In short
The episode mixes comedy and advice segments. It opens with a discussion about anthropomorphizingâespecially leaving spiders aloneâand whether thatâs gone too far. It then answers two listener dilemmas: (1) a workplace problem where cyclists dry sweaty cycling tights (and âcrutch padâ/chamois) in a shared meeting room, offending a colleague; (2) a sexual/romantic âcrushâ where a married man âfanciesâ his mother-in-law and worries about intrusive thoughts.
Key claims
donât âsmushâ spiders but also donât let them dominate your mental imagery; meeting rooms arenât for laundry because guests/clients may arrive and smell lingers; for the mother-in-law crush, itâs not necessarily abnormal, but he should set boundaries, redirect thoughts, and keep investing in his marriage.
Notable examples
googly eyes merch; HR/office survey suggestions; âtell your wifeâ is debated; âfocus on your wifeâs qualitiesâ advice.
Guests
Graham Norton and Punch Drunk Maria McCurley (hosts). No other guests appear.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Dilemma of Cycling Gear
0:58 to 1:40
Discussion on the inconveniences of drying cycling gear in a shared meeting room.
âThe people who wear this much lycra to cycle to work are fooling themselves because they're pretending they're exercising more than they are.â
Anthropomorphizing Spiders
1:40 to 6:00
Exploration of thoughts on anthropomorphizing spiders and other creatures.
âokay I do need some I do apologize you apologize why well if I cycle I do arrive quite sweaty and then can't be bothered to do anything about it so I just sit here quite specially.â
Anthropomorphizing Spiders
7:16 to 7:39
Exploration of thoughts on anthropomorphizing spiders and other creatures.
âGetting help from one of State Farm's 19 ,000 local agents when you choose to bundle home and auto.â
Listener Dilemma: Office Cycling Etiquette
7:39 to 14:01
Advice on handling cycling gear in a shared office space and humorous commentary on workplace norms.
âLetter number one, come on, attack that empire.â
Cycling Clothes Conundrum
14:01 to 17:20
Discussion on the appropriateness of drying cycling gear in a meeting room.
âMaybe make fun of their tights to solve the problem.â
Cycling Clothes Conundrum
17:59 to 18:51
Discussion on the appropriateness of drying cycling gear in a meeting room.
âGetting help from one of State Farm's 19 ,000 local agents when you choose to bundle home and auto.â
An Unusual Crush
18:52 to 23:25
Listener shares their feelings for their mother-in-law and seeks advice.
âI got a leaflet, I got a leaflet, but I didn't read it, but I read the headline.â
Advice on Navigating Crushes
23:26 to 28:00
Hosts discuss how to handle inappropriate feelings towards a family member.
âI mean, I think in a way, it was almost kind of dangerous to write to us because it's made it real.â
Navigating Inappropriate Crushes
28:00 to 29:44
The hosts discuss the complexities of having a crush on a mother-in-law and offer advice.
âI also wonder whether he's making the crush feel bigger by worrying about it so much.â
Listener Dilemmas and Engagement
29:44 to 29:58
Invitation for listeners to share their own dilemmas and weird habits.
âBecause have you had an inappropriate crush?â
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Egg Weighing Obsession
30:16 to 32:18
Discussion of a listener's unusual habit of weighing eggs and its implications.
âI put the matching ones together as I eat my eggs in twos.â
Humorous Insights on Obsession
32:18 to 34:38
The hosts humorously explore the listener's obsession with egg weights.
âAnd I don't actually see the reason or the point of it.â
Humorous Insights on Obsession
35:12 to 36:13
The hosts humorously explore the listener's obsession with egg weights.
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Transcript
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1:09Maria McErlane:When you do straight acting, it's very disconcerting, can I just say? Imagine if it's like this father-in-law, how straight is it? I really fancy my mother-in-law. Is that normal? Ooh, great problem.
1:26Don't look now to another episode of Wanging on the leading podcast of mediocre advice with me Graham Norton and punch drunk Maria McCurley what the fuck are you doing this is I'm getting energy up okay I do need some I do apologize you apologize why well if I cycle I do arrive quite sweaty and then can't be bothered to do anything about it so I just sit here quite specially.
1:52Maria McErlane:I've got some powder. And also the sweat has dried, so it probably smells nice. Okay, oh, that's good. Lovely. That's worked out very well. Crispy host of podcast. How are you? Yes, I'm good, thank you very much. I am all good. I was just thinking... Were you? No, no, I'm interested. I know, it's a dangerous, a dangerous game. What's grinding your gears? No, it's not grinding my gears. I was just thinking, you know, with all these kind of like... Were you reflecting? I was just kind of... When did this thought... Shush now, and I will tell you. We were on a chaise longue. On a chaise longue, on a chaise longue.
2:28Maria McErlane:Who was that wet leg? Really? Yeah.
2:35Anyway, a thought struck you.
2:36Maria McErlane:Yes, a thought struck me. With all of these kind of animations that are hitting because it's summer and you've got to take the kids away, all the animations, the minions, Toy Story, blah, blah, blah, all the animals animated. I was thinking, have we anthropomorphized too far? Because the other day, on my shutters, big spider's web, obviously, catch all the flies, yum, yum, yum for the spiders. Hasn't been cleaned for months. That's what I'm hearing. No, I do kind of shush it away whenever I see it. But then the other day, I had shutters closed, and I saw the two big spiders. Big! I'm talking like black, fat bodies with stick-like legs in the antenna.
3:20Maria McErlane:I mean, these were not friendly spiders, is what I'm trying to say. And then I thought, oh my God, there's two of them. Surely they must fight. Oh no, maybe they're husband and wife or partners. And all of those little things. Equal rights for all. Equal rights. Or they could be, you know, gay. Gay spiders. Husband and husband. Still fighting for their rights. Yeah, exactly. And in lots of little tiny black things on the windowsill, must be eggs, more spiders coming. And I was thinking, once upon a time, probably 20 years ago, I would have just smished those. Or like this, like this is how I smush them.
3:55Maria McErlane:And I go, yeah! In case I hadn't smushed it quite. But now, obviously, no smushing. No smushing, no, oh, you deserve to live there. Now we have to share the planet, blah, blah, blah. It's not your house, though, surely. Yeah, it is my house, but they deserve to be part of it. And they get flies and they're doing good for the environment. And so I left them, the big black. And then in the night time, I was thinking, what are they doing now? What are they doing now? Are you on any medication at the moment?
4:30Maria McErlane:Do you think there is something wrong with me? Yes. If you wrote it, am I weird? I'd be kind of like nice to you. kind of like, oh, that's sweet, but no, you must stop this now. Because in the end, you know, there are just some spiders in your house. If you want to leave them to catch some flies, fine. But, you know, if you've got people coming over, have a bit of a dust. Thank you. If I hadn't have seen them, I wouldn't have anthropomorphized quite so much. I like them being there without me having to know. But now I've got the image of them in my head. Are they together? Are they working together on the web?
5:05Maria McErlane:All of that. I don't want them to be there is what I'm trying to say I think it's bad the way they stick eyes on everything now like chair you know a picture of a chair where somebody has eyes and somebody at the back of the chair can talk so we're anthropomorphizing even inanimate objects well also it's those ads where the thing you're going to eat is talking to you like the stick of butter is going I'm delicious and they're like shut up you moron don't tell people you're lovely I really do like the great big googly eyes you can get though Yes My friend had some the other day and we put them on You can kind of stick them to your eyes and they're really massive I think for our next bit of merch Oh yes We should do googly eyes Yeah On pictures of us
5:54Giant googly eyes
5:55Maria McErlane:For no apparent reason other than it's funny Yeah, they are funny They are funny but they make you believe things have feelings which is the that's the devil's work well that's what I'm thinking about my spiders although I may get one of my friends to just come and humanely release them I'm just feeling when you get home tonight you're just going to stand on them you just go what the fuck was I talking about making myself sound like an idiot and then they'll be dead but then I won't be able to ever say it because I'll be cancelled no you won't spider killer uh uh uh
6:32We care too much, Maria. I know. We care too much. It's why we do this podcast. We have so many feelings. Let's talk about feelings. Let's get to some problems in but other ways. Experience a membership that backs what you're building with American Express Business Platinum. Get two times membership rewards points per dollar on eligible purchases and key business categories, as well as on each eligible purchase of$5 ,000 or more. on up to$2 million in eligible purchases per calendar year. American Express Business Platinum. There's nothing like it. Terms apply. Learn more at americanexpress.com slash business dash platinum.
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7:43Letter number one, come on, attack that empire.
7:45Maria McErlane:Come on, baby, let's see what we got today. Dear Graham and Maria. That's us. It's come to the right place. That's good. Yes, they really have. Absolutely love the show. You both get me through the work day. I've got a bit of a dilemma. I work in a medium-sized office with only one main...
8:06Why do they keep writing to us? Why do they think we know anything about offices? Medium-sized, large or small?
8:18Sorry, I'm listening. Keep going.
8:19Maria McErlane:Yeah. With only one main meeting room. A few people cycle into work, which is great, but more and more of them are now drying their cycling tights in the meeting room. Cycling tights, inside out, crutch pad showing. Sometimes they put a heater pointing straight at it. The topic came up recently and I jokingly said, I'm not quite close enough with my colleagues to be looking at their sweaty ball sack pads hanging up at work. Maybe a bit harsh. Unfortunately, I seem to have offended one colleague, and he hasn't cycled in since. Whoops. I don't want to discourage people from cycling, but surely the meeting room isn't the place to dry sweaty cycling gear.
8:59Maria McErlane:I'm not sure what to suggest. Am I being unreasonable? And that, bizarrely, is anonymous. I mean, this meeting room, presumably people are having meetings with clients. You and I don't work in offices, so we have no idea. But I would have thought clients come into the meeting room, coffee for you, coffee. Nice biscuit. Nice biscuit. We went out specially. Yeah. I used the cafetiere. What about a sweaty pad of crutch there? Would you like a little sniff of that? So, I mean, you don't want that in the meeting room. So there must be somewhere else that people can dry off their sweaty crutches. Yes, I would have thought, well, the meeting room will be booked, won't there?
9:36Because someone, someone will go, oh, can you get rid of the cycling gear? Because, you know, our top client is popping in. Yeah, yeah. And I've got the fancy biscuits and the fancy coffees. I don't quite see... I mean, yes, it's not very nice to look at kind of laundry at work, but if it's sweaty or wet or whatever, they do need to dry it before they go home. Do they?
10:01Maria McErlane:It's only going to get sweaty again. Oh, but no, putting on wet things is horrible. That's really bad. I quite like it. Yeah. But also, I cycle. I don't have, like, kind of ball sack pads. I know, but people... Do you? That would reveal too much about my life. No, but I think, you know, the mammals, the middle-aged men in Lycra... Oh, yes. ...have all the gear and part of the gear. I mean, I do have some of these cycle leggings, which do have a kind of like chamois leather bit under the doodah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But you obviously have not gone down that route. Well, I remember years ago when I was a French exchange.
10:42I was a French exchange student. Yes.
10:44Maria McErlane:Where did you exchange into France and you, somebody came to stay in Ireland? Somebody came to stay in Ireland first, then we went to France. And there was much talk. Is that the one your mum killed? Yeah, that's the one. It's still there under the patio. We moved since. Oh, well done. I know, we don't see him anymore. Anyway, there was much talk. Oh, tomorrow morning we're going to go cycling, you know, a bit of velo. And fine. So I came down in the morning, you know, jeans and T-shirt and stuff. Clippity-clop. They all came in. Proper cycling shoes. Proper Tour de France stuff. I was like, what the hell?
11:19You know, I'd never seen the like. I was, you know, an Irish child. That only existed on television, like literally on the Tour de France.
11:25Maria McErlane:I love that. I know. Did you take your Wellingtons? Yeah. For the bogs of France. Yeah, just in case. Just in case. But yes, do you not find that you do get a sweaty undercarriage when you cycle? I mean, look at me. I'm sweating now. I don't want to think about what's going on below that. But not sweaty enough that I would take my clothes off and drape them over chairs. I think the people who wear this much lycra to cycle to work are fooling themselves. Because they're pretending they're exercising more than they are. I live in a bit of London now where there are a lot of cyclists. and they seem to be, they just sort of go in circles before they go to work.
12:12And it's just like, what are you doing? Like, go somewhere or don't go somewhere. But why going round and round and round needlessly? You're about to do that all day in your meeting room.
12:22Maria McErlane:How do you know they're going round and round and round? Because they go round and round. It's a circle. Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So now listen, I think Anon, this is really quite simple to rectify. You didn't need to write to us. No. You just say to the head of HR. I know it's medium size. Will they have a head? They might have somebody who doubles up as HR. It might be them. Yeah, it might be them. But they would have said, I'm sure. Just get rid of all of that. Now, as for the man who hasn't cycled in since, you just say to him, I'm sorry, mate, if I offended you with my sweaty ballsack comment, but please don't stop cycling.
13:02I think Anon, all Anon has done is kind of shamed these men into, you know, realising they look a little foolish.
13:11Maria McErlane:I think Anon wants to be a cyclist but doesn't know how to go about it. Well, buy a bike. Yeah, that's going to help. And don't bother with the Lycra. Just don't bother. Have the Wangers been in touch about this at all? I have a feeling that they will have. I wonder if this meeting room ever gets used. As a meeting room? Because I get the feeling it's one of those meeting rooms that has a glass wall, which is why they're seeing all the sweaty stuff. Because otherwise you'd have to open the door and go, yes, there it is, I'm looking at it now. Well, if you open the door, you just go, what's that smell?
13:41Maria McErlane:Anna in The Hague says, I live in the Netherlands, the home of cyclists. Well, she'll have something to say. I've never had this issue. First of all, no one here cycles in cycling tights. How far are they coming from? exclamation mark, question mark. People here simply cycle in normal clothes and there are no such issues. Maybe make fun of their tights to solve the problem. He's done that. I bet they're also wearing a helmet. The Dutch will laugh at anyone wearing such things as cycling clothes and a cycling helmet. Now I'm conflicted. I'm conflicted now. You should wear a helmet. Joking aside though, you are not being unreasonable.
14:17Maria McErlane:They are being disgusting. Start hanging your bras there as well and big underpants. That'll teach them a lesson. I think that will just exacerbate the problem. I mean, bring your whole laundry in for the week, frankly. Over the chair, duvet cover, we're not going to need four chairs, pillowcases. Vanessa, also in the Netherlands. Home of cycling, we now know. We do now know that. A meeting room is not suitable place for hanging clothing in general, as there could be guests or customers arriving. It's really not professional. Even if you remove the clothing before any meeting, the smell of sweaty clothing will remain in the room.
14:55Maria McErlane:True, Dat. You can maybe suggest a drying rack placed somewhere in the building, maybe in a copy room as that's warm so the clothes dry quicker. You're assuming that the medium-sized meeting room also has an adjoining copy room. Yes. What do you think this company does? Very little. I know they never have meetings. Do you think they make cycling shorts? Troy, oh my God, we're going around the world now. He's from Philadelphia. They love cycling in Philadelphia. They do. It's quite flat. They do. At first I thought, you're not unreasonable, but then I wondered, if this is just a meeting room, are you actually in there all day?
15:32Maria McErlane:If not, perhaps you can designate a drying hour for their gear and then ask them to pull it before meetings start. I thought your joke was funny, but as you say, you don't want to discourage them, so look for a solution. Thank you, Troy in Philadelphia. For nothing. Troy's advice is you should really find a solution yeah we were hoping you'd provide that Troy but at least he liked the joke yes that was a nice thing to say Mark in Outing Bridge Outing Bridge what is it? Ooty Bridge South Yorkshire Ooty Bridge where is it? how would you pronounce it? it's in South Yorkshire no but how are you pronouncing it?
16:12right greatly Outing Bridge
16:16Maria McErlane:I'm Mark in Outing Bridge I'm marking Outybridge, South Yorkshire. Does that sound about right? Yeah, that's perfect. Sorry. That's incredible. Sorry, Outybridge or Ootybridge. He says, you could ask someone to devise a cycling to work survey to be sent out to all employees and ask the standard questions about who is cycling to work and why, but also add in some questions about the in-office facilities and whether they are adequate, and if not, what is needed. This would give you and other staff the opportunity to highlight the already very obvious problem and offer suggestions such as separate, more out-of-the-way drying areas.
16:55Maria McErlane:This might also bring the problem to the attention of the shameless shorts exhibitionists who then might change their outrageous behaviour. Good face. Mark, I just feel you're one of those people who wants to have a meeting about a meeting. There is a meeting room going a bit. Yeah, I know, really. Well, Anonymous, thank you very much for sharing that problem and hopefully the Wangers might have helped with some of their solutions. No time to rest on our laurels, however, because another problem is coming up very shortly. Experience a membership that backs what you're building with American Express Business Platinum.
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18:41of visualized podcasting, Maria.
18:43Maria McErlane:I am all over it. Stream-wanging on on your smart telly now. Letter number two, is there an envelope? There is an envelope. They never let us down, do they? No. Never, ever let us down. Second class post is changing. Oh my goodness. That's all I know. We'll have to get into that. I got a leaflet, I got a leaflet, but I didn't read it, but I read the headline. Second class post is changing. I think what it means is second class post is no longer available. Oh, is that what it is? You just have to payÂŁ17 for a letter now. That seems all right. Yeah, that's fine. Fine. Dear Graham and Maria, this is a really weird one and I'm not even sure what advice you can give me or why I'm writing in.
19:24Maria McErlane:Yeah, why? Plus de change. Oh my God. But I really fancy my mother-in-law. Is that normal? Ooh, great problem. Lovely. Keep going. I've been married to my missus for a couple of years. She's my world. All good there. But the more time I spend with her family, the more my crush on her mum grows. It's not serious at all. I'm not in love. She's just a very attractive lady. She keeps in shape and has a great figure. Plus, she's very smiley all the time and has an incredibly pretty face. We all have a laugh together and I find her very easy company. Like I say, it really is just a crush and I'll never do anything stupid.
20:05Maria McErlane:I guess I just wonder how I can get over it and stop thinking certain thoughts. And that's from Dean, not my real name. You picked a good name though. Oh, Dean, I think this is how you get over it. Tell your wife that you fancy her mum. Well, no, also hang around a minute, Dean, and your wife's going to be your mum-in-law. So this is a lovely problem because the woman you're married to is about to morph into the woman you fancy. Yeah, maybe you could have a twosome with a threesome. Oh, no. That's a very awkward Christmas. Yes. Especially if it doesn't go well. Leg or breast.
20:48Maria McErlane:Look, I think you know that this is madness, Dean, and it's great that you've got a mother-in-law that you do find attractive. And I'm slightly again, although she's got a great figure, plus she's very smiley and has an incredibly pretty face. I mean, shut up. You fancy her. But I think, you know, the only weird thing about this is that she's your mother-in-law. Because actually, you know, we are allowed, if you're in a relationship, to fancy other people, to kind of go, oh, they're lovely. You know, because I think Dean has a handle on this. You know, it's not serious, not in love. He just, you know, a bit of a crush.
21:24She's very friendly. And smiley. And smiley. Very pretty face. And she's a body. Oh, my God.
21:31Maria McErlane:That does not suit you, Graham. You stop doing this immediately. I just have this awful feeling, Dean, not your real name, that one kind of, you know, family event where you both have too much to drink, you're going to just blow it all up because that's what men do. And you say that your wife is your... I sound like a very bitter person. You say that your wife is your world and that, you know, you love her and all of that. So just say to her one day, probably after you've had sex, I can't wait till you get older your mum is really fit if I wasn't with you I would have a go at that
22:16we'll put the kettle on and see how well that goes
22:20Maria McErlane:because then it's out in the open I mean you've made it out in the open to us if you want us to kind of go no it's very common and why don't you act on it and spoil everything for everyone But no, he's definitely, no. I think he'd like to stop thinking the thoughts. And I think we know what the thoughts are. Well, stop thinking them then, you know. It's like we had a few little while ago about that old man that wanted to. Oh, yeah. With a 20-year-old. It's just like, give over yourself. This is not going to happen. Find someone else to be the object of your wank fantasies. Well, that's what we're talking about, isn't it?
22:52Maria McErlane:Yes, it is. I think that's when he's having the thoughts. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And, you know, the whole thing about those fantasies is that they are exactly that, fantasies. But I think what you can do is seriously look for your mother-in-law in your wife because she's there. You know, she has probably a very similar face. No, but it's not that. It's not that he wants his wife to be the mother-in-law. He wants both. He wants both. It's never enough. But one is a fantasy. Is it, though? Yes. Will it stay that way? I think so. Yes, Dean, it must stay that way. You know, it is. I mean, I think in a way, it was almost kind of dangerous to write to us because it's made it real.
23:34You know, because you put the fantasy out in the real world and you're now listening to us talking about it.
23:41Maria McErlane:That's one step away from making it a reality. So I do think it is kind of dangerous. So try to shut it down. I mean, I think it's as simple as when you have those thoughts, change them. You know, just go through your Rolodex and stop on another letter. Don't go for M for mother-in-law. Think of Liz Truss or Theresa May or somebody like that. Yeah, someone really hot. Yeah, someone really hot like that. Shall we see what the wangers have said to say about Liz? I hope. I hope they've been respectful. I think they will have been. Jude says, she's your mother-in-law for God's sake. That should be enough.
24:21Maria McErlane:Just stop it. That's good advice. I feel like Jude is somebody's mother-in-law. I think that was basically what we said, Jude. Helga the Horrible in Norway. Regular correspondent. If this is mainly in context of your encounters with your mother-in-law, then you need to limit the times you are around her until you've sorted yourself out. You must also ensure you're never ever alone with her to avoid any awkward moments. Work on your relationship with your wife. Go through her childhood stories and photos. So your head reads the difference between her and her mother. Isn't there a father-in-law in the picture?
25:00Maria McErlane:He's so hot. No. The father-in-law ran off with his son's wife. If so, try and get closer to him and spend more time with him rather than the wife. Really. There's something I want to show you in the shed. When you do straight acting, it's very disconcerting. Can I just say? He's about to have sex with his father-in-law. How straight is it? In your head. Tracey in Krugersdorp, South Africa. Beautifully pronounced. Krugersdorp. Krugersdorp, South Africa. We've had this before, actually. Have we? Yes, I remember going Kruger. Yeah, we've done this before. Presumably it's the same person in Krugersdorp.
25:44I can't believe we've got two correspondents there.
25:47Maria McErlane:Anyway, Tracey says, Is your wife's name Stacey? because it sounds like her mum has got it going on. Don't understand that. That is very funny in Kruger's Dorp. In Kruger's Dorp, that would get a laugh followed by a round of applause. Oh, wow. Yeah. Try it in South Africa and see if it's funnier. Is your wife's name Stacey?
26:13Maria McErlane:Anyway, the fact... Killed. Yeah. The fact that your crush is growing makes me think this is more of a limerent situation than a harmless attraction that can lead to some very inappropriate intrusive thoughts, especially when the object of your obsession is someone you can't realistically avoid. My only advice is to focus on her flaws and consciously challenge the fantasy. I mean, God, what is wrong with these men? It's like if something is out of reach, you want it way more. and your mother-in-law is really out of reach, unless you want to blow up your life and your wife's life and your mother-in-law's life with a massive hand grenade.
26:55No, but I think actually maybe, maybe your advice, which I think you were being slightly facetious, but maybe he should do it, is... Tell the wife. Tell the wife.
27:04Maria McErlane:I wasn't being facetious. I was just saying, you get it out. You get it out into a place where she's going to laugh at you or she's going to say, you ever dare touch my mum, I will kill you with my nail file. No, but also I think she'll probably then tell the mother. Of course she will. Oh, that would be awful, wouldn't it? He really fancies you. And then the mother will go, does he? Okay. Yeah, and then she'll have more lipstick on next time she comes around. Yeah. And she'll wear it in her bikini, even though she's only taking the kids to school. Yeah, and she'll get her husband to build a tiny sauna in the back garden.
27:33Maria McErlane:Why a tiny one? Because there's only room for two people.
27:39Maria McErlane:Anyway, Rob in Bournemouth has a lot to say, and I'm just going to have a deep breath. My advice is that he's probably being much harder on himself than he needs to be. From what he's written, I don't see a man who wants to betray his wife or run off with his mother-in-law. I see a happily married man who happens to have noticed that his mother-in-law is an attractive, kind and engaging person. That's hardly shocking. I also wonder whether he's making the crush feel bigger by worrying about it so much. The harder we try not to think about something, the more attention we end up giving it. Instead of fighting the thought, perhaps he should simply acknowledge it without judging himself for it.
28:16Maria McErlane:As long as he keeps sensible boundaries, doesn't encourage the fantasy, and continues investing his time and his energy into his marriage, I suspect the crush will fade naturally. I think Rob is rather wise. I mean, I know it was a lot of reading for you, so you're a guinem. But I think he's right. He is right, but also, how old is this Dean? Because can you not police yourself in the manner that you're meant to? Well, no, because once you let a thought like that in, once you kind of, you know, you're chatting away, and then you just notice out of the corner of her eye, you know, she's bending to pick the Sunday roast out, and you go, oh.
29:01Stop doing that. Then that thought is in your head now, and then she's a bit smiley and friendly to you, and go, oh, she seems to really like me. and suddenly there you go.
29:10Maria McErlane:Any more for any more? Yeah, sorry, I'm afraid there is. Lisa, you're human, so I don't think it's necessarily abnormal, but I think you'd be wise to refocus your attention on your wife and on yourself. Maybe when you look at your mother-in-law admiringly, you can focus more on the attributes your wife shares with her and how you can develop those same attributes in yourself to make your marriage stronger. Focus more on your wife's best qualities and compliment her on those. That's good advice. That is good advice. But I do feel that something is so appealing when it's out of reach. Yes. Wangers, any advice?
29:44Because have you had an inappropriate crush? How did you cope with it? Do tell us in the comments below. We do love getting these dilemmas, so why not share yours? It's very easy. Just email us, wangingon at listen.co.uk. That is also where you send your... I'm my weird. Today's, today's, go on.
30:05Maria McErlane:Yeah, okay. Today's Am I Weird comes to us from Ellie, who says, Hi, Graham and Maria. Am I weird? When I get a new box of eggs, I get up my weighing scales and mark each one with the amount it weighs. I put the matching ones together as I eat my eggs in twos. If I have outliers, for example, two that are 68 grams, one that is 60 grams and one that is 70 grams, I will make a recipe where the eggs require cracking, thus in my head the weight no longer has importance. I do this because when you cook boiled eggs together at the same weight they will cook at the same speed. Oh, I get it now.
30:50Maria McErlane:I have attached a picture of this week's eggs which are quite a disappointing set. In the circumstance I will settle for cooking 66 grams plus 68 grams at the same time. My partner thinks I'm strange, but I'd like the judgment of the professionals, and that's you too. Oh, here's a picture. Picture coming in now. Looks vaguely obscene. It does, doesn't it? Yeah. It looks like that one about the cycling shorts and the sweaty ball sack. Oh, isn't it? Now, who wrote this in? Oh, Ellie. Ellie. Ellie, I mean, I wasn't interested in this. And now I look at the picture, I'm thinking, how amazing that one of the eggs is 72.
31:33and one is only 63. I mean, that's a whole 10 gram difference. That's a, you know, what hen did that come out of? I can't engage with this conversation. No, like I say, I was not interested, but now I kind of am. Do you know what? She's kind of sent this picture in so we could admire her beautiful marble pestle and mortar.
31:53Maria McErlane:Is that marble or is it wood? Oh, maybe it's wood. Maybe it's wood. And there's a nice stone thing there. Yeah. It's a lovely kitchen. Ellie, look, you're going to keep doing this till you become busy.
32:09And then it's going to stop. Because if you, I mean, this has to be the least important thing in your week.
32:17Maria McErlane:So I don't think it's weird, but I think it's very obsessive. And I don't actually see the reason or the point of it. Yes, I mean... I really don't see the, I mean, I read it out and I wasn't paying attention. Well, because the 264s will cook at exactly the same time. What? I mean, how much difference does a 10 grams make in boiling water? You'd be surprised. I'm going to say none. I'm going to say none whatsoever. Also, the other weird thing about this is, how did it start? Like, what weird moment was there when she opened two eggs and went, oh my God, this one's raw, this one's hard boiled. I'm thinking that Ellie has had this weight obsession with things for a long, long time.
32:59Maria McErlane:I'm imagining Ellie has probably even done this on the weighing scales and put her breasts on to see if there's a difference between 10 grams difference with my breasts. I can't boil either of those. It seems to me that, you know, if you're one of these, there's an obsessiveness about it, which, you know, I would say weigh them and go, hmm, that's interesting. but to mark them and then make sure you do them in the right order or whatever that order was. I read it. I didn't pay attention. Yeah, but also I feel like, yes, it's just that you've got to do it. It always makes me slightly worried for someone.
33:38You know, you might look at the eggs one week and kind of think, dear God, that looks much bigger than the others. I wonder how much it weighs.
33:44Maria McErlane:Yeah, for a point nothing of a second. Yes. And then you go, oh, a shiny thing over there. Yeah, I think, one, how did it start, Ellie? and two, when will it stop? Because it's going to stop. It has to stop. Won't it? You know, you don't think you're weird doing it. You carry on doing it. Your husband thinks you're strange. But maybe he secretly thinks that's kind of cute. Were you slightly surprised there was a partner in this? The partner is a chicken. Stop wearing my eggs, bitch. You're giving me a complex. They're all my children. I love them all. Now her husband is American. He's an American cock.
34:25American chicken. Who lays eggs. She's a lesbian with a hen. She's a lesbian. Okay.
34:30Maria McErlane:Lesbian chicken. Lesbian.
34:36We can't top that. Let's get out of here. Bye. See you next week. At least Am I Weird brings a curtain down on this fabulous edition of Wanging On. I wonder if Maria's going to tell us something now.
34:49Maria McErlane:I don't know. I will have a look and see. Despite what Ellie says, we are not professionals or experts of any kind. So if you need genuine help, please seek it out from the proper channels. There's a link in our Instagram bio. We're at wanging on. Wanging on with Graeme Maria is a platform media production and unbelievably, we're going to do this again next week. Goodbye.
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How do you solve an inappropriate crush on your mother-in-law? Graham Norton and Maria McErlane tackle one of the most awkward listener dilemmas yet. Plus, Graham goes on a hilarious rant about cyclists in Lycra and sweaty shorts...
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