Youth sports, toilet learning vs. potty training & when should parents start "dressing their age"?!

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1:07We're just going to start with the welcome. Feels weird. All right. Welcome back to another episode of Two Parents in a Podcast. We cannot. We can talk about something different that was on my mind this morning. Okay. That maybe the team and the listener can chime in on. So the dynamic that I'm dealing with right now is i'm wearing workout stuff every episode yep because after the episodes i'm working out yep fit fam rise up should i not just be bringing wearing like a nice outfit to record and then once recording is done changing into the workout outfit i got an idea i got an idea here for a guy that likes convenience just up your workout game a little merge the two go a little more swag it's impossible no it's not no that it with that mentality anything's impossible no because my style is going more collared shirt oriented i'm i'm getting back into the style i fell in love with on the first date okay this person right here beside me i you were wearing like some kind of like low sitting dark jeans with the common project shoes you had on a wife beater with like a rob's popcorn old school jacket over and then a bomber over like you couldn't have looked in my opinion cooler and then here we go we're going to transition to the collared shirts a couple things i was wearing a collared shirt that night you can okay a collared shirt that like was monogrammed like a Rob's popcorn like it's a greaser bowling shirt with a collar.

2:55My hands are so jackets used to be fundamental to my key part of my fashion. Jackets as in blazers? No like different types of coats. Like a bomber. What I wore that night was a coat. It was a bomber jacket. My style options living in Austin when it's so hot when you gotta be in short sleeve shirts most of the time you're just very limited. No that Harrison what you you are boxing yourself in that does not mean you must wear a collared shirt graphic tees you're cool not that collared shirts are not cool collared shirts are very cool they are different than what Harrison used to wear to bring it all together I I go through like different phases and I'm I'm in a uh inspired by fashion phase right now and I I wanted I got this really cool us open shirt i wanted to wear today and i maybe i'll just bring my outfits for the week on monday and then i can record in outfits and then once we're done recording put on my gym clothes no i think people really like to express themselves their workout clothes and i think you could do more of that no i love my workout clothes okay well i don't know what to tell you what do we think jules i think everyone should wear what they're most comfortable in this is a come as you are podcast so if you're comfortable in collar shirts come in your collar shirt yeah pc answer from jules that's not a pc answer i'm a big fan of come as you are in life yeah that's not pc at all that's true to probably the opposite of pc i agree okay jules is not saying dress for the occasion she's saying dress for your heart however i was just talking about my my last workplace the the dress code was come as you are in a corporate setting that was the definition yes people would wear leggings people would wear pajama pants sometimes oh i couldn't get on board with that here i am wearing pajama pants right now there's a there's a deeper subject here okay there's a deeper subject that we just scratched the surface on workplace dress code no at what point should a man transition from dressing trendy to dressing old because i think that that's the the i think i kind of was like letting myself like almost trying to pass a fast one there i used to dress very trendy and it feels like is this now the time did i tighten it up no No.

5:34Why are you? I'm a dad of two. Yeah, but you should just be true to yourself. If you want to wear the collared shirts, you should wear the collared shirts. But you shouldn't feel pressure to wear the collared shirts because you're a dad of two of a certain age. Yeah, I completely agree with this. Like, what is going on? That is like saying because of a certain age, you're okay. We've actually scratched the surface on an even deeper issue now. Just because you're a certain age does not mean you need to throw in the towel and start doing certain things. I'm more so talking to the concept of dressing your age when's Alex gonna get a mom haircut yeah when you want to throw my bob in here what do you want me to do that should I just do it because I'm a mom of two now like should I just go get my minivan like are you serious or I would love if we got a minivan me too that's a bad example because those are sweet but you know you don't have to do these things because we're a certain age you have a certain number of kids But I don't dress like I'm still in high school No one's Like what are these extremes you're doing I felt like I was dressing a little young Harrison's gonna come up to the next recording In a full suit Truly and then like make that his But that's what I should be doing On the Tropic Jewels in New York I went to get a couple sport coats Didn't get them You know why I didn't get them We live in Austin Yeah cause you don't wear them that often No cause I walked in there And this guy he wanted nothing to do with me my friends and i have been talking about this that's the new vibe in stores and it's like i'm here to spend money why are you not i was base rate buying two sport coats would have maybe bought three and the first dude like totally brushed me up now the second gentleman came in and tried tried to like save the day but i was just out of the buying mindset at that point you know what i think it was harrison was in a very similar outfit to what he's wearing now no i don't think the guy took him seriously no i was wearing my uh all blue collared shirt i was wearing a very good outfit i thought about the outfit i was gonna wear i dressed for the occasion and they still wrote you off yeah yeah this guy he didn't want anything to do with harrison he he basically was saying don't buy a jacket yeah no that's like the vibe of people in stores these days.

7:54I think there's a fine line. If I go into a store and you won't stop talking to me, I will leave. Like if you keep saying like, well, what can I get for you? Or try this with that. It's like, no, I got it. I'll ask you if I would like some help. But to take it to the other extreme of just being rude, I'm like, just strike the middle. Let me know if you need help. And I would love to let you know if I need help. Yeah. I think there could be a middle ground there. Kirsten, I'm very upset with you. There were a couple unbelievable things that happened with this guy. so um i asked a question what what was the first question i asked that he just completely dunked on do you have any ready to wear something like that no i i asked if if i asked if he had anything in burnt orange oh yeah and he's like no that's gonna be hard that's gonna be hard to find in ready to wear we'd have to make that custom and i was just like oh like what is what does making custom mean and he was like we make it custom i was like well i just what but then the craziest part of all the other guy who comes in it's like he's kind of talking me through things like oh by the way everything is 50 off the whole so the first guy didn't even tell us that like the whole freaking suit area was 50 off um he had a bad attitude and he lost the sale yeah and Harrison doesn't have any sport coats now.

9:17And we lost too. Everyone lost. Here's what I'll say. It was a big L day. Chad has found another place in Austin. Chad doesn't also know that this all happened. That was Hannah's husband. We're going to tell him tomorrow. He sent me to this store. You're going to see him today. He also is a better dresser than me. He's a great dresser. Sorry, we're seeing him today. I think Chad would be upset if I told him, you know, you were going to age out of being cool. You've decided to, what is it? What do you surrender with? Wave the white flag? Yeah. But Chad dresses older. Do you want me to get you a white flag?

9:45But Chad dresses true to himself. That's the point. But my new self. Because you're a dad of two? Because I'm maturing. Okay. But no, does anybody not know, like, can you think of a dad that you used to know when you were in high school that always dressed cool? I've historically always been the most casual person at every occasion I go to. You can be casual, but you can be cool and casual. Okay. and i just is is the time ending for that no i also i like i want you to keep all right you put no i your your opinion is what matters most here what i will say is it feels like we are running long on this subject and i don't want people to get bored all right let's move on all right welcome back to another episode of two parents in a podcast um all right guys happy friday i do want to make a note because today is 9-11 and we are 25 it's been 25 years since the 9-11 attacks happened.

10:44And I know me, like I opened up my Instagram feed today and I'm just hit with like, oh, influx of emotions. I always hear the phone call and it's just, it's a very heavy day. And I feel like it's very important that we one, acknowledge it. Number two, we don't forget it. So a sad note to start on, but. Absolutely. What do you mean you hear the phone call? There was the phone call. It's the woman and she calls her husband and she's like, I'm on the plane. We're having some plane trouble. she says, I'm comfortable right now, but tell my family I love them and I love you very much. But she just keeps saying, we are having some plane trouble.

11:20Oh, it's heart-wrenching. It's gut-wrenching. No, obviously an incredibly tragic day that affected the world in such a big way. And yes, we must never forget. Do you remember where you were? I do. I do I remember I was in um fifth grade or maybe fourth grade but I was in line we had to line up and sit down and get called to go on you know I don't know was it a Friday I don't know I can look yeah I think it was a Friday I was gonna say because on Fridays we did this line so that would be that's interesting I wonder why I remember that

12:07hold on I just want to see if it was a Friday because we had we would line up with our backpacks and you'd have to sit down until your line was called.

12:17It was a Tuesday. A Tuesday? Oh. Hmm. I wonder why I was in this line. I was, but yeah, I do remember where I was. I remember right where I was in the gym at Charles Haskell. Where were you? So I was in Vancouver, and we're in West Coast time. So we were waking up to it. Oh, wow, yeah. And I vividly remember my parents were out of town. My Aunt Karen was staying with us. And I was sleeping at the foot of my parents' bed. So I slept on the floor and my aunt was in the bed. And at that time, our alarm clock was the radio. Oh, wow. And so we woke up with the radio. And I remember it was like the first thing we heard.

13:12I'm sure. And then we turned on the TV. And then I didn't go to school for the first half of the day. And then she took me after lunch. I think a lot of people, like I left school. Yeah, I got picked up from school. I was in kindergarten, so I don't really remember. I just think it was so scary because people didn't know what was going to happen throughout the day. And so a lot of people did go home. It's chilling to think about. And it's just horrific. So anyways, it's going to be tough to follow that and transition here, but we did not want to start the episode without acknowledging it. Absolutely.

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18:12Yeah. Fact. This is going to work out. The kid is going to learn how to use the toilet. Like let's not make this a big major stress point for anyone in the house. Right. Let's make it fun. We've made pot. We have made toilet learning potty training so fun. We, when, when we get a, when we get the bathroom usage, correct party dance party and she's running around. We're high-fiving. If we miss, we're also very happy about it because we get to learn. So anyways, toilet learning, developmental process where a child recognizes their own bodily cues, which is very much what we're doing, and they build independence over time versus potty training, which is an adult-directed.

18:55I think that's the key word. Toilet learning is kind of like you figure it out. Potty training is adult-directed, schedule-driven method focused on achieving a specific outcome, i.e. using the toilet. So what do they want us to call pee? Urine. Oh, get out of here. This is just ridiculous. The internet has to get out of here. They want us to call it urine. We can't call it pee-pee. We have to call it urine. No, there's pee-pees and poo-poos. We're done. What do they want us to call poop? I think poop. I'm sure there's a more formal word for that. Peces, I don't know. Peces and urine. like we should play a prank on the neighbors though with a straight face and be like we did some research we need to call it urine and pieces and just like see the look on their face and just and be like that's that's how we're gonna do it in our household what are you guys thinking we'd really like to get on the same page we really think it's important and we're not gonna call it potty training it needs to be toilet learning yeah it's it diabolical i'm glad there's a name for it i am glad there's a name for it because it does feel like it is a different process like the parent directing it versus the kid directing like we we didn't direct this one i'd like to call it figuring out the bathroom but it stops it it stops there for me it's for me did they comment you need to call it urine no no one commented that that wasn't my research we just need to we're gonna keep going with the flow she's she's doing it more she's loving it She's liking it.

20:23And who knows? If we keep it this pace, we'll be out of diapers faster than I would have thought. If we don't, then we'll be in them for longer. She also knows. Okay, so you guys know how we were on the fence about having her birthday party? Oh, yeah. Then we took her to the venue and showed her, this is where you had your first birthday. Does Tate want to have a birthday again? And I think it is because it was just Maria's birthday and we made her the card. And I did the video. 100%. And I explained to her, it's Maria's birthday. This present is for Maria. Happy birthday, Maria. Tate, I'm like, whose birthday's coming up?

20:56Happy birthday, Tate. She knows it's her birthday. And then you say, how old are you going to be? Two. So I'm so happy we decided to do the birthday party. So post birthday, are you going to strictly call her two for the next year? Yes. No, two, two and a half, three. That's what you're asking? Yeah. Yeah. Two, two and a half, three. That's my take. But to her, she'll just be two. Yeah. I was just wondering. But we are going to celebrate Rocky's six months. Hold on. I think that it could be important if she can grasp the concept of two and a half. Because that way she understands there's an eventual transition to three.

21:36And it's not just going to seem like it's one day. Okay. Then she's halfway. I don't know if kids that age can take that in. Because I don't know who we were talking to, but someone was telling. well maybe it wasn't you guys i think i was maybe elsewhere but someone was telling me that their kid was two i was like there's no way this kid is two and oh i was at a birthday party and um the dad was like well she turns three in like a month you can't be telling me this kid is two but he could have said she was two and a half easy no i i now say when somebody asks me how how old tate is i say almost two that's been my new answer almost two then she'll be almost three Yeah, I like this.

22:18Just turn two, two and a half, about to turn three. Or, yeah, she's a two plus. She's really like a ripe two. Because I agree, Jules. There's such a big difference at two, two and a half, and three. Yeah. So it is. That's a very good point. So with the birthday party, I made a video talking about how we're going to do the Pink Pony Club. because the theme is two-step and Tate's two-step. Two, get it? Tate's two-step. And the reason I had to tell everyone the theme was because somebody commented and had all these likes. And I was like, well, now, hold on. I already have the invite designed. So I was like, okay, it's Tate's two-step.

22:59And I was like, emphasis on the Pink Pony Club. Then everyone starts commenting, the Pink Pony Club is a strip club. Yeah, I had no idea that it's about and I've been listening to Chapel Rowan's Pink Pony Club now knowing that it's changed the song for me. I know. I was like, oh my God, we're at the Pink Pony Club with the pink ponies hopping around. Also, part of why I really didn't understand that is, isn't Chapel Rhone really young? And so the idea of her talk singing about strip clubs, that was a jump I didn't see. She's going to keep on dancing down in West Hollywood at the Pink Pony Club.

23:31Yeah. And I always thought it was just a club of ponies. It's more of, I think, a cultural thing, not like she's talking about a stripper. Pink Pony Club. Mm-hmm. can we can we switch the last word yes to what because pink pony party no no we're having a we're having a two-step you're having a two-step we're having tate's two-step so we're in the clear there okay you should tell the crowd what the what a two-step is a texas thing it is a texas two-step it is a form of country dance and we are gonna have a two-step teacher come teach the two-step are you having the girl from the white horse tavern I don't know do you have a girl yet yeah should I have the white horse have a girl I don't know do you actually have a girl I actually paid this morning and I have a girl okay because you signed my email up or something and I'm just getting all these people reaching out to me I did put your email on the off chance I missed it then I got a DM from a girl what is it I want to get the I want to get the pub pony she's like can I bring my pony to Tate's birthday and I will do her hair pink and I was like can you would you please?

24:38Then I go to her page. It is a bar pony service in Austin. So she does this for weddings. She, this is, this is genius. Like thinking outside the box, she puts like a sort of a saddle type, but it's actually a basket and it delivers cocktails. The pony does. And I know people might think that's misuse of ponies. It's not. These are very, these are very happy ponies that live a very happy life and they do like i love i love the way that i think it's very important how horses are treated i looked at her page and all that these are very well kept very beautiful very happy ponies that do they'd rather be doing this than they would be doing some other things i have no view on this i know you don't i do i i want to make sure horses are always are like i i've stopped riding the central park um oh yeah carriages like that to me no no actually actually an interesting thing too was whenever we went to charleston we did do a carriage ride i thought i don't know why it didn't dawn on me that maybe that wasn't okay and i still need to research more into that you can sound off in the comments if you think that's bad i thought those horses were kept in a really nice place but i do understand horses don't want to be pulling carriages i think horses can pull carriages just not in manhattan on the cement yeah yeah right in the traffic and like like the like i just feel really sorry for those horses anyways i i'm excited for these ponies to come she's gonna paint but like wait you're saying yeah i want to kind of get to i think so can a horse okay i know i'm with you i hear what you're saying can a horse come and be pet like they're just gonna get loved on no i understand that well just to bring in the drinks was kind of like oh we're not doing that okay have you guys seen this isn't funny have you guys seen the um conversation online comparing children to horses and carriages no essentially what this conversation online is is like the only people that are going to be having children moving forward are essentially people that love having children because there's not necessarily like a need for them like there was back in the day of like needing them to take care of you when you're older and all that kind of stuff.

27:00Just like the horse and carriage when the car became a thing, people no longer need horses. So the only people that have horses are the people that love horses. hold on who say we don't need kids anymore yeah i think that i think that the opening line there is just very flawed like we're trending below replacement value of society like we're gonna run out of humans at our current rate that's not my problem who is saying we don't need oh everyone this this horse and carriage as compared to kids thing is like everywhere on my for you page okay but then like we're accepting society ending i guess good time for ai jewels again that's not my problem on that note it did that is your problem with the world is that not a good transition no because i'm not done on my pink pony party sorry she's gonna glitter the hooves pink i love it i'm so excited no no i think it's so i just don't know what you're like allowed to do or not allowed to do on this stuff so i'm sticking on the sidelines i trust that you're going to make sure that all is on side.

28:06Well, no, I hope that it is on side with this, but sometimes I don't know what I don't know. I think, though, that it's adorable, and I'm very excited. And we're in a big horse phase because they neigh, and we do that a lot. So I'm excited about the horses. Okay, so anyways, Tate's party, it's a full go. Yeah, we can transition to apparently AI, this big headline this week, could kill us all. and how could AI kill us all? Because you see that headline and you're like - Well, let's set the story of what happened and how this whole storyline got going. Jules, do you want to kick it off or do you want me to?

28:46You can go ahead. So there was a guy and he spent, let's call it, three years working at OpenAI and then a few months working at Anthropic, who owns Claude and he tweeted and he essentially tweeted something along the lines of I'm resigning from Anthropic today and I'm resigning because of my fears around AI use and the view that AI could potentially kill us all at some point in the next 10 years so that was just like a throwaway tweet where he's just like this is like is that generally what the tweet said? He wasn't expecting I've seen a lot of tweets around it and replying to it. So I just want to make sure I got that first one.

29:35Yes. And I've mainly seen the news interview with him that came as a result of that tweet. But he wasn't expecting this to go viral. He was just like, this is like, I'd like to step down. Well, here is the question. I'm seeing three different trains of thought on this. Okay. Okay. Train of thought number one is what you just said. Like you have a guy who went, did his work at these companies and is generally fearful as to the harm that they can cause. Yep. Okay. That's number one. Okay. Number two, and two and three are more conspiracy theory in nature. Okay. but do have smart people behind them, is that one of Anthropik's strategies is to fearmonger in a way and put a lot of scary ideas out there.

30:32And the idea then being it will force government regulation around AI, which in theory would then be very good for the market leaders. Okay. Why would it be good for the market leaders? Because they thrive under they can survive that. They've already built their share and so they can be a part of creating what that regulation looks like and you know weed out competitors. Yeah and make it tough for the competition. Okay. So you know so hypothetically uh anthropic goes or sorry to because i want to explain this because it isn't the clearest uh so all of these story lines hit the mainstream and people become very very very fearful of ai okay so the government goes we need to step in all right so government goes well what does that actually mean well let's go and let's work with the major players and let's make sure that they're doing all those things to keep things safe and anyone that comes up that isn't doing something that we think is safe can just get shut down okay is that clear yes so that's one potential that's one view of what could be going on.

32:01And then the third view, and this is the most conspiracy theoried in nature, is this guy who quit, he really didn't have much of a social following when he quit. After he tweeted that, allegedly, it was very quickly retreated by a bunch of political activists who are very anti very anti-ai and so there is the theory out there that this is like a you know essentially a government ran push to regulate ai so similar to two but this one not being the flip side of two controlled by anthropic so and people think that he would do that like because he's not he wasn't a big he had such a small social following no one would see it coming from him like why would they pick him that's a bit of a derail let's this is that's not what i want to focus on i want to focus more largely on okay is there any merit behind this because all that made the news was that ai could actually kill assault so how can that happen in theory it could happen in quite a different ways but largely in you know i think two the easiest way to think of it would be two buckets okay there'd be human misuse okay and so ai doesn't have the right guardrails around it and the ai we use has a lot of guardrails around it that can prevent humans from using it to do bad things but but some there was that person that's want to rob a bank and they're like okay let's discuss how exactly so that's misuse so so like one finding loopholes in it okay and even using the ai to help you find those loopholes okay um so there'd be human use misuse human misuse yeah okay the other would be this world where ai develops um a personality of its own and starts acting with uh starts acting poorly or acting in a bad way without any form of human controller initiative and so the ai decides that it wants to destroy civilization and then it goes and starts hacking things and you know potentially turning all the lights you know all the traffic lights green so it's creating accidents and like in the movies you can imagine how it would go from there and like a big thing that uh you're starting to see right now is the emergence of robotics are you guys seeing this or no no no so tesla's um big upcoming push is going to be on human robots a lot of people are very excited about the idea of robots in the home.

34:59Well, you know, AI will be central to that. Do you lose control of those robots? You know, a la what you see in the movie. A la Smart House? Yeah, I'm down for just like, I like the Roomba. That's as much robot as I want. Yeah. You guys know Smart House? Yeah, the movie? Heck yeah. So long story short. They made the robot movie recently where the robot fell in love with the husband. Oh, I don't know that one. Did you guys not see that? No. That was like recent. And there was like somebody really famous in it. Oh, this is, no, this is probably 10 years ago. What was it called? Megan Fox. Yeah, Megan Fox is in it.

35:32Her. Her. Her. Her, yeah. I really want to watch her. So long story short, I do believe - Nope, long story long. Long story long. I've talked about this before. I do believe we need regulation. I believe that it should be an independent regulatory authority that is formed by a group of players in the industry. And if I'm like Alex or I'm a listener and I'm a mom of two and I'm just like hearing all this, I'm overwhelmed, what should I be thinking? Here's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking I trust the process. I believe in – I believe positively in humanity and I think that this is going to bring a bunch of net good.

36:11And I think that we can look at almost every aspect of life and find the potential negative outcome. and that's not how I'm choosing how to live my life on this. Because I can paint a much clearer picture of positivity around AI than I can a negative one. I could point a very negative picture around AI, but I think that's a much lower, lower, lower probability of how things will shake out. Why worry about it twice? That's not how I want things to shake out. so what's what i'm going to take is a little different direction here what's interesting to me about this is in my book careless people okay should we say something about the dog yes please there's a dog next door do you think we could just give them a little knock or no i like it i think it's a good sound okay just tell the people that if you hear a dog barking it's not jenny bears it's not it's the office next door it's not jenny bears and it's not your own dog too correct oh that's even more important are we telling them we got a dog yet I don't know.

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39:14So I'm wondering the people like that in the driver's seat, what are they already moving on to? Well, it's a really, really, really good point. And it's what also puts merit on what the people at the companies are saying is they know so much more than we know. He's known about this for 10 years. The models that we're playing with are, Or, you know, we were just with a friend in New York. Like, he has access to different models than we have. Yes. So there's just a lot more out there than we know about. And it's funny that AI is, like, becoming mainstream now when Zucks, like, actually probably moved on to something new.

39:49Yeah. But I think you could have painted a very scary picture of what automobiles would do to society or what the internet would do to society. And does the internet cause harm to society? Absolutely. But does it bring significantly more good? Yes. The cure of cancer. Let's remember that. It's not cured cancer by any means, but it has. Remember, there was that really positive story about drastic strides in the medical system. So I do like to hold on to the positive things because here's where my mind goes as a mom. We can't, we're not, I don't sit in a position where I can stop it or affect it.

40:25So I'm just going to look for ways to hopefully embrace it and control it around my family. It's the best I can do. because other I mean it's going to be there it's kind of like food I want us to eat good food in the house but when we go out of the house I can't control you know if she goes to a friend's house can't control that um okay I'm going to move us to on this note of society you know forwarding its technology I don't know iPhone they did release it and it is a flip phone I've still not seen it actually you didn't google it foldable phone foldable foldable phone foldable phone yeah It basically unfolds to like a mini, like a Kindle.