Postpartum prep, toddler street safety & can your kid have too many toys?!

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1:13Well, you guys, we could have set that culture from the top. Yeah, I don't agree with the Jules, as I can assure you imagine. Harrison only agrees with it because he's hungover. I'm in great spirits, Jules. But you will work all day. I have a well I have a full day of calls yeah you really do so I'm back to back till 4.30 hopefully squeeze in a quick little workout and then a no phone evening with you and Bubz with March Madness and hopefully pizza night will you do pizza night tonight I'd love to do homemade pizzas I literally have gestational diabetes I want to eat the pizza what if we do sourdough bread okay done yes I had sourdough pizza this weekend From where?

1:57It was like frozen from H-E-B, but they make it here. I don't remember the brand. Okay. I'll send it to you. We have to go to H-E-B. We've got to get there. It was really good. It was like fresh baked, blah, blah, blah, but it's frozen. That's fine. Yeah. I'll send it to you. So basically, it's a local pizzeria that freezes their pizzas and sells them in grocery stores. Mm-hmm. That was a man. It's a great business. It's a great - Definition of a man's plane. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I was clarifying. I was actually clarifying that it wasn't like a national brand. It was a restaurant brand. Okay.

2:34Because where I was going with it was it's a phenomenal business taking restaurant concepts and bringing packaged versions to grocery stores. Correct. Yes. That I agree with. All right. Ready? Okay. Every time. Welcome back to another episode of Two Parents in a Podcast. We're like carrying Easter over with our colors today. Okay, so today's episode, first of all, please, if you're listening, subscribe, like the video, follow on Spotify. You guys are doing a very, are they still doing a good job? They are. Good job, you guys. Thank you. And then today's episode is a fun one. we're coming off of the Easter holiday which Harrison's now comparing to a springtime Christmas which is fun we're going to talk about prepping the postpartum kit and how that brought back some memories for me because I gaslit myself into thinking that birth was just like a walk in the park and then we went to the store to buy the things for the nursery and the diapers for me for afterwards and I just like brought back all these memories we're going to talk about gentle parenting um Harrison was like I think I'm a gentle parent and I was like I don't think you are I think you have the term wrong um and then Easter gifts and Easter gifts is more of a segue into is there such thing as too many toys for your kids and what does that mean so we also have some good things we dm'd some street safety it's a good episode so here we go big Easter guy you set up a phenomenal itinerary for us Harrison did not know I was texting your sister about this actually I said all day Harrison kept saying so Easter so we started off our day yesterday walking to get coffee and the whole walk to get the coffee Harrison was like so Easter's fun and I was like yeah Easter's really fun because he saw our neighbor's kids run out of the house in the morning and go on an Easter egg hunt and he was like what's going on with that and I was like well the Easter bunny visits every house and hides eggs so but last year when we had Easter you didn't understand that with Bubz because she was too young so we didn't do that this year we did it but not as like not right when she wakes up but as she gets older like that will be the thing that we do on Easter and so he coined it a Christmas in the spring which I think is pretty accurate because somebody comes and visits, but he likes the Easter bunny more than Santa because bunnies actually exist.

5:15And I'm sorry if your kids are listening. Everyone exists. You planned a great Easter. I don't know what else to say. Watching these kids just sprint out of the house at 7am and we did three Easter egg hunts this weekend. Pubs loves to pick up the eggs and put them in her basket. It's a very well done holiday. It's just fun. I don't think it gets the same attention up north. that it does down south. It's a big thing down here. Was Easter big for you growing up? Yes. It was big in terms of like the chocolate component of it, but it felt very festive. Okay. All day yesterday. Just so we're clear, just so we can level set what happened.

5:57So Friday night, you did a girls-only Easter egg hunt with the kids. Saturday, there was a massive thing at the park. There was probably 200 plus kids at our park doing a mega Easter egg hunt. Next year, I think we're going to get involved with the park community and try and add some dynamics to it. It was super well done. We think we can sprinkle a little cherry. I think the bunny should come. Yeah, I totally agree. And then we hosted like 30 people at our house on Sunday, yesterday, for a Easter egg hunt. And we had a bunny come. Yeah, we had an Easter bunny come. Here's the thing about Easter.

6:40It's just, and holidays in general, they're just fun with kids, I think. Like our whole block's involved, our whole block's doing something. And so it just makes it fun. And I made a video. I made a TikTok talk whenever I was tying the bow on her. Oh, I blocked you on TikTok so you didn't see these. The reason I blocked you was I did an unboxing of your aprons and I didn't want you to see it. And so I always go and block you and I do that around your birthday or something so I need to unblock you. But what I, so what you didn't see was I made a video of me tying the bow on her scooter, talking about how pre-kids I said like we were not going to do big holiday gifts and things like that.

7:17And then you actually have the kid and you see the joy on their face and how it totally changes you and how you want them to have that joy and experience that joy and have the Easter Bunny come over and wear the outfits and do all these things. and how motherhood, what I thought it would look like without kids versus what it does look like with kids. It's two totally different things. I totally agree. But what I'd kind of like put a bit of a different spin on it is that she still doesn't like gifts. What she loves is like experiences and moments. Right. And so. But you want to get, but I always was like, we're not going to do lots of gifts.

7:54And it's like for Easter, there was that scooter. and I was like, this will be really fun in the morning for her to get it. Yes. You want to put the bow on it. I wanted the bow to be tied perfectly. Just because it's pure joy to see them have pure joy. Oh my goodness, I had something to say and I'm totally forgetting what it was. Well, what you said to me in that moment was, does she have too many toys? Okay, okay, that isn't where I was going with it, but... Do you want me to do toys or do you want me to say what I was going to say? You can say what you were going to say. Okay. Okay, so little tip for hiding gifts.

8:31Hiding? Hiding gifts that you're going to give me. Okay. Okay. No, did you find your apron? Like, we got to put them in areas that I won't look. In Bubz's closet? What was my job this weekend? Oh, you did. You organized her closet. Did you open them now? Well, I had to find out what was in the closet No, so you knew what you were getting Unfortunately I didn't want to tell you yesterday So, you know one area I never go I'm just going to give you a great tip No, go to the playroom My closet Your closet I am never in your closet The only time I'm ever in your closet Is when Bubz runs there and I go and get her So if you ever need to hide something from me Please your closet and you don't even need to hide it good.

9:23I can just set it in there. Yeah. But then the other advice on that is don't hide it. The only time I could ever imagine going into your closet would be if you put some of my clothes in there. So if you're going to wear my clothes, I would say put them back in my closet or if you do put them in your closet, just don't put them close to where you're hiding things. Yeah, I can hide everything in my swimsuit then. You don't know where that's at. Yeah, I'd never open a drawer. It's not even a drawer. There are drawers in there, though. Yeah, but this isn't that. Okay, okay, darn it. So you knew what I was getting you.

10:00It was a 10 out of 10 gift. I'd say that it's the best gift I've gotten in three years, five years. Really? Because it has to do with Bob's or why? Because it is, there's utility behind it. Tough, because I got you a Louis Vuitton duffel recently. Yeah, I don't like things like that. I don't think this really goes to show. Like you. I'm not a material gift guy. Look, I like that gift way more than a fancy bag. Yeah. Thank you very much for the bag. No, no, no. I love that. But I love that about you. So I thought it was a great gift too. And it was something that I wanted to give you guys. And so anyways, they have their aprons.

10:38Bubz likes putting it on. But then the new word off. Off. So then we take it off. And then on. Then we put it back on. And then off. And then back on. She did enjoy her Easter gifts. But the question Harrison asked me was, he said, does she have too many toys? And I thought, oh, the question that I knew was going to come up one day. Because another thing I said before I was a mom was, we're not going to have a ton of toys around the house. We're not going to be just like toy central. And I would say we've become a bit of toy central. However, I did do a clean out of toys when we got the new play kitchen.

11:13Because I think when one thing comes in, one thing has to go out. so I was looking it up and basically here's what I learned too much too many toys is distracting that is actually a thing and the signs that they have too many toys is they pull out all the toys and they're not playing with them so they're bouncing from toy to toy to toy yeah I think we do this and the problem is it makes them harder to explore deeply and have like focused play I think her play kitchen is a prime example of her though playing with a toy for 30 minutes and focusing on it yes and funny enough i think it was the experience with the toy kitchen which is what sparked the um which is what sparked me bringing it up in the first place it's like oh wow she's actually playing with this all this other stuff she's not playing with so it felt like she had too many items and we should get more concentrated with it the other toy she does focus play with is the farmhouse yep so she can take these little animals and put them in there and there's a bell and things like that.

12:12And the video I watched said avoid toys that have a button and then light up. So all they have to do is press one button. And then I thought about this and it's very true. So she is a lawnmower where you push one button, bubbles come out and that's it. And she just presses that one button and then walks off and then leaves the bubbles coming out and she doesn't do focused play with it. But for example, her play kitchen and her farmhouse are two toys that encourage focused play with her and she plays with them for longer. and so I do think that those types of toys are really good. So are we going to do another cleanup?

12:44Well, I think we might put the lawnmower up. Yeah, I'm very supportive of that. Otherwise, though, I did just do a cleanup and we don't have a ton of toys in that area. So I actually feel good about where we're at. However, my thing with the play kitchen is she does have some pots and pans that are sitting in a cabinet and she has some little food bins that are sitting in a cabinet. And I'm not going to give them all to her. I'm just going to keep the play kitchen as is right now. And then in a month, I might give her a pot and a pan. I almost got Tate something this weekend. And then I didn't, as an effort to not give more toys.

13:22What was it? At HEB, they have these HEB, not a cart, but a basket. Full with all HEB branded food. It is so cute. Like toy food? Toy food. I mean, we'd be very supportive of that. I think we're going to have to. We're a big H-E-B family. It is so cute. I'll send a picture. Or maybe I'll get it the next time I go. That. I didn't know they had that. Me either. See a shopping cart. Where is it? What H-E-B-D shop at? The one on the east side. Okay. By my house. Okay. We need to Lake Austin drive one. But no, it was by like, it was by all the Easter stuff on an end cap. Do you think it's Easter specific or do they have it year round?

14:06No, no, no. Year round. Okay, good. I'll go today and get it. She's like, I will get it. It's really cute. Okay, guys, this is an exciting one. It's way day at Wayfair from April 25th to the 27th. You can score the best deals in home, like up to 80 % off with free shipping on everything. You guys, we, especially being parents, we are Wayfair people because the shipping is fast. The quality is good and they truly have everything. The most recent thing we got from Wayfair, our play kitchen. Our play kitchen is from Wayfair, and most of the stuff in our playroom is from Wayfair. Wayfair makes it easy to find exactly what fits your style and needs, from furniture and decor to home improvement and outdoor essentials.

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15:24Head to Wayfair.com April 25th through the 27th to shop Wayday. That's W-A-Y-F-A-I-R.com. Wayfair, every style, every home. Yeah, and I think she's starting to understand the toast is fake and the coffee cups are fake. So she'll bring them to us and we'll nibble on the toast, all of us. And I was shocked by that. She also eats real toast. So it's very... The play kitchen's been a hit, I gotta say. I gotta give that one a 10 out of 10 because she really does focus play with it for 30 minutes. yeah same with the the toys that like the fake blender and the fake uh yeah coffee machine and toaster the other thing she needs i told alex about this it's a mud kitchen which is a play kitchen outside which once we do our pool i think we will give her we see right now though jules we can't do a mud kitchen for about six months because we got to do the play kitchen yeah we got to focus on the play kitchen time so that's the skinny there um so too many toys is a thing the other thing we did this weekend was we went to the store and we bought my postpartum stuff like we went and harrison organized baby boys nursery

16:43um and i lost my train i thought i took a nap i woke up he had done the nursery really cute it's so funny the difference between baby one and baby two because with baby one our nursery was dialed in two months before i had her we had so many clothes it was so organized everything was labeled baby number two we have like a couple pair of pajamas like but i feel so good about like i feel like that room is ready and we could go to the hospital today come back tomorrow and like we won't we won't miss a beat but we know what we need and that is in the first three months they just wear pajamas or our kids just wear pajamas you need diapers you need diaper cream and we've got that you need some bath things like a little towel we've got that and other than that like he's gonna sleep in our room so we don't need you know the crib sheets are on but and we have the sleep sack ready but like he doesn't use that till he's six months old six maybe eight i don't even remember diaper pail we've got the diaper pail ready to carry around So it's like what I've realized that we need, we've got the necessities.

17:48So we went to the store and we got the postpartum things. And it really, I don't know if any other moms can relate to this, but I had gaslit myself into thinking that birth was easy, fun, comfy, pleasant. And then I got to the store and we were looking at like postpartum diapers. And I was like, ah, like, oh, that hurt. and it was like this reminder and Harrison looked at me and he's like it's not going to be the same and I do everyone does tell me birthing one like baby number one versus baby number two number two is a lot easier you don't tear as much you know what to expect the recovery is not as bad and so I'm looking forward to that but this is the first time that I've been like scared about the birth no it's okay I know that I would do it I would do it every day I would do it twice a day I would experience that pain twice a day to have the joy of bubs but it it is sending like a shock through me in terms of toughness of pregnancy one on a scale of one to ten how tough was it or how yeah how hard how hard was it well i don't want to give it a 10 because i know i know that harder does exist so i'm going to give it an eight okay and what about pregnancy too wait sorry pregnancy or birthing pregnancy oh oh okay um so i heard about this thing that can happen when you're pregnant where you're allergic to the baby inside you so for 10 months you have a rash on you wow that to me i felt i felt a lot better about myself so that's and i'm sure there's a lot of things out there like that that exist in terms of of of you know pain and struggle and nausea that you've experienced uh and the hormonal side of it that you've experienced in your life like in your in your specific context i'll give it an eight out of ten okay pregnancy one what about pregnancy two six point five okay so pretty drastic improvement but the first the first 20 weeks were harder but the last 20 have been easier and then what about postpartum baby one she killed one to ten well my stitches fell out on a walk so and then i had to get cauterized with no pain medicine that hurt although i know it can be worse so again i'll give it an eight so hopefully we get a good improvement off of that for postpartum too well i think that it will be an improvement because number one again i know what to expect number two i know epidurals aren't for everybody epidurals are for me i'm a candidate for them i want one and mine didn't work the first time I'll know if it's working the second time which I'm excited about and so I think that will automatically make it easier felt like so many things something like added things went wrong the first time around and so I'm I'm hopeful that that that same dynamic doesn't occur I'm hopeful what everybody says is true which is just like number two is easier and then they say three like they say each birth it gets easier the time gets less your body knows what to do and when your body knows what to do and you know what's coming like you know how it is the first time you probably ran a marathon you had no idea how it was going to feel but then the second time you just although it's the same amount of hard you know what you to expect so it makes it a little bit easier yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna stay away from making male body comparisons to pregnancy i feel like it's a wise idea i don't even know what you could possibly compare well you just compared to two marathons.

21:21I'm not going to talk about the feeling of mile 22 in marathon one versus marathon two. I'm not going to do that. Well, I most so meant the unknown of doing something hard once versus doing it the second time. But I will say postpartum hurt more than I ever anticipated. It was more painful than I ever thought. Yeah, it's unbelievable. It was unbelievable to watch. We'll see how time number two goes. But anyways. You're a champ. All that to say, it brought back. The one thing I am wondering if I'm going to do again is the witch hazel pads. I know you don't know what that means. No, I do. I do. That's my one thing I'm wondering about.

22:10Okay, so this weekend we bought that. We bought diapers. We bought diaper cream. We bought a diaper pail. We just went to the store and did it all. It's so funny you register for all that for the first one. It's so much less stressful doing that run the second time around versus the first time around. Because I remember the first time around, you're just like overload of products and services and what do you use. And every parent swears by different items. And we know the process. It's so much more enjoyable this time around. Well, the first time around, you go to the store with the list that you didn't make.

22:48And it's like you need pacifiers. You have to pick the bottle type. You need a bottle washer. You need the baby Brezza. And then the second time around, it's like we don't need a full bottle washer. We need one brush because we're the kind of house that does one brush that's specific for bottles. And then we use a drying rack. Done. Like that's the kind of house. And you just have to figure out how things fit into your household. but with baby and listen we have a lot of these things already stocked like you know the bouncer tate didn't love the bouncer we did keep it so we have the bouncer for him we have the moses basket as we call it we're bringing all this stuff out of the basement today but it's just like we'll see if we use it we'll see if we don't we have it but like we didn't use but we didn't use bottle sterilizers yeah and today is the official day that the house we do the turnover in the house and so like all of the baby two items are coming up so like the duna's getting installed the baby moses basket is finding its place so that we were doing that organization before he comes home from the hospital i don't think it's good to give tate two weeks of like singing around the house okay so we did all the shopping um what are you going to be doing differently for baby number two that you did for baby number one?

24:09Well, a lot of things, including obviously how we've set up the nursery, but number, but the main thing I've been talking about is this beating journey where I'm not going to put as much pressure on myself with Tate. I breastfed exclusively for six months and then combo fed up to a year. And so I was just mentally, like, I don't think you can mentally recover fully while you're breastfeeding. And then I got pregnant again. And so one thing that my body's really looking forward to is a bit of a break hormonally. It's funny. I was thinking today on the way here. I was like, am I going to wake up?

24:47You know, how many months am I going to have myself wake up and pump or breastfeed? Or is there going to be an instance where I do insert some formula in there? And this is honestly why I'm happy that we're partnering with Bobby so early on. Because did you know they have lactation support online? They have this thing called a feeding room. where moms can go on and get like actual lactation support, or you can ask anything. You can ask about sleep schedules, anything like that. That's awesome. I like a formula company that isn't just like, hey, use formula. They're saying like, we're going to support you throughout anything.

25:20So we do have our Bobby at our house. We're ready for that. We're going to see how the feeding goes. Am I going to combo feed right off the bat? I don't think so. I think I'm going to breastfeed for a month, and then from there reassess how it goes. But that's one thing that I'm going to do differently. probably the biggest thing that I'm going to do differently is not put so much pressure on myself. Sitting at the proper hotel in that meeting, I'll never forget having to get up, go pump, and Uber the milk home like gone are the days. So that's going to be the biggest thing that I'm going to do.

25:56And the other big thing that I'm going to do, I don't know. a lot of it's going to be I don't know is there anything you can think of that we'll do differently I like the way we did the sleep schedule I mean it's all going to be different because we're going to be you know not just having one baby we're going to have two here's what I'm hoping we can do the same okay that's a good point and that is the snoo I trust you on the feeding journey I support you through the feeding journey um i saw what a challenge it was for you um and so uh love you know how thoughtful you're being around uh what it's going to look like this time hold on can i add something to this really quickly while i'm sitting here thinking about it yeah going in to the feeding journey with tate i had a lot of energy reserve, right?

26:53Like I was sleeping a ton. It's your only baby pregnancy. If I was tired while I was pregnant, I would just get in bed right now coming into the second baby off of being a toddler mom. I just think I'm a little bit closer to my wits end. Does that make sense? So like, I don't have as much, if I am up all night or if I'm up three times during the night well then i wake up and i'm still you know you're still mom to two so i just think that that energy reserve isn't as leisurely for you and then like you're trying to work and you're doing all these things and so the feeding journey while i never think your feeding journey should sacrifice i do think you can prioritize your mental health totally makes makes so much sense okay go ahead on the were you talking about the snoo yeah i think the things that I hope we can do the same as is the sleeping and the sleep program and the SNU like the SNU was a phenomenal experience for us I know that we've had some friends who have loved it we've had some friends who couldn't get their kids to to do it um so I'm hoping that that we have luck with the SNU again yeah and I think that we don't you don't know what kind of baby you're gonna have at the beginning are you gonna have a good sleeper are you not gonna have a good sleeper Is there going to be colic?

28:12I mean, you never know. That snoo was our lifeline. It was our lifeline. And you forget about this until you go to pull it out and you think, whoa, she slept so good in that snoo. And for us, fortunately, at the six-month mark, getting her out of it was a non-event. Because they naturally grow out of it. They want to be in their crib at that point. They want the rocking to stop. And there's a weaning mode, but we didn't even use it. yeah we just had a perfect experience with it so yeah but bubs was easy so that's that's the that's the things i'll do differently with baby number two very nice did you know the average employer has to sort through roughly 250 resumes per job opening talk about time consuming but if you're hiring here's the good news you can now review all these resumes and applications faster thanks to ZipRecruiter.

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30:49Yeah. I do think like why? But why do that? Yeah, it feels like you're like really... You're turning the knife. Yeah, I agree with that. Did you see his lover boy response? Yes, I did. And what did you think of that? C to C plus response. And can you summarize it? Did you see Jules? No, not really. Okay. So I thought the initial response was an F. And basically they came out and they remember like during COVID when all the restaurants shut down and like all the different Instagram accounts would come out and be like, here are ways that you can support your local restaurants, right? Right. They did one of those.

31:34It was like, here's ways that you can support Loverboy. It was like, go to your stores and tell us you want us and go online and shop and be positive on the Internet. It was like swinging a mess. And the only reason why I have upgraded it to a C is because they then dropped a merch line that said Carl's a mess, which I thought was pretty funny. so they're doing quick they're not doing flavor drops they're not doing well here's here's where it comes to me when i look at the common traits of successful entrepreneurs i know one thing that they all have in common is they aren't scared okay and lover boy's response was a scared response they're not leaning into the situation it's it is very very hard to buy momentum as a business.

32:31And they have momentum right now. And he has a golden opportunity to revive his business. And from an outsider's perspective, it appears he's operating scared and he's not going to do that. And there's this little short-term blip that he's going to get in sales right now. And I fear that in three, six, nine months, he's just going to be in the exact same situation if he doesn't do something drastic with it. And I gave that like, you know, whatever, funny throwaway idea yesterday. Like he needs to make a move right now. And he is in a position today that he wasn't in 90 days ago where like people are watching him to see what moves he makes.

33:12And it appears very well, it appears are there to support him through that transition. well I'll be I'll use myself as an example like right now I spend a lot of time in bed I kind of am like looking at internet stuff a little bit more than normal I would be prepared to like buy something even I would be a consumer myself if he did something that was like so cool and I would just say he doesn't have anybody's in the room's attention it's just like the car I don't know I don't know who Carl is okay great like I would like to see a flavor drop of some capacity. People were commenting Sierra mist genius.

33:50Like there, there's some really cool things I think he could do right now. And I do, let me ask you this though. Can you answer this? He posted, I see all of your marketing ideas, but I have$3. Like basically we don't have the money. What does he do about that? And that sucks, but plenty of brands don't have budget, but what he does have is he has attention and he's eyeballs on him. And there's plenty of ways that he can leverage that attention into opportunities for the business. Like the most obvious being taking pre-orders for whatever innovation he comes up with, which I think is what he did with those sweatshirts.

34:27But inherently like sweatshirts, saying Carl is a mess, like that isn't going to save your business. That may buy you a couple of days, a week or two of runway, but it really appears he's in the situation where he needs to do something a lot bigger. and you always say one thing to me you can't buy you can't buy momentum and and this guy has so much momentum and if i were him i'd probably just like look in the mirror and say all right i've been building this thing for call it eight years and i built it behind this mega tailwind bravo but like it doesn't feel like the core product that we built behind has worked okay And so this feels like an amazing situation to when you have the engaged eyeballs to bring the community in and and have them a part of incubating what comes next for Loverboy and that next chapter of of Loverboy, which to me doesn't feel like it's in it's in Seltzer.

35:27Do you think that, well, Loverboy also is a great name right now for him to do something with. I don't know what that is. But we are in a love square, not a triangle. So that seems like something you could capitalize on. But number two, I don't know. I don't think you take the Burger King approach. But, you know, take some calls from people. Call them back. So you just see what they have to say. I would take my five best innovation ideas and I'd bring them to the community. I'd bring them to the viewers and I'd say, what do you think we should do and why? So at this moment, you kind of want Kyle to go full entrepreneur.

36:03Yeah. Which I think would be really good for him to rebrand. Like, what she just gave him, from what I can tell. And don't be scared. Like, the whole point is don't be scared. You did the hard part. You told people that you had three months of runway and that the business wasn't working. Now go do something about it, dude. Yeah. Do something about it. He's gotten a gift on a platter. Him and Sierra have such an opportunity right now career-wise. I really want to see them do something with that. Yeah, and on that product, one thing I've heard him say is 95 % of the Bravo demo and their following is women.