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41:42Okay. Jesus. Okay. Sunday. I wake up. I get out of bed. I brush my teeth. I open my phone. Oh my God. What do you find? Sam goes to meet the board at OpenAI HQ where he posts a photo of him with a guest badge saying it's the first and last time he will ever wear one of them. I did see that. He is theoretically going in order to negotiate with them on becoming CEO again, getting rid of the current board and working on getting a new board in because again, they had theoretically agreed to replace themselves. yeah i remember this unfolding on my timeline because i was still reading all of the reactions of what a crazy day in tech that sam altman is getting fired from open ai this might be the craziest day oh he's he might be going back okay it's also an even crazier day now like all that happened yeah yeah like oh is this gonna be a nothing burger uh and then he goes back and And he's trying to work with them to both find a new, to basically find new board members.

42:47And what was funny about this is that Mira Muerta, who was the interim CEO that they elevated to CEO after they fired him, she was trying, the one that was trying to work with them to get him rehired. Yeah. He set this noon deadline for them to like figure it out. They asked him if they could extend to 5 p.m. He said, okay. And in that five-hour period of time where he asked if they could extend till 5 p.m., they fired Mira and hired a new interim CEO. What? Which, to me, just says that they are telling him one thing and trying to shove something in at the last minute. Wow. Yeah, which is not great.

43:30And they hired as the new interim CEO Emmett Scheer, who is the co-founder of Twitch for some reason. Straight off the streets. Yeah. Like, you, do you want to be the CEO? come on get over here kind of i mean apparently they went to a bunch of like two different ai companies and asked them in five hours in five hours zoom calls like hey can i get on a call real quick you want a job you want to be the ceo of open ai your biggest competitor um both of those people said no and apparently emmett sheer almost said no but then said yes which is kind of ironic because he's tweeted some very weird stuff recently like he said that uh he thinks the ceo job could easily get automated away except for a few key decisions which is maybe why he joined interesting yeah okay um meanwhile pretty much every single employee at open ai started retweeting sam's tweets with heart emojis which to me signals that they are basically saying like if you go start your own new company we're gonna come with you okay yeah it was almost every single employee so there was just heart emojis so they seem to like crazy sam being the ceo people seem to like sam being the ceo yeah yeah so that was the end of sunday okay monday i wake up i brush my teeth i open my phone 3 a.m it's announced that sam greg and others will be joining microsoft to lead a new advanced AI research division.

45:01This is all before the markets even open on Monday. Yeah. Cool. This all happened in like 48 hours. Yeah. Jeez. So, and then Satya effectively says, any other open AI employees that want to go to Microsoft can come too, which is hilarious. There were Microsoft employees that were tweeting like these memes out being like, I thought we didn't have headcount. and now 770 employees are going to come to microsoft this is also really funny just in the context of you probably can't acquire open ai but if they all leave at once and you hire all of them technically you didn't acquire them you didn't acquire them but that's that's pretty good for microsoft that would be yeah it's gonna it would be insane for microsoft they get the company for free they already have all the azure servers like they had already been already been working with them so closely that would probably be pretty easy for them to get back to normal right which seems great except it's not great that microsoft already a giant tech juggernaut would now just own effectively the biggest like an amoeba in the world like absorbing absorbs a whole bunch of people i got activision blizzard now i'm going for open ai now i'm coming for you yeah it was it was a whole situation um very crazy yeah like like we said like open ai was about to be valued at 87 billion dollars and microsoft just effectively got them for free which is insane that would be the biggest satya you dog you dog satya you dog yeah and after after satya said this the stock price went to the moon so at first it dipped when sam said he got fired and then satya was like we hired sam and it was like wow yeah sam almond moves markets 87 billion dollars but then a little bit later on monday ilia the board member that uh kind of fired sam tweeted out that he deeply regretted his participation in the board's actions and he's doing everything that he can to reunite the company which is crazy because a lot of people were speculating that he was the one that convinced the board to fire sam in the first place considering jeffrey hinton his like you know person that he under was the one that is the most worried about evil ai taking over and the biggest theory going around is that ilia was so concerned about the acceleration through corporate means that he didn't feel like the non-profit part of open ai which was supposed to be the main part of the company had any governance anymore and they just needed to replace him with someone who would slow down so it's insane that he's saying that he like i regret everything yeah come back sam yeah Yeah.

47:40So people don't hate me as much. Exactly. Yeah. So then in the morning on Monday, this letter comes out with 505 of OpenAI's roughly 770 employees saying that they will resign if Sam and Greg are not reinstated and the board is ousted. By 5 p.m., that number was up to 738 employees out of the 770. over 90 like eight percent and i would guess that the remaining like 30 employees were probably just on vacation that'd be my guess because if you're one of the few people that was like nah i'm staying on this sinking ship when it's 769 out of 70 and you're the last guy like oh it's me yeah oh you're dancing on the titanic that's wild yeah um but plot twist for the hbo drama that's about to come out in a couple of years from this uh ilia's name was also on this letter um okay that's just confusing that's just confusing what is so guy who fired sam says we demand sam back yeah so we okay all right we both demand sam back and we demand that i am fired and replaced we yeah so that's that's really committing to the i regret this yeah really committing hardcore committing to that wow but like you know isn't sam a microsoft employee now like didn't satya just say that he was gonna hire sam like about the statement and now everyone's saying come back and then last night monday night satya went on multiple interviews on like cnbc and on caris fisher's on podcast and they're all like like isn't sam and microsoft employee now and satya is just like whatever sam wants to do he could do it's totally up to him if he wants to come join us I'm cool with that.

49:24If he wants to go back to OpenAI, I'm cool with that. I'll support him no matter what. That sounds like we sent him something he hasn't signed yet, so I can't say he's employee yet. But come on, Sam. Yeah, he's fielding his options, clearly. For sure. But it's just insane that the CEO of Microsoft put out statements being like, they now work for us. We are starting a new experimental AI division. And that was just kind of a, I don't know, maybe. Maybe. It was literally just to save the stock. He's trying to secure the stock without having actually secured anything yet. Yeah. Now we're down to reports where Sam is apparently trying to go back to OpenAI.

50:03Today, Tuesday, as of this morning, they were apparently back in negotiations trying to get him back there. and the twitch ceo who was the who became the intern ceo the old twitch ceo became the intern ceo of open ai is now saying he's gonna resign if the board doesn't tell him what happened and why they fired sam which they didn't even tell him they didn't even tell sam no like i would hope that by now he knows but he i just it doesn't make any sense so as of 4 27 p.m eastern time tuesday november 21st yeah check twitter real quick let me just check twitter yeah you're probably right i think that's it make sure nothing has been posted we are up to date okay nothing has been posted so far so far that's where we're at um there were reports that they were trying to get anthropic to merge with them to take over the board and anthropic is open one of open ai's biggest competitors they make an ai called clod which is supposed to be like a much more friendly, much more aligned AI, and they have all these like guidelines and rules.

51:11It's a whole thing. There are two potential outcomes that happen. Either Sam comes back as CEO, the board gets completely replaced, and we are looking at a very, very different open AI, even with the nonprofit board that probably doesn't care as much about making sure that AI doesn't take over humanity. So that's where we're at currently. So either Sam goes back and we have a very different company or he doesn't go back and the entirety of OpenAI goes to Microsoft and the actual OpenAI turns into a pile of dust. Okay. If you had to make a prediction, which is such a silly thing to do because you're going to know before this even goes live, but what would you quickly think is actually going to happen?

51:56i think that the board is gonna cave because each individual member of the board like their reputation is on the line there's three of them that are making this decision because ilia caved and the entire company seems to disagree with the board the entire company disagrees with them and i don't think those three people are ever going to have a job anywhere ever again yeah fair if They allow that to happen. However, that apparently their original like idea of open AI was that they want the company to be able to fail in the event that they disagree with the direction it's going in because they want so badly for these this AGI model to not take over the world and destroy humanity or whatever that they're willing to like put the company up in smoke.

52:47and they have so far resisted so much that it's also an equal possibility that that just doesn't happen and then microsoft becomes like three times more powerful i think that he will go back to open ai personally and this will all be kind of a nothing burger except for the fact that the company is completely restructured and it's much more of a for-profit company um yeah what would your what would your prediction be i i feel like i agree uh just having that overwhelming whatever 700 plus out of 770 all seemed to send a pretty quick yeah obvious message that hey we we preferred the way it was when sam was running it yeah then it seems like they've made it very clear that that's what they want to do so i don't know it is weird i am it's a developing story yeah uh it is our summary up until this point.

53:41So at least as you now read further headlines, you know of this history. You can follow it. You know where we were in the moment on Tuesday. Fascinating stuff. These conversations with him returning to the company were supposed to happen today, Tuesday, Pacific time. So three hours before currently right now. So this could change within the next few hours. Perfect. And maybe we'll be able to add a little snippet in tomorrow if it's changed by then. But yeah. It's been very insane to watch happen in real time. Well, look at that. It's less than 24 hours later. Real quick. We said we'd be back if something happened.

54:19It's the next day. Something happened. Something happened. So real quick, just a quick add on to actually get to the point where we're going to just ship this episode. What happened since yesterday? OK, so yesterday we were speculating whether or not Sam was going to be reinstated, whether or not there's going to be a new board as of like 1 a.m. Eastern time last night. Sam is back we predicted correctly yes we did there is a new board we predicted correctly OpenAI put out a statement that said we have reached an agreement in principle yet again in principle whatever that means I think that just means we haven't signed anything yet but somebody said it on the phone so we're counting it yeah for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO with a new initial board of Brett Taylor, Larry Summers and Adam DeAngelo we are collaborating to figure out the details Thank you so much and your patience through this.

55:11Yeah, okay. So just to set the stage a little, Bright Taylor is the former CTO of Facebook, and he was a chairman of Twitter before the Musk acquisition. You mean Meta and X? Yes. Oh, my God. He was also the co-CEO of Salesforce until January of this year, aka Slack. Yeah. Yeah. Larry Summers is an economist and was the former treasury secretary for some reason. I'm not sure why he's on this board. Very strange. Anyway, the initial point of the board is going to grow it to grow it to nine people so that this kind of thing doesn't happen again. Microsoft wants to have a seat on the board and Sam also wants to be on the board, but they're not on the initial board.

55:54And Satya says he doesn't want any more surprises. Good statement. I would be very terrified of Satya just showing up at night and stabbing me. I don't want any more surprises. We don't want any more surprises now, do we? Yeah. Okay, I still have a couple questions from this, though, right? First of all, what happens to Ilya? Because he was on the board. He got kicked off the board, but he also flipped to support Sam. Is he still at the company? He signed that paper with the other 700 employees. Unsure. I keep doing research on this and I can't find anything. So maybe stuff will come out in the next day or so.

56:36That's still in the air as of recording. Yes. Yeah. But obviously the biggest question is what actually happened here, right? And there actually has been some reporting that gives some insight into what people think actually happened. Okay. There's this report from the New York Times that says that Sam and the board have been fighting for more than a year now. but it got a lot worse after chat gpt launched and everything got more commercialized apparently helen toner which even if you remember from earlier was that georgetown university person on the board she co-wrote a paper for georgetown that was very critical of open ai's approach to safety and praised anthropics approach to safety um sam reprimanded helen for this paper according to some emails that the that times got a hold of and he said i do not feel we're on the same page on the damage of this paper any amount of criticism from a board member carries a lot of weight he also apparently talked to a number of other higher-ups about potentially getting her removed from the board and ilia was apparently thinking about also wanting to remove her from the board and then i guess since then they all were like nah sam needs to get removed from a board so there was already some friction yeah so there also used to be three more members of the board but those positions never got filled um it just seems like a lot of small things that kind of led to a crazy weekend got it okay yeah well now we know now we know now we know what we know we don't know what we don't know but we know what we know so if you don't if you didn't know now you know but if you if we if we don't know then you also don't know so that's true unless you went on the internet yeah okay that's the end of the interjection hopefully hopefully else uh yeah this that's up until 3 10 p.m wednesday november 21st if things changed i'm sorry ship it all right believe it or not it's not the only thing that happened this week there are some other things that we're still going to talk about right after the break.

58:44So let's do trivia. Dua Lipa interviewed Tim Cook? She did. She did. They talked about Vision Pro. She seemed very impressed. For some reason. I knew you were hoping to know what Dua Lipa thought of Vision Pro. She got to try it? No. Oh, really? They just talked about it? Just talked about it. That's dumb. It's podcast, you know. Really? Wow. All right. Trivia. also more news that's broken while we're recording this podcast even Binance's CZ is pleading guilty doesn't really deserve a full news section because if you didn't see that coming I don't know what sort of news you're paying attention to but now trivia

59:34so continuing with our Sam Altman trivia this week Oh, no. Okay. While building his first app, Loot, Sam Altman reportedly worked so hard that he got what old-timey disease? Oh, I know this. That's crazy. You know this? Gangrene. B, scurvy. C, consumption. Or D, typhus. Okay. I have a guess. Okay. Why do you know that? I must have recently read this, I guess. Huh. Or, yeah. All right. Weird. We'll figure it out after the break. You will.

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1:01:46All right, we're back. Jumping into the final section, we've got a couple quick hits that somehow weren't the biggest news of the past six, seven days. Yeah. Just sort of got swept under the rug, but still kind of interesting. Might have been headliners in their own weeks. But an interesting one for me was the Polestar 2 quietly got a range bump for the 2024 model with a 655 kilometer range. That's over 400 miles of range. 406, 407. Didn't seem to make that many headlines. That's pretty, I know. Pretty good. 400 miles of range. I remember you posting the tweet about it from Polestar and I looked it up to try to find articles and there were only like two articles about it.

1:02:25Just a few. it was like a kind of a quiet news week so i kind of figured it would be more like isn't that fairly major because don't not that many uh evs have over 400 miles of range that's a really good point i think i can only name eqs lucid air i don't think the rivian with the max pack suit the long range model s long range model s claims it does oh yeah true and then yeah now pull star too what does the eqs have i think there's an eqs that just has around 415 or something like that uh lucid's way over 400 really yeah they're the gravity that we just saw is announced it's supposed to ship with 440 miles of range on their suv dang um except if you have too many kids in the back seat i'm sure if you load it up it's not gonna go 440 miles but you know that's it's cool to see i think rivian might have an honest 400 when they ship theirs with the with the range pack with the max pack yeah the big boy so yeah yeah the pole star add that to the list 400 plus my range that's awesome i feel like that's a pretty good number too that you want to hit they're achieving this with a bunch of small things that sort of add up to like a 10 boost in range like a slightly larger battery goes from 78 to 82 kilowatt hours okay it's a little bit of a refresh so it's a little more aerodynamic it's got the nose cone now so you add that stuff together and you end up with a more efficient drivetrain hidden this is not yet the one that's using the nacs charger right uh that happens in 2025 i think this well that's unclear the tweet doesn't tell me too much okay it just says the pullstar 2 the upgraded pullstar 2 will have a barrier breaking super long range ironically the photos they tweeted only show from the right side and the back but not where the charge port is yeah no info on that interesting okay i mean that's what i'm most interested in is i don't really want to get an ev until everything starts moving over to nacs anyway yeah that's that is a really good point i feel like in the age of recommending evs when you're really thinking about buying a car if you don't need one right now if you're thinking about getting an ev i would strongly suggest if you can wait one more year yeah every single ev that is going to get better they're all going to have the tesla charge port almost all of them now have made that promise that they're going to support NACS and they'll have way more chargers available to them as far as road tripping goes anyway if you're never going to road trip fine i guess it doesn't matter but that is a hashtag pro tip if you were thinking about getting an electric car anytime soon yeah pretty worth having yeah uh and then one more bit is uh we did get to the go to the f1 race this was sort of in the background of all of this uh me and a slice of the team we went out to las vegas for one of the races near the end of the formula one season did did you get to see the sphere we did get to see this sphere i know it's it's just as exciting as the race it is quite a large spherical building with screens on the outside it's pretty sick i first thing i noticed when i looked at it and uh ls can verify i was like i think that's 90 hertz oh really i think it's 90 hertz wow but it's hard to say like what is a 90 hertz thing at that scale like it's a huge it's an led wall basically like stitched together like i think animations moving across the sphere looked very smooth like they were 90 hertz but i don't know if they're refreshing at 90 we only want one thing and it's disgusting to see the la sphere it is oh vegas vegas vegas it is super interesting to see uh but yeah the f1 race was like uh it's a street race so part of the track was the las vegas strip yeah it was a very picturesque race it was at night too yeah but the one thing that's going to stick with me is just how much louder and more like visceral it is in person i was thinking broadcast because i saw all your instagram stories and you were just like this is so insane it's much more insane than through your phone and i was watching through my phone and i was like that doesn't seem that crazy yeah dude this is my pet peeve with with car videos online is none of them can actually give you the feeling of what the car sounds and feels like yeah i've seen a lot of really good videos of like miking up the car and it it just peaks every time you can't actually feel the vibrations the different the difference between like the sub bass like the super low rumbles versus like the sound of the pitch when you accelerate like none of that comes through on video the bass that is your chest cavity yeah yeah the uh the loudest video i've ever taken in my life is when all of those cars lined up for the beginning of the race 20 cars in a row all at once light turns green they all go i think it probably hit 115 decibels or something like that on my watch and it on my phone it just sounds like it just sounds like a normal like f1 car passing by it doesn't sound that crazy it was chest rattlingly loud so did you have to wear ear uh earplugs i should have air plugs i should look what apple's done to my vernacular i could have worn airpods pro maybe and like had this pro that'd be good through on or whatever yeah um no they gave us earplugs i didn't wear them i wanted to experience it yeah with all of my all of my being yeah uh i would have regretted it no it was awesome are you a fan now i honestly yeah the thing about going to a an f1 race in person is like this is a four mile track or whatever it is and you can't see most of the track most of the time you only get to post up at like one turn right or one straightaway yeah so what's happening was we were on this balcony and i was looking out at the straightaway which was right between the last turn and turn one but then anytime something interesting happened you'd hear like a crowd reaction or a gasp and i would turn around and look at the tv broadcast to find out what was happening because that's what everyone else was seeing and you turned back and i turned back and i'd see and i turned back around and i'd see what was happening on the screen so it was one of those How long is one lap?

1:08:18Literally 90 seconds. Whoa. Do you know how far, how many miles that is? So they're going, the entire race is 50 laps, 190 miles. That's, whoa. Okay. And it's 90 minutes long. Wow. 3.8 miles per lap. 3.8 miles per lap, 90 seconds. Wow. They are cruising. So when I first got there, we posted up at that like straightaway where they came around the bend and did turn one. and i was looking at the guys i was like how fast do you think they're going down there we were like maybe 110 i think they might be going 90 maybe 100 miles an hour around this turn think about 100 to 110 miles an hour around the curb no and then uh and then we turned around and looked at the broadcast and they have like the cameras on the cars and the live speed readouts yeah and they were going 175 miles an hour around the turn the first turn they're cruising they're going so fast that you see the cars moving and you think wow i always thought an f1 car was so much bigger than that that looks like a little itty bitty tiny car and then you see them stationary and you're like wow this is the biggest car i've ever seen this is like an suv sized vehicle dang like it it warps it with every single one of your senses i've never thought about them being big and the smell oh my god i love the smell the race fuel the fuel the tires there's just chemical in the air i love hot chemicals i love that hot tires everything dang yeah it is a much more every sense you have from the vibration to the smell to the to the visuals to the you can see the tires getting torn up in real time like as they go one set of tires last 20 laps and then they're like done oh my god torn up it's very it's really interesting i know a lot of people that were criticizing it for being in vegas saying it was just like a lot of spectacle and stuff but But when I think about when I was like a wee lad playing PlayStation 2, playing Gran Turismo 5, and a lot of the maps were like in Vegas on the Las Vegas strip.

1:10:20And I was like, yeah, that would never be a real track. And the fact that the photos that I saw from it were just like there's the Bellagio and like all of the big hotels. The sphere in the background. Which sometimes had a little emoji face on it, like watching the race as it went by. And then after the race, just to put the nail in the spectacle coffin, it was like fire. Like there was a coordinated fireworks show launched from the roof of every hotel in Vegas. It was literally like a citywide panoramic fireworks show. It was incredible. All these. It was. Vegas is like another universe. Yeah.

1:10:56Vegas at night, too. It's like 11, 12 midnight. It was it was very picturesque. Wow. It was super cool. That's crazy. so it was a pleasure to experience it we were also working the whole time putting together a video about f1 i'm gonna sort of i it'll probably be live around this episode but f1 explained is is i am very excited about this video i'm afraid to learn about f1 because after drive to survive came out it felt like every single person in my life it's sort of like soccer or or football as I'm gonna yell that in the comments but oh yeah it's like it's like whenever the world cup happens everyone who I thought just did not care about soccer suddenly is like knows every little thing about soccer and it felt the same way after drive to survive came out it's like everyone watched that documentary and now everyone that I know cannot stop talking about f1 there is definitely an element of that the world coming together for a cultural event my favorite part outside of that is how much what happens in f1 affects what happens outside of f1 so there's the obvious part which is like these are a bunch of engineers developing like the tiniest fraction of a second improvements on these cars and spending millions of dollars to figure out what works that stuff will eventually trickle down to the cars you and i get to drive which is super cool yeah even if it's just like a simple thing like it's like a research materials exactly yeah and it literally is like ferrari's out there racing cars around the track and then they figure out all the improvements over time to f1 have been one team sometimes one guy on one team goes i think if we put a wing on the front axle it would give us more downforce and that could let us turn faster and they'll do that on they'll do that on their car and they'll roll out their car and one of the cars will be mysteriously faster for some reason before all the other teams figure out what's going on and do their own version of it and that literally happens every year with some innovation on the car dang okay wait i have a dumb question potentially go for it is that why all the f1 cars kind of look the same yes because they've all like kind of fell on this one form factor it's a great work they are more towards a good observation if you yeah so if you scroll back far enough they all kind of look like simple tubes with wheels and as you fast forward over time you kind of watch them all morph to get flatter and more blade shaped and then they start to add the same features but if you're observant enough you can find archival footage where one of the cars has a front wing and none of the rest do and then the next season all of them have front wings and then one of the cars has this aero feature and then the next season because it worked really well all the rest do my favorite is when stuff doesn't work so in 2001 there is a verstappen car that had a huge front wing sticking off of the front which was like a stupid looking spoiler over the front axle and they rolled it out for a race and it just didn't work that great and we never saw it again dang oh my god why did they think that that would work because downforce on the front axle keeps the front tires planted better around turns yeah i know nothing about Yeah, it's a lot of physics stuff.

1:14:13I could see why they probably thought that would work. So the idea would be like, yeah, if we think of something. That looks so dumb. Sometimes it's inside the car and it's so secretive too. It's like when Apple does something secretive, it's because they don't want anyone else to copy them. When these cars, companies, these teams do something secretive, it's secretive until the moment it rolls out onto the track. And then if anyone sees it, it's out. Wow. There was a McLaren car that had a third brake pedal inside the car, and nobody knew what was going on until a photographer saw that on one side of the car during a corner, their brakes were hot, and they were, like, glowing.

1:14:49And they were like, that's kind of weird because the car is supposed to be accelerating out of this corner, but the brakes are still hot. What is going on? What? It's because this was a track that mostly turned left. And so they added a brake pedal in the McLaren that would break just the left side tires while they were turning. So you could accelerate a little while still breaking the inside wheels, which let you turn faster. It was insane. And no one could tell how they did it until they, someone, oh, I forgot the story, but someone figured out, like, there was a McLaren car got left out after a race.

1:15:20And some guy took a picture of the inside of it and saw an extra pedal and was like, we got to do that. You're making me interested in this. So, like, you can do whatever you want to your car, basically? There are rules. But, yeah, within the rules, you must, yeah. Dang. So it's more of an engineering competition. It is exactly what that is, yeah. God dang it. Yeah. That's super cool. I'm trying so hard to avoid this. So welcome to the cult, my friend. The last race is in Abu Dhabi this weekend. I'm sure you'll be watching along with the rest of us. Yeah, but the Vegas race was very cool in person.

1:15:52Cool. and that was like one of two races that happens in the u.s yeah like two or three i think austin and miami okay and i think this is the last one this year wow crazy cool all right well it's fascinating stuff hopefully that video goes out around this time yep watch it if you haven't already otherwise uh we know that dua lipa tried the vision pro wait did she i don't think i don't know sorry she interviewed tim cook she interviewed yeah they talked about she might have i bet you she tried it there's no way that tim cook came and was like what an incredible thing we've made and then didn't let dua lipa try it wouldn't that be insane no i disagree that would be the most tim cook thing yeah that's 100 something he would do yeah just be like yeah i will be in your podcast to talk about it really can't try it but they let me try it i'm sure i'm sure she could try it if she wanted to yeah i'm sure they would get her a briefing my thing is like if tim cook were to come on this podcast and he flies to new jersey and he he sits down in these chairs you think he's bringing a vision pro with him to let us try it no he would flex on us he'd be like i've been using vision pro for about a year now yeah and we'd be like yeah i know we know you know i never shown a photo of me wearing it ever yeah you'll never see me wearing it yeah for sure interesting okay well that was the totally nothing going on week in technology this week Thanks for tuning in.

1:17:13Thanks for tuning in. Hopefully, for the love of the sake of my eyeballs and my attention span, please do not do this again on Thursday night or Friday night. Or we'll have to do trivia. Yes. Yeah. I'm trying to keep you guys up to date with what's going on in technology. And when you do things on Thursdays and Fridays, we can't. It's tough. So, all right. We did our best. Let's get our trivia out of here. Trivia time.

1:17:42trivia i'm writing both my answers i'm writing them both quick update on the scores okay marquez with 13 andrew with 12 david with one this is so dumb carry the one 12 look i knew what my job was before this i also knew what like a camera stood for okay question one whenever one year before open ai was launched in 2015 for a total of eight days sam altman was the ceo of what popular social media company marquez already has his answers you already wrote it pencil down yeah okay cool david is there's only like two possible answers there's many social media companies but that have had leadership changes for eight days what's your what's your guess i'm curious flip him and read boys i'm gonna i'm gonna cover my butt you're correct it's reddit it is reddit correct both of you got it the only other option was twitter and that was not that long ago so dang dang i was hoping i'd slide ahead on this one he also instated steve huffman after him he did so which was uh another fun fun in fact yeah all right continuing the sam altman party bus train caboose uh airplane uh while building his first app yeah f1 car while building his first kind of uh while building his first app sam altman reportedly worked so hard he got what old-timey disease

1:19:26Marquez has already written his answer. David just put the pen down. Yeah, I did. Wait, I forgot. Sorry, I forgot I made multiple choice for this one. You did, you did. Do you need it? A, gangrene. Okay. B, scurvy. C, consumption. Or D, typhus. What is consumption? Consumption is an old-timey word for tuberculosis. It's like what they used to call tuberculosis. yeah scurvy scurvy both correct sam altman suffered from scurvy when you asked that question for some reason i just knew it but i don't remember reading it that's exactly how i felt really i don't know where i learned that wow in the depths why do we both know that did you just like whisper it to us one time he only didn't whisper i had scurvy once when was the last time you guys used chat gpt today i put marquez's f1 script in chat gpt and i asked if it was accurate damn what did it say it just said like here i can read you what it said actually yeah it's hilarious yeah i was gonna say that that's how he implanted somehow this knowledge into your brains but this story is i actually asked it for an f1 script and that's what it spit out so it should be good okay yeah i said is this is there anything incorrect in this script and then i just posted marquez's entire script and it said the script you provided appears to be a detailed and enthusiastic introduction to Formula One, likely intended for a video format.

1:20:50It covers a wide range of topics, including the sports history, technical aspects, rules, and personal experiences with the sport. Wow. Without specific content on the accuracy, requirements, or the intended audience, here are some general observations. One, it is very comprehensive. The script does an excellent job of covering various aspects, including the technical side, the history, rules, et cetera. Aw, chat. Chat. I like that. Sponsorship integration. The mention of, is smoothly integrated linking that linking their specific industry standard focus to f1's emphasis on safety and technology this kind of integration is effective for sponsored contents personal narration style the script is written in a personal and relatable style which is engaging for viewers it narrates personal experiences opinions and makes it more engaging than a straightforward factual presentation this is wild i know gpt it didn't answer your question at all no um but it's very nice to me the it has a eight of these uh these pillars and then at the end it says in summary the script is well constructed for an informative and engaging video on formula one especially for viewers who have a basic understanding of the sport and are interested in learning more the integration of personal experiences and the explanation of technical aspects are particularly strong points i'll take it i don't think any of us in the studio could have given Marquez a better compliment.

1:22:10Yeah. He's blushing right now. I'm blushing over here. It also says that you had very good engagement and pacing. It said, accuracy, without cross-referencing every fact. The script seems very accurate. Okay, good. Okay, perfect. You know what? Let's end it at that. That's perfect. That's all I need to hear. ChatGPT has officially endorsed this video, so go ahead and watch it when it comes out. Hopefully it's out soon. Hopefully it's not hallucinating. Yeah, hopefully it's totally right. Yeah. And, uh, that's an F1 car. anyway that'll be it for now hopefully no other news comes out thanks for watching catch you in the next one in the next one peace bye Waveform is produced by Adam Alina and Ellis Rubin we are partnered with Vox Media Podcast Network and our intro after amazing games by Bane Sill whoops hey that wasn't bad that wasn't that bad come on

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