In short
Trump’s Delaware dignified transfer for U.S. troops killed by Iranian strikes; rising political fallout over the Iran war; Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s contentious Capitol Hill funding request; Arizona GOP primary results favoring election-denying, Trump-aligned candidates.
Guests and backgrounds
Franco Ordonez, NPR White House correspondent; Claudia Grisales, NPR congressional correspondent; Ben Giles, political editor at KJZZ Phoenix.
Key claims
Casualties could shift public opinion against an unauthorized war; Hegseth sought $67B emergency funding (new war price tag cited at $37.5B) amid questions about Iran’s nuclear/missile threats and the Strait of Hormuz; Democrats argue leadership lacks a winning strategy and cite 18 killed and ~500 injured; Arizona primaries elevated far-right election deniers backed by Trump and Turning Point, risking losses in November.
Notable examples
19-year-old Texas service member death; senators questioning nuclear access and “straight answers”; Arizona nominees Andy Biggs (governor) and Alexander Culloden (secretary of state).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTrump Receives Fallen Soldiers
0:16 to 1:00
Discussion of President Trump's trip to receive fallen soldiers and the implications of ongoing military conflicts.
“Both Democrats and Republicans wanted answers from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth about a war Congress never voted to authorize.”
Trump Receives Fallen Soldiers
1:16 to 1:41
Discussion of President Trump's trip to receive fallen soldiers and the implications of ongoing military conflicts.
“People talk about mental health more openly now, but asking for help can still feel hard.”
Political Implications of the Iran War
2:01 to 5:35
Analysis of the political ramifications of the ongoing war in Iran and its impact on the upcoming elections.
“President Trump will travel to Dover Air Force Base today to attend the dignified transfer of the remains of U.S.”
Hegseth and Congressional Hearing Insights
5:35 to 12:53
Overview of Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's congressional hearing and responses to questions about funding and strategy.
“As Franco mentioned, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth met with senators yesterday in a hearing that turned contentious at times.”
Arizona Primary Results
12:53 to 13:15
Reporting on the results of Arizona's primary elections and implications for Republican candidates.
“And it's Up First for Wednesday, July 22nd.”
Arizona Primary Results
14:06 to 14:22
Reporting on the results of Arizona's primary elections and implications for Republican candidates.
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14:30 to 14:45
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02President Trump goes to Delaware to receive the bodies of American soldiers. He is struggling to answer questions about the war with Iran.
0:09David Greene:Do you know something that I don't know? Well, they continue to attack our allies and kill Americans. Do you know what the dialogue is behind the scenes? I'm Leila Faudel with Michelle Martin, and this is Up First from NPR News. Both Democrats and Republicans wanted answers from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth about a war Congress never voted to authorize. This is a regime hell-bent on nuclear ambitions. Guys, we need straight answers. We need straight answers. Hegseth went to Capitol Hill asking for billions more for the war. And Arizona Republicans picked candidates who denied the 2020 election results in their primary yesterday.
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2:09David Greene:I'll be going to Dover for something that I feel is a great honor for me to do it. Honoring those killed in action is one of the most solemn responsibilities for a president. But for Trump, the rising number of casualties has added significance. It highlights the mounting questions about the Iran war. NPR White House correspondent Franco Ordonez is with us now to tell us more about this. Good morning, Franco. Good morning, Michelle. You know, the American public has always been ambivalent about this war, but the criticism has generally been framed in economic terms. I'm wondering if the losses of these troops might change that.
2:47David Greene:Yeah, I mean, if the casualties continue to rise, it could change a lot. It could change. I mean, the public does not like seeing US citizens killed in a war, especially a war that they don't necessarily understand or maybe don't think is necessary right now. I was talking with Justin Logan, who directs foreign policy studies at the Cato Institute. And he told me that the challenge of, you know, reduced munitions, for example, is kind of this abstract idea to most Americans. But what's not abstract at all is Americans coming back in flag-draped coffins. I think the president knows he's playing with fire here.
3:23David Greene:The public doesn't like this conflict, but they're not that exercised about it as yet. He knows that the one way to get them exercised about it is to have large amounts of Americans coming home in flag-draped coffins. You know, and Logan noted that the death of one of those service members, a young woman from Texas who's 19, seems to be striking a chord with people in the sense that there are young people dying in this war where their goals are unclear. And he said that the more Americans who die, the more questions are going to be asked about what the aims of the war, in fact, are. Reporters asked Trump about his long-term plan in Iran yesterday, noting that Iran doesn't seem to be showing any indication that it wants to stop fighting.
4:05How did he respond?
4:06David Greene:I mean, Michelle, he got a little testy, arguing with reporters that they don't actually know what's really happening. And again, insisting that Iran is anxious to stop the fighting. What, do you know something that I don't know? Well, they continue to attack our allies and kill Americans. You don't know what the dialogue is behind the scenes that they want to meet desperately to try and end it because they're getting decimated. And yet Trump also said that Iran is not ready to meet in a, quote, meaningful way. And therefore, he has no interest in doing so. It really just shows a very bleak assessment of where the negotiations stand right now, even after 11 days of continuous strikes.
4:44This war has already stretched months longer than Trump predicted and told Americans that it would. Are there other ways it's becoming a political problem for the White House?
4:53David Greene:Well, I think there's just real uncertainty of when this is actually going to end. You know, the defense secretary was also on Capitol Hill as well yesterday, asking for billions more to cover the costs of the war. All that is likely to have political impacts, especially as the midterms approach. Now, Trump ran for office criticizing past wars in the Middle East, and now the U.S. is at war in the Middle East. Trump wants to sell Americans on this narrative that things are going great in the U.S., that the stock market is hitting record highs, that inflation is dropping. But having Americans serving overseas, killed by Iranian strikes, runs counter to that.
5:32That is. White House correspondent Franco Ardonas Franco, thank you.
5:35David Greene:Thank you, Michelle. As Franco mentioned, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth met with senators yesterday in a hearing that turned contentious at times. He was asking for billions in additional funding for the Pentagon. And he has a new price tag for the war with Iran,$37.5 billion. And meanwhile, the U.S. attacks on Iran and counterattacks from Iran have intensified, and that has frustrated some lawmakers who are now being asked to approve funds for a war that Congress never voted to authorize. Joining us now to talk about this is NPR congressional correspondent Claudia Carcellus. Claudia, good morning to you.
6:11Good morning, Michelle. So Hegg sat for several hours with lawmakers yesterday. Just bring us up to date on what he was asking for. Well, it's part of a Trump administration request for$67 billion in emergency funding as the war picks up speed again. That would replenish equipment and munitions that have been used and get projects and equipment deliveries moving faster. Hexhead said without additional funding, the department could see shortfalls in service member pay. And he warned there could also be an effect on troop readiness.
6:42David Greene:Training right now and training in the future that would have to be curtailed if we do not get our budget needs met and met urgently. And this comes on top of a record defense budget request of$1.5 trillion that the Trump administration proposed earlier this year. Hex has said this funding was long overdue. And what did the lawmakers have to say about that? What was their response? Well, senators from both sides of the aisle said there's still a long list of unanswered questions. They asked Hegseth about Iran's nuclear program, about its missile capabilities, and about the future of the Strait of Wormuz.
7:20So in essence, reflecting the level of uncertainty and skepticism among some members worried about the direction of the war. At times, there was some real frustration on display, even from Republicans. One moment came after Louisiana GOP Senator John Kennedy asked Hegseth if Iran still has access to nuclear capabilities.
7:42David Greene:This is a regime hellbent on nuclear ambitions and President Trump's willy will after. We need straight answers. And what about the Democrats? What did we hear from them? Well, Hegseth really faced an intense grilling from Democrats. One of the most heated exchanges came at the end of the hearing with Michigan Senator Gary Peters. But if there's a lack of a winning strategy, they're in harm's way. Their leaders have failed them. And that's what's happening. We have political leadership. You. You don't have a strategy. You don't have a long-term plan to actually win this war. Win the war. The men and women are going to be able to do it, but they need to have leadership.
8:18And that really captured the fury that Democrats have with this ongoing war. They say it's exacted immense losses for the country. That includes the 18 service members killed since the start of the war and the nearly 500 injured. And what is the political reality of all this for President Trump and his party? Right. As the war drags on and closer to the elections, it's creating bigger headaches for Republicans. And Democrats are capitalizing on that. Take the top-ranking Democrat on the Senate Appropriations Committee, Patty Murray. One key argument she made is that gasoline prices have started to climb higher after the latest uptick in fighting.
8:56That's sure to be a message that we're going to be hearing from Democrats as they hammer it on the campaign trail and try to win back control of Congress. That is NPR's Claudia Grisales. Claudia, thank you. Thank you so much.
9:17Arizona Republicans picked staunch allies of President Trump in their primary races on Tuesday. The candidates for governor and secretary of state both denied the 2020 election results. Ben Giles is here to tell us more. He's political editor at member station KJZZ in Phoenix. Good morning, Ben. Good morning. So what do we know so far? Well, so far we know that far-right candidates are sweeping statewide primaries. For example, Congressman Andy Biggs is now the GOP nominee for governor here, and state lawmaker Alexander Culloden won the GOP race for secretary of state. They both cruised to victory in the primary largely thanks to endorsements for bigs from President Trump and for Colliden with the backing of Turning Point, the political machine founded here in Arizona by the late Charlie Kirk.
10:02But the thing is, Trump's endorsement and Turning Point's backing isn't as meaningful in the general election when these MAGA candidates have to appeal to a broader portion of the electorate, particularly Arizona's influential block of independent voters. So this outcome has some Republicans in Arizona worried that Democrats could again win key races in this swing state. Which is interesting because this is a state that Trump won handily just two years ago. So say more about what it is about these GOP candidates that have some Republicans so concerned. I think the key thing is they're not President Trump.
10:37What we saw in Arizona, both in 2022, the last midterm, and 2024, is that Trump himself is something of an outlier in Arizona. For example, when Trump won the popular vote for president here two years ago, Democrat Ruben Gallego also easily won the U.S. Senate race, outperforming the Republican in that race. And in the last midterm election, Democrats, like our current governor, Katie Hobbs, attacked a slate of Trump-backed candidates as too extreme and too beholden to the president to represent Arizonans. Democrats are going to paint Republicans like Biggs and like Culloden, the GOP nominee for secretary of state, as so pro-Trump that they won't act in the best interest of Arizona voters.
11:19Whether that's harping on Republicans for inflation that the president and his allies have failed to tame or pointing out that, like Trump, both of these candidates are election deniers who've spread unfounded rhetoric about elections in swing states like Arizona. So Republican voters are picking these Trump-backed candidates who could very well lose statewide races in Arizona. It's interesting. Were there no alternatives? There were. In primaries for both the governor's office and secretary of state, there were GOP candidates considered, I don't want to say more moderate, but more traditionally conservative in a state like Arizona.
11:57But neither primary was that close. The Associated Press, they called both races about an hour after polls closed when the first batch of results were dropped here on election night. And that's a reflection of the enormous influence, not just of Trump, but of Turning Point, which backed both Biggs and Colliden. That organization now has a lot of influence in Arizona, at least among GOP voters in the primary. Primary voters here seem to be signaling that they prefer these far-right candidates to best represent their interests, despite the fact that those far-right candidates keep losing when Democrats and independents also have a say in November.
12:35So this November will be yet another test of not just Trump, but Turning Point's ability to get their preferred candidates across the finish line. And so far, Michelle, that's not something they've been able to accomplish in key statewide races. That's Ben Giles of KJZZ in Phoenix. Ben, thank you. Thank you.
12:57And it's Up First for Wednesday, July 22nd. I'm Michelle Martin. And I'm Leila Fadil. Today's episode of Up First was edited by Rebecca Metzler, Jason Breslow, Miguel Macias, Mohamed Elbertisi, and Adriana Gallardo. It was produced by Ziad Budge and Nia Dumas. Our director is Christopher Thomas. We get engineering support from Nisha Hines. Our technical director is Stacey Abbott. And our supervising producer is Michael Lipkin. Join us again tomorrow.
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From the publisher
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth got a grilling from both parties on Capitol Hill as he asked for billions more to fund a war Congress never voted to authorize, with 18 troops now dead and nearly 500 wounded.
And Arizona has picked its candidates for the fall, with Trump ally Andy Biggs, who tried to overturn the 2020 election, winning the Republican nomination for governor and setting up what could be one of the closest races in the country against Democrat Katie Hobbs.
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(0:00) Introduction
(01:59) Trump Receives Fallen Troops
(05:35) Hegseth Grilled On The Hill
(09:15) Arizona Primary Results
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