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0:04From NPR and WBEC Chicago, this is, wait, wait, don't tell me, the NPR News Quiz. Hey there, Chicago. Forget about the DNC. I'm your BNC, Bill Newscaster. And here is your host at the Studebaker Theater at the Fine Arts Building in Chicago, Illinois, Peter Sagal. Thank you, Bill. Thank you, everybody. It's good to see you again.

0:33As everybody knows, the Democratic National Convention was here in Chicago this week, and it was amazing, but we are glad that everybody from the coast has now left, and those of us who live here can all stop pretending we eat that terrible deep dish pizza. Guys, they fell for it again. Later on, actress Diane Lane is going to play our game, but first it's your turn. If you'd like to play our games, the number is 1-888-WAIT-WAIT. That's 1-888-924-8924. Let's welcome our first listener contestant. Hi, you were on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. Hi, everyone. My name is Christine Price. I'm from Mapleton, Illinois.

1:12Hi, Christine. What did you just call? You said everyone. Okay. I thought you called me Obi-Wan, which was weird. Good to have you with us, Christine. So what do you do there in Mapleton? Well, after 25 years of working in corporate, I'm on my second week of a career pause. The second week of a career pause. You didn't say retirement. So do you know what you're going to do next? Um, I think I'm just thinking about it, mulling it over. You're mulling. Mulling is a fine occupation. I've been doing it for years. Well, Christine, welcome to our show. Let me introduce you to our panel. First, a writer comedian whose dad band, Super Spreader, will be playing the UCLA tailgate party at the Rose Bowl.

1:55And he's so very proud on Saturday, September 14th. It's Adam Felber. Hi, Christine.

2:06Next, he's a correspondent for realcitizenkate.com and will be appearing at the venue in Janesville on October 26th. It's another Adam. It's Adam Burke. Hi, Christine. And a comedian and actor you might know as Honey Bee on the Great North. She's also the author of Hello Friends, which could be a bestseller if y 'all bless her. It's Dulce Sloan.

2:32Christine, welcome to the show. You're going to play Who's Bill this time. Bill Curtis is now going to read for you three quotations from this week's news. If you can correctly identify or explain two of them, you will win our prize. Any voice from our show you might choose on your voicemail. Are you ready to go? I am. All right. Here is your first quote. Party people, come on! Roll call! Party people, come on! That was DJ Cassidy pumping up the crowd at what surprisingly energetic event this week? That would be the Democratic National Convention. Yes, the DNC. Yeah, that's pretty much what it sounded like, guys.

3:07Good imitation. Everyone is talking about the incredibly positive vibe at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago this week. Pretty much every speaker talked about joy. There were surprise celebrity and musician appearances. And yes, the roll call had a DJ. It was the most fun America has had falling asleep to news coverage in years. Can I get whatever B12 slash meth combination they gave Joe Biden on Monday? Maybe he had the energy of somebody who quit a job, but the job don't know yet.

3:46My last day is Friday. They don't know my last day is Friday, but my last day is Friday. Oh, he's stealing all the pens. I'm telling you. Watch him when he leaves. He's got a box that's going to be heavy as hell. They could frisk him for this silverware. Now, it wasn't all just fun and joy. The Democrats made a very intentional effort to demonstrate diversity of all kinds. So, for example, there were people in same-sex marriages featured. There were blended families like Doug Emhoff and Kamala Harris herself. And polyamorous marriages like the Clintons.

4:19Wow. Some things don't change. Some things, you know. That's none of my business. It's a golden rule. Mind your own damn mind. Exactly. And what was fun about the Roll Call, and they were like, I have a DJ For the Roll Call, it was the greatest roll call ever Because among other things It featured a different song Selected for every state And you know, DJ Cassidy It's easy, there's like Tupac's California Love for California, there's Empire State of Mind There's who? Tupac There you go

4:54That was for the edit Hey man You said it like it was two political action committees. Or like how I buy my Twinkies.

5:09Listen, I did it so black Twitter don't find you. I appreciate it. But, you know, it was amazing. They brought out all the stars. They had the Clintons, of course. They had the Obamas speak. They had the Oprah. And I noticed this. You did too, I bet. we saw a really different side of Michelle Obama this time. Did we not? Because it has been eight long and difficult years since she said, when they go low, we go high. This time she just came out and shouted, sweep the leg! All right, your next quote is from the New York Times. NASA has been reluctant to use the word stuck. That was about two astronauts who are definitely stuck.

6:01Where? I know it's out in space. I'm going to say Mars, but... It's not as far as Mars. You said space. They're in space. I'll give it to you. They're on the International Space Station. They've already been stuck up there for three months after serious issues were detected on their Boeing Starliner spacecraft. Wait, something went wrong with a Boeing product? Well, that was the issue they detected. It was made by Boeing. Who knew? Nobody. They should have checked the label. Oh, we didn't read the side of the thing. And it was a spirit flight. So, they're screwed. Yeah, I know. So, like, the Russians just can't go get them?

6:43Well, that's an interesting thing. Didn't they used to? Yeah. But the way it used to work is the Russians would provide, basically, a lift to and from the spaceship. And now we don't do that. We have SpaceX doing it. Thank you Elon and the SpaceX spaceships work fine And I think there's even one up there, but here's the problem their spacesuits do not fit into the SpaceX they're doing a clash is it like a The bow so with the Boeing spacesuits do not plug in to the space X space to you're saying this is the USB USB C Yes. You just get an adapter. I know. You get an adapter. But they left the dongle on Earth.

7:30It's so frustrating. They should have. They're going to have to send the SpaceX thing back to get the dongle. Yeah, I know. There's an interesting connection to us. One of the astronauts who is stuck, Sonny Williams, appeared on our show when we went to Houston in 2015. So we are pretty pleased to know that we are no longer the most interminable experience she's ever endured. Your last quote is from a woman who took Harry Potter broomstick riding lessons in England. My husband was literally mortified. That woman was talking to the Wall Street Journal in a new piece that found the key to happiness may be being a what?

8:11I'm not sure. You listen to NPR. What do you think you are? what kind of what kind of person would be driven to go actually take Harry Potter broomstick riding lessons how would you describe I'll be free of which well since you've already won I'll give it to you the answer is super fans uber fans like total nerds for something right the journal says that people who are super fans and it could be anything from Harry Potter or Taylor Swift anything they all may be much happier than the rest of us in the long run. See, honey, my$700 collectible figure of Boba Fett isn't worthless after all. This was originally published in the American Journal of Hopeful Dweebs.

8:55Yeah, exactly. Here's the thing. We all know this, that people need a sense of community and belonging to be happy. And this is something that people used to get from like church and religious communities, but people don't do that anymore. Now they're getting into fandom, which means that the churches maybe should get into it. Maybe like have cosplay, right? Oh, your costume is amazing. You're the healed leper from Luke 5.12, right? Also, the church absolutely has cosplay. Have you seen the Pope? That's actually true. Do you know how long it took him to make that outfit? I don't know if that's cosplay if you actually are the character.

9:36He is the character. Bill, how did Christine do in our quiz? Two out of three, so she is a winner. Thank you, Christine. Congratulations on your wonderful life change. And I hope you end up being whatever you want to be. Take care. Thank you. You as well. Thank you.

10:02Right now, panel, time for you to answer some questions about this week's news. Adam Burke, a new report says that more and more divorce lawyers are being asked to not only help people split up people's cash and their property, they're also trying to help determine who might get what in divorce cases. Is it like the friends, like friend groups? No, not friends, no. Can I get a clue? Sure. I mean, how can you start a new life as a single person if you lose your status on United? Oh, like, oh, so like points? Yeah, frequent flyer miles, airline points, yes. According to the Washington Post, more and more couples are fighting over their airline miles and the status that comes with it in their divorces.

10:44Does that mean that couples are going to have an awkward conversation with an airline pilot? Like, we love you very much and we're still both going to see you. I don't understand why you both can't fly on my plane like you always did. And apparently, if you call up an airline to ask them, well, can you just take all those points and just split them into two accounts? They can't do it. It's incredibly complicated. Delta charges a penny a mile and a$30 processing fee to do it. So you pay real money for the fake money you got by spending real money. And this is why those astronauts are stuck on the space station.

11:19Because they're out of miles. I mean... Yeah. I will say... I will say there is a delicious irony if you lost all those miles you accrued while cheating on your wife. Or your husband. Women can cheat too.

11:40Coming up, it's not delivery, it's DeBluff the Listener. Call 1-888-WAIT-WAIT-TOPLAY. We'll be back in a minute with more of Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me from NPR.

12:00From NPR and WBEZ Chicago, this is Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me, the NPR News Quiz. I'm Bill Curtis, we're playing this week with Adam Felber, Adam Burke and Dulce Sloan and here again is your host at the Studebaker Theater in Chicago, Illinois, Peter Segel. Thank you everybody

12:25Ladies and gentlemen, right now it is time for the Wait Wait Don't Tell Me Bluff the Listener Game. Call 1-888 - wait wait to play our game on the air or you can check out the pinned post on our Instagram page. That's at WaitWaitNPR. Hi, you're on WaitWait, don't tell me. Hey, this is Eric from Superior, Colorado. And I always ask, you're a Coloradan, do you do all the Colorado things? Are you outside? Are you hiking? Are you skiing? Are you risking your life in amusing ways? Yes, actually in the most amusing way, I'm a paraglider. A paraglider? Wow. What is the difference between a paraglider and a hang glider?

12:56I've always wondered. Yeah, absolutely. Hang glider's like more of a stiffer wing, whereas the paraglider is kind of like a big canopy parachute type of thing. That sounds thrilling. Well, then you'll have no problem, I think, taking this daring risk of playing the game in which you must try to tell truth from fiction. Bill, what is Eric's topic? Drama at Roman's Pizzeria. So, something crazy happened quite recently at Roman's Pizzeria in Miami Springs, Florida. And the craziest thing is, it doesn't even involve an alligator. Our panelists are going to tell you all about this hubbub at Roman's Pizzeria.

13:33Pick the real one. You'll win the wait waiter of your choice in your voicemail. Are you ready to play? Sounds good. Let's do it. All right. First, let's hear from Adam Felber. Forty years of serving up delicious pizza to the good people of Miami Springs, and suddenly Jesus Roman found himself a pariah. Horrible reviews of Roman Pizzeria were starting to appear on Yelp as people complained about bad pizza, gross pizza, uncooked pizza. What was going on? Was he cursed? And then someone showed him a Roman pizzeria flyer, which looked legit until he noticed it had the wrong phone number on it. And that's when Jesus Roman called the police.

14:08It turned out that a 55-year-old grifter named Jose Marti Alvarez had printed up the bogus flyers with the bogus number, dropping them off at the local hotels, and was taking bogus orders and distributing bogus, disgusting pizzas to tourists if he delivered them at all. Although the fraudulent pizza maker is now behind bars, Roman isn't holding a grudge against the crime, only against the pizza. He says, quote, at least if you're going to do something, do it right. A imposter starts ruining the reputation of the pizzeria by actually selling bad pizzas in their name. Your next story of a doughy drama comes from Dulce Sloan.

14:53Gianni Yaya Giamillo has been making pizza at Roman's Pizzeria for 18 years. Yaya prides himself on being an old school Italian. So when customers started asking for gluten-free pies because they have celiac disease, he truly had no idea what they were talking about. Customers will come in here talking about they have Similex. What's baby formula gotta do with my pizza pies. Gianni's son Gio explained silly acts to his father and how lucrative having gluten-free pies could be. It's a scam. They just need to toughen up. Gianni learned very quickly that it indeed was not a scam and so did the plumbing of his restaurant.

15:37Customer after customer had embarrassing moments because the gluten-free pizzas were in fact full of gluten. All the gluten. Gluten with cheese on top. After a$5 ,000 plumbing bill and numerous bad Yelp reviews, Gianni had to face the truth. Come on, I'm supposed to believe a grown adult can't have regular old flour? What kind of hippy-dippy BS is that?

16:08They tried to sell gluten-free pizza, but they decided it really shouldn't be gluten-free and they thus suffered the results. Your last saucy gossip comes from Adam Burke. Pineapple on pizza is divisive most places, perhaps nowhere as much as Miami Springs, Florida. There, Roman Gatso of Roman's Pizza was serving his famous pina piñata pizza, a cheese pizza with extra pineapple, when he found himself confronted with a cease and desist order from the Department of Health. I thought it was a joke, says Gatso. As it turns out, he was half right. As Florida legislature Marcia Arulo explains, as a state senator, I noticed that people were slipping all sorts of bizarre amendments into bills, and I suspected none of my colleagues were actually reading the laws they were voting for.

16:55So when the SB1945C health bill came up, I added some verbiage that made it illegal to add pineapple to pizza to see if anyone would notice. And Roman Gatso has an idea as to who might have narked on him. I'm pretty sure it was those jerks over at Napoli Pizza who reported me. They love reading health bills almost as much as they hate pineapple on pizza. While Gatso fights the ordinance, Arulo adds, thing is, it's not even the stupidest law on the books in Florida. All right. So something bad happened at Roman's Pizzeria in Miami Springs, Florida. Was it from Adam Felber that somebody delivered imposter pizzas to tourists all over the neighborhood until he was finally nabbed?

17:40Was it from Dulce Sloan, Roman's Pizza decided to serve gluten-free pizza according to the demand, but then decided, you know, not to? Or from Adam Burke, did they get closed down because they unknowingly violated a real law prohibiting the serving of pineapple on pizza? Which of these things happened in the news? It had to be Florida where anything's possible. It's true. It's almost not fair, is it? I know. I think I'm going to go with the impersonator. You're going to choose Adam's story about the guy who impersonated for quite a while Roman's Pizzeria. Well, here's some evidence of the real story.

18:23Tourists say their food showed up undercooked, missing items, and sometimes the charges felt unfair. That was Larry Seward from CBS News Miami who reported on the real story of one man's pizza scam. Congratulations, Eric. You got it right. You earned a point for Adam just for telling the truth. And of course, you have won our prize, the voice of anyone you may choose. And before we move on, I just want to give a shout out to this imposter who decided that even though he was pretending to be a pizzeria, he was not, he still delivered pizzas to the people he was ripping off because they had paid for the pizzas.

18:58Honest man. You got to love it. Thank you so much for giving us a call and playing our games. Take care. Thank you.

19:34almost 80 roles in film and TV, most recently in FX's Feud, Capote vs. The Swans, which got her an Emmy nomination for Best Supporting Actress in a Limited Series, Diane Lane. Welcome to Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me.

19:50So great to have you here. You started in the experimental theater in downtown New York in the early 70s at the age of six, which is both unexpected, impressive, and weird. How does a six-year-old get involved in the theater at La Mama, etc., this legendary experimental theater company downtown? Yes, yes, and Ellen Stewart was basically, I called her the Ellis Island of global theater. I mean, she imported, she exported, we traveled the world, and my parents weren't even there. I mean, They weren't part of the tours, and nobody could really believe that a seven-year-old was just part of the circus.

20:35Yeah. Well, what did your parents think of that, and what did you think of that at the age of seven? Was it like normal? Well, of course you'd tour Europe and go to Amsterdam. Without your parents. Yes. Yeah, Amsterdam was on the map for sure. You know, I'm still in therapy about it. No, I'm kidding. I'm half kidding. the world was a different place then it was you know I wound there was no airport security we didn't need it I remember getting off the plane and running into my mother's arms and around my neck could have been anything but it was a five pound maybe a two pound tortoise and I had bought it on the river Seine in Paris because back in the day they sold animals by the river in Paris.

21:28Don't ask. So you came off the plane. You're seven years old. You're just coming back from a tour of Europe doing experimental theater. You give your mother a tortoise. You hold the tortoise out to your mother, and your mother says, what? She shrieked. And I had that turtle for years. His name was George, and he was... Yes, it turned out George was female. Did you know that the bottom side of a tortoise will reveal the gender? Because the male have a slight indentation curve so that they can mount the female. Oh. You know what I love? I love... That tortoise lied to me. I love the idea of you being on the set of your first big movie, A Little Romance, with Sir Laurence Olivier, and you telling him stories like this.

22:12And Laurence Olivier, then in his own 70s, was probably sitting there going, whoa, this lady's been around. It's adorable. I was much more two ears, one mouth. around Lord Larry. I can imagine. You, as apparently every actor is now contractually obligated, have played a comic book character. In your case, more comic book character adjacent, but you played the mother of Superman. Martha Kent, yes. Martha Kent, famously. And this was in the, there's been so many Supermans. This was the Henry Cavill Superman, right? Okay, yes. Yes. You're like, okay, was that his name? Okay, yes. So how have you found, after all the other things you've done, after being a well-known person, you had your Rat Pack period and all these other periods, to be like a star at Comic-Con?

23:07Oh, gosh. I am such an introvert. I don't know how I would handle that. So you've never been. You didn't have to do that. You didn't have to go to Comic-Con and all the Superman fans were like... No, it was like having an epidural. I just... You slept through it? I dodged it. I did. I chickened out. I was just... Those crowds, they make me... I have hajita, as my friends say. Hajita. You have hajita, as they say in New York. How can a shy person be constantly on screen? Isn't that weird? Yes, I told you. My therapist is rich. So, the latest project you're in, it's a TV show. It is remarkable. It is called Feud.

23:51It's about a very real situation in New York society in the 60s and 70s when Truman Capote, who was a big guy in New York society, wrote a book that enraged his society friends, of whom you are one. Slim Keith. I portrayed Slim Keith. Slim Keith, who was a real person. Yes. Socialite extraordinaire, a real maven, a real connector of other people. I don't know, I think of them as sort of sassy pants, sassy pants people sassy pants people sassy pants people, that's what Truman Capote called them and that's what made them so mad you've been promoting this TV show all week and you've been asked about it and answering questions as you've done for us before we move to the game, is there anything else you'd like to talk about?