Did Anything Change with AirPods Max 2?

13:46Marques Brownlee:I believe it's called an activation

13:48David Imel:all of Austin was an activation literally every single the coffee shop we went to had ads on our cups this is what happened to Coachella too man the corporations the local businesses probably made a ton of money which is probably super helpful so glad that a little company like Starbucks can just like roll it but so So yeah, the Tesla activation was right across from our hotel. So we came back and there was this flatbed truck with a big glass box and the cyber cap inside of it.

14:17Marques Brownlee:Yeah, I guess they had a bunch of Teslas in this parking lot. They had Model 3s, the new Model Y, the Cybertruck. And then they had one trailer in the corner pulled by a matte black Cybertruck that was like clear that had a single. It was pulled by a Cybertruck? I thought it was just a flatbed.

14:33David Imel:Oh, wow. I missed that.

14:34Marques Brownlee:Yeah, see, it was a whole activation. You missed it. so uh they had the little cyber cab in there someone actually on twitter pointed out that that's the same clear trailer they use to bring around i think a model y when it first got unveiled and they had like the tape that they had like pulled the model y off but you could still see the outline of the text that said model y that's hilarious anyway they're doing the clear trailer

14:53David Imel:thing and there's a robo taxi sitting right there there's a robo taxi we well so that it was there then we saw later on the corner there was another one parked not driving but parked and then there was other videos of one driving that had a steering wheel it reminded me that it had scissor doors yeah but you i forgot they sort of you mentioned that every time yeah every time i said you're just like programmed into like why did they do yeah they open sort of like a ladybug you know yeah that's a good way of putting it yeah wait so we saw one on the street that was like yeah it's thing it had it wasn't doing its thing it had a steering well yeah but i mean it wasn't what i was gonna say was i'm confused because that one was silver gray i think and the one we saw in the trailer was gold.

15:33You saw a robo-taxi. That was a robo-taxi. A robo-taxi is a modified Model 3.

15:39Marques Brownlee:Model Y. A robo-taxi is an unmodified Model Y that is a person in the passenger seat and nobody in the driver's seat that is operating kind of the same way like Waymo is in Austin where you can grab a ride from the app. The cyber-taxi is a fake car made of stickers. With gold. I did. Someone was Those are stickers. Someone was driving one of them like very slowly at like 15 miles an hour along the road. Someone did drive it. A cyber cab? Yeah, a cyber cab. And it had a steering wheel? It had a steering wheel. Yes, it had a steering wheel. But it has no side mirrors which is legal. So they were going at like 15 miles an hour and very slowly.

16:20David Imel:So when people say that they were driving around Austin in a robo-taxi. In a robo-taxi. That's a Model Y.

16:26Marques Brownlee:Robo-taxi is the Model Y. The Model Y. The Model Y. The Model Y service is a ride-hailing service of Model Ys.

16:31David Imel:It's like Waymo and Model-wise. So this Cyber Cab is the - Is not on the road yet.

16:37Marques Brownlee:Not on the road yet. It's the two-door gold-painted no steering wheel thing. That was the thing we saw in the truck. I thought that people at the live show were saying they saw that driving around. And that's why I was like, oh. No, I did see it driving around. Oh, you did? I did. It was driving around very slowly. With a steering wheel. With a steering wheel. It's not supposed to have a Cyber Cab. And it didn't have rear view mirrors. Or side mirrors. Side mirrors. Yeah. So allegedly when the cyber cab comes out, it will be sold to human beings in 2026 with no steering wheel pedals or mirrors because two seater.

17:07David Imel:Yeah. Wireless charging. Yeah. So two things we noticed is one. I thought it was to make this confusing and maybe helps in the confusingness of Adam right there. It said robo taxi on the side, but that's because that's the service. It did light up, which was kind of cool. There's this really funny video of, I guess, them turning it off at night. where like 10 Tesla employees are like wrapped around the front trunk to not be able to see the person reaching in to turn it off. Because I guess that's where the switch is. They do the same thing in soccer when they're about to shoot a goal. Really? You stand in a line in front of the person.

17:42David Imel:So at the event, it has gold arrow wheel hubcap and then it was painted gold. This was like a big sticker that looked pretty terrible.

17:51Marques Brownlee:Yeah, there's actually a long list of things that people have pointed out have changed between the initial unveiling at the event because we all got to walk up to that one and sit in it and take videos of it to now what they're parading around in this trailer and i'm sure more changes will happen so this happened with the cyber truck this happens every time but yeah one of those changes was instead of paint on the side wall of the tire to make it look like a low-profile tire now they had essentially glued a hub cap that is larger than the wheel itself and extends onto the tire to again make it look like a low-profile tire but they glued it to the side of the tire i don't even think you can like you need some amount of brake cooling and i don't think you can have a completely opaque thing that just seals your brake into yeah i mean it was it was a vinyl sticker yeah it was definitely yeah because this thing isn't on the driving right so it just has to sit there and look like a cyber robotaxi whatever um but yeah the the idea is to make it look really futuristic and part of this futuristic aesthetic is like a big wheel like you see you picture tron and you're like oh big wheel small car very futuristic so they're trying to make it look like a low profile tire on a big wheel and this is the new way they're doing it is with a sticker.

18:56David Imel:Yeah, I did see someone post a video of them. I guess they didn't really know what it was, but asking one of the Tesla employees. This was the one that was on the corner at the hotel, not in the truck, but not driving. And the way that the Tesla employee described it was, this vehicle is going into production about next month or so, potentially available for consumers sometime next year. So now they're saying 2027? Well, it's hard because this is a singular rant. employee or maybe not even Tesla employee. They may have just been hired for the activation there. I have no idea. But it's a person with a Tesla shirt answering questions about the CyberCab to someone who came up and asked.

19:33David Imel:Doesn't he know about the bet? Doesn't that guy know about the bet? I wish you went and talked to him.

19:37Marques Brownlee:I really kind of wanted to. We drove by it and I was like, what if I walked up and just asked, like, when is this thing coming out? What they have said to me. I have no idea. We have no idea. I guess we'll never know. Well, in other car news, Ellis and I got to ride around in the Rivian R2. This one's almost a real car. It's so close. It's, yeah. It's like a month from now? Yeah. A couple weeks from now? Yeah. Right around the corner.

19:59David Imel:Well, cute, what is it?

20:01Marques Brownlee:Spring. Spring. June 20th. It's so close. June 21st. It's technically just as real as the Cyber Cab right now, but it's so close. It's very close. It's so close. Yeah. We did ride in it. They had an activation. They had an activation there where you would, you know, go up a really steep hill, and then there were these micro hills where the car would rotate back and forth really quickly so that you could see how the suspension was keeping you upright and you felt like you were going to roll over, but then you didn't roll over. It's pretty nice. We rode in it. It felt extremely similar to an R1 in terms of build quality and stuff like that.

20:37You've used it, so you have experience too. That was fun. We had to wait in that line for an hour because so many people wanted to try it out.

20:46David Imel:yeah do you know is that only the performance that has that active suspension they all have

20:52Marques Brownlee:uh just active dampers there's no air suspension in any of them well it's still a good suspension

20:57David Imel:for what it is performance is semi-active suspension and i don't see that on dampers other of trims and it must have been the the performance so one of the things that was really cool about the rivian ride-along event that i wish all companies would do is that the people driving these cars were like engineers and developers for the cars um yeah i don't know i feel like it typically it's really hard to talk to someone who had a technical input on a product from from uh maybe maybe not for you marquez no this is usually true yeah it's like it's like generally these companies are like no no you're going to talk to the communications people the engineers will stay locked away in their prison there are there's a spectrum of companies and how

21:38Marques Brownlee:guilty they are of this i think maybe near the top of the list is like apple you only talk to pr people and marketing people yeah but on the other side of the spectrum there are companies who it's like especially a lot of auto companies you will sit in the car with the chassis engineer or the people who actually helped make that product happen yeah which is much more interesting to me yeah anyway i i was very like tell me everything the car knows about what's going on right now and i got a pretty detailed explanation yeah i mean as details you could be the whole ride along is like 45 seconds. So I was like, yeah.

22:10Point to X speed.

22:12David Imel:It does say unique to performance trim is the active suspension. Okay. They had all these cool plaid colors. I say plaid because it's like stripes of color that kind of like overlay over each other kind of like a weave like a basket weave. More vinyl stickers? Probably. But everyone was like, oh, these colors are so cool. And then they were like, but we're not going to sell them. They're selling a few colors. They're selling gray gray gray purple gray purple gray and gray

22:43Marques Brownlee:and gray there's also a green gray and a gray green yeah somebody had tweeted like oh these colors are so awesome like why aren't you going to sell these and Rivian responded like we love the color selection that we chose and I was like that's the PR person gray gray gray and gray I think that they just like are if you want a fun color you have to pay way more money I think that's the move. I'm not super in the off-roading world, but the liveries on the show cars they had at South By to me looked like they were inspired by the classic Baja trucks, if you know any of those liveries, just for audio listeners who are trying to imagine.

23:19Like who let the dogs out kind of thing? No, like the drink at Taco Bell. Oh. No, no, like Baja, the famous off-road truck race.

23:27Marques Brownlee:Right, yeah. I wonder about this sometimes. Like I almost want to start a formal petition, like Rivian, please sell us the wrapped R2. It looks so cool. Remember the camouflage wrap from our initial autofocus video, which was like R2-D2 themed? Yeah. A lot of people were like, this looks sick. I would want one of these. And I just wonder what, you know, companies tend not to do wraps. Maybe they're worried about like vinyl getting damaged or like people having a weird experience versus paint. I don't know, but I wish they would sell us these looks. They look cool. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. I mean, I guess you could go get a wrap separately and people will and et cetera, but those do cost a lot of money.

24:02So that was fun. There was also the Also bike, which is the Rivian sort of spinoff company. We saw a guy riding it and he told us that we could ride it and then we forgot to do it. We were going to do it and then we forgot. But apparently they're pretty cool. They look pretty interesting. They look kind of like a combination between like a nothing phone and like an Apple product. It looks like a weird like future bike from Meet the Robinsons that someone attached a like teenage engineering box.

24:31David Imel:Yeah, the box by the pedals feels very teenage engineer. Yeah, and I know that Quinn Snazzy Labs has done a video, maybe just a short or something about it. He got to go test it out for a while. A few people have. Seem pretty cool. They're very expensive, but they're pretty neat. They're super pricey. So that was neat. And then Ellis and I made a little hike out to the outskirts of Austin to see the Brain Audio store. I don't know if it's fair to call it. It's just South Congress. Well, I've never been there, so I'm going to call it. Upstate New York. It's Westchester. We went, we walked about three quarters of a mile south of the river.

25:12The outskirts, Ellis. It was hot. It was so hot. It was hot. Yeah, we met up with Brain Audio at the Brain Store. Brain Audio being that company that we made a video, a studio video of a little bit ago, that people got really mad at the way we titled it, but I don't care. The speaker broke physics. and they are working on a new product that they just unveiled at CES. We weren't at CES. We didn't get to see it there. It's called the Party Pro. Yeah. And it has the updated version of their rad driver, which is like this subwoofer mechanism that they've developed. Yeah. It's got the power of nine Brain X's.

25:46Something like that. It's crazy. It's just like, it's crazy. So this new speaker is like bigger than Brain. It's like, there's a Brain X sitting right off camera over here. It's lunchbox sized. Yeah. Yeah, this is like Brain X is like lunchbox size. Priority Pro is like large microwaves. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good way to describe it. And it's just one of those things where you look at it and you go, I can imagine how much bass that box will produce. And then you go, oh my, oh my goodness. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. It's crazy. And there's a bunch of really cool features that I'm super excited for.

26:20And it just seems like we're closer and closer to this rad technology being in like actual commercial speakers.

26:29Marques Brownlee:Just crossed my mind, as you were talking about the title that we used for the Brain video and the meta of reviewing tech on YouTube, you're saying we get the technical information from the manufacturer, which then gets obfuscated into more marketing everyday terminology to get given to us, which then we break down into technical information to understand better and then return back into - I can explain it. We're all just birds. I went to a talk. So if you don't know what South by Southwest is, it's like this everything. Andrew joked it's an activation. It's the connections convention. And so I went to this talk that was the chief marketing officers of Under Armour, the Ticova cowboy boot brand, and then like a major tech company, tech conglomerate, that I don't want to say who it was for the sake of this story.

27:23and I went up to the tech guy afterwards and I was like, you know, you don't know this but you and I have been locked in this intricate one-way dance for quite some time and he was like, what do you mean? And I explained that to him. I was like, you know, you're the marketing officer for this guy. Like your engineering department gives your marketing department this like technical sheet that then your marketing department has to turn into stuff that the average person can understand. Press release. Like Marquez said earlier, A lot of companies do not give us direct access to that information. So then we have to take the press releases and like reverse technicalize it to give it to you guys who actually do care about that technical information.

28:02And so I explained it. I was like, I was like, I've been doing this dance with you and your marketing department for years now, man. Yeah. How much is this speaker going to cost? Oh, no. I don't know. But because at the risk of sounding like a guess, who cares? It's going to be.

28:17Marques Brownlee:It sounds. I mean, the way you're describing it, it sounds like it's not. It sounds like it's going to be so expensive that no one's going to be able to buy. No, there's two things I want to say that the first is I'm going to steal what David was about to say because it relates to this, which is we cover a lot of like flagship huge tech. The cool part about brain and working with brain and talking with these guys is that they are the epitome of like two guys with a garage who are like actually changing the game and making something really, really cool and unique. and even though it's again it's like this is a marketed as a party speaker you know I don't think either any of us are the kind of people that like pull up to the beach with like a big giant speaker I mean they even said they didn't really want to make a party speaker but it's kind of the natural progression of what they wanted to do yeah and like on the topic of speakers I don't know how much it's going to cost you know the Brain X is sort of the most expensive one of the most expensive Bluetooth speakers in its category the cool thing one of the a lot of the cool things about the new Party Pro is, and this is inside baseball speaker knowledge, but there's like this integrated chassis.

29:17And then the top has these like latch points that connect directly to the chassis. So you can stack them on top of each other and form the speaker arrangement called a line array, which is a really common venue system. And then also you can add hanging points. Now you can like hang these from the ceiling. So they made a party speaker, but it's a party speaker that if you have the right hardware can actually function as an integrated sound system in a small venue and then they also added like full io and this proprietary ethernet based communication system and so like if you're in the market for like a party speaker this will be one of the more my guess is one of the more expensive things in the the thing it's going to have amazing battery life because of the rad technology and how efficient it is and it's going to get way louder relative to the size and weight of its competitors.

30:09And then also, it's the kind of thing where if you're already a dork and can sort of look ahead and see these technical opportunities, like you could actually build a pretty cool room with these. Or they have the ability to turn off the tweeters and the woofers and just have the sub be the only actuator. So if you have a small home studio...

30:26David Imel:At the risk of sounding like... Who cares? I think I literally forgot you were talking. Wow. They are parking up the wrong tree with their market. These are not consumer speakers. Yeah, the Bluetooth. Nothing you said sounds consumer to me. Sorry, I was going to say it so quick. I got distracted by something. Fine, fine, fine. I guess we only care about the fascist pro max freaking. Most people only care about the cheapest speaker. That's it. Yeah.

30:53Marques Brownlee:Not how it sounds. The Bluetooth speaker market is like one of those crabs where eventually you just end up at party speaker. and the further you go from party speaker, the smaller your market is. And so you're probably going out in price or in size or whatever. So like something like this, a$500 Bluetooth speaker is way outside. I think it might be$600. Yeah, same with like the WLA Phantom that we show, which is like obviously an insane, that's like a$2 ,000 speaker. And it's more of the novelty of like, look at how insane this thing is. And it's capable of some crazy things. And also they're everywhere in Newark Airport.

31:25Marques Brownlee:And this is another one of those things where it's like, hey, this one's also insane for these other reasons. And if you're a super audio nerd, You know you can turn it into just a subwoofer and then have a setup of a bunch of these you can make into a room. But at the end of the day, most people by volume are like, how loud? And the answer is louder than literally everything else.

31:46David Imel:I think the benefit there is similar to the DVLAs in the Newark Airport of if you're a business that needs very few small-form speakers that can fill a room, it seems kind of perfect for them. That price point doesn't matter as much. That was Practically Air South by Southwest. We got Terry Blacks. Yeah, we got a bunch of barbecue. Terry Blacks. David and I had a bunch of tacos. I went to the Blue Sky X Onion party. There was Blue Sky, Twitter, and the Onion? That's great. Twitter? X. Ah! Got him. I went to a party that was themed. Pun master, but doesn't see him coming when he's done. Sorry. I went to a party that was Kentucky Derby themed.

32:24And New Year's Eve themed. I heard some of the weirdest.

32:27Marques Brownlee:I heard somebody went to a TurboTax party. I'm like, what are you guys doing? What is happening at South By? The Don Toliver TurboTax concert. Yeah. Some South By stuff. That was our Austin experience. Yeah. Now we will move on to what this podcast is usually about. Oh, also, yeah, we just saw Tom Scott's coming back, which is exciting. He's been on the podcast before. He took a two-year hiatus from YouTube, and he's coming back. And I'm very excited to watch everything he makes again. Tom Scott and I have also been in an intricate dance that he didn't know about. he wears this red fruit of the loom shirt that my grandpa gave me when I was like five and that I wore to sleep every night for like 15 years and then I saw Tom Scott wearing the same shirt and I was like we are the same so we danced together how did he get my shirt how did he get my shirt anyway he's back with a six pack and I think we're gonna take a break now We have actual content coming up, I promise.

33:30I promise. No one said it. I promise. Trivia. Guys, thank you so much for mentioning the Tom Scott story because my trivia question is about Tom Scott and it would have not really made a lot of sense. One of Tom Scott's most legendary videos is the one where he wrote that script and the title of the video auto-updates based on how many views it has. You're all familiar. No one look it up. Because the question is,

33:56David Imel:How many current? Price is Right rules. What is the title of that video? And I'm going to hit refresh right before you guys answer the question to make sure we have the most up to date. Remember, this is Price is Right rules.

34:10Marques Brownlee:I feel like I should know this. So closest without going over. Exactly. So guessing one would be both dumb and genius. Closest without going over.

34:18David Imel:Oh, interesting. So guessing five would be better. I feel like that video spawns a bunch of other videos trying to like growth hack their way into like this YouTube video isn't what you think it is or like somehow it changes. Have you seen the influx of them recently? That's like there are five YouTube videos in this video and it's somebody makes five separate videos, but then like post it in five different screens in it. And then the audio tracks you swap between are five different audio tracks. So like in two minutes, the guy in the middle, if you click audio track one, is that guy talking. And then the guy like picture in picture in the side.

34:56David Imel:It might be like the Japanese dub, the whatever. But all they're doing to that. But it's all English. They're just uploading something else. So then like in the top left is a guy talking that the mouth doesn't match the first one. But when you click like Japanese dub. So now that's sick. If you watch all of them, you get 500 percent retention.

35:15Marques Brownlee:I love that. And that's that's hilarious. And also that's specifically like a very like of the times using the features. Like remember? Okay. This is going to make me sound old. Mystery Guitar Man. Is that Ring Bell? Yeah. Mystery Guitar Man. Yeah. Remember you used to do like choose your own adventure with annotations? Yeah. So you'd watch the first minute of the video and then there'd be like the top half annotation or the bottom half annotation and you could pick one and it would take you to the next part. And it was a whole series of like a web of things to get you to end. Yeah. That's cool.

35:43That was sick. That was of the times. Have you guys seen like the YouTube trumpets? The YouTube. Where someone uploads a video that's just like every 30 seconds, it'll be like a different note on the trumpet. And then you can take the. Oh, that's good. Go do do do do do. That should be forever. That should that should work today. I like people like utilizing the feature sets to make weird art. Yeah, it's cool. Love it. All right. Well, tell us that trivia question, Ellis. Oh, you already did.

36:10Marques Brownlee:We'll have to think of the number of views. Yeah. Closest to that going over. Answers will be at the end, like usual. We'll be right back.

36:37We'll be right back.

36:47Feel the respect in this battle. Pick a meal to pick a side. Hey, participating in McDonald's while supplies last. All right, welcome back. This is part two of the podcast, but this phone has three parts. It's the Samsung Galaxy Trifold. Damn, that was good. Thank you. Thought about that one last night. Why is the Trifold coming up? Okay, so we're talking about the Trifold because reportedly Samsung is discontinuing it. Damn, that was fast. That was really fast. I want to make that a sound bite. It was really fast. Yeah, a Samsung spokesperson has told Bloomberg that the Samsung Trifold will be getting one final restock today, March 17th.

37:30But after that, it will be gone. The decision reportedly comes as a result of high production costs, which made the Trifold nearly impossible to make a profit on. You could maybe speculate that RAM prices have a lot to do with that. the entire supply chain is just getting insane and I imagine that Samsung was barely making a margin on this thing already it seems that now they're not even selling that many it's been reported that fewer than 6 ,000 units were sold domestically in Korea since it launched and it launched in Korea before it launched here Korea was like the main place they were selling correct they did eventually launch in the United States in I believe late January or so but yeah it was a short timeline less than three months for the trifold So Samsung did say that they are going to trickle down the technology into future foldable devices, but it was not mentioned about whether or not they were going to make a trifold again, which is kind of I'm sure they will at some point.

38:24But you better buy it now before they're completely sold out if you really want it.

38:29Marques Brownlee:Yeah. Interesting. Thoughts on that. One thought is that you just said is the technology would trickle down to other folds. I don't know what tech from the trifold is applicable to trickle down to the other folds other than having one more screen. You've seen probably a bunch of videos now in your sub box. A lot of them were sponsored, but now the embargo is up of the Oppo Find N6, I believe it's called, which is their no-feel crease foldable. No-feel crease. No-feel crease. So you look at it, and visually there's no crease, and you run your finger over it, and you can't really feel a crease either.

38:58Marques Brownlee:And, you know, you get a fresh Fold 7 out the box, and it looks pretty good, but you fold it a bunch of times, and you start to see that crease form. Yeah, yeah. And this one is supposed to be rated for some thousands of folds and should never appear to have a crease that you can feel, which is really cool. That's a tech I'd want to trickle down to a bunch of other foldables. The tri-fold to me was just Samsung going, hey, what if this works? Let's try it. We're Samsung. And then, you know, it happened to, I'm punning today. But yeah, sometimes it doesn't work and sometimes people don't buy it.

39:27Marques Brownlee:And it's also$3 ,000. It was also really, really, really expensive. But I think the fact that it's not even selling that well in its home country, like Samsung is a lot of Korea. so if it's not selling well there yeah they make everything that's like coming out with an electric car that doesn't sell well in California you're like well we're cooked you can't sell well here it's like not selling very many avocados in California that's yeah exactly

39:50David Imel:the best part about this was they cooked with the the subtitle for the Verge article and just said it didn't try for very long TRI just weatherbed kudos very nice damn yeah so again you want to get on on that for$3 ,000 you'd be my guest but I think most reviews were like, it's cool, it's interesting, and it's neat, but it's still kind of lacking. And yeah, we'll see in the future. Maybe Trifold 2 is just coming out soon. I don't think that's going to happen.

40:17Marques Brownlee:I will say Trifold is available. It's eligible still for a smartphone award 2026 for Best Big Phone. It's just, even though it only was three months of 2026, that is kind of sad because then the awards come out and then you can't buy it. Yep, that would be sad. Have we ever had a discontinued phone win an award?

40:35David Imel:like yeah like come out get discontinued and won an award has anything else really been discontinued besides the note seven has the hydrogen get discontinued before it won the okay the bust award doesn't count that makes the most that was still available right it might when i gave it the award maybe i mean essential got discontinued but it was a while later yeah yeah

40:55Marques Brownlee:yeah that would be truly unprecedented times we're living in yeah yeah lg probably died

41:03David Imel:mid-year. Yeah. So that probably means there was a phone that came out. I mean, the Wing probably came out within a year of it LG quitting. Oh, that's true.

41:11Marques Brownlee:Yeah, but the Wing didn't win any awards. Well, yeah. The Wing was crazy. The Wing was pretty crazy. Should have won all the awards. Yeah. So speaking of phones that probably won't get discontinued. Maybe. I actually had a different segue I was going to throw to, because I have, okay. By the time we're watching this, our Nothing Phone 4A and 4A Pro reviews, or one review, is out. I'm going to actually hold it. I have the 4A Pro right here. This is the pink one. It's not the best-looking version of this phone. I think the monocolored versions are better. Pink, allegedly. I reviewed the phones, and I also have this theory, because we've talked about Nothing before about why they're not doing a flagship this year.

41:48Marques Brownlee:They're not doing a... Yeah, you can hold it. They're not doing a Nothing Phone 4. They're just doing a 4A and a 4A Pro. 4A Pro Lite. Just kidding. And it's interesting, and I think you mentioned RAM prices. I think nothing is in a really tough spot, whereas a smaller company, they don't get the best costs because their order sizes from suppliers are smaller. And in general, they probably spend more for all the same specs as the big flagship companies. They, at these conditions, can't really make a competitive flagship. Last time they tried was Nothing Phone 3 last year,$800, kind of got flamed for it.

42:25Marques Brownlee:They put a flagship chip in it, but it just wasn't a full-on flagship, especially the camera performance. What they do thrive at is really good mid-range phones. These are competitive, good, well-priced mid-range phones. The Nothing Phone 4A is 349 euros, 349 pounds. It's really good for that price. Triple cameras for that price. iPhone can't say that. Pixel can't say that. Samsung might have a triple camera phone at that price, but it's like, that's nice. It's an OLED. It's 120 hertz. It's a Snapdragon 7S Gen 4. It's a good phone for 349. and then the 4a pro that you're holding is 500 us dollars and it's not as great of a deal but it's still pretty good so yeah the reviews are out i'm curious you know now that you're holding one and looking at the 4a pro what you think of yeah i want to boot it up real quick and just kind of see the the stuff again like you said um so it's metal so no wireless charging yep metal phones are sick but no wireless charging is sad yeah i'm fine with that because like if

43:23David Imel:you give me no wireless charging in a glass back then i'm mad if you're gonna not give us wireless

43:27Marques Brownlee:charging then give me the premium and then i'm okay with it true the 4a does not have wireless

43:33David Imel:i will miss wireless charging but i'm glad they at least gave you the premium other option yeah yeah yeah yeah i think that nothing is still doing a pretty good job with the constraints that they had like you said the 349 dollar one is is cooking like crazy i you know on twitter randomly some bot will like a tweet that you made from like 10 years ago all the time all the time So yesterday, a bot liked a tweet that I had made in a thread about the Pixel 4a when it first came out. And that phone was$349. And I really, obviously, Pixel 4a is one of my favorite Pixels they ever made. Hardware, plastic, very cheap.

44:10And I was sort of just talking about the software makes up for it, et cetera, et cetera. this is like i mean the the nothing phone three four a is sort of like the it's a much better version of that so it's got everything that the pixel for a had but you know it's more premium and in many many ways so if you look like you know even if you add inflation into account or how many years six years after the pixel 4a and we still have this being able to buy something like that at 349 is still an incredible deal especially in the universe we are currently living in with like RAM shortages and stuff.

44:45Marques Brownlee:Yeah. So, but like you said, it's going to come down to whether or not you actually want the extra stuff that comes with the Pro and if you're okay with the metal unibody versus the other designs. Yeah. I just find the positioning fascinating.

45:01David Imel:Yeah. I think it's good positioning. I think these phones are awesome at their price point. I don't love the pink on this as much because inside the camera bump, it doesn't match. whereas the black one has a like black interiors and the silver one has the white interiors. This basically has the silver interiors on the camera bump. They didn't send us a silver one, which I think is the best looking one. It matches the best with the red accent and everything, which I'm bummed about. But there's a small example I wanted to throw in here of Ellis talking about how like technical versus marketing aspects and how that can kind of be confusing.

45:34David Imel:And it made me realize like sometimes with these briefs or like press briefings and the briefs that they actually send us feels like we're translators at some point because we need to find goes from technical to marketing jargon to us then trying to figure out the level of technical and jargon to use but on the 4a pro with the glyph system the interface the led interface glyph matrix the glyph matrix thank you um they write it is like 50 bigger and twice as bright so we are doing the script and i'm like going through it and making sure everything's correct and seeing what else we can add to it.

46:11David Imel:And I go, oh, it's bigger. The easiest way to prove that it's bigger other than showing it is to find out how many LEDs are inside of it because they made a big deal of it being like 137 mini LEDs in here. So I was like, cool, the old one must be less. And then I keep getting this that the nothing three has 489 micro LEDs, why this has 137 mini LEDs, but is bigger. So their way of saying this is, oh, this is physically bigger but also way worse resolutions but we're not going to say it has less pixels in it. Yeah they'll never say that in the press release. And truthfully I don't think it matters I think it gets the point across in there I don't think you need because the resolution still looks terrible on the 489 pixel one but that's an example of those.

46:56Marques Brownlee:$499 is still a very good price for a phone like this. I just have beef the higher they go up in the range and I think that would have toppled with a pro phone or with like a flagship phone it's like the 349 nothing 4a is a great deal and a really good phone for the price. You're spending theoretically$150 more for this Pro phone. All you're getting, honestly, is the aluminum build and the glyph matrix. You know, the screens are almost the same. They're a tiny bit bigger. The pixel density is almost the same, but the brightness is almost the same. The cameras are almost the same. The same chipset?

47:28Marques Brownlee:The chipset goes from a Snapdragon 7S Gen 4 to a Snapdragon 7 Gen 4. The RAM is the same. The storage is the same. It's like almost the same phone. Pro features, I'm like, oh, it's the Pro. Maybe there's some camera features or there's some Pro things that are enabled by the software. I think it's just HDR video on the Pro and 140X zoom instead of 70X zoom.

47:48David Imel:World's first.

47:49Marques Brownlee:Which is just crop. So the 150 bucks up to the 4A Pro is like now it's a decent value. If they tried to go, that was the shutter sound? Yeah. If they tried to go all the way up, I think to a flagship$800,$900 phone and put a Snapdragon 8S Gen 5 or whatever in there and tried to go 12 gigs of RAM and all this other stuff, high-end storage, high-end screen, high-end cameras, they would be looking at their thinnest margins and their least competitive phone. And so they just didn't do it.

48:18David Imel:There is one thing you get with the 4A Pro versus the 4A, which is the ability to purchase it in the United States. The 4A is not coming to the US.

48:26Marques Brownlee:Ah, which is too bad because it's a better deal.

48:31David Imel:Yeah, I guess the other thing is just design. You might like this design with the metal body better. I kind of do in the silver version. And the silver looks really cool. Yeah. You think this is louder? Yes. I think this is less loud than the 4A. The 4A still has all of the like designs and everything going through it where this is like keeping it up into just this pill. Or the bean or whatever we call it. This is the plateau. That's the bean. The bean's the camera. But I'm talking about the 4A. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The 4A is just one big bean. Yes. Yeah. I think that is more subtle overall. I understand like they've got the clear back and everything, but the bean itself I think is more subtle.

49:08I think we should call it the pill, not the bean. Speaking of weird marketing terms to use for tech products, did you guys know that the AirPods Max top headband is called the canopy? What?

49:20David Imel:That actually makes a lot of sense. No, it's called the headband. The most Apple thing I have ever heard. The canopy makes sense in my heating.

49:27Marques Brownlee:I only know this because they just came out with the AirPods Max 2. news of the week. Very quietly announced with a press release in the Apple newsroom. It has an H2 chip in there and new amplifiers and that's kind of all you need to know. Wait, it doesn't even have a new canopy? Well, it's new colors, I guess. But physically on the outside, it's the same. There's no new on-off switch. There's no new case. All of the normal AirPods Max things. There's no off switch at all. Yeah, all the normal AirPods Max form factor stuff, still there, but new amplifiers and H2 chip, potentially better sound, but also one and a half times stronger active noise cancellation.

50:05Marques Brownlee:And then a couple, you know, interesting computational features like studio quality mics, allegedly. You should not. Conversational awareness or voice isolation when you're on a phone call. Stuff like that. That's what the chip is doing. Apple, if you can record an album using AirPods Max as the microphone, then I will be sold. Again, Apple is in pure marketing land with these terms. but yes the top of the airpods max is officially called the canopy so if you ever want to refer to that top piece that's what that is yeah david why would you give them that idea they're going to release an album now good that's a studio video studio quality yeah it's funny because apple does make some products that are genuinely like professionally used all the time and they can go hey here's an album that was made and mixed on a macbook pro with their speakers and you'd be like that's crazy but i guess someone could do that but then there's like the studio quality microphones on the iMac and you're like they're no studio has ever used these microphones studio quality is a stretch is a stretch i do i do think you can kind of record you could record a podcast with the macbook microphones and it sounds okay yep yep um i think many people have death glare i mean not we wouldn't there's 10 billion podcasts out there yeah chance it sounds better than quite a few yeah yeah yeah well they they sort of updated it with a lot of the things that the airpods pro 3 got um i think that's the reason that they wanted to do it because the airpods pro 3 were technically better in multiple ways yeah like you're able to answer calls by nodding and reject them by shaking your head they added that they added the game mode that reduces the wireless latency if you want to use them for gaming so they added that they now have a camera remote feature on the on the digital crown yeah the crown where you can like press it and it will take a photo with your iphone or your ipad that's what i was really waiting to upgrade for i i was just thinking like this is for selfies generally and then you have to be wearing AirPods Max in your selfie.

51:59Which is exactly what Apple marketing wants.

52:01David Imel:The thing that's weird about that is I'm not mad that they added a feature. It doesn't take away. I can't get mad at it. But in order to use that you generally would need a camera shutter remote for like a group photo. So that means you either are in the group photo holding your AirPods Max or you have it on while the rest of the people in your group don't and then you just like. This is just a big for Apple to like get more AirPods Max and photos. I gotta see if you can use this feature while they're not on your head. That's a great question because they don't they just turn off if you don't have them on your head?

52:31Marques Brownlee:Typically they just stop. That would be so funny if you could only use them while they're on your head. They don't turn off there's no off button.

52:39David Imel:Even if you're holding them that's weird you're still holding a pair of AirPods Yeah I would hold them in my hand

52:44Marques Brownlee:and like put them behind my back and then take a picture like this in the group with the crown behind my back and I hit the button David I forgot that they go to the sleep mode and take them off your head. That makes the recording an album with them even funnier because you'd have to stick your head in the bass drum of the... You have to literally put your head right next to the guitar amp. Oh, yeah. True. That's basically what Vision Pro does when you're taking video of Vision Pro. You have to go. Someone's got to do a taking Apple ads literally. Like, oh, this is a studio quality microphone?

53:17Marques Brownlee:Okay. And just put their head up against the guitar. That would be really funny. There's now a personalized volume feature that automatically fine tunes volume based on your preferences over time which i believe means like it analyzes how loud you're listening to music on a like long period of time so it's just always going to be maxed out no you know why that's fine because there's no number associated with it no that's not that's not fine that's like my worst nightmare wait ellis i just was do you also hate the feet i would love your thoughts on the feature of like you know how some cars when you get up to a certain speed will automatically increase the music volume while you're driving yeah if this feels like that doesn't it you know to me that feature i've always had a problem with not on a uh audio level but on like that it feels like it encourages you to drive like a maniac like you drive faster so the music gets louder so you drive faster so the music sorry officer the volume was just too low like my i like i want my headphone i want to learn my headphones.

54:17I don't want my headphones to learn me so that I can interpret everything coming out of the headphones. Because I would love to be able to use AirPod Max for work. Like I would love it. I think all of these features are designed for the opposite. No, I know. I think they sound good enough to do a decent amount of professional audio work on. And the idea of having one headphone that I have like a listen mode and I know what music and podcasts sound like on it, and then I can go and work on them and work as a reference but there's such a black box as far as their processing that i would not be able to trust anything that comes out of them they should have a studio mode yes that's a free idea

54:57Marques Brownlee:for apple yeah because you know that there are people who are trying to use these for that exact application and because of all this computing it's not ideal for that but if there's just a studio button wait question yeah if you use the usbc adapter to 3.5 millimeter cable and plugged it in for the lossless quality does that still have the personal you gotta get your facts straight bucko because the three point the usbc to 3.5 millimeter does not support lossless only c to c only c to c supports yeah yeah c to c okay so if you use the c to c for whatever for f***ing reason. Does that, would that be the studio mode?

55:35Marques Brownlee:It would be a nice, like, trigger to give you the button to switch. It's still doing all the, yeah. I think all the processing happens on the H2 chip, which, yeah. Yeah. So that's a free idea for Jaws or whoever's watching the pod right now from Apple. I was waiting to see how long it would take for someone to be like, and they support Lossless. It is funny that they waited until now to call it 2 because they released the updated AirPods Max with USB-C and that technically added the lossless via USB-C and they changed the colors a little bit and they changed the colors now they changed the chip and now it's 2 I don't really know why that makes it 2 on Wikipedia that one's called Gen 1 it's still Gen 1 with USB-C AirPods Max then AirPods Max with USB-C and now AirPods Max 2 I'm excited for them I know we're not generally AirPods Max lovers in this room, but I just think...

56:31Marques Brownlee:After your rant, I did fly to South by with my AirPods Max instead of the Sonys. They sound phenomenal. Yeah, they're fantastic. They sound phenomenal. They're awesome for flying. And I'm excited to hear what one and a half times stronger ANC sounds like. Me too. Probably not that much. I just wish they folded.

56:48David Imel:Yeah, I wish I didn't have to take up my entire backpack. I wish they were nice to use. This is like a crazy thing to say about a$500 per iPad. They're just heavy. I just wish they did any of the things I wanted them to. They have made their - Andrew, Andrew, 550. It is quite crazy and kind of ironic that such a simple design has become so iconic. I see them all over Brooklyn. They're pretty visual. People run with these things, which is insane to me because they're so heavy. That's insane. They're not meant for that. Don't do that. The canopy can't support that.

57:17Marques Brownlee:That's why I say they're perfect for flying because it's perfect for flying because they weigh so much that you just lean your head back because you're on a plane and they have ANC. So awesome ANC and they're heavy and it doesn't matter. And the canopy sits nicely on your head.

57:30David Imel:Apple really likes to make things that are really bad for your neck. The Vision Pro.

57:34Marques Brownlee:Yeah, man. We use these with the Vision Pro. F1 drivers. Oh, my God. Have you guys seen the crazy like suite of third party accessories that exist now? For what? In New York? Because David's right. Like I see AirPods Max all the time in New York. And so like people like there are all sorts of like clear slash opaque covers you can get. And like sticker packs and like, I've seen, I've seen people, you can get attachable cat ears for the canopy. Like people really like, like personalize them.

58:06David Imel:Razor's been all over that. The cat ears. I have seen that. They're still$550. Yeah. Still really expensive. You could buy this or you could buy MacBook Neo. Truly. Oh my God.

58:16Marques Brownlee:This was one of my favorite takes on Twitter was that seeing MacBook Neo and AirPods Max next to each other in the same store is truly like those are the opposite approach to a product. Like MacBook Neo is going as low as possible in price to essentially maximize your chances of customer acquisition in like the masses. and then hopefully that gets the people into like buying apple services and buying other apple products and that's the like trojan horse of like all right now i'm an apple guy macbook neo is their youtube shorts for discovery yeah it's a big funnel but airpods max are the exact opposite it's like these are you're not going to get these as your first apple product i ever wait can i tell a recommending macbook neo story that happened yesterday yeah because I feel like, you know, it was like, I, someone was like, oh, you're, it was my, it was actually really funny.

59:15It was one of my doctors. We were in the middle of an appointment. She was like, by the way, like tech guy, like, should I get the Neo? And I was like, I don't know, like, probably like, unless you're doing anything, you know, are you, do you make TikToks on the side? Like doctor TikToks? And she was like, no, no, no. She's like, to be honest, I'm less worried about the computer doing stuff. And I'm more worried about like switching to Mac from windows. Cause I've just always been a windows person. And I was like, you know, it's kind of cool switching to Mac. Like if you have an iPhone, like you'll get your texts on your computer and stuff.

59:43And she was like, you'll get your texts on your computer. And I was like, you need to. You this is who it's. This is who it's funny. That is funny. Well, there are new colors, as we mentioned. There's midnight, which is gray. There's starlight, which is. I'm just kidding. There's starlight, which is gold. There's orange, which is orange, but it's kind of burnt. There's purple, which is lilac. And there is blue, which is sky blue. my favorite part is that you can mix and match these oh ear cups like the ear cups just pop off so easily which is like great for and now there are so many colors of airpods max ear cups that you could just go crazy they all work with each other yeah yeah now you can have 700 headphones one more quick apple story before we take it to break um you guys might not know this the listeners of the podcast unless you are a content creator but motion vfx which is a plug-in suite that basically sells really nice plugins for Final Cut Pro, DaVinci Resolve, and Premiere Pro.

1:00:40We use extensively at the office. We use so many of these. Marques has been using the M Blueprint plugin since the beginning of time, since the dinosaurs. It's true. It's very true. And they got acquired by Apple yesterday, which we don't really know how to feel about because Apple obviously makes Final Cut Pro and this company makes very good plugins for DaVinci Resolve and Premiere Pro. Bayomark has a lot of money. We do have an MKBHD plugin.

1:01:10Marques Brownlee:I was going to say, I've been using them for so long that I actually, they noticed that I've been using them for so long and they were like, what if we collabed on an MKBHD plugin where we have like a bunch of your most used stuff and then some other custom stuff and we were like, oh yeah, that's awesome. So we made an MKBHD plugin in the Motion VFX suite. Apple also acquired all of that. They get that too. Yeah, that's a weird one. Yeah. Apple owns our plans. Dad? Yeah, so I'm assuming they're going to do the Dark Sky thing where unfortunately they're going to stop supporting DaVinci Resolve and Premiere, right?

1:01:44Marques Brownlee:I reached out to them and they didn't reply, so I don't know. They will. The second they bought Dark Sky, it was no longer available on Android, and I just feel like that's the first thing they're going to do is make this plug-in suite Apple only. I could see them still supporting the existing plugins, but not making new ones. Didn't they kill Dark Sky altogether, too? Eventually, yes. So do you think this is going to be a Final Cut feature? Every single plugin just integrated into Final Cut. Okay, yeah, this is how I forecast it going. And I'm bad at predicting the future, but this is the weather app.

1:02:16Marques Brownlee:Yeah, well, this is how I think it will go based on how past things have gone. Number one, they buy it. So number two now, they pull support for DaVinci Resolve and Premiere, and it's just available for Final Cut. And then eventually in some year and a half down the road version of Final Cut, we'll start to see stuff from Motion VFX built into Final Cut Pro. And then they eventually just sunset Motion VFX, and then it is what it is. All the plugins that I've been buying for years will eventually, kind of like my DarkSize subscription, just be wasted money. and ideally a lot of that stuff gets pulled in and becomes a reason for people to use Final Cut because that's what Apple wants.

1:02:53David Imel:That's ideally for Final Cut users, not for everyone else. Yeah, that's ideal for Apple. I don't know if they're going to pull it into Final Cut. I feel like they're just going to make it its own separate thing in the creator studio. Can I give you another reason to subscribe to the creator apps? That's a good take. That'd be crazy. That'd be insane value. Yeah. I mean, each of those plugins are like, stop. Yeah. Well, each of those plugins are like$80. They're not cheap. there's a lot of them and they come like when you buy one plugin it comes with a ton of different plugins inside of it and not for nothing but they are like 80 bucks but that like the motion VFX plugins have like the YouTuber industry like kind of locked in yeah unless you want to start building your own stuff or like if you know After Effects if you have a Michael who's just amazing at graphics there's also Motion Array but Motion Array is not good like their stuff has never been that good yeah Motion

1:03:40Marques Brownlee:Motion is just not good Apple Motion is terrible yes yeah I use the mgbhd plugins all the time i mean there's pics like there's pixel mater you know like they bought pixel mater and it's still a dedicated app that got put into the education bundle right yeah that's

1:03:54David Imel:in the creative bundle yeah the creator one or the creator one i mean educated oh my god i can't speak the education one the creator that's the creator studio pixel mater was already just an mac mac app yeah so this is weirder because now we're potentially losing like dark sky losing the other platforms, which sucks. We're just speculating, though. Yeah, the funniest thing kind of about this is Marques tweets about Final Cut crashing all the time, and Apple loves to be like, we tried to recreate all these things, and we're just seeing no problems. Little do they know, Motion VFX and Final Cut hate each other.

1:04:30David Imel:Yeah, seems to hate each other a lot. It works great. We still love Motion VFX, but the majority of the time Final Cut crashes is like a plug-in right when the play-in gets there. It's like when your dad marries your bully's mom and now you guys are stepbrothers. But like, I feel like every time you tweet about that, someone from Apple is like, what's going on? What's going on? And now they're going to buy it and start using it and be like, oh, my God, people work like this. Yeah, they're going to crash all the time.

1:04:57Marques Brownlee:They're going to learn real quick. Yeah, I think most of probably most of my bugs for the last couple of years I've used Final Cut are not actually a Final Cut bug. They are a plug in with Final Cut. I shoot red. There's the red plug in. That plugin has caused many crashes. There's the Motion VFX plugins. Those have caused many crashes. So over the years, every time I'll have like a really frustrating edit with Final Cut because it starts crashing over and over and I tweet about it, the Final Cut team reaches out and they're like, what's going on with Final Cut? And I'll send them the logs and they're like, yeah, maybe disable that plugin and see if it still happens.

1:05:31Marques Brownlee:And then it's fine. It's like when using Windows because your NVIDIA display driver crashes on your HP Omen laptop powered by Asus RAM.

1:05:39David Imel:You've got such a good segue. There's just unfortunately a trivia break in between. Oh. So hold that thought. Let's do trivia. That was good, though. That was good. Okay. Question number two. So Apple's high-speed event announced such classics as MagSafe and HomePod Mini. Dang. What year was that event?

1:06:03Marques Brownlee:MagSafe and HomePod Mini. are we doing delta or prices right

1:06:09David Imel:this one I think let's do delta let's do delta united do you know what I found the other day not totally related to this but kind of really we have that one butcher's block and do you remember when the original home pods used to stain wood when you left it on it for too long we still have this butcher's block that just has a white circle on it because we left a home pod on it for like 24 hours not even that long the rubberized bottom just straight up stained wood. That's a how did they not even test this. Yeah. Yeah. All right. We'll take it to break and come back.

1:06:51All right. Welcome back. Another thing that happened this week was NVIDIA's annual GTC conference in San Francisco. They sometimes reveal new graphics cards. They sometimes, actually all the time, reveal new AI. This year, they revealed new AI, as usual. So there is a thing that NVIDIA has been doing for quite a few years now called DLSS. It's Deep Learning Super Sampling, back when AI was called Deep Learning. They have their new version, which is DLSS 5, which is the thing that has been getting the most chatter in the last couple of days. And the reason for this is because what DLSS usually does is it sort of upscales content that doesn't actually have to be rendered by the graphics card.

1:07:34It's like AI models that do upscaling. This year, they kind of took it to the next, I don't know if you want to say next level or like a whole nother level entirely. Because basically what this is doing is it is looking at the pixels. and then it's generating texture maps that are anchored to the scene's content to make it look high resolution while not taking more processing power. The reason people are making memes about this is because it's basically doing generative texture mapping to a lot of the stuff and a lot of the resulting images kind of just look like they... It's almost this uncanny valley thing where they almost look like real people but it's that close off that it feels awkward and the sharpening and the contrast are just way up on everything.

1:08:23All the jackets look like really, really contrasty and sharpened. Clarity slider. The clarity slider is so high up. It's like the spiritual clarity. Because I just feel like a lot of them are like, well, a lot of them, it's like, this is an old person. So let's make them look as old as possible. Yeah, I'm

1:08:44Marques Brownlee:watching the side-by-side video right now and each time they do this side by side, every little bit of micro, it's literally like throwing the clarity slider up. Like every bit of micro texture turns into like a very visible texture. And so if you have a person that has a little bit of wrinkles, it massively adds a lot of wrinkles. Yeah. It also was a little annoying because it kind of like reminded me a little bit of HDR almost where some of the stuff, the shadows just get completely pulled up. Yeah. It's like they just get rid of shadows and they add detail, but it's like that didn't need to be there.

1:09:15Like, why do I need to see the background characters? Yeah. T-shirt, you know? Yeah. This is also getting a lot of flack because they showed some demos with like Resident Evil, which they always like to use Resident Evil for their demos. And a lot of people were saying that the DLSS 5 off image was like not even what it looks like in game. It's actually way higher quality than the off image that they showed. So people were speculating that they down quality, like made the quality lower just so it could look like a bigger difference. So there was some drama around that. The biggest question mark, as with most AI features, just becomes like if you are letting the graphics card use deep learning to create textures for you, how much of that gets taken away from the original artists?

1:10:00Yeah. That's like the question. And NVIDIA says like it's different in that when it generates these textures and stuff, they get rooted to the actual model. So it's not like it's generating like the scenes dynamically and changing everything dynamically. but and there are some sliders that the the developers are going to be able to use for how much shading they want on certain things how much like light they want on certain things the way that the texture is going to look um but yeah just one of those kind of like moral quandaries where everyone's a little bit a little bit weirded out by this i have a maybe a stupid question

1:10:35Marques Brownlee:that's okay i guess if the idea is the this technology and these models are individually on your GPU, analyzing the scene and upscaling, not upscaling, but like doing the improvement to quality. Yeah. Does that mean that theoretically everyone could look at the same exact map or have the same exact thing they're doing in a game but it could look slightly different? I don't know. That is something that I will have to investigate. Yeah. It's possible. I mean, you're taking... Generative.

1:11:04David Imel:But it's taking the exact... Oh yeah, I guess it's generative. Like they have... They said that the developers have some sliders but I don't know how much they have control over the actual resulting textures. The developer would send the game out to everyone so everyone should have the exact same game so it should be you'd think you would be taking the same source material and doing it exactly the same but I guess. A lot of generative stuff is random. Yeah it's based on like noise which will have a different seat but also remember a few weeks ago I was like yo how does DLSS work? This blows my mind and then a bunch of people emailed me and I still don't understand.

1:11:37David Imel:I feel like NVIDIA has this weird thing where wherever they release something really good the way I find out is by a bunch of memes online. It's like, that's how I know something huge in NVIDIA just happened. Yeah, that's actually valid. Same. Yeah. They need to do that because if NVIDIA drops something that isn't the greatest thing in the world, the entire US economy crashes. That's also true. The bubble will die. Yeah. And then, oh my God. Yeah, there was a big rumor that at this event, they were going to launch their own ARM-based consumer PC chips, the N1 and the N1X. that did not come out at this conference yet.

1:12:12It could also drop at the very last minute because it's still going on. It probably won't though. And that would be very interesting because then they would be competing with Snapdragon and Intel and all these things. But NVIDIA, as they are invested in many companies that are also heavily invested in Intel. So that's kind of like a weird, weird little collaboration there. Anyways, these will be available on RTX 50 series GPUs in the fall. and I guess we'll be able to see how either terrible or good it actually is once that happens. Speaking of gaming really quickly, there is this new split mouse thing that starts as a regular mouse.

1:12:51I actually, I could have used this this weekend because Ellis and I had a four hour delay at the airport and I wanted to play Dota and didn't have a mouse and we walked all around the airport for like an hour and I found one mouse that was probably 30 years old and it was$30 and I did not buy it. And I used my trackpad and it was a horrible experience playing Dota 2. Uh, anyway, this mouse looks like a regular kind of travel mouse and then you can split it in half and then it's like these switch style, uh, game pads. Is this real? Oh, it's pre-ordered. It's a Kickstarter.

1:13:19David Imel:It's Kickstarter, I think. It's called the Pixel Paw. It's if you, for audio listeners, if you imagine just a black, a regular black mouse, two buttons, you'll notice there's no scroll wheel because that split between the buttons follows the entire length of the mouse because that's where it literally just snaps in half. and now you have a full game console split like joystick controllers. There's no scroll wheel because it wouldn't make sense. That's really annoying. Left side you have your joystick and D-pad. Right side you have ABXY and another... And a sparkle emoji button? What does that do?

1:13:53David Imel:AI button. It's on both of them. This is, you know, it's Bluetooth and dongle support, 72 hours of battery life, 1 ,000 hertz polling rate. I can't believe this thing... Well, it's not really yet, so whatever. this has a thousand hertz pulling rate but the logitech mx master 4 does not uh multi-device pairing what's funny is the render of this looks awesome but then the videos they actually post the texture of the mouse looks very 3d printed so i'm not quite sure how far along they are i'll give them the benefit of the doubt but this imagery makes me really nervous the imagery kind of makes me nervous out for me yeah the it's a really cool design i don't it doesn't look like the most comfortable mouse in the world it has these really big like pieces on the back where the back of your palm almost wrist would yeah sit and i don't know if that feels nice or not i am annoyed by the lack of scroll wheel that's pretty annoying no scroll wheel kind of feels like a deal breaker because whether you're just productivity or playing games scroll wheel almost always does something yeah really important to what you're doing totally um so that kind of sticks but it could you know it's bluetooth and has a dongle it can connect to a bunch of different things and just be a straight up controller which is kind of neat yeah maybe if you're using steam deck as like uh like bringing a steam deck around it might be kind of cool for different types of games that work better with a mouse or a controller yeah and if you could pair this to a switch too it also make a lot of sense yeah um tend to switch too but real quick since we're talking about mice i got a new mouse recently that i think is kind of neat so i'll talk about it as fast as possible What's his name?

1:15:25David Imel:Herbert. Stuart. Little. He's a little boy. His name is Pwnage. This is a company where I do not love their name, but I do like a lot of their products. I can see the target demographic.

1:15:40Marques Brownlee:Yeah, exactly.

1:15:41David Imel:This is very obviously a gaming mouse. They do make also one of my favorite Hall Effect keyboards, but this is the Sim 3. They make a bunch of mice, and what they do really cool is they're ultra customizable. i brought it here essentially what this is is it's a gaming mouse that has kind of all the specs you would ever want up to 8 000 hertz pulling rate 200 hours of battery life 50 grams without holes uh kind of the the ideal mouse but the problem with a mouse is no matter how good all the specs are it comes down to feel and it's really hard to tell how a mouse feels by the internet sometimes you just have to buy a couple of them to see this is super customizable with almost no tools you can just pop the back off and have different colors and sizes of where your palm raises so it can like pump up more it can go down more oh you know there's there also each button can really easily just pop right off so now you can do different colors you can have different size indents in each mouse button without them different sizes see the body yes but does it have Joy-Cons inside?

1:16:49David Imel:No, but it does have, with a little tool, this is the only thing you need a tool for, this is like a mechanical keyboard switch tool, is you can actually take out the switches for each button. For each mouse click. Gosh. And there are different types of... Dude, I'm so mad.

1:17:07Marques Brownlee:I'm so mad.

1:17:08David Imel:At what? I'll tell you. There are different types of optical and mechanical switches that you can then put in there, just like pop them in, but they all have... That's crazy.

1:17:16Marques Brownlee:Can I ask something? what has been the general reception to this idea online?

1:17:22David Imel:I'm not that deep in the gaming mouse category anymore. I think they're a pretty popular company. A lot of the pros use them. I think still places like Razer kind of beats out a lot of big ones. Razer and Zowie. So I have beef with this. Okay, that's your beef.

1:17:39Marques Brownlee:Back about 10, 12, 15 years ago when I was growing up, I had this mouse called the Cyborg Rat Mouse.

1:17:47David Imel:Yeah, from Madcats.

1:17:48Marques Brownlee:Yeah, from Madcats. And it was a fully modular adjustment. I got made fun of for that relentlessly. It's the same thing. Look at it. It's the same thing. Have you seen that thing? Look, I have big hands. I can't use a regular-sized mouse. This mouse, I get to customize it to fit my hand. Oh, I get to move it. I get to put weights in it or take the weights out of it. The same idea. I didn't even need special tools. It was all built in. And I had this customizable mouse that was perfect for me. and everyone hated it and I got hate for it and then I retired it and now this idea is suddenly, oh, you can customize your mouse.

1:18:23Marques Brownlee:Would you look at that? That's so nice. I want to customize my mouse. I'm like, well, you guys don't know about the Mad Cat's Rat. The Mad Cat's

1:18:29David Imel:Rat is the cyber truck of gaming works. See? See, I got so it gets hate, but it's the OG for this. We have also normalized insane looking PC peripherals over the last 20 years. I think at that point in time, everything looked really

1:18:43Marques Brownlee:really basic and then eventually it was called the rat because it was better than a mouse it was bigger i never made that connection the problem if you don't know what this the cyborg rat is is

1:18:54David Imel:imagine a mouse where like all the corners had like a dial that could move it like up and down or side to side and make it wider or longer or yeah wider the it's not it's not the angle this mouse looks like it weighs seven pounds you could take all the weight out of it would be lighter

1:19:10Marques Brownlee:than a normal mouse or put all the weights in it it'll be smooth and heavy i bet it still weighs

1:19:14David Imel:more than this wireless one with 200 hours of battery life but could you change the weight though i don't know everyone right now in the gaming sphere wants light it's like 50 50 to 80

1:19:24Marques Brownlee:grams it's like i will find i will find out the weight for you of this mouse because i'm sure it's

1:19:30David Imel:but lots of different right now there's only black white red but the sim 2 had like a million different colors so two two things i think are cool about this like i said before it's all about feel it's kind of like uh truly wireless earbuds right like you might buy a pair that you think are great but they don't fit in your ears great so with this you get when you buy it it comes with all three different backs and the two different buttons so you can kind of make it fit your hand better yeah um and it has all the specs you would want then if you're also someone like me who switches a keyboard out all the time or a desk mat there will be different colors to so now your mouse can match the different colors of the desk that you're setting up what's the value in raising or lowering the optical sensor?

1:20:10David Imel:I don't know. My guess is, like, depending on how you lift off, maybe having it more forward-facing or more, or not forward-facing, but more towards the front and more towards the back is better. My hot take is if you need to adjust these things, you're just bad at video games. Yeah. Might not be wrong. A lot of pro players, though, will say a million different things of, like, oh, I'm trying claw grip out this time, and now I'm hitting everything better, which I think is kind of... Snake oil. or like the pros doing it and you definitely don't need to I was wondering why this wasn't clicking it's because I don't think the the switch is in it I don't want to sound like an ad too much but I thought it was neat

1:20:49Marques Brownlee:you can still buy a Cyborg Rat 7

1:20:51David Imel:if you love it so much buy it

1:20:55Marques Brownlee:it's an option my video is from January 31st make a short on it honestly the short would pay for it it's 14 years old good times Well, I think that's all we have for this week. We are recording a day early this week because of scheduling conflicts. And so if anything major happens tomorrow or Thursday, I'm sawy.

1:21:16David Imel:That's also why I'm wearing green and no one else is because it's St. Patrick's Day. Is it actually? Yes. What the actual hell? I brought green bagels in it. I'm literally wearing green.

1:21:25Marques Brownlee:All of you didn't realize it was St. Patrick's Day and wore green by accident. 50 % of people in the room are wearing green. Well, I'm more upset at these two. I mean, this is green gray. David's laptop is green.

1:21:36David Imel:Okay, but also I said it and everyone went, what? It is? There's a lot of green in here, actually. No one knew it was St. Patrick's.

1:21:40Marques Brownlee:I literally pulled out of my driveway and I was like, ah, crap, I forgot to wear green. And I get here and everyone's wearing green. And then Andrew goes, oh, St. Patrick's Day. And they all go, what? That's today? Like, you're all wearing green by accident? That's insane. You guys are messing me up. I'm sorry. We've been accepted by leprechauns.

1:21:55David Imel:I feel like wearing green and blue is directly. Pinteresting. Or it's just like blue is the antithesis of green. He's the ocean. I don't think that's true. Use the ocean. They're right next to each other in the rainbow. Yeah, blue and green together is like one of the most sought after colors ever. It's seafoam. Just ask Miles Davis. That's right. Kinda blue. Deep cut. I don't get that. No, it was even deeper than that. There's a song on that album called Blue and Green. Oh. On Kinda Blue? I'm more of a green and blue guy. You know what has no color?

1:22:25Marques Brownlee:It's trivia.

1:22:26David Imel:No, trivia is blue. Have you ever seen the lights behind you? They're kind of green a little. If you look at them. They're red. A little blue and green, actually. Trivia after dark. Guys, I have refreshed the video. What is the title? And we're doing Jeopardy rules, so you have to write the full title of the video. Wait, hold on. Jeopardy rules would be you have to write what is and then the full title of the video. No, you're right. You're right. We're doing Ellis... Ellis... We're doing Jelel... We're doing Ellis's Je... We're doing Jelel-es-br-dee rules. What is the title of the Tom Scott video as of me refreshing it 35 seconds ago price is right rules i went super specific so if i'm off by like five over i'm gonna be so mad i think i'm way i think it's a million over this but i went under on purpose okay who wants to go first all of you flipped your boards and okay someone read first holy moly okay you go first marquez my title is this video has 12 million

1:23:28Marques Brownlee:20 ,202 views. Excellent guess.

1:23:31David Imel:Mine is, this video has 17 ,653 ,147 views. Excellent guess. Mine is, this video has 58 million views. Objectively a better guess than the other two. This video has 74 ,958 ,941 views meeting David and Mel. 74 million. You rolling in it, my guy. I heard something like they fix the bug that allows you to do this, but they just let him still have the bug. As they should.

1:24:02Marques Brownlee:That's awesome. Yeah. As you do. All right. After that, quick update on the score. Marquez with 17. Andrew with 19. David, after that correct answer, with 22. 22. Wait, I'm also rolling in it, Tom. You and me, we had red shirts together. We had... We were rolling in it together. Are you just Tom Scott? That's right. David and I... Have you ever seen them in the same room? We have been in the same room. we have many times but i will say david amell worst takes on waveform best answers at trivia that's right if you don't get that go back and listen to the south by episode all right next question i only lost by two apple's high speed event announced such classics as magsafe and homepod mini what year was this event did you guys see what got killed by google this week Oh no.

1:24:51Keep? No. Oh yeah, Google Fiber. Stop it. They sold it to private equity. So it's not Google Fiber anymore. Private equity fiber.

1:25:03David Imel:Why is Google selling to private equity? They're selling off their fiber business. Because they were like, oh, why are we doing this? It's going to be devastating for the three cities that have it in 10 blocks radius. Alright, flip them and read. What do we got? I think it's probably... Wait. Marquez is erasing his previous answer. Which one is it going to be? It could be various. That's why you made that. It looks like his answer is 2030. 2020. 2020. Marquez and I both did 2020. That was sick. I did 2020.

1:25:41Marques Brownlee:David and Marquez get the point. That was the coolest point anyone's ever gotten on the way for him. That was kind of a bar. That was pretty sick. Only video viewers will understand what just happened. He erased his numbers until it said 2020. But you have to be there. It's for the full effect. It was like in Harry Potter when the letters re-arranged. It's like, I am Tom Riddle. It's like those people who paint something really complicating. You're like, what is this? And then they turn it upside down and it's this amazing portrait. It was almost that cool, I promise. Anyway. Thanks for watching.

1:26:19Marques Brownlee:Welcome back to Regularly Scoped of Programming. It's still Tarch, by the way. There's still a whole another week of Tarch to go. You could call it Mech if you want, but it's mostly Tarch. So, we'll see you in the comments section for all the fun stories that we missed on Wednesday. It'll still be Tarch next week, too. Exactly. Taperil's gonna be so crazy. Techroll? Techroll? I don't know if I can do another margin. We cannot. Dude, in Techroll, it'll be better weather. Get it? Integral? Intecral? It'll be nice. Please end this. We should end this.

1:26:53David Imel:See you guys next week. Peace. Wait for Miss Produced by... Well, you read it out now. Wait for Miss Produced by... Well, you read it out now. Wait for Miss Produced by... Yeah. Aprec. Adam Alina, Ellis Riven, Vox Media Podcast Network, Veinsil. Bingo!

1:27:22Oh, I didn't know David was jacked.