Our top 5 must-haves for traveling with a baby (under 12 months), toxic positivity & creating the ultimate playroom

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0:57Well, I feel like we normally have been like talking and then our casual talking goes into the – Oh, no pre-roll? I don't know what it's called. There's a sequel and a prequel and I think that the sequel – Yeah, pre – Okay, there was this in Yellowstone. The prequel is before and the sequel is after. Yeah. But I think you made pre-roll. Pre-roll. Like we do the kind of chat beforehand but not today. Nope. Not today. Because today we are not at home. We're in Oklahoma still. We came here for my grandmother's funeral, which was lovely. I have to give a shout out to my mom and aunt who they had these doves come and the great grandkids held the doves and set them off at the burial.

1:48And because Tate obviously can't hold a dove, I was the one that did it for her. and I posted this photo on my Instagram but like the other great grandkids were like so chill holding the dove and I just knew I was like oh no no no no like this isn't my thing like I kind of get a little scared and I was just I had this dove that was had a personality to it and kept trying to like claw me and turning its head all the way around just looking at me and it was freaking me out but all that to say but Tate did like to pat pat pat the dove but I thought that doing the dove release was awesome. Yeah, it was a beautiful ceremony.

2:24And I thought what he shared about the dove release was really powerful as well, which when he was talking about how he's like, you know, people always ask me when we release the doves, where do they go? And he talked about the farm that they live on and how they go back home and the symbolic nature of the way they go back home is the way your grandmother is going back to her home. Yeah. And I thought that that was very powerful. So Jennifer Welch, who I reference to you often, she was my first boss right out of college. And her dad, Rick, was a – I'm going to sort of butcher this, but he was like a bird.

3:19He had these birds, okay? He could let them go hundreds of miles away, and they can fly back directly to his house. That's wild. Well, like pigeon carriers, right? It's incredible. And this is what the guy yesterday was saying, how these birds – so they will race pigeons. So you can start them, and then they'll do a 200-mile race, and they will go, and they'll fly, and they'll just land right on your arm. It's the craziest thing. Wild. So I knew yesterday where the guy was going with this. I was like, oh, these doves are going to fly home. I did not. I did not. I thought that like they were new doves every time.

3:54You thought they just let them go and then they flew away out into the atmosphere. Yeah. Yeah. Like for sure. No. For sure. That's what I thought. Okay. So we were getting on our flight yesterday to go home and we sat on the tarmac for four hours because of weather in Dallas and then they ended up canceling our flight. Harris and I looked at each other and we were like, you know what? But this is a great – this is okay. It's a Tuesday night. Wednesday, we have a good amount of work things to do, but nothing time sensitive except we needed to record this episode and we needed to get it to P to edit.

4:29But like there was nothing that – we didn't have like a wedding the next morning. Yes. We're very big into perspective right now. and so um i want to see if i can find the um the story that i i shared the other day but it doesn't i i'm actually going to look for it real quickly and what story um oh the quote you read me not the quote the um harrison has been reading me a lot of really good quote like daily are you subscribed to like a couple quote things it's a it's a combo it's a combo of accounts i follow on twitter and did we okay you guys in in carmel i bought the daily stoic did we lose it i think so oh there's always a casual oh this is such a good one too but i actually haven't shared that with you yet i'm really upset um you kind of need to find it at this moment okay sorry so we're we're you didn't find the quote no i found it okay so um as i was saying we're big on perspective right now and this was a little um a little story that i liked um on perspective and it's a traveler approached three stone cutters working on a construction site and asked each.

5:49Okay, we'll slow it down. What? I've heard it and I couldn't understand you. A traveler approached three stone cutters working on a construction site and asked each one of them what they were doing. The first stone cutter said, I'm cutting stone. The second stone cutter replied, I'm building a wall. But the third stone cutter smiled proudly and said, I'm building a cathedral. Same task, different perspective so when so i have heard quotes like this before okay as well and so whenever i heard it i was like i know perspective but then you challenged me on like specific situations like i can't remember what was happening oh maybe it was our travel day in napa and it was just like oh you really drilled it down because i was like i've heard that a million times and you're like but it's directly applicable to everything in your life i think i think last night was a great example which was like we could sit there and be frustrated like we just sat on the tarmac for four hours with our baby we're not um home after three weeks um we uh had you know we had a schedule in austin tomorrow which like we now can't do or it was like let's flip the perspective of hey we get to spend another night in oklahoma city kate gets to spend all all morning with your family yeah we have built-in babysitters we get to like record in in a new place you're missing a big one um what did we do last night oh we got to eat at bra but we literally got to go to like your got to go to brahms like your childhood burger joint and um and then the big thing that we touched on what you said was we didn't have anything major going on in austin today we didn't and the example you used was wedding and like the crazy thing that happened is it must have been three to four minutes after you had said we don't have anything big like a wedding we heard a guy I, very upset, probably 10, 15 feet away from us.

8:07And... We heard him on the phone at first in the corner, and he was on speakerphone, and it was like, he was like, I don't know what to do. And I was just like, what is happening? And then he came over, and he goes, he was waiting on his Uber, and he was standing in front of us, because we were waiting on my parents standing out front, and he was waiting on somebody to pick him up. And he turned to us, and he was like, were you guys on that Dallas flight? And we were like, yes. And he was like, man, my son's graduating tomorrow in San Antonio at 6 a.m. from the Air Force Academy. And they get up and they do this run and it's this really iconic thing.

8:41Man, and I'm going to miss it. And you could see he had tears in his eyes. Yeah, and it was heartbreaking. He had a shirt on that he had made for his son. Yeah, it was so sad that he wasn't going to be able to make it. And I think the perspective there is, I mean, that's like, as we talk about perspective, that's like a really tough, shitty situation. Yeah. And I'm trying to wrap my head around, like, if the roles were reversed, how you reframe that. Because that was really hard. And that isn't where I was, like, going with the whole perspective thing initially. but but no but I do think this though in those moments right like I do think because we don't know because all we all we got to do is encounter him for two minutes from there though we just have to hope his power of perspective takes over something there will be some silver lining somewhere everything happens for a reason like maybe it'll change him in some way maybe like I don't know or maybe he maybe him and his son will take a trip because he missed it you know maybe it'll empower him to take his son somewhere.

9:54But I'm actually going to push back on here. I think like oftentimes we can shift our perspective. And I think in our situation, we are very fortunate where there was a lot of positive that we could find in the flight getting canceled. But I think where we also got to be honest is sometimes life punches you in the face and things suck. and and i think that we unfortunately saw someone get punched in the face and in a sin who was who literally went through the same cancellation that that we did and and and i think in those situations it is a lot harder to find perspective but yes i do hope that he you know finds other ways to live that to live out you know the moments that that he missed so let me ask you this is it toxic positivity do you think to to then go here with it of like okay so if you go back to your three stone cutters yeah right the first guy who says i'm cutting stone probably doesn't want to be their cutting stone but the other guy that says i'm building a cathedral.

11:10He's also cutting stone, right? Like, do you think there's such thing as in this scenario with this guy, like we'll call him the guy in the green shirt because he had this green shirt on with his son's initials that he had ironed on. It was really, really upsetting. But it was just a precious story. He was so proud. He was so proud. He was so proud of his son. Like, do you think then it's

11:35should, do you recommend or I don't know if recommend is the right word, but do you think he then goes like, okay, I'm thankful that like I get to call my son and I will see my son. Like, is that toxic positivity or is it okay just to be like, no, I'm just upset that I missed it. Like, I'm so upset. That's what I'm saying is like, I think sometimes you just got to like be honest. I've like, I just got punched in the face and like, it's really shitty. And I'm going to live in that shittiness for, you know, a certain period of time before, like I do move on and I do look for the positive perspective.

12:05But I think we got to remain honest. about what, like when things, when there is things to look forward to and then when there is things to be positive about versus like when there's not. So one thing - Like if we had a major event in Austin, if it was like Sid's wedding - Oh my God, if her bridal luncheon was the next morning? Yeah. Or if like - And like that would fucking suck. And we got it like - You gotta be honest about that. The point is like we had nothing, but we could have been frustrated because we'd spent so much time being like, we've been gone forever. The house is done. We're excited to get back.

12:44But how many times like on the way to a bachelor or bachelorette party, are you trying to arrive Thursday and you don't get there till Friday because there's like flight stuff. And it's like, that does suck. And one thing I like that you've taught me, okay, is just like the power of honest communication. And another example of this is yesterday, oh, somebody gave me a compliment. and I'm all like I always say if somebody says something bad about you somebody says something good about you like nothing changes right like it doesn't matter either way yeah and you said to me yesterday you're like listen while I'm all for that while we don't we don't celebrate the goods we don't celebrate the bads like I actually think it's like good to sit here for a second respect that's really cool do you remember that um at the car and sitting in the car at fuzzies i i unfortunately you know i'm the worst multitasker in the world and i kind of missed the first part of what you said but i heard the second part what were you multitasking because we're just sitting in these two chairs like what were you what was the other thing you were doing i was thinking about what the what the i was like we we've gone so off the um the walls on on the on the on what we thought we were going to talk about today and i was just thinking okay okay, what are we actually going to be?

13:59Was there anything that we were supposed to talk about on this episode that we need to get it back on? But that's why you're the lead on this because you can multitask and you can keep the train on the tracks. And when I try and keep the train on the tracks, the train just stops. No, the train just stops. But you just need to recognize that not only are you now, now my learning from today is not only are you a bad multitasker, you're not doing another task right now. I'm multi-thinking. Your own brain can distract you. I'm multi-thinking. That's a real problem for me. Yeah, I think the point I was trying to make to what we were saying yesterday is more so celebrating the small wins of life.

14:39Which I used to never do. I used to never let myself do it. That's an Alex Kost whole ordeal. This Alex Kost guy, he is Harrison's business partner. Best friend. He's your best friend. He's your first phone call. He's your everything. He's your other half. you the things he's taught you like celebrate small wins um there's a good restaurant in every city find it and go eat at it and enjoy it life should be spontaneous like he's taught you so many fun things that then i've by proxy gotten to experience he's like what's oklahoma's spot i should he's like there's got to be a spot that like there's nothing else like it i should it's your spot guys let's talk about cozy earth because you know i am obsessed with the bamboo sheets because they are temperature regulating and they give you, they're guaranteed to give you a comfortable night's sleep.

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17:10When you're choosing a paint color, you put up three to four to five paint swatches on the wall and you go see it in the morning, in the middle of the day, and in the evening because paint colors change over time. And so typically that's what I would have liked to have done is put up a couple of different paint samples. But we weren't home. And our neighbor was being the, he was serving as the general contractor. And he said, I need a paint color. And I said, we're just going to go with pure white by Sherwin-Williams. And we're just going to hope that that works. Because most of the time that's the paint color that worked.

17:39We walked back into this house. Pure white by Sherwin-Williams looked so good. So I have a couple things. One is I don't think we use pure white by Sherwin-Williams. And I only say that because when I was cleaning up the paint, I noticed it wasn't a Sherwin-Williams brand. They can go spin it and put it in anything. Okay. Okay. So I want to put some color on what happened because – Some white? No. Some white, yes. That's a joke. I thought you said some white. I did, like because of the white paint color. Oh, not light. So just like – I don't know if we want to call them Mrs. by me. So what I didn't know we needed was I didn't know we needed a carpenter to like re-put the things on the bottom of the wall.

18:28Floorboard. The floorboards. No, not – is that floorboards? Yeah. I don't think it's floorboards. The moldings. Crown molding. The crown moldings. On the bottom though? I think it's called the floorboard on the bottom and the crown mowing on the top. Okay. Well, I didn't know that after we did the wood floors, we needed a guy to do that. And I didn't know that in our current bedroom, one wall was white and one wall was gray. And I also didn't know that we were going to need to paint the first things that I was talking about. So I didn't know we needed a carpenter. I didn't know we needed a painter for two different jobs.

18:59And I knew we just like were at the end. Things were taking longer and we were gone. and neighbor t i mean the way he stepped he was at our house every single day that we were gone we used his painter frank loved him who i i do want to like start a list i don't know if we should and jules you can tell us this terrible idea of like just like recommended people like if you want a painter in austin here's frank if you want a floor guy in austin here's royce just so we can send these these guys business because like they've done awesome jobs somebody texts us and says hey who's your painter we just we refer him okay of course we refer him okay maybe the dm the two parents account because i i'm so bad at looking at my messages um and he the carpenter his guy so like we were only going to be 75 done by the time we got back but But because – and my job was only going to be done 75 % effectively.

20:04But because of Neighbor T, the job has been done 100 % effectively. What a friend. Thank you. He doesn't listen. He's not going to hear the thank you. Because I'm very, very happy. I love how it all came together. He did such a good job. It just like really changed – to have a fresh coat of paint and to have like holes patched and to have the white on there and to have the molding. Like it just really brought it all together. And these wood floors look so good. So, so now, okay. So that, that part's done and we're like moving back upstairs. But the problem is like we had one day at home. We had 24 hours at home before we came here.

20:40So the clothes are kind of everywhere. Everything's kind of everywhere. Our bed's not in yet. We need to get our bedding. But the, the one room that just looks like how many times have you brought up? Well, Tate's playroom. Tate's playroom. But I think more thorough update, Tate's nursery is done. Done. The guest room is done. Yeah. It needs art hung and it's not done. And it needs to be. Close. But I don't think we get to call these things done yet. So actually no room is done. Tate's room needs a circle rug. Carpet. So it's not done. And the drapes need to be rehung. But like it's 90 % there.

21:20But you can't call that done. Okay. So Tate's room 90 % done. Guest room 90 % done. Um, bedroom a lot cause we need the bed and we need the built-ins. We're meeting the built-in people today. Yeah. Three o 'clock. Um, and you know, you're not going to be there for that. No, we are. What time do we land? Two 13. Okay. We will be there for that. Wow. Yeah. And if not, I got a neighbor. He's such a good friend. Oh my goodness. I love that man. Um, I was going to make a joke and say, Maybe I should kiss him on the lips in reference to – A callback to last week's episode. A callback to last week's episode, but we won't.

22:00But where we were going – Bedroom is – Tate's playroom. Tate's playroom. Okay. You – like I think we should rarely use the term 10 out of 10 because I think it needs to be held for like when people in life – When things are tense. Or restaurants in life nail it or cities nail it. You don't want to give out 10 out of 10 too often. But you got to give them. You got to give them. you've done you've done a 10 out of 10 on this room the furniture that you ordered is it's it's this like cushion furniture it was gifted by house of noah thank you house of noah that looks great but is fully childproof so like the coffee table's childproof the side tables are childproof the couch is because it's all cushions there's nothing sharp in the room the mat it and it just like it looks great and it's fully functional and i just see how like she is going to have hours upon hours upon hours of joy in that room we are and it looks great the art oh the art is so great uh needed to be my what it needed to be was a happy magical room and we knew because we had said this is going to be our playroom we're going to dedicate a room in the house to be the playroom.

23:19And then I just thought to myself, well, if we're going to do that, if we're going to do it, then we're going to do it the right way. And I just wanted to take that room over. And I wanted, I, I realized this also about myself being home. Um, because my mom, whenever I was, I was in eighth grade when we moved into this house that my parents live in now. And I remember my mom said, you can pick out your wallpaper in your, in your bathroom. And they showed me a bunch of different wallpapers. And I picked this one that's like pink. pink I put it on my Instagram story it's my favorite thing in the house still till this day it's pink with like hand-painted flowers on it I don't think they're hand-painted at all they look I'm just saying they don't look screen printed they look like painted and they're blue and then in my closet I don't know if you notice behind all my walls I have it painted hot pink and I realized what motherhood's brought me back to is like I've always loved pink I've always loved flowers I've always loved bright and that's like it reminds me I was standing in my bathroom this morning and I was thinking this reminds me so much of Tate's playroom now that's awesome and I know I'll never get sick of it because like you know 15 years later I'm still not sick of 20 years later I'm still not sick of my bathroom amazing should we talk through what like the playroom is good is and what we're gonna have in there well we should talk through what we're gonna do with that one wall which we have different ideas for okay so what we have so So we have the really comfy, cool furniture.

24:44And then we ordered a little table to come where her and – do we say the other baby's name or no? We do Winnie. Where her and Winnie can sit and draw. They can't draw yet, but where they'll eventually be able to draw. But they'll be able to like sit and pound the table. Pat, pat, pat. Pat, pat, pats. We have the playpen coming. and then my grand idea for one of the open walls is I want to build a little rock climbing wall up there so they can just like do a little crawling I saw an Instagram video of this like little kid who is 10 months old climbing up the wall that kid was 10 months old yeah oh yeah and so the dad will be doing that at 10 months but at a point in the future it's like have and just Yeah, having this be the ultimate playroom.

25:32And then I want to do a felt wall because somebody commented on TikTok like you need – you should do a felt wall. And I had this flashback and I thought I used to have a felt board. I used to have like a – you know, like an equivalent to a wipe off board but it was felt. And I had these little felt shapes and animals and things and I would put them on there and I would take them off and it was like a really magical memory. which reminds me, okay, one thing my cousin was talking to me about is like a childhood memory. Like how when you're a child, your takeaway when you're older is so much different.

26:07So for example, when we were all over at my parents' house yesterday, her son Sawyer was like, oh, I've been here just like so many times. And Jamie was like, yeah, like if, you know, if your grandma couldn't watch you and your dad and I, if we all were busy, yeah, you would come to aunt Kim's house. And he was like, I was here all the time. And she was like, no, you weren't. And she was like, it's so funny how like kids can remember things and it can seem so big to them, but to the adults, it's different. Another example she used was like one time, um, I think it was her. She had like an IV put in her as a kid and because she had like the flu or something, but the way like she remembered it was like her arm was almost sliced off like because to you because to you it feels so big but it's like that's your child memory totally and so that when my mom set out some of my baby stuff there was a felt board there and I remember thinking or no there was a cash register I remember thinking that this cash register was the equivalent of like checking out at Walmart like it had every single thing to it and then I saw out the other day and I'm like, it was just a little cash register.

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28:26So, well, that's what I'm thinking about with this rock climbing wall is to us, it's going to be, you know, 12 pegs on the wall to her she if she remembers it she will be like i had a whole rock climbing what do you call it well i don't know it's a rock climbing wall do you know in college rock climbing gym in college me and nugget um who i reference a lot she's my best friend we were roommates we did everything together there was in norman oklahoma there was a rock climbing center that opened up and it was before spring break and we're like we're gonna get in shape and we're gonna go join the rock climbing game we went one time and it is so much harder than I ever thought Janu's gonna use the rock climbing wall more than uh Tate and Winnie you neighbor T he will he's just gonna be like alright he's that type of guy are you gonna use pink pegs no you make him traditional colors I've been thinking about this I've been thinking about this I don't know we'll have to talk about it we have to see if pink ones even exist I'm sure they do because we could just paint them I I think that for the room pink is great I think we're going a little pink heavy I think baby number two comes do we want or do we want and it's a boy how many changes are we going to need to make to the room if it's a boy we just are going to just swap out one couch for blue and then they'll be like it'll be both okay let me what's your favorite part of the house right now her room like in thinking about going back like as we it's like work's done we've been on the road we're excited to go home um the main thing is like waking up and putting bubber in her playroom yeah because it used to be a guest bedroom and so we and we can't okay we can't set bubber on beds anymore or anything like that because she's getting to be mobile and so it's perfect timing that we have the playroom and we're going to just get one of those little the baby gate literally arrives today that's like the two things i'm looking forward to getting home to most is home cooked meals and um and bumper's room i'm overeating out do you know it makes me wonder how i d i truly think part of the reason i was so sick while i was pregnant is because we ate out every day for six months.

30:52I think it made a big difference. Yeah, I really, truly do. Okay. So, so speaking of travel this week, we're going to talk about, because we get so many questions about like traveling with Tate and how Harrison typed out how many flights she's been on, on the way here. And what's the answer? She's been on a lot of flights because we've been to quite a few different, different places. The only repeat city is, I think, Oklahoma City.

31:23Flown to. Yeah, I guess so. New York, Park City, Hawaii, Vancouver, LA, San Francisco. Charleston. Charleston. Miami. Miami. Bubba loves to travel. I know how ridiculous it is that this job has been to so many places. But. But that's the way we chose to do it. It's the way we chose to do it. Because like one thing that we heard a lot from other parents is travel as much as you can over the first 12 months. Because when they're one and two, it's a heck of a lot harder to travel. And we've been very fortunate that she's enjoyed being in different cities and is very good on airplanes. I'm down a mark per our last week's episode that is a dad break this kid is a legendary flyer she's a good flyer we're lucky with that super lucky and here's the thing I think flying with a baby goes like this zero to three months easy because they essentially sleep the whole time three to six months I still thought was very easy six to nine months put up your laptop forget it you are on that flight it is play play play play hold I mean you're passing her back and forth you want a diet coke forget it she needs diet coke's getting spilled but that to me is not it's an I would only edit I would make I don't think that's as much six to nine months I think that's very much like month like nine maybe month eight is when they start is when like we're on full full play duty I may make a proposal for a new segment which is parent brag of the week so you can do one so i can just like do one and own the parent brag um but i but we didn't it's not a brag because like but we're bragging about her not about us i know like i just i like i think it's so cool i said like that this child like she'll just love to sit there and like look at the clouds or just like look at the people around her yeah but it is like a disneyland for her at this moment yeah but we didn't like do anything you know what i mean like that just had she just happened to like the flying situation yeah she doesn't like car sitting she doesn't like car seats yeah exactly driving not her thing so like we just got lucky on that but i do think like she's our child we like to fly she likes to fly um so long story short hold on one thing that one thing that breaks my heart okay her favorite thing to do on the airplane, she's realized if she puts her head between the two seats behind, there's going to be a person and that person's going to be smiling and waving back at her.

34:08And what has happened for the first time ever is she put her head between the seats and looked at the person behind her and smiled and they looked at her and they looked down and it broke my heart and I wanted to cry because she, they, my mom always said, baby's coming to the world, looking for somebody, looking for them. And when she's looking around the airport at all these people and they look back at her and smile and wave she gets so excited that they noticed her and when the person behind on the air on the airplane yesterday just put their headphones in and looked down it broke my heart because she just wants to be seen but she kept going back she like didn't like it was so she like didn't like understand that they like she like kept going back and like claps and looking and they just they weren't engaging and so i think the first time somebody hurts her feelings i think i will cry i'm pretty sure i'll cry um i know i'll cry okay i'm gonna i'm gonna veer us back okay get us back on the track so um the long story short is we have done an insane amount of traveling with our daughter wait i have a question for you and we've had a black yeah would would we have done this much travel if she didn't travel well No, not a chance.

35:22I mean, that's the missing piece here. That's where I was going. We've had so much fun traveling with her. She's been such a joy while we've gone on these trips that it's not like these were booked nine months in advance. Everything's kind of booked one to two weeks in advance because we're having such fun experiences and we're very fortunate in many ways and we recognize that isn't the case with most. and like it's very much the luck of the draw. But yeah, she loves to – she's an adventurous kid. Well, and we have flexible work schedules and like travel for work. And so being able to bring her with us is – like some of my favorite memories, I think about Miami.

36:04I think about her playing in the sand for the first time. I think about her in Napa where we just did 5 o 'clock dinners every night and brought her and she ate with us and clapped by the fire pits. So those moments like bring me a lot of joy. And yeah, I think that for sure, if she didn't love the travel, she didn't love airplanes, we wouldn't do it. Yeah. But the other thing I want to say is the more we travel, because it used to really overwhelm me. The more we travel, the more I know like how to pack my travel back. So we're going to share with you guys some of our travel tips. Yeah. I think very much are things we've learned while traveling with a baby.