Gadget Prices Are Getting Ridiculous

23:05Marques Brownlee:This has happened before with like LG and LG display where I was like, those are actually two separate unrelated companies. It's the same effect. And they negotiate and contract with each other and are suppliers of each other and have relationships with each other. Really? Like the Samsung phones and the Sam, like there's no shared ownership. Like they're too in, because LG and LG displays are literally two separate companies. Yep. No relation. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. It's unfortunate because you'd think that they would talk and you'd think that they would simply make the cheaper memory for themselves.

23:38You'd think that many of these companies would talk. Yeah. You'd think that.

23:41Marques Brownlee:Even if they're not in the same exact way that LG Display and LG aren't, they are effectively separate. A lot of this happens with Google. I'll talk to Google and people in different buildings at Google and different departments effectively never communicate with each other in weird ways. And I wouldn't be shocked if this is the exact same. Which is why random apps get updated to support different things, and then they just don't have very obvious things with each other. It's stupid. Well, regardless, Samsung has jacked up the price of almost a dozen Galaxy phones and tablets to up to$280, from as little as$40 to as high as$280.

24:16the Z Fold 7 last week already had its price increased by about$80 across models which makes the 1TB model$2 ,500 and the 512GB model $2 ,200 but now they're raising the price of pretty much all the models except for the standard S26 series and the Ultra which it seems like so far I think that they're doing that because they're trying you know that's their most sold phones in the US besides like the A series are the S20, you know, S26 Ultra and the main S26 series. And also they have all the carrier partners with Verizon and AT &T and whatnot. I think they're trying to pad the margin on everything else.

24:55So most of their tablets went up in price. Dude, the S11 Ultra one terabyte is the$280 jump? That's crazy. It went from$16.19 to$18.99. For S26? No, the S11 Ultra tablet. The one terabyte version. went from what to what 16 19 to 18 99 280 bucks it honestly seems like the things they sell the least amount of they've raised the prices on the most so i think they're just trying to figure out how to pad the margin on on the perimeter yeah it's going to be interesting to see if all the other phone companies start jacking their prices up this year we haven't really seen that yet this

25:31Marques Brownlee:is kind of the first i heard the memory crisis was almost over yeah i mean there was a thing with like OpenAI didn't actually purchase all the memory and it started to go down a little bit, but apparently it's still a major problem. It's definitely still a problem, but maybe with a light at the end of the tunnel? I'm sure the variability of it is a major problem. Maybe there's a light at the end of the tunnel now, but who knows who's going to screw something up any day now. Between us recording and this coming out, who knows what could happen? Speaking of companies not really talking to themselves, uh andrew do you want to take us through this google back button hijacking i am very passionate about this already because it's something that this feels like google made their own version of did they even test this and then realized it and they were like we should fix this so do you know what i've never heard the term before but back button hijacking is i think i understand it now yes i think everyone's dealt with it whether it's like clicked in your head of what's going on but essentially i had never heard of this before you explained it to me but then i explained it and you can like remember a time it's happened everyone's experienced yeah exactly it's like when you go to usually more sketchy websites the if you click in from like a google search result you realize that's not the page you want to be on and you click back and you wind up at the page you were at already and you click back again and you're still at the same page and click back again you're still at the same page if you wind up holding that back button you'll see this big because that's like when you show your whole history of back you'll notice there are like four or five pages between you and the search result you came from yeah and that's back button hijacking there's a bunch of different ways to do it it's a tool that was made for like actually really specific things i think someone described like if you're in gmail and you're inside of a email and you want to click back it should take you still to the gmail url but in your inbox instead that's what it's meant to do but people can do that to bring it to a super fast loading redirect direct linked so if you're on all recipes and you go back it's going to just whip you to all recipes again.

27:35You have to just like mash the back button like seven times. Or hold it down and come up. I mean I think most people just close the tab and start Google searching again because that's the easiest way of doing it and it is infuriating. So finally Google is now going to consider this a malicious practice and if it finds your website is partaking in those practices you could be listed as spam which will impact your performance in search results the funniest part of the whole release of this is they said they've noticed a rise in this behavior this has been going on for like 10 years there's no way now there's a rise in this behavior probably because less people are going to websites because it's all getting scraped from Google AM honestly probably Gemini started getting pissed when I was trying to back after scraping all the it kept scraping the same thing over and over again but like I'm not going to be mad late is better than never but this should have been fixed a really really long time ago but thank you for finally fixing

28:32Marques Brownlee:i guess i'm doing some spring cleaning you know yeah somebody in like the 70th google building on the corner logged in one day and was like i could fix this or you found like that post-it note that's buried on his desk that's like fix back button hijacking when did i write 12 years ago 12 years ago yeah yeah that's it but thank you speaking of something that has gotten an update that I'd hoped got updated a long time ago. Yes. Yeah. Yes. New GoPros. This is like a blast. You guys remember GoPro? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're still around. They helped you go. Yeah. They, well, cause they've been, their lunch has been eaten by Insta360 and DJI in the past couple of years, but they're still around making action cameras, making 360 cameras.

29:15Marques Brownlee:And they came out with this new camera called the Mission One. It's kind of interesting. We love these tiny action cameras for being in the corner of a car or being in like the mounted on the outside of a car or like a small space where it's kind of a crash cam. If it falls off, it's fine, but it's just sort of an extra angle that you can get because this camera is so small and versatile. But the quality is not that great, typically. It's good enough, but it's not amazing. So the Mission 1 is a new camera that is a larger one-inch sensor, and the entire thing is built around being a cinema-grade, like, proper camera.

29:52Marques Brownlee:Now, all of this is dependent on the footage actually looking good, but this is everything I ever wanted from a GoPro. It frees them up to keep making the Hero like an action cam, a crash cam. But now with this larger sensor, they've made, like, an interchangeable lens mount version. They've made a bunch of accessories where you can, you know, plug in extra memory. You can plug in microphones. You can pair all sorts of things to the GoPro. It makes it a much more, I don't want to say RX100, but like a cinema version of an RX100. It's rigable. Like you can rig it up to a cage. They showed me a bunch of accessories for it, a cage for it, a bunch of underwater shooting accessories.

30:31Marques Brownlee:It'll shoot 8K, open gate. So the whole sensor, it's a really convincing set of specs. so I would like to use it and verify that the footage actually looks better. Yeah. But they showed me some footage that they essentially, they've rigged this thing up like with huge lenses and a cage and mics and everything and shot like really good looking stuff with it. So I'm curious. Yeah. My attention. The one that most people are interested in is the ILS, which is interchangeable lens system version. It takes micro four thirds lenses, which is very interesting. Now, obviously, micro four thirds lenses are the small, pretty much the smallest lenses that you can get you know and uh so they are you know still small but on a gopro they they still look huge yeah yeah so yeah it's weird i don't know when i would want to rig up my my example of when this could be awesome is we shoot inside a car and the car windshield has like a super low rake so you can't fit like a komodo or something in there you could fit a little gopro with like a 70 mil or a 50 mil lens on it yeah could be great i guess so maybe it's interesting but the weird thing about it is that the lens mount for microsoft four thirds that they have doesn't have any contacts so it can't do autofocus yes which is very weird if you have to have all the cameras that just focusing at infinity or focusing at a very specific distance yeah which is that kind of sucks that's true of the komodo i mean the komodo has autofocus but we always just manual focus yeah but at least you're like carrying that camera and you can just like rack focus but if this is mounted in a car on the side of a car yeah yeah in the corner you have to like set the focus very specifically and then what happens if it like changes and i don't know it's strange yeah is there focus peaking are there like assists in the camera probably most likely and they'll they have like a lot of very capable software things already built in so i wouldn't be shocked if they added more over time but like i think it shoots 8k 60 or 4k 240 yeah uh which there's not a lot of other cameras that do that period i'm I'm kind of interested because as someone who really likes shooting vintage 16mm and 8mm film lenses, the Micro Four Thirds standard is really easy to adapt vintage glass to.

32:45And if the GoPro has a one-inch sensor, this might actually be the best vintage glass rig possible. Could be interesting. Especially if there are focus assists because it's really hard to find affordable Micro Four Thirds cameras that have focus assists. Yeah, pretty different. I think I saw something that said this is the first time in 22 years that they have released a GoPro that is not under the hero line, which is crazy. So it's a big jump for them. They needed it because they were on the verge of bankruptcy. So hopefully this is successful for them. They're also releasing a new wireless lav mic set that looks almost identical to the DJI ones.

33:24I think it's a necessity they have to do that. Yeah. Like that is the best part about the action cam is that you can just plug those dji mics and like this turns into a camera that you could buy starting out trying to make some sort of a youtube channel or content this

33:39Marques Brownlee:could be an awesome vlog camera all this is the asterisk of like does the footage actually look good but this could be a great vlog camera yeah maybe yeah the sad part about these mics is that they do not do 32-bit float like the dji ones do so got it so many so many asterisks necessary there yeah I forget the exact thing but it's just like all of those wireless mics are like we do 32-bit float if you stand on one leg and put your hand over your head and use them in exactly this workflow yeah it is like got it yeah it's it's nonsense okay well yeah that should be interesting I mean did you already got them in right I saw you took a photo so they brought them here they showed them to us uh I got to handle them for an hour and then they left and they were like trust me we'll send one so i'm like yes please let me try them i want to shoot 8k 60 log 30 fps open gate in my in a handheld camera like that just sounds awesome yeah so hopefully soon i can't wait for the autofocus video with you using these yeah i can shoot an autofocus video with it i can't wait till ellis is walking around brooklyn with his vintage glass on the newest gopro taking photos when you get I'll order a micro four thirds to C mount adapter and I'll 3D print something goofy and I will make the vintage GoPro camera.

34:55It seems perfect for that.

34:56Marques Brownlee:They showed me a shutter accessory. Oh, no, they showed me they had adapted to PL mount and put a massive cinema lens on it for some reason. It's like a 30x prop factor. It's some insane. What do you mean for some reason? That's awesome. if you're gonna rig that much up you might as well throw like a komodo in a 28 their own meter is gonna be like a 120 equivalent on that thing do we know the price no we don't um i can do my best guessing job i think it'll be under a thousand i think it'll be over the current a current gopro post tariff pricing is like 400 something dollars right this might be the greatest vintage glass camera dude if if straight up if there's like focus peaking and magnification in for like, oh my God.

35:43Yeah. So you don't have to buy it. The Vibster era has peaked. Yeah. If you want to do this with an actual Micro Four Thirds camera, like you don't get those features until you're spending like$900 on a used camera, which is like, kind of defeats the point. Anyway, sorry. Another quick story. Google randomly released this new Spotlight for Windows application, which is actually quite cool. It's a little floating window that pops up when you use a keyboard shortcut. Recast. And you can ask it for context about your screen. It can do screen recordings. You can use Google Lens to sort of drag your cursor over something and it'll Google it for you.

36:20It can access files on your computer and it can access files on your Google Drive all at once. So it's kind of like this cool hybrid, like on device and also in cloud, little pop-up box that you could just call at any time. dare I say this is just a this is the better version of Copilot is like what I was thinking. I was gonna say this is kind of fire I don't have a Chromebook but I want

36:45Marques Brownlee:most of the nice parts I mean more people use like Google Drive than use OneDrive. Exactly. And it only works on Windows so There's like Google Cowork like Claude Cowork but Google-ified Well it can't really do things for you But you said it could like reach into Drive and localify. Yeah it can search Oh it can only search? So you can't like copy it from one place to another like manipulate i think you can can you tell it to like rename a bunch of files in your downloads folder that's like the classic it doesn't have like autonomous like oh it can't do things for you autonomously when i say like you can access those files it's like you you do a search and it's like a universal search that goes between your desktop and also your google drive so it's still handy it's interesting um and it's quite cool and it's cool that just like floats to the side and you can just like invoke it with a keyboard shortcut so yeah i don't know why they made this or why they made this now super random but it's very cool and i wish they had it have you ever tried to search for a local file on a windows computer that's why they made it yeah just why in 2026 that's been a problem for like 30 years can they make search in gmail better yeah i was gonna say this company is yeah that's really bad at some search yeah i you know what i really want on mobile version of Gmail there's the all mail function they do not have that on the desktop and you have to like keep changing your accounts over and over again it's so annoying anyway I would love that unless you have side by side browser windows open like a king like a king I want to hit you with the dumbest headline I saw hit me you all talked about it before I was trying to keep this a secret but it sounds like half of you are this so struggling shoe retailer Allbirds makes bizarre pivot from shoes to AI stock explodes more than 700%.

38:27700 %? Did you hear about this this morning when they were talking about it? Are you serious? Okay, cool. That is the dumbest thing. So Allbirds is pivoting from shoes to AI. They're going to sell off their shoe assets to American Exchange Group for$39 million. They quote, they are going to pivot its business to AI compute infrastructure with a long-term vision to become a fully integrated GPU as a service. GPU AAS.

38:52Marques Brownlee:This is... Sorry. There's more. Was this April Fool's Day at this game? No. Everything I said had to have a line that said, this is real. It says, an AI native cloud solutions provider in connection with this pivot, the company anticipates changing its names to New Bird AI. New Bird. This reads strikingly like an April Fool's Day joke. Well, this really reads like an AI. Look at this stock chart. Wow. Holy crap. So they also. It's not the onion. Because of this pivot, they proposed to their shareholders if they could remove all references to the company being operated for the environmental conservation public benefit.

39:27Oh, my. Imagine saying that out loud. Now, are you sure it's not the onion? The onion's like we're out of a shop. Crazy. Wait, so they're selling the shoe company? They're selling all their shoe assets. To who? American Exchange Group. The shoe assets, just like the shoes and the designs. I'm assuming the rest of the shoes. Are they still going to be sold under Allbirds? They're changing their name to Newbird AI. Yes, their shoes will be Oldbirds.

39:54Marques Brownlee:This is the biggest f*** it game plan I've ever seen. They thought that they were going to be a tech company because they were selling products to tech people, but it wasn't really tech. And then they've just been in Silicon Valley so long, you're like, f*** it. From the articles I read, it basically was like, our evaluation when we IPO'd was like$4 billion, and now it's so, so, so, so, so much less than that that they're like, we need to do something else because we're IPO and we have to please share. They IPO'd at 1 ,000, wait, that can't be right. That's$1 million a share. I don't know enough about the stock market, but I do think$4 billion is maybe a little bit silly for a shoe company.

40:33Marques Brownlee:That is so gross. I mean, dude, do you remember when Allbirds first came out? They were so popular. They were so high. I mean, yes. Yeah, but they were like, They were going to have$2.2 to$4 billion when they IPO'd in 2021. I'm just Googling how much Nike is worth right now. $67 billion. Dude.

40:54Marques Brownlee:Okay, I guess that is pretty high. Dude, Allbirds are everyone. They were so hyped. Everyone loves them. Are the shoes on sale right now? Apparently through American Exchange. Whatever. That's crazy. Well, rip to it. Your new Allbirds come with a GP. Actually, they don't. You have to pay with a GPU so they can put it in their infrastructure. People still say we're not in a bubble. Let's see how this goes. Let's see how this goes for them. As may age incredibly poorly. I mean, honestly, maybe GoPro should have done the same thing. You know what I mean? It's like if you're going to sink, you might as well become an AI company before you sink.

41:26I guess so. Yeah. Just paint AI over your company and hope that it changes. They already have the first two letters. They got the G and the P, you know, in GoPro. We're just the U. GoPro Universe. GoPro Universe. Yeah. Wow. That could be their - Good for them. their online crypto. I guess.

41:43Marques Brownlee:Yeah. That's crazy. Get your bag. Their company's not going to die. The straight up just asking if we can remove all references that we care about the environment is a wild thing to put out in the public. You can't really say you do when you just run a GPU farm. It's not really compatible. What if you like heated your pool with it or something then you know technically you're removing. Isn't that what Linus did in one of his videos? I think he he cooled his the other way around. He cooled his computers off with the pool water, correct? It would be crazy to heat your pool with it. That's the same thing.

42:17Then the pool water goes back into the pool and it's warmer. The difference it would make to the pool versus the difference is making it in the GPU temperatures. It depends on how many computers you got. Damn. Heat the oceans. Alright. We're going to take a break. We'll be back with some updates from the last year that I'll have lots of updates that we can tell you about so it's gonna be fun but first you know what doesn't get updated that we do every single week trivia dude guys we're pivoting the podcast guys we all know gopro for its hero and now mission line of little tiny cameras but from 2016 to 2018 gopro briefly entered this adjacent product category what is it What was your timeline?

43:072016 to 2018. It didn't go well and they stopped.

43:11Marques Brownlee:Oh, I think I might have had that product. GoPro entered? GoPro entered. And then promptly left. Shoes. Yeah. All birds. GPU compute. Huh. Okay. All right. GPUs. Well, we'll think about it. It's a blast from the past, kind of like the rest of this episode. Yeah. Answers will be at the end like usual. We'll be right back.

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46:10Marques Brownlee:All right, welcome back. Welcome to this segment where we mostly talk about things that may sound familiar because they're updates to things that we've previously talked about. This segment is called Circling Back. Wow, wow, wow. Ari, my last conversation. We're not even sure if it's going to be a segment, but that's too good of a name, so it's now a segment. Even if it's just a one-time segment. For my last email. All right. First up, we talked about Kaby Lame's near billion-dollar deal. Something about he was selling his company and his image for unlimited use to turn into an AI-likeness content generator version of himself or something for a billion dollars.

46:54Marques Brownlee:we were a little skeptical because they promised to make like hundreds of millions of dollars off of his likeness in like no time turned out we were right to be skeptical they essentially paid him in stock and then obviously all those headlines go out the stock price goes up and then shortly after crashes and is I don't want to say worthless now but I think you understand the risk of an all stock deal when they're promising you billions of dollars like that? It was a rug pull. It's very similar to what happens in crypto coins where they basically IPO'd it and then they merged his image as a new company and then a ton of fans bought a ton of stock because they're like, oh, they're going to make hundreds of billions of dollars.

47:38And then all of a sudden the price completely collapsed, which means that the company probably had most of the stock. And probably sold it all.

47:48Marques Brownlee:Yeah. and now Kabilame doesn't own his likeness or have any of the stock no but he might have made the money we're not really sure that's the tough part about all of this he might have been the rug puller it is a weird thing there were lots of companies you don't know for sure but lots of companies tag on to people with a lot of influence and then rug pull under them because then that person with influence as the public facing person gets to they get all they get shit on. Yeah, nobody's talking about rich sparkle holdings. Yeah, even though they probably should be. Everything's a scam these days.

48:23Pretty much. Everything's a scam. If someone offers you a billion dollars

48:26Marques Brownlee:to your likeness, maybe think a little bit more about that. If you're getting offered more than the highest contract in the MLB, there's probably something wrong with that. He does have more followers than that person. True. Is that... Wansodo. You're thinking Shohei. Yeah, Shohei Otani. Was Juan Soto? Sports. Juan Soto? Yeah. 765 million? I only know because I reference it every time a company gets sold. No, no, no. Over 10-ish years? I thought Shohei was a billion. Was Shohei's bigger? But didn't Shohei's have like a bunch? I don't know. Juan Soto's was after maybe? I just use Juan Soto's because there's lots of tech companies that get sold for less money than Juan Soto's making.

49:09That's crazy. And that's hilarious. Wow. Juan Soto should buy Apple. Speaking of scams. as you said um yeah nzxt and their flex pc rentals do you remember that at all yes that's a fun one big gamers nexus yes investigation into this exactly if you really want everything that happened here there's about seven hours of footage from gamers nexus that is really really interesting but really quick tldr 2024 nzxt was renting out computers on a subscription based uh basis the weird thing about it was one when you've you didn't buy the computer outright when you got to the price of the computer that was crazy some of the times you would switch from buying the computer to renting the computer on their website it would change the specs without really noticing so you'd get a worse computer and then they had a bunch of uh like promotions and integrations where i don't know if they told the people to say this but somebody was saying something like you could rent this computer and then win a fortnight tournament and then buy a computer like it's it's like one of those like it's basically making you money you're losing money by not doing it Really, really sketchy.

50:17Borderline scammy, if not a total scam. But they just reached a settlement for three point four million dollars, I think. Three point four five million dollars. Essentially, in the lawsuit, it's saying that people who are getting collected debt from which apparently some of the is in except apparently some of the instances are like people actually paid and they still have debt collectors coming at them. So it just sounds like this, the company that they're working with, I forget the name in here, is doing it really poorly. So some people who are paying, they're going to get money back from the settlement.

50:52And then some people who were paying for over two years, they're saying get to own the computer outright. Yeah, that's good. And the weird thing is, though, NCX is still offering some rental programs. They've changed a couple of things in it, but it still seems really sketchy. Don't rent a computer. It's stupid. it also if you're renting a computer the computers change so much that's going to be like obsolete by the time yeah you don't even get to pay it off i don't even know what i mean that's rent a center's entire you know entire point that's the reason that was basically a scam too yeah so yeah go watch the gamer sexus video for the whole thing on this but um nzxt that sucks this is extra lame because they were tar i mean if you're talking about you could win a fortnight tournament and then buy your own computer they're probably kind of targeting 15 year olds oh yeah you know it's like kids who probably don't have enough money to buy a gaming pc and then they entice you with this idea of like you could win this thing that you play all the time and then you could buy it yourself and you don't have any money and like that's super predatory and also by doing that is like when you look at a computer at first that's maybe close to your price range maybe it's like 1200 then you go to the rental version which is showing a monthly payment then you're like oh i can bump up the specs on this a little bit it's only changing my rental price a couple dollars a month and then it's not that far off from like car payments at this point like tacking on extra trim levels and stuff so but when you're targeting fortnite players which we all know is a certain age group yeah you're targeting the most vulnerable part of that yeah very lame but good that um this lawsuit went through so i'm glad that people are getting the money back agreed do you want to do the uh yeah yeah next one we this was only a few weeks ago that this happened but um you know things in this administration change very quickly we didn't know why but the pentagon decided to ban all routers from being imported into the u.s in the future uh that were not made in america which is really so all routers so all routers yeah practically maybe not cisco but they're probably still assembled in vietnam or something um yeah so we don't really know why but just today the fcc gave net or i guess yesterday the FCC gave Netgear conditional approval to import future routers, modems, and gateways into the U.S.

53:08through October 1st of 2027. Netgear has not announced any plans to bring its manufacturing to the United States. And the Pentagon has stated that such devices do not pose risk to the U.S. national security. So Pete Hegseth, why did you ban them in the first place? Tell me that. You know what's funny? Netgear was one of the main targets of the Chinese hacking group attack. yeah that was because a bunch of people's did a really bad job of updating the security issues with it but netgear's like the whole the the router that got hacked in the whole thing they're referencing for doing the banning list right and they said they wasn't like explicitly netgear's fault because it was some like isp firmware thing that happened to go through the router i think it was just a lacking of updating a security measure right the routers right um so i'm not saying this was a bribe, but I'm not saying it wasn't a bribe.

54:04You're not saying. I'm not not saying. Allegedly. Do you know what email I did get this morning? What? From Netgear. It says, Netgear is the first retail consumer router company to receive conditional approval from the FCC. And then a whole thing about how they're the first ever retail customer with conditional approval. That was two weeks ago when this first changed. Yeah, the FCC called for a stronger safety and security standards. This aligns with our security first approach. And that's like when businesses like put outside their business established 2026 and you're like, okay, that doesn't really help.

54:39Yeah. So yeah, the funny thing about that, most people that got that email probably don't even know what happened. They probably don't even know that the routers got banned because you've got to be pretty in the weeds to know that the Pentagon decided to ban routers that were coming from not the United States. So we'll see if this extends to more router companies. it would be very strange if Netgear was the only company allowed to sell routers in the United States in the future given they are probably one of the larger router manufacturers in the US unless you're a big gamer that can afford this and can buy like an Asus, you know, whatever.

55:13The spider one. Yeah, the one that looks like a spider. So, I don't know. It's weird. All right, we got one more that is a far callback to a very early episode. Yeah, but I think arguably one of the biggest things despite it sounding like it has absolutely nothing to do with tech. John Deere just settled for a$99 million lawsuit over right to repair. Which was one of our first ever bonus episodes. Was it really? Right to repair episode where we talked to John Deere and a couple of right to repair advocates. Yeah, John Deere is like this thing where in the tech world doesn't feel like it has anything to do with us, but they are just right to repair hates John Deere because of all the stuff that they do.

55:53so this is obviously much larger $99 million of farmers in a class action lawsuit that accuses them of preventing farmers or mechanics from being able to repair their equipment with the new lawsuit John Deere is going to make repair resources this is where I was a little confused available for 10 years based on a license or subscriptions which sounds like not the best way of doing this I'm not totally sure how that's working out but they have agreed to allow owners and shops to run diagnostics on equipment while in offline mode by the end of the year, which is huge because previously what you had to do if you were a farmer who had a giant tractor break is bring it to an authorized dealer to get it fixed, which is probably very far away from your farm, from your farm.

56:37And the equipment you're bringing in is probably heavy. And it has to be during business hours. It has to be like there have to be people that know how to fix it. It's probably going to take them at least a week to fix it. And I remember talking to some farmers about this and they were like it would just throw like the most basic system error that like i should be able to fix with a wrench but because i i can't access the firmware i can't do anything to it and it was a it was a whole thing yeah and you need to get it like towed to the nearest retail yeah it's kind of crazy but the lawsuit was filed in 2022 and while the cinnamon's not perfect this still in the right to repair world has got to be one of the biggest wins whether it's a perfect when or not probably one of the biggest wins in the battle of right to repair yeah i'm curious what the details of that like subscription to be able to fix your thing my first thought was do just some different non-authorized retailers can they like buy a subscription to access different parts if they're not the owner so like maybe different because it mentions mechanics so maybe there are mechanics that aren't authorized and maybe they can somehow pay to have subscriptions or licenses for repairing equipment so it doesn't have to be only specific ones yeah not totally sure but yeah this is one of those things that you don't really realize has been like completely upended by technology you know tractors and farming in general have been like they use a lot of ai stuff now to detect what's a weed and what's a crop and uh it's to the point where like you kind of have to use this stuff because if you're using traditional equipment it's going to be way, way, way behind in the amount of stuff that you can harvest.

58:12But at the same time, you have no control. You're basically selling your soul to a giant farming company that allows you to use this stuff and you can't fix it yourself. It's like a catch-22. It's very annoying and hopefully fixed soon. And I hope the legal precedent extends to other industries. I've been hearing a lot that things like cement mixers or weed whackers are also slightly different because it's not like they're using AI, but it's the same thing where it's like there's no reason these things are not repairable other than the companies who make them refuse to sell spare parts at a fair price.

58:49Yeah. Yeah, sounds about right. I mean, we saw a couple of years ago Apple started selling their own parts repair kits. And at first it was like a large, large, heavy box that made it very difficult to use, but they've gotten better over time. So we saw some New York laws that were passed a couple of years ago about Right to Prepare. So I think we're getting there. More precedents that get set, the better. That episode was so long ago, I don't even think Ellis was here yet. I don't think so. Right to Prepare Deep Dive was like episode three of Video Waveform. That episode is so I wasn't even born yet.

59:24Actually, was that even Video Waveform? Or was it still on? I went to Double Check. It was radio. I think it was the first ever bonus episode. You guys published that episode by speaking into a can. I just went straight to Megapod.

59:39Marques Brownlee:Marquez, you typed breaking news in. Breaking news! Breaking news! Breaking news fish, that's a hilarious reference. I just got an email that Gemini for Mac just got released. It is essentially the same thing that we were talking about earlier for Windows, but it's also now on the Mac, so if you go to Gemini.com Gemini.google.com It's the same thing. That's such a funny URL. Yeah, gemini.google.com. Pancakes.bacon.com. It's essentially like it's the same thing. Replace your keyboard shortcut. So like right now you can replace Spotlight with whatever alternative. You can have this replace Spotlight and then jump in and access your files or your Google Drive or your whatever.

1:00:22Marques Brownlee:And it's your chat bot and it's your Gemini or desktop. Google's going to Sherlock Spotlight. Oh, my God. Well, what is the shortcut to activate this? Do you have it installed yet? I do have it installed already and the shortcut is customizable, but by default, your mini chat shortcut is option space and your full chat shortcut is option shift space. But I think I can change that. Yeah, I can just change that to whatever. I just want it to be space. I want it. That would be crazy. I want to change it to control because then I could just use all of them. I'll have command space for spotlight, option space for Raycast and then control space for Google Gemini.

1:00:59It's also funnier because control is generally the hot key for Windows. Yeah. And use the Gemini thing. I can't wait to be really old and talking to my great grandkids and say something like, I remember when Google Sherlocked Spotlight and also turned Raycast into Clubhouse. And they'd be like, oh man, you really need to be in a home. It's time for a nap. All right, Grandpa. That's a thing that happened, I swear. Back in the AI wars. I talked about it on a podcast. Dad, what's a podcast? I'm sure, Grandpa, it's time to take a nap. It was an audio feed. It was syndicated really simply. You joke, but you will be telling them about this.

1:01:41Marques Brownlee:You mean Spotify? Yeah. No, they don't even. Spotify will be long gone. They're going to rebrand to a GPU company at some point. There will just be like one giant data center somewhere in the desert that makes one continuous song with AI. and you just sort of tune in to see what's going on with the song. It's like perpetual stew with music. Oh, I hate that. Someone backcode this. I want that. I'm surprised you haven't already, Ellis. This is like, I remember like so long ago, I met someone who was at a VC firm that was like working on this exact project. Or it wasn't this exact project, but the idea was like, what if you could turn one song into an entire day's listening experience with generative AI?

1:02:23So like they would add guitar solos. And then one idea they pitched was they were like, yeah, at one point, like the music will sort of get really quiet and it'll be like a podcast about the song. And it's like that guy's listening to this episode and he's like, it did sound that stupid. I thought it was cool. This was like 2017, like like very early trend before AIs could generate any of these things. So it was very like pie in the sky. And I remember being like, that sounds kind of interesting. And now that they can, I'm like, oh, my God. Before we move on, I just want to say, while we're talking about AI music, I was in a coffee shop last weekend.

1:03:01That's crazy, dude. I know. Was it outside? It was an indoor building, I think. Interesting. Listened to a song, I was like, interesting song. Next song, I was like, this coffee shop is pretty middle of the road. And then that song died down, and I just heard, okay, Michael. I'm glad you enjoyed that. And I was like, no, they're not. They're using the Spotify DJ in the coffee shop. What's up, David? That's great. Quick update. Daft Punk, bring it home. You can make control space the shortcut. Sick. So if you want, you can live this life. You got Claude on one. You got Gemini on the other. Tap, tap.

1:03:46That was a very Linux coded sentence of you because it's command space on Mac OS. Anyway, are we ready for trivia? I use Arch by the way. I am ready for trivia. Let's get it. I need the points. Trivia question number two. Earlier, I don't remember what we were talking about. We were talking about temperature in Celsius. Oh, it was the bug. It was the bug. That's what it was. So, here's your question. 32 degrees Celsius is what in Fahrenheit? That's so obvious.

1:04:16Marques Brownlee:I'm glad I know that one. The nearest tenth of the decimal without going over. Oh wait. Yeah, you guys are backwards. You said 32 Celsius? 32 Celsius. Oh, whoops. Okay. I'll think. Everyone in other countries is yelling at us right now. No, because they have to know Fahrenheit. It's just the other way around. I think 32 Celsius is enough to kill a bear with the amount of caffeine. But maybe that's just me. Nice. How much? How much caffeine would kill a bear? I did do a lot of research on how much caffeine would kill a person. Cocaine bear? Because I had a crazy experience. Someone asked this question on Reddit word for word four weeks ago.

1:05:02How much caffeine would I need to kill a bear with a heart attack? What kind of bear? Yeah, brown bear or black bear? They're very different bears. Or polar bear. Like a man. The top comment is 200. They say, first of all, it would die of a seizure, not a heart attack. second of all 200 cups for a black bear 400 cups for a grizzly bear assuming this random Reddit comment you know a good way to tell the difference between what? black bear and a grizzly bear if it's alive after 200 cups of coffee

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1:07:13while supplies last. Exclusion Supplies to Home Depot dot com slash price match for details. Alright, welcome back. I have a sports question that Marquez is going to explain in tech terms which is kind of weird because it feels like the basis of the question already kind of is within tech itself. There's also a reason in the beginning Marquez said it's a sports related thing and not a golf related thing because I'm sure most people wouldn't make it this far into the podcast if they knew it was about golf. Too bad you're here, don't go away. Okay, so I saw Do you mean regular golf or ball golf?

1:07:43Ball golf. Okay, what? Not disc golf. Or? Wait. Not the superior. What is regular golf then? Ball golf. The original. No, no, no. Sorry. You sold us out. We're disc golf fans here. Oh, I knew that. We? So regular is disc is what you're saying. That's the end. You're saying it's superior. That was the joke. I feel like this is not even. Please just continue. Okay, so. Yeah. The original tweet was actually from Andrew Martinik. And he said, imagine being this crazy about your custom 3D printed irons and losing in every serious tournament to guys who don't do any of that and just play with normal equipment.

1:08:15And it's referencing a tweet about Bryson DeChambeau and his 3D printed 5 iron where a reporter asked, are you satisfied with the 5? He said, yeah, I mean, I only hit it once today. And the reporter said, how long does it take to make? Where he replied, prints in eight hours, machines, there are three or four hours. Then you have to cut grooves in it and a bunch of other stuff so you can have something within a day and a half. If it's 3D printed, is it still made of iron? I'm so confused. It's called a five iron. About this. I mean, honestly, I am confused about the material of the golf course.

1:08:45I thought you said this was about sports. Wow. This was at the Masters this weekend, right? The disrespect is crazy, yeah. Which is like the minor league of golf?

1:08:54Marques Brownlee:Yeah, no. It's the one with the really cheap food. Yes. Okay. Yes. Okay. I'm glad you went there. So in order to understand why this is weird, you need to understand a little bit more about golf and about Bryson. Golf, you have a set of 18 clubs you're allowed to carry, and every club is typically a different loft and different length. So the higher the ball goes, the more lofted it is and the shorter the club. Which is the angle of the head. Yeah. Right, okay. So a nine iron will have a lot of loft and will be shorter. And you go all the way to like a four iron, and it will be not very lofted to go farther and the club is longer.

1:09:30When you say the club is, you mean the head is shorter or longer or the length of like where the handle is? The length of the club. Okay, so every iron has a different angle and has a different physical length from ground to hands. Yes. Okay.

1:09:43Marques Brownlee:And that's to give you the smooth transition from the shortest clubs all the way to the longest club in the bag, which is the driver, which has the least loft, longest club, goes the farthest, biggest swing. Can I ask a stupid question? Go ahead. Which is the one that I use for mini golf? You have a putter for mini golf, which is the shortest club. They're all putters. And it goes the shortest distance. It happens to have basically no loft. typically actually has one degree of fluff but we'll ignore that so uh bryson is a bit of an unusual golfer bryson has this history of the last couple years uh of really tweaking his clubs and trying to optimize his swing because the best golfers in the world are the most consistent golfers in the world and he is the only one as far as i know who thought you know why do all my clubs have to be different lengths i'm gonna have the same grip and the same length on every single one of my irons, which doesn't sound that weird.

1:10:35Marques Brownlee:But when you put the longest and shortest irons next to each other, you'll realize that that's really unusual. His shortest irons are the same length as his longest iron so that he can have the same swing with all of his irons. Why are they different lengths in the first place? They're all different lengths in the first place because to hit it further, you want a longer lever. So less loft and longer lever, it all just kind of smoothly graduates you to the longest club in the bag. But he's decided to just have the same exact length for all of his irons, which is highly unusual. and he's the only one who would do this kind of thing because he's kind of the mad scientist of the golf world of being willing to try and tinker with new equipment.

1:11:08Marques Brownlee:So he's been one of the best golfers in the world, debatably, but for the last couple of years. The Masters, as you point out, very big tournament. Maybe the biggest tournament. If you're a golfer, I'm understating this. It is the biggest tournament, obviously. He goes to the Masters and apparently one of this new things he's trying is a 3D printed 5-iron specifically. Why is it called 5-iron? So a 9-iron, an 8-iron, a 7-iron, a 6-iron, 5-iron are all next to each other in the bag. The 5-iron is a very specific club that typically goes the same distance every single time. It's slightly shorter than the 4-iron, slightly longer than the 6-iron.

1:11:48Marques Brownlee:For some reason, just as 5-iron is the one that's 3D printed. Do you know the specifics of like how? I don't. I would imagine it's a lot more complicated than the 3D printers were picturing, which are like plastic and obviously not. This is definitely still metal. The thing also about making clubs for a tournament like this is every tournament, every club has to be legally allowed and tested. So it has to pass USGA regulations. And so it has to meet a certain set of requirements for that. It has to have grooves. That's all this stuff. Assuming, well, he played with it. So he got this 3D printed club approved to be just special enough for this.

1:12:26Marques Brownlee:The other thing about Bryson is he has a YouTube channel. He has big social media presence. And I love him, but he's very easy to make fun of because he's always messing with his equipment and has little tweaks with his driver and little tweaks with these clubs that have never been used before. He goes out to the Masters. He has a 3D printing club. He does not have a good time. He plays two not-that-great rounds and doesn't make the cut. So, of course, they ask him about this club. and uh you know when he's in a good mood he's willing to break down all of the fun interesting things about his clubs when he just missed the cut at the biggest hormone of the year with masters he's just like ah yeah it didn't didn't work it wasn't that good uh that's really actually the tech angle of this which is he literally tried to 3d print one of his clubs and make a specialized club just for this one tournament um what i think is even more interesting is the masters itself is the least tech of any golf tournament in the world.

1:13:22Marques Brownlee:And I wanted to conveniently use this to pivot to that. Okay. Which is, if you actually go to the Masters, it is the one sporting event on Earth, as far as I know, where smartphones are banned from the entire grounds the entire time. Isn't that the same with chess? Is that a sport? Well, okay, that was a thing that happened like a week or two ago. I don't think they're allowed on stage with the competitors. He's saying the entire event they're banned from? All of the audience, the patrons, all of the players, everyone there. Nobody's taking photos with their phones because they're banned. And so when you see photos of the Masters, it is a golfer hitting a shot, and everyone, instead of holding their phones, is just watching.

1:14:06Marques Brownlee:Wow. And it is just such a blast from the past and a really refreshing, weird, like, little piece of history every time they play the Masters. I give it a week until they're all wearing meta glasses. So that was one of the things that's actually come up is people are going to the Masters wearing those smart glasses. And everyone's going, hey, we got to protect Augusta and ban those glasses too. Like we really just need it to be as pure as possible. So that did come up quite a bit, but I think they will probably end up banning those glasses too. It is a little bit scary slash possibly cultish the way they protect that course.

1:14:40Marques Brownlee:because if you are a YouTuber, for example, YouTube Golf's gotten really big in the last couple years, you play all the biggest courses in the world. But if you go to play Augusta, no cameras allowed. And you sign an NDA and you can't talk about it. What? And it's like - You can't talk about the course? Yeah, you can't talk about the time that you played the course. And so there's no video evidence of it. And you sign these NDAs. It's like this really weird thing where you see it on TV. People there or something? You see it on TV. That's what it sounds like to me. Every year on TV, this course looks absolutely perfect.

1:15:12Marques Brownlee:The grass is the exact same shade of green as all the chairs that are on the course because they've matched those things. Like all of the scoreboards are in the exact same places every single year. It's this almost mythical course where if you ever do get the chance to go there, you don't have a camera with you. You don't have your phone. You just kind of have to take it in and experience it and go home. And that - Like the Stone Ages. Yeah. That's crazy. That's what you leave with. What is the benefit of that? Is it like to prevent cheating or something? Or they just want to keep this like aura?

1:15:43Marques Brownlee:It's just definitely creates a lot. It definitely just protects the integrity of the like historical nature of this. It's just the only original golf event left like that. Isn't there like extremely minimal ads? Like are there like six sponsors for the whole thing? Yes. So like the whole thing is just OG, OG. And the thing you brought up about the food, like the food is still the same prices that it was 50 years ago it's still a dollar for a hot dog like two bucks for an egg salad sandwich which is hilarious because people will go straight to the merch shop and spend a thousand dollars on shirts and hats and stuff because that's super limited but a two dollar hot dog so it's it is it is very much a blast for the past and i appreciate that about it even though i'm a tech person i i do want to go to the masters and just experience where is it it's in georgia yeah if anyone from there is listening your first video was about golf My first ever video was about golf.

1:16:35Marques Brownlee:Fun fact, I did get invited to go to this Masters, and I didn't because I wanted to be here on the pod with you guys. That's not the reason. That's the wrong choice, fuckers. I couldn't make it, but I hope I get invited next time because it looks sick. Can I go one more step off the rails into the most niche question possible? Yes. I probably could ask you this off the podcast, but since we're talking about golf anyways, I'm currently in a disc golf fantasy league, and we had a huge argument over the weekend over how to properly score things.

1:17:14Marques Brownlee:So if you miss the cut by a lot, you're going to have a worse day four. If you pick someone who barely misses the cut, then you only get penalized a little bit. That would scale, I think, properly. We can talk more about this later because I don't want to totally, but Beau, you're out there listening. There it is. Text Marquez and I. Oh, I think it's so cute. You think that's making it onto the podcast. Anyway, the Masters is great. I hope I get to go someday. Bryson is maybe the most unrelatable but also relatable golfer because I'm a tech person and he's also a YouTuber, so it's kind of a small world.

1:17:46He's relatable because when I do bad at things, I don't want to talk to anyone about it. That's facts. Yeah, totally reasonable. Super true. We all know that person who participates in a thing but is actually way more interested in doing some weird technical tweaky thing. But when I say we all know that person, I'm... we all know Alice

1:18:06Marques Brownlee:yeah anyway I think it's time for that last thing we do on every podcast going to the Masters I wish this is actually all recorded at the Masters so it has to be deleted and we signed that'd be wild would we be allowed to do a pod from the Masters with no cameras like just audio equipment I don't even would they allow that? I don't think so like this table on the green like six feet from the hole and they just have to golf around us while we're talking. That would be a live golf event. Oh my gosh. Guys, GoPro between 2016 and 2018 made a thing that was not a little tiny camera. I mean, yeah, it was not a little, it was not a hero and it was not a mission.

1:18:49I'm so excited for that little thing. What was it?

1:18:54Marques Brownlee:I feel like I should know this. What did they make? I think I have a solid educated guess. not a liquid educated guess bro no this can't come out of my fingers depending on what's in this podcast that's going to be really confusing I mean we did record that conversation Andrew's referencing a conversation we had before the podcast where we were discussing what five liquids we would have dispensed from each of our fingers which you will never hear yes I have a feeling this is going to make somebody mad this is probably Ellis or Adam all right who wants who wants to go first well they just i'm so mad at marquez's already i picked one that's probably not the answer you want but maybe also technically correct they made an underwater housing for the gopro not what i was the original gopros needed waterproof housing correct exactly they sure did this was not the answer so that's just part of the action camera isn't it probably a product that gopro made that's not the camera but it is am i that am i that pedantic with these questions?

1:20:00Marques Brownlee:Let's see what the other answers are. Really? I might be the most correct. Let's see what they say. My theory was GoPro makes a bunch of stuff for people who do action sports that generally wear a helmet so maybe they made some sort of headphones that work well with helmets. That's really interesting but I don't think they ever made headphones. Mine is obviously not true because I covered phones for like 15 years and I don't remember this but I put phones. You don't remember the GoPro phone? look I don't know they might have done some weird collab with some I don't know my two or something weirder phones I was referencing the GoPro Karma the drone drone we did do a video on that I knew it we did yeah okay oh come on guys you can't be mad that I'm not giving a drone is a camera though that's why I was like when I was like it wasn't a little tiny camera but it kind of is a little tiny camera Gotcha.

1:20:57Quick update on the score. Marquez with 21 after that incorrect answer. Andrew with 22 after getting that one wrong. And David with 25 after not getting the correct answer. Thanks. Okay, Mr. Thesaurus. Next question. 32 degrees Celsius is what in Fahrenheit? I'm accepting the answer to the nearest tenth of a decimal point without going over. Can we just do delta? Nope. It's so easy. I never said it was easy. I never said that. Both of them were just backwards.

1:21:32Marques Brownlee:I was wrong. That was my original question. Can you say it one more time? Now I'm confused. 32 degrees Celsius is what in Fahrenheit? Okay. Do you remember the formula? Oh, wait. I don't remember the formula. I remember part of the formula. Oh, I wish. Flip him and read. What do you got? Oh, is there a decimal in your number? Yes. I'm sorry. That's a decimal. Oh, thank God. That's a fair question. You're actually answering Kelvin. Okay. Mark has you first. I said 98.6 Oh I was going to say that's a really good guess because we're talking about body temperature That is a really good guess. I wrote 101.5 That's like a radio station.

1:22:07It is. A really bad one in New Jersey. They're all bad. Losers New Jersey is home to one of the nation's greatest radio stations. I'm talking about WMFU okay or WFMU that's it. WFMU. Don't talk smack about New Jersey radio WUPH? WFMU? Never mind It's okay. I like 96.9, the eagle out of Sacramento, California. Classic rock station. All right, David, what'd you put? I put 74 degrees. Wrong, but you get the points because you didn't go over. Is it just under Marquesas? So I wrote in the bottom how previously we talked about how the 82 degrees Fahrenheit felt like 28 degrees Celsius. So I was trying to go with an approximation with that.

1:22:48Well, that was completely wrong. Well, I'm assuming you were still basing it off of the 82. Maybe not exactly, but a slightly different temperature. Because of the wind factor. Marquez had all the right digits just in the wrong order. It was 89.6. Oh. Damn, I went high. I just want to say strikes again. Okay, isn't the calculation like times 5 ninths plus 12 or something? Degrees in Fahrenheit minus 32 times 5 ninths gives you Celsius.

1:23:19Marques Brownlee:Got it. So you have to do that backwards to get there. So times nine fifths minus 32? Just for that, I'm never using WhatsApp. Wait, what? Why? We should just Google it. Anyway. Why? Yeah. Because Celsius people don't. Celsius people. Celsius people use it. Oh, you know, everyone else. Thanks for referring to non-Americans as Celsius people and WhatsApp. WhatsApp users are telling me I'm wrong. you know you've never been more right thank you for watching and listening to this episode of the golf podcast ball golf podcast the ball golf podcast the original golf obviously yeah we'll be back for more in April still April fools see you next time wait for me do you do it nope here I'll do it like I was

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