NEWBORN Q&A: Rocky’s birth story, Alex’s postpartum update & how Tate is adjusting

0:00Hi. Hello. Hello. Are we ready? We are ready. We're sitting, we're live and recording. Okay, I'm really excited to listen. So here's what I'm thinking. Okay. I'm thinking that we start off and I give the update on how you and the baby are doing, the birth, because I feel like that's, you know, the most common question. It's just like, how is, how's the birth? How, how are Alex's doing? and Rocky. And then I think what we should do is Jules, do you have access to my Instagram? Yeah. Okay. So I think that you should go through my Instagram and fire off questions to me. Okay, perfect. Jules should.

0:46And my assumption is like, if you think it's a good question, then I'll just answer it. And if there for whatever reason is anything I don't answer, I'll just say skip or pass. Perfect. Love it. I'm excited to listen to you answer these. Rocky and I are both listening Okay What did Jules just say Well Alex was talking And you weren't holding it up to the mic Okay Yeah I also hilariously realized I'm not wearing my wedding ring again Oh my gosh Yeah Oh my goodness Oh my goodness You have a grace period I have a grace period Jules what am I supposed to say to get this thing going I can't say it Alex Please do Welcome back to another episode of Two Parents in a Podcast Featuring Harrison And Rocky

1:49Okay Here's my question Are you reading the questions or is Jules reading them to you I think Jules has got to read the questions because I also don't have an iPad in front of me. I think it's better if Jules reads them. Okay, perfect. But kind of remember to repeat back the question a little bit. Okay, cool. For the sake of social media. All right, let's do it. Okay, so I think first question is just like, how are you guys feeling? Like how are we feeling just in general? Yeah. In general, how are we feeling? Yeah. I would say like we are so excited because when I'm pregnant, like things in our life are not as fun.

2:30Like I don't have as much energy. So Harrison's like taking on a lot more, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Right. Fast forward to when we had this baby starting with a good birth. We were so excited in the hospital room, even though we had to be there for, and Harrison will get into how many days. We just would go on walks together while I was in the wheelchair, but we would go outside together and we would talk about how we're excited to get home to get this journey started. So I would say we're just like over the moon. And I'll say this to you, Harrison, I'm having a lot of fun figuring this phase out with you because there's no playbook on how to bring home two kids.

3:05There's no playbook on, you know, you've got the nighttime shift now. And then in the morning, you've got bubs waking up. We've got bubs going to bed. We're trying to feed bubs. We're trying to do milk. Like there's a lot that's going on. And Harrison and I, I think we're having a lot of fun figuring out what that looks like for our family. And on the way home from the hospital, we were just like, we kept, I think our whole conversation was, there's four of us now. We have a family of four. Like, it's just really surreal and it's really fun and it's really sweet. Yeah, just totally overcome with joy.

3:36So happy, so excited. I have loved the first chapter of family building with you and now just like so excited to start the second chapter of family building with you I also feel like we're in two really fun phases like I love right now taking she can say shoes and she books a lot to read and like that's a really fun phase and now also this little boy like it's so funny I forgot what this phase was like and so during the day you know when Tate goes with Maria we're in our little newborn bubble and then in the mornings and the nights we're in our family of four bubble and it's just a really sweet time and I think about a lot Harrison how you said that guy somebody asked him what are you jealous of and he said I'm jealous of people who are in the phase of having kids right now.

4:32And I really understand that answer because this to me is like, this is what life's about. So it's, it's really special. Totally. So, um, he was born on the 18th. Alex was induced. We went in at seven o 'clock the, uh, Oh my goodness. I'm blanking on the name. the drip pitocin the pitocin started at 9 a.m ish plus minus and he was born at 5 30 the epidural did work it was a massive conversation point in there like everyone was it was very clear everyone the first one didn't work and there was a tremendous level of care that uh that was put into the epidural, I asked Alex, like, it's very hard for me to comment on, like, what the birth was like for her, right?

5:29And so I basically asked her to summarize and said, all right, how was experience one in terms of pain? And how is birth two? And she said, birth one was a nine out of 10 in terms of pain and experience and birth two was a two out of ten and so it the way she has described it to me is it was a night it was a very different experience a night and day experience and from a spectator's perspective that is how uh that is how it appeared to be the case so So what else would be interesting for me to talk about on that front? Am I allowed to talk? Yeah, I can hear you. So can I say a couple things, H?

6:27I mean, of course. So I think that the first thing is the way that – so the guy did the epidural, and I thought our nurse did something very interesting, which was she had me move, she reclined me down, remember? Because she said that's how you get it to evenly distribute around your body. Because sometimes epidurals just work on one side. So she said, let's recline you down. And then I moved my legs back and forth like a windshield wiper. I don't know if that did anything, but to me, I thought that would also help with even distribution. So the epidural, because I'm now, I guess, technically at three epidurals.

7:06The first one didn't work. The second one worked on half of my body. And this third one was, it was like the epidural bliss that everybody talks about. And like, I truly just felt nothing except for right at the beginning when my, I think my blood pressure kind of had to adjust to the epidural. So I did throw up like everything in my system and I got really hot and my blood pressure dropped. but our nurse she was just she knew that that could happen and so she already had this medicine ready gave it to me immediately and that just stabilized everything so for like 20 minutes it was uncomfortable and I just needed her to get it under control and she did and from there like I never believed people could have like a painless birth and i would say like it was almost like pushing was of course hard and like you're pushing with everything in your body but i would say it was like relatively lovely like it was a lovely experience past that i feel like that was all the information anyone actually wanted to hear so once again saved by alex you should talk about i think you should talk about like the nurse i think that was something that I had written down was like, you know, how awesome our nurse was, Courtney.

8:23Yeah. Our nurse was incredible. She really paid attention to what happened last time and, and how to get ahead of it. There was like, after the Pitocin hit, when you went into the state of nausea, which like hit hard for call it five minutes plus minus, I, it felt like we were going right back down the path of birth one with blood pressure dropping and then it it turned right over um and so that was obviously amazing to see and you know better for uh couldn't have been better for anyone else more than you did they like when you get in there like ask you how the birth of baby one went like how did or we and and alex was very good at this of like giving them all the information because i feel like if you wait for them to ask certain details can be missed and so she gave a really good holistic rundown of like what went down last time what went right whatever i did you write it down before no i wouldn't think it would have been helpful i think most people would have not not her and i love it okay anything else on the birth i'm trying to think oh well i put so i put for 10 minutes um we were out so we were at a seven and we were watching the show marshalls which is like the new yellowstone kind of spin-off and everyone said it's really good.

9:58And it was so funny because the first birth, Harrison and I took like all the electronics to hook up to the TV to like watch movies on the TV in the hospital room. We didn't watch anything. We didn't even open our laptops. Like we had no time to do anything. So this time we were like, we don't need anything. Like we'll just use our phones if we want to watch a show, but we probably won't even want to watch a show. When I tell you we were bored, like we, the second birth, like we were so bored. So we started watching Marshall's on his laptop, which was good. And like, it distracted us. But I remember I was at a seven.

10:34I was dilated to a seven. And we started in an episode. And we only made it halfway through. And I was fully at a 10. I was like, plus one. I guess there's such thing as like more than a 10. And then she said I was fully effaced. And so she was like, don't laugh. Because like, we need to call your doctor. Because she needs to come over right now. Because like, you're about to have this baby. and then and so that was like i went from a seven to a ten in what 25 minutes and then my doctor ran over and i pushed for probably 10 minutes and then boom baby was in the arms so the to build off of that the i think that you started throwing up i think you threw up from like a three to a 10 last time directionally and so it was a massive surprise when i think it was a massive surprise when that just didn't happen

11:39and so yeah like the there was a lot like a lot of downtime and sitting and waiting which like just last time there was no sitting and waiting it was throwing up and it was crying and screaming the whole time i was over here um getting coffee and i ran into yeah we were both wearing blue ironically okay this was on saturday okay and she said today's the day and i said i think they're bored because you were texting me podcast topics and said no they are bored harrison's texting me this this and that and we just had a little laugh together well like last time like alex wasn't on her phone so like right i was all communication so like i had like group chats with different family and friends and so on and so forth and this time like i had the group chats all set up but she was like texting it was like do what like there was how long do you think you were out of it for like 30 minutes that was it and last time how long do you think you were out of it the entire 36 hours like it's unbelievable this time this time i was out of it for 30 minutes but i was really nervous like i went in and i was like i'm scared to death of this because i just know you know it can go south and so when it started when i did have the nausea the epidural nausea and the shakes hit me I was like oh my god it's good I'm gonna be like this for 20 hours and like I'm just about to get wrecked again and so whenever it went away and I felt so good I just kept thinking like this is too good to be true it's probably gonna leave again but it never did and so yeah I just was like on my phone I was texting I was watching shows like I really I had a nice time one funny piece of it is our doctor for the whole time for the second pregnancy was talking to Alex about like don't worry it's gonna be nothing like the first one it's gonna be so fast and I was just like always sitting in that corner being like man like you're really setting expectations a certain way and she was she was she was right oh on on her where I have to give her such kudos is she called our nurse when I was at a four or five and came and broke my water and i think that really helped move things along yeah so my water didn't break naturally just because i know people are going to ask that so she came and she broke it she broke it the first time too yeah um and the first time i knew the epidural wasn't working because i could feel the catheter go in and like this time i cannot explain to you i felt nothing and it was it was amazing i need to do a programming note or a production note okay what is it i think i need the phone because all Harrison's doing is breathing into the microphone while Alex is talking into the phone.

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16:59Available nationwide at Target and Walmart, plus many other major grocery stores and retailers. I feel like it's very appropriate that Alex isn't here and Jules still takes my phone. Someone here to do the job. I completely agree. Out of solidarity. Thank you. Of course. Yeah, I just think the breathing is a little bit too much. And I know that that's a common note of the listeners. But I'm sure they're excited to hear this. I can't do it. Always looking out. You were telling me not to. My nose is clogged. I wish I wasn't doing it. Well, here we are. Okay. Anything else you want to say on that part or do you want to get into some questions?

17:40I feel like Alex really captured all of it. And yeah, that was probably a lot, that was a lot more informative than if she was not here. Alex, anything from you? No, I think that's good. I'm trying not to talk too much because I really want to listen to Harrison, but I did think that maybe that was one area where I'll chime in. But now I'm going to mute. OK, I do feel like the other area maybe to potentially chime in would be how you're doing. How are you doing? I will. OK, so we're going to do that now. Yeah. I'm doing so much better this time than I was the first time. So Harrison can explain that we spent four nights.

18:23We spent four nights in the hospital or three. Yeah. Why don't I give that rundown? or you just go sorry well no i i want you to give the rundown on how many nights we spend in the hospital why we did how it was xyz but i'll answer how i'm doing so that was both hard on me and lovely on me at the same time because i love seeing natural light and like the second i have a baby i like when you when you feel the hormones rush out of you and you get the shakes for about honestly it could be two hours after the baby comes out you really like your your jaws trembling you're uncontrollably shaking and it's the hormones leaving one leaving your body to readjusting in your body and whenever that happens to me I love it because my body doesn't like being pregnant far prefers being not pregnant and so I start I I know this is crazy but I'm sure maybe somebody I'm sure a lot of people maybe identify with this but like I instantly feel better and so then I'm like okay I get to go home I get to like we get to see bugs we get to get back to normal life like we've got our house set up we're ready for this baby and then you know you learn you're staying in the hospital but the hospital for us it was fun like we had visitors we watched shows um you know I really got my milk supply started to establish and the other good news was if I was at home I think I would have walked around a lot whereas I actually stayed in bed which is really good because I didn't tear as much as last time but I still still tore so I have some stitches and so like staying in bed was really really good for me and it was like it was honestly looking back on it really sweet to just have me Harrison and Rocky for a little bit and get that newborn time So that's my first, that's my first take.

20:15How I'm feeling is probably like three out of 10 on the pain scale in terms of like physical pain and mentally, I feel really, really good. I just get a little overwhelmed, not the right word, but like I'm trying, I'm trying to, it happened to me with Tate too. Like you have a second kid. Now you're a family of four and your routine totally changes. And I want to get up and run around and like participate on all of this, but you're still supposed to stay in bed. And so it's just, I'm adjusting to the new normal, but mentally I feel great. And I didn't feel so great after Tate. I had a little bit of depression and I definitely have some anxiety.

20:57Like I can tell some of this stuff, like last night, I just was like, I made Harrison vacuum last night at like 11 PM. and he was like I was so happy to do that for you because I knew it would just make you feel better and it was just the weirdest like I was like we have to have of course we have to have our floors clean in our room and like what that's very unlike me so I do have these just like little anxious things happening that I can tell are very postpartum and very like my um hormones regulating and so like I almost came today but I was like no I need to stay home I need to pump I need to feed him.

21:32I need to stay in bed. Like I'm very happy in my newborn bubble. Um, and it's very blissful the second time, because the first time there's, you don't know what to expect, like understanding how to do the pumping in the milk and understanding what to expect with these nighttime wakeups, um, makes it, makes it more easy to enjoy it. Like I'm enjoying waking up throughout the night right now. And so it's very blissful. It's very fun. And the unknown part of it this time is navigating two kids and not one and that's been really fun too so so i would say overall i feel really good but i'm definitely like having the normal postpartum like stay in bed um little like anxious things happening but i would just kind of laugh at them because we at least know this time around what it is so that's the story on how i feel sorry that was long-winded you you're doing you're doing so well like you're an absolute champ you're a champ for the first pregnancy and birth and postpartum you're a champ for the second pregnancy birth and and postpartum and you i'm so proud of you um like you you are you are rocking it and i want you to hear that every day even if you don't want to hear it and um i would i would add you mentioned that the that you're feeling pain-wise three out of 10.

22:55I did. I didn't think that Alex was going to come today. So I asked her a couple of questions beforehand and she mentioned that the pain last time was also a nine out of 10. And so it is very nice to see you also having a smoother pain recovery, physical pain recovery. And, um, yeah. They just say like you tear, you might have trouble. He's Like, you're not going to tear that much this time. And I thought that meant I was going to be, like, walking around the house. It's not that yet. Like, I have a little less than a one degree. Last time I had a third degree. But, and I was like, oh, I will be jogging in a week, obviously.

23:36It's still not that. Like, definitely sitting in bed is my most comfiest. But that's, like I told Harrison, like, that's what I need to do for a week. And then the second week, I need to just slightly walk around the house, slightly. Like I really do just have to take it slow and that's hard, but it's part of the process. Yeah. I'm really proud of you for listening to, listening to your body and, and taking in all the information and setting your own schedule. Thank you. And whatever you need. I'm here for you. Now talk about, talk about what happened with him after. Should we rip some Q and A?

24:07Yeah. Yeah. You got to answer why we were in the hospital. Yeah. So, so he came out around five 30 on the 18th and then we didn't get home until Tuesday. and if you were to ask what are one of the biggest differences in terms of like the post experience mindset in the hospital I remember after we had Tate like we wanted to stay in the hospital like we were hoping we could stay an extra night like we were so scared we didn't know how to change a diaper and like saturday night alex turned to me and she was like i like i would like to go home now and so like because like you understand how to do things and you have a program and so like we were really just like watching the clock in terms of when we could get get released his uh he he's very healthy baby uh they own the thing that kept us is his jaundice levels were were testing high And so they wanted to make sure that they got them under control, which they did.

25:13And I just want to remind you, H. Bember, he's Coombs positive. Yeah. And so what that essentially means is that he has a different blood type than Alex. And so when her blood gets in his system, that can create some added complications around things like jaundice, to my understanding. oh I've never heard of that before so we have two so it's crazy my friend Jade said to me like it's crazy you can create a human with a different type of blood and it's like you you can and that is crazy so what happened was even if you have different types of blood it doesn't always mean my blood gets in the baby but if their coombs positive it means that my blood did get in him a little and so his body which can that can equal jaundice so what he has to do is he his body has to get rid of it and he does that with bowel movements peeing and what he had to do was he went on like the light like it looked like a little tanning bed he had to do like a little light therapy and he wore these little goggles it was so cute he was like wrapped up in like a little tanning bed with a blanket around them um and so they just have to make sure his body sheds the stuff that's not wanted which is my blood and so he did it we're really proud of him and he's home now and he's all good um but that's why we were there later and if you see a photo of him in under the light, it like looks very, very scary.

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28:19Like when I sent the photo to, um, to our people, the initial feedback was like, whoa, is everything okay? And, and the vibe and the calming and the education from the doctors, like it was all collectively very calm throughout. Like there, they didn't, there was no concern. There was no elevated concern throughout. I just sent it to you Jules to see. Thank you. his little glasses the glasses are good i saved the glasses i saved the glasses i saved the glasses that is so funny yeah all right do you want to get into some of the listener questions i'd love to what do you what what kind of vibe do you want to start with like truly anything like whatever you saw is like i there were so many that came in and so a ton around the name so we can start with the name what's his full name rocky harold fugman alex told the story of rocky it came up at a lunch with a friend loved it harold is a family name and fugman is my last name thank you thank you is our last name oh

29:32i need to know how your friend guessed rocky how chad did yeah how did he guess that it was nowhere on my radar he is just like it speaks a lot about him as a person he's very attentive and very caring and has a very good read on people that does not explain that jules does those things too that doesn't explain that he could pull that name out of a hat and guess do you want to know what i think it is jules he he and harrison we're quick friends and like we'll they'll go like do something sometimes and they'll just sit there and talk for like four or five hours and like there's just some people that you have that you're just like i just have always gotten along with them and so it's like so fitting for chad to just like get harrison's son's name right i don't know if that makes sense but it's just like he would i just need you to ask him like what was his like how did he arrive there yeah i will we're gonna have a cigar and a beer together okay perfect yeah and and i haven't drank and alex hasn't drank since the birth which i i think he's kind of he's like do you want to have a celebratory glass of champagne and i'm like no i am so happy yes we haven't drank it neither have i look at that all three of us all five of us um what and then what other names were you guys thinking that you didn't pick because people want some more inspo that's like a la rocky we we never had something that like was enough if that makes sense like there was never a name like there were names that we would get excited about that consistently came up like fits like west like what else am i missing out i think miller was miller was kind of because you want one that's like got some spunk but it's still classic but it's not so like i get I get like all a Rocky, but for me, I agree.

31:30Like we didn't have one that had it, but Miller for me was kind of close. We like tried to convince ourselves on all these and none of them got over. There was a dark horse and the dark horse that came out of left field and it may have come at the hospital was we have a friend whose last name is Cruz and she threw, she just threw Cruz in the chat as people were guessing. and like i looked at alex and was like i would do cruise like i'm game with cruise and she held the guns on rocky so and that came out of left field had cruise come up before rocky i think it would have been cruise i actually i'm so glad you said that i forgot cruise it cruise was another one we really really liked you're right but it did it didn't come up till we were in the hospital at all yeah and at that point like we loved rocky we'd like tate we've been talking to tate about rocky for a good chunk of time like she knew rocky it felt like rocky was part of our was our was part of our family yes i love his name i really love his name like beforehand i think it feels good to be like yeah when people use it in the sentence and things it feels good to be like okay good i'm that we picked that yeah we definitely like do not have a day one nickname on him like i see alex like you've got probably feels like four to six things that you're mixing in i really don't have any yet so like baba just as much as we want it to work it just doesn't work for a couple different reasons one like that's what most importantly that's what uh the the neighbor's kid's nickname is and it's close to Bubber so it um what were you gonna say Jules I want to know what Alex's nicknames are so I call Roe is what I hear the most Roe-Poe-E like Roe-Poe-E like Roe-Poe-E Rocky-Talky like walkie-talkie um Rose City have you seen the TikTok trend I sent which is like what do you mean my son's name is Rocky and I call him Band-Aid like that's how far away like we call tape salad right like it's such a funny thing how you end up in the comment section i think i sent it to you guys the comment section is so funny on that tiktok but yeah right now it's it's it's row row and rowey is kind of what i'm rolling with i call him rock star in my head just so you guys know love it oh yeah and like people were like tater tot and rocky road like there's it's kind of cute oh rocky road is so good yeah it's cute i like rocky road a lot the the whole Rocky Mountain tie-in as well was not a driver of the name, but obviously is something that really lads with me.

34:13And when you said UT, did you mean Tennessee? That was the Easter egg of Easter eggs. Once you guys sent me the name, I had to do a lot of Googling because I was like, I don't understand the connection between Rocky and UT. Yeah. And then I found out it was UTennessee. Yeah. so so um like usc ut i have a group of buddies that went to ut and like both sides claim ut as as their name another one i think it's oklahoma do you call one of your schools in oklahoma osu yeah oklahoma state and you guys do too ohio state right yeah but like come on i know

34:57I've always been confused by that But I thought Harrison when he said UT I thought he meant Texas also People were guessing Bevo People were guessing Archie No it was an intentionally misleading hint Yeah it was It was funny But like I am a I love both UT's Okay So UT was my team Up until I moved to Austin Really? Tennessee Yeah oh it's confusing yeah um okay we talked about this before but like the concept that your first child grows like five inches overnight wait have we talked about this yeah i i was the one that brought it up okay i must have been on my phone because what i can tell you is my jaw has consistently been on the floor when i think about how big tate is today versus a week ago like she feels just like she has grown like when we got back my initial thought was like oh she had a massive growth spurt when we were gone like and just the like from carrying her to how she moves like what there must be some word to describe this phenomenon because it's it's brain breaking how much bigger she seems.

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38:09It went, I think it went incredibly well. so the game plan initially and and we have an episode coming out with dr becky where we talk a lot about um introduction of of siblings and so we'll get into a lot more of it on that episode so if you're interested i recommend checking it out it comes out i think monday on monday perfect and so the initial game plan was that we were going to bring tate to the hospital when we were leaving and we were all going to leave as a family. But when it looked like we weren't going to come home early and we were going to get extended, we felt it was best to stop pushing it off.