Nesting, first dates & do audiobooks count as reading?

37:35I did a flip there. I was trying for the sake of bicker of the week to not be on Harrison's side there. However, I do think, Jules, we need the delineation of if you've read or I listened to that. Let's ask neighbor girl. She reads and listens in the middle of the night. Okay, can we text her? Yeah. Okay. Let's ask her what she thinks. I trust neighbor girl. Yeah, well, let's ask her what her thought is. A moment to send the text message. Yeah, they're different classes. Okay, so... No, she hasn't replied. That was just me taking this opportunity for a quick little... Scroll, put your phone up.

38:11No, I'm just doing a quick email. No, H, you're going to lose phone privileges. So speaking of reading versus listening, I'm reading a book right now. And typically, I only read memoirs. Somebody asked me actually on my questions box today, if you could read a book for the first time ever and never have read it, what would it be? It's Shoe Dog. Just like is my favorite book of all time. I've never read it or listened. Oh. well in that case i actually think in that sentence you could say i've read it and we could all move on that's what i'm saying that's all i'm saying yeah i think that's good oh i listen to that yeah okay either way either way you under you know the book you've consumed the book that one i think is better read than listened to i would guess in what world every page all you just you turn the page and there was like more words it was so good but anyways i'm reading this book called mean moms okay i i cannot handle the phone so i am a notorious memoir only i hate anything fictional xyz but this is a mystery book it's actually a satirical mystery book a satirical thriller a satirical thriller so it's based on real moms like influencers upper east side moms but the the author gives them all aliases but the aliases she gives them for example there's a girl in the book named bell her real name in real life she's the founder of hill house is nell okay ava is eva and i'm and i and i didn't know going into it i knew nell and bell okay but I did not know Ava slash Eva so I'm reading it and it says in the book Ava she's the head of fashion at Pinterest and I'm like well Eva Chin is the head of fashion at Instagram so I google it and I'm like is Ava in the book based on Eva Chin Google's like yes it is and I and she's divulging like last night in last last night's chapter she calls one of them a klepto a broke club like She's making these crazy claims.

40:24This to me feels like a massive lawsuit waiting to happen. So while it's a phenomenal 10 out of 10 read, like every page is just full. Assuming she's not honestly representing the characters. So Nell, for example, she's like. Like if there's any misrepresentation going on. I would have. Which proving Selman is a klepto if they haven't been caught stealing and you're publicly making that accusation and stating it as fact feels like that's something that gets very costly. So what I want to say is I love the book. It's a really good read. Yeah. But then I think about it on a human level. Yeah, I'm very confused.

41:10Well, I think about it on a human level and these characters are just like moms that send their kids to a very affluent school. you know one just kissed the headmaster last night's chapter i mean like there's some stuff happening and it's like are those rumors are they stretches of the truth sometimes she goes inside their head and is like you know she's thinking xyz about their husband like that's all hearsay like it's all subjective so it's tough that these characters that their names are just one letter apart from their real people have any of these people taken legal action i tried to google it to see if they have from what i could tell no so i i did google though to see if they can yeah and like it essentially says if you can clearly identify the person as a real person and they're depicted as doing something wrong like being a klepto or kiss i don't know i guess kissing a headmaster that's not wrong um but if it's infidelity yeah it it it isn't confirmed to happened that it's called fictional defamation and you can see yeah i just think like while i'm recommending the book from like a fiction perspective right like just a juicy storyline okay especially like they're in tribeca on harrison street which is like where we used to live jules do i read podcasts no but did i like read the all in this week i have something to say though i'm actually curious I was fighting with my friends on this this weekend, and they said that listening to an audiobook is closer to listening to a podcast than reading a book.

42:56It is. I don't agree. I agree. That's why I went there. I don't agree in the slightest. Because I was thinking, I was like, this is where my brain just went. I was like, okay, Alex is reading this book. It sounds really exciting. And I was like, hmm, should I start reading a book? I'm like, I don't know. I kind of like my podcast mix. Like I'm still only 15 % the way through all ends 2026 predictions. And then I was like, oh, well, I guess podcasts are kind of my books. And especially if I'm listening to them. But here's the thing. So I didn't mean to say that. I don't know. Like I'm an auditory.

43:28There's different like processing. There's visual processors, auditory processors. Like I'm like seeing the words on the page when I'm listening to the book. a podcast like a conversation you guys are talking we're talking right now i'm not listening to a book right now even if when i listened to the episode back i was happy to see that the podcasts had a spot at the golden globes yeah i was thrilled to see that now what i didn't think about though was amy poehler is that her name was up against her ex-husband in smartless yeah And that's funny Amy won And I didn't realize All the shows They were chosen from You had to be a top 25 show On Spotify I think eventually Where we'll get Is like podcast awards Yeah I was Which I think is really cool I didn't know that That podcast existed Oh no It's a cool podcast Amy Poehler's People really like it I think it like just started Though this year or something And why wasn't Rogan nominated When he like His views are exponentially higher than everyone else who was who was nominated well well like why wasn't jay shetty you know like i i was thinking some of these things too yeah well i wasn't i don't know does jay shetty's podcast big i have no clue i would think it's it's the number one mental health podcast podcast in the world as he says but i don't know i don't know and like they're all the shows that were nominated were interview shows and like the two we just talked about were interview shows so it was mel robbins it was caller daddy it was smartless it was amy polar and it was armchair yeah with dax shepherd npr yes and the npr one um i thought armchair was gonna win i don't know why i've never even listened to it i just thought it would win they put up a poll like before it was out and amy polar's was like favored at like 62 or something like that people are loving it is funny like people are loving her podcast they're like loving the way i guess apparently the the tiktok i saw on it was like she doesn't ask she gets really good guests and then asks them like really juicy non-traditional questions and she like she's hilarious like yeah i just my only um like what comes to mind with her is parks and rec and and And she made me laugh for very long periods of time.

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49:29he did not like that noise the person that doesn't like the breathing is gonna love the chewing

49:38okay i gotta give it to you let's hear it tastes the number one note that i'm getting is it tastes extremely fresh thank you it tastes like it actually looks extremely fresh and the texture the chewiness is a tin there's no casing around it this one to me i'm actually impressed it's just it's a commercial product like normal flock fried chicken skin very polarizing some people love it some people doesn't land with. Versus like this, like if you like beef sticks, I think you're going to add this. Why is this bursting with flavor? Yeah, it's incredible. No, I'm actually surprised. We had a lot of bad samples to get here.

50:34This is exceptional. Yeah. It doesn't taste processed at all. It tastes like I just shredded a chicken breast. And seasoned. and super seasoned no thank you what kind of seasoning do we have on here garlic rosemary paprika let me just read to you

50:54i've got gum in mine now so i can't quite get there um garlic onion rosemary that was very good call-outs i glanced at it before okay i mean are you kidding me one thing i can't do I was like stunned. I was impressed. I did do a glance earlier so I was able to call them out. But like I do think people should try this because a lot of chicken sticks have like you got to bite through the thing and they have a little processed taste. It's very fresh. I gave it to Bubba this morning and she loved it. Really? Yeah. Because so like beef sticks. Have you given Winnie one? No. Not yet. Beef sticks like kids love.

51:32So that's part of why beef sticks have grown as big as they have is because they're eaten by both kids and parents. And so we're happy to have a chicken alternib. I'm going to eat a lot of these. Mm-hmm. Really, where do we get them? Right now, just Amazon and flockfoods.com.

51:54But we should have a good, exciting retail announcement soon. Can you give us a hat? No. Cool. we will press no less okay hold on clean high protein thank you for trying filling here's what I want to say about it I think listen I don't want to rank your children but this jumps to the top this is my favorite flock item for sure no question and the second for me is the Benihana flavor those have become a staple in our pantry now speaking of our pantry I have been in a nesting mode which I didn't nest with Tate and the reason I never nested with Tate was we had just moved to Austin with like a month and a half left until she got there we were renting the house I couldn't like fully I could paint the walls like I didn't want a wallpaper or anything because I didn't know how long we were going to be there and there was a lot of unknowns so I didn't go into full nesting mode and what happened when we got back from break as I call it or our trip or the holiday travels was I had this like urge this like massive urge to start organizing all of our cabinets I think that what's funny is what nesting what guys think nesting is is like organizing some clothes for the baby.

53:25But what nesting actually manifests as is like vacuuming baseboards. Do you know my next project? I'm going to organize the cleaning cabinet, which has nothing to do with bringing a baby home from the hospital. But it all starts to matter. It's like a biological effect. I'm loving the nest. I'm loving the nest. Nesting. I'm loving the nesting I think that we like I totally hear you that it sounds like you know what did you say like your definition of it is different than my definition well I actually googled it it says men do nest but it manifests in men more so like handy projects to me the way like I am thinking about like alright what is this this like we have this big day in April coming up where the baby's born oh well well i was thinking in my head was how he said the date that you're being induced no we haven't okay so that's why i was like gonna lead beginning middle end but okay to get back on track like i have that date like it is at the forefront of of my brain and i want things to be locked in and ready for um for his arrival and that's both on the home front like having the nursery set up having all the key items ready like the dock a top vacuumed out though like yes and that's where my brain doesn't go yeah we need to have drawers vacuum like we need to do a full-blown deep clean because i think we got to have a good foundation to now bring some chaos into the household but i'm also thinking outside the house like i want to have my you know mental and physical health in in peak form i want so you're You're actually doing a bit of nesting yourself.

55:20My big motivation on the workout front is really like, it's like I have a race in April coming up. Okay, good. So you're trying to get in tip-top shape. I'm trying to vacuum drawers, reorganize. I want to organize the batteries by AAA to AA. I want to get down to that granular level. I was trying to label things yesterday, but the label maker was dead to my dismay, so we've ordered more batteries. I want to be stocked with batteries. I don't want there to be a crumb to be seen You got the details I got the big picture I like where your head's at with that No but that's a good point I went through the storage area yesterday and I checked like alright do we have the Dock-a-Tot?

56:03What did we save? Do we have that bouncy thing? Do we have the Moses basket? So I'm much more like okay do we have the supplies ready? I have the painter coming next week so that way the paint job's gonna go on Wait are you painting the nursery next week? um yeah okay we need to decide the width of the stripes okay very important it's very important i don't i don't want that like the the health health is one of many things i'm getting ready like on the work front i want everything to be smooth and organized no but age so that way when it comes we're like we're as prepared as one can be but i think health i think that that being what I think that you prioritizing your health your mental health and your work right now is really important because as we saw with Bubber those take about a three month back seat when she comes you want to make sure you're taken care of most you do it every day you make sure I'm taking care of every day somebody asked me question from the audience was how did you handle the hormone crash when weaning I don't I don't know if you saw my story but I put a photo of you and I up and I was like he got me through it I did not thank you yeah I was like he got me through it you have to talk to your partner and you have to say like I'm I'm gonna go through a hormone crash here and it's random because you just they just think you're like drying up your milk supply but there's a direct correlation there to hormones so you take care of me constantly um you deserve me and Bubber so another thing somebody said do do a pregnancy update I will I'll do a slight one right here.

57:37I have had to incorporate naps. I didn't have exhaustion with Tate because I think I just felt sick all the time. So I was just like constantly exhausted. But I had a second trimester burst of energy. I'm about a day away from the third trimester. And like I fell asleep yesterday at the Line Hotel in the lobby. Like I've just become the exhaustion. You can't outrun it. So I got to do a little nap. You're doing great. I'm not a napper. I hate napping. I think they're unproductive. Like, I think it's just, I don't like it. You deserve them. Well, it's not that I deserve them. I have to take them.

58:14So that's my pregnancy update. Also, my body's starting to hurt worse. And I would say exhaustion and, oh, an uptick in hunger. But last night I cracked the code. I keep seeing these viral cut the, yeah, slice the fruit and pour chocolate on it, put it in the freezer. I thought it was really stupid. I tried it last night I truly could not Stop talking to Harrison About it Who couldn't have Caired less Because he didn't have any I ate them all I've learned not To touch your dessert Don't touch my food In general It is a 12 Out of 12 dessert It looked amazing It was unbelievable I can't wait to have it Every night Until I have the baby Yeah it looked really good Every single night I feel like there's more To unpack on the house front The house front I've got some ideas I came to Harrison Who's my favorite general contractor I've met to date and I said I would like to put up some drywall and we have a very open floor plan I was like what if we throw up a bit of drywall here kind of like a half wall build a breakfast nook on the other side and he was like since when do you care about house projects because notoriously Harrison cares a lot about the house projects and he's good at executing them but I've recently figured when we bring the new baby home I want our downstairs to be so comfortable that you don't know what to do with yourself so comfortable i ordered more drapes today i'm finally gonna get our drapes to touch the floor in the living room yeah i i love your engagement on on the home reno stuff i feel like the home reno stuff consumed us like four or five months ago and then we've gotten totally dark on it and now we got some new projects coming and well we did phase a phase one yeah now we're into phase two and the motivation for phase two is April.

1:00:01Yeah. Like we need to do it. Yeah. And then we got to figure out this backyard situation, which I am still, I'm at a roadblock. Yeah. I'm just going to deem you the chief of the pool. I can't be the CPO chief pool officer. It overwhelms me. I don't see it. I don't know, but I can do the inside of the house. Yeah. I'm just, I've shown you a couple mock-ups and they get shut down and I don't know how to do it better. So. I think if we showed the audience like we're entering the pool somehow through a fence, I think they would also be confused. This is our bicker of the week next week, Jules. The bicker of the week.

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1:02:00He said, I'm just mad the designer even drew this up. I said, thank you. I was like, my jaw was on the floor. But you're doing such a good job. You enter to the side of the pool. Who wants to do that? You don't need to like in the Sims, like go around. Oh, a Sims couldn't possibly get there. The Sims would be like, oh my God. Can I tell you though, did you play Sims? Yeah, I was a big Sims player. I used to lose hours on Sims. It was so fun. We should get Bubber Sims. Yeah. Bubber. And a big desktop. No. That's like our whole antithesis would be like gaming at a desktop. Like not until she's 16.

1:02:49she has to go outside and now the neighbors did get Tate a bike for Christmas that she can go play with yeah I gotta set that up I think she's ready for it you think she's ready to start biking I think she's gonna try her and Winnie's current obsession is this car the little tykes car oh they love it they had it out again yesterday with Maria and one of them stands on top one of them stands on the back and Maria holds up against them it's really cute and then her second favorite toy is the piano yeah which we left in Vancouver. So the second piano just arrived today, which will be very exciting for Pepper.

1:03:23Yes. She is a big, big treat when she gets home. I like how you set it up and you put it right in the hallway. So she's going to see it and sprint towards it. Yeah, I want her to walk in and see it and then be able to play her favorite song off of it. All right, we're going to discuss something that came up at my girls brunch that we had, which speaking of the girls brunch, the guys did something really cute at the girls brunch. which is there was like seven or eight of us that went to brunch and we kind of like do it now on some Saturdays like I don't know we're all just like does anybody want to go to xyz and it's the same restaurant every time it's usually the same people we all went and um three of us have boyfriends husbands fiancés no boyfriends fiancés and husbands and the waiter came over to us afterwards and he said the boys have taken care of your meal and that was very nice of you You and the boys.

1:04:18Three boys. I don't know if this story has come out yet. Well, let's drop it here first. But we didn't pay for that meal. What? Other guys at the restaurant paid for the meal. That's not funny. I know it was you guys.

1:04:33That's silly. Take your dubs. Yeah. Yeah. It was really nice of you guys. We were sitting there and... we heard who whose main idea was Nick. It was Nick and, and he was going to get the credit. Like it really basically it was like what? So the game plan was, I actually want to, I think it's okay. Just to get how it all came up. So the game plan was, we were going to meet you after the guys are going to meet the girls after lunch. Cause we were playing golf beforehand as well. To watch football. and um someone said what's the girl's timing and um i think we had like there was some communication saying you guys were close to wrapping up and nick was like yeah like awesome like let's uh let's call the restaurant and um cover the bill and surprise them and chenner was It's like, love it.

1:05:31Great idea. Yeah. Great idea. Yeah. It was just very nice of you guys. And it just made it really fun. Like the mood was just automatically boosted. So that was really sweet. I love a little surprise like that. I think it goes a really long way. And it made the Saturday really fun. So on that note, I saw a clip from Khloe Kardashian saying that how do they split finances in the KarJenner household? and the clip was she was like okay Kim and I's kids go to the same school and on Fridays they have spirit day and there's a spirit store and at the store they only take cash and one day her and Kim were both there and Kim was like I don't have any cash and Chloe was like I've got it and Kim was like I'll pay you back just have my business manager which that was like my favorite part of the clip was like just have my business manager send it to you and Chloe was like Kim we're good second favorite part of the clip she then says Kim's a billionaire right and so it's like nice to have that confirmed because I've always wondered if she actually was a billionaire and Chloe was like so we're mindful of when each other spend money on each other and like we do keep running tab like just because Kim's a billionaire doesn't mean we have her pay for everything um I personally want more juicy details like who pays for the Christmas parties things like that like are we dividing that up but it reminded me of like if you're friends with kim and chloe etc on venmo and you see like kim venmo chloe for like spirit day you'd be like what like they're venmoing each other and it reminded me of couples who will venmo each other for like groceries and things and my my thing is just put your venmo on private just set the venmo to private because then we're all watching like how do you ever do a scroll down venmo lane because i don't but some people do and they'll like see their friends venmo transactions and it's like a husband and wife they've been married for 10 years and like venmo each other for groceries and i'm like i think we should just make it private um i'm not really sure where we're going with this but like what kind of lands to me out of that whole thing is like it almost feels like someone told them to say that to be more relatable like like i don't really think there's like some spirit reimbursement going on in that okay in that in that family i think it's like all right like we need to show that like we're focused on on uh financial awareness like what well i she drops but what i'm saying it's funny too is she's like kim's business manager she becomes a billionaire i loved it i loved it and obviously like couples all deal with finances super differently to me the the second thing that just like jumps out on what you're saying is i think generally keeping your venmo public is a wild move i just think it's really funny to be like grocery like rent but any like to me anyone it's like i'll i still like like well when i open up my venmo will like always have a look at what's going on the main page and it's like characters from like my past life that are just like you know having the most random uh venmos and sometimes there'll be like two people i know like oh yeah you're still friends that's what i'm saying so it's like it's just i think finance it's one thing to see like a friend commenting on another friend's post right cool public all is fair but like sending the money i'm like i don't know take it to zelle or something yeah why'd they even make venmo transactions public in the first place that's a good question like you probably because the way that was marketed to investors was like as a social app because yeah that's what vcs cared about at the time they just never really updated it's a social app now like the fact that you can like and you can comment that being said is like it does garner conversation well no i'm sure it get screenshot like i bet there's a lot of screenshots going on of like um okay what if two people just started dating and one venmoed the other for dinner one people would be like i guess they went on a date too interesting he's having your pay for half i mean that's just a whole lot of conversation that we don't need to be a part of it's good creeping venmo's good creeping that's what i'm saying put it to private you know yeah it's it's a weird thing to share It's funny.

1:10:08I think I've been like a day one private Venmo person. I don't know what I am, but I never really scroll down Venmo. But all I know, and here I'll just say this, Harrison and I, we don't Venmo each other. Do you ever charge me for Venmo? Well, we're a shared bank account family. We're a shared bank account household. So what's mine is yours and what's yours is mine. Isn't that correct? yes ma 'am which is Harrison is the more financially literate one between the two of us and I've learned a lot from you and I've really been enjoying that give yourself credit I am I'm just saying you're more financially literate than I and I learn a lot from you what do you learn from me in finances do tell tell us what you learned from me in finances I would love to know tell us what have I taught you Jules is shaking her head what have I you taught me how to I've taught you there's no money better spent than getting that fridge stocked well everybody always told me when you have a kid you'll be shocked at the amount of money you spend on berries and I always thought that was stupid until now we can't keep them in stock I'm ordering so many berries and she's eating them all yeah Bova loves berries they're the one constant for her though like we like avocado sometimes and we like ba ba ba bananas sometimes but we always like raspberries and blueberries and a lot of them my jaw hit the floor last night that like when when certain stereotypes in life prove themselves to be true and one of these that was so surprising to me was you always hear kids hate broccoli Kids hate broccoli.

1:12:05Kids hate broccoli. I make this amazing broccoli with Parmesan on it yesterday. Put her plate on. I've never seen her spit food out. She put the broccoli in her mouth and just... Truly. I have tried... Went back in for a second round because Bubba doesn't spit out her food. Spits it out a second time. I have tried broccoli. The garlic broccoli. the bread crumb broccoli all different ways. The only time she's had broccoli was in that stir fry. She only had about two pieces of it. But, and then Maria had a hack. She told me about this and I made it for Bubba this weekend. Shred up the broccoli and put it in turkey burgers.

1:12:51Yes. I just thought that she would, like her not eating that parm broccoli kind of flatteners that I did. I was stunned. It was essentially cheese with like a dash of broccoli and she was throwing it out. But I'm with you on this. The old wise tale, kids hate veggies. You saute spinach. Nope. You make her cauliflower. Nope. Like she'll eat everything. Comes and goes. She eats everything and she doesn't like the veggies. It's cute. Yep. Okay, we're going to go to things we DM'd. Okay. And we're going to do the most lighthearted one. Okay. Which is a list of places I need to pull up the actual notion doc here.

1:13:31A list of places that girls don't want to go on a date. Okay. My thing's not populating, though. And then maybe I'll share some wisdom on first dates and keys to first dates. Well, I have some also written down that you've taught me. Okay. But why isn't my thing updating on here? Do you want to hear my number one key to a first date? Yeah. Is always have a second location planned. so that way if the first location is going well you set yourself up to move locations

1:14:08i just had a big moment yes emily oster started a mom's creator group yeah and it's a place where you can there's 10 of us in it yeah it's a place where you can submit questions um ask her for advice and just have an overall mom chat and she's going to share her opinion on hot topics oh wow my friend katie beach just sent me a screenshot of it saying hi we both made it that's a big moment for me i'm very excited about that um okay tell i'm so sorry i broke my own rule what was your tip i know i was really excited i didn't know what she was screenshotting the key to a first date is always have a second location planned in case things are going well the first totally agree and go in it with that energy that it's gonna go so well you need to go to two spots yeah I like that we went to three on our first date okay here's a list of places women absolutely refuse to go on a first date let's hear there's 28 I'm gonna summarize okay okay you'll get the gist cheesecake factory yeah Applebee's okay Chili's.

1:15:19So chains. Chipotle. I stand by that. No chains on a first date. Number six. If you're going to do a coffee shop, don't go to a chain. Go to a cute neighborhood coffee shop. Okay, but here's some more polarizing ones. The movies. Yeah, that's a ridiculous first date. Because you can't talk? Yeah. I'm fine with the movie. Your house? Yeah, that's completely inappropriate. Buffalo Wild Wings, I think, is insulting, and I would go there on a first date. So I'm very mad about that. um i think chains in general is a no for a first date a buffet well i don't know why we're assaulting buffets i'm fine to go there the gym completely agree i i where i'd push back on that is like going and doing a workout class if you like met someone at a workout class and it was like you know you're talking them after it's like hey what do you do next Saturday?

1:16:13Do you want to take the 10, 15 and, and grab breakfast after a second or third or fourth date? Fine. But if you, if you live in that fitness world and you're not a drinker, I think that's a great act. I think that's a great day. Well, I think that one's fine too. If it's, that's a very casual day. Like I don't want you to see me working out for our first date, but my kind of point on that is, is if no, but if you know that girl from the workout class, so like if you see them all the time that's not a real first date that's a i'm trying to figure out if you're single but it's a what are you doing next weekend what do you want to do the 10 15 and get breakfast after that's a layup but i don't think you had to work hard enough for i i don't like i'm i'm gonna say no jim unless it's not a real outline date i i think we've seen the studies on how few men are asking women out right now.

1:17:07And so I think we need to lower the bar. We don't need to lower the bar. Pause for a second. Jules, got him. I think guys are afraid to ask girls on dates. So I don't know if lower the bar is right, is the right word, but I think that maybe we got to keep the standard high. Yeah. Okay. but help me Jules help me I'm okay with brunch afterwards like I can understand how it fits into your schedule going to the gym is like a hang maybe not a date but that's what I'm saying the breakfast after yeah it's like a small it's a piece of the equation okay moving along to family functions my one carve out here is I think it could be hilarious if you needed a date and you asked a girl like I'm down for that like a wedding yes first date to a wedding you can't you absolutely can't you need to like get a coffee with them first or do a workout class and a breakfast after okay bowling i think is a phenomenal first date great first i actually think we should move that to a top 10 first date but here's what i'm gonna say on bowling okay okay i think bowling is the perfect second location so picking a bar close to a bowling alley it's going well you can bring up bowling what do you think of bowling have you when's the last time you've been haven't haven't been in forever but you know what there's a great bowling alley block and a half away what do you think we check it out and then you get points for spontaneity and you already have the reservation booked but that brings us to 26 a bar just for drinks not a good place for a first date what else are you doing i think like that's base rate i'm fine with it but it needs the bar needs to there needs to be a story to the bar i can't just be a good bar yeah good bar i think not fancy but good Jules no no keep going I think number 27 is perhaps the most insulting on the list and that's Waffle House if somebody invites me to Waffle House on a first date I could say you could propose to me afterwards I think it's one of the greater American treasures all-American breakfast you never been still should we get married at Waffle House I would be down for that at least have the reception there oh that could be a lot of fun Sydney and I grew up walking to Waffle House twice a week.

1:19:22So what is this list that we're listening to? It's on Complex and it's a list of places that women absolutely refuse to go on a first date and thank you to the ladies who reached out to help me on my list. Okay. Number 28. Yeah. This one is the second most insulting on the list. Sporting events? I think that's a great first date. If you took me to that hockey game on our first date, I would have had a blast. It's a great first date. I think it's a great first date. I just feel weird because I realize I'm arguing with people saying it's a bad first date. That's fine. I think these are good first dates.

1:19:56I'm defending it, I guess. I also... What are you going to say? No, you can keep going. But I also really think, like, Chipotle, I get it's fast casual. But Olive Garden, Cheesecake Factory, Applebee's, Chili's, those are, like, nostalgic. Like, I think that's a lot of fun conversation around that. Yeah. I was just going to say, did you see what Walmart commented? What? What'd they say? They just said, you know who's not on here, though? That's funny. Go to Walmart on your first date. I like it. Love it. That's the kind of social media banter that I'm there for. There's a lot of brands commenting.

1:20:27It's funny. Love it. Another interesting thing that I remember back on our first date was you always said what you do. Like, don't set the precedent so high that you can't keep up with it. I did. I did not follow that with you. What did you do with me that was so... The first bar we went was a really nice bar. Overstory is fabulous. Fancy bar, really tough reservation at the time. The Balloon Museum was just really an epic experience. Well, it was the best first date I've ever been on, I say.

1:21:12Coming up with a second date to top that date would have been very hard. Well, the good news is we never stopped going on the first day, so you didn't have to think too hard. Yes. Thank you. But we did go to Bond Street Sushi the next day. No, that was Monday. Okay. Yeah, you're right. Sorry. Sunday, walked West Side Highway, Aperol Spritz is at Lohr, and then - My famous pizza place that you hated. Your famous pizza place. Is vegan, which is tough for guys, but I love it. I was more so referring to you saying like you calling me an Uber. You were like, I didn't want to do that because I think like what you set the precedent.

1:21:49You offered to pick me up in your Uber on the way there. But I mean, this baby's kicking like I think it's about the jog. But you you had said something like what I do now. I want to be able to sustain. Yes. Something like that. No. Yes, for sure. You like which I like. Yes, you don't want to set the wrong precedent, but I very rarely do. I don't think I ever would go that big on a first date. Normally, my first dates were pretty standard drink to either restaurant or activity. Which I think is good because there is. And then I think when you really start to like the girl, then you can start to roll out the red carpet.

1:22:35Like you had a really fun fourth or fifth date where you asked me my favorite food in the world. I said pancakes. You brought over pancakes, board games, and art supplies. And you had things we were going to do throughout the night. And like that to me was fun. Yes. Where we push back on this date. I think the most important thing with the first date is that two people can sit there, get to know each other, and get a feel for if there's chemistry. and so I think you ultimately want to optimize for a location that does that it's that simple like a restaurant like a restaurant or a bar you can go to a bar first and then a restaurant second or vice versa show you put some thought into it a little bit of thought but I do agree like you need to have the foundation of conversation which is why I guess a movie is bad although I'm still down for a movie although it's a bit awkward at a movie I guess because like do you kind of like put your arm around her do you sit there what if there's like a kissing scene okay maybe I'm out on the first movie.

1:23:31Maybe I've talked myself out of it. I love a movie, though, for a top 10 first date situation. I'm in on that. Sweatpants movie, it's casual. It's one of the first 10 dates. Yeah, that's cool. I'm good with that. That makes a lot of sense to me. Yeah. We went to a sporting event, though. We went to a basketball game and had a blast, and you got the tickets where you could shoot the ball on the practice court. That was really fun. Really, really, really fun. you were great at dates. You still are. Thank you. I mean, we aren't going on nearly enough dates, but we'll... But do you know what I look forward to in life?

1:24:10Just knowing that when we do get back to our dates, I mean, you're not boring. We go on just comedy club or what were we doing this weekend? And I was like, this boy, there's never a dull day. Didn't stop. Friday, you're like, we got to get barbecue. And we went and did it. Che Black's. My life is significantly more fun with you in it. Right back at you. Don't you forget it. Okay. We're doing one things we DM this week because we kind of like rift for so long. So there's your one. And that's it, guys. We love you. Thank you for listening. And have a great weekend and happy Thursday. Thank you for listening.

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