Brain fog, Pokemon cards & how to stop apologizing for everything

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1:10I would go as far as saying the pool would suck without it growing up I never swam on a pool that had a ledge oh we had one my because growing up we most we swam in my grandpa Harold's pool most of the time Rocky Harold Fugman Rocky Harold Fugman and that pool did not have that pole did not have a ledge yeah I'm trying to think ledges like I don't I can't recall seeing a swimming ledge until very recently really? yeah so that was a great call by you because I didn't I thought we may not even need a swimming ledge yeah we almost got rid of our swimming ledge and Tate today she played on the swimming ledge for hours one of your friends messaged and told us that was where they spend the most time libby libby thank you libby she's i said we were thinking about making it smaller she said i'd go bigger nope i'd go i'd go the opposite way yeah all right ready ready can i just do this really yeah but you need the asmr okay you need the asmr i love it that was a really good one that was a 9.2 welcome back to another episode of two parents in a podcast it's monday and football has officially kicked off and there's a pun there get it very good pun very good pun harrison has a hurt finger i was wondering about that freak accident actually a freak accident what happened my glass fell as it fell i went to catch it as i was going in to catch it it broke as it hit the surface and i still caught the glass but i caught the bottom half and the top half was shattered and i have a nasty gash ow yeah i don't love that it is very deep apparently it is i wasn't there it was so unlucky and there's yeah there's so much blood it sucks oh there's nothing worse yeah so we just like we're not moving it we have it wrapped up pretty tight we didn't go we didn't go get stitches which i feel like i'm gonna regret it's okay do they just do the glue these days or are they actually stitching you up i don't know i bought glue we got glue so after this we're gonna do some hydrogen peroxide glue a really good tape up because Harrison goes out of town today yeah we too I was with two friends at the end and we just all looked around at each other being I cannot believe that just happened transparently I was texting P about something because I needed to check something I didn't hear what happened he caught a glass and it broke at the same time I appreciate the transparency I appreciate it Jules you caught a glass and it broke yeah that does stink I will tell you one funny thing the friends i was with are incredibly caring friends and the types of friends that if i needed to go to the hospital definitely would have 100 gone to the hospital to get stitches with me oh they would have definitely without without thinking twice about it but i i needed to dispel very early on like you could see like they're waiting to be like how bad is this and i was like don't worry i have this covered like because it happened very late at night was the other thing but not like it wasn't a drunk in ordeal and so i was like don't don't worry i i've got this everyone can go home it was as our ubers were being ordered the ubers outside and i was asleep at home and harrison came and i listen i know better than this i'm not proud of it but i'll tell him myself and this he will he can't So I'm knocked out.

5:07And I was so excited. Like I went to bed early and I had cleaned that house and done Rocky. Like I had such a productive night. This was probably to say, I said late. That's late for us. This is probably, I'm home maybe 15 to 20 minutes after the UT game ends. You got home at 1040. I looked at the clock. Yeah. So we're talking 1040 PM, not like midnight, one, two. 1040, very late for me. comes in turns on the light and i'm like well we can't be doing that and i like woke up and he's like everything's okay and i'm like but and he's like but i i did get a gash in my hand and i need you to help me maybe we need to go get stitches and i can't believe i said this jules i don't even think i can say it it's fine i was like you can uber to get the stitches no it's so mean but i was like we got the kids here and i was like i was like i got it don't worry and i think the tape job went well and this morning i was like and that's why today i was like we will go to cvs and we will get you glue and all these things and we're gonna fix it okay good because it was very mean i was so like tired and disoriented and then i was like if you said that to me i would not event non-event i would cry if you said that to me non-event so i'm really sorry for that i'm gonna mess with my training though i was thinking how happy i was that this didn't happen right before the high rocks i couldn't have done the high rocks without it yeah here's the thing it's very michael jordan flu game you could no i could like no but that's the thing it would got it would just every time i move my thumb it's gushes blood you would just have well if you had blood all over the equipment well then tell your story now tell your story about the girl okay there's a big there's a big high rock story we're coming the official high the unofficial official high rocks podcast so um and we're gonna need to put the tweet up there was a girl who competed in the beijing um in the beijing high rocks and she pooped herself in the high rocks and she completed covered in poop and poop went all over the course and they let her compete.

7:03Why? It's a thing that happens. In marathons? In marathons, yeah. It's a huge thing. That's fine. High Rocks is an hour. High Rocks, it has to be a poop-free sport. It has to be a poop-free sport. The marathon, marathons you're outside, number one. I'm fine if you poop in the marathon. And the course distance, the course is huge in a marathon. The High Rocks course is very condensed. There's only like 50 spots per routine. So like that means - Why? When it's just not that competitive, like, are you kidding me? Here's also the thing. It is that competitive. There's a rule in high rocks. You get suspended.

7:39You get kicked out of the race. If you like take a gel in the middle of the race and throw it on the floor, like you get disqualified. There's all these different things in high rocks that allow you to get disqualified. You need to keep the course clean. That includes poop. It's not unreasonable. It's the top of the list. Jeff, for example, drank some water over a trash can and he got a warning because they don't want the ground to be wet. So you slip like you can't be pooping. Yeah. I couldn't believe that they let this fly. But why? I almost want to think it's a fake story, but I saw it so much on Twitter that I believe it's true.

8:15Like you got to leave. You got to go to the bathroom and come back. But she needs to leave. That's what I'm saying. That was on her. like it's just it's not your race it's like you you know you tore your acl like it's not you know if you tear your acl and you want to keep going fine okay that's a heroic story for me if you want to puke and rally fine but you puke in the trash can yeah people online they're they're not too happy i'm not happy i if i was competing and I'm like seeing shit stains on like during my wall balls. No, like you got to go to the bathroom. It might add four minutes to it.

9:02Okay, Pyrox is very good at updating the rules consistently. I think they're going to put out a rule that makes this a disqualification and they'll use good wording. Like if you are, if there's any fluid that comes out of your body and creates a disruption on the course a la blood a la poop you're disqualified because if it's blood it's the same thing like you can't be bleeding all over the course you you you cannot be you and here's the other thing we can maybe we could get some bathrooms nearby and you could go in that way but like if you have to if i pooped in my pants i would be mortified have you seen the videos no it's very graphic and she keeps going it's not like she pooped and you couldn't tell It was everywhere.

9:49Jules, you've seen the videos now? Now I have, yeah. And they're just allowing it to continue? Yeah. Does she look embarrassed? And there's so many judges in these races. Did she look like, oh no? So for context, like during the wall balls, you have to throw a wall against a ball and do a squat a hundred times. Each person has their own dedicated judge. And then there's master judges that sit behind your judge to help enforce like the broader rules. So it's not like a marathon where like maybe you can kind of like slip between the cracks. Throughout every event, there is someone watching you making sure you're doing it correctly.

10:26No, no, no. High Rocks definitely saw that she had poop. She doesn't look embarrassed. And I think that was part of the backlash online is like not on her, on like where was the intervention from the race organizers. Yeah. And even if it's like go clean up. Yeah. Wow. Like, I would even be like, I guess we could pause the clock for you. If you please, please just go to the bathroom. Yeah. All right. So on from pooping to potty training. Or from pooping to potty training. Look at this podcaster. What is it? From pooping to potty. Toilet learning. Toilet learning. Yeah, we are not potty training.

11:03We are toilet learning. I want to film. Wait, okay. So we still need to do the joke on the neighbors. Okay. And we're going to do it. we need to tell them we're calling it urine and defecating what's the word um feces feces urine and feces and but the other thing i want to do is is try to film myself having a serious conversation with somebody and tell them we're not we are not potty training we're toilet learning in our house yeah i'm torn on this one because once again on one end it's ridiculous to like but on the other end as seeing it they're very different things but whatever we can't take the credit for this one versus like like if someone says like how did you know i think a lot of things is like how did you transition um from the snoo to the crib like we did things there when it comes to this we did nothing no but we did we did we ordered the toilet yeah so we just and we started showing her this is how you go to the bathroom she she crushed today though she has toilet awareness She has major toilet awareness.

12:07And like Jules, today, she has, she's crushed it. And she's done such a good job. And we've had a party every time. She dumps it in the real toilet. We flush it. We say bye-bye. Like it's a whole thing. It's very exciting. I'm doing something that I don't normally do. What? But I'm having a second energy drink. I mean, you guys have been here for 15 minutes. and you finish that one. That's a lot of caffeine in a short amount of time. I'm not even drinking it for the energy at this point. I just, it's so good that I just want to have more of it. Okay. Okay. I agree. And I have a long flight and I have a big to-do list of work things to do on this flight.

12:52Okay, so let's talk about your trip. So this is Sunday, by the way, because the episode airs tomorrow morning. Here's the only thing I'm going to see on my trip. Harrison's gone Sunday to Wednesday. I'm very excited for this. it's a work thing um but it's a social oriented work thing it's like a conference yeah more or less exactly very well put which is like a bunch of guys in this industry and they like kind of all go to the same spot which do you want to say where you're going yeah uh yeah i'll be in seattle

13:22the so while i'm very excited for the trip like the the number one you'd like the big shift in mindset not even shift in mindset but like i'm so excited to go i am so excited to come back and be home and spend time with the family not only are you so excited to come back you come back wednesday yeah and the totski's birthday is thursday it is and you guys there are some things i'm so excited like when tate was three months old we took her to five pumpkin patches she had no idea she was there she couldn't even hold her head up this age now we went to cvs today we played with all the halloween toys she's gonna love halloween i keep asking her whose birthday is it she's my birthday birthday per tate like she knows she's how are you gonna be two are you gonna have a birthday party yeah do you want to invite suede yes like she is she knows for the most part what's going on i'm so excited for her birthday the big difference between one and one and a half and two is I feel like when your kid is one, you're doing things for them that are from an experience perspective that are very much about their development, but not necessarily appreciated by them.

14:39And where the flip has switched at her now being two is she appreciates the experiences that we give her. Yes. So while they're good for development, now you see the excitement on her face. And both dance class and gymnastics are a phenomenal idea. Like this morning when we brought her into the bed, we're like, what do you want to do this morning? And she thought about it. She's like gymnastics. And I'm like, oh no. And so you know, we're putting her in something that she's really enjoying. She loves gymnastics. But yesterday was funny because we were at gymnastics and she was really into it. And then you know what?

15:20I grabbed my purse to leave and she was like, Tate's purse. So we went and got Tate's purse. We put them in the car. When we got to gymnastics, I was like, I'll just grab my purse. I grabbed my purse. She's like, Tate's purse. So I get Tate's purse. Halfway through the gymnastics, she went over to her purse, started grabbing all her items out of it, and was handing them out to people. And I was like, we might not have an athlete. We might have more of a fashionista on our hands. We're going to wait it out and see. But she's like, Tate's purse, like handing an egg and a bracelet. And we were doing all that.

15:45She was really loving it. Really loving talking to the kids. Do you think it would have been different? I didn't go to gymnastics yesterday. He was working on instead. I made plans with three other folks. To work out. One for a solo workout. Yeah, I made plans and it conflicted. Hold on. I didn't say that as though like he went to work out. I'm saying I think it's cool that you did. Okay. Yeah, it was an unfortunate time. One thing I want to make very clear on this podcast so maybe we could stop hedging about it is like when you go and do things, you get to go and do them because you are so involved all the time and vice versa.

16:18Like you going working out on a Saturday morning is like not a thing. yes but i will normally plan my workout around gymnastics not conflict with anything that we're doing with her this was plans made with three other people yeah but i'm just saying it wasn't a thing yeah okay uh do you think if i was there do you think that me not being there she had less focus on gymnastics yes because you get on the balance being like harrison if they say you're going to roll down the mat. Harrison like rolls down the mat. Sure. What to do. And I was on the balance beam with her showing her, but you're more animate.

16:55Like you're making sure you're doing it well. So then like she wants to do it well. You went on the balance beam? Yep. Good for you. Thank you. We never talked about your cartwheel the other day. I finally did one. Yes. Did she like it? She loved it, Jules. We tried. I would have put that in the video, but her shirt was like lifting up. we tried to do the cartwheel for for 10 minutes afterwards for her very difficult for her to understand hand hand foot foot yeah it didn't that's that's too hard right now but i would say our current favorite thing to do is ride the horsey where she gets on your back and wait does it in the pool does it everywhere does it yeah anywhere that's possible um so the birthday very excited about that she's very excited about it i think the biggest hurdle we're gonna have is once the birthday is over explaining to her that her it's not her birthday i think we might have it is every day not everyone's birthday type moment which is really cute yes but i'm i'm confident in her ability to understand that over time well the good news is like maybe it could just be somebody else's birthday yes and then we'd be like okay now it's their birthday oh well it's winnie's birthday perfect so then it goes from tate to winnie yeah so we can just do a little transition there yeah um okay great so yesterday was you know the start would you call the start of college football yes because while it's technically week three this was the first week that you had like real games i'm getting a lot of feedback on both of our kids being in burnt orange a lot of feedback a hefty amount of feedback and even today at brunch like do you understand how big the OU Texas rivalry is because what they were saying at brunch day we ran into a guy that's from A &M they're like you can wear your Aggie colors here but like you like you can't like oh it's the I'm from the biggest rivalry school do you understand that our biggest this is like an ou sign is horns down so like my friends were like what it's not like you decided that you were a notre dame fan

19:12no i get it like well it's sorry it's actually hard because while i get it on paper i clearly don't get it emotionally people were like oh i'm shocked number two the other side is like we live here like it's the home team but so like this is where kate and rocky were born yeah so it's so it's going to be a good debate this is this is going to be the thing you know do i go where i live currently or do i do i have my alma mater and for you i totally get you stick with your alma mater that makes all the sense in the world to me but for the kids like this is where the kids were born if the kids were born in oklahoma i would i could totally see it them them going sooner but this is the problem this is the problem they should be both but it's so i guess like that's the thing like if i went to usc i would be like okay half the time we're gonna wear usc outfits and then we're gonna like change into our texas outfits i think it's jaw dropping because people are like well it's the those are the two you're gonna go for both the rivals yeah i mean this is like um osu alum and having their kids in michigan stuff yes like yeah hard does that hit more so my point is i'm i've ordered tate some ou outfits and and i'm very supportive of that you wanted to get an ou hat harrison was like i'm gonna get an ou hat because i want to ride a really cool ou bucket hat yeah and i was because you were like you went there i want to like ride with this school too a hundred percent and what i realized yesterday when i posted that with the amount of shock people were experiencing was like okay these are two rival schools like i didn't just pick another random school but yeah it is where we like yeah we also like we took the caddy we uh took it to campus before the game we were riding around music blasting horns up and i went into the rally dog store and i bought all the kids matching utl fits which is like the best thing ever yeah so no no there's also not that much like that was just kind of the like we didn't buy them weeks ago in anticipation of this we bought them that morning oh no i think it's the cutest thing ever but i'm just saying we need to lift on the red side a little bit now we gotta we gotta we gotta just right our wrongs yeah let's get her the same i'm happy to have the same outfits for both of them but i feel like they're naturally going to be ut fans like this is where they're from they are but they're gonna know mama mama Mama Boomer.

21:39How about that? Absolutely. What are you going to – what's it called? The Red River Rivalry? It's impossible to say. So what are you going to wear that day? What's Tate going to wear? Well, here's how I always – we went to a tailgate party. In Dallas. And Rocky and I wore UT colors and Alex and Tate wore Oklahoma colors. You need a house divided flag? Yeah, let's do that. That's a good one. I'm good with whatever. They actually do make those house divided flags. They're so funny. Let's get a house divided flag. There's a literal divide on the flag and it's part OU, part Texas. Let's do that. Yeah, I'm up for whatever.

22:18Well, I know you are, but I'm just saying Harrison said to me at the start of the season, I'm going to ride with OU. I was like, great. So he's got his bike. We do have some gear. I just thought we could ride both and that would just kind of like everyone from OU would understand. And what I've realized is they don't, they're not understanding that. Yeah. We just, here's, here's my point. We got to get some crimson, which was on me. Let's do it. Yeah, I want a bucket hat. And I want more t-shirts for me. And just to level set, when we set up the theater downstairs, what do we have? Top left corner?

22:49Texas. Top right? Texas helmet. Top right corner? OU helmet. So we're supporting those sides. Texas coasters, OU coasters. So, yeah. No, no, no. Honey, you have done a very good job repping OU with me. my point is yesterday on the inter-wide web i posted the outfits of the house and there we needed to fix them i would go as far to say maybe we need to change for games maybe we need to have an ou outfit for the 11 o 'clock and by seven we're in our texas gear yeah i'm happy to okay maybe we'll do more of that i'm happy to what was your saturday morning suggestion okay thank you jules moving on killed this uh my to the point of support we're gonna bring it all in here okay 11 o 'clock michigan ou so what what do i suggest well harrison he was like we're gonna watch this game we're gonna run we're gonna ride for ou big time let's cook a massive feast and invite um a couple families over and let's watch the games and and eat a big breakfast and have the kids run around.

23:55But the neighbors are better cooked than we are. So we went and got the groceries and took it to their house. Minor pivot. Minor pivot. Excels at breakfast. He is such a good cook. He's a very good, there's a couple of pieces to it. He's a very good cutter. And he has very good dishes. Like he has a cast iron that is, it's so big, it goes across like two of the heat plates. And so when he goes and makes his breakfast potatoes, he can just put so much more in there. Okay. So I think if you're looking for things to do as a parent on a Saturday morning, 10 o 'clock breakfast, invite two other families over and have the games on in the background, buffet style, we did um make your own breakfast tacos eggs sausage bacon cheese avocado okay yeah just all the toppings is good there all the traditional breakfast foods yep just and some people breakfast some people were making breakfast bowls some people were making tacos i have a i have a bicker of the week for you guys on this topic let's go what do you guys think about eating non-breakfast food for breakfast okay yesterday i had pork chops and rice it's a hungover move that's what i think about it what it's a hungover move to eat non-breakfast food for breakfast you wake up and you smash a burger or pizza for breakfast it's because you're hungover i'm not talking about a burger or pizza like this morning i had a quarter of a um caba bob's burrito for breakfast i thought it was gonna be sushi that's a hungover move just don't drink I know that.

25:41But like if you're asking me, what do I, if I hear someone smashes a burrito, half a burrito for breakfast, I'm like, oh, they had a big Saturday night. I'm fine with the burrito. I'm fine with the pork chop and rice. I think it's an insane move. I think sushi's the question. Like sushi for breakfast, that doesn't feel right to me. But they do that in Japan all the time. So here's my thing. If I have something that's not a breakfast item for breakfast, it kind of ruins my day. What? Like come lunch, I'm like, this is boring. This is a boring food day. I love the food group of breakfast being at breakfast.

26:14I get so excited for eggs in the morning. The other thing, and I just saw Greg was posting about this and the power of like simplifying your food routine. That's me. Same meal. Doing that with breakfast where you can just hammer out amazing, clean, high protein foods, eggs sausage like avocado done i'll have sweet potato and chicken for breakfast that is interesting sweet potato and whatever meat that i have that's a wild move my friends are just like they're do your friends do that too no no they're yelling at me for eating random food for breakfast these days yeah i think like a toast an egg but why do you think that i think there's like seven foods that are breakfast foods bacon i think jules is making a good point here They're like, why does an egg have to be for breakfast?

27:08I think that there was some marketing once upon a time, probably. No, she's right. Like, eggs could go anywhere in the day. Yeah, like, do you guys not eat eggs for dinner? I mean, I love a breakfast for dinner. But see, look, I'm calling you breakfast. It was our fourth date.

27:22Okay. Where did we go? I made you breakfast at your apartment. Oh, he did. And we did art. I thought we did board games. We did. To connect for. Which is not really a board game. A game. Jules I agree with you I think it's a phenomenal point uh but there are certain things in life that I subscribe to and eating eggs every day in the morning is one of them okay like I love it I love it if I yeah if I didn't like that I would move it like you're moving you're you're putting sweet potatoes and chicken in the morning like if I wanted to do that I would and if I did that I would like maybe eat eggs for dinner I do all the time okay guys here's a fun one Jules did not apply for a job here.

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29:14Try it for free at ZipRecruiter.com slash Alex. That's ZipRecruiter.com slash Alex. Meet your match on ZipRecruiter. We also had gymnastics yesterday. Tate loves gymnastics. It's been really cute because she, we've started to ask her, like in the mornings we'll ask her, what do you want to do? Wait. What? We already talked about all this. I'm so glad that you did that and not me. This has been happening to me a lot since weaning. So much so, Jules, that I almost showered twice last night. So I got in bed last night and I had my pajamas on and I was like, oh my gosh, I didn't shower? And then I was like, yes, you did.

29:55Wow. I know. I think it's a weaning thing. I'm pretty sure because it's directly correlated with that. Yeah. I know. Interesting. So. All right. Let's move into some topics, shall we? Do we want to move into some topics? Yeah. I had one other thing that I'm blanking on, but let's get on to the topics. Well, what do you think you're blanking on? You're going on your trip. We got Tate's birthday this week. I think it was the 10 o 'clock breakfast suggestion. Okay. It was a Saturday morning activity. Okay. Okay. You're not weaning, so you're not allowed to forget that. Yeah, that's such a good point, Jules.

30:35Thank you for that. All right. Do we want to do Pokemon cards? It's a Harrison News topic. It's an H-bomb. I mean, this was a Julie bomb, so. Well, it's in the Harrison News category. Jules shared this one. So, Jules, give it to us. Who is AJ Scaramucci? Anthony Scaramucci's son. Okay, so he bought Logan Paul's Pokemon card for$16 million because he treats collectibles as alternative assets. He's predicting that cards will become, they'll be worth$50 to$100 million soon. The headline from this also was Pokemon cards have apparently outpaced the S &P 500 by 3 ,000 % in the last 20 years.

31:23um so my question i guess we can go back my question i one wanted to hear if he had anything on this but two like what what are we saving that rocky has right now that's going to be worth 16 million dollars in 20 years okay if i had to guess okay there's a lot of of inaccuracies within that statement okay let's do it let's let's talk through what they are hold on i should tell the story. Yesterday, Tate and I were at the coffee shop and I ran into Olivia's husband and Kyle and his mom and Suede and we were outside talking. And I felt just like this jab in my foot and I looked down and there was a bee stuck on it.

32:02And I was just like, Kyle, because I didn't want to freak out in front of Tate. I was just like, Kyle, you're going to have to get the bee out of my foot. And he pulled out the bee and then he looked down and he was like, the stinger still stuck and I need to pull the stinger. I was fine until last night. My foot swelled up so bad I could hardly walk. Oh, no. And now it's itching like crazy. Do you think you're slightly allergic to bees? No, I just think it's the venom. Right? I don't know. Oh, but once you itch it once, ow, it's like puffy and red and hot. It's just crazy that a bee can do that to you.

32:35Yeah, I've never been sung by a bee. Oh, it's my second time. It's the worst. It's actually not the worst. It's fine. Yeah. Just kind of have to like move on. okay great all right um so what what are the inaccuracies in this football card pokemon card go uh

32:57are have certain cards outperform the s &p 500 yes have certain cards like drastically underperform the s &p 500 absolutely so on average you think it's going to be less I'm saying like, so I think these Charizard cards are huge. Charizard, remember? Were you in Pokemon, Harrison? Yeah, I mean, everyone kind of growing up has their phase. I would think it very much was a part of my life as it is to most teenage boys. So if you own that card, the returns are financial. But if you owned, you know, the basic... Jigglypuff? Jigglypuff, then you're toast. And not to mention, you had to buy it and you had to keep it in mint condition.

33:46And there are a whole bunch of things you need to do to generate that return versus the S &P 500. You're just clicking and buying an ETF. I guess I guess - Plus, there's so many ways to dissect that. So where I understand buying something and it gaining value is like art, for example. I really understand that. It was painted. It's beautiful. It's framed. It's displayed. It's an art form, quite literally. Like that I can wrap my head around. These little cards. It's all supply demand. That's a tough one for me. Watches, jewelry. I kind of can understand that as well. Supply demand. Friday, my friend was talking about that she did her senior thesis on alternative assets.

34:35Talked about Birkin bags. They're apparently like they appreciate the second you buy them, I guess. I don't know. I understand that too, though. I personally haven't really messed around with alternative assets other than crypto. And the main driver of that is I find them very hard to value when you look at the sheer underlying fundamentals of them. it's like you can when you buy a stock you can value the company through its future earnings yeah there's a currency a real currency so this company makes um a hundred dollars a year and it trades at 10 times those earnings so if you own it for 10 years and all else stays equal you'll get your money back in 10 years right versus with a lot of alternatives And what alternatives, that's also like kind of a, so many things fit in the bucket of alternatives.

35:39So now we're, we should, we actually need to clarify collectibles because I mess around a lot in alternatives. Collectibles I don't play around with because yeah, like I, I find it very hard to value them from a fundamental perspective. and it feels like so much of it is like understanding momentum and the pop culture dynamics and and i'm just not in in the loop of that but people make a lot of money on them just cars for example yeah that's i'm just i don't mess i don't i don't mess with that but some people do and some people make a lot of money doing it some people lose a lot of money so he's predicting he's saying i'm gonna buy a pokemon card for 16 million assuming he can sell it for 50 to 100 yeah so what i know about or what i've what i read about who would want to buy a 50 million card who would want to buy a 16 million dollar card that it's a card uh so i think what he's doing is he's creating a fund or a company and they collect um you know the most rare uh the most rare assets that just because they printed one card like what if i print one of something That's the only one of those.