Millennial dads, UK's under-16s social media ban & are Gen Z employees actually lazy?!

33:40They buy the chicken for a dollar. They sell it for$150. It's just, it's the P &L of like the profit or loss of the specific restaurant, not including corporate overhead. So when you just look at the restaurants, how profitable are those restaurants? Okay. Not including corporate overhead. And right now, the restaurant level margins at Sweetgreen are significantly lower than Cava. Meaning it costs the Sweetgreen less to operate. Meaning Sweetgreen is making much less per restaurant. Than a Cava is. On a percentage basis than Cava is. Is that because Sweetgreen cares about where their food comes from?

34:19But in theory, that gap should close assuming they can get foot traffic back up, same store sales growing again, et cetera, et cetera. So it's all kind of tight. Which is where the fries and the wrap came in. Which is where the wraps would have came in. Because as same store sales growths accelerate, then your restaurant level margin should also improve. It should close the gap of Cava. And then, boom, the stock start, in theory, would start humming. So you thought that the wraps were going to do that and they haven't. Where'd the fries go? The fries. Was that a test? The fries were a test that I believe were shut down.

34:57The fries were good. I haven't had them. None of this financial advice. the fries were excellent but the same thing though if you got the fries with the salad then your lunch is over a thousand calories that was why i never had the fries so good but yeah i get that it's funny it sucks last point okay i get what they were doing with like the high quality ingredients but i just we can't forget that people care about calories right it's like the most basic form of assessing especially for lunch like totally your lunch meal isn't a thousand dollar meal and i think they could have made it i think they could have got it 750 yeah oh i'm sure they could have well they would they just would have made it smaller yeah love sweet green hope that they can make some tweaks to it i love sweet green too i hope i can go back oh yeah i just minor improvements to the wrap make it a little smaller i might get a wrap with the ingredients this is making me want to try one i would be i don't know why why haven't i had one i don't know i just haven't had one i'm really into their bowls right now um all right let's let's go to

36:13hmm well i have hmm i had a question that i did want to ask people and so did harrison where did my question go have we talked about how bubbers learned how to cuddle yes yes okay all right this was my we got a cuddle this morning this was my question okay i want to know people's flight stories on flights they've missed doing something stupid like one time i was at the airport i was there two hours early i was like traveling by myself i was i was boarding the flight i was boarding a flight to i think california and i got in line and and like scanned my boarding pass to go to a houston flight and they're like burp you know like like no and then i looked at the guy and he was like oh my gosh you're that gate and it had just finished boarding yeah and i was like oh my God, I missed the flight because I was in the wrong, like I was boarding the wrong plane.

36:59And of course, like I had my headphones in. I was just like, la-di-da-di-da-di. I thought I had all the time in the world, so I wasn't focused. And I missed the flight. Like I was at the airport. So that was a really frustrating flight miss. And the reason I bring it up is because somebody said, if you're not missing 10 % of your flights, you're doing it wrong. Like you're not living, you're not flying close enough to the sun, as you say. So I have a couple of things here. It was said by this guy on TBPN. Okay. Okay. Do you know what TVPN is? No, I have no idea. Do you know what this is, Jules?

37:30Yeah, it's a podcast that was bought by... By ChatGPT. ChatGPT. Okay, cool. So it's like a daily live show that is very heavily focused on Twitter. Okay. And it's like the new age CNBC. Love it. And so it's these two guys and they just like... Like throughout the day, they just had different entrepreneurs coming on, investors coming on. they've done a really good job and they sold it to Chad Gwetee for a heap of money. Should we be watching it? How do you watch it? I think where you get your podcasts. You just watch it on Twitter. Oh, so you can only watch it on Twitter? No, it's on all platforms.

38:06No, I think it's just a podcast. But it's live? Oh, I don't know. It's like, where am I going to get it live? Is it going on right now? I think they live do it on Twitter. Maybe go on X. And like, what info am I getting? I'm getting, am I getting current events or am I getting... Like, I'm sure they talked a lot about the SpaceX IPO over the past week. Okay. Yeah. So it's educational content. But it's very, like, tech-heavy, markets-heavy. Oh. Very venture-heavy. Okay. If you care about, like, tech bro stuff, it's a really good show. Okay, well... If you don't care about tech bro stuff, it would be kind of very boring.

38:41Okay, so never mind. Maybe I won't look it up. I'm not going to look it up. All right, so he says if you're not missing 10 % of your flights... Yeah. You're wasting time.

38:55So he wants us to miss 10 % of our flights. Because if you're like getting there so early. You're spending too much time at the airport if you're not missing 10 % of your flights. I agree with him. Me as well. Yeah. Let's. I. It's so funny you guys agree because I thought this was a great example of like when you have a mic in your face. for hours upon hours a week. Sometimes you say stuff that you don't mean because you just need to talk. Okay? Yeah. I unfortunately understand that feeling now being in this world. Yeah. And so I was like, oh, this is a great example of a take that this guy doesn't mean.

39:35He doesn't mean this. But like someone asked him about it. And so he felt like he just shot something from the hip. When he initially processed it, he thought it would, he stood by it but when it came out of his mouth he completely immediately regretted it but it was too late and he like defended it but i guess not maybe he actually believes this if you guys believe it i think it's a horrible take what i don't want to miss any flights but i also don't want to be at the airport long enough to like almost not miss my flight i think yeah i think that i take you know let's call it two plus flights a month minimum.

40:13Okay. So we'll say I've taken 500 flights in my life. I'm pretty comfortable and confident with that number. How many flights do you think I've missed? I don't know. Jules? Ten. Yeah, five. One. Okay. Who do you think I was with when I missed that flight? Me. Okay. couldn't because i've missed a flight with you so i know that couldn't believe it missing flights is a no-no the the the cost of missing the flight is so much greater than the cost of being at the airport early i find getting to the airport early is a lovely experience you go you find a seat you sit down and you rip some some work on your laptop or just zonk out and listen to a podcast maybe podcast with two parents maybe read a sub stack who knows i just think this though so what it's odd it's odd that your number is one in 500 flights is that you've missed because i have seen you get to the airport and truly like sprint on i mean you don't get there with a leisurely amount of time sometimes you do but a lot of times it's like you're trying to get the kids out the door i mean it's 40 minutes i arrived to the airport 40 minutes before my flight i just don't take off for boarding takeoff maybe an hour if it's an important flight an hour other people get to the airport like two hours before they board yeah p so i think i think the reasonable time to get to the airport before your departure time is one hour assuming you're not checking bags that's as low stress as it can be yeah i i just checking bags is a disaster It's a disaster.

42:05I hate it. I agree with that. It is a disaster. It throws everything I just said out the window. But I am with this guy, though. Live a little more and miss a couple flights. Only a couple. One a year. You're allowed to miss one a year. One every two years. You didn't make it in time. John Coogan, I think, is the guy's name. I do agree with this, though. It's highly inconvenient to miss the flight. It is very inconvenient to miss the flight. I mean, horribly. everything yeah that part i'm full i'm full anti-miss flights i mean i'm with you on i'm fully so in theory i'm fully anti-miss flights however me personality wise like i'm just i just have to accept in life i'm gonna miss some flights i'm gonna time it wrong traffic's gonna get in the way security is gonna be longer and like i'm just gonna miss some flights and what i don't have harrison that you do have is like if i get to a security line and it is so long i do not have the guts to walk up to the front and say like can I go yeah I'd 100 % ask the people picker of the week there we go if if your flight is taking off in five minutes or boarding in five minutes and the security line is so long are you allowed to walk up to the front and say hey if you don't have nope I gotta clarify I would never walk up to the front okay what would you say I would go one by one okay and ask the people I would take out my boarding pass which showed my departure time Okay, so let's say departure time is, it says gate close at 3.50 and it's 3.42.

43:36I would say, hey, my gate closes in eight minutes. Can I please pass you? Hey, my gate closes in eight minutes. Can I please pass you? I keep my phone out the entire time. Okay, because your point here is it's none of their faults that you're late. It's only your fault. It's only my fault. And I think that there's a mutual understanding of like when you do cut it too close. and if someone did that to me, then... And you had time, you'd say, yeah, go ahead. Absolutely. And if someone said, hey, I'm on the same flight, I'd say, come on with me. And I'd partner up and we'd do it together. Okay, you won me on that one.

44:12I was going to say, you cannot walk up to the front and say, can I skip everybody? No, I do agree on this one by one. You cannot walk to the front. You need permission of every single person in the line. And what if you get stuck behind somebody that says, no, you can't go in front of me, you're getting in line behind them? That's just not how it works. Yeah, the rest of the line starts to rally behind you then. Yeah. Like one person's not going to say you can't go because the rest of the line just let you go and they'll be like, let him go. Good, I like that. I would be very vocal in that situation.

44:42This is a Curb Your Enthusiasm episode. I would be very vocal if somebody said no. I'd be like, we're going to let him go. We're going to let him go. And then everyone like cheers when he gets through. It's the whole thing. And that's where humanity comes to win. Especially, okay, so on the dad that went to the bathroom, Two updates, two updates. What? You're going to do the first update. I have a new update for the both of you. Okay, great. Okay, so, sorry. Did we talk about the dad yet on here? Yes. Yes. Okay. So the dad, we did, sorry. Everything's running together this week. If I made the TikTok about it or if we talked about it on here.

45:15The dad that took his two daughters into the bathroom and the guy came in and videoed him, if you haven't seen it, that's what we're talking about. The update is the guy that called the cops, he was fined. Which I love. For misuse of police resources. And that wasn't misuse of police resources. That was just a guy being mean to a sweet dad who stayed so calm and collected. I also saw that he was fired from his job. Which I feel like did we just take things too far as a society? We did. Why are we firing from his job? What was his job? He was wearing the contact with the public. okay so he was wearing the company shirt people were contacting the company that i'm very upset about that that just feel like we just like overswing things because like there's bad decision and there's being accountable for your bad decision and then there's should that bad decision blow up your whole life and and the answer you know feels no like like the punishment for the crime is the fine of misusing police resources that's not a fireable offense and the internet being very mad at you that's the but now knowing the internet is the internet gonna now rally behind him and get him a job no okay here's okay so here's where here's where my brain's gonna go number one i'm assuming that this guy just runs a little hot headed and a little just a little angry like yesterday i i was parked at there's this spot outside of our favorite coffee shop that says no parking we park in it one of us stays in the car one of us goes in and gets the coffee this girl she was like our age she was like honking pointing at the sign and i was just like girl we're good i park here a lot you can't like i'm not affecting you driving at all whatsoever like you're just randomly mad at me parking on in this spot that to me and i just was like no big deal unacceptable so just like not necessary and i just walked in the coffee shop and kind of laughed at myself and thought she's so much more mad than i am today and this guy in the video with the kids in the bathroom calling the cops on the dad he's just more mad than most people right but he to me seemed mad because like life had beaten him up or something like he just was a different level of angry where i was like you're but this that's only this is only gonna make that worse now what no no i know but i don't know that it's gonna make it worse or is he gonna say like everyone everyone is against me maybe i could be a little less angry yeah maybe he'll change his lease on life yeah i'm thinking he's gonna do some changing here i think that that one common theme that has come up and whether it be amanda batula or others is some people they think life happens to them yeah and some people go and make life happen no life either happens to you or for you or for you thank you and and um feels like with amanda life happens to her and it feels like we know a lot you know someone just came up the other day and it's like at what point do they realize it's their fault right right at what point do they realize like that they're the problem and what you said is you're like that a person's never going to realize they're the problem.

48:43Some people are never going to realize it. Amanda has a lot of opportunity in front of her right now to make her life happen for her. Still. Still till this day she does. Lindsay gave her the opportunity in the city. She could take the bull by the horns and go make life still happen for her, and I hope she does. But this guy on the phone, I hope. I hate that he got fired. I hate it. I hate he got fired. But he can say this is happening to me or for me, and he can change. Turn it around. And maybe his kids think he's angry too. I want to see this guy. I do want to see this guy. Like maybe his kids think he's angry too.

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50:28And try the new Twist My Parm cups online at Goodles.com. and you can pick up so many of their products in the store nationwide at Target and Walmart plus many other grocery stores and retailers. Now we're going to discuss. What are we going to discuss? Well, we wanted to do, there's a couple things on here. All right. Get my coffee going now. Tweet of the week. Okay. Give us a little spin. Get a little ice action. Tweet of the week. Dads are helping out more at home modern dads are helping out more at home married dads of young children in 1965 did on average less than 10 hours of things around the house and child care now today in 2024 dads contributed nearly 30 hours a week of helping out around the house and child care what do you think about this i didn't read this before that's too low i agree how many hours are there in a week well it's a 40 hour work week it's it's 10 hours a week of help around the house and child care and child care up to 30 yes it was 10 hours and now it's 30 hours yeah but assuming that the child is gone from eight to five at daycare school then you're running five you're essentially running two hours in the morning three hours before bedtime so five hours a day so 25 hours you basically have 25 hours a week of no child care time no i'm just saying monday to friday and then let's call it 10 hours so there's only 45 hours 10 hours a day on saturday and sunday when you include naps so you know you're only talking about 45 50 hours of total child care a week not including school unless they're a newborn then they're home the whole time But I'm just giving like directional numbers.

52:24Okay. Okay. So what do you think about this? What do you think about it? Well, where did my notes go that I wrote? They're in there. I think that... Scroll down a bit to the millennial dad. I think you hear all about how the millennial dad is more involved today than... um then dads of of past generations and they call it the millennial dad movement and so when you see firm data points like this you know it always helps put uh put those differences into into context and makes make sense to me i think that on the other end though there's like a unique phenomenon that while dads are more engaged as ever at home there's less dads than there's ever been as uh birth rates are now at at close to all-time lows in in the u.s and so i do think like what is good to see is those dads that are either making the decision to be fathers or um are lucky enough to to have children they're really really leaning into it so they're not taking like they're not taking it for granted i agree i really agree with that and i think more flexible work schedules are allowing that to happen which i think is a result of covid which is cool but here's what i'm gonna say okay what are you gonna say i'm gonna say i'm gonna caveat i'm gonna disclaimer this with with women still birth the child you still got to bring us flowers bring me my pumps all these things okay because like we we make these babies and that is credit where credits too that is hard work but mom has the mental load and we talk a lot about the mental load on mom okay now they're saying for dad it's called the invisible load and that is you guys are trying to strike this balance these days the millennial dad has the has this invisible load which is you don't want to miss out at home you do want to be involved in your kid's life, but you also still in 2026 today, most of the time carry the financial burden and you have fear of failing your families and a little bit of an identity crisis in terms of like, am I all dad or am I the caretaker?

54:48Because back in the day, it used to be dad would go to work. Now we've got more dads that are more involved. And so I do see this invisible load that goes on in these dads' heads, which I think is a really valid thing. yeah i think the flip side to that though is like at every stage in life you're taking on more responsibility and you know going from high school to college and college to your first job and your first job to being a real um a real income generator to getting married and having kids and whenever you make one of those pivotal transitions, like the ball is inherently in your court to rise to the occasion or not.

55:33Like each one of those transitions comes with more responsibility. And so I feel like being a father is very much a continuation of the responsibilities that you've taken on from your previous experiences. So I agree with that. And I think one thing about you that you've learned through learned experiences like Hong Kong, you know, you left investment making and started your own company, etc. So I think you take these moments in stride. And I think the older you get, the more actually life will behoove you. OK, but I do think that so it's hard sometimes for me to present something to you that I think a lot of people deal with that you don't necessarily.

56:14Which is a good thing. It's amazing. But I do think the invisible load is a real thing. Yes, and I know it's a, I feel it, don't get me wrong, but what I'm saying here is like the same way I think you, you know, going back many years, like you look at college and say, hey, things are about to change. I'm about to take on a lot more responsibility. I'm going to have a lot more freedom and independence. I'm going to have a lot more choices thrown at me. Like, how am I going to handle this? Am I going to take that opportunity and rise to the occasion?

56:46or am I going to stay on my current path and not change and underperform? And I just feel like that needs to be the outlook and approach to fatherhood of, hey, my days are about to get a lot more busy. Yeah. Okay, I'm going to lose a lot of alone time. I have two options. I can fight it and drag my feet or I can go into it with the mindset of I'm going to absolutely own the moment in front of me. But that's what I love about you. And I spoke to this the last episode of like 2026. You even said like, I'm going to own child number two. I'm going to get my health in order before he comes. And you did.

57:25And now you're owning another sector. Yeah, I guess like I think that to me, this is very much just part of life and taking an offensive approach to life versus a defensive approach to life. And yeah, I don't know. But I do see... Like, versus the woman, where you guys are dealing with forces that we just, like, don't have. A la the physical toll of birth, the emotional, hormonal component. So, like... Good job, Harrison. We do need to discuss it. To me, that's, I guess, the point that I didn't land the plane on. Like, it is a core black and white difference. I agree with that. I totally agree.

58:10that's why i said before this like we still birth the child right like the mental load also has a component to it that's the physical load right where and then also you have the hormonal load that women deal with okay so i'm and we need we need guys to understand this i'm really glad you said that so thank you but with all of that being true and let's put it on the top of the chart okay there is still the invisible load that dads do like that doesn't mean you guys don't deal with it and i do and i think the most real part of this which is really interesting to me is this, and women are actually dealing with it too, as more as we now, like I was at happy hour last night and all of the girls I was with, like have a company, like they are the boss.

58:50And that was really cool. So we do have more working moms, which is awesome. You know, who are also dealing with now making money and being a caretaker, which is, is the reverse of what I'm saying in this, in this invisible load for dads, but you guys very much. So you want to be involved. You want to go get Bubber. You want to take her for the coffee shops. You want to take her to dance class, like do all these things. But also you want to still be the guy that goes and has the job and makes the money. I think that's a really real thing. For sure. But it's also part of life. Yeah. It's also, it's life.

59:28So you're kind of not buying the invisible load. No, I'm buying it. I really am buying it, but I'm... You're saying rise to the occasion with confidence. I'm saying like rise to the occasion with confidence. And the confidence part I think goes into like owning being a dad, owning that you want to be there for those moments, owning that you want to do swim. Our swim lessons are awesome. It's mainly dads in the pool. Yeah. And like owning like life, your plate is going to be a lot more full than it used to be. And don't fight that. And I think too, the more we see this, the more dads step up and do it, then the more dads will feel permission to do it and want to do it.

1:00:08I like that convo a lot. Great. Yeah, that was, I thought that you brought some really good points. But I just want the men to feel validated in their loads too. Now, but I, now I'm going to take us. I think I just like. Oh, yeah, but where I just like, I kind of got to push it. It's like, this is a, I think a time of like no excuses and go out and kick ass. But I like hearing you say that. Yeah. And like this isn't your time to. Good age. Good. This is like this is the time where as a father you need to create stability and a very strong foundation for the family. This is literally why I love you.

1:00:51And there's just a difference of like being aware of it and then using it as an excuse. Totally. You're aware of it and using it to drive you versus like being aware of something and then using it as an excuse. Yes. It's life happening to you or for you, actually. It is that theme. And I do think we're allowed to have weakness. Of course you are. I just think in these early years - Get it together. You're not. You are, but no, you - I just, I don't think you are. I think you need to be as mentally strong as, yeah, you need to be as mentally strong as you can fathom over the first three years of a child's life.

1:01:30For your family. for your family and thank you because you do a really good job at that you really do especially like through the birth and through like you know you're like as because you're doing so much and you're doing your part yeah i mean it is crazy like i'm making the milk feeding the baby harrison is carrying us through it does it's it's quite beautiful to see it both I have a question. Okay. I remember when I got my first job on Wall Street, all the older people, what's the generation above us? Gen X, I believe. The Gen Xers talking about how lazy millennials were. You millennials, you're so entitled and you don't work hard.

1:02:18Yep, yep. And earlier in this episode, and it all kind of ties back to that conversation we just had, Jules is talking about Gen Z and then there's the reference about how Gen Z doesn't work and Gen Z's lazy and Gen Z isn't entitled. So do we just live in this world where the older generation is just consistently saying that the younger generation is lazy and entitled? So phenomenal point. Do you know what I think it is now? Let's hear it. I think in your 20s, like, yeah, you're just you don't working as hard. yeah and like i mean covid just i'm sorry but the people that weren't like in the working world before covid sorry p it's your your work ethic is so different true so different like we had to go to the office every single day at 8 a.m work the entire day in front of people no jules it was all All day, every day.

1:03:13Yeah, all day, every day. And you never left at five. You didn't leave at five. I'm so glad. You worked the whole time. So while I believe that the workplace is incredibly more efficient when you have an IRL presence, okay, I think that running a standard eight to five with no work from home flexibility is insane. But it is what every company was doing. It's what we all did right out of college. It was ridiculous. And the amount of time that I would spend twiddling my thumbs at my desk. Yeah. There were hours upon hours a week where I didn't need to be there. And you're unproductive. And then you end up building resentment towards the workplace.

1:03:58First, like be in be in the office, work hard in the office and get out. And like the ability to work from home on Fridays and go do long weekends like that makes life so much more fun. It makes life so much more fun. But what the workplace also did teach you though was what are other people doing? Like, okay, that's a working style that they have. Like I can adopt something from that. When we do lose that, there's pros and cons to both sides. But I'm not saying that – it's so funny. Like when – what are you going to say, Jules? Sorry, keep going. it's just like we've come totally full circle that like when covid hit and there's the whole like remote work is the future and this is the way it should be and now we've come around and it's like you got to be in office and i hope we don't swing back to the core monday to friday eight to five i don't think we will you're starting to see companies push yeah in a big way but i think that's the mistake work from home is the best yeah because on one end You want the hybrid.

1:05:06We wouldn't be able to do three episodes a week. I don't think that if we look at this situation here, I don't think we could do three episodes a week if there wasn't a central place for you guys to be working. Yeah, but this is so much different than like being forced to go into your office from 8 to 5 p.m. That's what I'm saying. So when you're there, like Monday, Wednesday, Fridays, I see the value be here. or Tuesday, Thursdays. Do you need to be here? Tuesdays, please. Pardon? Tuesdays, please. This is an incomparable to... Yeah, no. Like, it's just not comparable. It's not close. So ignore that.

1:05:46Ignore that last piece. Like, coming to this office, like, in our sweats, like, running to Whole Foods if you want, like, it's not close. What's not close? To, like, actually working. To what it was like if you went to a corporate job like the two jobs that I refer to before COVID where I had to go in every day and it was eight to five they were still like working for Jennifer while we worked really long hours while we were in the office every day that still wasn't even corporate and then when I worked for the place I did out in Orange County like a little more formal but still less like you probably had the most uh both of you probably had way far more corporate jobs than I did and I'm still saying even mine this is way more lax you know I like worked for software companies where that that's even fake as compared to going to work on wall street like in finance it was so intense yeah like my jobs were intense but it's like software so then they're trying to like i don't know give you lunch or something right right like give you a massage chair i remember like like covid changed everything like taking like you know a 4 p.m flight on a friday would be like the most risky thing ever.

1:06:56I can't leave the office at two. Like nothing is happening. But everyone's mindset up until that time was like, you have to be there till five. You have to. If you take off, you have to take a PTO. Like it was, we were just so process oriented. What's the point we're making here, right? We're kind of rambling. So the point, and I'll tell you the point I'm making. Point I'm making is I believe in, is I love and believe that the future of work is hybrid. where you have a very, very strong in-office presence, but you have a lot of flexibility to it. And when people want to work from home, they can work from home, but they're spending more time in the office than they are at home.

1:07:35And so call it, if it's a 70-30 split, an 8-20 split, whatever that is directionally, great. But I don't think 100-0 is good in either way. I agree with this, but your initial question was, do we just always think the generation below us doesn't work hard? Look at that. so i think and i think the answer is probably yes to that but i'm saying like there is a large discrepancy between like that's why there's such a big discrepancy between gen z and millennials is because of covid and i'm sure that there's maybe an inciting instance but gen x thought and my point is gen x felt the same way about us remember when gen x hated the millennials they're like they're gonna run the world but millennials are the hardest workers now we are but Jules that wasn't it that wasn't it but that wasn't always the case and so I'm gonna come out officially and for my support of Gen Z and I think Gen Z are gonna be unbelievable workers and like I wouldn't assume P was Gen Z I'm not a normal I would have thought you were a millennial you don't like miss deadlines do are there people that miss deadlines like yeah yes I've noticed nothing they would not work there anymore I've noticed nothing about P's workload or work ethic that would tie to her generation.

1:08:57Well, you have to tell me the stereotype of the generation. Well, the generation, we're saying that Gen Z is lazy and entitled. What's the harshest stereotype on them? That's what everyone said about millennials. That's what I'm saying. Everyone said millennials were so entitled. Does anyone remember this? And I think that everyone is going to come around. And I think that P is just like more mature than her age. P is mature for her age. She is. She is. You are mature for your age. If other people amongst P's age are so-called lazy and entitled, I think in a few years they won't be. The same way that's what they said about us.

1:09:29Well, we don't know until we see them in their 30s. I feel like our generation is so pretty entitled. We're just not lazy anymore. We just have to see. We're very entitled. We have to see us in their 30s. that's when we start to understand the generation. That's my point. Once you're like a full-fledged adult. Yeah, you're a full-fledged adult and then we got to see the finished product. In your 20s, you want to socialize and drink and have fun and travel and like try things. It's like they say, it's easy to hate from outside the club. Yeah. Should we go back and be Gen Zs? No, you guys are not Gen Zs.

1:10:00Oh my God. Can we do a Gen Z episode next week where we dress like Gen Z and we talk like Gen Z? You do dress like Gen Z for the most part. Do I dress like Gen Z? This ridiculous outfit I'm wearing? No, but yeah. We're pretty cool. Yeah, you're just millennials. This is a great example. Jules is like, we are for sure. Jules never likes to let us not be millennials. This is a great example of something like where you have the mic in front of you and talking, and then you have no idea if you're going to agree with what came out of your mouth the next day. Well, I think we will. I want to do one more thing before we wrap because I know we're getting close.

1:10:35the UK banned social media for people that are under 16 years old. Fabulous. Incredible. What do you think? Now, here's the thing, though. They're really going to have to enforce it because what we're learning is like 70 % of the kids under 16 still currently in the UK have social media on their phones. It's not going to it's not a household accountability thing. Like it's not it doesn't boil down to the parents saying you can't have it. It boils down to the tech platforms themselves. TikTok, Instagram. They can't let them have social media anymore. So we're going to have to see them figure out how to regulate this.

1:11:05Yeah. Phenomenal first step, though. Yes. Phenomenal first step because now you have the line in the sand on where the responsibility sits. Yes. Right. And as you mentioned, the responsibility sits with the tech companies, with the social media platforms that they need to be putting the pieces in place to prevent children under 16 from being on their platforms. And I think it's going to be like a clear situation at the airport where they do eye recognition and then they say okay this is alex and we know your age like i think they're gonna have to get to that because not everyone has an id not everyone has a passport but we all do have the eyes and the fingerprints i didn't think about that that's i think we're gonna have to do it basically facial scanning to to verify age and we can do that because your phone scans your face yeah i'm i'm not sure what it'll be i know there's a whole bunch of tools out there that that help and do age verification.

1:11:57Like just entering your age is clearly not on, like in your birth date is clearly not going to be enough because that's way too easy of a workaround. But it's great to see that we're making moves in the right direction to protect kids from the harms of social media at such young vulnerable ages. I hope they don't just do scroll and enter your birthday. The reason why they won't, and inherently it's going to improve over time is because financially it's going to cost them too much money if they don't make the change because they'll open themselves up to a variety of lawsuits if they're not doing their role in enforcing the law.

1:12:44So let's say, I hope this doesn't happen, but a kid gets bullied online and something bad happens and they were 14 years old and their parents say, I'm going to sue TikTok. but can't tiktok come back and say we had them into their age they lied or no well i i think that that's where it goes to the courts and the courts say the court will probably want to set an example did you do did the company do enough to prevent them from being on social media and and my instinct is in a situation like that they're going to lose i believe there was just a case where a woman won a very large settlement from Instagram that talked about Instagram's role and in her in her life trauma and I and I think YouTube also had to make a big payment yeah I think that I think there will be a judge out there that will say I'm gonna hold these I'm gonna hold these platforms accountable because they have the money to do it and they have the resources to to do it and that they have the tech to do it.

1:13:47And it tells everything you need to know is that all the founders of these companies, like they keep their kids off of social media. And so what does that tell you, right? Totally, their kids are not allowed to have social media until they're what, 16? Yeah. Pretty crazy stuff. Well, I actually don't know. I was just, I was thinking about Evan Spiegel and those glasses he's been wearing and I'm not sure if you've seen it, but. I don't know who Evan Spiegel is or the glasses. He's the founder of Snapchat. I'm rewatching the social network. I've been wanting to talk about this. there's a new social network coming out.

1:14:17No way. What is it called when you plant something in someone's brain and then they do it self-consciously? Yeah, there's a word. Because that's what happened here. I asked you the other week. I said, have you watched Social Network? And then you kind of like brushed off the question and you didn't ask me why I asked you that. And then you've now gone and watched it. I assume that's why because I asked you a week ago. Have you seen it? Yeah, and it's a movie I watch every five years. Like, I love it. So they're coming out with a new one. Why? With the same director. Okay. But this is now talking about social media's harm of kids.

1:14:52Oh, great. Yeah. Great. Yeah. So I guess there was some form of whistleblower, and I actually can't believe I don't know the story, a whistleblower who came out and talked about all these studies that Facebook had, which talked about the harms of social media on children that they hid. and so I think it's going to be this like pretty explosive movie that opens up the world's eyes to what's going on at these companies even though like it's out there in the news pardon Zuck knows about it I mean if we know about it Zuck daddy does no I know he knows about it now did he know about when they were making it well that's what we're gonna learn but I assume so wow I loved you okay do we have your undivided attention no you have half my attention the other half of my attention is back at Facebook where it should be I love when he says that yeah I hope that's a real line i watched that in college like over and over and over again i know we're not allowed to talk about our dreams but for some random reason i had a dream that i met zuck my dream last night was i met zuck at a ufc event and we whatever interesting yeah that's an interesting one yeah i wonder why it could mean something good old zucker bear zucker bears um so there's this other there's this platform called wait until the eighth.org can i tell one facebook story sure and we we're doing a lot of finance stuff this episode we can the listener likes it we can keep doing this do you want to know what wait until the eighth.org is or no yeah it's you wait until you're the eighth grade to give your children a phone perfect yeah that reminds me of the scene in the social network where the guy's doing like a, like a, they're in a class or in a class at Harvard and the teacher's like really telling the story and Zuck gets up and he leaves and the professor's like, this class is no one's ever, no one ever can make it through because it's so hard and he like says the answer to him and like keeps walking and that's sort of like what you just did.

1:16:49Yeah. That happened to me in college. You knew the answer? No. Wait, I wasn't listening. Someone left and like they were like, oh, too hard for you and they're like, the answer's 40. Oh, it, irrelevant. In college, we had a class that you could take. You didn't have to take any of the tests or quizzes. Your final grade could count for your entire grade for the semester. And the professor said, like, no one's ever passed this way. And I don't know. That was just to scare people. But I took it and I got a B plus on it. So I got a B plus in the class. Love that. Didn't do a single exam, single quiz.

1:17:21So you got to pick. You want to have your real grade or do you want your final to count for everything? Yeah. Yeah. I'm picking the final every time. Yeah. Like just picking the final. sorry i don't know why my brain went there well i get that though i get the correlation jewels um the wait until the eighth or they also talk about the disappearing friend which is when let's say you and your friends are 15 right and then your friend gets a phone and they get social media but you don't you oftentimes find that that friendship really fades because they're on their phone all the time they stop showing up in person their brain is just like online now existing online and it becomes really lonely for people and so the earlier that happens the harder it is on friendships and the harder it is on social development.

1:17:58Yeah, and then they're spending their Friday nights at home on FaceTimes versus at the park causing ruckus. Exactly, and you start to see them not want to come downstairs for dinner and all of that. Okay, tell us your story about Facebook. That's fine. Save it for another time. No, don't. Tell us. I kind of got to pee. I know that you can hold it and you can tell us the story. Well, it's just unbelievable looking at where Zuckerberg is today versus when Facebook went public. Yeah. So when Facebook went public, that was like right when I first started working in finance. Okay. And we had a very small role in the IPO.

1:18:39And in the IPO process, they like hid him from investors. Why? So like the main interacting member on their behalf was I believe Sheryl Sandberg. Ah. Because like Sheryl Sandberg, very well spoken, understands Wall Street talk. And they're really nervous about like what Zuckerberg would say to investors. I love the scene too where the girl's like, so you cracked through all the security codes. And he's like, yes, which I believe I need some recognition for. And she's like, what? And the head of security is like, we have a very sophisticated system. And he's like, no, you don't. The guy's like, it took us four hours to find you.

1:19:21And he's like, it would have taken you 10 minutes if you knew what you were looking for. just very like a brash very brash speaker and he and i think also he's the smartest man in every room but i think that you nailed it on the head as he was at that point is he was perceived to be very brash and when you deal with these large-scale institutional investors like there's you know an inherent game that needs to be played and there's um where there's like yeah a language that needs to be spoken and and you're running a comp a public company is very much about like hitting your you know understanding the importance of putting out your guidance hitting your your financial targets uh because these investors they need to trust the companies that they're putting their capital into because a lot of time they're investing money from different pension funds and And yeah, you have a lot of near-term accountability as a public company.

1:20:19I have a book rack for Alex based on this. It's called Careless People, A Cautionary Tale of Power, Greed, and Lost Idealism. And it's a former Facebook employee. And she exposes all the inner workings of Facebook. It's a memoir. Juicy. My friends both or two of my friends like loved it and I actually meant to tell you about it. I would love to read that I think that women can hold their pee Five times longer than men can I thought we were about to talk about like woman in the workplace And I was gonna get like trouble for leaving like when you pee When you have to pee it's like we have to stop everything We're doing like Harrison has to be when I had to pee I'm like, I have at least 30 more minutes where I can't hold this.

1:21:07I have three and a half. Like, what are you going to do? Pee in your pants? Like, or can you hold it? I can't. And like, you guys don't even get UTIs. It's like, we can get if we hold it for too long. What do you get? I think men can get UTIs. Oh, can you? Yeah. Urinary tract infection. I don't hold my peas. You don't. It's like, he has to pee and it's like, we have to find a bathroom where it's like, if I have to pee, I'm like, I can make it to Dallas, which is three hours. She's had two kids. Yeah. And I've had two kids. women can hold their peace so much longer than men can okay is this the end of the episode this is the end of the episode we love you guys thank you for listening Harrison has left to go pee oh my god that's accurate though so accurate thanks for listening to another episode of two parents in a podcast powered by just media house if you enjoyed the show don't forget to like subscribe, comment, rate, and review.

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