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25:47Pascal Chimbonda:Sorry, 2002, I think it was. I finished playing in 94. They've got a big picture up of us winning the cup final for AFC. And I can fully understand, you know, what they've done there is second to what Wimbledon did, coming from non-league to the FA Cup, FA Trophy to FA Cup final in 25 years. Never been done before, never be done again. So I can fully understand the fans of the people at Wembley set up AFC and said, we don't do this anymore. We don't want to be mucked about by our owners. Fully understand that. And what they've done is phenomenal. But I just can't get my head around that I played for AFC Wimbledon.

26:25It might be a goalkeeper's kick away from the original stadium

26:29Pascal Chimbonda:over the Wondell Valley where the dog track was. So much as I support them and I'm a debenture holder, I'm a bond holder there. I have been to see them. I've been to see them at cup finals and such. I didn't play for AFC Wimbledon. So how can they say I played for them? And how can they? In fact, what happened? Milton Keynes-Dons in the end dropped the, In fact, they still call it Dons. But they changed the name from Wimbledon to MK Dons, didn't they? That was one step. And then all the stuff they had, like the Southern League stuff and all the stuff that Wimbledon won non-league, they all had that because that went with the club.

27:08Pascal Chimbonda:Obviously, the club moved from there to there. And it's a word you probably never come across, patrimony. Have you heard the word? Patrimony? No. It's all that stuff. It's their patrimony.

27:19Mr Parkin:Right. Right.

27:21Pascal Chimbonda:So they gave that back to Merton Council. On the understandings, I understand it, that they would give up the patrimony. They would not claim that they were Wimbledon. They would claim they would no longer associate, but they would give all the patrimony back to Merton Council to put in a museum. Not to Wimbledon, but to Merton Council. I understand now that they've got the museum at AFC Wimbledon with all that stuff in, so Merton Kings probably don't care anymore. but it's, you see what I say about that photograph? You know, it's, I haven't got, my club that I spent 10 years at, where is it? And they're both still playing.

28:00Mr Parkin:Yeah. Mud really, isn't it? I can understand fans being, you know,

28:05Pascal Chimbonda:I'll be castigated for this, but they can't claim I played for them. They can't claim they won the FA Cup because they didn't. Wimbledon won the FA Cup. The team of the fans who support them every week, even now, though, to be fair, it's a new generation of fans, which is good. So a lot of them would never have been at Wembley anyway. They formed the team that is now FC Wembley and that has got to where it is. And that's fantastic. It's as good a story in football as you'll get beyond the original story. But did they win the FA Cup?

28:34Mr Parkin:On paper, no. Yeah, you can see that it means something to him, can't you? Laurie. Yeah. Yeah, he was pretty. The football club that he won the FA Cup for basically does not exist anymore. Sad, that really, isn't it? For him. And the fans, Wimbledon fans and whatnot. And the rest of the players. But, on to a regular series episode now, Jermaine Pennant. Now, I mean, I love it when we get the stories with what we call the big ducks. I mean Champions League Liverpool Benitez Peperena Gerrard that era that's that's like the big dogs of growing up proper footballers aren't they and did we ask one question and got well you'll see a seven minute multiple layered crazy situation that goes on in the build up to a Champions League game when you're saying there's no boys left in the game these lads were boys I knew Pepe were but i don't remember i don't have pepe down as a yeah you're not seeing him singing and dancing and stuff and all that yeah but it's good fun on a night out pepe yeah i knew bellamy will be in the mix yeah well we've heard this story a few times the the golf club one i think that's where it starts but then i didn't know about the multiple arrests and well we'll find out have a listen from a from a social side was it was there a good squad at Liverpool

30:08Pascal Chimbonda:I said the closest ones I was well the funniest ones and Crouchy would be me like Crouchy and Craig Bellamy for a little short period you know Stevie and Cara they kind of kept themselves to themselves you're like you know they're the boss it's like boss so you don't really mingle boss do you um like management yeah yeah yeah there's gaffers so and then you've got the you have the spanish boys doing all their thing and then you have the french lads doing their thing so it'll be like me probably crouchy bellamy we would all get along yeah but you know you're different personalities yeah yeah were you there when bellamy and reese are at us yeah yeah yeah what was the crack there It was when we was in Portugal doing some warm weather training two weeks before we go to Athens for the Champions League final.

31:11Pascal Chimbonda:And we've managed to get the evening off. Rafa said, right, yeah, you can go out, relax, have a drink, get back before, like, oh, get back at midnight or whatnot. So some of the Spanish boys have sorted out a bar with a bit of karaoke. And obviously Belez is always loud and that was Craig back then. So Ginge Risa is at the bar, everyone's having drinks. He's then on the karaoke, he comes up, he calls out, Belly me. I said, oh, Belly's gone. Your turn. Have a singer song. Leave me off. Ginge, I'm cool. I'm all right. Not today. I can't be arsed. He's going, oh, you're not so fucking loud now, are you?

32:00Pascal Chimbonda:Come on, have a sing. No, no, Ginge, just leave it off. I'm not getting up. Goes off about five minutes trying to get him up, call him out. And then that's the end of it. And then it's time to go. Jersey dude X at the bar. and he turns around and nuts this lady by an accident. He just turns around and they're both clash heads. She's then like in tears, nose pouring with blood. The bartender, the barman doesn't see that. He just sees this woman crying with her nose bleeding. He's then called the police. Pepper Rainey's came over, tried to like stop it. So no, no, it was an accident. So we get outside, the police come.

32:43Pascal Chimbonda:jersey's drunk at this point he's then faced down on the bonnet with his own being handcuffed and we're thinking oh my god we've got a champions league final and a goalkeeper is being arrested so then pepe reina goes over starts speaking in spanish to him trying to explain no it was an accident it wasn't on purpose yeah he's a little bit drunk we'll take care of him that gets a a little bit heated. Pepper Rain is there. Oh, no. Who would have played next? Oh, my God. So then, we're thinking, shit, who's going to tell Rafa? So then... Stevie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So then they obviously told Rafa. Rafa then has to go to the station and bail them out, get them out.

33:35Pascal Chimbonda:Then there's me, Stevie, Robbie, and someone else will go back to their room to Cara just talk about the night have some drinks in the room Robbie Fowler's through the kitchen there's like a big hole where you know he's skimming skimming plates through one is Stevie in his head he's ain't got blood trickling down I'm thinking fuck it I've got a capsule with a split head We've got two of our goalkeepers in prison. Rafa's then gone down to get them out. And then opposite our room, there was Stephen Finning's room. And he's sharing with Risa. And bellies had just gone missing. And then next minute, we just heard, Oh, I'm sorry, Craig, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

34:34Pascal Chimbonda:So what's happened is Craig's gone back to his room to get his 7-iron. because there's a golf resort. So he's gone to get a seven iron. He then goes to Steve in his room, knocks on. Steve answers and he goes, oh, where's Ginge? I was laying in his bed. So he just like walks in, stands over him and goes, oh, do you want me to sing now, yeah? You want me to sing fucking now? Say something now. Whack! And he's like hitting him with his, oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Whack, whack. Then obviously he stops and says, don't ever call me out again, blah, blah, blah. Then Rafa gets back with the two goalkeepers.

35:16Pascal Chimbonda:He then sees murders going on with Finan and Craig, all carnage. I then walk out and then it goes in his spine, when there's trouble, why are you always here? I am the innocent part in this one. I was going to bed me.

35:39Mr Parkin:I was going to see Rafa walking into Autolabbing with one of Dudex years and one of the areas. I was like, two school kids.

35:45Pascal Chimbonda:So, Gene's got this massive bruise on the side of his, all sides down of his leg would get to training. The next day, we have a massive circle. And Rafa says, right, what the fuck happened yesterday? And then he's gone on and he says, right, nobody, nobody to talk about this. I don't want you to tell nobody. Leave this group of people. Ginge, thingy, is everything sorted now? Have you met? Kiss are made up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Point at the goalkeepers. I don't want to see you two near any fucking police. Yeah, it went mad. And then that was the end of that. And obviously we played Barcelona. And...

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37:40Mr Parkin:And to be fair, did it not get out then for that first period? It didn't get out, no. That's good for Rafa then, because he knows he can trust everyone, doesn't he?

37:49Pascal Chimbonda:Yeah, but the boys as well, you know, you've got Stevie saying, right, if I find out anyone, you know, it's going to be the hell to pay.

37:56Mr Parkin:And did the Kissing make up? Not literally that, but...

38:00Pascal Chimbonda:I think they did. Because to pull the celebration out,

38:03Mr Parkin:it's got to be put to bed, hasn't it?

38:06Pascal Chimbonda:They both scored in that game. It was Craig and Ginger scored in the game. And I think, yeah, I think it did get put to bed. And he apologised for being drunk and calling him out. And I'm sorry.

38:22Mr Parkin:I think it's taken a lot more than an apology if somebody's not fucked up with us, Ebeney. I hope we replaced his divots.

38:28Pascal Chimbonda:Etiquette.

38:29Mr Parkin:Bit of sand there, yeah. It's like a scene from Hanover, isn't it? What, the whole night? The whole thing, yeah. You're not putting one iron, Craig. Bellin's over here with a seven iron. Like, psycho. Yeah, I think it's taking a lot more than an apology for... What you want then? I want at least a pitching wedge back at him. You know what I mean? I'll have one shot you with my wedge.

38:51Pascal Chimbonda:It's fight talking, isn't it? Stephanie fight talking. Ola's done best.

38:56Mr Parkin:He's got completely away with washing plates around the restaurants. Yeah.

39:00Pascal Chimbonda:He was a lunatic. It's the kind of story you'd hear

39:04Mr Parkin:from a League Two team, isn't it? Crazy.

39:07Pascal Chimbonda:This is like preparing, you know, for Champions League thingy. Not no Mickey Mouse cup.

39:13Mr Parkin:See, the footballers, man, they give them an inch and we always take a yard, don't we?

39:17Pascal Chimbonda:Mile.

39:20Mr Parkin:By the way, I bet it hurt. We'll be in it with a golf club. Yeah. don't matter what even if it's only a pitching wedge think he's hit him with like the club end oh hi well who just shows a stick I'm just thinking if you hit take an eye into somebody's body it's gonna really hurt oh hi you've got to be committed though you can't be going in with handles I'm hitting him with a walking stick obviously you got you need your grip don't you you only told him to sing I think he's gone in with the the sort of pros finger locking grip do you know when he's hitting with it? oh you think he's gone baseball?

39:59Mr Parkin:oh baseball you can shank him then though can't you? a long stick to get a baseball stance you've got to stand back a bit if you want to get him with a club the club end when you play golf you drop the golf club and it's hit your kneecap hurts oh fucking hell not half it sends you a bit sick I think that's sackable offence really it's a bad one well do you know if you were working in Tesco's right and you just fucking hit somebody I don't think it's just a written warning is it Colin on fish counter to be fair as well he mentioned he got Vinita's went there's always trouble when you're around he wasn't even doing that but that's just his reputation innit could you see him with a golf club yeah I can see him losing it and knowing that he's as small as he is, he might be game as a badger, but there's a good chance folk are going to get on top of him, aren't there?

40:59Mr Parkin:I'd say it could have been a kid's club. You can get a better swing. But then plastic ones, they won't have hurt as much. Better swing. No, just a short one. Mini golf? Yeah. Putter. Putter would hurt. Imagine the putter on your kneecap. Any club. Name a club and I'll tell you if it'll hurt.

41:18Mr Parkin:Fred Flintstone. Seven hybrid. Oh. I reckon with a pitch and putt, a crazy golf putter, you'd be better over the head. What, like a hammer? Yeah. Because they've got a long end, don't they? Dink. I still hurt. Oh, yeah. I'm not questioning whether it hurts or not. It's just metal, isn't it? You're getting it with metal. Metal chunk. I mean, if you just go with the shaft, I reckon it'll probably snap it. Yeah. You know, if you hit somebody across the side with the shaft, I think the club would bend. Yeah. You know what I mean? You need to get fucking right on the end of the head. Even if you take the brolly out of the bag.

42:02Mr Parkin:Good tips this week. Brolly would hurt. Never mind it. Yeah. The actual club. The bag? Full bag? I'm not singing.

42:12Mr Parkin:Taking your sock off. Yes, simply saying. Did you take your sock off first? Yeah. What's next, Chris? Chaos at Brighton. That's what we've got next. Hartfield. Charlie Oatway. Is that a guy? No, no, no, no. This guy. Did you see Paul Merson recently said, somebody asked him who his toughest opponent was, and he went, there's a little guy called Charlie Oatway who marked us out of the game once. A little guy. So there's a compliment after it, but his little guy did him off to the start, aren't we? Yeah. I don't know if you've seen this episode, if you've not I recommend going to watch because his journey and the way that he talks about obviously his severe dyslexia not being able to read and write to the point where he was Gus Poyet's assistant manager at Atletico Madrid no you've had a shocker there that's another bad one where did he follow him to he went to he went to China he went to Greece Greece I knew it was Madrid in Greece yeah just down from I was trying to remember his foreign club Just green.

43:20Mr Parkin:Do you want to start again now? No, no, no. Just down from Papos, I think. Is it the Madrid-Papos derby? I thought they'd go Madrid, lad. Somewhere abroad. Oh, he's got his laugh out now. Deflect. Jump on, jump on. Fucking Madrid and Papos. But I got your gist. Yeah. Took him to abroad. yeah places we never thought it got what I was thinking names that you with in China Tevez and but we're at let's go Madrid and when he say couldn't read and write like the lads would stitch him up and write directions down and just leaving speed away so they couldn't find it you couldn't read the front of the directions yeah very cruel but i think i think we speak about it in the episode but i don't know what it is bright and i always associate with being a family club not that kind of rough and ready rough and ready the the crazy gang but it seemed like they had their own little crazy gang at brighton back in the day no i think i remember guy butters yes i just remember him yeah charlie i knew it was a rough old it'll be a rough doghouse yeah but they've had a lot of air time haven't they these D-baggings D-baggings well come on let him explain yeah D-bagging D-bagging I can imagine you used to enjoy the D-bagging

44:59Pascal Chimbonda:well Bobby Zamora tells that and another clip that I saw the other week he says about it when he first came his first day was um we were doing a little box we used to do little boxes and then anyway that looks really short the ball apparently went out the box. It didn't go out the box, my opinion. But Alan Cook's opinion was it did go out the box. So I had to go in the middle. So I went, fuck that. Debag him. So I shouted it. And then all the players, stop what they're doing. No matter where you are, if you're injured, you've got to fucking peg it over them with one leg. You've got to get over them.

45:32Pascal Chimbonda:You've got to get involved. So we're swiping at him. And he had these big, long, dangly legs like that. Fucking everyone's swiping at him. And it kept swiping them. Someone's caught him. And as he's gone down, Well, Bobby said that, you know, we manhandled him. They're not my sort of words. We beat the shit up. He got absolutely pummeled for just giving one wrong decision. One wrong decision. And I know he had about two or three days off because we cracked or broke a rib. But that wasn't me. I had his feet, so that was someone else's.

46:03Mr Parkin:And could anybody see you at any time? Oh, yeah. And you had to join in. So it wasn't just an hierarchy thing where it was like you and maybe some of the other...

46:12Pascal Chimbonda:It would be the main art. Bigger characters. It would be the bigger characters. I mean, if Alan Virgo said it, we'd say, shut up. You know? Slut. Yeah. Kerry Mayo said it. He's probably facing the wrong way. There's no one there. Would players get it as well? Oh, yeah. I mean, if sometimes, if something went on, then, yeah. So, for instance, I'll say about Kerry Mayo. Kerry Mayo and Gary Hart, Dodge called them, Paul Dodge called them the Peace Haven Plonkers. Right? All the pounces, peace haven pounces. When they were out on a Saturday night, there was the peace haven pounces. Lock your daughters up.

46:50Pascal Chimbonda:Anyway, so they picked up. When you come down the stairs in the training ground, at the university, you come down the stairs and there's always, at what time of year, this big puddle of water. There's a lot of stuff about Kiri Maira being like, Gary Hart would be 100 miles an hour and aggressive. And then Kiri would be like, let's get him, let's get him, come on, let's get him. And they were hiding behind the bush. Nathan Jones, don't know if you've ever done him. Nathan Jones is really like a placid guy, placid winger, good coach, good manager now. But anyway, they decided to hide behind the bush until...

47:30Pascal Chimbonda:I don't know why they picked on him, but they decided to pick him up on a Friday, grab him. He's going like that, oh, get off, get off, like that. He was killing his fucking stand still.

47:41Mr Parkin:And they walk over to this puddle. And as they walk over to this puddle, they fuck him off into the puddle. And you hear him scream. So Bob Booker comes down the stairs, like a big fucking giraffe.

47:53Pascal Chimbonda:Comes down the stairs. What's up with you? And he wouldn't swear. Nathan Jones won't swear. He's really religious. Nathan Jones began. Fuck him out! Fuck him out! Fuck him out! And then he looked down. He's pissing with blood. So Bob just walks over and he goes, Oi, you three bronquers, get him over there, medical.

48:16Mr Parkin:Off he walks, he's seen these things, he's going, sorry about that. It was only meant to be a laugh, Jonesy. I didn't know there was glass in there.

48:27Mr Parkin:Staying on Charlie Hortway, one thing that is mentioned enough, and I think we talked about it at the start of the episode, full name Anthony Philip David Terry Frank Donald Stanley Jerry Gordon Reginald Stephen James Oatway named after the entire 1973 QPR first team squad sensational that isn't it and the best thing about it is Charlie's not even on there I didn't even notice that Charlie was suspended for that game I tell you when you you have got bad luck and you know when you know if you're not the brightest and you people joke don't they all how are you doing your maths test well i got my name right he can't even get his fucking name right can he do you get any questions right yeah well yeah name he can't even spell his name bless him you mentioned before about would you get sacked for hitting your boss with a golf club in a supermarket imagine doing that to your supervisor puddle breaking his ribbon that you can't be breaking different times that's a proper that's another one that hurts when you break your rib for a while every breath yeah yeah we'll go with Nicky Shuri next right on is he up there in the what was what number did we get to the fantastic 12 I think we're at now Martin O 'Neill managers yeah there was a lot of positive stuff about Martin wasn't there yeah I think the last couple the series we've had a bit of a weirdo do you know a little fact about martin o 'neill massive murder fan he during peter sutcliffe's trial martin o 'neill was at norwich at the time and would after training go to the trial and sit in trial loves a murder where was the trial that could be bollocks yeah where was the trial i'm assuming yorkshire it's a long old slap from Norwich to Yorkshire.

50:31Mr Parkin:Yeah, but when you like your murderers, John. But if you finish training at one to get from Norwich to Yorkshire, you'll probably get the last five minutes, aren't you? I don't know. That's the business endo, isn't it? Or he might take him days off. They don't like, they're day jobs, these weeks and weeks. I'm going to Google it, actually. I might have just made it up. Like, do you know if that's not true? Where the fuck have you pulled that from? Let me just have a look. Martin O. When you want your spring break to feel like

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51:47Mr Parkin:I think it just, I'll tell you what it were Finished training, went home and watched Murder, She Wrote with Jessica Fletcher. Yeah. One of his favourite programmes. Or he's got his wrong, serial killer's wrong. Or wrong manager. That is definitely incorrect. Martin O 'Neill, the former professional football manager, is well known for his intense interest in true crime, particularly the case of the Yorkshire Ripper, Peter Sutcliffe. In May 1981, while playing for Norwich City, O 'Neill queued at the Old Bailey to watch Sutcliffe's trial, A detail often cited amongst his bizarre high intelligence and sometimes macabre interests.

52:28Mr Parkin:So there's that in London? Yeah, the old Bailey's London. See, there is some factual... You did get some things right. You did all right there. No, I got it all right until you asked where the trial was. He didn't finish training and go. He just was seen in a queue. Well, it was a Wednesday, it says. Day off, innit? There we go. We're just filling in the gaps after training. He didn't take his World Cups off and put his shoe straight on, straight to Old Bailey. Can you see that with him, though? I can see him. Yeah. Do you think he'd be a good detective? Or would you see him on the other side?

53:05Mr Parkin:The murderer. No, I think he'd be both. He'd have too many days off. You know what I mean? Well, there's still hardly to see no killer, Martin. See you Thursday. See you Thursday, lads. We'll pick it back up Thursday. We found a hair this weekend, so I'll see you Thursday. If you find another suspect today, I'll give you till Tuesday.

53:28Mr Parkin:We'll make it a rest. Right, lads. Right, lads. Rest of the week. I know he's only got 24 hours. See you next Monday.

53:36Pascal Chimbonda:I didn't really see eye to eye with the manager, Mark and O 'Neill. I kind of knew early on I wasn't sure this was going to work out. But I went there after pre-season. I wasn't playing any pre-season games at Reading, so I wasn't really up to full fitness. And then I went. And then after the first week, we was in the early rounds of the Europa qualifying. We had an Icelandic team away from home, and that was my first game. So I went and played that. It's a little bit rusty physically. I'll never forget, I come in at half-time, and Martin's done his team talk, and then he just come sat down next to me, put his hand on my leg and gone, Nicky, I think we're going to have to find you some pace from somewhere.

54:25Pascal Chimbonda:And I was just like, what? You know, I was just like in shock. I was like, it's bizarre. Bizarre, yeah. And I just, after that, I just felt like I'm not sure about this. I remember ringing my dad after that game. I said, I feel like I might have made a mistake here. Not in terms of the club, but I just, yeah, me and the manager didn't really sort of see eye to eye at all.

54:54Mr Parkin:Were you led to believe that you were coming in as first choice left back?

54:58Pascal Chimbonda:Yeah, well, Wilfried Broomer got injured. It was at Villa at the time playing left back. That's why they signed me. So I knew he was going to be injured for a quite long period. So I thought, yeah, I was coming in as first-trice left-back. And I mean, I played, I think, 30-odd games first season. So I played quite a few games. But yeah, it just wasn't a great relationship, really.

55:21Mr Parkin:I'm trying to think, would I prefer him to be stood up in front of everybody and say that or sit next to us and put his hand on my leg? A bit more patching on him.

55:30Pascal Chimbonda:I'd rather he just didn't say it. Yeah. But no, I just thought then, I just thought, you obviously don't really know me as a player or what I sort of do and how I do, what I can bring. And plus I was nowhere near up to speed. I hadn't played any pre-season games. I was never the fastest anyway. That's what I was thinking in my head. You've scouted me and Simon, you didn't really know that I wasn't the quickest. I just thought it felt a strange thing to say, but then Martin is a, that kind of character is a bit quirky.

56:01Mr Parkin:And were you still feeling that after, like you said, let's say 20, 25 games? in did you still because you're playing you're playing

56:09Pascal Chimbonda:yeah I played quite a few games and I did I just yeah it just didn't feel right it just didn't fit it was yeah I mean Martin was one of them he had a core group of players who he had that he knew they were going to play week in week out and they were going to look after look after the change room for him and he looked after them which is fine that's fine but I just felt like the other players were just disregarded or sort of made to feel like they weren't really a part of it at times.

56:45Mr Parkin:Not as important.

56:46Pascal Chimbonda:Yeah, which, listen, every manager is going to have his favourite ones he depends on. I totally get that, but I still feel there should be a common respect for me. That's how I felt all the time. Martin might see it differently. But yeah, it was a strange time. I mean, one of the things that stands out for me was whenever we used to lose, we used to do like a meeting and Martin would come in and he'd like dig people out. I mean, throughout the season, I was like, I couldn't get through a meeting without getting dug out. I was like, oh God, wow. And I've never really had that in my career. And I was just...

57:22Pascal Chimbonda:So then I was out of the team in the second season and I hadn't played for three months. We lost to, I think it was Stoke at home and we come into one of them meetings so I'm thinking thank God I ain't finally I can get through one of these meetings without getting dug out and he's dug big Zach Knight sent her half out he said oh Zach you turned your back there you went to block the shot and you turned your back your back sorry and Nicky I'm like that did I play I ain't played in three months and he went and Nicky you did it CSK must go away do you remember it I'm like three and a half, four months ago.

58:04Pascal Chimbonda:I went, yeah, yeah, yeah. He went, yeah, we'll get it up. And he put it on. Put it on. I'm like, see, look, you went to block the shot, you turned your back. I went, no, I didn't turn my back. He goes, yes, you did, look, look. And I know he's fuming now, and I'm thinking I'm just going to go along with this because he's fuming. I was like, no, I didn't. And he's like, yes, you did, look, you can see it. He's going mental. And I'm thinking, why are you bothered about it? I haven't played for three months.

58:33Mr Parkin:That's petty, that.

58:34Pascal Chimbonda:It was things like that that sort of, yeah, I just think little things like that. I think he didn't really fancy me as a player, which is fine, and I didn't really enjoy the way he sort of managed the team, and that can happen, you know.

58:48Mr Parkin:Seems to me like once he's made his mind up, there's no, he's got it in for you kind of thing.

58:53Pascal Chimbonda:Yeah, it felt a bit like that. I mean, you might say differently, but it felt a bit like that, and it felt like not much you could do to sort of turn that around. And it was just little things. It was all about winning. His thing was all about winning. If you won and training started at 10.30, if John Carew could stroll out at 10.45, no one would say anything about an eyelid. As soon as you lose, it was completely different. And I didn't really like that. I was like, no, we'll do things properly. But listen, it worked for him. I'm not saying that's right or wrong. but I didn't really enjoy that environment.

59:29Pascal Chimbonda:I kind of, no, training's 10.30, we're out there at 10.15 at least. That was just the way I saw football.

59:40Mr Parkin:Like Bonham had on a piece of string, didn't they?

59:42Pascal Chimbonda:Gabby and Asher Young, yeah. I mean, yeah, the training was literally, there wasn't much tactical side to the training. it was more like seven asides and games and ash and gab just i mean not mexico they get in training and we and that's what that's the way but i get it from martin's point of view he he he had a group of players that he trusted and he allowed them to do certain things but as long as they turned up on a saturday he didn't care and that was that was fine but i just didn't and because maybe because I was one of the ones that was in the Joey's like it probably I didn't enjoy it because of that if I was one of the ones who could get away and murder and be I might have been oh alright I'll go along with this

1:00:30Mr Parkin:thing is Martin O 'Neill's one of them and we've heard many a time that he had his favourites yeah I mean we had Stuart Downing on Peter Sutcliffe Fred West the Texas Chainsaw Massacre man which is good all well and good until you're not his favorite yeah if you're in the the group that he can half thingy i bet you it was a nightmare and it sounds like you signed him and didn't really fancy him but he speaks about a while doesn't he it's a bad one and all pace in it because you can't really work on it like it's that much quicker i don't think i don't think you can sign somebody i mean how old was he 30 plus yeah you can sign somebody who's played that many games and then dig them out for a at rebuke that he's never had or never will have.

1:01:18Mr Parkin:It's the delivery for me, the hand on the knee. I know. Sorry, son, you're not fast enough. I know. That's patronising, I'd say. And then he speaks about it in the thingy, about him bringing a game up from pre-season. Yeah. That's when you know it's... Get me out of here. Get me the hell out. You know you just need to go. See, if I told him that he'd killed four people, I'd recommend playing. new contract yeah tell us all about it we've got to see the Charlie Austin one when he just goes off his head mm-hmm were you playing then when it been going around the dressing room and stuff the video but it was just on I just remember being on Sky Sports News nearly all day and then you go on YouTube and someone's done a remix of it a remix have you ever did you have to do many post-match interviews yeah loads did you ever anything ever happen like lose your head or anything from my point of view you just want to walk in don't say anything too silly controversial yeah and get out of there whether you win or lost personally I just said to be honest so then you got beat today what do you think well we weren't good enough were we we were crap we defended bad I've missed a couple of chances who decides who's up managers say you're on media duties I remember the worst nod I've ever had was when we got relegated at the Doncaster at Leicester away and we've come in and it was flat as a fart in the changing room and then Dick Hoffs pulled us and went you go and do the press all the best it was terrible and then I signed for Blackburn about a week after.

1:03:09Mr Parkin:Tell you what, usually the people scored, don't they, get a lot of, they want you. So, obviously I did loads. They want you. No, but you know what I mean? And then obviously, you're just walking out saying, they want parking again. Scored another couple. I did loads.

1:03:36Mr Parkin:Well, shall we watch it? Yeah. I just want to speak about when you did the Match of the Day interview. Having lost your head. Did you know before your head had gone? I'm sorry to do this to you, but can I play this? Of course you can. I like this version.

1:04:09Pascal Chimbonda:It's pitch perfect, isn't it? First time I heard that was like the next day. The next day I was in the pub. I was like, I've got a couple of 12 or something. And I got a message through, actually from the guy who'd done it. He sent it to me on Twitter and said, I hope you don't mind, mate, but this is what I'd done. I looked at it and I was like, oh my God, this is the best thing ever. This is the best thing ever. So we played Watford, didn't we? where it all come from so I was on the bench and as I was getting a chance to come on like five seats away from me one of our own fans said something I couldn't gasp what he was saying right but he was definitely giving me a bit for like going on because you put me in a foul mood anyway I've scored ran off as I've ran I've like ran towards Jack Stevens who's like on the bench with me I was like which one is it which one is it I was going to obviously give it to him give it to him turn around I'm just fucking...

1:05:02Pascal Chimbonda:Oh, I'm sorry, mate. My head is obviously gone. I'm saying to Simon Hooper, I'm saying, how can I be offside? It's not possible. I've literally kicked it into myself. It's just gone in. They flagged up because my she, that they said, was in... So my head is gone. Anyway, getting after the game, they said, oh, can we have an interview with you? And I'm like, yeah, okay, fine. But I'm talking like we are now. Now, you know what it's like in their media? It's only small, ain't it? They're talking about it. And all of a sudden, from nowhere, I start picking up serious pace. I start picking up serious pace.

1:05:38Pascal Chimbonda:No, it's a joke. But then the curtain light comes back and people's heads are just coming around the corner. I just lost it. It just literally was red mist. I just had full red mist of the whole scenario, I think, because the fan pissed me off. I hadn't scored in a couple of games and I was dying for a goal. And then that got disallowed. And I think we were struggling down the bottom end as well. And I just lost the head, mate. I just lost the head. Didn't think nothing of it. I come out, walked to the change room, got show and change, went to leave. Mark Hughes went, Chas, what have you said?

1:06:07Pascal Chimbonda:And I said, why? He said, oh, they just said about your interview. I said, well, I just said about the referee. He said, oh, don't worry about it. I've just backed you the whole way anyway. So he had my back the whole time. But it wasn't until, I say, later on that evening, fucking 20 minutes from being in the car to being out the road, that all my phone is obviously going mad for it. But it was just literally spur of the moment.

1:06:27Mr Parkin:I love it.

1:06:28Pascal Chimbonda:And was it a bad decision? I haven't seen the shit decision, mate.

1:06:31Mr Parkin:50-50. Get him fucking started, man. Come across me. He'll let the fuse get in. I'm like, I can get off it.

1:06:40Pascal Chimbonda:He come back, went in. Yeah, terrible, terrible decision. Terrible decision.

1:06:44Mr Parkin:People love it, though. It's refreshing, isn't it? Yeah.

1:06:48Pascal Chimbonda:I think that was the biggest thing. That's what I got the most out of people. It was refreshing. Because it went through a time when everyone was just so robotic. Even to the point of now just saying what it was. and I just lost the ass.

1:07:01Mr Parkin:Did you get stung? Fine? Nothing.

1:07:03Pascal Chimbonda:Nothing. So I actually didn't say anything. I didn't say at Simon Hooper, I didn't say he's having one or anything like that. I just basically said, we're playing the best league in the world. They need help. The officials being let down. They're going about far this and far that. So I never actually said he was... And was that? Yeah, I was going to say,

1:07:22Mr Parkin:was that completely unintentional? Yeah, that was the whole thing. I can't, it's an absolute cunt.

1:07:27Pascal Chimbonda:Yeah, that was the whole thing. that's why I say the whole rant was unintentional and the reason why I got away from not being punished was because I didn't say Simon Hooper is shit

1:07:39Mr Parkin:Right gents that's us for this episode but Pascal on the horizon my favourite episode of the series so far but there's plenty more to come World Cup final World Cup final? I'm not going to World Cup final like two years to my wedding. Pascal. Oh, sorry. I thought you were meaning we were going. He shared a dressing room with Zinedine Zidane. He was there at that World Cup final when Zidane stuck the nut on Zabaleta. Oh, see you next week. That is a bad one as well. Who was it? Yeah, Zabaleta the Argentinian, yeah? Yeah. Yeah. Did they play Argentina in that final? I don't think they did, did they?

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