U.S. Preparing for Winter Storm; Trump's Use of Military; U.S Consumer Spending

0:28Millions across the U.S. work. Governor Kathy Hochul, one of the many governors worried about the dangerous conditions that are forecast. We'll have more on that. We'll also look at how President Trump is using the military overseas and right here at home. Also, consumer spending carries the economy, but is that sustainable? So stay with us. We have the news you need to start your weekend.

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1:48Over 200 million Americans are in for a weekend of tough weather. It's over half the entire population of the United States. A powerful winter storm is expected to hit large parts of the country, from New Mexico all the way to the Northeast. And Pierce Frank Morris is in Tulsa, Oklahoma, where, like many other cities, people are preparing to be snowed in. Thanks for being with us, Frank. You bet, Scott. And storm's already, it's just getting started, but it's already having an enormous effect, isn't it? Yeah, that's right. Storm is mostly shutting down a huge swath of the nation this weekend. Even though it's only Saturday, school districts from El Paso, Texas to Philadelphia, some 2 ,000 miles away, have already canceled classes into next week.

2:33Roads, of course, are going to be slick for days. The storm has already knocked tens of thousands of homes and businesses off the power grid, mainly in Texas. It's expected to trigger widespread outages from central Texas fanning out through the Carolinas and into Virginia. And some of those blackouts could last a week or more. And the storm threatens to drop more than a foot of snow from Oklahoma City to New York City. Then there's the bitter cold. We're expecting lows in the single digits through Monday in Tulsa. Where you are, what are people doing there to prepare? You know, they're doing pretty much the same as like 200 million other people facing bad roads and power outages this weekend.

3:13They're stocking up on supplies. At Oasis Fresh Market, a grocery store in North Tulsa, Siobhan de Pinel, Jacob Washburn, and Ty Walker filled their shopping carts. Let's take a listen. I've already been out to the store once, but I went and came back and got some more meats. Some more meats, water, toiletries, just all the necessities. I'm only hoping two days. Yep, stocking up. Walmart, we had an online order, and they canceled it on us. Ordered it two days ago, and they canceled it. So here I am. I got potatoes, and I got some beans, and they're going to stick to you. Despite the cold and hassle, lots of people here say they're looking forward to being hunkered down with their families for a while.

4:00Well, cozy as that sounds, it's also a dangerous situation, too, isn't it? what people face? Right. You know, Scott, ice is the main concern. It's building up on power lines right now. And eventually they snap or trees take them down. And when they go, the power goes with them. Widespread outages are expected to fan out over nearly 2000 miles. And power crews will take days, if not weeks, to restore electricity. And without electricity, many people's furnaces won't work. Fumes from generators kill people in every big winter storm. Emergency officials caution not to use a generator indoors or in the garage when it's outside.

4:38Make sure it's not near any windows. Inside, space heaters and candles can spark fires. What about roads? Oh, boy, the roads are going to be dangerous for days. Across many states, the roads are being pretreated, but this much snow and ice is going to make many impassable. The operations manager for the Public Works Department here in Tulsa, told me that the last time there was a snowstorm this bad 15 years ago, it took two weeks to get all the streets clear. Another storm people remember here, an ice storm in 2007, cut power to North Tulsa for a week. One woman here told me she's never seen Tulsa look so bad.

5:13Yeah, well, the best message is people stay off the streets. NPR's Frank Morris in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Thanks so much for speaking with us today. You bet, Scott. Thank you.

5:30President Trump has taken military action against Greenland off the table. That's what he said during a speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland this week, where he also said there's a framework for a deal for both Greenland as well as the Arctic region. There were few details on that framework, but on his way back to the U.S., President told reporters he had sent what he called an armada of naval forces toward Iran. This is in case President Trump decides to take action against Iran, where the government recently responded to weeks of protests with violence. He's also weighing a military deployment right here in the U.S.

6:10in Minneapolis. During his first term, President Trump faced some resistance from the U.S. military. We'll look at how things are going during his second term with NPR's Tom Bowman and Quill Lawrence. Good to have both of you. Good to be here. Yes, thank you. Tom, let's begin domestically. How have we seen the military deployed here at home? Well, Scott, if you left the studio and walked to the window and looked down North Capitol Street here in Washington, you would likely see National Guard troops walking up and down the street. There are more than 2 ,000 National Guard troops here in D.C. right now, and they've been extended all through 2026.

6:45And also, Guard troops have gone to Memphis, New Orleans. Trump tried to send out-of-state guard troops to Oregon and Illinois. Federal judges said that's not a good idea. There's no need for that. Now we have active duty forces, Scott, on standby from Colorado, from Alaska, and from Fort Bragg, North Carolina. More than 2 ,000 of them in total on pre-deployment orders to go to Minneapolis if need be. And let's turn to you both because given the president's comments, military action against Iran remains possible. U.S. is still boarding oil tankers off of Venezuela, where, of course, just three weeks ago, U.S.

7:28forces seized President Maduro. What do you see as being different in terms of the U.S. military being deployed in the second term from the Trump first term, Tom? Well, you're right, Scott. Venezuela, they seized President Maduro. That was a Delta force. It was a raid. It was a targeted mission to grab Maduro, get him out and send him to New York for prosecution. There were no outside of that boots on the ground. You're not looking at a large scale military operation like we've seen in Iraq and Afghanistan. I don't think Trump wants to have that kind of open ended military mission. Will? Yeah, it can seem like a contradiction because at the same time as the Pentagon is pushing out this message of, let's say, mess around and find out and lethality.

8:15Trump and many of the people in his administration have talked about kind of an America first isolationism. But what's consistent is what Tom's saying is there's this aversion to any boots on the ground or any responsibility sense of owning it just because you broke it to turn around the old pottery barn rule. And certainly no nation building like we saw in Iraq and Afghanistan. And yeah, to talk about Iraq and the U.S. this week just left its last base in central Iraq. And in Syria, it's announced pretty bluntly that it's abandoning any support for the Kurdish forces that did most of the fighting against ISIS there.

8:53But already you see this result is that, you know, these Kurdish forces on the ground in northeast Syria, they were guarding thousands of ISIS prisoners. And in the fighting with the Syrian government, the Kurds have now pulled back from hundreds of those ISIS fighters escaped. So no boots on the ground, but also, you know, fewer allies on the ground, which means there can be consequences for that. Let me ask you both about the question of legality. I'm thinking less about Maduro or boarding the tankers in the boat strikes near Venezuela. Does this put the U.S. into unknown territory? No, there are definitely questions about that.

9:35Now, the Justice Department has said these boat strikes are legal. And their argument is that these boats are carrying drugs to the United States that are killing tens of thousands of Americans. Therefore, we can attack these boats because they're killing Americans. There are many people in Congress and defense analysts who question that. And we do know that the former head of Southern Command, Admiral Halsey, he actually resigned over this issue. He had, I'm told by Capitol Hill sources, reservations about these boat strikes. And he decided to resign rather than continue. Well, I spoke with Sarah Yeager about this.

10:13She used to work at the Department of Defense advising the Joint Chiefs on Humanitarian Law. She's now at Human Rights Watch. She said the Pentagon has specifically fired the staff that used to advise the targeters and the operators. So there was a large staff that was dealing with civilian harm mitigation, meaning making sure that civilians were not harmed in U.S. operations. That has been gutted. The guardrails that kept rules of engagement from being unlawful, those have been dismantled. And this is playing out with military leadership, too, in a recent Senate confirmation hearing for two generals to replace the heads of Southern Command, who Tom just mentioned, and the heads of Cyber Command.

11:00I mean, one is replacing an admiral that quite possibly left because he had objections to what he thought were illegal orders killing the people in these fast boats. The other was replacing a general that got the sack because he ran afoul of a right wing conspiracy theorist, Laura Loomer. So you have a Republican senator, chairman of this committee, assuring them that they should speak their minds and tell tell the senators how they really feel. but there is uncertainty as to sort of what is grounds for dismissal and what they can say and still keep their careers. And along those lines, Scott, I just had breakfast with a retired four star officer who said, listen, his friends who are still in active duty are afraid to say anything, afraid to stand up to Secretary Hegseth or go afoul of President Trump.

11:48They're afraid of getting fired because, as you know, many admirals and generals have been fired over the past year by this administration. And the consequence of that, Scott, is we used to get background briefings from military officials, senior military officials, about, let's say, Venezuela, what's going on there, what's the possibilities for Iran. Those have all dried up. Last year, there were only two Pentagon briefings by Secretary Haig says. So as a result of all that, the American people aren't getting a sense of what the military is doing in their name. And here's Tom Bowman and Quill Lawrence.

12:21Thanks so much. You're welcome. Thank you.

12:29Poll after poll shows that Americans are worried about the cost of living. And according to a new survey from the University of Michigan, they feel worse about the economy now than they did a year ago. And yet, consumer spending remains high, at least for now. We're joined now by NPR's Scott Horsley. Good to have you, Scott. Good morning. Good to be with you. And you have some sales receipts there. What do they show? Yeah, they show that even during the government shutdown this past fall, when people's mood about the economy hit bottom, they didn't dial back their spending. On the contrary, spending rose pretty sharply during the fall.

13:03Economist Tim Quinlan, who's with Wells Fargo, says the numbers suggest that despite people's deep funk about the economy, they continued to shell out not only for necessities like food and rent. We also saw more spending on things like recreation. Growing faster than many people would have thought when there was a lot of hand-wringing about the impact of tariffs and, you know, labor market that's losing momentum. But one way or another, the consumer just keeps finding a way to keep spending. Now, for some families, finding a way might mean dipping into savings or reaching for a credit card, because in both October and November, spending increased faster than people's incomes did.

13:37And how long can, if I might put it this way, we keep that up before we run out of money? Well, there are already signs some families have hit the wall. Procter & Gamble said this week that some anxious shoppers are beginning to skimp on things like laundry detergent and even toilet paper. Now, presumably that just means switching from P &G's Charmin to a cheaper brand. But, you know, there are lots of examples of kind of two-speed spending behavior where upper-income families are able to splurge while lower-income families are just scraping by. The Darden restaurant chain, for example, has a wide variety of offerings, from the never-ending pasta bowl at Olive Garden, which is just under$14, to a$90 Wagyu filet at the Capitol Grill.

14:20And CEO Rick Cardina says Darden's doing fine thanks to middle and upper-income customers who are offsetting any cutbacks by those at the bottom. The consumer is still resilient. They're being cautious with the largest growth coming from our higher-income households. But there was a little pullback in those earning less than$50 ,000 in casual brands. Now, wealthier families might feel like they can afford to spend more because, you know, the stocks in their retirement account are doing okay and their home values are climbing, whereas people living paycheck to paycheck may feel like they have to tighten their belts.

14:50Scott, is there any help on the horizon for lower-income families? There could be some. They may get a bigger tax refund this year and perhaps see a little boost in their take-home pay, thanks to the GOP tax cut passed last summer. although we know most of the benefits of the tax cut are going to go to higher income families. We talk all the time about how consumer spending is the biggest engine of the U.S. economy. Tim Quinlan notes that engine is increasingly driven by a relatively small slice of well-off shoppers. The unpleasant truth of it is the top 10 % of households give you almost half of all the overall spending.

15:28So if those households are doing well, that kind of papers over the struggles that people have at different levels of income. Carmakers, for example, have been reporting solid sales, even though it's getting harder for middle and lower income families to afford a new car. You can have a macro economy that looks pretty good on the surface, even if a lot of families are struggling to pay their bills. I'm Bear Scott Horsley. Thanks so much. You're welcome.

15:55And that's up first for Saturday, January 24th, 2026. I'm Scott Simon. And I'm Aisha Roscoe. Dave Mistich produced today's podcast with help from Michael Radcliffe. Our editor is Dee Parvaz, along with Russell Lewis, Andrew Sussman, Rafael Nam, and Fernando Naro. Andy Craig is our director. Our technical director has been David Greenberg, with engineering support from Zoe Van Genhoven, Zach Coleman, and Simon Laszlo Johnson. Our senior supervising editor is Shannon Rhodes. Evie Stone is our executive producer, and Jim Kane is our deputy managing editor. And tomorrow on the Sunday story with Ayesha, President Trump's vision for the new American workforce leans less on the college educated, white-collar worker, and more on the trades.

16:42But how do women fit into that vision? We'll get into all of that. But, you know, Scott, we also have so many stories to offer over the weekend and throughout the week. But definitely over the weekend when it's going to be snowing and all that stuff. So people need to tune in. All the latest news and books, movies, music, sports, and so much more. Even every now and then, like recipes and games and all that stuff. Tune into NPR. Find your local station at stations.npr.org. Yes, tune in. So when you're bundled up in the blizzard, Right. Reach your fingers out and just tune in.