Infertility doctor secretly fathered dozens of children: how strangers became family

19 Jul 2026 · 32 min · 13 chapters

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In short

DNA tests and consumer genealogy reveal that dozens of people were secretly conceived via donor sperm from Dr. Charles Charney, a Philadelphia male infertility specialist. The episode follows how the “Charney sibs” (biological half-siblings) uncovered the deception, confirmed Charney’s identity, and built real relationships through reunions, despite ethical and emotional fallout.

Guest backgrounds

Bryna (65, Philadelphia suburbs; mother adopted; DNA test in 2014); David Staskin (urological surgeon, Boston); Dina Harris (75; learned after mother’s funeral); Gil Brodsky (doctor; amateur songwriter); Diane (half-sibling); Joe Lubeck (Philadelphia neurologist); Ken Lasky (retired nuclear/aerospace engineer); John Lowell (actuary); Stu Friedman (physician).

Key claims

Charney fathered 64+ known half-siblings (possibly 400+); he died before confirmation; some parents may have known; some siblings felt gratitude, others call it unethical/possibly eugenics-linked.

Notable examples

Fort Lauderdale reunion t-shirts with Charney’s photo; confirmation via Charney grandson’s 23andMe; Dina’s mother signed paintings as “Charney Harris”; one sibling confronted Bryna and warned about suicide risk; “We are miracles” reframed bonding.

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The Unveiling of a Secret Family

0:45 to 1:56

Exploration of how a group of strangers became a family through DNA tests.

“Neither did anyone else at the table, including his half-sister, Dina Harris.”

Bryna's Discovery of Her Biological Roots

3:13 to 6:20

Bryna's journey of uncovering her secret family through DNA tests.

“I'm handing it off now to NPR roving national correspondent Frank Langfitt.”

The Search for Their Biological Father

6:20 to 9:10

The siblings' quest to identify their biological father, Dr. Charney.

“She became determined to find out who was.”

Theories Behind Charney's Legacy

9:10 to 14:01

Discussion of the siblings' theories about Dr. Charney's motivations.

“Charles Tarney was born in 1902 in an area of the Russian Empire, which is now part of western Ukraine.”

History of Infertility Practices

14:01 to 14:48

Learn about the historical practices of infertility treatments and their implications.

“We'll get the sample, we'll shake it up, we'll insert it back into you and let's see what happens.”

Theories on Charney's Actions

14:48 to 16:40

Explore the three theories surrounding Dr. Charney's motivations for fathering many children.

“No one knows for sure, but at the mini-reunion in Fort Lauderdale, Diane laid out the three theories the siblings have come up with.”

Ethical Concerns and Reactions

16:40 to 18:48

Discuss the ethical implications of Charney's actions and siblings' reactions.

“Some of the siblings who are physicians are critical of Charney.”

Siblings' Reunion and Reflections

18:48 to 21:00

Hear about the first reunion of Charney's siblings and their bonding experiences.

“Despite the questions around ethics and Charney's motivations, some siblings' main response is gratitude.”

Siblings' Reunion and Reflections

22:01 to 22:26

Hear about the first reunion of Charney's siblings and their bonding experiences.

“People talk about mental health more openly now, but asking for help can still feel hard.”

Shared Experiences and Traits

22:30 to 24:59

Discover how siblings connect through shared traits and similar careers.

“Frank Langford picks up the tale of the Charney Sibs, a group of biological half-siblings.”
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Navigating New Sibling Relationships

24:59 to 26:54

Explore the complexities of forming new relationships with half-siblings.

“We've got X number of doctors and authors and heads of academic departments and things like that.”

Challenges of Family Revelations

26:54 to 28:01

Understand the emotional challenges siblings face when learning about their origins.

“But some conversations with siblings backfired.”

Exploring Family Dynamics Among Half-Siblings

28:01 to 33:00

Learn how the discovery of half-siblings impacts identity and family relationships.

“At the time I'm talking to someone, I don't know who they are, what's happening in their life, whether or not this is a good moment to talk or not.”
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0:00I'm Aisha Roscoe and this is a Sunday story from Up First.

0:08Earlier this year, eight siblings gathered at a beachfront resort in Fort Lauderdale for a reunion. Like some families, this one makes t-shirts. Grina, a retired college professor, hands them out. Someone take a picture of Joe with his t-shirt. The t-shirt features a photo of a sibling's father. He's a bald man with glasses. Rather pleasant picture. Thin lips, of course. This is Gil Brodsky, another sibling. He reads the speech bubble next to his father's mouth. Says Gilbert was my favorite. The t-shirt is a joke in more ways than one. Gil never knew his biological father. Neither did anyone else at the table, including his half-sister, Dina Harris.

0:54I don't know him. I mean, I think he was a bit eccentric, so who knows? I mean, it must have been sitting somewhere in his mind that what he did was odd. Until a decade ago, none of these siblings knew any of the others existed. And yet, here they are, at a family reunion. But not like one you've ever heard of. This is the story of a secret family. A group of strangers who uncovered a decades-old deception, then out of that, built genuine family connections, turning what could have been a catastrophe into something affirming and meaningful. NPR's Frank Langfitt spent the last year interviewing 18 members of this unique family.

1:42This is the first time they're telling their story. This week on The Sunday Story, one family strange creation tale and what it says about the bonds that unite us. And just a quick warning, this episode does mention thoughts of suicide.

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3:12We're back with the Sunday story with our episode about a family and its secret origins. I'm handing it off now to NPR roving national correspondent Frank Langfitt. Bryna is 65. She grew up in the Philadelphia suburbs. Bryna, like some other people you'll hear from in this story, doesn't want NPR to use her full name to protect the privacy of family members. For Bryna, the discovery of her secret family began with a question. Who am I related to? Bryna's mother was adopted. In 2014, when Bryna took a DNA test, she expected to find relatives she'd never heard of on her mother's side. And of course, to see some familiar names of relatives on her father's side.

3:59But when the results came back, she didn't recognize a single name. I don't recognize anyone, like no one. Where were her cousins on her father's side? Why weren't they there? There was more. I think there were like four or five people who were listed as close relatives. Close enough to be half-siblings, but neither of her parents had had other children. Rhina wondered who these people were and thought, could this be a scam in the making? I kept thinking, this is really sophisticated. And how much money do they actually think they're going to get from me? You know, this is crazy. Despite her initial distrust, Bryna connected with some of these supposed half-siblings.

4:40They were as baffled as she was. Bryna came to realize this wasn't a trick. A number of the half-siblings told Bryna they were donor-conceived. Could the same be true for her? Bryna and a half-sibling named Kathy decided to share their raw DNA with an independent research geneticist to figure out how they were connected. It was 3 o 'clock in the morning when I received a text message from her. I hope I'm not waking you. There is no other possibility except that you and Kathy have the same father. I don't know who the father is, but I am 100 % sure. Bryna was stunned. I went into a panic and I felt like I was stinking.

5:27And then the question was, where am I in the universe? and I had a desperate need to find out. As far as Bryna knew, she had two biological parents, her mother who had passed away, and her father. So Bryna called her dad, who was then in his 80s. The question I asked is, did you and mom have any help with fertility treatment back when I was conceived? And my father's very good at, he was a master. If he didn't want to deal with something, he would deny it. And he basically said, you know, oh, no, no, I don't know. Maybe your mother did something that I don't know about. And I just thought, OK, there it is.

6:12Brynon now knew the man who had raised her, whom she'd called dad for five decades, he wasn't her biological father. She became determined to find out who was. And along this journey, she would get a lot of help. As the months and years passed, more half-siblings appeared through DNA websites. such as 23andMe and Ancestry.com. David Staskin is a urological surgeon in Boston. He, too, took a DNA test and remembers reading his results. I get up and I look at the thing. Half-brother, half-sister, half-brother, half-sister, half-brother. Eventually, they discovered 64 half-siblings, all with the same biological father.

6:55The actual number is probably much higher. Only a small percentage of Americans have taken a consumer DNA test. One of the siblings, John Lowell, is an actuary. He estimates the total number of siblings could be 400 or more. Bryna created a private Facebook page for the growing group. Figuring out who their father was was tough. But there were clues. All the half-siblings had been born in and around Philadelphia between 1945 and 1971. Most grew up in Jewish families. A genetic cousin got in touch with the half-siblings. More than a year of sleuthing and blind alleys followed. They learned the donor was a doctor.

7:36The cousin had a realization. Diane, another half-sibling, explains. He had an uncle who was a world-renowned male infertility specialist. And he just had a feeling that this could be the missing link. The specialist's name was Dr. Charles Charney. Charney was an Ivy League-educated, pioneering medical researcher. He'd served as the senior attending urological surgeon at what was then Albert Einstein Medical Center in Philadelphia. Half-siblings needed to confirm it was Charney. The problem? He'd been dead for ages. But he had a living daughter. This is Diane again. So they call the daughter. They say, hi, we think your father...

8:21And she basically says, I don't want to have anything to do with you guys. This is ridiculous. I reached out to Charney's daughter several times. She never responded. After she turned them down, the half-siblings brainstormed. How could they confirm it was Charney without his daughter's cooperation? Time passed. They're so overthinking this. So I finally said, look, does this woman have any kids? Yeah. Do you know their names? Yeah. I said, well, give us the names and let's all go on LinkedIn and see if we know anybody connected to these guys. Diane found she had a friend who'd gone to law school with one of Charney's two grandsons.

8:57The law school grandson did not take a DNA test, but his brother did. He did 23andMe, and he was connected to us. And that's kind of how it all got confirmed. I think there was some just plain old relief. I mean, this was a long process. And it was just the beginning. It was a mystery story. Okay, so we have a name now. Who was this person? Charles Tarney was born in 1902 in an area of the Russian Empire, which is now part of western Ukraine. His family fled the pogroms that targeted Jews and settled in Philadelphia. Charney graduated from the University of Pennsylvania Medical School in 1926.

9:42Calvin Coolidge was president. Charney fathered his secret children between the end of World War II and the first Nixon administration, a span of more than a quarter century. The Charney sibs, as they began to refer to themselves, figured out that OBGYNs inseminated their mothers. The next question, how much, if anything, did their parents know about Charney's role? Many of the siblings adored the dads who had raised them and didn't want to cause them pain. Brian had briefly asked her father about her conception and got nowhere. I really struggled very early on with the question of, do I tell him about this discovery?

10:20I kept going back and forth, changing my mind about it. And I decided, you know what, I'm not going to say anything. This is his life story. He chose to tell his life story in a way that worked for him. My father was in his later years. I didn't want to take that away from him. There was a strange clue that at least one mother knew the semen was Charney's. Dina's mom was a painter. Pretty much painted all the time. And she was good. It was at a time when women had trouble getting attention in art circles. So Dina's mom began signing her paintings with what seemed a masculine name. Charney Harris, which was kind of weird and we didn't understand what that was about.

11:04So when my brothers found out the name of our biologic father, it was like, what? So if you ask me, did my mom know? Yes, of course she knew. Come on. And also my brothers look like him. When David, the Boston Urological Surgeon, saw all the half-siblings in his DNA results, he picked up the phone. I called my mother. Now, she's at that time 90, living independently in Florida. And I said to her mom, I said, dad didn't have any other children, whether he was married or not. And you could not have possibly had 20. So what's going on? And my mother's response was interesting because she answered right away.

11:59Daddy and I went to a doctor in Philadelphia, and they processed something in daddy's sperm, and then we had you. Now, she didn't say, you must be the doctor's kid, right? I always said, but mom, the father is the father of 20-some, 30-some people at the time, 60 now. And the interesting thing that she said was, no, we never thought about it. We were just so happy to have you. David's mother declined to speak with me. Some sibs are convinced that their parents had no idea they were conceived through artificial insemination. For instance, one sibling said when she was growing up, her dad expressed a concern, that he'd been afraid that he might have passed on diabetes and other genetic traits to his daughters.

12:56He apparently had no idea he wasn't their biological father. In conversations with parents and relatives, some siblings formed theories about the mechanics behind their conception. Diane said the process probably went something like this. There was a couple. She was going to a gynecologist. They were having a really hard time getting pregnant. The gynecologist sent them into Philadelphia to a specialist. and, you know, they would do what you would do today, take sperm samples, check things out. American medicine was very different back then. There were no sperm banks. Patients respected and trusted physicians.

13:38And they didn't have much medical literacy. In those days, there were a lot of men who had fertility issues. It was a source of shame at the time. What they were told was, we are going to take your sperm and we're going to give it a boost. With the sperm of someone else, I think a doctor. We'll get the sample, we'll shake it up, we'll insert it back into you and let's see what happens. And before this entire procedure, you should have sex before and after. This is a real thing that used to happen. And then these women would get pregnant. And I think because of the way it was a boost rather than a replacement, because of the fact that, you know, they had sex before and after, I think these people got pregnant and said, you never know.

14:30Maybe it finally worked because we just needed a little boost.

14:41The Charney-Sibbs still have questions. Why did Dr. Charney father so many children? And over such a long time, a little more than a quarter century? No one knows for sure, but at the mini-reunion in Fort Lauderdale, Diane laid out the three theories the siblings have come up with. Theory number one was he was just a research geek. He wanted to try doing this and see what happened and what takes and what doesn't take and, you know, just to try to further the whole field of infertility. Theory number two was he was super compassionate, that he just saw all of these couples, like my parents, who were incredibly desperate to have children and who couldn't, and decided that he could help solve the problem because he understood a lot about how fertilization worked.

15:34But theory number three was that he thought he had really phenomenal genes and wanted to spread his sperm throughout the world. So it was more of an ego thing than anything else. Joe Lubeck, another Charney sib, is a Philadelphia neurologist. In May, he sent some of his fellow siblings a law review article. It noted that in the early decades of the last century, many practitioners of artificial insemination were explicit in their support of eugenics. A Minnesota doctor suggested in 1938 that, quote, we should use this procedure to practice good eugenics and encourage the procedure only in those who are apt to improve society, end quote.

16:22Eugenics encourages reproduction by people based on wealth, race, and physical traits. The article also said that would-be parents were kept ignorant of the identity of the donor. and that the doctors tried to create the illusion of paternity by the husband to spare the family shame and psychological pain. Some of the siblings who are physicians are critical of Charney. Here's David, the urological surgeon. If you said to me, was this ethical, I'd say no. I'd say by today's standards, it's not ethical. But I think by any standards, it's not ethical. Because it wasn't a donor, it was the doctor himself.

16:59Sip Stu Friedman is certain his parents had no idea Charney was the donor. That's because they specifically asked for a man who was not Jewish. I grew up Jewish, both parents Jewish. I had an older brother that was six years older than me that had a disease called familial dysautonomia. It's a disease carried almost exclusively by Eastern European Jews. After my brother was diagnosed, my parents realized that they were both carriers and that if they had another child, there was a 25 % chance that this child would have the same disease and probably not live to their 20th birthday. His parents wanted to make sure their next child, Stu, didn't get it.

17:45The major reason they needed a sperm donor was to avoid Jewish genes. Instead, they got the genes of Charney, an Eastern European Jew. They went through this thing with my brother, and they went through a lot of energy to make sure it didn't happen again. So yeah, they would be very, very, very angry. So I'm kind of glad they went to their graves without knowing, given the fact that everything worked out okay. Stu did not get familial dysautonomia. There's another thing that bothers some of the sibs. Charney continued to father children until he was 69. Most sperm banks won't take sperm from men 40 and older.

18:25That's because as men age, genetic mutations in their sperm increase, which can lead to rare diseases in offspring. Gil Brodsky is an amateur songwriter. Serial inseminator. He's blunt about his feelings toward Charney. Miracle impersonator. Egotistic procreator. Medical fraud perpetrator. Despite the questions around ethics and Charney's motivations, some siblings' main response is gratitude. I thank him for his genetic material. This is Ken Lasky, a retired nuclear and aerospace engineer. I think that he saw himself as a scientist, and, you know, I was one of the experiments. I mean, if he wasn't doing that, the experiments, you know, I wouldn't be here.

19:17Ken also says it was easier to accept the revelations about Charney because by the time he found out, he'd already lived most of his life and had a firm identity. Well, I'm glad that I found out when I was, you know, 65 rather than when I was 15. I don't know if I was mature enough that I could have handled it. There have been revelations about other doctors using their own semen to artificially inseminate women without their knowledge. The most notorious case in the U.S. involved a specialist in Indianapolis. He secretly fathered dozens of children between the 1970s and 1980s, pleaded guilty to two felonies.

19:54In a similar case in Colorado, families sued the doctor and won a nearly$9 million verdict. Those cases were marked by anger and recriminations. The story of the Charney Sibbes is different. After they figured out who their father was, they decided to go beyond emails and phone calls and meet in person. They organized their first reunion in 2017. Here's Bryna. We came together in Philadelphia. We decided, well, it's the one place that we all, we know how to get there, you know? When we arrived on Friday, you could tell people were nervous. All the women had their hair done, fresh manicures. I'll tell you, Frank, I went shopping for what I was going to wear so many times.

20:40I would buy an outfit, bring it home. It's not good enough. I'd go out again. Fourteen sibs and a cousin showed. Each told their own story. Everyone had five minutes, and I literally made a list of, here are the bullet points, this is what I want to cover, this is what I want to tell people about. Then, Bryna says, came a pivotal moment. One of our brothers said something that I really think changed things for us. He talked about problems in his family history, and what are the chances that he would be here, that he would have a life. And he said, what are the chances any of us would be here? We are miracles.

21:17And by defining it as such, the temperature in the room changed.

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22:53And then you have the Frankenstein forehead. A lot of us have like these huge foreheads. Some also connected over the profession they shared with a father they never knew, medicine. Charney was a renowned urologist. Gil, a doctor himself, explains. We've got, you know, 13 docs among us. And none of us, of the 13 of us, grew up in a family where either parent was a doctor. It's one of the interesting mysteries of the family. Some of the parallels with their biological father are striking. It's something Gil reflected on in an earlier conversation. I have to tell you one thing which is kind of a spooky, almost, you know, a karmic connection.

23:37Charney was one of the first urologists in America to do testicular biopsies on infertile men. It's not that common a specimen. When Gil worked as a surgical pathologist, he took a special interest in testicular biopsies as well. I like to think there may be something there more than just random coincidence. Charney held medical residencies in Vienna, Paris, and Edinburgh. Like their biological father, many of the civs excelled academically. Gill studied medicine at Harvard, as did his half-sibling, Scott. When Gill attended the sibling get-together in 2018, he was surprised to run into Scott.

24:11When we went to my first reunion, Scott said, I know you. I said, yeah, we were in medical school. He was a year behind you. We were friends in Vanderbilt. So he talked about who our various friends were, and then he said, who'd you go out with? And there were a few that we had in common. Another Charney Sibb studied in a combined MIT-Harvard program. She attended a lecture which covered, among other things, the pathology of male infertility, Charney's expertise. The professor? Big Brother Gil, who's 12 years her senior. So there I am teaching this to somebody who I had no idea was actually my half-sister.

24:53In addition to Harvard and MIT, other Charney-Sibbs attended Yale, Penn, and Johns Hopkins. Gill says the collective academic and professional achievement is a source of pride. We're a very distinguished family. We've got X number of doctors and authors and heads of academic departments and things like that. And it's like, wow, that's my family. As more half-siblings popped up on DNA websites, someone had to give them an orientation. Over dinner at the Florida reunion, Gil explained that he came to serve as an ambassador of sorts to ease new siblings into the big news. It wasn't like, hey, I gotta tell you this something, fella.

25:32We try to be sensitive about it, and there's no shame. You know, we're proud to be who we are. But first contact can be tricky. How do you tell someone their father isn't who they think he is? When Joe, the Philadelphia neurologist, popped up on a website as a half-sibling, Gil contacted him. Joe had known that he'd been conceived with the help of a sperm donor, but did not yet know who his father was. Before the sibs spoke, Joe found an old medical staff photo of Gil online. The resemblance was striking. It looked like my college yearbook picture. I couldn't believe it. And I showed this to my wife, and it was like a holy s***.

26:11Joe got on the line with Gil. Joe was on edge. I got angry because I thought that Gil was going to tell me that his father, the one that raised him, that he had the privilege of growing up in the same household with, was my sperm donor. And I was actually relieved when he told me otherwise. Why? Well, there was nothing that Gil had that I was really deprived of. Gil explained to Joe that he wasn't alone and that he was part of something much larger. Joe says that after hearing this, he went from trepidation to excitement. He was relieved that some of his siblings had already formed relationships and were welcoming him into a community.

26:59But some conversations with siblings backfired. Bryna recalls reaching out to a half-sister after seeing her listed as a close relative on a DNA site. Before she spoke to Bryna, the woman had no idea the man who had raised her wasn't her biological father. She was very angry. My other siblings told me that I better lawyer up, that I'm going to get sued. And I'm like, what can I be sued for? What was she angry about? That I told her she was donor conceived. She had four cousins on the phone drilling me and trying to poke holes in my story to figure out where I was not telling the truth. The woman confronted Bryna at the second sibling reunion in Washington, D.C.

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27:44She attacked me in front of everyone and told me that by telling her I could be responsible for suicides. The woman never attended another reunion. Bryna says the episode underscores just how difficult it is to share a revelation like this with a stranger. She's absolutely correct. I do not know. At the time I'm talking to someone, I don't know who they are, what's happening in their life, whether or not this is a good moment to talk or not. Diane says other half-siblings rejected this idea of a new family as well. We have 10 that really don't want anything to do with this. They're angry at their parents.

28:22They don't like us. They don't want to engage. For Dina, who's now 75, the news came at a terrible time. She opened her DNA test results the day after her mother's funeral. You know, suddenly all of these little things about my family started to come into my head, and I realized, oh my God, this is real. And that was very painful, especially because I was also in mourning. In another way, the timing was fortuitous. Dina found out just before the second reunion in 2018. She says meeting other sibs in the same boat helped her start to process the news and feel less alone. The discovery of so many half-siblings has been especially meaningful for those raised as only children.

29:04Larry Brook, 81, is a retired CPA. There are negatives to being an only child. The biggest negative is you have nobody to talk to. You have nobody to play with. If I wanted siblings growing up, much more than some. I mean, I always wanted a sister. I now have 30. What has it been like to have all these siblings? It's been fabulous. Tell me. I think the older you get, the more you have need. Need for what, Larry? Just somebody, even if it's just to call them on the phone and talk to them.

29:48The reunions have now gone on for a decade. In January's mini-reunion in Fort Lauderdale, the siblings seemed like old friends, or family, if an unconventional one. One day, the sibs and their spouses shared lunch on a terrace. Gil shared an inside family joke with Bryna about Dr. Charney's cause of death. I don't know the joke. Do you know the joke? How did he die? He died of carpal tunnel syndrome. Oh, I finally got it. It took a while. After lunch, Dina caught up with me by an artificial waterfall by the hotel pool. She reflected on how the reunions and relationships have changed over the years.

30:27Now it's evolving into a different kind of meeting where we just want to have fun with each other, that's all. So, and you can see, we really do like each other if we get along really well. It's very bizarre. The siblings I spoke with insisted they all saw Charney as their biological father, as opposed to the men they called their dads, those who cared for them and raised them. But during a reunion dinner in Fort Lauderdale, some wondered about the father they never knew. Here's Dina again. I did have a fantasy for a while that he was following us, following our childhood and who we were. Dina's one of several Charney kids in her family.

31:04Her parents wanted, and with Charney's help, they got three children. My brothers and I were very successful children. And sometimes we were in the local papers for winning chess tournaments. One of Dina's brothers won the National Junior Chess Championship for kids under 16. I thought, gee, maybe he watched us winning these tournaments and thought that was great. But I, probably not. So that was a small fantasy. The Charney Sibbs have had time to ponder the meaning behind their extraordinary experience. Diane frames it like this. At the end of the day, this entire story is about what is family.

31:43Diane now sees parenthood and family as defined by love and nurture, not biology. I have no questions about who my father was. My father was not my sperm donor. My father was the guy who taught me how to ride a bike and who took me out for Chinese food on Sundays. that that's my dad.

32:04Bryna draws a broader lesson. My entire life, the way that I've coped with things that are difficult or challenging is to look at it and say, how can I make this work as something positive in my life? I'm a big believer that we have choices in how we may look at things. And if one way of thinking about something isn't working, you have a choice.

32:40That was NPR reporter Frank Langfitt. This episode of The Sunday Story was produced by Sharon Mashihe with help from Ben Rappaport and edited by Jenny Schmidt. fact checking by will chase and engineering by robert rodriguez the rest of the sunday story team includes andrew mambo and liana simstrom irene naguchi is our executive producer special thanks to david langfit katherine laidlaw sasha pfeiffer micha ratner brian reed and joe shapiro i'm aisha roscoe and up first is back tomorrow with all the news you need to start your week Until then, have a great rest of your weekend.

33:50each time that you would just use your own stuff. You're just a serial inseminator, miracle impersonator, egotistic procreator, medical fraud perpetrator. When I think about what you did, you know it makes me feel so sad. This message comes from MidiHealth. Co-founders Joanna Strober and Dr. Kathleen Jordan discuss why they started a virtual care platform to empower and educate women in perimenopause and menopause. Historically, perimenopause and menopause have been very stigmatizing. So people haven't wanted to admit that they're in perimenopause and menopause as though it was like embarrassing, which is insane.

34:41It's just something happening to your body. So one of the things that we're trying to do is de-stigmatize these topics. Perimenopause and menopause are just women's health. So we try to educate women all the time. Maybe it's your hormones, and we would like to help you. Yeah, and I find women actually want to talk about it. It's one of the things they always comment at MIDI is that they finally feel heard. One of the ways that women find MIDI is actually from other women, and I think it's meaningful. MIDI Health, committed to helping women in midlife with paramenopause and menopause care, accessible via telehealth visits at joinmidi.com.

From the publisher
What defines a family? For a group of strangers, that question took on a profound, unexpected meaning after DNA tests revealed a hidden, decades-old deception. They discovered they were all half-siblings conceived through artificial insemination in the mid-20th century. Their biological father was not the man who raised them, but Dr. Charles Charny, a Philadelphia fertility specialist.

In this week's episode of The Sunday Story, Frank Langfitt follows this unique family as they piece together their strange creation tale and decide to become a family.


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