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Episode Details
- Title: Biden Exits The Race, New Nominee Process, GOP Reaction
- Date: July 22, 2023
- Hosts: Michelle Martin, A. Martinez
- Guest Correspondents: Tamara Keith, Mara Liason, Franco Ordonez
Overview This episode focuses on President Biden's decision to withdraw from the Presidential race, endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris as the new Democratic nominee. The episode explores the implications of this decision for the Democratic Party and the Republican Party's reaction.
Key Highlights
Biden's Withdrawal
- Announcement: President Biden officially drops out of the presidential race.
- Endorsement: He endorses Vice President Kamala Harris as the new Democratic nominee.
- Democratic Strategy: Discussion on how the party will navigate the nomination process and unify behind Harris.
Kamala Harris as the Nominee
- Harris' Response: Harris expresses gratitude for Biden's endorsement and a commitment to unite the Democratic Party and challenge Donald Trump.
- Fundraising Success: Harris' campaign reportedly raised over $46 million from grassroots donors shortly after Biden's endorsement.
- Support and Skepticism: While there is significant support for Harris among many Democrats, some leaders, including Nancy Pelosi, have not explicitly endorsed her, indicating a desire for a fair nomination process.
Republican Reaction
- Trump's Campaign Strategy: Immediately after Biden's announcement, Trump pivots to attack Harris, labeling her as “enabler in chief” and associating her with Biden's challenges, particularly regarding immigration and inflation.
- Public Perception: Republicans attempt to frame Harris as a problematic candidate, despite her being a fresh face compared to Biden.
Upcoming Democratic National Convention
- Delegate Voting Process: Discussion on the condensed primary campaign leading to the Democratic National Convention, where approximately 4,700 delegates will vote. If a consensus candidate does not emerge, the process may entail multiple rounds of voting.
- Potential Challenges for Harris: Questions remain about whether other candidates may emerge to challenge her nomination and how she will establish her identity as a leader separate from Biden.
Public Sentiment
- Democratic Party Mood: Many Democrats feel a mix of relief and anxiety about the future, with fundraising numbers indicating excitement and urgency to support Harris's campaign.
- Voter Awareness: Discussion on how familiar voters are with Kamala Harris, and the challenges she faces in building her political identity outside of being the first female vice president.
Key Takeaways
- Political Landscape Shift: Biden's exit represents a significant shift in the Democratic landscape, with Harris now positioned as the face of the party heading into the election.
- Republican Strategy: The GOP's immediate attacks on Harris indicate they view her as a serious contender, reflecting on both her strengths and vulnerabilities.
- Unity vs. Contestation: The upcoming weeks will test the Democratic Party's ability to unite behind Harris while managing potential challengers and public perception.
Conclusion The episode provides a concise overview of a pivotal moment in American politics, setting the stage for Harris's campaign and the responses it may invoke from Republicans. As the Democratic National Convention approaches, the discourse surrounding Harris will evolve, influencing both party unity and voter sentiment.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:01President Biden has quit the presidential race and endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris as the Democratic nominee. So now, how will the Democrats decide on a brand new presidential ticket? I'm Michelle Martin. That's A. Martinez, and this is Up First from NPR News.
0:19With weeks to go before the convention in Chicago, Harris is now at the top of the ticket and winning over some voters. I feel energized about Harris and the chance that we can only honestly go up from here. How does she perform against Trump? And the Trump campaign has wasted no time switching gears to attack the VP's record. Well, I don't know, Kamala. I did serve in the United States Marine Corps and build a business. What the hell have you done other than collect the check? Where does she pose the biggest threat? Stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day.
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2:28Biden endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris as his choice to take over the top of the Democratic ticket, but it's unclear how the party will now proceed. We're joined now by NPR senior White House correspondent Tamara Keith, who is in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, where Biden has been recovering from COVID. Also with us is NPR national political correspondent Tamara Liason. All right, Tam, let's start off with you. You're leading off here. President Biden endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris to be the nominee. So what's Harris' plan to do with that endorsement? Well, in a statement, Harris said that she is honored that President Biden endorsed her and that it is her intention to earn and win the nomination.
3:06She added that she will do everything in her power to unite the Democratic Party and unite the nation to defeat Donald Trump. And according to a person familiar with her day, Harris worked the phones for more than 10 hours on Sunday, calling Democratic Party leaders and talking about her plans. At this point, we don't know yet if anyone will be able to get enough support from Democratic convention delegates to make this a real race. So far, we have seen a ton of endorsements pour in for Harris, including members of Congress, entire state delegations, and some of the big name Democrats who had previously been mentioned as possible candidates.
3:42But in their statements praising Biden's decision, fellow Californian Nancy Pelosi and former President Barack Obama notably didn't explicitly endorse Harris. In a meeting with campaign staff yesterday after Biden's announcement, Jen O'Malley Dillon, who's led Biden's reelection effort, told staff that they still have a job and they are quickly pivoting to be full steam ahead behind Vice President Biden. The branding and website have already changed. So much of their campaign was focused on beating Trump, trying to make it a referendum on him, that O'Malley Dillon said they don't need to reinvent the wheel in litigating the case to the American public.
4:20Just one more note. Last night, the Democratic fundraising platform ActBlue announced that the Harris presidential campaign had raised more than$46 million from grassroots donors in the hours since Biden endorsed her. That is a money bomb. Marlison, then what is the sense among Democrats about Harris's chances? Well, I think that they are cautiously optimistic, but we just don't have a lot of evidence here. Our latest NPR poll, NPR Marist PBS poll showed that she runs nationally against Trump about the same as Biden does. What we don't have are any public battleground polls to see how she does.
4:59But Democrats are cautiously optimistic. Even Democratic leaders like Nancy Pelosi, who haven't yet endorsed her and are talking about some kind of an open process, that doesn't mean that they're against Kamala. They just want something that doesn't look like a coronation. Mara, on Friday, the Biden campaign was insistent that they were staying in it until the race was over. So what changed? What's the timeline? Well, this was a real process. You know, this is a hard thing. Don't forget, this is a politician, Joe Biden, whose political identity, his origin story is of someone who's always counted out and always proves his critics wrong.
5:35He started out very defiant. He was going to stay in the race. He sounded like he was in denial about what the polls showed. But in the end, he was not deluded. And his aides came to him, showed him internal polling that his standing in battleground states was collapsing. And he wanted to get out before the trickle of Democrats calling for him to get out turned into a tidal wave. So, Tamara, how much do voters know about Kamala Harris? Like all vice presidents, she has been at many points pretty invisible and struggled to carve out her own political identity. I was recently in North Carolina talking to voters who were like, where is she and what is she doing?
6:16But the reality is that she's been on dozens of foreign trips and became a leading voice for the administration on abortion. But a lot of people don't really feel like they know her aside from being a first. And what they do know may be through the lens of Republican attacks on her handling of immigration and even her laughter. The hits are already coming, some about policy and some that lean on well-worn tropes about black women. There are Democratic outside groups, including Emily's List. I spoke with him yesterday, planning to spend millions of dollars to make sure voters feel comfortable with Harris as president.
6:54OK, but here we go, because Democrats have less than a month before their convention in Chicago. So, Tamara, can you walk us through exactly what is going to happen next? I mean, what's the process like? What will it involve? We are headed for a highly condensed primary campaign where the only voters are the 4 ,700 or so delegates to the Democratic National Convention in Chicago. This is a group of elected Democrats, party activists and volunteers who will decide. And if they haven't coalesced behind a candidate by the start of the convention, it could go through multiple rounds of voting until a candidate gets the majority.
7:28And in the meantime, one expert on the process told me it will be like reality TV that you've never seen before, at least not since 1968, that convention. Interestingly, there is nothing in the U.S. Constitution about how nominees are chosen. This is a party process, which feels weird given that millions of people voted in the primary, but the rules are quite clear, even if Republicans and former President Trump are trying to make it sound nefarious. I do like reality TV. I am a big fan of that. Mara, what about your thoughts on what this process will involve next? Well, the big question is if anyone stands up to run against her.
8:02There's going to be tremendous pressure on Democrats who want to preserve their, quote, viability in the system, as Bill Clinton said once, to not do that. The outpouring of endorsements show you that Democrats at least, and the lack of a serious challenger, shows you that at least Democrats seem to be completing step one of this process, which is party unity. And that's really important. But the other big question is, can Kamala Harris rise to the occasion? One top Democrat said to me that no politician in modern times has ever been asked to rise to the occasion like this. She was not a great candidate in 2020.
8:38She dropped out before any votes were cast. But I think Democrats do feel this is their last best hope to defeat Trump or barring that to at least flip the house and stop a complete Trump takeover of the government. One more thing for both of you really quick. I mean, it's a lot of upheaval in the Democratic Party. Do you have any sense of how Democrats are feeling in this moment? Mara, let's start with you on that. Yeah, I think they're feeling a big sense of relief and a lot of trepidation about what's going to happen next. Tam, what about you? Just look at those fundraising numbers. They are off the charts, which means there was a lot of pent-up demand from Democrats to find something to get excited about, and they're going to get excited about this.
9:17I heard from Democratic campaign volunteers who are ready to get to work for their new future nominee. That's NPR's Tamara Keith and NPR's Mara Lison. Thanks to you both. Thank you. You're welcome.
9:37Now for a look at how President Trump and the Republicans are going at Vice President Harris. Yes, Harris still has to secure the Democratic Party's nomination, but Republicans are already running as if she has. They are trying to tie her to Biden's biggest challenges, including immigration and inflation. White House correspondent Franco Ordonez, who is covering the Trump campaign, is here to talk about strategy. So, Franco, what was the response from Trump's camp about Biden stepping down? I mean, hey, they say it doesn't matter. I mean, soon after Biden dropped out, Trump was already on his truth social saying he doesn't care who he faces on the left, saying they're just more of the same.
10:14But the campaign did quickly pivot to Harris, calling her the, quote, enabler in chief. I mean, they're basically accusing her of concealing Biden's physical and mental fitness issues. They're looking to paint Harris and Biden as one, you know, saying, quote, there is no difference between the two and that she didn't do anything when she could about inflation and when the border was in chaos. Yeah, the nicknames came quickly, as they always seem to do. You were in Grand Rapids, where Trump held his first rally with his new running mate, J.D. Vance. That was before the announcement. but they already were attacking Kamala Harris.
10:50Yeah, they were kind of workshopping attacks. Vance particularly wasted no time going after Harris, even alluding to the idea that she hasn't worked really hard while he has. Well, I don't know, Kamala. I did serve in the United States Marine Corps and build a business. What the hell have you done other than collect the check? You know, and he accused Harris of being Biden's, quote, border czar during record-breaking migration. So tell us about that, because, I mean, immigration has been a part of Harris's portfolio in the White House. Yeah, I mean, while she was tasked with leading efforts to address the root causes of migration, that's basically working with Latin American governments, she actually was never specifically appointed to fixing the border like a czar would, I guess.
11:32But that hasn't stopped Republicans from attacking her on the border. I mean, it's really become a Republican talking point. The Republican National Committee actually also put out a video Sunday attacking her, And it started like this. Warning, the following may upset liberals who don't want voters to know the truth about Kamala Harris. You know, they use selective cuts and they just went on the attack on Harris over immigration. And they charge that she neglected the border. Again, not necessarily her area. All right. So let's just say it is Kamala Harris going up against Donald Trump. Where would she pose the biggest threat to the Trump campaign?
12:07Yeah, I mean, publicly, the campaign says that they're not worried, that it's the same issues and the same policies. But it's really not that simple. I mean, they're not the same person. They have different strengths and weaknesses. The Trump campaign has spent a lot of resources targeting Biden's mental acuity. And that attack line just isn't going to work against Harris in the same way, who is nearly two decades younger than Trump. You know, and as Tamara just said, Harris is also a leading voice for Democrats on abortion, a huge issue for voters and a big vulnerability for Trump. And she polls better with young voters and voters of color.
12:46Plus, Harris might perform better with suburban women and all these groups. All these groups are going to be very critical in this year's coming election. All right. That's NPR's Franco Ordonez. Thank you very much for bringing us this. Thanks, A.
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