Push presents, ‘pregnancy robots’ & the male loneliness epidemic

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0:46Find select shelving and tote storage up to 15 % off at the Home Depot to organize every room in your home, from your garage to your attic. Visit homedepot.com, how doers get more done. Okay. Welcome back to another episode of Two Parents and a Podcast. Hi Harrison. Hello. How's it going over there today? We're in our new studio. I think today is going to be a great episode. I'm okay you guys I think this new studio is so cute. Shout out Jules to pulling it together. Thanks. Great job. It's so surreal like being at home and then just be like we're gonna walk to the studio and record except today we did drive yeah takes about two minutes to drive eight minutes to walk i think yeah we're on a very very tight schedule today because we're taking family photos taking family photos we're taking a flight i've got a call after this which gives a hard stop on recording so here's the thing here's why we're taking family photos do you want to know why i'd love to hear i ask my friends whenever i was pregnant i ask a bunch of them like what's a piece of advice like a non-traditional piece of advice you have and I'll never forget what one of them said and she said do family photos the first years often as you can and I was like why and she was like they're so little and it's such a sweet time especially with the first one that you're really going to want to capture those moments in those seasons of life so I think back because we this will be our second time we've done it third time well we did it pregnant no we have the ones of baba right when she came out where she's like kind of like on my arm and stuff oh my gosh and those went on the the holiday cards oh and then we had the ones of us walking down the street where yes um we're kind of holding her up and then we have these ones and okay so i'm so glad you said that so she was so little in the first ones and it was so foggy for me yeah and the second ones I remember I was like wearing the pink felt a little bit more like myself but I remember even those photos I wanted to get through fast because I was like I don't I still don't feel great like there it was a lot going on and now these today I'm so excited about because she's almost one and I really want like I want to time stamp this moment and I'm ready for a new background this has been my phone background oh she was so little the the thing that that that you love the family photos.

3:19And so because you love them, I love them. They are so special. Actually. It's a weird dynamic, though, because it's like we have given the quality of several cameras. We have so many photos of her and us. And so I get like initially the kind of thought is, well, we already have so many photos. Why do you need more? But I get because these are done professionally, they on a better camera, they do like stand out and they do kind of default to all right what gets framed and but we don't have a ton of photos of the three of us it's also very that's very true we have an obscene amount of you and bubber we have a good amount of me and bubber and we have a ton of just bubber we don't have a ton of the three of us yeah yeah you know there's this like online thing where it's kind of like i looked through my husband's phone or if you looked through my phone you'd think yeah if you looked through with the girl's phone you'd think she was just a single dad yes but you i went through yours the other day because i was trying to find some pics of the first year because i'm all i'm already like really emotional about it you take a good amount of her and i because you told me that you want me to take them they're just they're candids today i'm supposed to take one that goes on your grid because you like your outfit and you like how you look and i think you look great and i think your outfit's great well i did my makeup So I told Harrison on the way here, I said, take a photo of me at some point today, please.

4:42Because it's not every day that I get up and do my makeup. It was great communication. On the way out the door, you're like, can you take a photo of me? And I took a quick photo. And then we got in the car and looked at it. And you're like, okay, now I need to be very direct. I love my makeup. I like my outfit. Please put effort into the photo so I can put it on my grid. And I said, thank you for telling me exactly what you want. Yeah, I realized. Foolproof it for me. Well, I realized the thing is, I can't expect you to read my mind. Like, I was like, hey, take a picture of me. And then you matched my energy.

5:15Like, I gave you like a half-ass, like, yo, take a photo of me. You gave me a half-ass photo. Half-ass photo. So then I realized, oh, I'm sorry. Harrison, let me be how you are. Let me be very direct. Get a good photo of me with good lighting today, please. And then you're like, oh, yeah, I can do that. Yep. So that's the goal today. Okay, you got. So today's. What? I baited you and you didn't take the bait. What's the bait? I was like, today's going to be a great episode. Oh, why do you think today's going to be a great episode? Because I think that while I love recording, like while we've found great other studios to record at, I find that especially with these episodes of you and me, recording them like in our home space and the new studio now being the home space, Like there's just a different comfort level to it.

6:09Totally agree. I totally agree. It's cozy. It's familiar. There's also something to be said for showing up in your headspace and not having to deal with exterior factors. Knowing the camera angle is good. Knowing the mics are here. Knowing where you're sitting. Not having to say hi to a bunch of people. Just, hey, Jules, sit down. Go. Like that is, you didn't have to go into any extra brain space there. Hey, Jules, how's your day? How's your day, Jules? it's great it's great prepping for some interviews i'm very excited about four interviews jules is coming to la yeah but jules so we have to take the flight to not have to we get to take the flight tonight on tuesday night spend the night there wake up there tomorrow jules is taking the flight on wednesday morning which i'm very jealous of but we've had worse issues obviously and we have the bulkhead on the flight okay bubber's birthday i would talk about it a little bit because it's On the forefront of my mind.

7:03Okay. We didn't do welcome to two parents and a podcast. Yes, we did. We do it every time. I thought this was like kind of one of those situations where we were like talking before the episode. And then we forgot to get into the episode. Nope. We got right into the episode. But you're a little bit. You're a little. We welcome to two parents and a podcast. You're a little distracted today. And I know that because you were on breakfast duty. And Harrison brought me my eggs and turkey bacon with a spoon. And I looked at it and I thought, thank you. Number one, thank you so much. Number two, I can tell when you get a little distracted and I loved it.

7:37It's because we're doing the first housing project where I don't feel fully prepared. Tell us about the housing project. Well, it's just the other projects, the dimensions have been dialed. and this project we're really just like we're doing a little too much winging it off of a off of a ai chat tvt photo i made so and like we don't have it's for the basement it's like an entertainment center set up to and like we don't have the actual tv there yet and it just the whole thing feels um very by the hip and i'm a little nervous so and i'm so i was running up and down like we like we're taping using wall tape to get a feel for how it all look out and i don't know it's the first thing that like i don't feel fully confident that we're gonna crush so basically to paint a larger picture for you in the basement one side of it is harrison's man cave as we call it and he's got his big sectional couch and he has a tv right now on the wall and it's like a wood it's a very wood feel down there and what he wants to do is build out the whole wall to be like a bookshelf like a like an encased tv with memorabilia and books and all that surrounding it we can put up a photo of the ai photo basically this guy came over what's your guy's name jose jose jose came over and harrison just said i don't have it taped off yet so here's the photo and i don't have like the dimensions for you get as close as you can i kind of love that you know what and i asked him i was like do you want to do you want me to to like to do this and it'll probably delay things or do you want to like just run with it he's like i got you he's got it i have faith i just had an idea that i'm i'm gonna save us a couple inches on something okay Okay.

9:36So I do want to say, though, I think today's episode is going to be really good because we have a lot to talk about. IRL stuff, parenting stuff, the male loneliness epidemic, which I think is probably like a big thing for people. And then robots carrying babies, et cetera. But Bubber's first birthday, I want to just touch on it for a second. Okay. Because I'm really, I had a mental block with it. And now I don't have one anymore. I've released the mental block. I said, you want to do it. You keep thinking about it, but then you're talking yourself out of it. You're talking yourself into it. We're doing the birthday.

10:11I've got the theme picked and I'm starting to book things and I'm starting to pick the activities that are going to be at it. And I don't think I'm going to tell anybody what it is until I release it. Perfect. I do love like the difference of like, I feel like one thing we do a lot of is just like allocating of, hey, you're on, you know, you have responsibility X, I have responsibility wise. So like back to like me taking the charge on the house renovations and like you clearly taking the charge on her birthday. Like I have, like I have the general idea of the direction we're going, but from what you just said, it sounds like a lot more has happened than I'm actually aware of.

10:53And like, I love that. Like I, I'm excited for you to run with this and and play out your vision and then hopefully ask me when you like like the way i asked you about the tv today to like bring you in on the process and hope you have some you know make it make it feel like there's some some dual ownership i hope you do that too you want me to bring you in or you want me to surprise you too i like a bit of i actually don't care if there's whatever's easiest for you to be honest if there's anything i need a second opinion on i will loop you in on it but i kind of oh i don't know i'm torn i don't want to slow up the process no no but i do think it's cute if we both do it a bit i don't know we're gonna have her birthday party on saturday but her real birthday is on wednesday and we're gonna have just like a whole like a cute little home sweatpants celebration for her real birthday so she can crawl and do all her favorite things saturday a little more a little more well saturday we're gonna include our friends the community that loves Bubber so much.

11:54I never said, I always said, I probably won't have a first birthday party. Now I just love, I mean, I just look at that little girl and I'm like, you're having a birthday party. No gifts, no gifts allowed. Other than stocks. Finding great candidates to hire can be like trying to find a needle in a haystack. You get too many resumes and not enough candidates with the right skills or experience, which can be so frustrating, you guys, but not with ZipRecruiter. Zip Recruiter finds amazing candidates for you and they do it fast because when we're hiring, we want to do it quick and we want to do it effective.

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13:03Again, that's ZipRecruiter.com slash Alex. ZipRecruiter, the smartest way to hire. I did want to say this. Speaking of you saying delegating tasks, I loved how I realized on the flight and we're doing it again today we have like head of like chief of flights yes and it was so funny i made a tiktok talking about how like harrison's the head of this today's flight and you were in the background like on your phone just like and like i had bubber but we hadn't taken off yet and it was so funny some of the columns were like wait but he's on his phone i was like oh the flight hasn't started yet that i felt like i was done very i probably only see like 20 percent I felt like I was done so dirty on that.

13:46I had her so locked in on that flight. Games, eating. The back row of the flight was free, okay, or open. Harrison took Tate to the back of the flight. I didn't see that once. Like, you handled her the entire time. And so that TikTok did do you dirty. So let me write my wrong right here on the podcast. We hadn't taken off yet, which is why Bubba was crawling around my seat. I was giving Harrison five minutes of free time. And then for four hours. Did I get roasted in the comments? I didn't really look, but I thought. I couldn't believe you did that to me. Oh, sometimes I just, you know, post. Well, luckily.

14:25Well, sometimes you post. I can't believe you posted the bedroom before it was done. I just like my jaw was like on the floor. I was like, oh, my God. Because like the art hasn't come. But the art has come. You're framing it. I'm framing it. You didn't have the TV. I didn't have the frame TV on the art. that we didn't get the plant in. I'm a bit just a fire in the hole kind of gal. In my favorite video when Alex was like, should I show the Burlwood, what is it, Armar? And you were like, no. And then she showed it like five screens later. That I meant to do. I wanted to show it so bad. Like no matter what I say, when it comes to your content, you just whoosh.

15:03Well, that's why I love it so much. So I have so much fun doing it. People are so mad that I'm not wrapping my food in saran wrap walking to the neighbor's house. I think that's an absurd thing to be mad about. What I laugh about though is like, I'm not going to - Are they actually mad? No, they're not actually mad. It's a 30 second walk. Well, and here's the thing. They're going to eat the watermelon right then. Like I'm not going to start wrapping it in saran wrap because of this. I just get the biggest kick out of it. I mean, we got to go back. What about the microplastics that go from the saran wrap into the watermelon?

15:32What do you guys want me to do? Kill the neighbors? Did they get mad at Bubber eating the neighbor's watermelon? Somebody was like, Like, if I had a half-eaten watermelon without saran wrap, I'd be so mad. And I just wanted to be like, Karen, listen. Reframe your mind. You have a sweet little bait. Winnie's also going to eat the watermelon, okay? I'm taking it to Winnie's mom and dad. They're so happy to have a watermelon. Sharing is caring. You can't be so negative. I'm pretty sure the first piece they ate was the piece that Tate was eating. Yeah, it's so sweet. Don't care. I'm just kidding. I just thought it was funny.

16:03Okay, let's get into the episode. So talking about number one, I went to a girls' dinner. So we're going to talk about the girls' dinner, and then we're going to talk about how guys skew a bit lonelier than girls. Number one, like I love my mom group here. My mom group chat, and we're going to have them over on Sunday. And it's so nice to have like – I mean, we just sat and talked about bedtimes, school, like some of the kids are older. Some are going to school. One kid's in another brother-in-law's class. Like, it's just this very sweet, like, you just kind of sit down, exhale, and chat. But one of the girls was talking about how, like, and it was just a casual conversation, but I was like, this is the most fascinating topic on the planet.

16:48Oh, there's two things here. Number one, it's the best push present, but number two, it's, there's the FedEx Cup. Okay. And that's a golf tournament. And a guy named Tommy won it. Okay. Tommy's wife is, I think, 57. I think there's a 34 year age gap or 27 year age gap. There's a big age gap between the two. They have like a two or three year old. Okay. And we were talking about number one, how cool that is. But number two, what's cool, how cool that it is that she was able to have this baby. We don't know if she carried it or not, but what Taylor, who was sitting beside me said was, did you know even, okay.

17:25So if a woman freezes her eggs, um, at the age of 25, but then when she's 60 she still has her uterus even if she's gone through menopause so she can still house her eggs and carry them so the problem is when you get older you have less eggs the eggs are the problem but you can still carry it okay so like a 70 year old could be a surrogate okay and so then we were looking into like the oldest egg ever born and it was somebody that froze their eggs in 1994 just had the baby in 2025. Isn't that so cool? So it's an old egg that was just on ice and then somebody carries it and has it. I thought where you were going with this was that there was like a bigger, was that like her egg was older than the dad.

18:28I thought that's where you're going with it. Was that she's so much older than him. Like she's like 27 years old and he's 24 years old. Sorry, she's 27 years older. So I didn't know you were going with it. You went from golf to... Well, that's what started the combo. Okay. yeah I didn't know how we got from golf to there we were like sitting there talking about it and then we were like wait how cool like what a win for women that they're able to do that like you can freeze your eggs and then you can carry the baby later I'm so confused okay let me explain how this all ties in those were just two separate stories this is how girls dinners go thank you Jules this is how girls dinners go Taylor and I we I'm like waiting to find out what happened in the tournament no like did he win in dramatic fashion is this his first win is his 20th win no i think what's tommy's last name tell me i don't know tommy's last name i forget they all knew they all knew about the fedex cup they were talking about it and then one of them was like okay fascinating enough hit the the wife is like 52 i don't know how the wife is i forget can you tell me how old the wife is and what the age gap is and i'm just trying to think is that egg thing that i even said is that even like a did i do a bad job telling the story so i've seen videos or articles about that where it's like i've never seen it where the dad or whatever is older but like where the it's like a cousin or an uncle or something like that and you're just like actually 25 years older than your uncle or i saw twin eggs or not twins but in the same batch uh-huh born 20 years apart yeah so so i've seen that and so i guess that's where I thought I was going is like she froze her eggs and the eggs were frozen longer than he, uh, than he's been alive.

20:18Well, that could be. That's where I thought you were going with it. Well, actually that can't be. So I needed to, cause like my brain just went like in a pretzel there for a second. And again, that's how girls dinners go. Okay. So, so I totally derailed what we got excited about at dinner other than Tommy and his older wife. She's 57. She's 57 and he's 34. There's a 23 year age difference. So he's 34. And what another article I had read was he won some tournament and she wasn't there because she had so much paranoia about the perception of their age difference and people were judging her. And that made me really sad.

20:56That's very sad. I was really upset to read that article because, you know, I think it's like so cool. Like love is love. And listen, a lot of times where I don't think it's fair is like there's a lot of older men married to younger women. And so why would we have any sort of stigma for an older woman married to a younger man? Like, just let it be. Well, that's what I was going to say. I was going to bring up the difference in when it's an older man, younger woman. Yeah, and I think it's so cool that they were able to have a baby. and I think she's his manager and I think the brother introduced them.

21:37I think. These are all I thinks because I was texting about it yesterday. And sorry, because I did such a bad job following. So the exciting part of the story got to where? What's so crazy is that Yeah, what's the crazy thing? A woman can still, she can freeze her eggs and then 20 years later she can still house them carry them carry okay bring them to life okay even though we don't know if she did if this specifically did that okay and i don't want this to like come off like wrong and essentially i'm actually trying to understand what we got excited about so okay so she's 25 it's kind of irrelevant about okay but like yes thank you that's what sorry so let's go let's go to the case let's go to the case let's go to the or the example so uh so a woman can be 25 years old she can freeze her eggs and then 40 years later carry them she can be 65 years old and and carry the baby totally okay that's amazing that is amazing i thank you even after menopause that is crazy it's crazy that is crazy we got there it's awesome we landed the plane it's awesome that a woman can house the eggs these girls dinners i just i would here's the thing like i was thinking about it girls centers are so much fun because we were just like yapping away and if you had inserted one guy like i think our conversation would have been different and so it's so fun to do the girls dinners is how i just did that frustrating jules no my inability like how all over the place that was no it's just like that's my my brain i guess works on that wavelength i guess because i'm a girl it honestly probably is I was following.

23:20I would have thought we were going to go like that would have been a things we DMed or things I learned this week. And yeah. Well, I do have a things we DMed for you on this note. OK. Would you say life as a parent is just, well, nonstop? Yes, especially when it comes to mealtime. That's why I'm really excited about our next partner. They've made serving healthy meals way easier for me and way more enjoyable for Tate. And that is the most important thing because you guys, we now eat solids. So this podcast is sponsored by Nurture Life. It's 2025. Ask yourself this. Are you still feeding your kid like it's 2005?

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25:23I don't know how they were able to replicate a womb inside of a robot.

25:28Amazing how far science has come. I have a couple of follow-up thoughts. Okay, I'd love to hear them. Okay, so it sparks some questions. Number one, do artificial wombs liberate women from the biological burden of pregnancy or erase a fundamental human experience? What do you think? I'm so torn. I can argue it both ways. Being pregnant is tough. It's hard mentally. It's hard physically. My big question is like some women have a very hard time getting pregnant, right? That's why IVF, that's why surrogacy, some of these things even exist. Does that liberate people from that window of having to go through trying?

26:19Yeah, there's complications with pregnancy. It's hard on your body. So in that regard, does it alleviate it? Probably. But then on the other side of it, it's like if we're not carrying babies anymore, what are we going to be doing? Are robots going to be doing everything for us? Are we even going to be thinking anymore, you know, in 50 years? I don't know. It's also a massive topic of conversation amongst girls, right? Like my first pregnancy was like this. My third was like this. Now it's going to be like, you know, my robot. I don't know. You're going to do the aluminum robot, the titanium robot.

26:55What's your, what's your, are you going to do the 2025 robot model or the 2024 robot model at a discount? I know I can't I don't know and how many how many babies can one robot carry yeah it's wild um I'm obviously a huge believer of uh choose the path that's best for you um and when you throw robots in the mix that's like that's definitely well like so when do we know when the first um the first like actual live um i i guess how would you whatever you call when the first live pregnancy in the robot's going to take place it says that the system could be unveiled as early as 2026 i mean yeah i think that if if these go well if like the first babies um are go through the robot pregnancy and and come out um as one would expect a baby to i think you could see this become a um a very very big part of of our culture and how babies are created i not created but carried i think it's gonna it's gonna result in an uptick double maybe not if not triple the amount i mean you hear a lot of women being like i wish i would have two more kids but i didn't love being pregnant well that that's a yeah i'd love to to to run with that because that feels like obviously that feels like one of the the number one things we hear about why people don't have um more more kids it's hard for us like we want to have five four when did this number we don't know how many we would have I'm firm on five at this moment at this moment and it feels like sometimes you're like what about just Bubber I love Bubber so much she's the best but what we're saying is it feels like five it feels like the biggest hindrance to five is and obviously we want to be very sensitive to the ability to make it happen yeah God willing god willing but is is the toll it takes and and i totally under i don't want to say i understand that but i i completely respect that because i can never understand it as someone who cannot carry a child and so where where i gain a lot of like where i like it is it can be so hard to conceive so if this can solve that that's so helpful love that like totally we yes it is it is it is such a big issue in today's society that if this can help that uh amazing and if it can and if it can also help the toll that pregnancy takes on woman i love that um it is it is a wild it's a wild development if if it ends up being successful but my question is then there's going to be on the other side of it like the woman does feel so connected to the baby and they say a lot of times the dad like doesn't have that connection when the baby first comes out right because like the mom's maybe been feeling the baby kick birth the baby like that's a whole human process that's indescribable and yeah it's the best experience ever that i've ever felt right so yeah but there's A lot of, you know, there's IVF and there's adoption.

30:40And so that isn't like a requisite part of having a child. No, not at all. Not at all. But my point was, I'm saying if you do that route, I wonder if some women will still opt to carry the baby for that feeling. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure that women will still carry babies. It'll just, this will just be a new potential route. How far away do you think we are from robots carrying babies like normally? Well, considering that I just found out about this 15 minutes ago, I would say I really don't have any form of well-educated view on it. my take is more so wow like I can't believe this is where we're at in society today and I hope that like if this can either alleviate challenges around people getting pregnant or challenges that pregnancy has on on women that's incredible in terms of how adopted it is and how far away we are for mainstream adoption.

31:48I think if it can prove to carry and produce healthy babies, I think it will become a pretty large part of society because then the challenges of having a big family turn a lot more either financial or the emotional toll of having so many children, and it removes a very large factor of the equation. I just wonder how they'll turn out. Like you can't, if it produces healthy babies, fine. But like what if the babies like are serial killers in 30 years? Because they didn't have great point jewels. We're not in our lifetime. We're not going to be able to see that baby even turn, you know, 70. So we do need to see the first case study of it being born.

32:3610, 20, 30, 40. What if at 25 it just like immediately turns into a robot itself? I guess to wrap this segment with a final question. Wrap it. If this technology was available tomorrow and it had proven out that 100 healthy babies had been born, would you sign up to use it? No. 100? No. there's still so much time what is the number i would need a thousand no i would need a hundred thousand babies to have been born okay and i would need to have known that they have all turned 50 so then to answer in our lifetime i will not be doing it we will not be doing it but i can always change my mind because i think a lot of people are a lot smarter than we are so that's also true so i don't know too soon to tell what how many babies would you need the robot to have successfully carried in our lifetime for you to feel comfortable with it a thousand feels like not enough a hundred thousand feels like more than enough proof points i think to me it's uh let's call it ten thousand babies and tracked healthy through the age of five okay okay Okay.

34:07Yeah. And okay, that's fair. That you might see in our lifetime. I think you could see that in five years, 10 years. I think you never know. Yeah. That's like intuitively just what feels like it would make sense. Nothing, nothing more to it. Okay. I'm going to move us on from the girls dinner to the male loneliness epidemic. No, you missed the best push present. I did. Thank you so much, Harrison. Okay. Also at the Girls' Center, we were talking about the best push present. And one of the girls, Taylor, again, was like, okay, I have like, I don't know who told her this. But she said, an underrated best push present is a stylist, a wardrobe stylist, and then also like a set amount of outfits.

35:02So you could do it with your husband. And you could be like, I want three outfits once, you know, I'm six months postpartum. Okay. Because here's what we all noticed postpartum. Like colors that looked good on us were different. Like your body changed, your clothes fit you differently. So to have somebody like, instead of going on a trip or something, like you have somebody come over, make you feel good and say, go through your closet with you. And then say, here's some new outfits. I think the only way this works is if the guy is given kind of the heads up. This is what I want beforehand. Because like I think if a lot of guys showed up postpartum being like, here's a wardrobe stylist.

35:50It could be interpreted as you don't like how I dress. and like uh no no i think girls should give like this is i want this yeah no it's not for the guy to the side yes it's for the girls to send him this episode or this clip and say hey great great idea exactly because like i love the idea if you tell me that's what you want yeah i think i will get in a lot of trouble if i just showed up and and suggested here's the other thing i think it's i think this is a push present for a second third for like a not your first baby because your first baby you have no idea you want this but afterwards i truly looked at some outfits that i loved wearing before and i was like i would try on these jeans and be like these fit me completely different and so now with the second one i know like that would be a really good present so then i thought of some other ones okay let's hear okay so the first one is something with the birthstone like bubbers of sapphire amazing so like little sapphire earrings i thought would be like really cute um or you could do like a little necklace and then if you have let's say you have third baby or a second baby or a third baby you could add to them like you could make the sapphire could be like a droop then or you could add little pendants yeah and what i love about that is i find like a guy in the jewelry store like at least you're often just kind of like there's so many options what direction you go to be able to like zero in on hey i want to do something sapphire oriented because it's like picking up just like a random necklace or like random earrings.

37:21It's like finding the story behind it is just so hard. And through adding the birthstone, it really just brings that together. So I think that totally lands. And I think for a lot of occasions. A lot of what? Oh, occasions, not vacations. Yeah, I think the birthstone, and they're unique. And then they tell a story. People usually will say, oh, is that your birthstone? You'll say, no, it's my baby's birthstone. Um, okay. So then I have, I have a third one, but it's kind of like two parts. Okay. So I'm going to do a three and a four. The third one, the third one is like so random. And I think you're going to be like, why would you want that?

37:58But it's a bedroom. It's a bed makeover. Okay. Because your sleep becomes so important and you, women spend a lot of time in bed. Like they say, I don't remember what exactly what it is, but like the first two weeks you're in the bed, the third week you're around the bed. Okay. Right. You remember you're supposed to just take a couple steps a day. And I think making your bed your sanctuary is something that like so new sheets, new comforter, new bedding, like new pillows. You put candles around it. And then that's great for the first year. Like your bed is something that you I've never regretted spending money on sheets.