In short
Spirit Airlines shuts down amid soaring jet-fuel costs and long-running financial trouble; a Louisiana court ruling ends telemedicine access to the abortion pill mifepristone nationwide; the federal debt has surpassed 100% of U.S. GDP, raising concerns about long-term fiscal risk.
Guests/backgrounds
Joel Rose, NPR transportation correspondent; Selena Simmons-Duffin, NPR; Scott Horsley, NPR chief economics correspondent; also cited: Shai Gilad (Georgetown management professor, former airline pilot), Maya McGinnis (Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget), Mary Ziegler (UC Davis legal history expert).
Key claims
Fuel prices nearly doubled since the Iran war began; Spirit’s ultra-low-cost model and failed JetBlue merger/bailout left it unable to survive. Telemedicine mifepristone access ended after a Fifth Circuit panel ruling; FDA says the in-person requirement isn’t medically necessary and mifepristone has been used by ~7 million patients since 2000. Debt held by the public is ~$31T GDP vs ~100%+; interest costs exceed $1T/year.
Notable examples
Julia, a rural California patient who used telemedicine and mailed mifepristone during unsafe winter travel; airlines may cap fares and adjust routes/capacity rather than quickly lowering prices.
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Chapters
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0:45 to 2:30
Discussion on the closure of Spirit Airlines due to financial strains.
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Impact of Higher Fuel Prices on Airlines
4:30 to 6:50
Analysis of how rising fuel costs affect US airlines.
“get a refund, though if you booked with a voucher or a credit, it is not clear yet if you're going to get compensation for that.”
Telemedicine and Abortion Pill Access
6:50 to 11:10
Examination of the recent ruling affecting telemedicine access to abortion pills.
“The drugmaker Danko filed for an emergency stay for seven days.”
Federal Debt Exceeds GDP
11:10 to 14:04
Discussion on the implications of federal debt surpassing the US economy.
“The federal debt is now bigger than the whole U.S.”
Understanding the Government Debt Crisis
14:04 to 15:30
Learn about the challenges and implications of rising government debt.
“To begin with, interest on the federal debt is now more than a trillion dollars a year.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02Spirit Airlines ran out of runway last night. All airlines are being pinched by the high cost of jet fuel, but Spirit Airlines, the low-cost carrier, had to close up shop. I'm Aisha Roscoe. And I'm Scott Simon, and this is Up First from NPR News. The price of jet fuel has nearly doubled since the war in Iran began. Airlines are raising prices and cutting routes. Judges in Louisiana ended telemedicine access to the abortion pill. Their decision applies to the entire country. And the federal debt has now outgrown the entire U.S. economy. So stay with us. We have the news you need to start your weekend.
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3:02Joel, thanks for being with us. Hi, Scott. Let's begin with spirit. Why'd they go out of business? High fuel costs certainly did not help. I mean, as you said, the whole industry has been dealing with a spike in the price of jet fuel since the beginning of the war in Iran, which has disrupted the supply of crude oil and jet fuel coming out of the Persian Gulf. that's driven up the price of jet fuel worldwide, even in the US, which is a net exporter of jet fuel. The price has nearly doubled in the past two months. That is putting pressure on all airlines, really. But in the case of Spirit, problems really ran much deeper than that.
3:35How so? Well, the airline has been in trouble for years. It was a pioneer of the ultra low cost business model where airlines keep their fares way down by stripping away the amenities that travelers had previously taken for granted and then charging extra for them. That's not a model for everybody, but it did make flying accessible for a lot of people who otherwise could not afford it. And for a while, Spirit made money, but then the big legacy carriers created their own versions. They called basic economy fares, and Spirit had hit hard times. It tried to merge with a bigger airline, JetBlue, but the Justice Department sued to block the merger.
4:10Since then, Spirit has filed for bankruptcy twice. In recent weeks, the airline sought a$500 million federal bailout from the Trump administration, but those talks failed to yield a deal. And finally, Spirit ran out of money. The airline announced early this morning that it has ceased operations after more than 30 years. Spirit says anyone who booked flights directly with the airline will automatically get a refund, though if you booked with a voucher or a credit, it is not clear yet if you're going to get compensation for that. And some other airlines have agreed to cap their fares for travelers who were holding tickets with spirit.
4:43How about other U.S. airlines? What are they doing about the higher fuel prices? Well, airline CEOs have been asked a version of that question a lot on earnings calls over the last few weeks. Those higher costs are going to eat into their profits or make it harder for airlines to turn a profit at all this year. But there are some things that the airlines can do to manage the costs. I talked about this with Shai Gilad. He's a former airline pilot, now professor of management at Georgetown University. We see that they're cutting flights, they're raising prices, they're adjusting capacity on different routes.
5:14And they have very good capability to do that through technology. What it really comes down to is managing capacity to deal with this kind of volatility. And Galad says airlines do have some levers they can pull for that. Like what? Well, they can cut flights, they can trim their schedules. The big legacy carriers can also change which planes they fly on a given route to manage their capacity. And all of the airlines are trying to some extent to pass higher fuel costs onto their customers in the form either of fare hikes or higher bag fees. And customers do seem to be willing to pay, at least so far.
5:51But U.S. airlines say they are watching demand very closely and that they'll be ready to make deeper cuts to flights later in the year if it makes sense to do that. Of course, Joel, what does this mean for people who are still planning summer travel? Nothing good. I mean, even if the U.S. and Israeli war with Iran were to stop tomorrow, oil prices are likely going to stay high for a while, and airlines are not going to be in a hurry to lower their fares back to pre-war levels. Airline leaders have signaled they expect some of these price hikes to stick even into next year. So the advice I'm hearing is don't wait.
6:26If you have not booked your summer tickets yet, just go ahead. It is not worth waiting to see if those prices come down. Thank you. And P.R.'s Joel Rose. You're welcome.
6:43Yesterday, a panel of judges in Louisiana ended telemedicine access to the abortion pill, Mifepristone, for the entire country. For now, at least. Right away. The drugmaker Danko filed for an emergency stay for seven days. NPR's Selena Simmons-Duffin joins us now. Selena, thanks for being with us. Good morning, Scott. And first, what was the Louisiana case about? The case was brought by the state against the Food and Drug Administration. Their argument centered around the FDA's decision to remove an in-person requirement for patients receiving mifepristone, one of the medications used for abortion and the management of miscarriages.
7:22For decades, patients had to physically go to a clinic or a doctor's office and get the medicine. FDA changed that in 2023 so patients could have the doctor's visit online or over the phone and then receive the medication in the mail. Louisiana has an abortion ban. They argued that FDA allowing mifepristone through the mail undermined their ban. A district court judge put the case on hold in April. Louisiana appealed that decision to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, and a panel of judges on that court agreed with this state, which means that telemedicine access to mifepristone has just ended for the whole country effective immediately.
8:00What does this ruling mean across the country? Yeah, you know, this is a really big deal. First of all, a decision from a panel of judges in New Orleans changed how Americans all over the country can access an FDA-approved medication. That's unprecedented. In terms of abortion access, this severely restricts access in states with abortion bans, but it also affects people in states like California, Maryland, Massachusetts, who have come to rely on telemedicine too. In the almost four years since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, telemedicine abortion has grown. It's a big part of the reason why the overall number of abortions hasn't gone down at all nationally, despite the state bans.
8:43Mifepristone has been found to be safe by FDA. It's been used by something like 7 million patients since it was approved in 2000. And doctors say the in-person requirement is not medically necessary, but now that requirement is back. There is a medication abortion protocol that uses only mesoprostol, which is another medication. So doctors could pivot to providing that through telemedicine instead. It's just really hard to know how this is going to go. It's just happened so quickly. Selene, I gather you've talked to many people who've used telemedicine to get mifepristone. What have you learned?
9:21You know, one significant thing is that telemedicine has become key for access in remote and rural areas all over the country. I talked to a woman named Julia. We're not using her last name because she fears professional repercussions for sharing her story. In 2024, she lived in a remote part of California in the Sierra Nevadas. I was pregnant, was not planned, did not want to keep it. It was winter and she was in an area where roads were often unsafe. There were possible landslides. There were no OBGYNs nearby. So she used Planned Parenthood remotely and received the medication in the mail along with instructions.
10:00It was very, very clear, easy to understand. I never like was unsure of what to expect. She says she's really grateful she had that option. And Selena, we have to ask, in coming up to the midterm elections, are there political implications? Oh, yes. Democrats have come out swinging after the appeals court decision. Washington Senator Patty Murray called it, quote, infuriating and infantilizing. Many Republicans celebrated this decision. The Trump administration did not respond to my request for comment by airtime. President Trump has been pretty understated on abortion this term, and anti-abortion advocates have noticed and called for him to be more forceful.
10:41Here's Mary Ziegler. She's an expert in the legal history of abortion at UC Davis. This is the most consequential, potentially in some ways, ruling we've had since Dobbs from a lower court. And that's going to require every politician to weigh in. And it doesn't really leave the Trump administration the option of doing nothing anymore. She says this decision is going to send shockwaves through medicine, through politics, and we're just at the beginning. And Pierre Salinas Simmons-Duffin, thanks so much. You're welcome.
11:20The federal debt is now bigger than the whole U.S. economy. That is an ominous milestone. And Pierre's chief economics correspondent, Scott Horsley, joins us. Scott, thanks for being with us. Good to be with you. Good morning. Please help us understand, what do we mean when we say the federal debt has outgrown the economy? Well, this week, the Commerce Department released its quarterly report on the size of the economy, the nation's gross domestic product. And as of March, U.S. GDP was a little north of$31 trillion, which is a big number. But the federal debt held by the public is even bigger, by about$49 billion.
11:58And outside of a short period during the pandemic, when GDP was really depressed, This is the first time federal debt has exceeded 100 % of GDP since just after World War II. And that's a problem. Well, it's not an immediate problem. It's not like you go from debt that's 99 % of GDP to 100 % and suddenly the walls come crashing in. But it's more like the red warning light that's been flashing for a while now is just a little bit brighter. Fiscal watchdog Maya McGinnis of the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget says, if this milestone gets people to pull their heads out of the sand for a moment, maybe that's a good thing.
12:34A hundred percent is going to make you stop for a second, at least, and think, is this really healthy for the economy? And the unequivocal answer is no. Federal debt as a share of the economy has more than doubled in the last two decades, and it's projected to keep growing. What's caused the big run-up in debt? The simple answer is the government spends considerably more money than it collects in taxes. And, you know, it's one thing to do that in the midst of a world war or a global pandemic. But last year, for example, the government ran a deficit of$1.6 trillion at a time of relative peace and prosperity.
13:10Most of that federal spending is on autopilot, and it's going to go up as more people retire and need costly health care. Of course, last year, Republicans passed another big tax cut. McGinnis says mounting debt has been a bipartisan problem. We have two parties who are always trying to outbid each other by giving away more, both spending and tax cuts. The fiscal pander has become the default political move these days, and that's really how the debt situation is so bad. In the late 1990s, when the government briefly had a balanced budget, federal spending and taxes were each around 18-19 % of GDP.
13:48Since then, taxes have shrunk as a share of the economy, and spending has increased. What are the downsides of having this much government debt? Well, again, surpassing 100 % is not some kind of tripwire. Other countries have carried bigger debt loads relative to their economies, and it hasn't been a disaster. But it's not pain-free. To begin with, interest on the federal debt is now more than a trillion dollars a year. That's more than we pay for defense or Medicare or just about anything the government does other than Social Security. So Congress has to come up with more than a trillion dollars every year to cover old debts before it can start to fill the first pothole or invest in a new Navy ship or pick up the trash at the national parks.
14:28And when the government's borrowing that much money, it can also be more expensive for everyone else to get a loan, to buy a house or build a business. And finally, carrying this much debt means the government itself has less room to maneuver the next time the country faces a crisis like a widespread war or a deep recession. What would it take to put a dent in the government debt? Well, fiscal experts say we don't have to fill this hole, but we do need to stop digging. And that means taxes as a share of the economy need to go up and spending needs to come down. You're not going to solve this problem just by taxing billionaires or printing more money or weeding out waste, fraud and abuse.
15:06McGinnis says it's going to require some sacrifice from everybody. This is not one of those situations where you can just say, yes, let somebody else fix this problem. It took decades to get this deep in the hole in terms of fiscal policy. It's going to take all of us to help fix the situation. McGinnis says there's no shortage of policy ideas for getting a handle on the debt. What there has been, however, is a lack of political will. NPR Scott Horsley, thanks so much. You're welcome.
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