Feeding in the first year: our experience with breastfeeding, combo feeding & solids

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1:20Month by month of how it was. Yeah. Well, this feels like something that you've talked a lot about consistently throughout the journey and throughout prior episodes. And so I think it'll be really interesting to hear you bring it all together here today. Well, it consumes your every thought, right? As a mom. So it's like all we talk about, like today, the neighbor mom and I were texting constantly about like what kind of milk we're going to buy, right like feeding your kid is such an important thing but the breastfeeding it's just it's a bunch of unknowns so we're gonna dive into it we're gonna break it down month by month and um it's gonna be great but before that we're obviously gonna sit here and shoot the shi t i was wondering why we didn't do like the pre-intro like normally we kind of do the banter before we just went right into it today do you want to know what i'm upset about i'd love to hear and i'm not a big i'm not big on pop culture okay shocked floored and beside myself that keith urban um okay i'm blanking on her name nicole kidman i like know her so yeah nicole kidman i cannot believe they broke up i'm shocked me as well i couldn't even have told you that they were together they're like 20 years yeah one of hollywood's longest standing couples in like a real couple and they were kind of out of the spotlight a bit didn't they like live in nashville i think they He lived in Australia.

2:39Australia. They have their kids. They're just cute. And do we know what happened? Well, the only thing I saw was he said six months into their marriage, his addiction got in the way and started causing them lots of problems. I don't know if he ever handled it. I don't know what happened. But I just thought they were a really cute family. I don't know. In Hollywood, if you make it 20 years, don't you just kind of go the whole way? I guess not. I don't know. I was really sad. I was just really sad for them. So I hope everything's okay. Very sad. but I could not pick that man out of a line. But you could pick her out.

3:11Oh, for sure. Maybe they stuck it out for the kids. Maybe one kid just went to college. A lot of times you see that. Parents stay together until kids go to college. So maybe it was something like that. I don't know. But nonetheless. Look at that. Pop culture pod. This is a pop culture. I was just really, really sad about it. I don't have any takes on it, but I'm just sad about it. The other thing I want to talk about is I am completely paralyzed by Halloween costumes. I ordered Tate a Sully because, because, okay, TikTok shop is killing me. I hate to tell you this. I did so good. And I like wouldn't buy her outfits.

3:45I think there's truly seven or eight outfits arriving to the house. They're not Halloween costumes. They're, they're fall themed. They're pumpkins. They're like, I don't know. I can't, I'm just like obsessed with it. But here's the thing on TikTok shop. They had this really cute Sully outfit for a one-year-old and I clicked on it and it said there was only one left in stock. So I bought it. I was operating out of fear. And then I realized that happens to me all the time. There's always one left in stock. And I think they tell everybody there's one left in stock. So you have a scarcity mindset and you press buy.

4:16So we had to solely arrive to the house. She's not going to be solely, but I just wanted to have it in case. What do you think she's going to be?

4:25If I have, oh, the one-year-old outfits are so cute. the little and the little they make mini they're truly adorable so I don't think we want to ruin what we're going to make she's not going to be any of these things I think she's going to be a I think her and Winnie are going to be a I think it's the perfect and we can be a man that's the outfit okay maybe we just believe it it's really kind of cute keep it in yeah oh I love that that's such a good idea I thought about doing it for her and Winnie because you can make them custom okay this is done and we're early enough to order it yeah okay i didn't tell you about it i can't tell you how many costumes i've looked at i was really hyper fixated on food because she was a hot dog last year yeah we crushed the food last year what food options were there well there's a sushi roll yeah which is pretty funny but then like what are we a chef i guess yeah um there's a sushi roll there is a uh there's a there's a ketchup and a mustard but there was another cuter one not a ketchup not a mustard oh i can't remember there's a pretty cute chicken outfit on etsy it's adorable honestly but then like what are we you know farmers farming the chicken oh i guess just we we're farmers and she's the chicken on our land winners is an egg i could be an egg oh you could be an egg i could be an egg you could be an egg and then you could be the farmer with the thing you know the old school photo of the guy with the pitchfork yeah okay last thing i want to talk about off the top that i've been thinking a lot about is our neighbor has a bow and arrow in his backyard like he has an archery set and i we went over and we did it one day and it was really fun and i've i've really been thinking maybe i want to get one i would have a craving to go back over there and do it okay a bow and arrow craving and then i remembered i used to do archery back at camp when i was little and i was pretty good at it.

6:26Those bow and arrows were easier though. His is real. I was going to say, how did you do on the one you shot? Well, I didn't do well with his because his is a real one. You hit the target? No, you did. Is this what you want me to say? No, no, no. I was asking. I forgot. You want me to ask you back? How did you do? My memory isn't good. Also, I need to tell you on October 12th we're going to a pumpkin patch with all the girls. I sent you a calendar invite. I thought there was only one family you had on there. Because I didn't want to type all the last names so I just figured But if I put one last name on there, boom.

6:54It's so funny. I was going to message them being like, oh, I love this. No, it's my mom group text. Okay, one last thing I've been really thinking about doing. And I typed out the text message, but I didn't press send. But in my mom group text, I wanted to invite everybody over for coffees on Friday morning. Oh, I love this. Like the families or just the girls? Whoever can come. Just like come hang out and have coffee Friday morning. Ooh. At nine. I thought nine to ten. A coffee situation. This is a great idea. I don't know if people can do it, though. I don't know everyone's schedule, but I can at least toss it out there.

7:30Toss it out there into the ether? Ether. No? No, I think it's great. I think that start the work day a little late or maybe do some work beforehand. Take a little carve out and have a little social gathering. I'm very supportive of it. How are you? Let's get a fitness update with you. Well, I really like how you're carrying the energy of this episode. I feel like I'm like being very – it's like, okay, didn't know any of this was happening. So I'm just kind of like, where are we going next? Where are we going next? Oh, we've got to tell them what we're doing tonight. I Googled it. Okay. So I saw this video, and it said if you take your baby to Nordstrom, they have like a first shoe party kind of.

8:13So they take a little Polaroid photo of your baby getting their first shoes. They put it in a little red envelope. and they so I googled and I said this every Nordstrom dude says yes every Nordstrom in the USA and the great country of Canada also participate in this amazing and they measure your baby's foot and then based on their measurements they recommend shoes at the store that would best suit them it said online that they give you a free pair of shoes I don't think they do that Bubber and Shoes is going to be electric so Maria today okay so Tate's walking and she's walking like you know like she can walk like 15 20 feet she's very good and she falls because okay so but right now she's in the phase where she walks with her arms straight out and i thought she has to be a mummy for halloween but by no but by the time halloween's here she'll be she'll be using her arms better okay but a mummy like we are in the mummy phase and it would be perfect but anyways we're taking her to nordstrom to get the shoes and i just thought we're really lucky to live near nordstrom i don't even know there was one close to us well there's one at the domain okay i thought that was the name in marcus There's both there.

9:16Good for you. Okay. The domain has a lot. We have great shopping in Austin. Yeah. Okay, so yeah, we're going to take her to get shoes. Okay, so Maria, though, today she brought these things, these little pink. They're like sock-like. They go like halfway up their calves, and on the bottom they have rubber. It's like a sock shoe. Yeah. Kind of like a scuba diving material. I think it's for their grip. Yes. They are so cute. Bubba can't figure them out, though. She can't. She falls in them. they're so cute i don't know what you call them sock grippers like a rubber bottom yeah i think she'll figure it out more than a sock it's oh it's so cute when you put the the shoes on the dog do you put shoes on jenny no why not she wouldn't be able to manage it's a lot for them that's a lot should we get jules uh a gift dog shoes dog shoes for jenny she won't wear them she can bring them to Paris.

10:09Perfect. It is hard though for dogs and babies to like read to like learn with shoes. I do see. Okay. Do you want to dive into the episode on the milking? Let's hear it. Following your lead here is okay. Your journey. So the first, well, it becomes your journey at six months and you're a very important part of the equation because you're the supporting piece. Well, I guess before we get interest, who is this, who is, who do you, who is this episode for? Well, I think it's for expecting moms. Yeah. Um, I also think it's for moms in our stage, right? Yeah. That are, that have a baby that are, that are breastfeeding, that want to breastfeed, that are combo feeding, that are about to start solids, like anywhere in your feeding journey or about to start your feeding journey.

10:52I think this all applies to you. Okay. Um, and, and just even like if you want to be a mom one day or you're just curious about mom things. Yeah. If you're curious about mom things. If you're curious about what your best friend's going through, who's a new mom? Would you say life as a parent is just nonstop? 100%. You guys, mealtime especially can be a real challenge. That's why I'm so excited about our next partner. They've made serving healthy meals way easier for us and much more enjoyable for our kids. This podcast is sponsored by Nurture Life. It's 2025 guys. Are you still feeding your kids like it's 2005?

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12:48So make sure to share our code to a friend. Remember, put your little ones first with healthy meals from Nurture Life. Okay, so the first thing is the no formula mindset. Why did I decide to do breast milk? And here's the thing. I said going into it, I'm going to try breastfeeding. Remember? Yep. And before I had her, the idea of breastfeeding kind of like weirded me out. I was like, your boobs are kind of sensitive when you're pregnant. I was like, I don't know how this whole thing is going to go. And then whenever I had her, I was like, no, I like I really do want to breastfeed her and I want to try to do it.

13:24I would say I, through the course of the six months, ended up pumping a lot more than actually breastfeeding her for a lot of reasons. I could never figure out exactly how much milk she was getting. Once I fed her, then I needed to also pump after that. And that was too time consuming. So I ended up being a more of a pumper. But I did breastfeed her on flights and at night and throughout. There was a lot of times that I did do it, but I would say overwhelmingly, I liked pumping better. I found it to be way more efficient. But the reason I wanted to try to give her breast milk was simply because I knew the antibodies would help her in the early stages of life.

14:02And so I was like, you know, and listen, you guys know I love formula and I love breast milk. But my personal decision, because that's what this podcast is, is what we decided, was I want to try and do it. So I started, you know, right when you have the baby, you don't actually produce milk. You have colostrum. And they are drinking such a little amount in that hospital. I remember there were so many unknowns. And the first unknown was how the baby truly can drink for two minutes and be full max. Like maybe even a minute. And they're full. Like their stomachs are so little when they first come out.

14:38Yeah, I thought their stomachs when they come out are the size of a peanut. smaller I think I thought a pea well by the way it's very small a tiny tiny tiny tummy so they have colostrum in the first you know four or five days of life then your milk comes in and I remember the night my milk came in I thought I had the flu I was sweating and freezing and aching and I was just like and it's so wild what your body can do and then lo and behold like your body just starts producing milk and it is the craziest but coolest thing but it's crazy um okay so the first three months we had a night nurse um the night nurse we say was primarily for Harrison because what we decided to do was Harrison slept through the nights and I got up for the feeds and And the reason we did that was because during the day, whenever I was exhausted and was like, I'm going to lose my mind, he had his mind.

15:42And so dividing and conquering, I took nights and he was kind of the lead on the daytimes because I was tired. And that worked out so well for us. Because before she was there, I remember saying, you're going to wake up with me every time I wake up. And then we decided, no, no, no, that doesn't make sense because I'm going to start to lose my mind a little. I'm going to be sleep deprived. And so the best play here is for you to get a good night's sleep and then you to put the team on your back during the day. Wouldn't you say? Yeah, I think that's how it shook out. Definitely going into it, I thought that I would be up with you during the evening feeds to keep you comfortable.

16:24And obviously, like, you're caring, doing all the work and all the heavy lifting. And so taking the responsibilities over that I could was obviously the priority and what I wanted to do. And that's how it shook out. So speaking of like keeping you company, I put myself back in those first three months when you're waking up. Right. And for us, the night nurse is coming and waking me up and then I'm feeding the baby. but the alternative to that so whenever we didn't have the night nurse what i would do is i set a timer every three hours and i would wake up and i would just go in there and see and then like you know she would inevitably be hungry at the same time but the thing is you have to stay awake for 20 minutes um and feed them and i was just talking to a friend who just had a baby and she was like how did you stay awake during the night and i said well a lot of times i would have the night nurse sit on the floor and talk to me.

17:21But then, you know, she, she couldn't do that all the time. And I remember I would be sitting in bed nodding off and she said, well, I've heard it's not good to sit in bed. And I said, Oh, that would make a lot of sense. Like put a chair in your room and get out of bed and feed them. So you're a little bit more awake. And then she said, I'm going to listen to an audio book. So one thing I would be interested to hear from the listeners is how they stay awake during the night feeds. Cause for me, honestly, well, no, remember what happened for a little bit for me yeah I fell into scrolling so I am so religious about not looking at my phone before or after bedtime much less if I wake up in the middle of the night but I would in order to stay awake I started scrolling on Instagram and TikTok in the middle of the night you guys I couldn't go back to bed and my mental health was just like tanking like it is just so bad for you so I would really recommend against that remember I told you I was like I just admit it i was like i'm just starting to scroll yeah well i mean it's it's a it's a crazy amount of of workload and responsibility to carry and so you know i understand doing whatever kills the time best and it would kill it fast i'll tell you that that was what was so crazy about it it would fly by yeah i i really understand why people like why that's what a lot of people would do and want to do yeah you know one thing we didn't talk about you're planking oh my gosh thank you for that so somebody told me um in order to avoid clogged ducts if you lean over and pump then the it gravity pulls it out right so you don't clog your ducts as much and I thought I also wasn't working out so I was like I'll just start planking so what I would do in the middle of the night.

19:11I remember I would do three, no, one minute on one minute off for five sessions. So 10 minutes total of planking. I really want to pull up the nanop monitor and, and get the old footage of you pumping and planking. That was a, Oh my gosh. I, you know, I think back to the newborn phase and it's really such a blur. Like looking up pumpkin patches. I was like, we went to haul these pumpkin patches. I don't remember them really. It's like so wild. Totally. So now let's move on to month three to six. Anything we missed there? How would you recap months zero to three? A blur. I'm still waking up every three hours in the middle of the night to pump or to feed her.

19:55So you're sleep deprived and you're putting a lot of pressure on yourself. Like you have to stay in and around the house. here here's what happened a lot from month zero to three is you know i would be taking a nap or something and tate would get hungry and so then like you have to be nearby like in order to feed her so they're not they're not necessarily on this very rigid three hour eating pattern sometimes it's two hours sometimes it's one hour sometimes they're cluster feeding and like you being the sole source of milk it was a lot of pressure and it was really hard on me it was it was stunning to see what like just how much added work you uh you took on just and obviously something that I think neither of us expected um well there's a honeymoon phase with it for the first month where you're like I got this and then month two hits and you think I really can't go anywhere I remember being at the proper hotel and we were meeting and I had to go, no, somebody texted me.

21:00Maybe it was your mom texted me and was like, you know, she's out of milk. And I had to go to the bathroom. I had to pump it and I had to Uber it to her. And I just, I remember just sitting in the bathroom and I just wanted to start crying and I wanted to scream. I think that this brings a pretty logical next question, which is for future babies, will you do anything different month, zero to three to take that pressure off? Because it feels like, you know, that was a lot of pressure to put on yourself and it took a massive toll. So what, what would you do differently? If anything? Yeah, it was a ton of pressure.

21:35Um, what I would do differently with, with the next babies is an 80, 20 or a 90, 10. So for example, when we went to that hockey game, Yeah. Yes. To some extent, you need to drain your boobs because it's uncomfortable. So that's one case for needing to pump out in public. Yeah. You know, or breastfeed out in public. But also you're doing it because the baby has to have the food. I would take formula. I would do 80, 90 percent breast milk. The other 10, 20 percent formula weddings. you know we were at a wedding and I'm in the bathroom pumping like you know you're lugging your pump stuff I wouldn't I wouldn't put so much pressure on myself for it to be a hundred percent breast milk um because when we got to the six month mark and I ended up doing starting to combo feed I felt I felt like I got a little bit of my freedom back yeah I noticed a massive shift in um um in your mindset and just the general toll when you started combo feeding like the pressure of um and i i'd be curious like why did you stick with it for like for those six months because looking you know as we're having this conversation logically it's like well why why didn't you just go 90 10 80 20 70 30 or whatever you chose well i think one like if you know me right i think some of my friends listening to this would be like doesn't like if I set a goal I kind of it's why I say I'll never I'll never say I'll train for a marathon yeah because then I'll I will truly figure out how to like run 50 miles you know and I'll be like obsessed with my time and my diet like I'm a bit all or nothing yeah so that's probably one token of it but the other token of it was I just saw like a healthy happy baby and I just was like I'm not going to change anything It was almost like superstitious or something.

23:29And in reality, the moment we incorporated formula, nothing changed. Nothing changed. Not one thing changed. Except your life. Except me. And I sit on here all the time and I preach like formula is great. Formula has come such a long way. Like Bobby Byhart, like phenomenal. Hopefully keeps improving. Only keeps improving. And the fed baby I think is a happy baby. but for me I just I was doing the breast milk thing and I set my goal and I wanted to keep it and you know what I'm proud of myself for doing it I think it's cool that I can say you know just for me that I did but no I'm not going to do it like that again yeah I'm proud of you as well in so many different lights thank you fall is planting season did you know that many plants and trees actually do better when planted this time of year but you have to know where to start that's why I love fast growing trees.com doesn't matter if you live in the sunny south or if the air is getting chilly where you are.

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25:37Ooh, DMER. DMER, which is when your milk, so the mental health side of the breastfeeding, when your milk drops, you also like your serotonin depletes and you get angry or you get sad for a little bit of time. For me, it was like one to two minutes. And the thought of putting on this breast pump is daunting. And for me, it was sometimes it was sadness, sometimes it was anger. And I was just like, I can't do this. And a lot of women have Deemer, but some people, some women have Deemer, like they have, they've had four kids and they said I had Deemer with one, but not the other three. So it's just something to look out for.

26:13But the deemer for me lifted at three months. And that's why I was able to keep going to the six months because it felt a lot easier. Like I was like, well, this isn't that bad because then it was just a job, right? It's like going to the kitchen to eat. At that point, it was like, put on the pump. Well, I would do both at the same time. I would make my meal, put the pump on and then eat for 20 minutes and pump. And it was kind of a nice routine. Now let's get to six months. Okay. So at six months we start a combo feeding a great day. And everyone asks me, how do I combo feed? I mean, these moms, you guys are like, so is it tactical?

26:49The right word? They're great. They're like asking me this real questions. And I don't think I like, I never really thought about some of them. So a lot of them is like, how do you combo feed? I would usually do if I had breast milk, I used it immediately. So if I had six ounces of breast milk, but she needed an eight ounce bottle, I would use the six ounces of breast milk and I would add in the formula. So my mindset was never save breast milk for another day. So I always used it. So sometimes, you know, if I wasn't home a lot, she would have a lot more formula than others. Well, I found what happened often when we froze it, because like there was that period where we did do some freezing, unfreezing it and taking it out of those small plastic bags and pouring it into the bottle, there was often a ton of leakage.

27:34Yeah. And so like you'd be losing milk. It also like you kind of it may get a little lost in the freezer. You forget about it. Funny enough, we do have like four bags of milk in the freezer. I know. I'm saving it if she gets sick. Okay. I knew you knew that. Yeah. No, I know exactly. There are four. Yes. Okay. But I and they're four ounces. But I. You know what's also in the freezer? My placenta. Her placenta. My placenta is still in the freezer. It's been a year. If someone told us to keep this placenta, I have no idea why. What are we supposed to do with this placenta, please? We're supposed to, we're going to plant a tree and we're going to fertilize it with the placenta.

28:07Okay. From fastgrowingtrees.com. Fastgrowingtrees.com, which by the way, we got those. They're awesome. I love those plants. So we could plant, we could get a fastgrowingtrees.com tree, plant it, fertilize it with my placenta and call it the bubber tree. Okay. Love it. I mean, that's great. That is exciting. I don't know how. We do need to look up how do you use it as a fertilizer, but we'll figure it out. Yeah, I feel like there was some... Yeah, I don't know. I feel like we consistently heard to keep this thing and it takes up a lot of room in the freezer. Yeah, it's like a rack of ribs times two.

28:42Very gross. I take that back. Okay, let's go. So at six months, we start combo feeding, praise be, and we start incorporating solids. solids the way we did it was she ate what we ate no not initially no initially you know what we started her with those serenity food packets we loved the packets out of the gates yeah the packets because they because we were so scared yeah because she needs to they needed to learn how to chew um and you're i know they're not chewing the packets but that food can go in their mouth and then they swallow it yeah i thought they They were a really good way for her to understand the basics of eating.

29:24Uh-huh. And she liked them a lot. And they were really clean labels. Really clean labels. And then, so one thing somebody asked me the other day, which was like, do you care what you feed your kid? And I was just like, yes, I do. I'm not super crunchy in a lot of ways, but when it comes to this food, I'm like, I really do care. and I'm kind of like unapologetic about caring because I thought about me. When I eat like crap, I feel like crap. And I have like a lot larger system to digest. And they just have these little systems. And I think food can really affect these kids pretty drastically. And so I don't know where like we started associating Cheetos with kids, you know, as opposed to like give them some carrots.

30:12Like right now she doesn't know. Potatoes. She doesn't know all these foods exist, all these flavors exist. Like she eats what we give her and she loves it. She loves cottage cheese. She loves chicken. She loves steak. She loves potatoes. She loves sweet potatoes. Even like canned green beans. Cheese. And so I really, so when it comes to that, like, yeah, I do care what she eats. Whole foods cooked. Listen, there's going to be a day where she gets a lot more picky and we're going to navigate that. But for right now, it's like, yeah, I definitely care what goes in her body. It's also it's been a fun way to bond with her.

30:50And also, like, obviously, as the guy during the breastfeeding cycle, you're on the sidelines, obviously doing whatever you can to support. But like you just you are you are not doing any form of the real the real work and the real heavy lifting. And so that was one component that I was really excited to take over was the food. Yeah, and you really stepped up when it came to the food. And, like, you loved it. And you cook for her. You made her bone marrow. Still do. Bone marrow, fish. And we did the allergies. And we did, you know, and we had a lot of fun with it. It was also, I remember, though, I do want to say this because if somebody's about to approach this phase, the first three weeks aren't that fun.

31:33Remember, like, she doesn't understand how to get food in her mouth. And they don't have that reflex yet where they can pinch things. So you have to feed them long, skinny items. Because they don't have the pincher yet. They just have the full grasp, remember? Yeah, but that's where we really stuck to those Serenity food packets. Yeah, the Serenity food packets were great. They are a clean label and they're easy. If you don't have time to food prep, we would take them with us. Yeah, because making that. And then I think when we started making the food was when she could start eating the food that we could eat.