Apple iPhone 15 Event: USB-C Everything!

30:41That's a nice camera. That's a bigger sensor. And there's a lot going on with the software. Oh, there's so much. There's a lot going on with the software. And this, I think I kind of missed it during the keynote. Yeah. But basically, it's kicking out 24 megapixel images by default now, not 12. So what we were doing before is we were getting quad pixel binning. So it was the 48 megapixel cameras, and all of them would give us the normal 12 megapixel shots. And we've seen that everywhere. Quad pixel binning is very common. What Apple's doing is not quite that. Actually, it is that and also more.

31:12So they're taking quad pixel binning 12 megapixel image, combining it with individual pixel 48 megapixel shot, merging them together to use some of the light information from the 12 megapixel and the detail information from the 48 megapixel to turn it into a detailed and bright 24 megapixel, sort of like a hybrid fusion photo file. And that's the default now. What's a picture? What's a photo? I'm realizing how important those animations in the keynote are because just watching you move your hands around is very confusing. It's a lot. It's a lot going on. And I kind of missed that at first. But not only are you getting a new sensor and a new image pipeline, but all of that is happening now by default.

31:57And, God, there's so much more software with the pros. But that's basically the new thing with the cameras. I liked the portrait mode stuff that they talked about. Yeah, that's a new thing. I think that was pretty cool. Yeah, next-gen portrait mode. It essentially is automatically capturing depth information, so you don't have to turn on portrait mode. It's interesting. If there is a person, a cat, or a dog in the picture, it will automatically capture all the depth information. Because it recognizes the subject. Yeah. If there's not, it won't unless you tap on something. If you tap, it captures depth information.

32:25So I think it doesn't want to unnecessarily capture that information, but it assumes that when you take pictures of people, cats, or dogs, you would like it. Yeah. So you can change the focus at any point. That I thought was cool how you can change focus between subjects like as well and change the bokeh on that. This is an interesting thing because we sort of hit this state at one point where you had to make portrait mode because all phones were like the equivalent of F32. But now we're getting these bigger sensors with these like more wide open apertures. So you kind of have this combination now, but now you can sort of take part of that computational photography that was useful before and not really anymore and bring it into the like modern smartphone cameras.

33:05And now it's just fun. It's like an enhancement. It's like an enhancement now. Yeah. Instead of a necessity. It's good. I'm going to have to test it. We're going to have to try this stuff out. I mean, I think it'll be good. I also want to mess with the computational, the AI so bad. Like it says, they said dogs, cats, and people. Yeah. So if I get like a raccoon, we're going to get a studio raccoon. Or like a ferret, like something floats. What about like a reptile, you know? I think it would still trigger. Yeah. A reptile might be kind of far. I think it's only. I think it's furry faces. Only cats, dogs, and people.

33:37But like, how do you know it's a cat or a dog? It's the same thing as Google Photos. It like can recognize what something is. But Google Photos isn't 100 % accurate. No, that's true. I'll get like. That's true. I bet if I search my photos for dogs. Is this going to be a video? I think it'll be fun to just see how far. Just go to the zoo. I only can see what. It'll still work fine. I mean, you tap to focus on a ferret, it'll work. But like, if I just point it at the ferret, will it go, oh, it's a cat? I want to know. I don't know. I just, I want to figure it out. A cardboard shin. You think that would work?

34:03That'll work. I bet that works. That'll work. That cutout will be perfect on it. I do think we should go to the zoo. I think this is a good video. That would be a great studio video. A tiger is a cat, but like is that kind of... Anyway. Good point. These are all very important questions that need to be answered in the full review, so that's why that's coming later. Really makes you think. But yeah, that's a bunch of stuff. I mean, these are relatively important things, but that's not the most important thing about the new iPhone, is it? Oh, right. USB. I forgot. the entire reason i'm upgrading huge thing i forgot about that it's got a it's got a usbc port now the iphone it was kind of funny looking at the iphone and seeing that usb port no matter how many times i look at it it's kind of still processing yeah but it's real i haven't plugged in a usbc port to one of the new ones yet but i think when i will that's when it'll hit that's probably what that's when i'm gonna be like it's real my life when i have one cable we've done it Which, by the way, it's...

34:57We did it. Society if. It's not the same. But one cable, yeah, one cable for the Mac, for the iPad, for... There's still other stuff, by the way, that needs to get upgraded, but the new AirPods case is USB-C, so there's AirPods Pro case there. Your friend's Android phone, whatever. Your laptop, what Surface laptop you use, like everything. Yeah. One cable. Yeah. How sweet is that. Convenient, yeah. Thank you, Europe. Oh, and here's another... I think it's more important for us Android users is I can help my friends with iPhones charge now. You know how many times people come over and they're like, do you have a charger?

35:30I'm like, yeah. Whoops, it's not that. Sorry. Claire and I both use an Android so we're like that weird house that doesn't. Or you're like an Uber and you're like, do you have a car charger? And they're like, yeah. And they hand it to you and it's a lightning cable. That happens a lot to me. I got offered the aux cable in an Uber once. I can still use that. Just saying. Oh, what? Yeah. Yeah, because you can do. He said, do you want the aux? And I think for iPhone users, like whatever, plug it in. Wow. Were you here in San Francisco? when that happened. I think that was in New York Uber. Oh, that's interesting.

35:56Yeah, that's weird. Wait, one fa... Oh. Are we gonna say the same thing? You better now if you don't. Power out. We are the same person. Okay. There's a fascinating new feature. No, you go first. So there is no reverse wireless charging, but there is now, through that USB port, reverse wired charging. Yeah. So you know you're gonna get that C2C cable in the box. you can plug in your airpods from the iphone and it will charge up the the airpods battery from the iphone battery yeah which is kind of cool but even cooler yes you're probably wondering oh you are what happens if i plug in my friend's iphone to my iphone do you want to guess me yeah nothing there's a there's a correct answer here and there's actually two answers it sounds like there's not a correct answer if there's two answers well there are two different scenarios One is you plug in your friend's lightning iPhone with a USB-C to lightning cable, in which case every single time the USB-C iPhone will charge the lightning iPhone.

37:00I can see why. No matter what the battery state is. I say that because if you plug in a USB-C iPhone into another USB-C iPhone, there is a special handshake where the phones talk to each other and they go, how much battery do you have? and the other one goes, how much battery do you have? And the one with more battery will charge the one with less battery. This is so chaotic, I love it. I want to take this where one is at 50 and one is at 51. That's a great question. And then it's just gonna turn into where you call two pizza delivery people. They don't, they don't. Whichever one has it at the beginning.

37:35So you'll, the funny, I wanna see a phone that's at 52 and a phone that's at 50 and it just pushes all the power into the other phone. One will end up at 100 and the other will end up at one or whatever. Imagine trying to explain this to your mom. I think that's still going to work. You just plug your phone into the other phone. No, but what if it goes in the other direction? Or what if they have a lightning phone? Well, you would never do it if you had more battery than your friend. Now I'm going to just plug it in with my friend's phone. I think this is fairly fail safe. I think it's good. I think it's like I have 2 % right now.

38:03If you plug in your phone into mine, can I get some of your battery? And you plug it in and it works, you're like, damn. That's pretty cool. That's pretty solid. That's pretty cool. Then they plug in Andrew's Zen phone and it explodes. I don't know what happens if you plug in other non-handshake phones it pulls up the Apple store on my phone it just says straight yeah by your mom and iPhone so yeah that's iPhone 15 wait so the the cool thing about that we were talking to one of the guys during the briefing and he was like yeah I usually just like bringing one brick to an event so I bring a brick that is a MagSafe charger magsafe charges my phone and i put a usb-c cable in the phone and charge like my airpods with that right and therefore then you can charge everything you're like wired chaining yeah which is the same thing people with reverse wireless charging were doing they were just plugging in their phone turning it over on its face and then putting the wireless charger earbuds on the back but like this is wired so it's yeah four and a half watts oh and fun thing we learned is that you could charge things with lightning through the iPhone before?

39:10I think so, yeah. But it was 1.5 watts, and they moved it to 4.5. Right. Cool. So there you go. Four and a half watts to charge AirPods. Can I have something irrelevant but happened during the announcement for the iPhone? Sure. I think my favorite transition of their event was during that, and it was right after, which also they showed voice isolation for phone calls, I think was kind of cool. But right after that, she's like, Of course they have apples here. And there's this box of apples, and it zooms into the Rode logo, like, on the apples, and then goes into this, like, Rode, and then he steps out onto the Rode.

39:44Did you catch the music at the same time? I didn't. The music was, you know, the marimba, like, do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. You know that, like, classic iPhone? The bump-bump-ba-na-na. No, it's a... Oh. The classic iPhone ringtone. Oh, yeah. It was... That, but slowed down. During that transition. I didn't know. It was a great transition. It was a great transition. I think that transition and way back into the, there was one where it went into somebody's watch into like the Apple fitness room to talk about Siri plus health and like zoomed into the watch and then was then inside. It was really cool.

40:18Apple and the transitions. And they brought drones back again. They did. I feel like they didn't do drones at Dub Dub. It was all like visual, like color animations. And this was, we were back. Yeah, I had a moment where I was watching the event because it was like Tim Cook came out, said good morning five times, peaced out. And then we got like the event on the stage. and I had a moment where I was like, do I want events back where it's just like a dude on a stage giving us a live demo? Because that's a different vibe and it's much slower. But as a person getting entertained, I still really enjoy the cinematic transitions and the fun.

40:50It's just so much harder to write fast as it's happening. It is what it is. I think they're both good. Do you want to do price? Oh yeah, sorry. Same price. Same price. $799 and$899 for iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus. They also mentioned something at the end. It was like$800 off if you trade in an iPhone 11 or newer. That was to certain carriers. To certain carriers. But your deals are insane. That sounds like a wild deal. Yeah. But then you get locked into a contract, which is the other part of that deal. To your contract or whatever. Yeah. I don't know. Boost mobile, baby. I'll give you$800 off your phone, but then you'll be paying a lot.

41:24You'll be paying me for the next two years. Exactly. Just get Pixel Pass. Oh, isn't there also a... Deep cut. There's one more feature. Roadside assistance via satellite. Oh, nice. So your leg didn't fall off, but you still need roadside assistance, and you're in a no-service area. You can get roadside assistance. AAA, yeah. Instead of being like 911. Yeah. That's super. Just knowing you have that is huge. You know what's crazy? They played the sob story video of three different people who got lost in the Andes and almost froze to death. And I was like, man, as soon as they launched that satellite feature, was that last year?

42:03Yeah. They were immediately probably just having people going around being like, have you used this yet? They're shooting people into the mountains. Did someone use this? Yeah. Because they had like three or four people who were like, I would have died. I think the stories kind of just get out there. Like if it happens to you, you just like tweet about it. Like there's an article in the paper. Like people just find that stuff. Oh, you know what though? They have all the information of everyone that's ever used it. That's also true. So they could save somebody and then be like, can we use you in the commercial?

42:30You use the button and you get a letter in the mail, like, did it work? They're like, well, you did just save my life, so I guess. Did it work? And do you want to be in a video? Yeah. All right, iPhone 15 Pros. We have two new phones. And again, iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max. They are the same screen sizes, but the first kind of notable interesting thing is the bodies are a little bit smaller and the bezels are a little bit trimmer. So they're a little bit smaller in the hand. Thanks, man. I've been working out. Yeah. That's true. But also, actually, I'll start with titanium. Titanium. They're titanium now.

43:03Is what I felt like about it. So titanium is both stronger and lighter than stainless steel. I only care about one of those things. It's lighter in the hand. That's really nice to me. I don't think the stronger is going to matter. And my only reason is because my anecdotal evidence of I've dropped my iPhone on the stainless steel rails before. It just gets dented and it's totally fine. that's not the part that breaks. Exactly. It's the glass that breaks. Whenever I see stuff like this it's like it's the glass that's breaking that I care the most about. And it's the same glass as last year as far as we can tell.

43:32It's ceramic shield and all that but it's not like you have like thicker like bumpers around the corners or anything. It's like alright titanium is lighter and that's better. Well and apparently titanium scratches easier and that's why they did the brushed look. I like the brush look better though. That's better than polished anyways. I agree because it gets less fingerprints. I think it just looks but yeah fingerprints and it's shiny this just like will always kind of look the same which i think is way better and brushed metal looks sweet i think yeah definitely so that's that it's also got a bro is this you didn't say it's space titanium oh yeah oh sorry okay the same titanium they really ripped apart the mars rover to build these phones they said it's a class five titanium alloy grade five grade five grade five sorry great of course how could i forget great fifth grade grade five five fifth grade titanium alloy 5g aerospace grade it's in the mars rover I don't know where, but it's in there somewhere.

44:24So take that for what you want. They ended the space shuttle so they could build iPhone 15 Pro. Had to use the metal, bro. They mined it. We recycled the space shuttle. There's a new set of cameras. We'll talk in depth about the cameras, but there's also an A17 Pro chip, which is a three nanometer chip. It's the first time they've used the word pro in a chip, which leads me to believe they're going to keep doing that. That is interesting, though. Yeah. Because you know how they put the A16 Bionic in the regular one this year? That means next year the iPhone 16 regular will have a new chip called the A17.

44:56They've given themselves the window to completely reuse the A16 Bionic again or to make an A17 Bionic that is a step below what the A17 Pro is now. That will probably be all the ones that got binned because they didn't meet the threshold for what they wanted. Yeah, one less GPU core. It might happen. I'm not making a prediction now, but I'm just saying. They gave themselves that window. Yeah, I can see it. But it is a very, very impressive. I mean, it's a three nanometer chip. We haven't seen that anywhere else yet. Allegedly, pretty big performance increases and also efficiency increases. I hope it's a better battery life.

45:34I mean, I'm always hoping for better battery life, but there's no faster charging, so I'm just hoping for better battery all the time. That A17 Pro chip also has a USB 3 controller on it, which means, if you're paying attention, that the other chip does not. So the Pro iPhones will have faster wired data transfer speeds, 10 gigabits per second, huge upgrade over USB 2. And the non-Pro iPhones will have the same USB 2.0 speeds that Lightning did. 480 megabits. 480 megabits per second, not fast at all. And I said this in the impressions video, like most people probably don't care. Like how much do you plug your phone in for real?

46:13Like do you really transfer that much data? it's going to matter for the pro phones because people are going to shoot a lot more big files pro res video being the one that i interface with the most and i cannot wait to not have to wait 45 minutes to import 15 minutes of video every time we do not i feel like the thing that takes the longest in autofocus is transferring the footage over like you are so efficient with those you get them out before i even know you start i think most of it is you waiting they literally take longer to if you broke down the pie chart of how long it takes it's like an hour to shoot, an hour to import, and an hour to edit.

46:50Yeah. It might be more than an hour to import sometimes. It's crazy. Yeah. So I'm happy about that. It's not Thunderbolt. I kind of wish they went all the way and gave us Thunderbolt like 20, 30, 40 gigabits per second. Maybe they'll do that in another future version, but. Yeah. I could see them waiting to push that later to make it like we went all the way. Big update. Thunderbolt 3, baby. Yeah. I mean, it's still very capable. Like you can now do like capture one sessions on the iPhone. I would never do this, but you could literally have like your iPhone plugged into a monitor with capture one running and just like do a live photo shoot with a hundred megabyte files flying back and forth.

47:23Can you imagine you're like, I'm a professional photographer. I'm using, I'm having a bunch of people in my studio and I'm using my, you can go straight to a hard drive. That's true. Yes. Yes. I think also enables 4k 60 pro res. Oh yeah. Yeah. You need it. If you're hooked up to the hard drives. I know you love 60 FPS. Well, what I do love is if I use a much faster drive, I want to try this, like a Thunderbolt drive, plug it in, shoot ProRes directly to that from the iPhone, unplug, plug into my computer, two-minute import. I think that'll be faster than just going straight in. I think it will be faster.

47:58Okay, I'm going to try that. Stay tuned to autofocus, see if I do that. Nice plug. Yeah. Yeah, the port? The port? I'm pretty good at this. Nice plug. Yeah. All right. I think the camera is the last. I just got that. Big. No, well, there's also action. There's action. But we also haven't talked about the colors that just, you know, well, they're not. We haven't even talked about ray tracing. Okay. So we've got a bucket of things. Ray tracing, action button, cameras. Which one are we going to do first? Ray tracing. Just because it's the quickest. Okay. You can do four times faster. There's ray tracing.

48:30All right. So the cameras. Please explain this. I'm so confused. So a guy named Ray. He. Okay. So a lot of Android phones. Yeah. Are you. Oh, I thought we were talking about the cameras. Yeah. Oh, no. He was joking. Yeah. It was a pretty bad joke. What? I'm just saying. Wow. Okay. Well, you're doing it. So just explain Ray Tracing. Tell us the story of Raymond Trace. Yeah. Raymond Trace. Many years ago in 2018 or so, NVIDIA created this thing called Ray Tracing. This is the worst bedtime story I've ever heard. It's to put you to sleep. That's the point. So generally in video games they have to like guess where the lighting is supposed to be using this like these like fake lights that don't actually emulate real light rays because doing that math with a bazillion photons is really really hard.

49:19So Nvidia created this thing called ray tracing which effectively has accelerated cores to do specifically how real light bounces off of objects. People memed this for a very long time because they had this like RTX on. on TX off thing. Yeah. And they charged a lot more for the cards and a lot of people would probably be like, this is not that big of a deal. I think it depends on what games you're playing. There's some where it like. They have it in Minecraft now. I didn't know they actually had it. Yeah, there's a lot of games where it looks a lot better. There's a lot of games where you're like, okay.

49:55And it enabled like way more in terms of like glass reflections and light reflections and stuff like that. But I think you have to be playing those like like super crazy, like Spider-Man game on the PS5. Ultra Res, and like you'd swing by a window and like see a reflection. It could do that way better than it can now, which it wouldn't, but yes, it's on the iPhone now. I think in the future when video games are even more immersive, that kind of tech will be important, so it's good they're implementing it now. But I think Snapdragon chips started implementing that like four years ago. So it coming now is fun.

50:24I think it was already enabled, it's just four times faster on the A17 Pro. Yeah, yeah. They showed us a demo that they made specifically for the Pro, and it ran at 30 FPS, whereas the - It would have run at like six or seven. Six or seven FPS. Yeah. The cool thing, though, regarding ray tracing is there's this whole conversation about Apple and gaming, and they were able to get a bunch of major studios to port full-fledged games to the iPhone 7 to 15 Pro. Oh, yeah, like Resident Evil 4 is coming, right? Resident Evil 4 and Assassin's Creed something one of them as a non-gamer do you care? I don't have an iPhone but would you want one now?

51:10not really there was a point where they said which previously was only able on consoles, PCs, and Mac and I just thought that was funny that they mentioned it was on PCs before Mac that was funny I thought that was silly. Yeah. I like how ray tracing was the easier thing to explain out of the three options we had. And here we are still. Yeah. It is funny that Apple's leaning into gaming and not, they did this at WWDC with like, they're trying to make it easier to game on Macs with that metal toolkit thing. And now you can just play full fledged console games on your phone, which is like, I don't know if people are gonna do that, but I know in other markets like Asia, like in China, China's like something crazy, like 20 % of Apple's revenue comes from China or something.

51:53People play games on their phone. Mobile gaming there is huge. So if they can get more people to buy iPhones because of that, they're going to up their revenue like crazy. You got games on your phone? No. You have no idea. All right, cameras. Hey, you got games on that thing? I actually think I'm going to just jump in just real quick to the action button. I think that's a pretty quick one. It is a new button in the same exact spot where the mute switch was on the Pro iPhones. And it is a customizable button. And I actually really like it because it's really customizable. It's not to the full extent that, what was that button on, was it a - The Google Assistant button?

52:27The Bixby button? No, there was a couple, I mean, I think it was an Asus phone that let me just literally do whatever I want. Yeah, Zenfone 6 or something? Yeah, it's not full on Zenfone, but there is a nice little UI on the iPhone that lets you choose what you want it to do. You can hold it down and it by default will still be your mute switch. Or if you want, it can be a bunch of other stuff. It can be a focus mode changer. It'll go to a specific focus mode every time you press, or it can be a magnifier or it can open the Voice Notes app. It can open a camera. Flashlight, yeah. Flashlight. I love the Voice Notes app, by the way.

53:00Yeah, I think a lot of people will find that useful. I will probably do camera because that's what I do on every other phone. But the most interesting one is at the very end of the list is a Siri shortcuts list. And so you can basically have that launch whatever app you want. If you have a routine you want it to run, open an app and do a certain task, start a new task, start a new calendar event, whatever. You can do that. It might be a little delay. I want to see about that. I'll try in the review, but it's there. And it'll change based on your focus mode. Exactly. Which is amazing. Oh, I did not know that.

53:26Yeah, so if you're in the, like, I have a morning focus mode, press it, it starts your coffee maker. And then you go to work, press it, it starts your coffee maker at work. Nice. You can see what David does on his Siri shortcuts. Marcus, I have a question about it. Yeah. So you hold it, and then it functions the same as the silent slider. There's no normal time. Does it have a really nice haptic, like, yeah. because the animation kind of implied that, but I haven't gotten to hold it. Great sound effect. Thank you, I'll do it again. Yeah, I was surprised that it's a normal button. I thought it was gonna be like the MacBook track pad.

53:59I feel like I'm kind of loading up to that, but they're not quite ready for it yet. There are nice haptics behind the button. If you just touch the button, it will do the little haptics and show you what mode you're currently in. And if you long hold, I'm forgetting the haptic pattern. It might be the same, it might not be, but that's when you get the real heavy haptics and it's like, I'm switching. And I think Dynamic Island references what it's changing as well, too. There's a nice little animation to show what's - They also mapped the haptic pattern you get when you change into silent mode with the mute switch to feel exactly the same when you hold that so that you can do it in your pocket just like you do with the mute switch.

54:35And then when it is silenced, I believe, it will show a little silence icon in the top left corner. Yeah, there's a new indicator. Yeah. Okay. Even in the always on display mode. because they want to basically make it so you're not losing anything from the mute switch. So you're always knowing what kind of mode it's in. Yeah. Which is kind of cool. The only thing I'm missing from the mute switch is the little hint of color. Yeah, the orange. Yeah. Yeah. We were hoping it was going to be accent. Accent color, man. Yeah. And do you know what makes me mad is it has a really nice animation screen for when you're switching things and it shows all of them in different colors.

55:09I was like, you're just showing me how nice this would have looked. I think if it had an accent color. How it could look. If I had one. But there is a bunch of camera stuff per usual with the Pro iPhone. And I'm very interested in a lot of how well some of this will work. So first of all, new camera system, new larger 48 megapixel main sensor. It is also doing the same 24 megapixel kick out of the files by default. Yeah. Cool. Great. I think the ultra wide is a little bigger too. There's a couple other modes, a new photonic engine and nighttime portrait mode shots. and there's a bunch of other stuff enabled.

55:44Here's what I was most curious by. And when I first saw this, I was like, I don't understand this at all. But now it's way more interesting. There's a 1X button and a 2X button. And you already know what the 2X button does, right? It crops into the middle 12 megapixels. Then there's the 3X button, or in this case with the new 15 Pro Max, a 5X button, which goes all the way into the furthest telephoto lens. but they now also have if you press the 1x button again it will zoom in to 1.2x and if you press it again it'll zoom in to 1.5x and i was like okay is there some world where people shoot 1.5x photos so often that they want to preset for it about the focal length yeah i think it's about it really is okay so and this is my first impression is like david is about to flip this chair i don't understand like what just crop your photo later like i don't get it it's totally fine to just shoot at 1x and then crop later it's not but it isn't what's happening it isn't actually a digital crop so this is the correction so what's actually happening is apple is doing this same like processing that they're doing where you know how we're getting a 24 megapixel shot on the full 48 megapixel frame they're doing that same 24 megapixel output at the 1x and again natively at 1.2x and again natively at 1.5x and that's because people really like the focal lengths of 28 millimeters and is it 24 28 and 35 millimeters which is 1.5x yeah so yeah if you like the focal length look of 35 millimeters over 24 you'll hit that button you'll get to 1.5x and it will not be a digital crop it will be still full quality 24 megapixel shot with all the resolution that you would have gotten at 1x anyway yeah so that's pretty cool yeah you can even set your default 1x button to be 1.5x if you want it's in the settings you can just do 1.5x every time yeah so that's fascinating to me I don't know how well it's going to actually work I really want to test it also like the 15 Pro does 3x telephoto the 15 Pro Max does 5x telephoto how do they handle that gap between 3x and 5x on the two phones we'll have to see is it worse on the Pro will a 4x shot be worse on the Pro Max probably I feel like most people use 3x more than they use 5x so it's interesting that they're doing the tetra prism yeah a 3x shot will look worse on the pro max because it doesn't have a 3x lens you'll be digitally zooming in yeah so something to think about but there's a lot of new camera stuff i thought it was funny too and i now we can see where it came from there was that rumor that um the pro and pro max might get a periscope a periscope lens but now we can just see that they saw a 3x and a 5x thought it was a periscope lens since still three cameras except they're just two different lenses.

58:45Well, the Max is a periscope lens. Is it? Yeah. It'd be similar to a periscope. I thought it was not quite. A periscope lens and a tetraprism are effectively the same thing. Almost. So a periscope lens faces 90 degrees into the side of the phone and then reflects light once to get out. Yeah. This tetraprism lens is still facing the same way, but they've compressed the lens into this sort of like multiple reflections and then still facing the same way. The 45 degree bouncing thing. Not that it matters to the end user, but they have this three axis sensor shift stabilization and it's still facing the same way.

59:17So that's kind of cool. Damn, Mark has just, well, actually, David. I'm pretty sure I was still wrong in the process anyways. This is semantics, all right? It doesn't actually matter. But that's something to note why they're naming it something different, I guess. Tetraprism. Tetraprism, cool. I think they just use those big words to make people think it's more advanced than it actually is. I think it's more prisms than a normal periscope lens. So maybe you might as well flex it if you're Apple, I guess. Flex it if you got it. Flex it if you got it. Why not? yeah um faster lightning or faster usbc we did that same charging speeds oh with the cameras though with the cameras now that they have log recording yeah uh you could theoretically mix it in with other footage and apple is apparently i asked them about this they're apparently providing a log transformation to rec 709 which is cool yeah because uh hdr as well yeah and an hdr version of that which is really awesome they said to developers which is interesting so i feel like you might have to have a developer account to get it which is kind of weird well that should not mark i just broke if as a user i can shoot log as a user i should but then you have to pay a hundred dollars that would be insane i'm not sure on that yeah someone's gonna sell the let for a dollar on the app store it's gonna happen yeah anyway but yeah you can shoot log if you want um oh yeah spatial video yes yes so now so with vision pro yeah we had that meme we did the Dad had the Vision Pro on and was pushing his face into the daughter's face and her friends, and they're like, what are you doing?

1:00:42He was recording spatial audio on the headset. Yeah. Spatial video. So you can only do spatial video on the Pro because the non-Pro, the cameras are like at a 45 degree angle of each other, but to do parallax video, you have to have them in the same axis. So the way that the camera is set up in the Pros is like main camera top, wide camera below, telephoto on the right. So it uses the wide camera and the main camera and just does parallax and that creates the 3D spatial video effect. So you can watch that back. Which is so much more natural. Like, I actually think the spatial video thing is kind of cool now.

1:01:22Because you can actually do it in different places without having to take the pro and strap it to your face and take video of it, which is crazy. People already take videos of their daughter's birthday party. They take special video and then they can send it to the grandma who's wearing a Vision Pro at her apartment. That's depressing. I will forever be intrigued by the decision, though, to shoot that precious moment as spatial video. I guess the question is, what is the video? Like, you can only view it in that? I think so. Because it is just taking it from two cameras. I assume maybe it can record from both.

1:01:56Is it taking the full quality from both? I think so. I bet it would. I think it has the amount of pipelines. I do not know this for sure, but I can assume it's shooting from both cameras. It would be nice if it was live photos. But you can do it straight to a hard drive now, so you're good. You know how live photos, you never select live photos. It just always does in the background. It would be cool if you selected spatial video, and it also kicked out a regular video that you get, and then it's like, this also has spatial capabilities baked in. I know that you can't shoot 4K 120 on the phone because it doesn't process fast enough, and I just think if you can't shoot 4K 60 twice, then you can't shoot spatial 4K 60.

1:02:36Unless you have two ISPs, which it has, right? Well, you can't shoot 4K 120 now. Right. So whatever the max ability of the phone is right now, we'll say is 4K 60. But usually it's not like multiplicative. Like if you have two separate ISPs, those don't always merge together to be able to do like 4K 120. Oh. Yeah. Well, then we should be able to do 4K 120. I think the reason we can't do 4K 120 is because we've maxed out the ISPs we have on the phone. Probably true, yeah. So if you want to shoot 4K 60 spatial video, you won't have enough computing power to do it because that's too 4K 60, which is basically 4K 120, and we don't have the processing power.

1:03:164K 30, maybe. So you can do 4K 30. It won't be necessarily the max quality. I lost you guys so long ago. Well, it's interesting, because you think about it from Apple's perspective, and it's like they probably want everything you watch on Vision Pro to be as high frame rate as possible to make sure you don't get dizzy. So I feel like they want you to shoot 4K 60. Yeah, that's like a 90 hertz something, like 90 hertz screen. Yeah. I don't know. We'll see. You can buy 12 terabytes of iCloud storage. That's true. All right. People actually cheered. Yeah, that was the loudest cheer. It was. I want to know if the family plan will be updated.

1:03:50Of course you do. I thought they did mention that it was. I have a family plan on every single platform. Shh, they're listening. With my family. With your family. Yes. I don't have a family. David, no. Anyway, because I share that two terabytes of iCloud storage with my family, and it would be really nice if I could use 12. True. Yeah. I want to see what the pricing is, because they immediately talked. they immediately after they said we now have up to 12 terabytes they were like so family plan members can have even more storage together and i was like how much is that going to cost me though because i really want more i'm sure yeah probably more they also mentioned i mean last thing we'll talk about on this i think is um price yeah i really liked how they said same price 999 for pro and the max is the same price as the 256 gigabyte model last time they had to explain that That's so hard when JAWS was like, so technically it's the same price.

1:04:56Also matches last year's price with this level of storage. Yeah. Which like NAND chips are like$6. Okay. So just for those listening, the iPhone 15 Pro is the same price as the iPhone 14 Pro,$999. Yeah. The iPhone 15 Pro Max starts$100 more than the 14 Pro Max did. It's$1 ,199. But it also starts at 256 gigs of storage instead of 128. So the 256 gig phone last year was also$1 ,199. you just don't have the ability to do 128. Right. So technically, it's the same price. They're upping their base margins by$100 a unit. Well played. So interesting. Yeah. Well played. Also, did you see the website updated that the$20 Apple polishing cloth is now compatible with the titanium iPhone?

1:05:41Wait, actually? Yeah. They updated the polishing cloth compatibility chart. Yeah. Someone's in charge. What else are you going to clean it up? Absolutely, dude. Someone gets paid$300 ,000 a year to do that. That's incredible. Somebody hit enter on that, and they were like, yeah, I knew this was coming. This is my job. Real quick, I know we got to kind of move this, but we didn't talk about colors. What's your favorite color of Pro? Raw. Interesting question. Raw. I think that's proof of how good the raw titanium is because the black titanium is very feels like your phone, and you still like the raw titanium.

1:06:13It's true. It looks so good. There is a matte black phone. I changed my opinion. I think fingerprints will make that a little tough. Yeah. There is also a new blue. It's slightly blue, but it's dark blue. It's bad. It's not as blue. Pacific blue is better. I think we all agree there's better blues. But then there's white and raw. And this raw titanium is kind of like this warmer, more natural looking titanium color. I like that. It looks really good. It kind of reminds me of this. Yeah. Apple Watch titanium. That's why I should have an orange accent button. I wish they brought gold titanium, which is a different mixture technically, but it has like this really nice gold sheen in it and my Fujifilm TX1 is gold titanium.

1:06:50Raw gold titanium. I want my phone from 2023 to match my camera from 1990. What were they thinking? Yeah, come on guys. You should have been thinking 50 years in the past. All right. I think that's everything with iPhone Pro stuff. Maybe? Question mark? Yeah, I think it is. I guess. But we still want to talk a little bit more about it. one more thing that we'll get to after the break. But before we get to the break, let's do one more trivia question.

1:07:22Were you paying attention? That's right. I knew it. It's more were you paying attention? I was. I'm so ready for this. The show game game show where we test your attention span. All right. Oh, no. While showing off the new A16 chip. Excuse me. Sip? A16 sip? A17. S9 sip? You were wrong on both ends there. I think. Well, it was the A17 is the new one and the SIP is the one. So far, I was not paying attention. I guess not. But I do know this. 16 core neural engine. Yep. They were showing it off. Okay, so the A17 Pro is what you're talking about. No, this was on the 15. A16 Bionic. Okay, now I'm lost.

1:08:02A17. This is on the non-Pro 15. A16 Bionic. A16 Bionic. Okay, yeah, I got you. It's just not new. It's not new. That's not even the question. this is ridiculous right now yeah we were paid i think we all right all right apple showed an example of a live voicemail transcription what was the subject of the voicemail i don't even remember that a picking up a child from soccer practice b confirming a dinner reservation for later that evening c lobsters or d all of the above this is a voice memo it was a live voicemail transcription oh oh interesting cool wow i feel like d is the um it's the one that we're supposed to pick but it's gonna be wrong i i swear i was paying attention i don't know the answer to this I feel like I'd remember lobsters.

1:09:03I was probably taking notes. Here's the thing about watching a keynote and taking notes. When something important is happening, I'm paying attention. And then the second something not important is happening, I'm writing down what was important. Or tweeting. Until the next important thing. Yeah. And then I'm writing that down until the next important thing. So this strikes me as something while I was writing. Yeah. I was also tweeting from the studio account. Yeah. It sounds like a bunch of excuses. Yeah, this is crazy. Yeah, that's what we do. We make excuses. That's our job. We'll answer them after the break.

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1:11:14You just have to hire one. You can hire top-rated pros, see price estimates, and read reviews all on the app. Download today. All right, welcome back. Last but not least, I take it back. This is the least important thing. Because this is what I talked about last week. I was like, is the most important thing about AirPods going to be USB Type-C? Yes. The new AirPods Pro 2 have USB Type-C, and it is the most important change to them. Asterisk. But it's not the only change to them. It's the only thing they mentioned in the keynote. Yeah. That's a great point, Andrew. Yes. Big old asterisk. It sounds like you guys fought over if you were right or wrong already.

1:11:51It's just, so this is one of those things that kind of got pseudo-announced. It's like when the site gets updated and the background pages get updated, but they don't mention in the keynote. This is one of those things. So to make it perfectly clear, AirPods Pro 2 with lightning and wireless charging is one product we've had for a while. Brand new AirPods Pro 2 with USB-C and wireless charging. Different product. Now, this was not mentioned on stage. But the only difference to the product that actually matters is if you have an Apple Vision Pro headset, the new USB-C cased AirPods Pro 2 will be capable of lossless wireless audio with single-digit millisecond response times.

1:12:46Like it's low-latency lossless audio. so it's going to make this like awesome you know engaging like fully immersive experience if you use that it's going to be high quality apple made a new compression made a new like codec just for this which is super super cool this will not work with the current lightning airpods pro 2 you cannot buy just the case it's a new set of earbuds i tried so they're so they're the same so it's the same generation it's still airpods pro 2 but there's a new architecture there's a new something hardware related inside that makes only the new ones compatible just if you have apple vision pro and want to do lossless low latency audio if you don't they're effectively the same product with a new port can i say the official name of this product sure all right it is free engraving true it's it's right there okay airpods pro parentheses second generation close parentheses with magsafe charging case parentheses usbc close parentheses that rolls off the tongue if i want to walk out into my christmas list is gonna say yeah hey mom i really want the airpods pro second generation but all you really have to say is i just want the usb airpods and everyone knows what you're talking about.

1:14:02For now. For now. Until we get a USB AirPods Max, I guess, yeah. And, or AirPods 3. True. Yeah. True. Yeah. But for now, these are the only ones with USB-C. True. Yeah. So, an interesting quirk. Just wanted to get that out there. If anyone was thinking about getting Apple Vision Pro, and you just were thinking about your headphone situation, those are still allegedly on track to ship early. You know, maybe you want to pair those things up. Just so you know, the new ones with USB-C are the ones that can do the new fancy trick. That also makes sense. It seems like they're upgrading a lot of their products ahead of time to really make sure the Vision Pro is a seamless experience for as many people as possible.

1:14:38Some people even mentioned they were like, Vision Pro is so expensive, they could just throw in a pair of these. There's a lot of things. That's been true about chargers in the phone box, too. They're just. Yeah, they won't. Yeah, they won't. Yeah, but it's just like it's cool that they're upgrading everything ahead of time. So now people are going to be used to tapping. People are going to have these like headphones that don't have any latency. All eyes are on Vision Pro. Yeah. Seems like that's - Or in Vision Pro. In Vision Pro. No, through Vision Pro. The first product you see through, not that.

1:15:06It's true. Or something. I hated that. Thank you. Thanks. Either way, that's basically, I mean, we've gone through all of our most interesting, important announcements. I think what we wanted to do now is just go back through our predictions that we made last week and just see how many points we racked up and if we were correct about anything interesting. Yeah. Okay. Let's do that. Cool. Prediction time? Prediction time. All right, and because we're awarding trivia points here, I feel obliged to... Oh, all right. All right, Marques, last week, you predicted... What did I say? USB-C will be the most important update to the new AirPods.

1:15:46After deliberating for hours, literal hours, going back and forth, we have decided we'll put this one on hold because we feel it's not clear yet, if that's the case. That's true. Really? Yeah. The only other possible new feature is something that you can only use if you have a$3 ,500 headset that's not out yet. But what if it's awesome? As of right now, we feel that Apple may have some tricks up their sleeves and may roll this feature out on these buds later. I say I get the point now and take the point back if something cool happens. The season's going to be over before then. We'll revisit this at season's end and see how we feel.

1:16:29Are the Vision Pro going to be out by season's end? Don't worry about it. David, you predicted that all iPhone 15s will have USB-C. Let's go. But then you added that the Pro will have Thunderbolt, which was wrong. It's half wrong. You were close. It's three quarters wrong. USB 3, not Thunderbolt. you agreed with him. I did. Which means you are missing out on that point. Which gives Andrew... Is this a two-point question, though? Is this a two-point question? No, these are all all or nothing. Wow. Which really hurt Andrew, who said, the iPhone 15 Pro will have an action button. It will not have an accent color.

1:17:11And then he went and ruined it by saying they'll put out a case that does have an accent color. Which they did not. Have we looked at all of them? Well, the other two are so obvious, I think. I wanted to have something cool. Ellis spent like a solid 20 minutes digging through the website. Did you dig? I really wanted to find the case. Instead, they just made an animation in the settings with an accent color. That's really funny. They really were just messing with me, I feel like. Marquez and David, you guys both got one point for disagreeing. Oh, nice. Our Delta's exactly the same. Right back to where we started.

1:17:42And despite a dedicated listener writing in and claiming they saw an Among Us figure, somewhere in the presentation. We were not able to confirm. I looked for so long. John told me he saw one. Such a fact. If you out there found an Among Us dude. Screenshots only. Yeah, send it in. Otherwise, for now. I found RuneScape, Mario, Clash of Clans. I found every other game in that tile. Where they had all the games. Yeah, I looked for so long for Among Us. I'm convinced they listened to Waveform and took that out. Yo, this fine woven kind of looks like leather. What? Where? I'm looking I was looking okay thank you no no no never mind no don't you yell at him he's trying to help me out so Marquez David you guys both get one point for that Andrew I appreciate you sticking with me but sadly we're going down with the ship and that brings us to oh you guys each got two points no because it's not it's not individualized yeah it is oh yeah so you guys did both get two points for your predictions.

1:18:48Way to go. I still remain scoreless. What a shame. But now, for our actual trivia questions, I'll kick it to Adam. Alright, so quick update on the score, now that you guys have gotten those points. Marquez with eight. Andrew with one, two, three. Every week. Oh, he's got four. That's not bad. David with nine, still in the lead. Wow. First question. Which iPhone was the first to come with FaceTime? Is there like a writing thing on this? Notes app? Oh, sorry. I don't know how to use this. Notes app, can you please? I didn't have my phone out. Wait, I don't know what the Notes app is. If you guys just pull down from Spotlight and search for Notes.

1:19:30I'm just going to do reminders. Where do I draw? Make a shortcut real quick. Wait, what was the question? Which iPhone was the first to come with FaceTime?

1:19:43I'm torn between I'm torn between I just pressed the button on my AirPods I'm wait which okay I want to pick the same one you picked you can't decide I know but are you gonna I don't know maybe I'm just happy my cool iPad handle will let me flip this over so nice but then it won't be nice because it's in the reminders app and it looks like yeah Marques and I are yeah alright flip them and read please the reading is very important I can't even read yours. Honor system? What does that say? You have a tablet in your hand. So I was torn between 4 and 4S, but I picked iPhone 4. Correct. I said iPhone 5.

1:20:21Yes. Maybe what'd you say? 4S. Can I not draw? I was also torn between 4 and 4S. Because that was the big new iPhone with a front-facing camera and the new design and FaceTime and all that stuff. Yeah, I just thought that maybe they had a new processor and they were like, no, we can do video. I thought about that. There was an important new feature released on the 4S. Do you remember what it was? I think that was a new high-res video. 4S? Yeah, 4S. Siri. It was our girl Siri. S for Siri. Yeah. I just got that question so quickly that I thought it was too easy. I was like, damn, did I mess up? He's like, oh, it's the half and four.

1:20:55I thought, yeah. I was so locked between four and 4S. Yeah, I just tied Andrew. Let's go. Wait, Andrew, what'd you put? Five. Oh. You tied me. Yeah, we're necking. Yeah, you tied David. Okay, I tied David. Yeah. Perfect. Question two. All right. All right. A16 bionic, if that's that important to you guys. Yeah. Live voicemail transcription. What was the subject? A, picking up a child from soccer practice. B, a dinner reservation for later that evening. C, lobsters. Or D, all of the above. Lobsters. I just like. Did you see what I wrote? No. It's gotta be D. Do you think? Is that the... I mean, I found the notes up.

1:21:45I have the voicemail in front of me, and I will read it to you after giving you the right answer. That really makes me think it's D. Wait. I need to... Oh, my writing thing went away. Hold on. I can do it. You got like three seconds. You put yours down already. Okay, I did it. All right. Flip them and read. Whoa. Okay. We all have different answers. Marquez, I really can't see your screen at all. I wrote A. Yeah, it's D. Mine says, this is a test note. The first note, and then I drew a lobster. That's it. It was about lobsters. David, what do you have? D. Damn. I'm sorry, guys. The voicemail on the screen, and this is not a joke.

1:22:22The voicemail that someone received and was live transcribed was, hey, did you know lobsters never stop growing? Like ever? Nature is wild. Please never call me. Wow. That's that same joke. I'm going to leave you that voicemail every day. Next time I call Adam and he doesn't pick up. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, they have apples here. Why? Of course they have apples here. Of course they have apples here. I think that's it. I think that's all we wanted to say today. And we have a lot more, of course, coming up. It's Tech-Tember. I mean, we're here at Apple Park. We're going to be back in our studio.

1:22:55We've got more to talk about. Stay tuned for the reviews of everything we just talked about. Ideally, we can answer all of our questions. and if you do know more about ecosystems and sustainability and recycling materials, hit me up on Twitter. I think that's it. What's Twitter? Sorry, X. No. It's Twitter. No, no, no, no. It's Twitter. X what? Twitter.com I think that will still work if you go to Twitter.com slash MKBHD, but if you can't find me there, X.com. Oh, it's weird. All the people are telling us we need to go. We should probably wrap this up. Yeah, we should finish this up. Is that Elon in the doorway?

1:23:29No, he's coming! Catch y 'all in the next one. See you later. Peace. Serino. Peace. My friend Serino. Waveform is produced by Adam Molina and Ellis Rovin. We're partnered with Vox Media Podcast Network, and our intro outro music was created by Vain Still. And thank you to all the Apple people here that are incredible and always do a great job. But you gave them two mics. Now they're going to want two mics when we get home. We've tasted the good life. I'll put it on your bill. The mouse has eaten the cookie. This is not a drill.

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