Playground etiquette, the “convenience tax” & is Myspace actually coming back?!

28:22In a train, are you like, just like glued to your seat the whole time? Oh, what? It's similar to what, a flight? Yeah, you don't grasp how quick you're going. The same way that I feel like on a normal train, you don't grasp how quick you're going. That's true. Although I don't think you're going that fast on a normal train. I just think that there's no other cars around you. When you go into a tunnel, you're able to grasp how fast you're going, I think. Are we going to train from D.C. to New York? We're going to New York for the U.S. Open. but before that Harrison has a high rocks in DC and so we were like we'll take Bubber on the choo choo train from DC to New York but yesterday in the car did you hear what she said Tate airplane I was like no well my mom opened up a can of worms with her because I'm not sure if you heard this yesterday but when my mom before she was leaving she had her bags and she said she's like okay like bye bye Tate and your grandma goes on airplane and Tate just airplane airplane take on airplane take on airplane and like my mom didn't realize that like now when she hears the word that someone's going on an airplane like she wants on the airplane yeah yeah and she's used to going with us yeah because what we what tate hasn't had a lot of is us leaving for the airplane with our suitcases without her we always bring her so i think we would break her heart into a million little pieces if we said mama dada airplane not for Tate.

29:56That would really be, that would be a sad day for her. Well, I guess tomorrow she won't see me go because I'm leaving in the morning and coming back in the afternoon. You're just going to hop, escape and a jump over to LA and come back, aren't you? Quick little unexpected meeting. I think I'm excited for you, but you do know, feel free to spend the night. He doesn't want to, he wants to come home. All right. So I was going to talk about something in my book, but I've realized we need to discuss. Okay. So Harrison's mom was in town and she was reading Calamity Club. And I'm like, I'm reading Calamity Club.

30:33Then we realized, then she was like, I need to go to the bookstore to buy yesteryear. I'm like, I have yesteryear upstairs so you can have it. She texted me this morning. This is the best book I've ever read. Okay. It's called Nightingale. I went back and I checked my text messages. It's the book Tony told me. She's like, if you have not read Nightingale, it's the best book. So bring it together on what are... Kathy lives in Vancouver, okay? She's a grandma. We are living here in Austin, okay? Nori Minich, Cleveland, Ohio. Why are we all reading the same books? Like, we don't have any overlap.

31:10We have some overlap, I guess, but like... Here's what's so surprising to me is I get why we all watch the same shows because Netflix controls the distribution of those shows. So when we all sign into our Netflix accounts, whether that's in Cleveland, Vancouver, New York, if Netflix decides they want to sponsor, promote Stranger Things, we're all seeing that, and then that develops the flywheel of word of mouth. Of course. But what I don't understand and what I want to understand is who is controlling that distribution of books that actually is getting it in front of all of these different groups of people.

31:48And I get there's the publishing houses, like the Penguins or whoever. Random House. Is it Penguin? Penguin Random House, yeah. Okay. But that's the back end. That's like the film production people. Like what is it that's actually putting it – how is that awareness component happening? So the other thing that's interesting about shows is like if Jennifer Aniston's in it, you want to watch it because you love Jennifer Aniston. Yes. But in Calamity Club, Birdie, we don't know Birdie. We don't have a clue. She's fictional. Like what? And we also don't get commercials for it. But what I also find interesting, so let's take Calamity Club, Yesteryear's Strangers and Theo of Golden.

32:32Those would be like the top, most topical books in my orbit right now. And so the question is, how did they become top of mind with different people in different cities that are different demographics? Yes, and none of them are on Reese's Book Club. What is that dynamic? Because Reese, I think, controls a lot of - Reese Witherspoon. Laura Jean. Reese pieces. Reese Witherspoon. Reese Witherspoon. Real name or fake name? Laura Jean Witherspoon. Yeah, our girl. So Reese is just made up. You know this. We talked about this last week. I know. oh i was like what um okay so so they're not oprah is talking a lot about calamity club she loved it she read it and loved it but read none of these are on reese's book club so i was i was reading about recommendation loops uh-huh where there's thousands of books that launch a day yeah but i feel like jolt you have something to say that tell us well we were talking about this last night and i said i have to go to the source which is my mom of why does she think that all these books are popular because she's read all of these or she knows what they are because she's not like touching yesteryear that's not her vibe okay it's it's influencers it's books to grammars she called them okay and she said you and i know kathy's on instagram too but she said you follow a couple of books to grammars and then she gets all of her book recommendations from book influencers and penguin random house is probably sending out copies of yesteryear to all the top book influencers.

34:03Okay. And that's where it's coming from. That's really interesting. I just want to clarify, I was only on my phone because the pool guy was having issues getting on the Wi-Fi.

34:14The, well, it's funny because we talked about this and yesterday my mom and Alex, I believe, said, we don't think we're getting them from Instagram. So it feels... But I got Calamity Club from Instagram. Jade, I mean, it was just, I know her, but Jade was posting about it And finally, I was like, I'll read it. Like from in book talk really big. But like book talk to me has a connotation of like more like the books that I read. Not Calamity Club vibe. Yeah. But books to grammars. But I also get how you could not follow these people, but they come up with your algorithm and it like plants to see it in your head and you see two or three.

34:53It's like, oh, I guess I'll read that. Well, and it plants the seed to like your most book heavy friend. And then I would say the most word of mouth marketing that we have in 2026 is books. Agreed. That's the main thing you're getting recs on from your friends. That's a number one conversation in my friend group. And I think it's word of mouth marketing and influencing. I also think that's what it infiltrates the group through a Nori, the one person that's the most online following a book influencer. and then people then she spreads her tentacles and says to everyone all right we're gonna read calamity club yeah okay okay i was gonna say that the tipping point was being caused by airport distribution that's what but i i like i like your guys your guys take on this more i was gonna i was thinking like if you get in the airport that's where like the flywheel starts but But I definitely think that.

35:53I'll say this. In the world of AI. The book fluencers. I'm really. Like I am obsessed with reading right now. And it's refreshing. It's so. It's one of the most refreshing things I can do right now. And are you combo reading? Yeah. I love these voices on Calamity Club. What does combo reading mean? All book and all audio. Two different books or the same book? Same book. So she's doing some listening. Some reading. Okay. difficult because is audiobook telling me where my what page i'm on because i've been googling it i'm like i'm 51 i'm on i'm at 48 whatever you know what page am i on and then it's like you're on page 300 and i'm like thank you that's funny no it doesn't yeah it doesn't doesn't let me know now i did hear if you do audiobook and you have a kindle they sync oh i'm very into that i was gonna say my tip for like getting through school reading like i obviously love to read now i read on a physical book for my fan fiction and i listened to audiobooks but i did both like at the same time it really helps with comprehension especially for school stuff you listen and read at the same time so you're listening to it reading in your head and you're looking at it on the page i this could solve my reading my reading problem because too often i listen to a book and i zone up yeah i read to a book and i zone up yeah so i just i was a really slow reader growing up and It really helped me get through it in a good way.

37:20What a tip from Jules. Yeah. That's an excellent tip. Yeah. What a tip from Jules. All right. So let's discuss, let's do like a little, like a light brush upon a kid topic, which is that of a playground talker. This is a big observation I had at the, I guess, why don't we add a layer to it? We went to what is called a European play zone. Yes. Indigo play. Oh. No. It's at Austin's first, will you actually Google what it says? I think it's at Austin's first European style playground. Now, I'll tell you. Very fun for the kids. Not fun, depressing in fact for the parents. A real lack of mm for the parents.

38:06Ambience. I think there's a huge opportunity there. Like they had, do you want me to go? I just want to make sure you touch on how incredible it was for the kids. Yeah. And that was the week. That was such a it was like. So you walk in on the left. They've got a section for kids zero to three years old. Zero to three months. Zero to three years old. There's the tummy crawlers. Oh, I actually didn't see that. Yeah, because we have Rocky. OK, so they had a tummy crawler section, but then they had a section for kids under three, which like had a lot of just cushion oriented play areas. Then they had a fake little city with like a fire truck and a coffee shop and a vet.

38:52And doors that swing open and close like awesome. And then they had like this mega. I took a photo of it, Joel, so I can I can send it to you like a mega like playpen castle thing. But like mega. With just like slides and these, you know, you climbing from level to level. It was. And parents could go in. We were up there. They have like the Taj Mahal up there. They had a bottle of champagne in Paris. Like they're all cushioned though. It was so well done and so clean. 10 out of 10 for kids. But zero attention on making it like enjoyable for parents, which I thought was a huge missed opportunity.

39:31Literally just picnic tables and a white, very sterile. oh so it just there was just nothing nothing you could only just sit there well they had they they did have an area where you could buy food it was all packaged and they there was it was very it it had so much room for improvement it was crazy okay because i think you want to obviously the most important thing is to create a place the kids love right but you also want to create a place that when the kids are having fun, the parents are enjoying themselves too. Like that's where you're ultimately just going to get the most frequent visitation.

40:10Totally. And so it goes back to the point that we talked about like several, several episodes ago where like we need the new age Chuck E. Cheese, where it's unbelievable for kids and parents like being there as well. You guys know we've started calling Tate our little scientist because she is deeply committed to the cause of, well, research. And I know a lot of kids are too. And her current project is what happens if she takes this cup and puts juice in it and then puts it upside down into this cup. And then sometimes what happens if there's not even a cup there, okay? And the juice goes upside down on the rug every time.

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41:55It is funny though. It has to be unbelievable for kids and like build it. They will come. Yes. Do you see what I'm saying? Because like, I will go back to Indigo play and I'll just take my book and like, well, actually we Tate's kind of at the age where she needs to be watched. We were doing a lot of playing as well. Like we were going down the slide. It was like, but that was really fun. But when she's five like i will take my book i'm going no matter what the kids love but in the in the in the toys in the in the play uh in the mock city area okay she wanted to be in there by herself versus in like the palace thing we needed to be in there with her right and um but i think it's very much like because indigo doesn't nail the parent side of things the parents are generally going to be looking for like it's when going to indigo comes up it's like well should we go to indigo or is there someone or should we try like a new place yeah yeah i agree with that you know what i'm saying yes totally versus like it becoming the the the no-brainer the thing to do or can we go to indigo for three hours or is it like we can only be there for 45 minutes we were there for an hour whereas if there was more going on there you could be there for you could be there all day yeah tate didn't want to leave and nailing the food and beverage piece of it is critical but sorry on tate not wanting to leave tate we needed to leave because it was her bedtime yeah but she like didn't want to leave yeah she was like i we would have obviously stayed there for as long as no but that's my point like we could go for a really long time because the way that they did it they designed it was really awesome yeah um so playground talker is your observation so you share yeah you're you're a very good playground talker so i feel like there's two types of parents there's parents that are on the playground and they're interacting with both other parents and other kids and then there's parents that just kind of like sit back and and are more hands-off in all in all aspects and like i notice and i notice it that this place you're in there and you know you'll see a kid at the fire truck with tate and you'll turn to the mom and say, hi, like I'm Alex, what's your name?

44:09And what's your kid's name? And then she'll say William. And then you'll be like, all right, Tate, this is William. How old? Tate, William's two years old. And you're doing a lot of social coordination on there. And I'm very much like sitting back. And so you're at, yeah. Yeah. And I think it's very good what you do. Like I wish I did more of it. Well, no, here's the thing though. We don't need two, one couple does not need two playground talkers because that would be overkill. Like imagine you're in there and you're like, Tate, this is William. And I'm like, hi to the model. They didn't beg that couple is too much.

44:40Like I, what I love about our dynamic is like, you're chilling, you're interacting with Tate, your eyes are on tape, but like you are not getting in there finding out William's name and introducing him. Why I like to do it is because I want to model for Tate. Like I try to say hi to everybody when I, when I'm with her in general, I do. But if someone's holding the door for you, we're saying hi to them. For sure. And I want her to know on the playground too, like we can say hi to the other kids and ask them their name and talk to them and then welcome them so I try to get in there and do a bit of that with her just as I would want her to to age and do the same thing but I agree like Harrison I'm truly mortified by imagining us both doing that I did see a video last night about how there's an epidemic of two things and it's people not introducing themselves and people not introducing each other essentially like if you if we walk somewhere and you don't say, this is Jules, there's an epidemic of that going on in society.

45:39I completely agree. And I watched it happen at the gym the other day. There was this one girl, there's a couple of girls that are always at the gym. And they're like, you know, 20 something, and they're very fit. And like, they love being at the gym and they've got a little social circle going on. And I watched two girls go up to this one girl and two of those girls knew each other. So the girl on the leg press knew one of the other girls that walked up. They hugged, they interacted and the other girl just stood there because nobody entered like her friend didn't introduce her but the girl on the leg press didn't say hi i'm taylor yeah and i just was like guys have we lost the plot of like one of you has to say hi i'm alex i i i i have this is i'm not aware of this of this what what do we call it an epidemic yeah it's an epidemic of people not introducing themselves or introducing their friends i'm a huge introducer of myself and other people and one thing that i love to do and that i love i love doing it and i love when it's done to me is i'll do the reintroduction so if i've met someone once and it was in passing but i remember them i'll like i'll contextualize it and just like hey uh like so it it happened at uh when we were touring that building the other day there was a guy there and i said uh hey man good to see you again uh my name's harrison uh if you don't remember we briefly interacted at the world cup game i love it like and then the best you like i don't know whether or not he he remembered like He remembered that, but the warmth around the interaction is just so much higher.

47:24Yes, because - And I always re-give my name. Yes, and I love when somebody's like, hi, Alex Taylor, Nikki's friend. I'm like, yes, yes, thank you. Because we're all, and I do the same thing, and I think it's very, very, very helpful. It takes a level of confidence, though, when interacting with people at our age, to hop in and say your name or introduce yourself or just - I learned that from this guy named Corey Williams who I used to work with. He would always do it. I think it's. Whenever he'd get in a room, he would always let people. If it was one or if they'd only met one or twice, he'd always just lay down the context.

48:00For me, nothing frustrates me more than when someone I have met before, like, either acts like they've never met me before or doesn't acknowledge that they've met me before. So I get ahead of it by doing exactly what you guys said. I get ahead of it because I feel so awkward if like we never acknowledge that we've met before. And maybe they truly forgot. But sometimes people do forget. Yeah. And that's why if you do forget, I think it's on the person who remembers to set the stage. Yeah. But nothing's more awkward than when like you're like, I know you and you know me. And like, why have we not acknowledged it?

48:34Get ahead of it. Okay. So I'll say this. And I'll say I'll never let that happen if I remember. Agree. And Jules is saying the same thing. like you're just getting ahead of it like yeah hey Alex we didn't know each other we met here I think so I one of my stronger suits in life used to be remembering people's names you're still the best of anyone I know but yesterday like we went we were looking at this house on our street because it's for sale and we were just like we're gonna go look at it and the realtor was outside his name was Ben we went to no it wasn't it was Dylan see when we went to leave I was like it's Ben right and he's like it's Dylan and I'm like are you kidding well I I actually jumped in and said, it's Dylan.

49:10I always. Never happens. A rarity. And I'm like, and now if I see him again, I'm like, I don't know if I'm going to remember Dylan. You know? And it's like, I used to always remember it. And I would have been like, hey, we saw you at that house. So we got to give people grace if they're, especially this day and age, I'm like, I have half a brain. And I can't remember all the people I used to be able to remember. I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about this, but I think I can. Oh. A car tells you so much about somebody. He had my man, Dylan. He had like a super car. Like it looked, it looked, when we were walking up, I was like, and Dylan's young.

49:53He had on his cool Nikes. He had on like painter's pants. He had his watch. He had the whole thing going on. It like looked like a race car. Like a future modernistic race car. It had like some blue on it. is a BMW, like one of those spaceship looking BMWs with those white and blue. Oh. Now, it's a great segue into our Spider-Man car. Mm. But, yeah, Dylan, we were walking up and I thought, like, Dylan was one person and then I saw his car and in my mind, I was like, wait, what? Wait. Is it going to the racetrack? Hold on, buddy. No, but I liked it. Like, I always think how cute it is people go to the dealership and they say, I'll take that one.

50:30It just told you a lot about it. I'm like, that guy loves his cars. Mm-hmm. And you know that guy drives his car just very fast. Yes. Yes. That's funny. Nothing to do with the price of the car. Everything to do with... I think that was an expensive car. No, no, no. I'm just saying it could have been any car with a racing stripe down it and it would have had the same vibe. Yeah. You know what I mean? It was the fact that that is something that he values. Now, we will just do a little segue here into the Spider-Man BMW. This is appalling. is that like you said a space pollen like appalling like it's appalling pollen that gives you allergies this is appalling appalling i don't know if this is rubbing you the as as i don't know what it is okay so bmw and spider-man did a partnership okay and if you own a bmw car when you turn on the bmw it plays a spider-man ad i hate it like on the screen so you have to watch shit i would go return my car and i'd say you don't get to do this to me i would return my car i would return that that at no you are not infiltrating the area with spider-man like no every bmw i i well i assume not everyone i assume they need to be part of like the newer models it was every bmw made after 2020 um what if i turned my car on and an ad of any kind came on i would just be like this is not ad space to be sold somebody take this away i already bought the car i get to pick the ad somebody take that my car yeah like you don't get the ad until you start like consuming the product that yes this is no this is the equivalent of every tv popping on and just doing a spider-man ad because you bought a frame tv now you get this ad yes you need to consume the content before you watch the ad no you need to be like when i get in my car that's a car that i own that's my little area with i get to bluetooth too and i get to pick what goes on Totally.

52:42And you get to pick, are you watching ad-forward content? Are you doing nothing? Yeah. Are you doing ad-freak? What if you were a sleeping baby? I said it was appalling. It's appalling. It was just a complete violation of private property rights. I'm shocked that BMW was like, yeah, Spider-Man, we will do it, Spider-Man. We're down. This also is one of those things that in the boardroom makes so much sense and then in reality doesn't make any sense in the world. When did that make sense in the boardroom? Who was like, yes, let's put ads on everyone's screen. Well, what they must have paid for that, that's where the mismatch has to, that's where it must not add up for BMW.

53:25Because the consumer disruption that you're giving, that couldn't move the needle from BMW's P &O. I like need to know now. I would assume they're getting more cars returned than they are like purchased. like who's gonna who's gonna be like i'll buy a bmw on the off chance that they serve me a spider-man ad yeah so they're not gonna get any uptick in sales why would they do it and you definitely have to pay them yeah of course but like what's the number you definitely had we when you buy a bmw you definitely had to have signed something that said that that was okay but but like why would you ever sign that stuff and we're getting cars it's swipe up sign swipe up sign.

54:04But now some car needs to come out and be like, it needs to be a competitor. Audi needs to be like, we're never going to serve you a Spider-Man ad. I would lose my mind. I think I would just drive to the dealership and do something about it. Never let that happen to me again. I'm just shocked. I don't know. I'm not really going to see the movie. So this is on this, though. Of all the brands I thought might bombard with an with an in-car ad screen, I had BMW pretty dang low on my list. This seems the opposite of luxury and performance. I agree. Now, on this - Unless it was a clear opt-in where it's like, hey, we'll take a hundred bucks off your monthly car payment.

54:54If every time you turn it on, we get to feed you an ad. Now you're talking. I love that idea. Yeah. Right. And then it's in the consumer's choice. And there's probably actually a huge opportunity in that. But you can't force it on someone. I totally agree. Now, I think a lot of people would opt in and that. Now, cars could get into some big sale. You're on to something there, H. Thank you. That's good. And are you opting in or out of that? I'm going to have to opt out because my car is my safe space. It's my area. I can't be getting ads. You're telling me, because eventually what's going to happen here is on my TV or in my house, it's going to say, hi, we're a smart house.

55:34You can opt in and take$1 ,000 off your mortgage a year if you listen to ads, and then it's just going to be constant ads, and I can't be having that. Yeah. I think to each their own. Well, are you opting in or out? On the car piece, here's what I'm going to do right now. I'm going to transition. No, I already have the transition. Are you going to convenience tax? Yeah. Because this sounds like a convenience. This ties into a convenience tax. It was a tough call between if we were going to go to convenience tax from there or speaking of collabs, if we were going to go to the fast fashion era that CPG is entering.

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58:09So for example, probably the most relevant convenience tax of our generation, like my parents would never is buy cut fruit because it's so, it's the same fruit. In fact, I think you get less fruit. Like if you buy a whole pineapple, you're getting a lot more pineapple than you are in that little package, but they've priced the package of the cut fruit like three times as much. Yeah. And we were guilty of this on the weekend when we bought pre-cut watermelon. Because there's nothing worse than cutting a watermelon. The watermelon juice is everywhere. And I'm not very good at cutting watermelon.

58:39We bought it. My mom was this. And I explicitly stated, I was like, we're getting the pre-cut. Pre-cut. But do you know where it's crazy? The grapes. They have literal bagged grapes, which you just have to pick them off. They have put in a little canister grapes. But I love like pre-cut, pre-washed. a love of pre-washed Jules, but you don't need to wash watermelon. Grapes is ridiculous. Grapes is ridiculous. Because I like picking the grapes off. Grapes is ridiculous. And they never actually last as long in that. Do you know what else, though? You don't need to wash pineapple. And you don't need to wash kiwi.

59:17And where it's really getting crazy is they'll do a mixed berries for, you know,$14. It's like, just buy the blueberries and the raspberries and the strawberry. The mixed berries are crazy. What? I'm all for the mixed berries. But just mix your own berries. Why don't you buy your own berries? Because they're pre-washed. That is... Okay, you've lost me. And are they even? You've lost me. Are they even pre-washed? Hopefully, they say they are. You're cut... Like, I get the pineapple. I get the watermelon. I buy the pre-cut pineapple and the pre-cut watermelon. They are messy and they are, as Alex said, hard to cut.

59:54They're hard to cut. berries are berries there's no work that's done you have to wash them but for me it's like it's the difference between like but you hold on berry no no berry cartons have holes in the bottom so you can just open the top and wash it in in the freaking carton not in my house well you're taking them out oh like my mother nori minich she is how i was taught to wash fruit is that you get out a big bowl and you put the fruit in the bowl and you put white vinegar in the bowl and you let them soak and then you put them in the colander and rinse them off like there's a lot of steps that go on she's really eating fruit really washing fruit and so like I'm it's maybe it's childhood trauma I don't know that I need pre-cut pre-wash fruit okay I can't deal with it myself at our house the way we were doing a little spray a little wash keep it in the carton put a paper towel so the stat is our generation spends three thousand dollars a year on convenience tax items a la um pre-cut fruit delivery for food and so on and so forth yeah so So this conversation goes to, is it worth it, is it not?

1:01:13Pre-cut fruit, half yes, half no, depending on the fruit. Totally fruit dependent. I'm a full yes. Full yes. Totally fruit dependent. Bagged salad kits. They are marked way higher than actual lettuce. And I'm going to call, although, I mean, we'd never buy them in this climate, but I'm going to call them not worth it at all. The reason why they're not worth it for me is the stuff in them, half the time, I don't want that stuff. Right. I also think that just like you open them and they're instantly smell. They smell. Your other piece, although here's what I'll say. When I was single, I actually, and my fridge wasn't like, and kitchen wasn't fully stocked.

1:01:57There was a much greater use for those bags than now where like I can make a salad. Yeah. The salad. Like if I buy the iceberg lettuce, like we have almonds and carrots and tomatoes that I can draw from because we grocery shop. But when it was just me, like I wouldn't, if I bought the lettuce, I'd have to buy the tomatoes and then the pricing wouldn't make sense. So that, that was something that it did make sense for me at a time. Yeah, that, that's fair. Now we do. And I, and I just like all of our dressings at home. Like you buy salad dressings and they last. Yes. But, but not when it was just me.

1:02:32Closer parking spots. I don't know if this is in every city, but it is in Austin. And so there's this Park ATX app where you basically pay to park at all these spots. But they've started doing, I think it's$10 an hour. That's insane. To park closer. It's the closest parking spot. I think where it throws me off that I've seen separate from Park ATX is at the mall, outside of the big department stores, there are just like four to six spots that are like pay to park here. When the whole parking lot's free at the mall. I know what you're talking about now. Yes. at the domain at the regular mall yeah Barton Springs Mall has it we saw it that one day but Barton Springs Mall to me is I've never seen it full versus the domain the parking lot gets full so the domain sometimes like I'll pay for the spot because that's the only spot available you know what I'm saying I get what you're saying so at that point you're down to that or valet so is it worth it?

1:03:34or keep driving in circles yeah or we drive in a lot of circles there it's only worth it to me it's only worth it when the parking lot is full well it's you should do valet if you're going to be there for more than two hours I think the valet is$25 total at the domain there's a valet yeah there's two valets one by True Food and then there's another one now valet also speaking of convenience tax I see they have a sign that says you can park up front and that's more they'll leave your car there then you don't have to wait for them to go get it i mean truly they're selling anything these days that's oh yeah there's two valet prices yeah there's never worth it for me never worth it never ever worth it um you'll keep driving to find the spot yeah like example oh uh no never mind don't need to get into the example i i would park on a side straight or i love to park in the whole foods lot when everything around is paid like if i'm going the bars on six whole foods lot free pop in there buy something from whole foods good so that you're a whole foods customer good free parking but yeah but i refuse to pay refuse to pay i i'll pay 90 of the time not worth it i agree with that i agree with that and a lot of times too i want the like if i go to target i want the last parking spot because i like to fling my doors open every i Like everything open.

1:04:50I got all components open and we're putting car seats in and out. Did I send one? I just tried to look at my phone. I thought I came up with a really good one for this after the fact, but I'm not seeing it in the text. Amazon? Same day? No. Paying for late checkout on Amazon. Not late checkout. At a hotel? Yep. Paying. Okay. So hotels. Not all hotels, but some hotels have now said if you're going to stay, you know, till one o 'clock, then you got to pay a fee. if you're just, if it's just you and I traveling, not worth it. If it allows the kids, if we're traveling with the kids and allows them to nap there through nap time, totally worth it.

1:05:30I agree. Nap time in general on a travel day, worth it. Like when we were coming back from Atlanta, the place that we stayed at, they were gracious enough to give us a one 30 check checkout. And I told them, I was like, Hey, like, if you do this for us, the only reason why I'm asking is so our daughter can nap from 12 to 115 and we'll be out at 130. And they're like totally cool. I would be curious to know on travel days where are parents napping if they had to check out of a hotel? Like where do you nap? Well our game plan was for her to nap in the car. Right. Right. The car seat. Yeah. And that's not a quality nap though.

1:06:04No. That's a C minus of a nap. But like it does work. Alright. Disney. This is the one. Disney Lightning Lane. I've never been to Disney. I've been to Disney one time. I've never been to Disney with the kids. I'm excited to go from what I hear about this Lightning Lane I do think I would pay for it I don't know how much it costs I don't know anything about it I don't know anything about the Disney game I'm just preemptively saying probably I don't know anything about it but I'm probably going to want to do this this to me convenience wise I think is the definition P is a specialist on the matter is it worth it?

1:06:36$40 it's$40 okay not worth going to Disneyland if you don't buy it there we go that's P's take so that and that yeah that's P's take and I'm here to say I will likely buy that I would have assumed That was way more than$40. I would have thought it would have been more than$40. But think about that. Yeah, we're going to have to. So it adds up. At this point, that would be$4,$8,$12,$160 per day. I mean, that adds up. Yeah. I really want to remember the one I'm talking about. TaskRabbit? No. Okay. I don't think you sent one then. Well, I do think the update on this is that Amazon is now charging for same-day shipping.

1:07:07Can you tell us about that? It's kind of absurd. I have a thing on Amazon where it'll give me an earlier slot for$299. I don't do you have Prime? Yes but like it'll say alright it'll arrive tomorrow at some time tomorrow or it can arrive before 9am for$2.99 but if you spend over$25 it's free ooh you'd like 3 hour delivery for$4.99 or Prime free delivery on$25 qualifying items Okay, so it's when I'm spending less than$25 that gives me that option? Yeah, and you always just got to add something like paper towels. That's smart. I'm a big same-day delivery Amazon person. Me too, Jules. But I would never.

1:07:56If you made me pay$5 for it, never. Well, I'd be pretty mad about that, actually. I haven't had that yet because I guess all my orders are over it. But this maybe is an Austin privilege as well because we have all of the distribution center. Yeah, I mean, we're getting it within an hour. Yeah. Amazon in Austin is so good. It's so good. It's so good. But Austin is so techie. Like, we've got the drone delivery. We've got the cell. We've got the Waymos. We've got the new things that are self-driving testing here. We've got the flyings that are testing here. Did you guys see that Waymo and Uber ending that, like, exclusive partnership in Austin?

1:08:34Why? And so, well, you can just, like, order on the Waymo app now. Like, you can in every other city. and I think it's going to maybe make Waymo a little less expensive and you can always order a Waymo, which you can't do unless you pay for the extra Uber thing, right? And this is the Travis Kalanick. This is kind of what I talked about before. Uber CEO. Oh. So Uber CEO, back in 2016, he wanted Uber to build the autonomous vehicles themselves. He didn't want to be dependent on third parties. so he he was planning for this situation to not happen so he was a big visionary that guy that was my point so you like him you just like you gotta give credit where credit's due yeah I mean he built the company so yes and I I do think the company would be exponentially larger than it is today wow if he was still at the helm and where is he now he started a new company called Adams which just raised a whole heap of money and he's an entrepreneur that guy yeah and and it's a very confusing company how was his exit did he get any money he made more money he made enough money that him and his entire you know future generations of children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren and great-great-grandchildren will never have to work okay but he still is like he's still hungry for change so he's very focused right now on like building hardware applications for ai okay but they out did they out him yeah he got like he got voted he got fired in a very very aggressive way and and you're saying they should have kept him i'm saying like at the time they thought it was the right thing to do And do you think they now think it's not?

1:10:35I'd be very curious to hear the thoughts of those who did it. Okay. Interesting. There's a lot of dynamics that I'm not up to speed on that also I'm sure went into play. Interesting. Okay. Should we wrap up by talking about MySpace? Yes. Yes, we should. All right. So talk to us about MySpace because this was a morning brew topic that must have landed in your inbox. well I think it was a Twitter topic MySpace is apparently coming back and I'm all for it me too explain it to us in the TLDR well I think MySpace is planning to relaunch and I am so down with the simplified social media network

1:11:18yeah like I hope they come back and own like non dopamine oriented content yes that's what it is okay yeah non dopamine oriented content what I'm wondering Yeah, and you can just scroll somebody's page on a desktop. But you can't doom scroll. Correct. I'm looking for a non-doom scroll oriented social media network right now. Are they going to have the top friends? I never used MySpace. What? You could pick if you had four, eight. I never used it like religiously, so I couldn't tell you anything about it other than the general interface. I was 12 years old, like coding. you're like coding what the colors of the background look like and the music that's playing the song was huge and you have your top eight and it's really scandalous when you move someone out of your top eight like so it's a whole thing we had it you had so they literally would have you rank your friends and sydney was always like you know we were just thick as thieves right so she just it was easy for me with my number one spot because she had it and it was She was never, ever, ever moved.

1:12:24But sometimes other friends. I hate that. I know. I hate this ranking system. It was crazy. I would go home and be like, I'm closer to Katie. Now I'll move her up one that's a real life person. Like, literally. I'm sure they remember. I'll ask my high school room text. Yeah, I'm so out on that. You'd hang out with somebody for a weekend and move them up. And then you would, like, embed, like, GIFs off of Tumblr onto your. Yep. It was wild. And couldn't you leave comments? Like, hi, bestie. Love you so much. I hope you have a great week. Yeah, it was a lot. I don't even remember what the point of it was.

1:12:59I'm excited for something to come back when I have no idea how it actually works. No, no, no. MySpace could. This isn't for me to do. This is for somebody else to do. Okay. Somebody very, very smart like Travis. He could do it. MySpace could crush in this day and age. I just don't know how they would do it. But I know they could crush. And MySpace was just like about connecting with people. It wasn't about like having. I don't even know if you could have like. you could have friends. I don't think you had like followers or like, there was no reason to follow someone if you didn't know them. Yeah.

1:13:29And you would announce your relationship too, right? Yeah. Yeah. So I have to go in a relationship with you on MySpace. Okay. I'd love to. So you have to have a MySpace. Yeah. I plan to make one and I will switch relationship status to married. That was a big thing on Facebook too. Is it going to be like taboo though? Remember it's complicated on Facebook. Yes. that is so or um there was another one but anyways are on myspace would it be weird if you're my first person that seems like too weird i don't think i don't think i'm just trying to doubling back on how crazy it was that facebook would have us state that we were in complicated relationships like we would use that feature but did you did you watch him building it what was movie called social network that was like the backbone of it was the relationship feature he was very excited about that early on yeah he he really wanted to like rank the girls and do the relationship status and message and that relationships are part of why facebook was built i'm trying to think of this convenience tax that hit me the other day that drove me nuts that was so I was like so not worth it I don't know um couldn't tell you well you know I didn't know on Spotify I had been listening in my free hours and then I had to upgrade last night my subscription I surpassed my 15 hour allotted talk about just to just they get you there I don't even I got to get this this isn't a Spotify thing like the ability to get audiobooks online is so much more expensive than like an ebook you got to get on the library you got to get on the libby app do they have calamity club probably yeah and it's free yes library oh oh yeah so the actual library yes you go get an austin library card and you connect your library card to the libby app the only thing is like you wait a little bit so like that's convenience tax correct but like for example the off-campus books they are exclusively produced with um with amazon and so you can only get them on audible and so that's where i'm like i'm paying for an audible membership because i need to listen to these certain books those aren't on the library how much they're charging you they're expensive you can buy you buy 24 credits a book is a credit 24 credits is 200 some dollars for yeah what yeah and like I can rip through books.

1:16:07Yeah, it's something that upsets me. So that's why the library card is so good. Oh, yeah. But they don't have her. They don't have all. They don't have. But if they have 90 % of the books, that's phenomenal. Right. Yeah. Right. I just can't believe that libraries have gone digital. That was a massive learning for me. What? Yeah, I had no idea. You think I don't think anyone should pay to read. That's fine. I agree. Don't pay to read. I totally agree. Don't. No, actually. Sorry, that's probably bad. But like, don't buy books. Don't buy audio books. Library. Well, you don't have to buy them is the point.

1:16:35Correct. You can go to the library and get, I had a library card in New York. I need to get a library card here. Gotta get an Austin library card and just look it up. And you can get eBooks that way too. I'm going to the Austin library soon actually. So I will get one. Bring your ID. Okay. Good to know. All right, guys, that MySpace, MySpace is making a comeback. How, I'm actually thrilled about that. All right. We love you guys. Happy Wednesday. Jules will be gone Friday. Yep. And we have a guest episode Friday. We do. We've got a guest episode. It's very, very interesting. It's all about longevity.

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