In short
Weekend weather and U.S. politics and housing. The episode covers Hurricane Nolo approaching Hawaii and a powerful September nor’easter threatening coastal flooding, heavy rain, and 50–60 mph wind gusts in New England and the Mid-Atlantic. It also explains the Supreme Court rejecting Missouri’s Republican-favored congressional maps, affecting the midterm House race. Finally, it reports average 30-year mortgage rates rising above 7%, driven by a jump in 10-year Treasury yields.
Guests and backgrounds
Ava Berger (NPR) reports on extreme weather; Francis Tarazowicz (National Weather Service Boston) is the meteorologist quoted; Jason Rosenbaum (St. Louis Public Radio) covers Missouri redistricting; Scott Horsley (NPR) covers mortgages; Paul Roundy (University at Albany) and Gabriel Vecchi (Princeton) discuss El Niño and Pacific hurricanes.
Key claims and examples
Nor’easter is unusual for September and expected to last ~48 hours. El Niño (“super El Niño”) suppresses Atlantic hurricanes—none full-blown so far in a century—while fueling Pacific storms; Hawaii could see up to 16 inches of rain. Missouri’s map can’t be used due to a voter referendum; Emanuel Cleaver’s Kansas City-based district is protected, and election officials will use the older 2024 map. Mortgage rates climb as the 10-year yield nears a 20+ year high (~5.2%), with resilient economy but Fed pressure to fight inflation.
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Discussion on the approaching Hurricane Nolo and the powerful Nor'easter affecting the East Coast.
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Impact of Hurricane Nolo and Nor'easter
2:04 to 6:10
Discussion on the approaching Hurricane Nolo and the powerful Nor'easter affecting the East Coast.
“It's a weekend of wild weather in different parts of the country.”
Supreme Court and Missouri Redistricting
6:19 to 10:13
Analysis of the Supreme Court's rejection of Missouri's congressional maps and its implications.
“The battle for control of Congress took a turn in Missouri again.”
Rising Mortgage Rates and Economic Impact
10:23 to 13:54
Exploration of the rise in mortgage rates and its effects on the housing market and economy.
“Borrowing costs for the government are also going up.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02Hawaii braces for potential flooding as Hurricane Nolo approaches. At the same time, a powerful nor 'easter gains strength, threatening dangerous conditions through the weekend. I'm Aisha Roscoe. And I'm Scott Simon, and this is Up First from NPR News. So what can we expect from these two sets of storms? We'll have the latest. Also, the U.S. Supreme Court rejects Missouri's congressional maps again. Again, we'll tell you what this means for this year's midterm elections. And the average 30-year home mortgage rate climbed above 7 % this week. We'll tell you what's driving high borrowing costs. So please stay with us.
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2:21NPR's Ava Berger has been covering this extreme weather and joins us now. Thanks for being with us. Hi, Scott. What can people expect from this nor 'easter? So millions of people across the East Coast are in the path of this storm. I've already been seeing these videos of huge waves crashing against the coastlines in New Jersey. It's flooding streets. We've seen big numbers of flights being canceled in the region. There's already power outages. Francis Tarazowicz is a meteorologist at the National Weather Service in Boston. He's expecting coastal flooding. heavy rain, and really high winds this weekend.
2:53Wind gusts along the coast will be between 50 and 60 miles per hour. Paired with those fully-leaved trees, as we are still in late September, we may see some instances of power outages across much of southern New England. And we'll see impacts got from the mid-Atlantic all the way up through the coast of Maine. He said the worst of the storm is expected to hit areas in Massachusetts, Long Island, Connecticut. Is it unusual to have a nor 'easter in September? It is unusual, but it has happened before. There's actually two interesting things about this storm that Tarazowitz pointed out. Really, the unique feature of it is that it's A, long duration, and then B, it's quite early in the season.
3:30So the storm is expected to last straight through the weekend, 48 hours. But we're actually not that far away from a normal nor 'easter season, which is October through May. And at the same time, out in the Pacific, we're seeing hurricanes near Hawaii. What's happening there? Scientists are saying that these hurricanes are likely due to a powerful El Nino climate pattern. You may have heard it be called a super El Nino. This natural pattern, it occurs every few years. It tends to suppress hurricanes in the Atlantic while fueling more storms in the Pacific. Hawaii is bearing the brunt of this. And forecasters are saying that the big island could see up to 16 inches of rain.
4:09And why is that? So the El Nino makes the water in the eastern Pacific really hot. that warmer water can fuel hurricanes and turn them into these really powerful storms. Paul Roundy studies atmospheric science at the University at Albany. He says even scientists have been surprised at how big this El Nino is. I have heard some sense of shock. I think, for one thing, people didn't really quite comprehend how strong this El Nino event was going to get. So far, there's been 18 hurricanes in the Pacific. That's higher than average. And the Pacific hurricane season will continue through the end of November.
4:42And at the same time, I gather there's also Hurricane Polo off of the coast of Mexico. Yes, and Polo is notable because of how insanely fast it intensified. In less than 24 hours, it went from a tropical storm to a Category 5 hurricane. Gabriel Vecchi studies hurricanes at Princeton University. He said in his research, he's never seen anything like it. I don't have any other hurricane that has increased in intensity as rapidly as Polo. And we're going to see hurricane pull through the weekend and into early next week. It could bring heavy rainfall late Sunday into Monday in the Baja California Peninsula area.
5:21At the same time, I haven't heard much about Atlantic hurricanes. That's because it's totally different in the Atlantic, especially during an El Nino. There have actually been no full-blown hurricanes yet this season in the Atlantic. That's the first time that's happened in more than a century. And during El Nino years, there's usually more wind shear in the Atlantic. So that's a change in wind speed and direction that can tear apart storms before they get more powerful. And is there a connection between the big El Nino we're experiencing in this nor 'easter? The El Nino's effect on hurricanes is well understood, but we don't know as much, Scott, about how it could affect a nor 'easter.
5:59Vecchi told me that he's not sure if there's a connection with these two storms, but an El Nino this big is probably impacting weather events in some way across the Pacific and the Atlantic. And Perzeva Berger, thanks so much for being with us. Thank you.
6:19The battle for control of Congress took a turn in Missouri again. Last night, the U.S. Supreme Court rejected a new congressional map that favored Missouri Republicans. It is the third time the Supreme Court has told the state it cannot use the new map. The decision could provide a small boost for Democrats as they seek to regain control of the House of Representatives. Jason Rosenbaum of St. Louis Public Radio has been covering this story and joins us now. Thanks for being with us, Jason. Thank you so much for having me. And Missouri Republicans had targeted one particular congressional seat, currently held by a Democrat.
6:55Tell us about the district and what will happen now. So Republicans targeted Democratic Congressman Emanuel Cleaver's Kansas City-based district. They split the heavily Democratic city into three largely rural districts, imperiling Cleaver's ability to win another term. The Supreme Court blocked that because citizens had gathered petitions to make the redistricting subject to voter approval. And that won't be decided until November 3rd, so the map can't be used in this election. Cleaver told me he was grateful that Missourians went through the referendum process. The joy, I think, now is generated by the fact that the people won this battle.
7:37And now Cleaver is the heavy favorite to win re-election in November. And Jason, where does this leave redistricting nationally? Well, remember, Trump started this rare mid-decade redistricting race. Usually it's done at the start of the decade. And with Texas and Florida and other states doing it, Republicans ended up with about nine more seats tilted their way across the country than Democrats. Without Missouri, it's down to eight seats. But, of course, it'll still come down to how people actually vote in all those districts and hundreds more across the U.S. Republicans barely have a majority in the House.
8:14Every seat could be important. And as I understand it, some voters will now be in different districts for the November election than they were for the primaries. How did that happen? The Republican Secretary of State, Denny Hoskins, instructed that the GOP map must be used in the primary. He knew there was a petition initiative giving voters a say over whether to use it, but he decided very late in the process that citizens' initiatives do not apply to redistricting. So that's the map that was used in the primary, but the Missouri Supreme Court ruled that was incorrect and said that map was never in effect.
8:52The U.S. Supreme Court declined to intervene on that decision twice in the last month, and that led election officials to plan on the old map used in 2022 and 2024 for the November elections. But Republicans challenged that in federal court, which ruled in their favor. And that's how it got to the U.S. Supreme Court, though very late in the process. And now the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled in this conflict between the other courts. So is the election in Missouri on track? Yes. The U.S. Supreme Court said it's too late to go back to the Republican-drawn map. They said it would cause electoral chaos and the state should stick with the map used in 2024, even though it's different from the primary map.
9:35Local officials like Breonna Lennon, county clerk in Boone County, and that's home to Columbia, Missouri, are relieved. She said they'd already sent out thousands of absentee ballots to voters. I did not realize until that opinion came down how much stress had been in my body that is now relieved. The fact that we can now confidently tell absentee voters that their vote will count, they can be confident that their vote will count, and that the ballots are not going to change is a huge relief. So election officials and Missouri voters have some finality going into November. Jason Rosenbaum with St.
10:12Louis Public Radio. Thanks so much. Thank you.
10:22perspective homeowners are feeling the squeeze the average rate on a 30-year home mortgage rose above seven percent this week that's the highest it's been since president trump returned to the white house and this comes at the same time that fuel and grocery prices continue to climb and it's not just consumers that are under pressure. Borrowing costs for the government are also going up. NPR's Scott Horsley joins us. Scott, thanks for being with us. Good morning, Scott. The housing market was already in a slump. Could this make it worse? It certainly doesn't help. You know, if you go back to February, just before the Iran war began, the average rate on a 30-year home loan briefly dipped below 6 percent, and people were beginning to think this might be the year we'd see a rebound in the housing market.
11:09Instead, Fed rates have moved in the opposite direction. And economist Anthony Smith, who's with Realtor.com, says that just makes it more expensive for anyone who's trying to buy a home. There is definitely a psychological weight when you start getting into that 7 % range. It's hard to adjust to, especially when this is typically the best time to buy during those fall to winter months. We've just come through the spring and summer home buying season, which was pretty much a bust. Home sales in August were the slowest in 14 months. And when people aren't buying houses, they're also less likely to buy things like furniture and appliances.
11:43And, Scott, how are the 7 % mortgage rates affecting sellers? You know, high interest rates aren't great for sellers either. They are not cutting prices for the most part. Home prices have been climbing for more than three years now. But about half the homeowners who have a mortgage themselves are paying interest rates of less than 4%. And Smith says they're not eager to trade that for a 7 % loan. so many are just staying put, even if they would really like to move. If you don't have those pressures placed on you or, like, you know, a new job or anything like that, it gets a bit easier to rationalize and justify sitting at home a little bit longer.
12:18Even though a lot of current homeowners feel stuck, for the limited number of buyers, there are more homes on the market to choose from that could put buyers in a stronger bargaining position if they're able to stomach these 7 % mortgage rates. And what's caused the mortgage rates to climb up so much? Mortgages are typically pegged to the rate on 10-year government bonds. And that 10-year treasury yield has jumped sharply in the last couple of weeks. It closed Friday just below 5.2%, which is the highest it's been in more than two decades. And the reasons for that are kind of a good news, bad news story.
12:52The good news is, even with these high rates, the U.S. economy has been resilient. Unemployment's low. Retail spending is solid. Big tech companies are still shoveling tons of money into artificial intelligence. The bad news is the Federal Reserve may have to tap the brakes even harder and raise interest rates even higher to bring inflation under control. Here's the way Fed Governor Michael Barr described it in a speech this week. Economic growth is strong and the labor market is solid. But inflation is above our 2 % target and not clearly trending toward target in a timely way. Part of the challenge is the hottest parts of the economy, like the booming AI sector, are pretty much immune to these higher interest rates.
13:33It's the weaker parts, like housing, that get clobbered. And it looks like beatings will continue until morale improves. And why is morale so weak if the economy is okay? Because the cost of living is still high. It's going up faster than the average worker's paycheck. And rising interest rates just make things even more expensive for anyone who has to borrow money. And Pierre Scott Horsley, thanks so much. You're welcome.
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