Graham on Fame, Autographs and Photos 📸

13 Jul 2026 · 37 min · 12 chapters

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In short

This episode of Wanging On with Graham and Maria is a mix of celebrity/fame talk and listener advice. Topic: how public figures handle fans asking for autographs/photos; the shift from autographs to selfies/photos; and three advice segments.

Guests

no named guests appear as interviewees; the “guests” are listener correspondents (Anonymous; Linda in Solihull; Niall in Guildford; Steve in Surrey; Anonymous; Mikey in Manchester; David; Liz and Becky; Peter in Madrid; Helen in Tipperary; Eleanor; Paul in Bristol).

Key claims

fans’ desire for photos/autographs is intrusive but manageable; mother-in-law boundary issues require the husband to set limits; after a breakup, it’s okay to meet someone new if you’re honest and cautious.

Notable examples

a mother-in-law bringing lamps/curtains, calling herself “mummy,” and trying to take the baby; and a breakup letter about meeting a sexy man from Brighton via an app.

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Living by the Seaside

2:06 to 4:04

Graham and Maria discuss life by the seaside and the influx of tourists

“No, I think it's more like Princess Michael of Kent.”

Fame and Autographs

4:05 to 5:48

The challenges of fame and interactions with fans, particularly regarding autographs

“Actually, when I listen to someone like Chapel Rhone talk about her interaction with fans.”

The Nature of Selfies

5:49 to 7:23

The shift from autographs to selfies and the experience of taking photos with fans

“And that's a difficult one because, you know, all the old comics of yesteryear were on all the time.”

Discombobulated Fans

7:24 to 8:13

Discussion about fans' reactions and their struggles to take photos with celebrities

“But I do remember walking along Hastings Seafront with you, and it was sort of ages ago when people didn't really know how to use their cameras.”

Listener Dilemma: Dealing with a Pushy Mother-in-Law

9:25 to 14:01

Advice on handling a difficult mother-in-law after childbirth

“If you have a smart deli, you can go to YouTube or Spotify and search for Wanging On.”

Navigating Mother-in-Law Boundaries

14:01 to 21:42

Learn strategies for handling overbearing mother-in-law visits while adjusting to new motherhood.

“You know, because it's like the mother-in-law won't rest till she has split them up.”

Recovering from Heartbreak

23:09 to 28:00

Explore advice for moving on after a breakup and managing new romantic interests.

“Dear Graham and Maria, I recently broke up with my boyfriend of nearly three years.”

Exploring Dating Options and Local Connections

28:00 to 29:16

Discussion about exploring new relationships and local dating opportunities.

“They say, it seems unlikely you were on an app accidentally.”

Advice on Moving On After a Breakup

29:16 to 30:55

Listeners share advice on dealing with breakups and moving forward.

“I love it when people actually send solutions to the problem, but also tell us about their own sad lives.”

The Importance of Self-Care Post-Breakup

30:55 to 32:52

Discussion on self-care practices such as buying new underwear for personal comfort.

“I'm rooting for you with all of my heart.”
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Am I Weird? A Fruit Bowl Dilemma

32:52 to 35:38

Listener Paul questions whether arranging fruit in a bowl is weird; hosts discuss.

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Am I Weird? A Fruit Bowl Dilemma

37:32 to 37:47

Listener Paul questions whether arranging fruit in a bowl is weird; hosts discuss.

“In the U.S., there's a break-in every 26 seconds.”
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1:52Graham Norton:on the app. You came from Manchester for him.

2:01Graham Norton:Look alive. Another round of Wanging On with Graham and Maria begins right now. I am Graham. That's Maria. How are you?

2:08Maria McErlane:I am Maria.

2:08Graham Norton:You are. Yeah. You're looking very boofy today.

2:11Maria McErlane:I know. I've gone for a little bit of ab-fab.

2:13Graham Norton:No, I think it's more like Princess Michael of Kent. I won't dwell into your past. I mean, that's some odd memorabilia knocking around the house. Just don't mention my moustache.

2:25Maria McErlane:Please, I beg you, don't mention my moustache. I put my hair up because of the heat.

2:29Graham Norton:It's cooler for you, is it? Cooler for you, that's nice. Cooler, yes. Yes. But of course, you live by the seaside, which must be lovely because it's warm, but then hellish because the hordes arrive from London.

2:42Maria McErlane:Yeah, no, it's not bad. It's not too bad, actually. Hastings is still not as hip as people would like to think it is. And there's plenty, plenty of beach. and we always have a nice cooling breeze, which we don't get in Nundinium.

2:55Graham Norton:Not often. But what's quite nice is everyone's in a good mood and you end up chatting to people you wouldn't normally chat to. Oh, no. Maria doesn't like the chatting.

3:03Maria McErlane:Well, it's small talk, isn't it? I'm very, again, small talk. But what are you going to say? I play a game with my friends, which is to do deliberate small talk. So, you know, obviously at the moment we would do hot enough for you, Graham? And then people say, well, it won't last, will it? They say it's going to be rain by Wednesday. That just goes on. And then also you see people clean their cars. And it's the law to say when you see people clean their cars, will you do mine next? See, that wouldn't cross my mind to say that. Well, to your neighbor. No. No, but you don't like speaking to people.

3:36Maria McErlane:Bizarrely for a chat show host. But I think because of your job, when, you know, basically. You're not getting this for free.

3:43Graham Norton:You're a nun.

3:44Maria McErlane:You're a nun of a silent order in your real life, aren't you? you would like to skulk about without anybody actually saying can I have a photo and people want you to be funny that is the problem isn't it

3:56Graham Norton:well they're sadly disappointed

3:58Maria McErlane:they just want you if you're in their living rooms then they want you to be their friend because you've made them laugh

4:04Graham Norton:no no and they kind of like where do people think they know me and they kind of do because

4:08Maria McErlane:they know part of you I know the dark part of you

4:12Graham Norton:the bit that's edited it out

4:14Maria McErlane:but I know the darkness in your soul no one can be that Chatty and laughing all the time Way I order

4:23Graham Norton:Yeah, I feel my neighbours know the dark side as well

4:27Maria McErlane:But it's quite annoying, isn't it? That you've got to be nice to people Because the minute you're a horrible somebody It will be in the paper

4:33Graham Norton:Well, it's weird When I first started being kind of well-known on telly I was horrible to everyone I was really Why? Because I found it made me instantly grumpy When people talked to me about it about and actually as time's gone on i've got much better at it you've mellowed like madonna well not even mellowed but just kind of i use a different energy for it now and also i guess i received the intrusion in in the way that it's intended that it's supposed to be a nice thing uh so you kind of try to process it as a nice thing yeah whereas i really resisted it uh when i was younger i did

5:09Maria McErlane:not know that yeah i remember you resisting you're more taylor now no the trouble is there's no uh

5:14Graham Norton:you know, there's no rule book. There's no, you know. Actually, when I listen to someone like Chapel Rhone talk about her interaction with fans.

5:21Maria McErlane:She finds it terrible, doesn't she?

5:22Graham Norton:You know, but she's kind of like, no, I'll perform for you when I'm on stage. Other than that, you're not getting anything. And I sort of think, oh, good on you. Because actually, who wrote the rule that you are supposed to spend hours talking to your fans and hours, you know, having selfies and things?

5:40Maria McErlane:I guess because it's important to talk to your fans because they're the ones who made you. Well, they made you because they like the music. Right. But you don't do any music. No, no. So what do they like about you? Nothing. Your beard. They hate me. They hate me. Particularly when they've met me. They like you because you're funny. And that's a difficult one because, you know, all the old comics of yesteryear were on all the time.

6:04Graham Norton:Well, they had jokes, proper jokes.

6:05Maria McErlane:If there was an audience, they were on. But, you know, and it did affect when I asked Des O 'Connor, who was a comic from yesteryear. Yes. No longer with us, sadly. If I could have his autograph one day, you know, Blackpool Beach or something like that. And he said no. Oh. So I hated him ever since. Oh, wow. And then I met him and I told him that. And then he said, I'm sorry. Too late. And then he slapped you. Too late, yes. But, you know, I was a kid. I was a kid and I didn't expect it. I think I was, wow.

6:35Graham Norton:That's interesting that he said no. Yeah. You would have thought back then people would have been much more on it.

6:40Maria McErlane:well clearly he was off that day he was not on that day

6:44Graham Norton:I would always say yes but in a really grumpy way show me no I can't show you, it's too dark, it's too awful

6:52Maria McErlane:wait a minute so you be the thing, I'll be you can I have your autograph please

6:56Graham Norton:I say, could I have your autograph please

6:59Maria McErlane:yes

7:00Graham Norton:that kind of thing yeah that's good, it was very like that and then I'd scroll it and then I'd go, happy now

7:08Maria McErlane:Oh, mainly it's photographs now, isn't it?

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7:11Graham Norton:Yes, which is better, because at least the photograph exists on the camera roll forever, whereas autographs, you just, that bit of paper, it's not even making it as far as the tube. Yeah, that's true. It's lost.

7:24Maria McErlane:It's a sweet wrapper. Yeah, it's gone. But I do remember walking along Hastings Seafront with you, and it was sort of ages ago when people didn't really know how to use their cameras. And so therefore, that did take a long time. Dad, how do you do this? or press button which.

7:38Graham Norton:No, I think it's also that in the moment they're suddenly very discombobulated because they got to go, oh, he's here. I must rush. Unexpectedly, he's here and now I've got to make the big turn. What? Oh, how do I turn the thing? And it does take much longer, which is why my husband often goes, will I take it?

7:56Maria McErlane:Oh, clever, John.

7:57Graham Norton:And it's much faster.

7:58Maria McErlane:Yeah, because he's not discombobulated.

8:00Graham Norton:No, he expected to see me.

8:02Maria McErlane:Yeah.

8:02Graham Norton:He was very aware that I was there.

8:04Maria McErlane:And does he mind the people asking you? No. Oh.

8:08Graham Norton:I mean, you know, I guess it all depends when it is. Yeah. You know, but how do we get on to this? Oh, yes, big out and about in the summer. Yeah.

8:17Maria McErlane:Shall we get on? Let's.

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9:58Maria McErlane:I feel my hair might fall down at any moment. Fingers of a surgeon. Dear Graham and Maria, I recently gave birth to my first baby, which has been a really special time. However, I'm struggling with my... Sorry.

10:12Graham Norton:I'm allergic to this problem. Me too. I'm pure allergic.

10:17Maria McErlane:Is your hay fever playing up?

10:19Graham Norton:I don't know, no, I'm just allergic to it. Do you want antihistamine?

10:21Maria McErlane:I don't. However, I'm struggling with my mother-in-law's behaviour and would appreciate your advice.

10:26Graham Norton:This is juicy.

10:26Maria McErlane:I like it. She consistently ignores boundaries while presenting it as help. For example, she brings items to our house, such as a lamp, clothing and books, curtains. Despite me saying we don't need anything, I've now started selling them on Vinted as a silent revenge to clear space. You've got your hands full with the baby.

10:47Graham Norton:I feel like she's escalated this problem.

10:49Maria McErlane:Yeah, yeah, I think so. She refers to my son as her baby and has even called herself mummy, which I find inappropriate. She also makes comments about how hard this is for her son, which feels dismissive of my experience as a new mother. More concerningly, she will try to take my son from me or physically position herself so I can't easily interact with him. This leaves me feeling pushed aside. In the early postpartum period, when I asked for space and for her to leave, she made an issue of it rather than respecting what I needed at the time. How can I set and enforce clear boundaries in this situation without escalating conflict from anonymous?

11:30Maria McErlane:I got the answer to this, Anonymous. Yes. You have spoken to her. Your hormones are all over the place. This is your time. You're allowed to do whatever you want. Get your husband to have a big word with her. Like, where the hell is the husband in this? Baby, where the hell is my husband?

11:50Graham Norton:No, I mean, he just needs to grow a pair and look after his wife and his son.

11:55Maria McErlane:She's just pushed a bowling ball out of her Nunu and, you know, is got... It is unfortunate.

12:01Graham Norton:It is unfortunate.

12:02Maria McErlane:And her hormones are racing. She's got a pushy mother-in-law. This is not the time. She hasn't got patience. She's got a small baby and now she's got to sell everything on Vinted. I mean, bringing curtains around when you've had a new baby. I mean, you've had the baby already,

12:15Graham Norton:but you don't need curtains.

12:17Maria McErlane:Hey! I thank you. I'm here all week. No, but like, why is she bringing lamps and things?

12:25Graham Norton:It makes no sense. The mother-in-law, look, You've got a bad wife. I mean, this sounds hellish. And I feel like this is your first baby. So she'll never be as bad as this again. But for now, this is terrible. And your husband needs to talk to his mother and say, cool it. Now, because a bad mother-in-law can destroy a marriage.

12:47Maria McErlane:Yeah, really. I mean, if your son talks to her, this is going to be better. Clearly, the son is the apple of her eye, etc. And now she's got a grandchild. but it needs to come from him because I think there's conflict between you and her anyway from you having to have a word initially but you don't want to alienate her completely because you will need her to do lots of babysitting.

13:11Graham Norton:Well, do you though? I mean, here's the thing. What's extraordinary and why you'd love to talk to this mother-in-law is like has she got no recollection? She was a mother. You know, she is a mother. She had a baby once many, many years ago. Do you not remember what it was like? Is she thinking, oh, if only I'd had a mother-in-law bringing around curtains and a lamp?

13:33Maria McErlane:No, she probably had people bringing around curtains and a lamp and felt the same. But now, you see, mother-in-law is dressing all this up as helping.

13:43Graham Norton:Yes.

13:44Maria McErlane:I'm helping you with my baby and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And none of it is helping and it's very much unwelcome. And it's still such early days. And, you know, it takes a woman over a year to get over having a baby. It's your body is, you know, shredded.

14:00Graham Norton:But it will take a lifetime to get over having this mother-in-law, I feel. You know, because it's like the mother-in-law won't rest till she has split them up.

14:09Maria McErlane:Yes. But having said that, how often is the mother-in-law coming? Too often. Well, yes. But it's like, you know, she doesn't live there. I can understand this, Aya, if she lived there. but presumably she's coming maybe, let's say, once a week.

14:24Graham Norton:Oh, I think it's more than that. I feel like, I must say, reading this letter, I think one of the things they could do is just move a little further afield because it's way too handy for mother-in-law.

14:36Maria McErlane:Well, they shouldn't have to move further afield if the husband steps up on this one. But if it is only once a week, you've just got to gird your loins slightly and also really reinforce those boundaries because you're a new mom, you're allowed to do this. And you can blame everything on your hormones and you can say sorry afterwards, but that the boundaries will be in place. I'm sorry to sound so hateful and it's because of my hormones, but really I have to only see you once a week. Yes. I know you're trying to help. Thank you. But can we reinforce that?

15:10Graham Norton:I mean, it's a really difficult one because you could get your husband to say something to his mother, but what she'll hear is that bitch of a daughter-in-law is turning my own child against me. You're escalating things now. No, but that is, she won't think, oh, my son is being sensible and saying the sensible thing. She'll just think, well, that woman there, she's got it in for me.

15:35Maria McErlane:I think the mother-in-law is savvier enough to know that if she keeps on like this, she will not see her grandson. And I think that's the carrot that you dangle. We'd love you to come and stay, but on this day and not that day. And we need notice if you're popping over. And we really don't need any more curtains.

15:55Graham Norton:But I feel like there's a kind of a madness takes over... Mother-in-laws. ...new grannies. Excitement. What it is, but they really... Like, I can see this woman. She's a perfectly sensible woman. She's raised a family. She's kept a house. She's done all that. And now she is behaving like a lunatic. she's bringing curtains around. Like, what the... You know, it's just...

16:20Maria McErlane:I think Papa Zanuck's in her coffee as well.

16:27Graham Norton:It's not the worst advice.

16:29Maria McErlane:I know, I know it's probably illegal, but...

16:31Graham Norton:Yeah, yeah, like so many things.

16:33Maria McErlane:So many things we enjoy. Shall I see what the wangs? Okay, yeah. Linda in Solihull from... That's a West Midlands, Graham.

16:42Graham Norton:God is in the details. No, you know.

16:45Maria McErlane:Try taking the baby out for a walk with your mother-in-law. Let her push the pram if she wants to. Rise above it, chat about the weather. What? Chat about the weather or whatever. Hot enough for you? Chat about the weather or whatever and be the better person. Better person? What? Breathe. Hold on to the fact that eventually she goes home. Don't let her behaviour eat away at you. Too late for that, Linda, in Solihull.

17:15Graham Norton:And also her behaviour, it's not like she's mildly annoying. It's so invasive. You're quite furious with this, mother-in-law, aren't you? I just don't understand how this woman has lived a life and is now behaving like this. That she doesn't see how irrational she's being. Anyway.

17:30Maria McErlane:Well, you know, there are two sides to every story and she would have a different version, of course.

17:35Graham Norton:Yes, she's just trying to help.

17:37Maria McErlane:Niall from Guildford says, This has to stop now. You have been polite, but this has clearly not worked. If your partner won't protect you, go direct. And if needs be, be blunt. This lady either doesn't know boundaries or doesn't care. This may feel awkward, but if you don't sort this now, a bigger problem and a bigger wedge may develop in your relationship.

18:01Graham Norton:I think that wedge is growing as we speak. It's getting big. Steve is in Surrey and he's reached for a device.

18:08Maria McErlane:Oh. The key here is your husband. And you don't mention whether you've spoken to him or not. What does he say about it? Totally unacceptable for her to call herself the child's mummy.

18:20Graham Norton:You only get one mum. Get your husband to talk to his mum. You'll be grateful for the help one day, so tread carefully. But my God, the woman needs some boundaries. He's not wrong, Stephen Sir, is he? No. Boundaries ahoy.

18:35Maria McErlane:Yeah. I've got a long one from Anonymous.

18:38Graham Norton:I didn't like to pry.

18:44Maria McErlane:This might be the mother-in-law speaking. No, it's not. Anonymous says, I feel for you. It's awful when you're so vulnerable postpartum and just trying to look after your baby. It's your partner's job to set boundaries with his mother. A therapist once told me, you have to put your new family's needs ahead of your family of origin. I'm sure there have already been plenty of times when you prioritize your partner's needs over your own. He needs to do the same for you during this time. For the practical side, your partner should host his mother's regular baby visits while you take a break. Ideally, they go to her home so you can keep yours as a safe space.

19:29Maria McErlane:Calmly respond to overstepping in the moment. Keep it practical like it's not a good time for you to take the baby right now without bringing up past behavior, feelings, or laying down future rules. If any bigger conversations need to happen, your partner should lead them. You'll find enormous support and empathy in local mom and baby groups. You're not alone in this, and you will find a way through. Everything with babies gets easier over time. Sadly, the same can't be said of mother-in-laws. No, I said that last week.

20:01Graham Norton:But that's all very sensible advice. I think, you know, sharing this, you know, because it's hard to just bitch about your mother-in-law to your husband because it's his mom. And, you know, yes, he knows that she's difficult, but he loves her. Whereas, you know, talking to other new mothers, so many of them will have a story like this. So I think that is a very good idea to seek them out.

20:25Maria McErlane:I think it's also that thing of people, grandmothers want you to do things your way. And that's a lot of conflict. where you say, no, this is my baby, I will do things my way. But in my day, you see, we swaddled them, and it stops them scratching their little faces. So you put a, I don't want to swaddle them, I don't want to swaddle my baby, it's my baby. There's a lot of that. And then that comes in the bracket of, I'm just trying to help. Which means, I'm trying to make you do it the same way that I did.

20:54Graham Norton:Yeah.

20:54Maria McErlane:And life has moved on.

20:56Graham Norton:It really has. You know, people...

21:12Maria McErlane:Oh, my God. Oh, my God, I just hurt myself.

21:22Maria McErlane:I don't know. Life's moved on.

21:29Maria McErlane:And that is the sound of the barrel scraping.

21:37Graham Norton:we must stop anonymous uh thank you so much we're not laughing at you we're laughing with you god thank you for sharing your problem and you know as that last person said things are going to get better and you know this is your little child and ultimately you will be responsible for raising them so good luck with you and by the way if you're listening to this and you're going through a similar thing, why not share your experience in the comments below and how you dealt with an overbearing mother-in-law. We will have another problem in Buttemoom.

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23:13Maria McErlane:I think it's the heat. Dear Graham and Maria, I recently broke up with my boyfriend of nearly three years. We were madly in love, but sadly he ended things a few weeks ago. We're on good terms, but obviously I'm heartbroken. and I need to know more about that. Anyway, I've always been a firm believer that after a breakup, you should take some time to mend your broken heart. I was on an app recently and got talking to someone who's very sexy and sweet but lives at the opposite end of the country in Brighton. It started off as light flirting, but now he wants to meet up. I know it's too soon for anything serious, but what do I do?

23:55Maria McErlane:Life's short. Do I take the bull by the horns and see where it goes? I feel like it's cheating on the ex, which is silly because he ended it. Is it too soon for some casual fun? What if this new person wants more? Help, please. And that is from Mikey in Manchester. I think, Mikey, you've already answered your question. And as much as you say, life is too short. You know, say yes to things. Say yes to things because we only get one go at this. but also, Mikey, you do need to protect yourself slightly so be cautious. You didn't just stumble on an app, you went to an app. Yes. Yes. So you made a conscious decision.

24:35Graham Norton:You know that thing about, oh, what if the other guy wants more? Be open with him. I mean, in your chat, has it come up that you just got out of a three-year relationship and da-da-da? You know, just say, I'm not sure how available I am for a relationship but yeah, it'd be fun to meet up and do it. The other thing, it is the best way to get over a breakup. We are shallow little creatures. And if you're footling with this creature in Brighton, you will think about your ex a lot less.

25:03Maria McErlane:Yeah, that is true. That is true. But I kind of think Mikey is making the journey from Manchester. I would like you to meet in some middle ground. Like London. I would like you to meet in London. London's great. Invite me in Graham. and we will give you advice then and there in the restaurant. Well, is this the only one on the app? Him? You came from Manchester for him? Because there's a lot, there seems to be a lot riding on it and so I would leave you casual and I would do, you know, let's meet in a neutral place.

25:38Graham Norton:But I think it's all fine because it's just all this guy is. And I think so long as you're open with the guy and he knows where you're coming from, Manchester, and you've just broken up with someone, then I think it's all fine because really all this new guy is is a distraction you know you might see him a few times you might even date for a few months and then it'll peter out because he lives in Brighton you live in Manchester but whatever this thing is it will have done its job it will have got you over the kind of horrible bit where

26:11Maria McErlane:you can do that in somebody in Manchester I'm just thinking

26:15Graham Norton:but no they won't see anyone he knows

26:17Maria McErlane:no but the man in yeah I know but the man in Brighton needs to have some commitment too because, I'm sorry to be a fiscal bore, but there's a lot of money to spend to get the train from Manchester to Brighton.

26:29Graham Norton:I know, but you can't put a price on getting over a bad breakup.

26:32Maria McErlane:Can't put a price on love, Graham. What the heart wants, the heart wants.

26:36Graham Norton:Life moves on.

26:39Maria McErlane:Let's do a whole show of stupid sayings. I think we should. So, should we see what the Wangs have to say?

26:46Graham Norton:Yes, I mean, look, I think, Mikey, I think a very lucky thing has happened to you. This guy has come along and he can do a job in that he's just going to help you get over with your ex.

26:57Maria McErlane:Let's not tot him aside like a used sock, Graham. He might be very nice.

27:02Graham Norton:Yes, but there are other socks in the sea.

27:05Maria McErlane:Yes, other socks in the sea to have socks with.

27:08Graham Norton:Yeah. Oh, very good.

27:11Maria McErlane:But also, you don't want to jump from frying pan to fire. Oh, yeah, it's very good. Yeah, be cautious because there's a great temptation after ending a relationship to just find another one. And so don't do that thing.

27:27Graham Norton:Don't find a relationship, but find a distraction.

27:29Maria McErlane:David says, This reads like reality has not really hit home for you yet. When it does, wallow. Hot bars, candles, whatever it takes, but set a time limit. Tell your story to whoever will listen, but move on. Your ex certainly has. Your body will tell you when you are ready again, which is probably earlier than you think. But do the grieving and recovery first. Good advice, David.

27:52Graham Norton:Yeah, I think the body is saying, oi, oi.

27:54Maria McErlane:I think the body is saying, oi, what's going on?

27:57Graham Norton:Let's get on that train.

28:00Maria McErlane:Okay, Liz and Becky. I like it when we have two together. They are both in Oxfordshire. They say, it seems unlikely you were on an app accidentally. So you do seem, at least in some sense, ready to explore options. Meet up, have some fun. while it is fun and see where it goes. Brighton is very nice for a visit, especially this time of year. Liz and Becky are not wrong in anything they say. Peter in Madrid. What? Yeah, I know, right? Oh, now I've got to get on a plane. Here in Spain, oh, good, we have a saying. I love a Spanish saying. Merch. That translates as one nail drives out another. That's excellent.

28:47Maria McErlane:Yeah. Or as you English-speaking people would say, the best way to get over a man is to get under another one.

28:54Graham Norton:Oh, dirty.

28:54Maria McErlane:Or on top of one, or by the side of one, or wherever you like. But we got the gist. But as someone who has foolishly crossed a continent for guys I barely knew, not once but twice, only to be ignored and rejected in the end, I would say look for someone more local, have some casual fun, and drive that nail out. Thank you, Peter in Madrid. Yeah. I love it when people actually send solutions to the problem, but also tell us about their own sad lives. Yes, well, like, he's now stuck in Madrid.

29:26Graham Norton:Who is? Peter? Peter, he went to Madrid to meet some, you know, handsome Jose and not interested. He was ignored and rejected.

29:35Maria McErlane:He's probably looking for Hoz B now.

29:37Graham Norton:And now he's just there, picking at his tapas.

29:39Maria McErlane:Oh, Peter, I like you in Madrid. Helen in Tipperary, Ireland. Is that far? Yes. She says, be up front with this new man. Tell him that you are only recently broken up and are maybe not looking for anything serious. I said that, I said that. You did say that. It's up to him whether he's still happy to meet you, but I think he will. It is definitely not cheating on your ex-boyfriend. Yes, that is just foolish.

30:03Graham Norton:That was kind of a madness to think you're not cheating on your ex-boyfriend. He dumped you. You were madly in love.

30:09Maria McErlane:Yeah. I want to know why they finish.

30:11Graham Norton:Well, we'll never know.

30:12Maria McErlane:Well, they got over it very quickly. And they're on great terms. They're not. No. Eleanor says, in my opinion, at this stage, you have to do three things. Are you ready, Graham? Yes. Thing one, block your ex on every platform and telephone number known to man. You need to truly sanitize your life in order to move on. Thing two, give this new connection a chance. No plans, no expectations. Just take it one interaction at a time. Thing three, and perhaps the most important, put yourself first, invest in your well-being, and take things one day at a time. We don't know each other, but I am rooting for you with all of my heart.

30:53Maria McErlane:Also, keep us up to date.

30:55Graham Norton:What? That's a nice thing to say. Also, you know that blocking him on it?

30:58Maria McErlane:I love you with all of my heart. I'm rooting for you with all of my heart.

31:02Graham Norton:Get on the apps, Eleanor. He's lurking. In addition to blocking him on everything, I remember years ago I did this, and it really kind of helped, was after a bad breakup, buying new underwear. What? Because then you have something that's private. It's yours. The ex has never seen this underwear. You're kind of moving on. You have a new privacy. Okay. Whereas, you know, because if you're wearing underwear that they saw, then they're still kind of in your most intimate bits.

31:33Maria McErlane:Were you quite sad about this one?

31:36Graham Norton:It must have been, yeah.

31:37Maria McErlane:I'm just trying to work out who it was. Or angry. Or angry. Angry, yes, that's always a good emotion. I think anger is better than sadness, but they are very connected, as we know.

31:47Graham Norton:They are.

31:48Maria McErlane:And do you do that, did you do that every breakup? No, no, no, I only did it once.

31:52Graham Norton:I only did it once because I couldn't afford to do it every time. No.

31:54Maria McErlane:So your underpants are quite old then now.

31:56Graham Norton:Oh, God, they're ancient now. Yeah.

31:59Maria McErlane:Do you darn them? I've got a lady who does that.

32:02Graham Norton:The ivory buttons on my underwear.

32:09Maria McErlane:they're long johns aren't they yeah they are

32:11Graham Norton:Mikey there was lots of goodwill from the wangers so listen I hope you felt some of that listening to that feedback we wish you well good luck with whatever you decide good luck Mikey and you know remember just be gentle to yourself this will be honestly I think one of the loveliest things is as upset as Mikey is now in a year in two years in five years you will find a photograph of that ex in a drawer and go, what on earth was I, what? I was upset about that leaving me. Yeah. So, yeah. And that day will come.

32:44Maria McErlane:Buy new underwear, Mikey.

32:46Graham Norton:Yeah. I like that. Yeah. Come to London, buy new underwear, then show it to people. That'll help.

32:53Maria McErlane:That's the thing.

32:54Graham Norton:If you want to send us your dilemma, you can email us wangingon at listen.co.uk. It's also where you send the question, am I weird? Am I weird? Oh, it's got a real kick. I think these are a slight remix.

33:10Maria McErlane:Like you know. Today's Am I Weird comes to us from Paul in Bristol. Hi, Graham and Maria. Am I weird because I like to artistically arrange the fruit in our bowl that takes pride of place on our dining room table. I confess to being house proud so that when we do have visitors, we don't have that many brackets, I want the place to look at its best. As the fruit gets eaten, I cannot stop my compulsion to rearrange the contents of the bowl to maintain its aesthetic quality. I reason that this must be a hang-up from my time at school when I used to enjoy art class, especially when the teacher stylishly arranged fruit for us to draw.

33:50Maria McErlane:Am I weird? No.

33:54Graham Norton:Sadly, no. Sadly, no. But... I regret to tell you, no, you are not weird.

34:01Maria McErlane:I think everybody likes to have their home looking aesthetically pleasing. I'm just wondering how many variations there can be in a fruit bowl.

34:10Graham Norton:But also, the fact that Paul's noticed he's doing this, you know, in that that's such a normal thing to do, isn't it? People come around, you just tidy up. Oh, those uneaten grapes look a bit rank and sat at the top of the thing.

34:24Maria McErlane:I think it's a normal thing to do without thinking about it. Yes. You know, but he has made it a thing. I have a lady who lives next door to me who is a cleaner. She's very good. She had somebody who was really late in paying. And because she felt that because she was a cleaner, she was very low down on the pecking order. Really late in paying, not paying, not leaving money out. So every time she went, she would arrange the fruit ball before she left in a cock and two balls. Well done, her. Every time. And I said, I know it gives you pleasure, person's name, but it's not getting you your money, is it?

34:59Maria McErlane:True. It would really be better to say, I'm not cleaning today unless you give me money rather than go, ha ha, I'll get her. I'll do the cock and balls thing again.

35:12Graham Norton:Because it's really working.

35:15Maria McErlane:I'm sure she hadn't even noticed.

35:18Graham Norton:So, Paul, Paul and Bristol, you're not weird but I think you need to stop thinking about it. you're just tidying your house you're just a bit house bribed and that's good

35:29Maria McErlane:and the way to stop thinking about it Paul is to have more visitors round

35:33Graham Norton:or to eat more fruit an empty bowl is always aesthetically pleasing

35:39Maria McErlane:and please do send us a selection of photographs of your aesthetically pleasing fruit bowl a drawing a lovely drawing a lovely watercolour art glass

35:48Graham Norton:see we've got a little window into this world there frustrated artists Paul and Bristol yes Oh, you could have the fruit in the bowl, and then through the window we could see a ship sailing into Bristol Harbour.

36:00Maria McErlane:Is there such a thing as Bristol Harbour?

36:02Graham Norton:He's an artist. Make it up.

36:04Maria McErlane:Yeah, make it up. Yes, I think once you send...

36:07Graham Norton:There are boats in Bristol.

36:08Maria McErlane:Yeah, there are. Once you send us this picture in watercolours, I prefer oils though, Graham, then we will rethink this Am I Weird?

36:17Graham Norton:But for now, we're saying not weird.

36:19Maria McErlane:But once we see your picture, maybe yes.

36:21Graham Norton:Well, as we leave Paul delicately rearranging his plums, we say farewell to this edition of Wanging On with Graham and Maria. Maria's going to talk now.

36:32Maria McErlane:How about I say this, because I never remember. We are not experts, and you probably need expert advice on any of the problems you've heard today. So there's a link that you can find on our Instagram bio, at wangingon.

36:47Graham Norton:Wanging On with Graham and Maria is a platform media production and we'll be back next week so you can join us to listen or watch. Thank you very much. Bye.

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Graham reflects on his experiences of fame, and how he reacts to people asking him for photos and autographs. Plus! Dilemmas ahoy:

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