whether when people explain their parenting styles to me often or when I'm explaining it to them, like you notice it is, it can very easily fall on deaf ears or come with judgment versus seeing it, it hits totally different.
20:12so i and that's why i smirked initially because my mind went to the the awkwardness if that's the right word of explaining parenting styles to other people yeah so i think when they're not really asking here's what i would do i would say okay our brain is flooded we're on we're on overload and mama is just gonna stand here like she's waiting for the bus i'm not gonna be on my phone but i'm just gonna stand here and wait till we get through this because we're going to get through it, but there's nothing we can do about this right now. Like I'll just sort of talk about it out loud and that explains how I'm going to handle it, how I understand what's happening with her and how we're going to just let her get through it.
20:55Now, if somebody said, oh, she had a temper tantrum, I think I would just be like, no, she didn't. She just, her brain was flooded. I would word it how I like to word it. So I would just say no and then I would explain it and I would say how I would say it. So that would be my advice. Also, the other thing is, so like we don't, Tate doesn't get her pacifier during the day. And let's say a family member was around that knows that. And we're like, oh, Tate only has her pacifier at night. Sometimes she'll run over to Rocky's crib and grab his pacifier and like suck on it for two seconds. And we call it like getting some hits of her cigarette.
21:33So I think, so sometimes that will happen with other people around. in that situation i think people would expect us to like reprimand her and one thing i always try to do is be where did you get that and then she giggles and i giggles and she and she goes and puts it back i think hitting you're two for two right now i think making it funny like your reaction is a lot of times how people determine in it's how they interpret it so if you're like you are tate put it back then they're like oh she's being bad as opposed to being like where'd you get that pacifier and then we both laughed they're like okay it wasn't that big of a deal yeah or there i always find like one really awkward dynamic um with parents and whether we're saying it or other parents are saying it's like oh no no they never do that they never do like oh she never has her pastor during the day she just has it now right and so i love how you how you deal with it there versus like turning and be like no no she doesn't normally do that you never do that put it out it's just like sometimes she does do that she doesn't have her pasty during the day except for the days that she does have her pasty during the day yeah including that's more so including travel days um oh if you're wondering what's on my arm i have like the most gnarly bug bite ever so i put the what's it called calamine calamine i was wondering what was on your arm there was a calamine lotion bubber and i had a very interesting moment this morning okay i was just up last night because there's a lot on my mind right now yeah you're busy.
22:59You're a busy boy. In a really good way. Mine was racing and so when I got bubber up I asked Alex I was like hey because I don't really take bubber in the mornings I was like do you want to take Tate this morning and I'm going to sleep a little longer and Alex was like oh of course and so she goes to Tate and she's like come brush your teeth Tate. Tate's never seen me sleep in before she didn't like it she was like dada wake up very concerned there was like tremendous concern like why is i don't know if you should be telling the story or me because it kind of feels weird me telling you about it but she couldn't understand me being in that bad today she didn't like it she was but did you see the concern yes it was so it and that's why i kept that's why i kept looking using this is so sad yeah and so obviously i got up but it was like it was a really weird like really weird interaction i'd never seen her process concern
24:11like yeah yeah it was like she was like it was almost like she thought you were dead like actually we're sick yeah it was almost like she's like wait why isn't he waking up because every time she's ever seen me in bed it's because she's also sleeping in in bed when she comes in yeah very very very true um okay so on that note talk so when we were talking about tate being independent right like how how this is her independent era she's become an independent queen except for when you're asleep i guess Now, what people were saying in the comments is very interesting, that kids don't need to learn independence as much as they need to learn discernment.
24:56Discernment is the ability to judge well and make choices. I was like, this seems like a great comment because so many people were liking it. But I was like, what does discernment mean? Sarah, what's discernment? Making good choices. Yeah, the ability to know, to share, the ability to know if cars are driving, I should not walk in front of them. Do you think she understands street traffic? We worked on it a lot in Canada. Her and I did. Because where your parents live is very traffic heavy. There's a lot of cars. Yeah. I do believe, I think she understands that she's not supposed to walk by those cars.
25:43And if there's a car coming, she's supposed to wait. I do not think she understands what would happen if she walked in front of one. I agree. I also think she understands. I think it's very situationally dependent. I think on our street, she really understands stay on the sidewalk. Yes. 90 % like 90 plus percent of the time. I think if you leave her there long enough, would she bolt across? Absolutely. But then I think like when she goes to a different place, she's less clear on where she should or shouldn't be. Well, and it's all cobblestone there. So there was no road defining. And that's why I was really worried about it.
26:22Like there was no black tar road. The sidewalks are the same color as the streets. Yeah. So I was like, this is all very confusing. And this is now me. I think we talked about how they teach street safety in Japan. which is like they show the dummy getting hit and that's teaching the consequence like because what you're saying is tate does not understand the consequence of going in the street is getting hit by a car correct i think she just knows not to do it just knows not to do it i don't know i i gotta give her more credit than that it's the same thing with heights she really understands the concept of heights and i think she really understands the concept of like don't get in front of something going fast maybe because i guess she does understand not to okay when she's pushing the stroller or her little car her little tykes car yeah she will push it into things like she's it's like she doesn't understand to go around that however if winnie's in her little tykes car She knows not to stand in front of that.
27:29Like she does know that will mow her over. So I guess she has some kind of concept of it that this item will hit you if you're in front of it. Yeah, I think that's, you nailed it. Scraining the head. Like when Winnie's in that little tyke's car, like she gets out of the way. She does know. And when they're doing the scooter, she knows to get out of the way.
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30:12I was scared of heights from a very young age because I remember going to the P &E with my sister and just like the high rides, hating. Human infants first show a basic awareness or avoidance of drop-offs around nine months of age. Okay. So if she was afraid of heights, it would already be, we would know. Seems like it. Where was, I was somewhere with her the other day and we were very high up and I was like, this kid's not afraid of heights. Yeah, I don't think she's afraid of heights. I wonder what her fear will be. It's a weird thing, this fear of heights, because we were talking to my uncle who is a rock climber and just - Did an ice climb.
30:53Did an ice climb. So he climbed up a waterfall. That was frozen. That was frozen. Wow. It was gnarly. And I'm just trying to think of the descriptor that he said that landed. like he just you know it's thousands of feet and it's like a mega mega waterfall big thing in south america and i was like were you scared and like the reference was just like no he was just like no fear like he just sits there a thousand feet up and you can look down and it just doesn't hit him the heights yeah being afraid of heights so like what happens i would have a panic attack and you'd have a pit in your stomach and yeah and you'd maybe he said like that pit doesn't exist or something for him for him yeah so i always said okay well here's my question i just everyone has a fear like what's your what's your greatest fear jules that's deep um like making a choice actively and then something bad happens because of it oh i don't know what that is but like if i cross the road like if i was supposed to be walking on the right side of the road and for some reason i crossed to the left side of the road i have a fear that like something bad is going to happen to me on the left side of the road like a crane breaks over there yeah because i didn't stay on my intended path yeah and like i did it with intention yeah it's a deep yeah i know like mine's like spiders that's the answer like yours is yours is deeper than that Oh, I have a very big topic on that, but I don't want to derail from this.
32:30Well, I always say when it comes to my biggest fear, I'm always like I would rather be bit by a shark. I am now reading the book that that girl recommended. What's it called? You sent it to me. I ordered it. Oh, the Facebook one? Yes, good people. Something people. Bad people. Something people. um careless people careless people so i've started the book okay i had no idea what it was about and she grabbed me on the first line oh because she's like i'm in the middle of panama i'm at a crazy dinner it's me somebody else and mark zuckerberg and i'm like oh my god are you do you work for zuck so now i get the book okay she got bit by a shark when she was 13 The way this woman describes it It's like taking a needle With an axe Not an axe An axe with a hammer Sorry It's like somebody puts an axe in you with a hammer And they keep hammering it into you And she's like It's like he wanted to penetrate my body And take it with him away The way she described it I was like I would like to retract all the times I said I would be fine to be bit by a shark Sounded horrible I don't know at what point I made this decision.
33:50It was at some time in the last five to 10 years that I'm just don't put myself in the situation we bit by sharks. It's fair. And I'm trying to think. It definitely was a Hawaii trip with the family. And I was like, I'm going to stay within 15 feet of the shore. I'm not going to go swim out. Would you guys guess that I went shark cage diving? no that's different it's a little safe i think that's pardon i think it's safe for sure safe yeah i think i'd rather go i think i like i'm more likely to go shark diving and just like go for a rip in the middle of the ocean i think i agree i 100 agree because i don't know how many people die shark diving cage sharky i don't think i don't think i think it's like pretty foolproof no my friends that i went with they watched that movie like on our way to go no no no no no zero people have been killed directly by a shark while inside a shark cage yeah so that to me that to me is is safe enough i'm very for like just because anxiety i'm so down to remove helicopters um swimming out into the middle of the ocean for fun ice climbing i'm gonna remove that from my list skydiving skydiving like i'm good to just not i don't need that do you know about riptides undercurrents yeah same thing yeah oh my god my parents put the fear of god in me when we would go to mexico do you know how to get out of them no at one point though i think i did tell me you swim to the side swim parallel to the shore yeah so you don't swim to the shore you swim sideways sideways okay it's good to know yeah but like yeah i'm good i don't need to get in a riptide like I'm I the ocean in general for me I agree the more I'm talking I'm good with the pool I'm good I'll put my feet in the ocean me too but like yeah lakes too like I'm good I like I like an ocean or I like a pool I think that's what I'm realizing now I used to love helicopters I think I'm good with just a regular old giant plane now if you see me on a helicopter don't say anything because I do love them, but I don't.
36:06What were you going to say about the phobias though? You're saying everyone has one. Everyone has a phobia. And I just wonder what Tate's will be. Oh. Which is a great topic. Okay. I think it's very important that we don't take our fears and push them on our children. Which is why. Whether it's heights with me or insects with her. And so my request specifically right now is we have a lot of wasps. I've been very good. And yesterday when Bubba and I were swimming, there were a couple wasps around and she did not react to them at all. And whether it's flies or wasps or spiders, I really, really request that you don't react.
36:51Yeah, I try very hard to not. I hope you notice that. The next time we're standing on top of the building, I want no reaction from you. I will 100 % do my best. Yeah, no, I agree. I think that it's important that we don't teach them to be afraid of the things we're afraid of. Like, I wonder how much of, yeah, I wonder how much of an impact parents fears and being afraid of spiders does then impact the kids. I would assume an incredibly high correlation. Yeah, I would think. I would think so. So what I'm going to do today is I'm going to come home and I'm going to bring like three different little cases and I'm going to get Bubba a pet snake.
37:35I'm going to get her a pet spider and I'm going to get her a pet, just a bunch of flies and other things. And we're just going to keep them in her room. And then every day we're going to take them around and put them in different rooms in the kitchen, in our room. and so that way she gets very comfortable with them. Not bad. No. No, no. No, no, dada. No, dada. What you could do is take Bubba to a place where there were insects like that. There's a snake zoo that we drove by. What? That we're going to have to take her to because you know who also is afraid of snakes? You? Yes. I'm not going. I'm just not going.
38:14No, you should go. No, why? Because we need to conquer the fears with her. Well, I'm good. I'm good at, I'm fine with my fear. So at my local library, when I was a child, they would bring this very long snake and they would put it on two like white tables, you know, the big white tables. Yeah. End to end. So it would go across two. Its name was Cucumber. And my grandparents took me to see it. So I remember it. That's why you should go. That's a really cute name. I liked it. I know, Cucumber. That's an adorable, that is the most adorable name on the planet. Yeah. I'm, I'm, I want her to go and have that memory.
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38:47I don't want to be part of it when Jules. I have the grandparents do it, actually, because my grandparents were who took me in. I do remember that. That's a great thing to do. I would love to do that. As long just. Yeah, I think whoever takes it, they can't be afraid of snakes. Correct. So, OK, now this this idea of discernment, this is my biggest takeaway of how they learn discernment by testing boundaries. I do think one thing we really try to let Tate do is test her boundaries. And I understand how you would learn discernment if you were to fall off a chair once. you would then know that would happen if you moved to the i mean that's how you learn the edge of something so i do think it's important i've been saying a lot that we were trying to make her leash a little longer this kind of goes with it one of the things we dm'd but i saw a clip that said are modern playgrounds too safe i should have pulled the pictures for you guys but like i guess before the 80s the playgrounds used to be like on cement they used to be really high up there wasn't like any qualifications for how short it needed to be so on so forth then there was some bill that passed and playgrounds got safer um and kids were still able to learn but like they were not going to die if they fell off like the top of this jungle gym um but now apparently playgrounds are like too safe and then kids are not as able to learn discernment because like they are not able to get hurt at playgrounds anymore yeah i i a couple different angles to go on this and and like i love playgrounds three years ago i hadn't thought more than 30 seconds about playgrounds my biggest takeaway on playgrounds over the first two years of of tate's life is it is the best taste of reality that a child can have did you make a video on this okay well we talked about it so um yeah so to to bring it back playgrounds are it's the it's the true first like taste of real life that a child gets on the discernment topic they go they really understand exploration around how how high can you climb falling the interactions with other kids like is someone going to push them down the slide if they do is that child going to get in trouble and be reprimanded are they not might not um like we had a situation with tape when we were in vancouver there's a zip line and the kid pushed tate while she was waiting for the zip line so so he pushed he took the rope that she was holding on to and he pushed both of them she took two steps she tried to keep her balance it happened in slow motion for me two steps and then boom a face plant and like slid down a hill but i very sad his mom though his mom she took it she got him out of it she was like i am sorry it gave it gave it gives her a real a taste of the real world and that's she's waiting in line it's her turn but sometimes Sometimes shit happens and you get cut.
42:00And she got cut. And unfortunately, you know, it led to her falling. And then she also learned that there was a consequence to the other child for cutting her. But she also needs to learn and she will learn this and this one will be hard to watch. Sometimes that kid's not going to get in trouble. Yes. And that's life too. I didn't see the mom there. And the mom came out of nowhere. And the mom saw everything that happened and handled it. I think very, very appropriately. So one, just I'm a huge fan of playgrounds. They're fun and they learn. Number two, I challenge the notion that all playgrounds are too safe.
42:40Okay. We're just talking about a playground that had a zip line on it. Okay. The playground by our neighborhood has like multiple swinging components and slides and poles. So I don't know. I'll say this. There is so much opportunity for you to get hurt on a playground still. Okay. I, when I was freshly postpartum, I remember saying to Harrison, you're going to have to take over on playground duty today. Like I'm having heart palpitations. Oh, like I was like, there's so much room for this child to fall. Now that actually, now I'm realizing this. It's probably because she's not even two yet. I think maybe when they're five, six, seven, maybe they are really sick.
43:26Like they're like super safe. No. Cause I'm, I've watched the video and the playground it showed in the video was a very, very basic. So at our playground, there's a playground for toddlers and then there's a playground for older kids. Yeah. And it showed the playground for toddlers. And, uh, yeah so yeah so I don't think that modern playgrounds are too safe no okay that would be my take on that alright some more kid things pop culture events Alex Cooper went viral this week for clearing random women's entire baby lists so I didn't see that and people have been DMing me their baby lists and i was like what what's going on here that's what's going on so i bought a girl um upon her spectra pump and i want to i want to buy more registries there's no spot to clear the entire registry though i think maybe you'd have to click through the individual items she was partnering with babyless so like i'm sure that's okay because like i was going to clear this girl's registry yeah But number one I mean she had registered First from me I was like Oh that's a$1 ,200 stroller I was like Oh but in order for me To clear this You have to I would have to individually check Like it would have Kind of taken me an hour Yeah I was hoping There was going to be Like a clear all button But there wasn't So anyways Drop your Or somebody you know's Registry In the comments And we'll go through And we'll I don't actually be fun I actually was really enjoying seeing what this girl registered for.
45:14But we'll go through and we'll do some of them. Yeah. I would love to do that. I'd love more of them. Phenomenal, phenomenal initiative, campaign. And fun. Fun. I was getting DMs and I didn't understand it as well. I was like, what? Because I know that I get some whenever teachers are going back to school. That makes sense. There's my teacher list. I understand that. But I didn't get a message with them. I just had, and I was like, oh, oh, like why? And, you know, I'm on desktop, so it doesn't work that well. I think one of the coolest parts is I think like people are posting their registry. I don't know if it's like on their stories or in the comments or whatever, but just like random people are going now on other random people's registries and buying them stuff off their registry.
46:05Phenomenal. It's awesome. Yeah, and I think so double whammy combo, either your registry or someone you know's registry that you think could use the help. Yeah, and I love, what I like about it though, like this girl, she posted a little photo of her baby's feet there in the NICU. She told me like a little story around it. I was like, heck yeah. And I wanted to get her her pump because I was actually pumping while I was doing it. I love my spectra. Very nice. And this baby is probably going to love having breast milk. And so I wanted to be a part of that. So if you're going to send it, if you're going to send your baby a little registry, I would love a little bit about like...
46:43A little story. I'm having a little baby girl. Her name's going to be this or something like that. A little story around it would make it special. Love it. This is very... What's the Christmas tree? Angel... Angel... Angel tree. Very angel tree-esque where social media everyone wins. Yeah. I love it. I love when stuff like this happens. like go going Alex Cooper going viral for that's like just going viral for the right reasons I love it it's also nice because like when you told me about this Jules like you said did you see the Alex Cooper baby list thing and when you said that my initial assumption was like something was something went wrong right and so it's great to see like a campaign go like get rewarded and go the right way totally i agree so i saw so then this morning i saw he was uh i don't know if he was overseas but he was in uniform um and he was saying his wife was pregnant and he was really trying to get his her registry to alex cooper and i was like why are you trying to get to alex cooper but now i get it anyways i don't think alex had seen it but random people were going in there and they were clearing his wife's registry.
48:02This is a win, win, win, win, win. Yeah, it was awesome. So it's just, and it's like fun to pick what you're going to get. Okay, Lindsay Clancy case. I know we had said we were going to talk about this and we were going to do our research. We're not going to talk about it. And this is just all I'll say on it. It's like, there's so much information in this trial. It's hard to tell what's true, what's not true. it's also gut-wrenching and it's just so sad and i think a lot of moms probably feel the way i do around it which is just my heart breaks for everybody that we don't we don't want to talk about it and i think that's what we're going to say about it is just this is truly tragic case it's so it's so tragic and it's so upsetting and we don't and hopefully justice is served for for those babies and that's that's like it on it it's not it's not like a buzzy thing to talk about it's just really unfortunate.
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51:03This is the big one. Personal feelings towards users blocked. To lessen the chances they develop a relationship with the chatbot. What?
51:21I'm cheering this on. But shouldn't that just be across the board? Like, who's falling in love with the robot? Hold on. People are. Hold on. Hold on. Help me. Okay. To our conversation last week on creating great products and the line between creating a product that people love and a product that people find addictive, this is an area where I think ChatGPT deserves great credit because what they're not doing is optimizing the addictiveness. Because if they wanted to make it as addictive as possible, they would keep features like this around. because if they know if you're developing a relationship with the chat bot, if you're developing the personal relationship, you're going to use it more.
52:06And they're cutting that back for the betterment of the user. And so I think that that deserves credit. Okay. It deserves credit. And that was my hope is my hope is that in these changes, they're focusing on broader product quality with the user, with the effect on the user in mind versus just optimizing for usage. Okay, but why only 13 to 17? I would like to see that one rolled across everyone. Same. No personal feelings towards the person. I think that that's just you're starting to get towards a more gray area on censorship then.
52:55what if who's to say a 30 year old if the 30 year old wants to develop a relationship with like have an online companion are we as a society gonna say that's not allowed to me that's a that's a it's just a much bigger question okay i guess if we're going to be truly open-minded when your brain is fully developed if that's the path you choose like are we are we in essence making that illegal no can we no we're not okay okay so we're not going to make it illegal we're just not going to have the chat bot have that feature it's not illegal just doesn't exist saying it can't have that feature is essentially making it illegal because if chat gbt doesn't do it then someone else will do it right and so are you going to say that other person can't do it hold on but if we're going to turn off like a 30 year old's also allowed the doom scroll but we're going to turn that off because it's addictive on instagram this is where it all gets so complicated is are you creating that feature to develop a relationship with an online with a with a chat bot is the core driver of that for um for the user's needs or is the core driver of that to drive addictiveness to the platform yeah but i'm just saying we're not being like super controlling by just saying the robot like also you're if a robot if a drone delivers you your amazon package like you don't have to fall in love with the drone like it's okay for the for these to not have the capabilities it's okay to disable certain features i think but if you believe in free will in an open market it's hard to but it's also like it's also you could turn off the their ability to file your taxes like for them to be able to do math you'd be like the chat bots just can't do math.
55:08But why? Well, I think it kind of put my brain in a pickle. Me too, a bit. I'm trying over here to... I think at the end of the day, like, we need... We need... There's, like... And this is why monitoring this stuff is so complicated because, like, the line between it being a good service and it being addictive can... Let me ask you this. Can get too great. If you have a relationship with your chatbot, does it have one with you? Does it like you back? Today, no. But in theory, in the future, it potentially could. So if somebody says to their chatbot, like, I'm starting to develop feelings for you, is it saying like, me too?
55:51Or is it saying like, oh, that's great? Well, here's the problem. It's crazy you feel that way. This is actually great. This is a great topic. is the response to that
56:06is the programming of the AI. Hold on. I got to sit on this for a second. Okay. Can I ask a question while you think? For the Facebook stuff, do you know if they're stopping the doom scrolling, the stories, the beauty filter for accounts ages 13 to 17 or is that for everyone this is for everyone but i think they also are making those changes in europe already how long are they allowing people to do scroll i don't know but i think this is like a much bigger thing like you know in gaming as well like with the apps and the way the apps are or the gaming apps you know have these offers and tokens and that's all optimized for addiction too.
56:59Of course. So I think like the standards can't just be - Social media. Can't be for social media companies and not across the board. But developing this framework is incredibly complicated. Of course. But that's why, funny enough, I think that having the framework be developed by an independent third party that's - Actually, independent isn't necessarily the right word. But having the standards be developed by a cooperative of social media companies, I think makes a lot of sense. So like you have representatives from the five or 10 largest social media companies, as well as a selective upstart of, you know, technology specialists and startups.
57:49And then they set those standards. So like you have Snapchat and Facebook and some researchers and they say, OK, we're going to say after seven minutes of consistent scrolling, everyone needs to adopt the standard of putting a 45 second break in. That's going to be what makes it most effective. But you can do that, but you can't disable like a chap falling in love with you. we're now talking about two separate things so i also think that that was your response by the way you you were thinking about your response well i want to go i want to go to that first so i think that you you need to have the same regulatory uh entity for ai companies as well so you want to have representatives from um open ai from uh from claude from gemini from smaller companies from different investors who go and actually set those standards.
58:53Right. Absolutely. Because it's really hard for, especially in something as complex as AI, to have those decisions be made by outsiders who don't have a fundamental understanding of where the technology is today, but also where it's going to be in the next 12, 18, 24, 12, 18, 36 months is a losing battle. So like this regulatory, can you, I'm blanking on the word FINRA. It's the regulatory whatever for finance. Financial Industry Regulatory Authority. Okay. Thank you. Authority was the word I was looking for. And it's a, how do they describe it independent there's like a word for it it's a not-for-profit self-regulatory organization self-regulatory was the word i was looking for not for profits also self-regulatory and so that is is the the main actors and players getting together to establish rules for the betterment of society yeah and i believe then the government has like an overarching
1:00:16relationship with the entity as well but it's not ran by the government right okay so we're starting to lose me a little but did i lose you jules no i i understood what you're saying i'm like i understand what we're saying i'm not confused so now i'm gonna now i'm gonna answer the question on on the relationships what's the question in the relationship if you say to your chat bot i'm starting to develop feelings for you what are they responding and i believe what are they responding or what should they they're going to respond a wide variety of ways right now so if a if a if a if a chatbot is trained to optimize engagement and time on platform then their response is going to be optimized on keeping you chatting i love you tell me about um tell me why you love me and then i'll tell you why you love why i love you okay okay so that would be an extreme okay and so that it all comes back to why we need self-regulating authorities so that way claude and open ai can set the standard of hey when someone is trying to develop a personal relationship with the chat bots where do we draw the line yeah okay when someone starts talking about harm where do we draw the line how do we have the same standard of authority where someone if someone's going to talk about hurting other people they can't do it more on on gemini than they can um grok and so this this is why it's a bigger more convoluted conversation um but why we need self uh self-regulating um groups to to to step in yeah it's not it's gnarly i can't believe it doesn't exist for social media companies i kind of think it it it was kind of the wild wild west right now on social media and open eye open ai and all of this like coming to the forefront but we're learning it's the same thing that happened with iphones like when everyone's already getting phones then we had to say okay then kids were getting them so young now we're saying well it's bad for them so like we're just gonna we're just living through the development process here now let's talk about homework with AI.
1:02:35So AI is making homework easier, but learning harder, which makes a lot of sense, right? So a new study of 27 ,000 Chinese students ages 12 to 18, um, AI users, homework scores went up 18 % across all subjects in six months. Okay. As compared to their scores before using AI. So the same kids exam scores were 20 % below classmates who didn't use AI. And that's why like this is now AI does the homework. Kids, kids aren't learning the material and the way you test needs to be the same way that you do the homework. So if, if you're giving kids a, uh, if you're letting kids, if you're giving kids an access point to AI for the homework, you need to give them an access point for AI for the test or vice versa.
1:03:22And, and what I love, and I know it's been on the docket and I know we've discussed it personally, but this, I don't know if we've actually discussed it on the pod, but how the watermark that's going on in AI, Have we discussed that on the pod yet? No, I don't even know. Okay. This is phenomenal. So Gemini has it and Claude is rolling it out. But now anytime you get an answer from your chat bot, it's going to have a secret watermark in the background, which tells you whether or not it was written by AI. So if you're a college student and you use AI to write your paper and then you copy and paste it and submit it, your school is going to be able to run a program which clearly shows, hey, 70 % of this paper was written using AI.
1:04:18100 % of this paper was using AI. AI. So it's, I think, a phenomenal tool to really jot a line of when are you doing the work or when is someone else doing the work? Yeah, helpful, but you can still ask it enough questions and then do your own typing. But it's a step in the right direction. And I do think this chat GPT for teens, though, one of the restrictions we didn't talk about is that it has some sort of study study support mode where it's not just going to give you the answers. Like, I don't know how it works, but the new feature that they're rolling out is study support mode that guides you to an answer, not necessarily just spits out the answer But that makes all the sense in the world is you ask it a question and it gives you some information back and asks you based on that information what they think the answer would be.
1:05:15So then I totally see where that would be like an awesome tool for studying. oh an amazing tool yeah yeah it would actually help you learn especially if it said something like why don't you type back your understanding to me yeah and then like it grades it like 90 accuracy or something like that and and i may be beating a dead horse so apologies if so this now all comes back to the self-regulating authority and the importance of it okay because if open ai believes that this is how education should be done via chat gbt but claude doesn't and claude just gives you the answers the problem is kids are just going to use claude right because so many kids are just going to want the answer right versus if they can work together and create a standard around education, think about how much better that is for society.
1:06:16Yeah. But yes, you need representatives from the big players, from researchers, from the small players. So that way they, on the other end, don't just create a monopoly for themselves. I think though - Or oligopoly. I'm now actually thinking about if you wanted to learn and let's say you were in college, AI would be such a helpful tool because let's say I read this book, Toddler 411, and I had a test on it. I could go to chat and I could say, hey, write me a mock test to make sure I really understood the book. Like I would have loved to have had mock tests to see if I understood things. But who would whoever who would ever give you?
1:06:48Well, like there was no there was no way to find one. So it is pretty incredible. Back in my day, I would search. There are tests or there were tests online on usually on Quizlet. Like other people would make Quizlets for the book that you were reading. Did you guys use Quizlet? Yes, I did. Now that I'm thinking about it. And then I would test myself on the Quizlet. McGill. They're putting all these things out of business. Yeah. One thing McGill did a lot of is they would release, like the actual class would release old exams. Was that not a thing for you guys? No. So we would have from the professor the last five exams.
1:07:27And the answers? I believe so. Yeah. I don't think they give you the exam without the answers. and so if you took the time to like really understand what was going on in those exams you could score very well it wasn't for all classes but for for a lot of classes you know where i have a problem with education sometimes these days is like um on in terms of a test like why did we need to know long division like for what i'm i'm totally with you or like the like the periodic table like i haven't used it i gotta pee again are we getting close yeah i think that we're actually like we've had a really good episode and it was robust and we covered most of the topics that I wanted to cover and it's it's Friday so let's call her a day thank you for listening go to the bathroom um you guys thank you for listening we love you don't forget to drop your baby lists in the comments and we can take comments on YouTube or Spotify there we go thanks for listening to another episode of two parents if you enjoyed the show Don't forget to subscribe, like, comment, rate, and review.
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This week on Two Parents & A Podcast, happy Friday!! Let's start with the fun stuff: we've seen the #BabylistItForward movement (thank you Alex Cooper!) and we want to do this for YOU guys.. or a friend you think could use it! Comment yours (or someone else’s!) Babylist links on YouTube or Spotify and we'll be picking a handful at random to send gifts to. (PS: Alex is requesting a story alongside the link!!)
Ok, let's get into the episode, because it was a good one. Of course we started with three rando topics no one planned: not all shopping lists are created equal (are you a recipe planner or a free-baller?!), Harrison's new H BOMB segment "Is THIS hard for everyone or is it just ME?!" (this week: printing.. why is it SO hard), and a rare (actually not rare at all lol) Bicker of the Week between Harrison and Jules over a word they were actually both wrong about.
Then we get into the good stuff: the back to school decorating trend we LOVE, Alex's new go-to postpartum gift for moms (daytime pajamas!!), what to say when family calls your toddler's big feelings a "temper tantrum," teaching kids discernment (not just independence!), how/when phobias develop, and why playgrounds might be a child's first real taste of the world. Plus a quick note on why we're not covering the Lindsay Clancy case.
Our last convo is all about ChatGPT for Teens.. including a really interesting debate on chatbot relationships, how AI is making homework easier but learning HARDER, and who the heck is supposed to be governing all of this?!
LOVE YOU GUYS, happy Friday!!
Timestamps:
00:00:00 Welcome back to Two Parents & A Podcast!
00:07:08 Not all shopping lists are created equal (recipe planners vs. free-ballers)
00:04:48 Why is printing SO hard?! (new H BOMB he named “Is THIS hard for everyone or is it just ME?!”)
00:07:09 Bicker of the Week: “Bragocious” vs. “Bragacias” (spoiler alert: it’s “braggadocious”)
00:11:31 The back to school decorating trend we LOVE
00:14:14 Alex's new go-to postpartum gift for moms (daytime pajamas!!)
00:16:56 Advice for when family calls your toddler's big feelings a "temper tantrum"
00:22:00 The first time your toddler shows CONCERN 🥹
00:23:45 Do kids need independence.. or discernment?!
00:28:46 How do kids develop phobias?
00:39:37 Playgrounds are a child's first taste of the real world
00:43:08 Babylist It Forward: comment your registries!!
00:47:18 Why we're not covering the Lindsay Clancy case
00:49:39 ChatGPT for Teens
LOVE YOU GUYS!
#twoparentsandapod
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