Wedding planning, baby shower etiquette & is peanut butter sweet or savory?!

0:28Should she say that about the kisses? Fortunately, though, Mint's story is better. Every plan,$15 a month, even unlimited. That's it. Happy ending. Zero tears. Give it a try at mintmobile.com slash switch. Upfront payment of$45 for three months,$90 for six months, or$180 for 12-month plan required. $15 per month equivalent. Taxes and fees extra. Initial plan term only greater than 50 gigabytes may slow when network is busy. See terms. Okay. Are we recording? Yes. Okay. Do you want to know what I was just doing? Sure. We did. our um our fantasy draft order was for football it's that time of year it's that time of year there was a phenomenal uh fantasy football punishment that i saw that i've never got the chance to talk about okay or is this not of interest no no i'm interested in this okay i think this is maybe the best one i've ever seen i'll actually go as far as saying this is the best fantasy football punishment I've ever seen.

1:21Okay. You need to go and play 18 holes of golf with a group of people you don't know, so with three other folks you don't know, and you need to play the whole round without clubs or a ball, pretending that you're hitting every shot. Is this landing? Yeah, yeah, we got it. Yeah. So the guy, like, watching this guy walk up on the first tee, and it's so good it's so good is it so just driver in hand lines up practicing and just pretends to smoke it you guys see where that went oh right in the fairway there we go it's phenomenal phenomenal it's my favorite one okay okay i think that you can't tell them importantly why you're doing it well right right right so i love that i I would like, because that to me, like the third or fourth hole, one of the other guys is just going to be like, dude, like what's going on?

2:28So I would rather, or not rather, because I love seeing this, but in addition to, I would like to raise, I want to keep the base of this 18 holes of golf with other three people you don't know. But I want to mix and match it and maybe like some crazy attire or maybe you play it mute the whole time like i want people to pile on this foundation this trend yeah that is so funny yeah our our fantasy football league are i don't i think our punishment's very lame like who thought of that and i i may suggest this to be the um i thought you were gonna say they went up in like a big bird outfit like who no i think those are lame i'm out on those who thought of playing with that ai chat chibi t what's your lame punishment so everyone in my fantasy league is it's like a consumer packaged goods fantasy league and so everyone works in uh works in the industry and everyone goes to expo west every year and so So the loser needs to wear a shirt at Expo West, which says, I suck at fantasy football, which is good, but I think we could do more.

3:42I'm sorry. That is, we're not, I'm not going to say that's good. Yeah. I love the guys that love the league. Not a good punishment. Who picked that? This is now our third year in the league. And so I think a lot of it was just like getting, getting the trains. moving getting the train moving for year one and year two and now year three hopefully we can we can make an improvement to the punishment if you and i will confidently state i will not lose but if you do lose you really wouldn't want to wear that at expo west right you would kind of come around it's kind of embarrassing i like a thing that's important for your career i don't think it's i don't think it's worn uh i think it's worn more so for a photo rather than the full day.

4:30That's lame. The stakes aren't high enough for me on that. I agree. I agree. And what I also... I just got a whiff of something weird. What I also want to see for... Does anybody smell that? Smells like our room? There's definitely a smell to this room. That's not what it is. It's different. Okay, anyways. What I want to just see from these fantasy leagues is like, do the punishment. Make the person do the punishment. because then if you don't do it this year and you just like blow it off and say whatever, well then next year when you go to sign up, it's like lost its luster. We do the punishment.

5:09It's just not done in... No, not to you. I'm just saying this to all fantasy football doers. You got to do the punishment. Far and wide. Yeah. Commit to the bit. Yeah. From like four years ago, Alex Kost still hasn't done his Waffle House punishment. I remember he used to sit there for 24 hours, right? Yeah, he still hasn't done that. Yeah, we've got... Alex, we need you to go do that, please. Yeah, that's a good call out actually. All right. Let's get this Monday party started. Welcome back to another episode of Two Parents in a Podcast. It's a lovely Monday. It's a Monday. Well, it's just a Monday, Monday.

5:43Jules was late today. It's a bold-faced lie. Bold-faced? Yep, bold-faced. Bold-faced, bold-faced? Yeah, she was not. Jules has never been late. I actually was late today by five minutes. Wow. I pulled in behind pee. But still early. So you're really tugging at my whatever. We're hitting a sore spot? Yes. Yeah. We were early as well. That was because the nanny share was in full force. It was a zoo. We had the neighbors sitting on the couch. I mean, we were all just over there. So finally we were like, you know what, guys? We got to go. And here we are. We had some other neighbors over for dinner last night on the block.

6:26And you know what? Harrison made, he started, our household has changed recently and we have done something magnificent. And I'm going to give you a lot of credit here because you've, you've changed. And sometimes I think in relationships, people aren't willing to change and aren't willing to hear the other one out. What I thought I was going to have to do for the rest of my life is like wince whenever Harrison's cooking, like literally sit over there and wince and disassociate from the chaos happening in the kitchen. Because when you used to cook, you were so messy. And you've become really clean and slow.

7:05And you enjoy the process. And you clean as you go. And you changed because I taught you, cooking doesn't have to be such a rush. It doesn't have to be a sprint. It could be more of a marathon. And it could be enjoyable. And it could be more clean. And you were like, yeah, I'm going to try that. And then yesterday, you were like, I'm loving this. It was just one or two. Thank you for recognizing. asking. It was just one or two small steps. And so I'll give you an example. Okay. All right. So typically what I would have done is it takes like five-ish minutes to cook shrimp. And so what I would have done is I would have, if guests are coming at six, I would have at 545 done a sprint where I would have like peeled the shrimp, patted them down, seasoned them, and then cooked them.

7:51And then our house is messy right before the guests get there. And instead of what I did at four o 'clock, I peeled the shrimp, I seasoned them, I covered them, I put them in the fridge. And then guests arrive at six. I asked for five minute heads up before I ever wants to eat. And then I just did the little five minute shrimp cook before. So it just a little different type of planning has been has been key to it. No, but you used to also be like what? So I used to just be anxious while you were cooking. Bless you. Sorry. And then it wasn't enjoyable because then you eat the meal and you have so much to clean up afterwards.

8:29But now that you're doing it at a little slower pace, you're enjoying yourself, it's been lovely. Thank you. So yesterday he made, what are those called? Short rib? I did a nice five-hour short rib. Is it braised? Braised, yeah. A braised short rib and then shrimp tacos. Yeah. so I the reason why I did do you want to hear my thought yeah so I love like a nice low and slow cook yeah uh but there's also some variance to it I think short rib it's a joke if you don't love beef it's not going to be dish for you um and so I figured I'd have like I want to have a real simple easy dish like shrimp you can't really mess up shrimp tacos well no you can you can it's very hard no chat said be careful how long you cook them because they go from good to rubber really quick even when you overcook shrimp you can't really tell in in a shrimp taco so i did shrimp and coleslaw for the shrimp taco super easy knew no matter what they'd be like an eight out of ten and then a bit more risk to the short rib uh but more upside and that could be like a nine or ten out of 10 so i thought the ratio was the main character and it's really good i think it came out really well thank you what'd you think of my salad be honest i didn't eat it what i made the dressing from scratch whoa jules it was really good i added spices it said look good it look good i'll give you that look it said instead of getting like what's it called jarred garlic actually do your own chopped garlic so i did that wow it looked very good did the whole thing what kind of salad just a traditional mexican salad oh nice corn bean romaine corn bean romaine onion uh cheese tomatoes tomatoes right now they must be in season these things were amazing they were so good so anyways we had the neighbors over and actually i think that this is a good house etiquette question.

10:43So one last thing. Yes, sir. I'd never had the legendary HGB tortillas before. They're so good. They're out of this world. I'd never had them. They're as good as advertised. They're so good. They may be better. They're just another level of delicious. Did you get the butter ones? I got corn and flour. And I got to say, I'm not a corn tortilla guy. these may have converted me yeah i've never gotten the corn ones but i get they're a hybrid corn flour tortilla they're as good as the flour yeah i think it's a little better i'm telling you what tortillas i got really nervous i didn't think torture you could have that much variance in a tortilla like they're so good with an hgb tortilla you can i probably get them every other week they i'm gonna get them every week now i when you put out the tortillas i was like a little bit sad because I think at-home tortillas can completely run a taco.

11:40Like they just, they're cold or like they're whatever. And I was like, this sucks because your meats look so good. The fish and the meat looked like phenomenal. And then I tried that, I was shocked. Sorry, I warmed up the tortillas. Well, of course, but still, I think that a lot of times like, she's talking about like a Ortega tortilla. Yeah, like they just suck. Sorry, sorry to Ortega. Sorry, yeah, sorry to Ortega. I don't even know what Ortega is. Like I just think at-home tortillas a lot of times, like they're just, they kind of run it. We've been using the ones from, what's that Mexican restaurant in New York called?

12:10Takambe. So Takambe launched a CPG line. You told us about this. Okay. I've talked about it. So we've been using those. But we only had, like, I think they only come in a six pack or an eight pack. And given how many people were coming over, I was like, all right, this is the time. So he picked up 20 of them. We had just one couple over for dinner. I was unclear how many people were coming. They have three daughters. We didn't know if they were bringing their girls. And I thought, I kind of thought that neighbor T and neighbor would come by. I made six pounds of meat. Oh, wow. We ate about two pounds of it.

12:46It's so good. But we can have it today. Above and Beyond can look a lot of different ways. Like our waitress at our neighborhood restaurant who brings us bread the second we sit down. Because she knows us. She knows what we want. And honestly, with a toddler, keeping Tate occupied the second we get to a table is everything. She doesn't wait for us to ask you guys. She just gets it and it makes our experience so much better. And that kind of anticipating what someone needs before they can even say it, that's the energy I'm talking about. And this is the same energy you look for when hiring. When a candidate goes the extra step, they really stand out.

13:23That's exactly why you should be using ZipRecruiter. They make it easy for great candidates to tell you why they're interested in your job, helping them rise to the top of your list. And right now, ZipRecruiter has a new feature that shows you the most interested, qualified candidates first, so you meet the right people much faster. Plus, their powerful matching technology finds qualified candidates quickly, so you aren't wasting time sifting through resumes that just don't fit. So try ZipRecruiter and meet great candidates who will go the extra step for your job. four out of five employers who post on zip recruiter get a quality candidate within the first day try it for free today at ziprecruiter.com slash alex that's ziprecruiter.com slash alex zip recruiter meet your match on zip recruiter okay house etiquette question if you're going to a baby shower or any event at someone's house do you need to bring a hostess gift this is from jules yeah i went to a baby shower this weekend and i had my baby shower gift and then i was on my way there and i was like wait it was at someone's house i was like am i supposed to be bringing a hostess gift and i thought i would ask you guys i didn't even google it so no okay cool in this instance you do not need to take the hostess a gift who's supposed to give the hostess a gift is the baby shower person exactly so whenever somebody throws you something you know let's say they're throwing you a wedding shower and let's say there's four hosts and it's at one person's house there's a couple ways you can do it but one is the person's house it's at you could get them one little extra thing um but traditionally speaking like the guest of honor arrives early and then gives the hostess gifts their gifts when in doubt on the gift go to whole foods get an orchid it's it's just it's it's a can't miss hosting gift but in this in this instance where jules is like i was en route yeah i was en route to the thing so i was I don't know.

15:20I don't know. Yeah. And you're fine. But that to me. Not only is she fine. She should not take one. I agree. I agree. I'm thinking about a friend of ours just had their birthday party at another person's house. And we didn't bring them something. But what I will say. Where it can get a little different. Is when you're bringing a gift to the party. It kind of covers both ends. Hold on. I think that I really want to. I'm going to do some defined lines right here. And I know there's some etiquette people out there, and I'm hoping somebody corrects me. But the way I understand it is, if you are going to an organized event where invites were sent out, and you are bringing a gift for somebody, i.e.

16:04a baby shower, a wedding shower, you take that gift for the guest of honor. You do not take a gift for the person that hosted it. I completely agree because, as you said before, the person hosting it gets the gift. From the person they are hosting it for. Now, if we have a dinner party and we invite 10 couples and we're hosting and we're providing the meal X, Y, Z, and people want to bring a bottle of wine or sometimes our friends bring us flowers, that's fine. But unnecessary. Completely unnecessary. But I understand in that regard where if you wanted to like, so Harrison in this example loves to take something.

16:42So we always take something if we're going to a dinner party. yeah and i'm saying that when like when you when time is not on your side and you need something quick but to cover your base the whole foods orchid yeah yeah yeah like yeah worse they're there all the time yeah i realized we forgot to do dessert last night we also we did forget to do dessert and i know she likes cookies so i do feel bad about that but i will say my mom gave harrison and i whenever we got married monogram placemats that we've never used and last night we pulled them out and like actually set the table which we definitely don't do with the kids because like it's just like tate tate ended up taking the place amount of putting it in her lap as a napkin but like it's not we're not in the phase of life where we're setting the table but that was really fun to be able to do some place setting yeah what goes into the larger theme of like i love cooking

17:39big, extravagant meals is maybe what we want to call them. Like I love putting a lot of effort into the meals. And the reality of you as a person is you don't really care whether I'm taking ground turkey out of the fridge, putting some salt and pepper on it and cooking it in seven minutes or spending seven hours cooking a piece of meat and accompanying four to five sides around it. And so the kind of a halfway compromise is when I'm going to cook big meals, we're going to have people over. Well, it's live to eat versus eat to live. Yeah. Or somebody being a foodie, which I'm just - But that itch wasn't like, I wasn't scratching my own itch of cooking big meals.

18:26And so rather than go out for dinner, I like this having people over. What's the term for an app? Like I, when I'm going to go to a restaurant, so we're going to go to Washington DC for the high rocks and we're going with four other couples. The boys are all running the race. And the night before I was like, I want to go to a really fun restaurant. We're there for one night with four of our best friends. And I was like, I really want a good vibe. But so I was asking somebody for a rec and they were like, are you going to optimize for food? Are you going to optimize for atmosphere? And I was like, atmosphere every time.

18:57Like if the food is – I don't want the food to be bad. We talked about this before. Like the base rate of food at a restaurant is pretty consistent. Like you sit in that range where it's hard to actually stand out and it's also hard for it to be bad. So service and vibe much more important. So I have a question for Jules. Okay. Because this got brought up on the boat. We did a boat day on Saturday. And we were talking – Ooh, I know the question. It's a good question for Jules. It's got to be for Jules. Yeah. So we were discussing a birthday party and it was on a Saturday night. And one of my friends was like, there might not even be alcohol there because she's pregnant.

19:37So she doesn't drink right now. And one of the other girls was like, I don't. Do you do you do that? Like if you don't drink. So if you have a wedding and let's say the bride and the groom don't drink, do you offer alcohol for your guests or not? and it could be a cash bar scenario or do you not? Birthday party or wedding? You offer it. You offer it? I think, well I guess it depends on like the reason that you don't drink but like if you were morally opposed to drinking then I suppose you wouldn't offer it. If you don't drink by choice because like you're not you know, you don't like the effects or the health of my own side I think it's a wild move to host and not offer it's like saying i'm gonna take i'm gonna take it i think there's an unbelievable parallel here it's like saying you know what so at a wedding i don't eat salmon i don't eat fish so we're not gonna have a fish option in our wedding yeah i think wedding is different than like birthday birthday or dinner party or something like that like if i was doing a birthday party at my house i would say byob like i'm not supplying alcohol for people for a birthday party at my house but you're letting them byob but of course of course but i'm not like being like i'm the one that's supplying the aperol spritzes right i'm not gonna make you this yeah but i also think it's a very good um oh i'm losing the word i'm looking for like clarification act if you're hosting a birthday and you're not serving booze but you put on the invite byob that is a great cover of your basis right that's very open and inclusive versus if you're hosting the birthday party and you don't have anything on the invite and you don't serve booze then i feel like you go to the point of not being a good host yeah this is hard for me to answer because like i'm not hosting a birthday party right right and single wedding like i don't give me the if you're not going to serve booze totally understand if you don't drink and you don't totally understand put that byob on yeah well or yeah and i'm the guy that's not really like i'm drinking very very sparingly like on the boat on saturday i didn't uh i didn't drink yeah you're just doing non-alcs so i i think but i brought beers for other people right and we'll do that a lot or like if we host and like we're like we're not going to drink we'll just have out we'll just put out bottles of wine that's very nice of you i would never but we also we're gonna have it in the house right so it's just easy for like we'll just go to the cabinet and grab it right put it over ice okay now here's my other thing that i'm thinking of when it comes to weddings okay because a lot of times at weddings i think like they go late and there's people are drinking and blah blah blah what about i was just thinking like I would love it if somebody invited me to a Sunday morning wedding where you wore more of like a brunch outfit and like we had a coffee bar and things like that.

22:55Like I was kind of wondering why people don't do more of that. I completely agree. My thing about weddings is like why are all weddings like essentially the same when everyone's so different? Jules, it's a groundbreaking thought. Like I couldn't have like just like some normal nighttime wedding because like I don't – that's not my vibe. I don't enjoy that at all. I don't particularly enjoy going to them, you know? Fair. So, like, why would I have them just because that's the way that it's supposed to be? I really think about that often. So, like, so some people love, some people aren't night owls.

23:29Right. Some people love the mornings. They love coffee more than anything else. And they are optimizing for the mornings. Like, I love going to dinner and I love going out sometimes. So, like, a nighttime wedding for me will make a lot of sense for us. but i don't understand why people aren't taking over the sunday morning brunch option i agree well i i'd push back on the sunday morning and more so the saturday fine do saturday yeah i just think like we have an epidemic of everyone doing the same thing when like everyone's so different and you just do it because you think you're supposed to do it that way and some there's some people that there's some riding grooms that are like oh i gotta stay up It's like, just don't.

24:11I love this idea of doing something different. I have a minor suggestion. For our wedding, what? Because what if we pivot our Friday night plans, which we've not said on the internet, and we do it Saturday during the day. Love it. And make that the main event. Love it. What do you guys call a day party in college? Darty. I don't think we did. I think that Darty was adopted. I think that term came to me when I moved to the U.S. We were darties. They were formally called that. What about you? A darty, but then it became a daiger for a while. Love daiger. I love daiger. I've never heard that. Daiger.

24:52We might have to call it that. Yeah. We might have to call it our wedding daiger. Saturday, our Friday plans being on Saturday, changes my view of the wedding. Me too. you've just unlocked something massive for me. Because like I was so stuck on this. So we knew what we were going to do for Friday night of our wedding. And loved it. We're so, it's our number one. Like we're so excited about it. But it needs to be the Saturday. Yeah, duh. Jules, thank you for that. Just why, that's our favorite. That's our favorite thing on the planet. And we still do something, that big fun dinner on the Friday night.

25:24But that's going to be easier to slot. And I know why I want to do it. Okay, great. Tell me. We'll bleep it. Love it. Okay, wow. Harrison and I now, now guys, we kept, we kept, you know, kicking the can down the road on this wedding thing. Look out. Now we're going to plan it. Yep. Love it. Invites do the whole thing. Only thing. Okay. I don't know the deal with live music at that venue. We're going to figure it out. Okay. I I'll raise you one better. If that venue is in the middle of the day, I'm down to do a DJ. That venue is fun. No matter what it does not need to be. yeah you don't need a band you don't i've heard that we've cycled to that bands are cheaper than djs now i'm interested in exploring that at the last wedding that i was at that that was the news i was given is that they got their they had oh it was so cool this could be fun okay have you guys been to a dueling piano bar yes they had the dueling piano wedding it was great i love that and then you sing along yeah well not really like yes just a normal amount oh but it was like dual it was two pianists like a sax and a um drum guy and they just they took requests all night and they just oh it was the best ever this could be this could be the move for friday and apparently it's cheaper than a dj so djs have gone up i don't know i think okay it's very interesting yeah i do i think this is our unlock why why i already knew we weren't gonna do like floral tablescapes with like monogram menus like it's not gonna be that vibe but i needed to unlock the rest of it and i just like i love the food situation there i'm pumped do you know where we're talking about no and we have to like okay can you bleep it yes but okay no we're gonna keep jules on our toes no i'm saying like yeah it's not a good listening experience yeah when they don't know yes okay fair fair what are we worried about someone stealing our idea yes okay so we're not never seen a wedding down here okay okay i think i know what you're talking about um let's do the baby list follow-up so i had a lot of fun doing these the registries went in but got got i definitely erred towards getting you your breast milk breastfeeding supplies um a lot of the mom cozy.

27:53Well, I did breast pumps. I did the breast bras, the breastfeeding bras. And then I did the, um, that mom cozy temperature regulator for the milk. Oh, so I did. I bought a lot of those, but I also did some carriers. Anyways, it was a blast doing it. I'm going to keep doing it throughout this week too. Just like sometimes when I'm sitting in bed, I'll just pop on there and I like reading your messages. So thank you for the context. Um, and yeah, that was a really fun initiative anything you want to say um no very nice of you okay here's here's a question for you and it's a tough one okay but peanut butter is peanut butter sweet or is it savory because this is an internet discussion right now and initially you're like it's obviously sweet but then you're like but it's savory no it's sweet i feel like people are completely missing the mark on this okay depends on what type of peanut butter you eat some companies add sugar to it others don't if you're buying the straight peanut and uh like the if you're buying straight peanut peanut butter savory if you're buying the jiffy with added sugar sweet no it's still sweet i buy the just the ground peanuts from heba it's still a sweet treat so here's my thing If I'm craving something - Are you sure?

29:19Yes. Yeah. If I'm craving something sweet and I eat peanut butter on anything, it satisfies that. If I'm craving something savory, anything short of a French fry is not going to solve it for me. So it can never fall in my savory category. It can't. Sweet all the way. It's a very neutral food. That's what I was thinking. At the end of the day, it's a very neutral food. it's not it's not gonna hit either one of those extreme cravings it hits me no it hits the sweet like i think the girl talked about peanut butter pretzels in the video you're not but you're not i know i can speak to you you're not a sweet person you don't crave chocolate sometimes i do like my uncle paul I guarantee if you text him right now he wouldn't say it's sweet because he loves sweets right but it's more okay so if you have a and the same way you just said you love savory and there's nothing that will hit that savory craving like a french fry so I think that that's what this is coming down to I just think the best example is the peanut butter pretzels because like if we're putting pretzels and peanut butter oops pretzels and peanut butter pretzels in front of me pretzels are savory and peanut butter pretzels are sweet

30:44just a great disagree but i'd also assume people are talking about this i'd assume that that like let's pull up peanut butter pretzels and let's look at how much added sugars in those but peanut butter pretzels to me that does matter but hold on peanut butter pretzels to me are still savory really they're erring on the savory side so i listen i think if one is salty and savory and 10 is sweet peanut butter is a six it's not super sweet it's not an oreo i totally agree it's a six yeah and that's where i'm gonna conclude my my statement on this the reason why there's so much debate is because it it sits in that middle and so it can swing from it's a five a four to a six yeah these generic peanut butter pretzels have one gram of added sugar per serving did you asked chat to be too if it's savory or sweet oh no i didn't it could be a good parlay into some ai talking points ai discussion points chat's never had peanut butter like why does it get this is where this is where ai is starting to drive me crazy why does it how is it gonna know it would well okay it's technically savory peanuts are legumes and the nut itself is fatty salty and numami half of the word half of the world uses it that way half the world uses it as sweet ask it on a scale of one to ten with one being sweet and ten being salty where do you rank it and then ask it if it's ever personally had it well a 6.5 wow good job okay now jules can you ask it just so i can understand say have you ever tried it no i don't eat so i've never tasted anything so where are you getting this information from i have a huge amount of secondhand data okay how people write about it how people write about the taste the smell the blah blah blah yeah okay so i need somebody to dumbed down artificial intelligence for me really quickly.

32:57Who created it? Because there is no question you can't ask this thing that it doesn't have some answer for. Can we save this conversation for another time? Sure. Okay, you guys, one thing I've been trying to be more intentional than ever about is what I'm actually putting in my body every day. And omega-3 keeps coming up as basically the new multivitamin. It supports heart health, brain function, mood, healthy aging, all of it. If you're only going to get one thing right in your daily routine, this is the kind of thing it needs to be. Because let's be honest, most of us are not eating enough fatty fish to get anywhere close to a meaningful amount.

33:35That's where Aqua Omega comes in. Here's what I love. Not all fish oil is created equal, and honestly, a lot of them are mostly filler, which is disgusting. Aqua Omega delivers one of the highest concentrations of EPA and DHA per serving without the luxury price tag. Every batch is independently third-party tested for purity, potency, and freshness through one of the world's largest leading fish oil certification programs. It's also friend of the sea certified, which just makes me feel really good about it. And one of my favorite things, for every bottle sold, Aqua Omega removes one pound of plastics and debris from the ocean and coastlines.

34:13So you're supporting your own health while helping the planet at the same time. Go to myaquaomega.com slash two parents and use code two parents for 20 % off. That's myaquaomega.com slash two parents and use code two parents for 20 % off. Also available on Amazon. Thanks to Aqua Omega for sponsoring this episode. So what's your AI? What do you want to talk about? We have two AI things. Do you want the AI for good or the AI for bad? I think you've always got to do bad news first, good news second. Oh, I was asking Jules. Okay. What she said. Okay. Bad first. Okay. Did you see the ChatGBT Apple iMessage integration?

34:57No. Okay. ChatGBT integrating with iMessage so it can scan your messages, mark out your to-dos, craft responses for you. ChatGBT has entered the texting chat. I hate it. Why? Why? Just because like, sorry, how can it send a text message on your behalf from your phone and it's your contact information and it's not you? Like that's where I really struggle with. So basically the way it works right now. So you install the integration and then you'd say, hey, please pull up all my texts that I need to reply to and then craft responses. It'll give you the responses and then you approve them. So it's not auto sending them, but I believe you can turn on the auto send functionality.

35:48So if somebody says, hey, Alex, do you want to go on a walk Friday at 10 a.m. Get coffee beforehand? It's going to is it going to ask me if I want to go? Yes. It's going to say, do you want to go on a walk? It'll say, Hannah asked you this. Do you want to do it? But it'll add your likely your schedule looks your calendar looks free. So in that regard, fine, I like it. But in another regard, like where it's texting somebody back, I don't know. Something about it's not sitting right. Here's what I need. What? Here's what I need with this. I need Apple to jump in and put at the bottom of every message sent with ChatGPT.

36:35If it is sent with ChatGPT. That's what I need. no but then I'm gonna be like okay so if Jules sends me something with chat gbtm and I'm responding but did you read it did you know you sent it but the base rate is she did and assuming it makes sense you can you can say that but if it didn't make sense yeah then it you could go back but I think it's very important context for the end user to have and even the sender to have just the the little notate the little note this is like this is this is honestly overstimulating Like we're going to be sitting at the dinner table with our kids in 20 years and they're going to be laughing being like mom and dad used to write their own text messages.

37:16Like can you imagine? Yeah. Like having to reply to all your friends. But it's like writing handwritten letters. But Harrison, it's very, very difficult for me to comprehend. Like so now I'm going to stop writing my own text messages. Where are we going to go from here? like it's a bit change i know is a good thing it's just it's a little scary like we're not driving our own cars we're not writing our own text messages but all this energy can be put to other places now what am i doing like if i can't text you back what am i doing but how what it's like you're arguing that that texting is some productive activity for society well i'm not i'm not arguing at all i'm saying i'm overwhelmed by the amount of technology available i love texting i'm it's scaring me you're passionate jules is very neutral on this subject yeah i'm just not sure i'm overwhelmed i'm i'm all for it i'm just all for transparency around what's happening i think it just like remove it removes a human element of communication where there's like already so many misunderstandings over text message because like there's already a screen between you and another person.

38:35So it just like adds another element of that. It's a little. Unless it's better at communication. We're getting further and further away from like people are already dealing with like people are isolated. People are feeling lonely. There's this whole epidemic going on. And now you're telling me between me and Jules's text message it's going to be two robots talking yeah on our behalf freaky it is it's just a little it's just i just it's all this ai stuff is all happening so fast that it's yeah it's a bit overwhelming for me and i'm and i'm a millennial who understands technology so i can only imagine how that feels for somebody in their 50s and 60s no but i my i hear you on it i just think the other side of the equation is previous generations would have been said the same thing about going from writing letters to cell phones no i'm and i'm for it and i understand this is how technology works and you need to ride the wave and we need to welcome it not fight it and i'll do that i will i will welcome the the ai agent i have a cell phone thing that i learned while i was at home that was maybe just slightly happened before i could understand when you first got when people first got cell phones you had to be on the same network as other people to get calls yes we need to debunk this i don't think that's true because that's apparently why my whole family has what we have we don't need to dox it but it's the worst thing ever no but i i think there's got to be some get like some truth but some gap there like maybe calling yes no no that's calling calling between them was maybe free like at &t to at &t was free and it'd be like five cents to call verizon you could you could call the other people but texting may have been free so there were price breaks that's not how it worked okay well now this isn't groundbreaking anymore that's totally it yeah well i didn't even know that it was cheaper and that's why my whole family like whole extended family we all have the same plan even though everyone hates it but no one knows how to like no one no one's breaking free from it still you can't hardly it's so hard these days to like go you got to go to the store i mean it is that'll be the next thing that's pretty automated i mean apple's doing a good job but i'll also say this on this tech situation the book i'm reading careless people and i'm getting a lot of dms from people that are also reading it because the pod you know we're reading it on the podcast now.

41:09And so I don't know if I'm on chapter, I don't know, I'm on page 120. I don't know what chapter that is, maybe 12. So if I'm going to spoil something for you, go like skip, you know, three minutes right now. But listening to this girl, she had a baby. Sheryl Sandberg, is that her last name? Yeah. Sheryl Sandberg, okay. So she works, she was number like 12 at Facebook. Wait, I thought it wasn't Sheryl. It's not. Oh, okay. It's Sarah. Cheryl Sandberg is number two at Facebook. Yeah, this girl's number 12 is right in the book. Okay. So she works for Cheryl. And Cheryl has kids, right? Yeah. This woman, she gets pregnant while she's at Facebook.