Family trips with friends, "airport divorce" & is confidence the secret to success?!

0:00Two Parents & A Podcast:Fourth of July savings are happening now at The Home Depot with select appliances starting at$398. Plus, get free delivery on appliance purchases of$398 or more, no membership required. Upgrade your kitchen with a modern and sleek GE profile refrigerator featuring hands-free autofill for the perfect pour every time. And make laundry day easier with two-in-one washer-dryer combo innovation that completes laundry in about 90 minutes. Shop top brand appliances now at The Home Depot. Offer valid June 17th and July 8th at the U.S. only C-Store Online for details. Okay, we're going to go, Jules. Okay, I'm going to eat myself.

0:34Welcome to another episode of Two Parents in a Podcast. Is this our first remote recording? Mountain edition. Mountain edition. We are Colorado. Is it Coloradians? You know me. I have no idea. Harrison, of course, has an iced coffee. And, you guys, he has his new leather notebook that he got from the farmer's market today. if you're on youtube he's showing you or on video made some notes for today's episode in here did you yeah what are we going to talk about we actually programmed on a hike this morning we took the two kiddos um okay what hold on let's do a little uh we just we've got a you know random human outside the door well that's it it's like a live viewer it's like a it's an irl there's no studio one day we'll do a live so if you if you can't see us we are in colorado right now we're in our airbnb which by the way our new thing is like the life hack with kids is airbnb which i'm burping i know harrison already said but i just want to say best thing ever and like our our airbnb is small like tate sleeps in the living room and we just like barricade it and make it dark right there yeah but like this thing it's amazing because we just like make breakfast here walk around no the the kitchen is is is huge the kitchen is huge the kitchen is not massive in size it is a huge thing to have good clarification exactly it's perfect it's absolutely perfect but it's funny because we're in an apartment complex i now see what you mean though with the people walking by they're just walking by attention the other day i was pumping while the guy was watering the flowers outside that was a moment so i i have a thing i don't know if it's like to call you out on or or to maybe ask your opinion of this was not in programming but this was a neighbor t and i um a neighbor t and i observation today okay what was it okay you can tell how good a friends two girls are by the tone of their voice when they run into each other oh me you have a tone of voice and it's funny enough it's always matched by the other person like when you'll see them oh my god how are you and i'm like oh like they they like have met one or two times well as opposed to if i see somebody i know really well and we're like hey what's up it's a very different tone of voice and and i was beside neighbor t when the interaction happened and i was like oh they barely know each other and he's like i know the voice yeah i know the voice i we've run into a lot of people here that i know um that we all know like but what i'm saying is i can tell by the tone of voice how well you know them yes because you ran into some people you know very well family friends yeah uh people you went to college with versus on the other end you ran into people that you've met once or twice yeah of course you're gonna have different um i don't think guys have different tones i think that we're very like hey how's it going oh yeah girls do have different greeting tones.

3:40I guess this is a really good point. Very upsetting that we can't. So Jules is listening, but she doesn't have a mic. Uh, so we can't get her opinion on this, which is heartbreaking. Yeah. Jules is on FaceTime watching the computer, making sure that our audio is recording. Um, one thing that I want to say, okay, I want to discuss off the top. Number one, if you're listening, can I just put an, uh, like a rounded out, put a pin in the Airbnb thought, A bow. A bow, thank you. Like, I'd never loved the use case of Airbnbs pre-kids. I felt like the only time I'd ever do them was on bachelor parties.

4:18And even in that scenario, I'd generally rather just stay at a hotel. Huge hotel guy. Still love hotels. But grand new appreciation for Airbnb around family travel. I get it. I get it. Yeah, me too. But I did see during the World Cup and currently, I guess, a lot of people were mad at Airbnb because they were spiking the prices. But that's not Airbnb's choice. I know. But hotel wasn't spiking the prices. And so I was seeing people making TikToks just being like, we're going to go back to hotels. Like if they're cheaper, we're just going to go there. It used to be said at Airbnbs because they were cheaper.

4:52But guys, if you're going to drive the price of your Airbnbs up just because the World Cup's in your city, we're just going to go stay at a hotel. But that's driven by hosts versus hotels, which I'm sure have more of a dynamic pricing. I just thought it was interesting. Speaking of the World Cup, the United States moves on to another round. Yes. So the Bosnia-U.S. game received, I believe it was 30 million, 33 million peak viewers. Wow. Versus the NBA Finals, which I believe were 22 million. But you're saying that's... The numbers are definitely directionally right, but wrong in terms of the specifics.

5:32But that's just America's numbers. That's America's numbers, yes. U.S. viewership. Because in general, the World Cup is like blowing the NBA finals, I would assume, viewership out of the water. The first watch, I haven't seen the latest ratings, but the first match, I believe, was 1.2 billion global views. That's hilarious. That was South Korea, Mexico. So that is, I mean, that just tells you how big it is. Okay, so now, but I would say this, especially the vibe in this town was like the World Cup has arrived. People care. Every single bar, every single bar was full. Jam-packed. Every single bar was full.

6:11It was unbelievable. When the U.S. scored like USA, USA chants all over, the fever is alive and we're in full swing. I'm really into it. Full World Cup fever right now. What's going to suck those if we lose? Then it's just like over. We got a good matchup against Belgium. Coming next? What day? Coming next? Monday. Monday. I believe 6 p.m. Okay, great. So we got Monday plans. But Google knows better. Got Monday plans. Well, we land at 5 and I believe the game's at 6. Okay, wow.

6:41Two Parents & A Podcast:Yeah. Okay, great. So did I already say subscribe? Nope. Okay, so subscribe if you're listening. Thank you for listening. Happy Monday. I hope you guys had a great 4th of July. We're back. in action we never left action what i don't really know why well we did because we did the two pre-recorded shows we did the our relationship history in the q a and now we're getting back in the mix now we're back into irl zone the only thing we're not doing is typically we record episodes the morning of but this is obviously just you know friday and this comes out monday so we're recording it in colorado um we've been having a blast we're not going to talk too much about it because like we were programming this morning and we're like all right what do we want to discuss programming means we were talking about what we're going to discuss on the podcast and like it this it's not that interesting like we're having the best time traveling with friends is so much fun the kids are have like we are having a blast but like not a lot else to cover well but i do want to dive into how how much fun it is and how amazing it is traveling with friends who have kids the same age as your kids especially when your kids know those kids yeah because what I will say is I don't think I've seen Tate have more fun than she's had over the past few days because she's in a new place experiencing all these things, outdoor things that she loves, and she's doing it with her people, with these familiar faces.

8:07And it started on the plane. Like when we got to the airport and she saw Wawa and she saw Liv and neighbor T and Shannon and extended families like it was the joy on her face she couldn't believe everyone she was over the top and that's carried through so uh that to me has been the biggest takeaway is like if you can plan a trip with friends and those friends have the same uh kids the same age as you like so much fun so the other thing is there are so many kids here right now and what's been fun is like we talked i I know we talked a couple episodes ago about making friends as like parents. When you go to the parks here, one thing that is so much fun is your kids play with other kids.

8:56So then you naturally start talking to the other parents. And you're not, it's different from going to the park in Austin because then you either know them, you see them a lot. Like at that point, it's kind of rinse and repeat. But here when you see people, like we met a bunch of people from Dallas last night at the park. And I was saying to Harrison, if they were seated beside us at a restaurant, I would have never been like, hey, where are you guys from? But our kids start playing together at the parks. We're like, hey, where are you guys from? They're like Dallas. I feel like that is like summertime vacation mindset, whether that you're doing that in a mountain town or you're doing that, you know, off the lake in Michigan.

9:32But that's what I'm saying. Doing it somewhere that's not your home is really fun with kids to meet parents that way. Here's something I didn't know until recently. One in three Americans think they're sensitive to gluten, but actually only about 1 % have celiac disease. For everyone else, it might be something else in those foods called FODMAPs, you guys. And going gluten-free doesn't always help. FODZYME is a tasteless powder you sprinkle right into your food and it helps break down FODMAPs, the hard-to-digest components in food that can cause bloating, gas, and pain before they cause discomfort.

10:06Fodzyme makes digestion easier so you can eat more of what you love. Think of it like lactate, but for garlic, onions, wheat, beans, cheese, and other common foods with Fodmaps. We're so excited to partner with Fodzymes and offer you 30 % off your first order when you go to Icaneatagain.com slash twoparents. That's Icaneatagain.com slash twoparents for 30 % off your first order. Finally, you can enjoy your favorite foods without the pain. Just go to Icaneatagain.com slash twoparents. So, all right, that's kind of like we're hiking. I don't know. We're having a blast. We're doing dinners. We're going to the park for dinner.

10:43We're grilling out. We're cooking at home. So it's been good. Yeah, you know, I was a big, this isn't from the notes, but I was wondering where we were going to go next. And then something popped into my head to that. I was a huge, um, what's it called? I carry the kid in the, uh, carrier in the carrier. Sure. I was a huge carrier guy. I bought for Tate for Tate. And now Rocky and I are starting to use the carrier, which is a lot of fun. He loves it. I bought the hiking backpack for the trip. I'm not sold. Well, it's hard on your back, it appears. The weight distribution, like you really only have an hour in it.

11:19I thought the weight distribution would be a little better. Maybe I should have used it, you know, six, eight months ago. but it like I was hoping to hike to the top of the mountain with her on it and it's gonna be a no. Yeah, because it's too heavy. It's gonna be a no. Yeah. How much does Tay weigh? Do we know? I think 30 pounds directionally. That's a lot on your back. It's not a lot on your back if she's just doing a piggyback. I think my weighted vest is 25 pounds. Oh, so you've been training for this moment your whole life. And I would have no problem doing the Ute hike in my way to the vest.

11:58I wish I was doing it in my way to the vest. So it's just because she's hanging off your back. The weight distribution of it is, it's not as comfortable as I'd hoped. The way I could wear her, funny enough, I put Tate on my chest yesterday just to try it out in the carrier, and I barely noticed her there. You put her in the front, on the back. And she actually loved it, because she saw Rocky and I doing it, so she wanted to start doing it.

12:23Two Parents & A Podcast:I wanted to go back in the carrier. Yeah, so I thought I would love, I was getting ready to come on here, be like my new go-to device for parenting is the child backpack. Nope. And we'll put a picture up of it in case it's not clear what I'm talking about. The other thing we've got to talk about in Colorado, love Texas, love Texas, a bunch of different reasons. One reason I didn't realize how much I love Texas, but I relearned at lunch today. They still use paper straws here. I had a plastic straw at that place yesterday with Tate. Really? Yeah, I got her a smoothie. That's why I said they don't have the black straws.

13:02Because Bubba had to use a plastic straw or a paper straw for a smoothie today. And I haven't seen her get more frustrated around a situation in a very long time. Like amazing for six sips and then it cratered in on her and she could not figure it out. Didn't want a new one. And it was, yeah, it reminded me of my San Francisco days and the ridiculousness of that paper straw era. And I'm all for, you know, if we want to get rid of plastic and do something different, I'm all for it. It just has to work. It can't be disintegrating in my mouth. Totally. I love a glass straw. I'm good with that. But restaurants aren't going to give you a glass straw.

13:42So I've had a lot of plastic straws here, though. That's the first paper one I've seen. And, like, that girl, she could not figure it out because I can't figure it out. Yeah. I don't blame her. Okay. So let's move on to things we DM'd. Okay. You want to talk about your birthday? I had the best birthday. We had my best friends were here. Ten people total. Ten people total. For the festivities. Went around, got some sunglasses. Do you guys want to see them? They're right here. I'm in the market. My one thing I wanted to give myself for my birthday was sunglasses, and I did it. Here they are. they're um a purple and yellow sort of aviator situation so I'm very excited about those they're they've really had a rough go though because Tate found them I keep trying to keep them away from her but she gets her hands really greasy and she's really getting on the lens so I this is what this is my new sunglass thing so our friend Hannah Chody did a video about her getting her color analysis done and then her doing the correct sunglasses for her color hue.

14:47Hannah is, some of you guys might follow her. She's blonde, tan. Like I think her and I are similarly colored, but we're not the exact same color. So anyways, just from watching her, I learned some sunglass cut. Like I don't want to go so stark black on all my sunglasses. So what I did this trip was I I bought these. These are yellow and purple. And then I bought a pair of like really tan ones, which was interesting because on this color analysis, they would put a color here and they'd be like, it brings out the bags in your eyes. Or this makes your eyes pop. So it's very fascinating to see these color analysis.

15:24I haven't done it yet. I had chat do mine. They said I was a light spring. So anyways, I got new sunglasses. It was my birthday present to myself. We're still searching for Harrison's birthday present to me. There was a great birthday mindset that you shared with me on a hike this morning. that I think the listenership would appreciate. Okay, tell us. I don't remember. How to assess where you're at or... Oh, your mom said it to me. She said you should be proud of where you are and who you're with. But there was like a zinger before that. If you want to get a feel for where you're at in life today, look at who you spend your birth...

16:00where you're spending your birthday and who you're spending it with. Yeah, and you don't have to travel for your birthday by any means. My birthday is easy to travel for because it's always tacked on to the fourth. But a great example being like my birthday in Austin, a city we love surrounded by people that we love, that checked the box on those. When I look back at that March 12th date, very happy with the place, very happy with the people. Very happy with the place metaphorically as well, symbolically. I don't get it. Like where you're at. Oh, placement in life. A holistic view. Yes. You know, there's a couple words I think that people get from their spouses.

16:42You know, holistic is one I've gotten from you. Similarly. Similarly. Secondarily. Secondary. I don't know if that's a real word. That's a big one for you. This is one we'd normally call in Jules. And then you go second. What'd she say? She said directionally. Jules, directionally is, there's other ones. Here's why I got to stand by directionally. is because remembering the specific details can often be very hard, but you're often in the right ballpark of what you're saying, and you don't want the people you're talking to to nitpick what you're saying. It wasn't 33 million. It was 31 million. It was that ballpark of people.

17:27We're proving the point. If we're a couple points off, so be it. So you say that's directionally true. Yeah. People also love when Harrison says Allah. Ah, people also love when Harrison says Allah. Yes. Allah is, I haven't taken that one from you yet, but there's a lot of words. I'm trying to think of some more EBITDA. I don't know what it means. That's hilarious because that is, yeah, that's just very funny. But what does it mean? Earnings before interest, tax, and depreciation. Yeah, I'm always listening to, what is it, EBITDA? And amortization. Yeah, no idea what any of that means. But yeah, there's some, what words have you taken from me?

18:06A cement. What else? Oh, don't put me on the spot like this, please. Okay. I'll think of something. I'll think of more from you too. I'll think of something. Okay. So the, the things we DM that I wanted to discuss because we're back sort of flying again, you know, we've taken two trips and we were on a, as a hiatus, the right word, does that mean a pause? Yeah. We were on a flying hiatus, a flying pause for a while when we had rocket man. um that's what i call rocky by the way so i saw this dm that was airport divorce which means you go to the airport and a lot of couples fight at the airport so what people have started doing is like you go to the airport and the minute you get there you're single you're not married to your spouse you get through security on your own you go eat on your own and you meet back up at the gate to avoid the fight yes to avoid the fight because there's a lot of i guess a lot of people fight at the airport my question is when these people get on the plane are you sitting with your spouse of course okay because i there's nothing that there's nobody i want to sit by on the airplane except for you right back at you right back at you there is no denying the high stress dynamic of traveling with with kids okay so it it lands well i don't think you can do this with kids i think the key yeah you divide and conquer okay you divide and conquer okay i think that getting in a fight with your partner when it's just the two of you traveling i don't get that i agree like i don't like when i look at when we've had our like airport or travel tips it's never been just the two of us traveling it's always been when we've had either tater both of them because like there's so many more logistics to handle yeah traveling the two of you is a vacation i now realize i could do that in stride yeah we haven't done that have we done that but they've been born just the two of us no not yet we haven't left him um but what i wanted to go with that we unintentionally did before this trip is the night before we game planed the morning and i presented we had an early morning flight and what i didn't want to be doing was getting these like back and forth at 6 30 a.m about like how we're dealing with the parking scenario at the airport and how we're dealing with a bag drop off and security.

20:28And so I presented my plan for the morning and night before. And I said, Hey, here is how I think we should do things tomorrow. How does this sound to you? If there's anything you disagree with, then let's come up with the updated game plan now and not do it, uh, at six ish in the morning at directionally six. One thing that's still true for me is that when life gets busy as a parent, eating well is usually the first thing that slips. I don't necessarily have trouble finding healthy food. I just don't always have time or energy to figure out what to make or to grocery shop every week. That's why I've stuck with Hungry Root, you guys.

21:07One thing I've loved lately about Hungry Root is it's been introducing me to new high-protein snacks and easy lunch options that I probably would never have picked up on my own because you guys know how I eat and it's very simple. I end up finding new favorites and they become part of my regular order. And that's why I really love Hungry Root because it has lasted for me because it offers so many new options. And the more personalized it gets, the more I actually like it. And it helps me with my goals, especially breastfeeding you guys, because it recommends groceries that are high protein. And with over a thousand grocery items to choose from, it never feels repetitive.

21:44And I know I'm getting high quality ingredients without a bunch of unnecessary additives. And that's something that's very important to us, you guys. and at this point I barely have to think about grocery shopping anymore you guys are going to love Hungry Root too just as much as we do so for a limited time get 40 % off your first order plus get a free item in every box for life go to HungryRoot.com slash two parents and use code two parents that's HungryRoot.com slash two parents code two parents to get 40 % off your first box and a free item of your choice for life but it was a really good idea because one thing about me at the airport is there a lot of there's a lot of can i just walk through what we did well hold on there's a lot of times in life where i have a lot of opinions okay the airport's not one of them especially being postpartum right now i i have some areas where i just want to zonk out like if harrison says what do you want to do for dinner i don't want to pick i want you to pick at the airport i see girls make these videos and it's just like la di da di da and they're just blindly following their partner that's all i want to do yes but where I need to like push back on that.

22:47Push back. That's, that's the largest word I've taken from you. Is the, the game plan we had was I was going to pull up, take the bags out, do the curbside checkout. And then you were going to go through security with Rocky. I was going to go park the car with Tate and then go through security with Tate and meet you and meet you after. So we were going to separate. And I thought you may have a problem with us separating in the airport so that's what I didn't want to do is have us be there early in the morning and having come up this plan make okay I'm gonna go drop the car off and you'd be like no you're not right but I was good but you asked me you said okay this is what I'm thinking are you good with that I was like I'm great with that okay look at that so so what's the the the is there a something that we haven't discussed on the airport divorce well it's just a funny topic area and not so much a topic so I'm not for the airport divorce because my nightmare would be going without you.

23:42Not because... But you just went without me and is it not smoother to divide and conquer at the airport where one parent goes with one kid and one parent goes with the other kid? Yeah, that was a lot smoother. You're correct in that. And we met up on the other side of security. So yeah, that was actually great. You're right. You're right. But then from there, I like to sit by you guys because otherwise I find it gets a little lonely for me. Okay, well... I also find it's easier to hand you Rocky and then me take Tate And then you take Tate and then I take Rocky. And we just kind of like shift around like that.

24:14But you know what? You are correct. Through security, it was a lot easier just having one in one. Yeah. No doubt. Okay. Now, there was something that you sent about Meta. Oh, so this is interesting. And so I think it's something like this statistic directionally. was Meta is spending, call it$2.4 billion a year on AI tokens. What's a token? So when you sign up for ChatGPT or Claude or whatever, your plan, you'll subscribe to a monthly plan and you'll get a certain amount of tokens that you get to use. So every search you run uses a certain amount of tokens. And the more tokens you use, the more you get charged.

25:06Okay. So the kind of deeper dive analysis on that is that's the equivalent of 9 ,000 full-time engineers. Okay. And so I think the general math there would be like 300. If you're paying an engineer$300 ,000 a year, you get 9 ,000 of them. That's the two plus billion dollars of expense. And so the question becomes, with Facebook taking on this increased spend, have they shipped anything that is reflective of the work that 9 ,000 engineers would have done? And what's your answer? Does that make sense? Yes, I understand the question. I don't have enough info to know if they have. I don't think so.

25:49Nothing groundbreaking has happened. As a consumer, there's nothing that I'm seeing there. And it puts into question, while AI is incredibly, while it can do a lot of interesting things, we're still very much in the phase of proving out the return on investment of all of this token usage. And so are we using AI to actually implement things that drive increased cost savings? Or is it a bunch of fluff, for lack of a better word? Okay. So do jury still out? We don't directionally know. There's no doubt that the usefulness of AI, I think the question is how much more effective is it if you just had true people doing it given the cost?

26:44Got it. Thank you. That's the question that's starting to come out. Now we're cooking with kerosene. Have you heard of that? No, I have not. Playing with house money. These are called what are those called? Eula liquids? Eugenisms? No. Definitely not. Two idiots in a pod right now. What are those called?

27:08something with a q or like a jules do you know what those are called

27:16like a ukulele ah it's gonna drive me crazy and i know the if the listener knows then they're gonna know um okay so the question is basically is ai replacing humans no it is like facebook is spending meta spending two plus billion dollars a year today that they weren't spending five years ago the question is would that two plus billion dollars be better spent on hiring 9 000 more engineers or on uh on all this ai and token usage that that and And when you look at it from that lens, it's a much more interesting question. And this is what people should comment today. That's what they should comment.

28:08You should let us know what you guys think. Do you have a thought? Do you have an answer on this? To me, I need to see more. Jury's still out. I'm a little unclear. I will say this. AI's doing some pretty cool stuff pretty quickly. I'm impressed. I'm impressed. Yeah, obviously, I'm a big user of AI. Just, I love to always show the other side of things. Well, I think that's what we should do. And I think that people should comment and let us know. Okay. What do we have from here? Why don't we? What is it? Colloquial. Colloquial. Colloquialism. That's what it is. I was trying to get that look. The colloquialism.

28:46We were at lunch and Shannon was like, I'm really bad at colloquialisms. And we were like, what does that word mean? And it's things like playing with house money, which that means house money is not real money. It's on the house, right? At a casino. You're playing with their money. Yes. Okay, cool. So let's discuss the birthday questions that we did. I'm going to just circle back to birthday really quick because I thought these were really good. And one of my friends asked me these questions. And I think it's really fun to do on your birthday. Um, so what are you leaving behind? What are you taking with you and what are you picking up?

29:30So what are you leaving behind? Um, that could be an example of, I'm leaving behind a bad attitude. I don't know. What are you taking with you? I'm taking with you. Um, and it's not obvious things like your family, X, Y, Z, but what are you taking with you? The new working, like the new, the three episodes, writing the sub stack, like hard work. Okay. Yeah, I think if you're going to do this, you've got to give concrete answers. Well, I have forgotten what I left behind. Okay. So if you could help me there. What I'm taking with me is what I was taking with me. I think that you, what you said that you were leaving behind was people that suck the wind out of your...

30:12Sales. Out of your sales. Yeah. Like I, it happens the older I get and I don't even really like to talk about it because it feels negative. But I more so like to do this with my actions. of just, you know, if we're not, if you're not up, I have so many, okay, I used to always say I have, you know, so many seats at my table. I'll fill them. I want everyone to eat but not always at my table, right? But if you think about my table. I think that was a Tupac line, by the way. Was it? Yeah. I saw this guy the other day. It was just this white guy and he was dancing on Instagram and like the most liked comment was like close enough welcome back Tupac yeah I just I haven't stopped laughing since then um yeah but on the friend thing so at my table my seats right now I'm really good with them I have some friends in life that are pushing me not pushing me but But they're doing really cool stuff, and that makes you want to do cool stuff.

31:22Austin, to me in general, there's a lot of entrepreneurs there. I ran into – I think you'd be okay with me saying his name. Okay, I won't say his name. But I ran into a Barry's instructor who was launching a protein powder, and I think it actually launched last week, which is why he's probably okay with me saying it. But he was shipping a bunch of stuff. I said, what are you doing? And he said, I'm launching a protein powder. I said, good for you. And he was like, yeah, it's contagious in this town. I was like, it sure is. Like who you surround yourself with really is so important. And so what I love about my friends at this, the ripe age of 33 now is the seats at my table, you included, my dear, really hold me accountable.