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1:27take a quick break and suddenly there's just like a ton just piles it's also that time of year so i guess i shouldn't be surprised uh in today's episode we're gonna go through let's see the the thought of the zenphone disappearing crossed everybody's mind for various reasons uh also we have our first confirmation about the cybertruck event a new smartwatch leak from nothing a weird playstation portable device and of course something of a leak from google doesn't happen often but we have a bit of sneak peek of some google stuff so we're gonna talk about all of that but first something completely unrelated to all of that.

2:00Look under your seats. Everybody look under your seats. Audio listeners, look under your seats. But not if you're driving. Keep your eyes on the road. What you're looking at is, for audio listeners, a bunch of boxes that we're about to take out the box. What it looks like is just a regular Shure SM7B box, but if you look carefully on the side, there's a colorware seal, which means, it can only mean one thing, that these are customized Shure SM7Bs for the podcast from Colorware. If you're an audio listener and you don't know what a Shure SM7B is, it's a microphone. You've seen it, trust me. If you're an audio listener, use your mind's eye to envision what this looks like.

2:43We're going to unbox them live on the podcast. I don't know if we're going to set them up. Do you know when they started doing these? I know they were doing the MV7 as the USB version. and they were doing that for a while. And then I saw this and posted about it and then our friends at Colorware were like, we got you. Did we buy these or did they hook us up? They hooked us up. Whoa, Colorware. Dang. You didn't have to go that far. I appreciate you. Oh, wait. Whoa! Oh, that's so sick. Wait, that's so sick. I didn't know that. Me neither. Okay, hold on. I gotta take it. Oh, did I not tell you guys that part?

3:15No, you didn't. Can you guys say what it is? All right, so these look the same as our regular mics generally, except the ring around the center that is normally black is the red for the mkbhd red and something i didn't even anticipate is on the bottom of the microphone they embossed or i don't know what that's considered painted it painted they painted the mkbhd the waveform specifically on the bottom it also it is matte black i know it looks similar but it's definitely like a matte finish yeah you're I was about to compare them. I was like... Marquez uses an RE27? Yo, Colorware, if you guys could do this to an RE27, that would be unreal.

3:56I know they might do one-offs once in a while. They'd rather mass-produce a bunch of these. Probably. That's an RE? An RE. I was like, I didn't know them in microphones. An Electrovoice RE27. Literally, I use this mic because I like the way it sounds. I think the SM7Bs sound great, but there's something of a tenor to my voice, and now you guys are used to hearing it this way, and I like it. But I like this a lot. Everyone says that we sound the same. So should I just also be using one of those mics? No, because then we sound too similar. Yeah, then people want people to figure out. You're right.

4:25It just sounds like Marquez talking to himself and me chiming in every once in a while. That would be a weird podcast. But like Colorware literally, like when they do these painted things, they literally like disassemble the thing, paint the pieces and reassemble them. So I don't know if they're capable of doing that to this mic, but if they did, I would. That seems like it would be much harder. That seems like a way more complicated mic than these. These are generally pretty simple in terms of the casing that you pop off, I believe. But Dallas would know more than I would. Standard. Yeah. All right.

4:55Do I want to install all of them now? Of course we do. Through the magic of editing. I knew it was happening. All right. Let's video edit it. You know how it sounds. Holy smokes. He's kind of plugged in already. I think they're pretty sweet. It's so loud in my ears right now. All right. You ready? Okay. All right. Through the magic of editing. we will be back baby wow look at this they're all installed what did we just discover can you show everybody they painted the what is that even called the inside screen the tiny screen inside I don't know what that's called or is it just like a structure to hold the microphone gate the capsule well they painted the inside which you would never see test it whoa oh that's no good all right through the magic of editing we will be right back back we figured it out the mic is fine everything's great everything was fine wow it looks great on the producer mic because of the logo is just right there that's yeah although i think we need to flip that plate upside down you can't even really see it on ours no it's the right way that's perfect yeah it's perfect to those just for the record can i can i borrow this yes just i want you guys to hear the difference between the re27 and sm7b and let me know in the comments if i should stick with the re27 or move to the much prettier sm7b this is me on the re27 this is me on the sm7b this is me on the re27 this is me on the sm7b that's i'm not changing the way i'm talking at all that's just the difference between these two mics that does sound significantly different just let me know it sounds so much different i think you sound better on that that's what i'm saying but i can't tell if you sound better or i'm just so used to hearing you for the last hundred plus episodes in that andrew now you talk on yeah let me try this wow oh it's so far away what how do i end this waveform was produced by adam alina and ellis rovin waveform is produced by adam alina and ellis rovin wow there's a lot more bass waveform is produced by adam alina and ellis rovin waveform is produced by adam alina and ellis rovin this is the sm7b this is the re27 do we want to do the the uh the audio man explains or do you just want to get into our busy podcast today how fast we're busy we'll we'll decide based on the comments on this episode if we if we should do it next episode okay yeah i like it so get ready all right we knew yeah we knew this would be a busy time of the year and uh judging by the couple of event invites that have all happened very recently, it's definitely about to be the busy time of year.

7:38We know there's going to be an Apple event on September 12th, I believe. That's probably going to be iPhone. We're also suspecting new Apple Watch, suspecting new AirPods, maybe some M3 Max along the way. That could be another event later, but that's a bunch of stuff there. We're also going to have a Pixel event in New York City on October 4th. We got an invite to that. That should be Pixel 8, Pixel 8 Pro, and maybe some headphones. Who knows? And the Pixel Watch 2. Oh, yeah. A watch as well. Hopefully that one's good. Better than the first one. Better, yes. Yeah. And a whole bunch of other stuff coming up.

8:17I mean, it's that time of year. It's every time anyone does one of those things anytime anyone ever asks about our job and they're like, is there like a busy time of year? I'm always It's like, yeah, all of the products and most important stuff that has to be on the shelf by the holiday season starts coming out in September and October. Yeah. And that's what we're about to get into. So make sure you subscribe to all the channels and watching all the videos that come out because it's going to be good. This first ever podcast episode was called Smartphone Season and came out mid-August. It's a good title for it.

8:49Smartphones and many more things galore. It's going to be great. Can I share something about the... Oh, yeah. so apple you know every year they're hiding clues about what they're going to show off in the invite in the little art that they put in the invite so i know next week we were talking we're going to make some predictions about what we think but i just wanted to get out there early because i think i cracked the code before anyone and i uh took the time to mock up some renders okay oh goodness oh wow to do it so we all were looking at it i thought that apple looked and be what will put up the apple invite it's sort of the shape of the apple logo but it has these sort of ripples in it and it's made of stars and it's made of titanium is that what you think definitely see i think oh boy i think it's supposed to be the among us guy it does right right and i think this is their they're announcing that launching with apple vision will be among us vr and i actually just time to make some some renders i want to share with you oh no i really think you know they were really this is really what they were hinting at so i'm this is my first official prediction wait renders included how did you for audio listeners it is among us listen among us characters mocked up as the invitation yeah and it does look wait ai did this oh i did this but yeah i did this by by typing it in the day yeah no no you made this

10:21it's that time of year folks uh speaking of smartphones the zen phone had a moment it was a very quick moment the moment was weird i remember seeing on twitter there was this headline or i think someone put it in the slack it was like an android authority article about how the zen phone is rumored to be going away getting discontinued and i was like whoa that's a i mean we talked about it briefly but that's kind of a crazy confirmation so i remember looking on twitter and trying to search for other articles and seeing what i could read about it and i couldn't find anything else it was from a taiwanese news site and it was reported directly by android authority i guess from the taiwanese news yeah so i saw that and i was like oh it's not really anywhere else that i would normally read but i don't know android 30 i guess they're pretty pretty solid i'll sort of retweet.

11:10I said no in all lowercase. I knew this was going to happen eventually, but it was a rumor. A couple days later, the Asus account perks up and says, no, we're not actually discontinuing any of this stuff. We have plans for a new Zen phone. We have plans for a new ROG phone. We have plans for more of these phones. In those couple days of a gap in between the rumor of them discontinuing the Zen phone and the JK were not, I was fully accepting that the Zen phone was gone forever. I had fully accepted it. And you went through the whole grief process? The whole thing, yeah. We put up a short that had me using an Android phone and we used the Zen phone in it and half the comments were like, wow, that's too bad.

11:58There's not gonna be any more of those phones like that. The whole internet went through that grief and then it was back. I got tagged probably like 50 times in those two days. just like you're using this now what do you think what do you think and i was just sad maybe this will get them press so they'll say more zen phone 10s i mean honestly i feel like this is probably it's good press too because they just released the u.s version right and like you know maybe it wound up being good press so it's not very often that we see like companies directly responding to weird rumors like this yeah yeah so i'm glad they just came out straight and we're like no no no we're still doing it i guess the how many times though do you see a rumor of a company killing off one of their products that's not true like anytime you see a rumor of them killing off one of their products and they don't respond it's probably because they actually killed it yeah like the bixby speaker or whatever the rumor was that they were collapsing they were like doing a restructuring at asus and so they were just merging the zenphone and rog lines and that everybody that was working on zenphone was going to start working on rog yeah i don't know where that taiwanese outlet got that information from but me neither yeah but it sounds so realistic that i wouldn't be shocked if that's actually kind of going to happen especially since the zen phones are small yeah i think i've seen some people talk about like oh maybe it's just that it won't be a compact flagship anymore maybe the zen phone name will just be gone but they're still making something um i i feel like at this point now that people are starting like people give the zen phone a lot of credit i feel like one runner up a bunch last year in the smartphone awards it's only gotten better this year so like cameras yeah yeah it's doing it's doing awesome i i don't know i still use it i still use it and i tried to switch back to my pixel i was like no i like this size so much better i couldn't go back to my pixel it is funny when we were in the grief stages and accepting this on twitter austin evans tweeted like it's sad but it's also not surprising like people with their wallets and as much as we like small phones like most people don't buy small phones so it's it's the most vocal enthusiastic minority of people who are like yes iphone 12 mini was the perfect size yes zen phone is great and then not enough people bought it it was discontinued and now the plus iphone is in its place and sells just and sells much better yeah and so we wouldn't be shocked if the zen phone went away but we still all love the thing i think it was believable enough to think maybe it would happen.

14:23Yeah. Yeah, man. Phones are way too big now. They really need to make small phones. It's funny. You're holding a Pixel Fold, but also the outside screen of the Pixel Fold is pretty compact. Mine's taller than it. Yeah. Zenfone's taller than the Pixel Fold. Yeah. So there you go. Yeah. That happened this week. Can I talk about my Zenfone really quick? Yeah. I've been using this for two months now. Okay. I love it. Okay. Backing of it. Two months back review? Still great. I mean, there's no wear on this. This is no case. climbing, hiking, treating it like crap, and it's nothing like the old ones.

14:57Yeah. Now I have one gripe about this. Okay. And I think this might be very specific, and I'm using this as a call to action to maybe help me. Wi-Fi calling. It has it. But in the U.S., I've looked everywhere on how to turn it on, and I cannot figure it out. From everything that I've researched, it seems like in order to have Wi-Fi calling in the U.S., your carrier has to whitelist the model of phone to allow that feature through the sim or whatever yeah and because zenphone's not a very popular this is my this is my assumptions here since zenphone's not that popular of a phone t-mobile doesn't care i use t-mobile so my phone model isn't whitelisted in this wi-fi calling yeah thing so even though i know the phone has it and even though i know on t-mobile i've used wi-fi calling before i cannot right now and in this office that is very bad because we have crap service this is also you're still using one of the ones we got early which is an international yes so i'm wondering if the new one would do anything different i think potentially the north america version will have it more likely i don't know maybe yeah i don't know i like any carriers sell it i don't think so i don't think any carriers sell it i don't see that turning into something from from From all the stuff I've looked at, there's all these weird ways you can plug this set of numbers into the dialer, and then it will allow the feature in the settings, and then every time you restart the phone, you have to dial it in again.

16:24That didn't even work for me. There's nothing in any of the settings. I promise I've looked everywhere. Twitter has helped me. It's not there. Someone from Asus, someone from T-Mobile, if you are listening to this podcast, please, please, please, please help me figure this out. I had the same problem. The four other people out there that have the same problem on T-Mobile or something. but um i would love for it to work because i love this phone yeah i remember when i was using it on at &t i didn't have wireless calling and or wi-fi calling and that was a pretty big it's really bad in that corner like where we sit is awful service and yeah for those who don't know in a video production studio which has concrete floors concrete ceilings metal beams everywhere and double thick insulated glass for acoustics yeah cell signal doesn't really get in there too well so yeah yeah we need wi-fi calling don't love us yeah no it's a thing anyway speaking of things actually should we take a break we have this last one's quick okay uh yeah it is pretty quick we we did start to keep seeing cyber trucks rolling around on delivery trucks yes and wrapped as other trucks that's so we're so we're assuming cyber truck deliveries are coming soon well we We also have this like kind of Cybertruck event thing coming from the Tesla referral program.

17:42Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. Where like if you pay 30 ,000 credits, you get an invite to the event with you plus one first come first serve to the event. Yeah. Which we just know is in Austin. We don't know. That's literally the first time Tesla's acknowledged this event, right? I believe so. We were all assuming there would be some type of rumored Cybertruck delivery event in Q3. And we've always just stuck with this rumor. But Tesla's never confirmed anything. and the first time we see it officially confirmed by Tesla is inside the Tesla app. It's a new referral award where you can spend points to go to the Tesla Cybertruck delivery event.

18:17It does not say what the date is, but it says that it will be an event and you can go. Yeah, and you all travel and accommodations are up to you. This just gets you into the event. This is just a ticket in. and whether this is a delivery event for people who pay their credits to go and pick it up or whether it's just for the original people who are going to oh no you won't get your truck there you're not getting your you're just getting a ticket to the event okay i assume it's going to be i always look into the future as if it's the past it'll probably be very similar to the plaid delivery event where tesla has this very short event where they go on stage and they say hey manufacturing is really hard but we've got this great product and we're finally starting to manufacture it here are the couple of tricks and things we learned in spinning up manufacturing here are the first 25 drive them off in a ceremonial like pre-arranged thing where like five happy families like get in their new cyber trucks say 25 just because that's what the bed is no 25 was what plaid was oh yeah but yeah i'm assuming it'll be the same and yeah they all like you know our pre-arranged california families i'm sure lots of martessa employees already but then they this isn't they sort of oh texas this time so maybe texas families who knows uh and they'll they'll drive off the line and that'll be the 15 minute event and if you're there you got to see it happen and then there will be 20 youtube reviews in one week yeah i have a question how many credits is 30 000 credits besides 30 000 let me one over 29 999 let me just give you some context what's the context of 30 30 ,000 credits to be able to go to the event.

19:56Because I think Andrew and I were talking about this when this first happened. It was like, wow, what an easy way for Tesla to just get people to burn their credits. Yeah. I get an email every time I refer someone to get a Tesla or any Tesla product. The only way you get credits is doing referrals? Yes. So anytime someone uses my code. So I've referred someone five days ago to buy a Model 3, and that added 10 ,000 credits to my account. You have to sell three Model 3s to be able to go to the event? Yeah. Geez. wouldn't that mean like only influencers can go yeah right honestly i mean that's kind of the way it feels but it's only three which sounds like a lot but a lot of people who just have neighbors who are thinking about it or have a friend who got one or whatever just end up with three and so if you feel like you could spend it on anything you could spend it on jackets and like tires supercharger miles is another one that a lot of people commonly spend it on so yeah it's a lot of credits it's a lot of referrals but if you're that much of an enthusiast that you would go to a delivery event where you don't even get your own truck you probably are pretty into it didn't weren't they like not letting some influencers in so what was that last event there was like a huge line and there was a bunch of people on twitter who were tweeting that they like got turned around at the entrance i think like kilowatts got turned around the cyber rodeo right that was one of those things where no one was actually invited and they just tried to go oh okay yeah one person did get invited and then they when they got there they're like sorry there's no room or something like that and it was a huge deal yeah i remember that anyway these these events are always uh yeah okay well if it actually happens before the end of the year then i guess i will lose the bet hold on hold on let's not go that far oh even though i'm on the opposite side of the bet of you so i don't know you are arguing for you but oh does this count as a delivery or a pickup?

21:44It's a pickup. We said deliveries. That's true. Wait, yes. It's both. I think we were on the there will be plus 25 delivered. Everyone else is not 25 delivered. But like if I order food and I have to drive and pick it up. That's true. That's not deliveries. That's a pickup. This is considered takeout. Yeah, the way I tip changes. Takeout. This is takeout. Yeah, it's cyber drug takeout. I'll say two things. one i guess we defined our bet earlier as if it was the same as the plaid event and 25 people receive their truck and we said not find it non-tesla employees right yes hopefully non-tesla employees then it counts two it is both delivery and pickup because it's a pickup truck i was gonna say come pick up your truck is what i was just wow marcus got to the meme before me if the trucks get recalled what's what's the grace period that they have to remain in non-tesla employees hands before that goes back to us if i get food poisoning from this delivery there are so many ways to define it's like okay the first 25 roll off the line before the end of the calendar year and then they deliver another hundred thousand in january but the 25 that were delivered before the end of the year all get recalled does it count as not satisfying it does anyone hear it technically i don't know this bet doesn't even have a wager does it it doesn't if a cyber truck explodes in texas but nobody's around to hear it did it ever get delivered at all i think we should go to break i think we should go to break it's a chaotic episode already all right but yeah cyber truck trivia time wow trivia time yeah truck wait so after the break we do want to talk about the nothing smartwatch we do want to talk about playstation portable making no type of sense so there's a lot more to get to but first the trivia trivia okay dude i'm excited you guys were showing this trivia question to like everyone in the office so i'm very excited and everyone said no way i cannot wait for you guys to hear it although is it this one or the next one it's this one but ellis also came out with a great one but loki i feel like you might know this i'm not sure We'll see.

23:58We'll see. All right. So, fun fact. According to Asus, the Asus name is actually a reference to what Greek mythological creature? Oh, I already know this. Ah, see? I had a feeling. I did a tour at the Asus headquarters in Taiwan. Greek mythological. I just did my research, okay? I went to Taiwan to find this answer out. Asus. Asus. Asus. Greek. God? Asus. Greek what? Greek mythological creature Greek mythological creature It's gonna make a lot of sense Can you name one other Greek mythological creature? The chimera Zeus Zeus I don't know if that's true or not So like the Loch Ness Monster Zeus Zeus Zeus The Loch Ness Monster You mean like a really big bee?

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27:28There's like two products. They have like two products. They're like three. Spitting up the sub-bring. Hey, parentheses two products. All right. They also have the bugs all over the ad. You know, I don't know. They made a new sub-brand called CMF, which is a weird name already. Are they trying to get clever? That actually. Okay. Okay, CMF, normally in like hardware lingo terms stands for color, material, finish. If you're talking about a new device and someone says, tell me about the CMF, or if they're just talking about some design process, CMF is color, material, and finish. That is what this stands for as well.

28:07Nothing products usually being clear is a pretty key thing to note here. So CMF being clear, plastic, glossy for everything that they make. Damn. Well, not that CMF makes, though. But what is CMF? CMF is going to make what? A smartwatch. Is that the plan? So there was a leak that has three products. It's a 65-watt charger, a pair of earbuds, and a smartwatch. That's what this leak is. That they're calling the Watch Pro. The Watch Pro. That looks just like an Apple Watch Ultra. It looks exactly like the renders we all were getting before the Watch Ultra came out when it was called the Watch Pro, which is just like a...

28:49Square. Like flat-edged, square, rounded corners. Squircle. Yeah, yeah. It says does not look like the old renders for the Apple Watch Ultra before it was confirmed. Yeah. And it just has an orange band. It also kind of looks like my new Casio. It does. Yeah. Is that it? Is that the CMF? blur that um yeah so there's some leaks about these couple new things they're doing um apparently carl says that cmf is going to be a separate team that is going to be focused on clean design for these new products um they will be it seems like they're going to be cheaper than their products right now um making better design more accessible is their goal that was supposed to be the goal of nothing yeah isn't that what's the entire point also the cmf logo looks like it's a cmt just saying okay kind of weird i like that um but yeah this watch looks like the render of the apple watch ultra before we knew what it actually was going to look like even more basic it just looks like a square like iphone with a like nothing watch face on it squircle um a couple specs apparently from this 1.96 amoled display 600 nits peak brightness 50 hertz refresh rate software claims to have 100 watch faces and 100 workouts to that it can track heart rate blood oxygen sensors battery that lasts up to 13 days when always on display is turned off will not run wear os price point is apparently 4500 rupees which if you convert that is around 55 usd that's crazy that's concerning i think yeah that's like yeah that's really there's a certain point in things that are like we can mostly type but this goes all over the place is like price points we like things that are cheap but there's a point that's so cheap that you just wonder if you're like how is the world is this exactly yeah this seems like when you would go on amazon and search for smartwatch the first result that would come up as like cmf smartwatch 13 day battery life ip67 bluetooth wi-fi 100 workouts tell me that when i go on amazon search for smartwatch the 35 dollar product does it look exactly like this it's kind of just cue that those all have 35 dollars those all have the same probably 600 nits display 100 workouts 100 sport mode yep see wait a second wait is he like is carl soldier boy The soldier watch, the pay watch.

31:24100 sport modes. That's exactly what CMF was saying. Interesting. Okay, but in their defense, the Pebble smartwatch was$99, like 10 years ago. And that thing was awesome. It was, but it didn't have a real screen. It had, wasn't that just sort of e-ink? Yeah, but it's also been like 10 years. It's true. So if it's slightly better with a real screen, I could see how they could get to that price point. This is five stars with 1 ,093 ratings. I feel like I see what's going on, which is nothing. Yeah. The brand Nothing, I think, wants to always have clear products. But Carl wants to also be able to sell other products that aren't clear.

32:11And they're orange. Because all of these leaks are orange. Maybe orange is the color they picked. but cmf is their way of indicating this one's not clear it's and so that allows them to sell earbuds that aren't clear and of course when you make it clear you have to spend more money to like do the extra design work and like decide where to put the glue and how to organize the cables and make it look good clear right so these are not going to be as expensive as the clear nothing stuff nothing becomes a more premium this designator and cmf is just this stuff that's not clear you're right it's not clear why they're doing this i have no idea yeah there could be a there could be a nothing smartwatch later but i would expect that one to be clear i have two theories okay okay one is that do you remember like last year or the year before when literally everyone started making wireless earbuds and it's just because they have like the highest margins of any product that you can make making wireless earbuds is insanely cheap and because they are individually individual people lose individual ones all the time and just buy cheap ones on Amazon and Qualcomm and if you had your other major chip companies essentially put out SOCs that yeah they're off the shelf yeah like yeah you pretty much just have to design a plastic injection mold like I have plenty of friends who like lose their earbuds they go on Amazon they literally just search wireless earbuds buy them and that's it and so I think probably what they're thinking is like we should just make this like ultra cheap tech that has really high margins that could like help lift up nothing because they had to up the price of the nothing ear one because they said the margins were too low well because they had to slide the other and that your sticks in at the 99 cheaper um the other thing is sort of the comparative analysis that i think we've done videos on before where it's like if you have something that's worse you can position nothing the brand as being the premium brand.

34:03Even though nothing's original point was to be the affordable brand, now they can make them seem more premium and they slowly slide the price up. And so you sort of, you turn the cheap one into the cash cow, I guess, in a way that can prop up the rest of the business. So you can do lower margin, more interesting stuff with nothing, but you still sell a loaded cheap earbuds. It is weird though, because there's only one competing product between the two, which is the earbuds. and if this says it's going to be like making making better design more accessible i would assume that either these are cheaper than nothing or they're saying nothing's design and this is better i assume the word accessible just means cheaper yeah yeah so like we're we're assuming that these are going to be cheaper so nothing ear sticks are 99 but these are called buds pro so So maybe these could be$99, but they're better and then cheaper than the ear twos.

35:01And I am a little confused here, but there is only one product that's actually like directly comparable, which is earbuds. Because the smartwatch, nothing doesn't have. And the charger, nothing doesn't have. But nothing has phones. And CMF doesn't have. Right. I keep reading CMT whenever I look at it. Yet. Yet. You think they're going to do a phone eventually? I could. It just wouldn't be clear. We'll see. It's not clear whether they're not going to do it. It's Zen phone watch out. So, yeah, but I don't know. $55 for a smartwatch. I think that runs to the point where I'm getting very skeptical.

35:36Yeah. I mean, I think the ideal comparison is going to be other$30 to$60 smartwatches. And if it can compete with those, then that's just where you want to be. You get lots of Amazon reviews. You get lots of people just searching smartwatch on Google and grabbing the one that looks like it's the most interesting. you get it in shelves and best buy and all that stuff like that's all you really got to do i get people searching for wireless earbuds it's just wireless earbuds on amazon but just searching smartwatch on amazon which i just i have a hard time believing that there's 30 smart i know but i just such a hard time believing people look for that because when you click on it does it say it's like number four in like smartwatches or whatever uh oh uh let me see because you can see what the the number one selling smartwatches, and I almost guarantee it's under a hundred bucks.

36:22Three thousand people have bought the top result in the last month. The only thing I worry about that is like Amazon gaming things though, and doing like giving things away for free and counting as verified sales. There's a lot of weird ways you can game the system. Even Amazfit smartwatches are as low as like$55. That one's$15. How is there a margin on that? you can't even buy a watch band for$15 I feel like Apple watch bands are$100 in the smartwatch view I feel like there's so many people who don't think of things as just smartwatches they think of them as Fitbits or they think of them as Apple watches they just know the name of it and they're searching those names so I'm so confused if you out there are using an Amazon smartwatch let us know I would love to hear how it actually works we bought the number one selling one once and opened it we're like this doesn't look bad and then just never thought about it ever again the smartwatch yeah we bought one a while ago because we wanted to do a video on it and i just don't think we ever did had a hard time getting myself to care believe it or not something about that thing this one's 30 i'll be interested to see how this cmf stuff goes through i mean it looks nice like listen it looks good i always thought the apple watch ultra pre-renders looked good it looks like an iphone it's got 100 workouts all right so that's the that's the watch i don't have really much else to say about that no um we should talk though about this this playstation thing though that happened with now was this last week or the week before last week this is last week also okay so i guess summary playstation portable portal portal playstation portal because psp is playstation portable sorry i think i just wrote it as the portable playstation thing that's my fault yeah so it's called the playstation portal it was announced uh last week and basically if you haven't seen the thing what it is is actually kind of interesting it's a dual shot controller split in half with an eight inch screen in the middle it's exactly what a 17 year old would have photoshopped when they're like what if i had a playstation controller and a switch in the middle yeah it's exactly the same it's what if my joy cons were a playstation controller but the dual shot controller is really nice it is like it still has all the haptics and all that the battery life's not amazing but okay you have the dual shock controller wherever you want and you have the screen so you don't have to be in front of a tv i can be on the couch i can be in the basement i can be under the covers in my room playing video games and no one can tell because i got it in my lab it's an eight inch screen the bathroom wherever yeah exactly in the bathroom wherever yeah so so you've got that you've got a 200 price tag and so all of us saw this and thought well that's actually really intriguing like i i like the ps5 i played games on the ps5 i wonder if i would want to get one of these things.

39:07Then you learn the details of like how it works, what it does, what it doesn't do, right? First of all, it is a remote play device. Basically what you need to know about what that means is it's not really doing a lot of, much of any actual processing on the device. What's happening is you need to also have a PS5 and that PS5 needs to be on and connected to the internet and your PlayStation portal, while it's also on and connected to internet will then use your playstation 5's compute processing to show the games on your little display in your hands so it's this eight inch i think it's 1080p 60 hertz it's cheap it's just like bring the game from the tv to another room in your own house basically i mean i assume you can play on wi-fi somewhere else but then you start to deal with latency and like how good is the internet connection wherever you're at so yeah i think we confirmed that i think uh judder did a video on doing it but he wasn't able to test it and like he said he asked them about using it on wi-fi somewhere else and they said sure but it like depends on your connection so that's like i'm sure you can get great connections somewhere but that's never something i look forward this is a world of cloud gaming like you've seen what it's like to just stream a youtube video imagine streaming a 1080p youtube video with live low latency controls and all that other stuff like it's it's not going to be as good as playing on your couch but sure whatever you take the game with you yeah i thought you it does it's not compatible with playstation cloud it's not compatible with playstation cloud but you can connect via wi-fi to your your playstation still has to be turned on at home yeah but you can make the link to your but but it's never streaming a game from the internet it's always streaming it from it's not like it's not like stadia yeah they don't have data centers that are like streaming the games to you it's just going This is the first of so many questions I have about this thing.

40:58Don't even worry. So you need a PlayStation 5 is the baseline thing. Yeah. You need a good internet connection, and then the compute from your PlayStation 5 is what's being shown on the handheld controller. Yeah. That's number one. So, okay, fine. 200 bucks, I'm not shocked by that. I think that's not the craziest thing. I was shocked already. I was shocked. It's not as interesting anymore, but it is not a shock to me at that price. I guess I could say it that way. um but then some other weird things started to pop up uh do the work do you want to do the worst one the headphone one is the bluetooth the bluetooth okay the worst one is that this does not support bluetooth and instead uses a protocol that only two pairs of sony earbuds and headphones use not even their existing headphones have this protocol they just released two new pairs of earbuds and headphones that have the protocol so those are the only things that you can listen to audio through it with unless you use the headphone jack yeah so it has a headphone jack no bluetooth but if you want to connect wireless headphones to your playstation portal you can't just go bluetooth settings and connect your sony mark fives even though sony makes them uh you would what's the protocol called i want to look it up i'm so mad about this i'm so mad he's like it's It's called PlayStation Link.

42:21It's called PlayStation Link, and it's so confusing, A, because there was already a Sony thing called PlayStation Link that was different. I thought so. And B, it's like when it first, you know, Sony loves proprietary audio codecs, so I assumed that they had just made like a super low latency one for gamers, but that's not what they did. Wait, it's not? No, it's like that would mean they were like using Bluetooth to encode, or they were transmitting over Bluetooth and encoding. the frequency or whatever. As far as, no one's like used the words Wi-Fi direct, but as far as I can tell is that this is a Wi-Fi direct based thing.