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32:44Because now it's just gonna force people up the ladder to just, I might as well get a Switch 2. Or even if they don't, then they're minimizing their loss because they just raised the prices on all the cheaper models. Right, yeah. Which, you know, in 2025, you look at inflation, it's like things can't really be that cheap anymore. Obviously, their parts are so old that they probably are making a huge profit if they're selling any of them. But yeah, it is very surprising. $80 for a used Switch is kind of good, though. Yeah, I mean. That's not bad. I mean, it's great. Yeah, it's great. But I mean, you know, If you have an original Nintendo Switch, it's been a long time.

33:19There is one very specific one, though, that I do think goes for a lot because it's the easiest to mod or something about it. There's like this very specific generation of it. If you didn't update it to a certain patch, yeah, it was easy to mod. Also, they have raised the price of the Switch 1 Joy-Cons by$10, which is something that people might buy new, obviously, because of Stick Drift, which is effectively where it does not monitor the direction of your stick correctly after a certain amount of time. Can I tell you a funny story Adam and I experienced the other day? Sure. We're playing Rumble mode, right?

33:55No, Knockout. Knockout, Knockout, sorry. I think we've said this already. That mode is so much fun. Knockout Tour. Knockout Tour, yeah. I don't want to say it's worth buying Worlds for that, but if you love Mario Kart, I think Knockout is super fun. It's the one to play with a bunch of friends. Knockout Tour is basically like you go through six stages in a row without stopping. Without stopping. And it's like Fortnite. And there's checkpoints. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's almost like Fortnite where checkpoints, people get eliminated and you have to be. And it goes from like 26 or 25 down to like four and then you win.

34:28Or lose. Yeah, or lose. But Adam, Alex, and I are playing on the screen over here. And Alex is just like, oh my God, I got stick drift already. And he's like freaking out the whole thing. Using the new Joy-Con. It's a brand new Joy-Con. But he had tilt controls on. He had tilt controls on. I didn't realize. The best is he was so into it. I was like, oh, no. Mine's messed up, too. I think I have tilt controls on. You probably just have it on. He's like, no, no, no. And he's like focusing and just playing. And then the next time he switches controls, he's like, what? I was like, dude, you definitely just have tilt controls on.

34:59And yeah. Yeah, I haven't figured out how to turn tilt controls off. If you press start, and it used to be like the left button, but now I think it's Y. there'll be settings and you can turn it's like auto steering, tilt control and auto accelerating. Baby mode. I was just about to say that too. Yeah, it's the bumpers on Bowling. Okay, and they also raised the price of the Alarmo alarm clock by$10. No! See, that's what they should raise the price on though. People are still buying that. Oh, wait. I kind of want one. Sorry, Switch 1 Joy-Cons went up by$10. Yes, which people do need to replace yeah that's because you have a switch one everyone's joy cons eventually get stick drift i bet they're yeah but they're making more money off they're probably making a lot on the joke and the joy cons were already so expensive yeah and you need to buy those new effectively so yeah even if you didn't go and get the switch too you're like ah my switch is fine i'm still just gonna play these games randomly like you will need joy cons eventually new joy cons so yeah again uh 450 is not seeming like that big of a deal now that the oled is uh 400 you know 50 more dollars for the brand new one is, yeah.

36:08The OLED screen still looks a little bit better, in my opinion, but... A lot better. A lot better, yeah. I would just love to see the numbers of how many Switches, Switch OLEDs, and Switch lights are still sold in the US on like a quarterly basis. That data will probably come out. I mean, the Switch lights... There probably is some data right now. I'm sure there's a lot of Switch lights being sold. One, because it's the cheapest. Two, because it's the smallest. And they have a bunch of colors. like if it's like a Christmas gift for like little kids this is this is just attacking all the parents and grandparents who don't know anything about consoles and when their kid asks for a new Switch they just buy the thing the old version accidentally or they just 20 % dare I mean a lot of people probably don't buy anything used you know there's probably a lot of people who just walk into the store and buy the thing and that's how they purchase everything so that's what they're counting on yep alright moving on we got Fediverse Corner to talk about let's go I need I need LS to make custom Fediverse Corner music.

37:07Ghost has released Ghost 6.0. If you do not know what Ghost is, Ghost is a newsletter publishing platform and sort of also a website builder. You can kind of think it as a combination between Substack and Squarespace, which is pretty cool. It feels weird saying Squarespace on a piece of content because I've literally never done a Squarespace ad. But like the entirety of YouTube is like powered, it's like run by Squarespace ads. anyway I'm not doing an ad for Squarespace but I am doing an ad for Ghost but they didn't pay me anyway so if you watched our Fediverse Explained episode that we did last year it was called Blue Sky vs Threads or two years ago actually it might have been two years ago it could have been two years ago we broke down the protocols of the open social web and we also interviewed Ghost CEO John Nolan because John O.

38:04Nolan, sorry. Because he was very adamant about eventually integrating Ghost into the Fediverse. And the way that this would work effectively is that your website itself. So I have DavidML.com, right? DavidML.com now is an entity in the Fediverse. So on Threads or on Blue Sky or on Mastodon, you can follow DavidML.com. and then whenever I make a blog post on davidmall.com because Ghost is a newsletter publishing platform, you can just see the blog post there. You can like it, you can interact with it, you can comment on it. Those comments will show up on my website. So it's just kind of a way to own and distribute all of your content across the social web, which is very cool.

38:51I am trying to figure out how they integrated it with Blue Sky because Blue Sky is on the AT protocol, which is different. didn't they use the bridget fed thing i don't think they did uh anyway the update also includes a native analytics suite i think the reason that they're doing this is because there has been a really big resurgence in substack over the last year or so which has been very interesting to see um because back in 2020 substack blew up because a bunch of journalists started leaving different publications and starting their own newsletters and making a lot of money substack was offering people effectively like entire salaries to write on there exclusively but yeah i think there's been this big resurgence of a bunch of regular people have been writing on substack recently and i think that that is a reaction to just the quickness and randomness and algorithm focus of social media a lot of people want to do more long-form thoughts instead of just dumb takes that are incentivized by the algorithm to be um controversial blogs are back baby it's blogs are back baby it's It's funny because everyone you're describing here as like old reporter who made a sub stack to do non clickbaity headlines.

40:02It makes me think of one of my friends who's the first sub stack mentioned in this article talking about ghosting. Oh, really? Yeah. That's cool. Tangle News. Oh, that's your friend? Yeah. That's cool. Marquez and I played Ultimate with him. Wow. That's super cool. Yeah. Also, Ryan Barrett, the guy who does Bridget Fed, is part of a new social, which is the group that's like doing this whole thing. so I think back to my point I think they are using some sort of bridge are they okay that would be my guess I emailed John O 'Nolan this morning but he does not live on this coast I don't think he's on the anyway I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say where he lives but uh I hate why don't you want to dox him on as far as I understand he lives in a different time zone so I'm not surprised that he hasn't gotten back to me as of time of publishing uh I would like to find out how they're doing that on Blue Sky, but either way, it's very cool.

40:52It's a very, also, Ghost is open source, so you can host it yourself. If Ghost, the company, the business, goes out of business, you can still run your website. You can still host it. It's not like all these other platforms where they get to make all the decisions, and if they decide that they want to charge you a million dollars, you're just out of luck. You can do everything yourself, which is pretty freaking awesome. So, Adam, you updated Cool Supply, your newsletter, to be on Ghost. And it was really easy. Like I logged in and then a little banner popped up and was like, hey, Go 6.0 is ready.

41:24Do you want to update? And I was like, oh, sure. Yeah. So I hit update and it was like, go grab a coffee. This may take a couple of minutes. And it literally took like 30 seconds. Oh, wow. Everything was updated. But I don't have a lot on there. But still, it like completely updated. Super, super chill. Very fun little Fediverse corner update because this is what John has been waiting for for a very long time. Yeah. All right. It is cool. It's like having your own little comment section. Yeah. No, it's amazing. On everything. And I think newsletter should come back. Yeah. I've just been like I've been nervous to do you know like a weekly newsletter because I don't want to be so reactive to everything all the time because I think people need to digest information more and not have a hot take about literally everything.

42:01This podcast would crumble if we weren't allowed to do that. Yeah. We actually usually have a couple of days. Yeah. We have a couple of days to think about it and think if it's a horrible. Think about what we've done. Think about our horrible opinions. All right. Last story before we take it to break again. Take it to the break. And take it to the bridge. Take it to the bridged account. Bridged Fedover. We tried. Instagram now says that you need a thousand followers to go live. So if you know what going live is on Instagram, it's a live stream. This makes no sense to me. Yeah. I don't understand this at all.

42:36If I really wanted to go live on Instagram and do something nefarious, right? What's to stop me from just botting a thousand followers to whatever account I wanted to go live from? And I mean, yes. And also if like, yeah, just bought it. But if you're a scam account that doesn't have a thousand followers, you're not scamming anyone because no one's watching the live stream. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's no, as far as I know, there's no live discoverability in Instagram. It's only page reels, like posts and reels discoverability. You only ever see live if you're following the person. So this actually just kind of seems really crappy to people with not a lot of followers.

43:16that might still go live to like, I don't, there's. By the way, a thousand followers is a lot of followers. It's a lot of followers. Like that's a lot of people. And I know that like, you know, huge accounts that have millions of followers are like, that's not a lot. But regular people do not have a thousand followers. Most people do not. And it's kind of lame that, you know, I have some friends in like the film photography community that occasionally just want to like go live and talk about some photos that they took just to their friends. Yeah. And this makes it feel like Instagram is moving further and further away from being a platform where you share things with your friends and more and more like oh we're only going to give features to people who have a large audience that can make us a lot of well if instagram heard that they'd say thank you very much that's exactly what we're going for but do you know what this like nerfs that's really funny people who bought like meta ray bands or oakley ray bands because or sorry meta oakley because one of the cool things they've said about that is like you can stream on instagram live from your glasses yeah which i think is actually a really cool feature but now you need a thousand followers to do it that's so they just nerfed their own product with this that's potentially thousands of people i did not think of that because i've thought a couple times about grabbing one of the pairs and like playing around of disc golf live i'm lucky enough that i work for a thing that has me over a thousand followers but like yeah i know plenty of people that i would be like oh my buddy's playing around live on his meta ray-bans right now i'd love to watch that yeah now they might not be able to that is so lame i don't know some people were speculating as to why they might have made this change some people thought maybe they want to send uh save on server costs like if there's like less people doing live they don't have to host it anymore the first thing that i thought of was this is them kind of trying to cover their bases for like random like terrorist exactly yeah Like if you, because every time a bad thing happens on Instagram Live, it is live streamed and it's everywhere immediately.

45:13So like this kind of stops that to a certain extent. Like if you need to be a real person, quote unquote, like actively engaging in the community of Instagram, get a thousand followers and then go live. Yeah. So you have like more to lose if you do something. Yeah, which I get, but it also completely screws over everyone trying to build their audience and get bigger. My argument with that, and which goes to what David said, is not everyone's on Instagram to build an audience. Yeah, that's true. Some people just have friends. I think all the time how kind of bummed I am that I didn't separate my Instagram and have two of them.

45:48One that's more of the MKBHD-verse focused and one that's more of just my friends. I originally split it off into Mac and then had to remake my own second one. that then but like yeah a lot of people just want instagram to keep up with their friends the only reason facebook's still alive there's like two facebook groups and a few family members on there marketplace is the reason i have it and marketplace but yeah that's so funny there's gonna be so many people with ray-bans that are probably live stream like random things to their friends i can see it i just lost a feature i can see a class action lawsuit around that to be honest if it's if it's a major feature that they advertise they did remember the thing they brought in charles leclerc to go on like a go-kart drive with the meta ray-bans and then like he was reading the chat on his phone well i feel like he obviously has a thousand followers that's true the feature is still there though it's not like they're taking it away so you bought these glasses for that feature you have to have a thousand yeah like they added a barrier but like i don't know if you can like take a class i feel like you can sue i would argue that's a barrier for a lot of people that is one that won't ever be broken because their profiles are private and they don't want a thousand followers.

46:58Yeah, actually, I know a lot of people with private profiles. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. So, dumb, dumb change. God, that was so much dumber than I expected. Once we talk about it, we realize it's really stupid. Anyway, that's going to be it for this segment. So we will take it to another trivia question. But next, we're all talking about really cool things we like. Super head-to-head trivia. Super head-to-head, Trevor. Thank you, Ellis. All right. The next question of how well do you guys know each other? What are the apps in the other person's phone dock? Oh. Yeah. Oh. Oh. All right. That's interesting.

47:37It's got to be tricky. It is. All right. Well, we'll get to that at the end of the show. But in the next segment, we're going to do a little show and tell with some stuff that we've been using recently, interested in recently. I have too. It's going to be fun. Nice. things we want to show and tell about. Yeah. Show and show. Show and I'm going to tell. Share it with the class. I'm going to tell everybody. I'm going to tell on you. Do it. Don't tell me. Be right back. That's a Marquez. He's in China. Oh, I can tell Marquez.

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50:12all right welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts yeah that's that's gonna get old pretty quick okay we're in the third segment of this episode now and uh this is our starting to be so meta i'm trying i'm i'm sorry this is our this is our little show and tell segment that we're doing this week so we just figured we wanted yep we very rarely get to talk about products that we're like individually using because this is mostly a news show um and i kind of wanted to talk about a new tripod that i've been using a lot recently what tripod you this morning were like i really want to talk about this can we do show and tell and i was like wait i actually do have something that i just got that i want to talk about that's awesome that's very cool let's do it let's start tripod okay so if you are a photographer or in the photography community you've probably heard of peak design uh they are very high quality quite expensive brand that creates what they would call peak design.

51:10Oh my god. That's their words, not mine. I never realized that. I think it's like a double-entender peak mountain. Yeah, that's always how I took it. I don't know. Anyway, I have had their original travel tripod for a really, really, really long time, basically since it came out. I believe it was like 2018, 2017, 2018. Yeah, it was a while ago. Something like that. I have the carbon fiber one, which is too expensive uh it is six hundred dollars it's really expensive but it's basically the best super lightweight tripod that i've used um i keep it i do a lot of hiking so i like keep it in my backpack and it's very easy to just slap my cameras on and it just like tucks into pretty much like your water bottle holder on the side pretty easy because who needs water on hikes when you can have a six hundred dollar tripod instead yeah but like it's one of those things that can simultaneously be too expensive and also just like really really high quality the best thing ever exactly that's the scenario you have it in yeah and they do have an aluminum version of this which is not that much heavier and it's much cheaper so you know that's still also a good option anyway this has been around for a very long time it does have some quirks and features and uh that is why they eventually made this new one called the it's the peak design pro line of tripods uh so this is the small one for some reason peak design made three of the new of the new pro tripods do you know what the differences are between yeah so they it's mostly that they hold different amounts of weight and also uh can get taller and shorter and stuff like that this is the small one so this will be compared to the original tripod right here if you want to do that yeah i don't know if this is like significantly bigger than i thought it was going to be yeah it is quite a bit bigger so for me um the one problem that i have always had with the original well not one problem maybe the biggest problem i have i've had with the original travel tripod is that i shoot four by five film pretty often four by five film is like one of those large view cameras that you would see in like the 1940s and when i would use this uh it would have some shake because those cameras are very big they're not really these tripods are not really made for like big payloads so i think part of the reason that peak design got into this uh market segment was that they wanted to probably tackle people that are using like way heavier duty harder core cameras and then there are just some engineering things with the original tripod that they made better so for example it has this quick lock mechanism that allows you to just like displace the uh they have a little mount that is kind of like standard to them and it looks like this.

53:52The tripod mount that goes on the camera. The original one's square. It's very small. But I liked what it was. My biggest complaint about it was the little area that they hold the Allen wrench for it. The Allen wrench fell out. Yours is missing. I noticed that. You do need an Allen wrench in order to put this on your camera. What I've ended up doing I'm not going to show my keys on camera because people always yell at me about that. But I've put an Allen wrench on my keychain. So I constantly have an Allen wrench with me. Anyway, some of the problems that the original tripod had is that if you raise the head here, and I'm sorry if this is really boring to non-camera people, but if you raise the head here and you want to put it at an angle, you can only...

54:41Wait, what was it? So it's a ball head. Yeah, it's a ball. And there's like these three different dividers essentially that fall down into the tripod when it's tucked all the way in. And sometimes that makes turning it sideways difficult because it kind of gets in the way. Yeah, it can kind of get in the way. Assuming that's what you're talking about. So this new one is more of a standard ball head where you can just pivot and twist in like many different directions. So that's very handy. You can just go 360 instead of having to jam in there. That's very useful. uh the big thing about the 4x5 cameras though is that this because the 4x5 is so big and it's not super heavy but it does have a lot of surface area it would shake a lot and when it was windy on like a mountain and that was very frustrating because there's no optical image stabilization on 4x5 film obviously so any even the most like micro shake would would mess up the image um these are much more stable even the small one is like super stable they also re-engineered the center column to add a bunch of different features.

55:47They changed the clips a little bit. Overall, it's kind of just like a much more sturdy system. Also, when you're clipping in the camera, it now has the spring-loaded mechanism. I was just messing with this. Yeah, the spring-loaded mechanism for the tripod mount on a camera attaching feels super nice. It feels really good. So yeah, effectively, you unlock it by pulling this and it pulls up this little tab that when you put the plate in, it snaps it closed. David, into the mic, talk into your mic a little bit. I'm sorry. He's getting tips. It locks it in. Yeah, I'm sorry. I love tripods. And it like locks it in and then they have an extra lock right here.

56:30So I don't know. Everything about these tripods is definitely about like stability and being able to shoot things without any shake and stuff like that. They made the clips a little bit easier to use because unclipping and clipping a tripod always takes forever. Yeah. So I've been really enjoying this. I don't love how big it is. Like you cannot really beat this original tripod size because this can fit in like basically any water bottle pocket of any backpack that I have. Whereas the new pro ones definitely are bulkier, even the small one. For some reason, they made it in a small, medium, and large form.

57:08the large makes a lot of sense because it's for like giant payload like they're trying to get into the cinema kind of landscape they they sell them a fluid head adapter that makes it so you can use it as a fluid head tripod but i don't really understand why they made the medium one because the small and the medium are almost exactly the same size and they go up in size in prices uh prices of a hundred dollars so they call it pro light pro and pro tall so i'm not really i don't really know but overall like this has made my photography a lot um more reliable i guess specifically with my 4x5 camera i can see like i understand it being larger and the main problem you have with it is shake and stability so like making it larger is probably the only way to really fix that and if you're i would argue if you're carrying something like your 4x5 camera you probably aren't trying to be in like this level of light payload where like this could be i took this tripod with me and just like a sony a7r right with other hiking stuff so like to me it was just part of the pack and then like not too bad um but seeing this i think it's really cool they obviously i mean peaks quality is always yeah absolutely at the top of its game this looks like they solved a bunch of the issues but seeing it and seeing its side just makes me still like the original one i think i'd rather just throw it it's so it's so small it's so like when you are somebody and i see this now all the time watching like disc golf youtube of people like lugging tripods around all over a disc golf course like you want a really small one but the problem is all the really small ones are really flimsy yeah this is they nailed their target demographic for sure this one despite its price um i think getting into the bigger game the when you talk about the larger one and huge payloads and cinema stuff is like we have really good cinema tripods already.

59:05That feels like a crowded space. I'm sure Peak Design can get into it. I think it's probably for people that everything that they own is in the Peak Design ecosystem. They have built out quite in an ecosystem that uses all of their things and they interlock with each other and they've got all these features. But yeah, I think for most people, the original one, even the aluminum one, is more than great. This is really going to be, if you have specific use cases like me with the 4x5. The travel tripod feels like I'm packing it with other things. The pro tripods feel like my pack is all cameras. That's all that's in my pack.

59:44Which has been me for a while now. Yeah, but that's because you sacrifice the rest of survival things for your cameras. I'm having lower back problems. Yeah, I don't know. For my book, it's been great. No, I mean, this is sick. Yeah, and it can get a little bit tighter down too because of that redesigned center column. Yeah, the center column seems way larger, which is the best part about it. Also, when the original one was all the way down like this, it couldn't tilt at all. So the only way to bring it up, you had to loosen it, bring it up to here, tighten it, and then it could, and then it could rotate.

1:00:19But that means it can't go quite as low, whereas this one, it can tilt even when it's all the way down. It's on its lowest stage, yeah. Yeah, which is pretty cool. Do you know what I appreciate? even though this is the pro version it still has the little hidden cell phone holder so this has always been a really cool feature in the bottom there is a hook generally on tripods that hook is for stability so you put like a backpack on the hook and that basically just adds a bunch of weight to the tripod so that it shakes less and i still do that the hook on the bigger one is obviously bigger but inside of that column they have a secret little cell phone holder that you can put on the tripod so if you want to do like astro mode on your pixel or something you can now use the tripod with your pixel instead of having to buy a brand new tripod just for phones that's cool so i think that that's really cool um also obviously we talked about the you need an allen key which is very kind of frustrating because you can lose it pretty easily and they have a clip on the on the tripod itself to store the allen key in the new ones the bags now have a slot for the allen key so i think that they want you to keep it in the bag in the bag more the previous bag had like two microns of extra room it's like putting a sleeping bag back in like a sleeping bag or like a possible it was so hard to get it in and out um so the new one has a slot in there and they gave it a little more slack so i don't know i just wanted uh to bring that up because i've been doing a lot of mountain climbing recently and i've been using this a lot so So, yeah.

1:01:49Nice. They're still on Kickstarter right now, though. What's the final price? Did you say it? Yeah, they're really expensive. They're, like, really expensive. So the Pro Lite is going to be$800. The Pro is going to be$900. And then the Pro Tall, they call it, because I think it just gets taller, is going to be$1 ,000. So, yeah, really expensive. They're also selling a lot of new accessories with these. They have a new leveling base for people who like that. And they have spiked feet for$49. Oh, it does have the level on it. Yeah, it has a level. Oh, yeah, both of them have level. Yeah, but a leveling base is like that weird cage thing that you can use with cameras.

1:02:32It's kind of an old school, like hardcore photographer feature. Yeah, then they have spiked feet. So I guess if you're in the mountains and you want to really, really, really rig it down, I guess if you were doing a really, really long exposure and you just wanted it to not, you know, overnight kind of long exposure. I mean, they co-developed this with Jimmy Chin, so they're going to do it in a scenario where it's lasting out there for sure. Yeah. Anyway, just want to bring that up real quick. All right. What did you have? I brought something that is significantly cheaper. Yeah, probably. Cheapness is actually part of the reason why I find it interesting.

1:03:11And probably more useful to more people, I would guess. Maybe. So my thing is, is like you wanted to possibly, label this section like our favorite things but i don't want to call this a favorite because i was mostly kidding yeah yeah this is oh you got one of these that i saw on the verge you got one of these so i think i first saw it on the verge it is called the scenda ergonomic mouse rechargeable usb dual bluetooth mou 302 vertical wireless mouth with volume knob some amazon there's actually more to that but i don't feel like saying all of it essentially it's a vertical ergonomic wireless mouse i love the color that comes in some wild colors i bought arguably the coolest color which is like purple yellow and like a vintagey green like this feels very like um it's like a turquoise like rocko's modern life or like a sea vibes yeah um green um and what so i saw it because of the color and because of the integrated volume knob so essentially the mouse because it's vertical and ergonomic it's you know the the buttons are almost sideways and you hold it like you're holding a glass of water, essentially, where you're kind of pinching it in between your hand.

1:04:20And then on the top, now it's got extra space. There's still a front and back button on the sides of it where your thumb rests, but above it, there's a little knob that clicks in and can turn. That's what intrigued me by it is the colors in that knob. Elvis is shaking in his boots. He hates knobs. He's... What really intrigued me, though, is when I clicked on the link for it, it was on sale for$19.59. That's crazy. The list price at$27.99. That's crazy. I don't know how they're making money off of this. I'm by no means saying the build quality on this is great. I wouldn't even say it's very good.

1:04:59Yeah, I would say it feels like it's$20. It feels like it's$20. But when you look at a Logitech, I think they have the Logitech Lyft and the Logitech Vertical are two of those. And they're like$80 and like over$100. for them and they're great mice and like people like rich here love them i don't love vertical ergonomic mice but i'm trying it's way better to get rid of your carpal tunnel we'll see if it stresses me out more than my carpal tunnel than i um but i think there's some design flaws in this i think the reason i want to be really cautious about talking about this is because i've used it for less than a week yeah and i don't know the durability of it sure um but for$20 I had to try and I'm gonna keep trying it yeah the colors are sick yeah it's USB-C which took Logitech years to finally switch to yeah it does it can do two Bluetooth connections and the USB dongle which I'm always a dongle person I think it's easier um just like a little you know USB-A yeah um the things I have not liked about it is I don't believe there's any software so I I cannot change what the volume knob, I can't change what the volume knob dubs, which really sucks for me because I'm using an audio interface, which means my volume keys don't do anything when I'm plugged into my desktop.

1:06:16Okay. So the volume knob does nothing for me. Also, how do you deal with sensitivity? There are three DPI modes, and then you also can just change sensitivity inside of Mac OS or whatever. How's the latency when you're playing old school RuneScape? I was going to say you should play Valorant with this. I'm definitely not playing. I should try Valorant with it. that would be hilarious how bad it would be. I kind of like the way it feels. I'd say that the sliders on the bottom are horrible. It feels like it's kind of like there's a lot of - It felt fine on my mouse pad. Yeah, maybe the mouse pad would be better than this.

1:06:47My biggest gripe with it, and we found this out when we were comparing it to Rich, is the Logitech verticals where your mouse rests almost has like a bed for your thumb to rest on where it juts out. This is just straight down and you're kind of like always gripping this mouse. um i say it's kind of like if you're a climber like pinch holds you're always pinching this you're not really resting your hand on the mouse at all which is comfortable i think yeah which makes you really have to think about using it i've been kind of enjoying it i find myself doing way more wrist movements than like whole arm movements to move things to go around and click on stuff it's taken a really long time to get used to vertical mouse it feels really strange um they're silent buttons which is a lot of what like the mx master's been doing now i think they actually feel kind of nice scroll wheel feels like but i don't really care that much it's 19 and it works the knob doesn't feel bad it's like plastic but it's got some like nice feedback the tactility of the clicking is nice yeah and it's i mean it was essentially plug and play i plugged it right into my computer and it just started working um i'm assuming it would on windows as well but cool yeah i don't get these for 20 bucks yeah that's crazy i do not know what the battery life's yet yeah i've charged it once and it's still going after a few days so yeah how many colors does it come in yeah what are the other four so there's a plain black there's a pink what are they even calling this they literally don't even have color oh no they're just calling it pink pink but it's like two different types of pink the buttons and the scroll wheel are or sorry the buttons and then volume knob are a different color this is the purple and green version they just call it purple there's a light blue version and there's the straight black version that one's definitely you can also buy two packs of these really for 42 dollars wow so it's more wait right now that's more expensive but it's not more expensive if you're assuming the list price of 20 i don't know how long it'll be this cheap.

1:08:48If you decide to go out and get this, I cannot promise you how long it will work. I assume it will work as long as$20 is worth. But I was very intrigued by it. I want to see you game with this. There's no way I'm gaming with this. I need to see a pro Twitch streamer just using this. That would be, I'm sure someone's done it, but getting pro CS players to play it with crappy ones. I bet the latency on this is. terrible. But no one buys an ergonomic mouth for like great latency. That's true. Yeah, yeah. Cool. Yeah, that's it. That's a good one. The Senda Ergonomic MOU302 Senda. Multiple device cordless mice compatible for Windows PC laptop Mac OS purple.

1:09:34Pink. Senda. They make a bunch of other random stuff. Really? Yeah, I've never heard of them. Although, Okay, so here's my other thing. This is probably why it's so cheap. I'm almost positive it's just white-labeled something because I saw a different, really weird ergonomic mouse that looks like an oven mitt, and it's also vertical. That looks different, though. This is different, but Senda makes one that looks exactly like this one, even though that one's from a different company. So I basically found two of the exact same mice under two different companies I'd never heard of, which makes me just assume this is white-labeled from somewhere.

1:10:09Sounds like one of those Alibaba things. Yep. Got it. all right neat cool adam yo all right i've got two oh one of them is hardware one of them is software so for the last few weeks i have been asked a surprising amount of times what is this teal thing on the back of my phone yeah those are awesome yeah this is a moffed tripod basically so it attaches magsafe to a phone now i'm on iphone so it attaches perfectly last week i was on pixel so it attaches to the case but it will attach to the pixel 10 it will attach to the pixel 10 allegedly allegedly we'll see in 14 days but it's just a little magsafe stand that like uses resistance to kind of prop itself up or if you need to get it taller you could like kind of fold it all the way out which is really cool it has multiple angles and stuff like that so it's just a really like handy thing to have attached to your phone if you're not gonna have anything on magsafe anyway my friend birgit has that and she does like content creation for a film company and it's amazing just watching her just like prop it up and making stuff all the time.

1:11:12You know, Peak Design had a really awesome magnetic tripod for a phone, but it was like the proprietary own magnetic connection on their cases, and I just really disliked the fabric of their cases. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The tripod was sick. Like, it was so cool how maneuverable it was and how small it was on the back of the phone, but their tripod case got grody. The phone case. Oh, yeah, sorry, the phone case got grody real quick. Have they changed the material of that? I have no idea. I don't know if they're even still really. Yeah, they use this really, at the beginning, they use this really thin light material that just kind of disgusting pretty quickly.

1:11:49Yeah, and it had a lot of like, it was like woven. So whenever you have woven stuff like that, it just means so much more dirt and grime. And I liked it because I could film climbing stuff with it, which meant my hands were chalky, which meant that thing in like two weeks was disgusting. Yeah, nice. All right, what's your software? The software that I got, the reason I actually switched back to the iPhone was to try this piece of software. And Brandon put me onto it a couple months ago, which is the not boring software suite of things. So in one of the studio videos, he was talking about his weather app.

1:12:22The developer of that weather app, Andy Allen, makes a bunch of different like utility apps. And basically his whole thing is he takes an app that's pretty much a stock app on the iPhone and just makes it super pretty and cool. so like in the studio video brandon was talking about the weather app he recently released one for a camera it's like retro camera and this camera app is just so sick it's so fun to use not boring camera it is not boring at all and it it's almost like remember we spoke about the x half a couple weeks ago yeah the fuji x the fuji x half and it's like you use it because it kind of mimics a film camera like that was part of the allure of it like you can't relook at the photos you use or whatever this app kind of does something similar which is you know in the regular camera app you take a picture the little preview goes down to like the bottom left and has like a gallery that you can then click to see what that does not exist on this camera app so it is just the viewfinder but you can customize the way the camera looks it's really fun and quirky there's a bunch of colors and stuff like that um and it does do like the best feature that i personally like about it is that it does have really nice like filters and luts and recipes and you can even import your own if you want it is a paid app i believe it's like 14.99 for the year so like i don't know a dollar or something a month but it's like overall a really fun app you can also save just the straight up raw if you want so you can take a regular picture in their recipe or whatever and then still have your raw photo saved in the background which is cool i prefer that but so far i've been really liking it i've been using it for like a week and the pictures that i'm getting are like fantastic yeah i love everything that these guys make they're so good ui looks really similar to your uh rendered ipad case from the shark tank episode you're right a little more colorful but it's just a really i like seeing things that have more intentional design yeah it's and more fun yeah these guys also make not boring calculator and not boring weather not boring habits yeah i'm When you said a new app they did and I looked on their thing and saw habits, I was like, he's about to talk about habits.

1:14:32Oh, that's next. I have that downloaded as well. It's a good one. It seems like everything that they make is sort of like the most boring, like utilitarian thing. And they just make it really fun. They just make it pretty and fun. Which is one of the reasons I'm so excited about, this is not iPhone, but Material 3 Expressive. Yeah. Because it's like the whole UI of the phone is that kind of fun material expression. Yeah. but apps like these on iphone that are just like fun to use and look cool they definitely feel like material yeah it's more like this is supposed to be fun and whimsical and different you know not like very monotone and clean like the the old aesthetic of apple so like having this app on an iphone has just been like a fun weird experience cool so highly recommended that's awesome i just want to say hey andy us android people like that fun too i wouldn't mind trying some of these out i made a whole episode about why there are so many different ios apps and no i want to have fun you're not allowed you're only allowed to go on a lot of fun with my limoncello pixel piss color all right let's move on to trivia

1:15:45super head-to-head trivia all right so first question how well do you guys know each other look at your average screen time and guess the other person's most used app go and we're doing of like the last week right last seven days yeah yeah or like seven days in general not like the last seven days until now but i'm worried this is gonna be really boring don't give him a hint wait you're giving me a hint shoot i think i know what it is now maybe at the end of these uh exhibition matches the winner will win something who knows no pressure you probably won't win anything though all right flip them and read what do you got oh you went way too boring oh dang I said Instagram I'm sorry you said Instagram I said Google Maps No I forgot you don't know what the answer is I said Instagram No Alright mine was Instagram Oh really?

1:16:47Oh dang Mine was Reddit Was it really? Can I Wait I'm hooked on that Pokemon trading card game And you're reading all the lines And the subreddit's really fun So me and Ellis thought that yours was gonna be the Pokemon trading card game Oh, it was number one for today. Oh, okay. I already had 45 minutes. That's what I should have guessed, though. So, wait, can we talk about something with Reddit that's really funny? My favorite thing about the new Reddit app is if you take a screenshot of a post. The new Reddit app? The Reddit app. The bad Reddit app? Ever since they killed all the other, ever since they killed the good ones.

1:17:22The bad official Reddit app. If you screenshot a post, it's so quickly, bro, puts this little crappy pop-up. Because it's all in white and just plain text. it's just like wait wait wait wait wait yeah please use the share button instead yeah it's so much more fun if you share this with someone like it's like eat my screenshot yeah because then it gives you a link and then the link opens the reddit app yeah it's yeah it's it makes me happy every time yeah it's like you can't stop me i was worried mine was gonna be reddit because i still do go on it pretty often and then get frustrated but you know it wouldn't help my public image if it was reddit i will say annoyingly because everyone sort of has their sort of like my brain needs sustenance uh app right i'm annoyed that mine has become reddit as of recent weeks and i do not like that i've just tried to make my following subreddits so actually mine are so small that the majority of the time reddit just doesn't work for me because it won't re-show me articles and then like just nothing will show up in the homepage which is another glaring awesome development by the Reddit app because it's just such a good app.

1:18:33Yeah it's really bad. It's f***ing terrible. Yeah it's bad. Damn. Alright. I don't remember the next question. The next question is what apps are on the other person's dock? On your phone specifically. I'm going to answer and then ask a question. Okay. Is it one point for each? No. Okay.

1:19:03You got this. No pressure.

1:19:09Flip them and read. What do you got? I put messages. Is that on there? Sorry. Okay, wait. So here's how I'm going to ask Adam, how do I score this? I have two folders. on my dock. What? Does every app inside my folders count? Yeah. So David has multiple apps. Basically, David can't lose. Exactly. David could have... Your whole phone is on your dock? You could have gotten 70 points off of this. How many apps do you have on your dock? Each folder has 12 apps. You're a monster. And then I have three other apps. Dude, the entire point of the dock is quick access. Yeah, quick access. To 24 apps? No, but these folders, if I accidentally, if I get rid of one of them, I like forget how to function on this because like my thumb is so used to picking things just by second nature that like if one of these shifts, no.

1:20:01Oh yeah, I just pull down and search everything. That takes so much longer. I mean yeah, but then you don't need to worry about where it is. I would argue 99 % of the apps I use in a day are in one of these folders on my dock and it's just like, it's almost like a shortcut key to just press it. This is insane. How is that? You guys type it out every time you want to find something? Well, I just have a doc. And then if I need to find something, then yeah, I'll just search for it. Every time I... I think the comments are going to agree with me on this one. I disagree. I think the comments are on our side.

1:20:32Well, you guys also, though... Oh, you have a homepage, though. I have literally nothing else on my homepage. I only have my doc. Got it. I have, like, my most used apps on my homepage. And then when I want to use something else, I swipe down and search. yeah I just have nothing on my homepage my five icons on the dock two of them are folders and they're the apps that I use every day and I never go into my app so this question is kind of moot then well no because I think you're alright and David did I just show you well I'm not giving you frizz did I just show you I wrote it he wrote it down already but David what did you say for I said messages correct Spotify Spotify it's a very common one in one of my folders i would give him that yeah google maps correct correct also right there some sort of frisbee app there is a u disc is right here nice four for four all right you shot yourself in a foot by having folders on that that's your fault i i'm it's very excited for the i don't know if this is like an android versus iphone thing or like i think just having i never did that i think you guys telling me the better thing is to go into your app drawer and search for it every time no you just swipe down especially you because you like a clean swipe down and search it's the same i guess in android you go into your app yeah you just swipe up but it's the same thing but you like a clean first home page like you don't like anything on it so it makes sense to me that you would just search for everything like why even why would i search when i can just tell me an app to press right now uh you can do it on looking instagram

1:22:07that's depressing it's not depressing it's just like these are the things that like i'm so used okay slack damn sheesh what about something you don't use basically the folders my most common ones are usually on the bottom oh so i can just press them again it almost turns into the second doc and then like i don't know i guess another common one is my email or like instagram or youtube going back to our conversation from last week though that just means that you have this stored in ram at all times i'm telling you physical motions i have to take screenshots of what my folders are because when i get rid of one that maybe i don't use as much and then all of them shift then i'm just like oh no and i try and click things and it's just wrong all the time see muscle memory is unreliable you should just use the built-in search function i think that's the same anyway what did you say for david yeah what did you say for me i said phone uh no i saw i no no i don't use my messages yeah i said camera no i said red No.

1:23:09And Instagram? No. What is on your doc? There's only four in the iPhone doc, by the way. I don't know that. Yeah, so I have Pocket Casts. Nice. Far left, because it's my most used app. Messages. OK. OK. Then I have Arc Mobile, which is my browser. Hey, you didn't put a browser on there. I have my browser. It's the folder. Oh. Oh, yeah. I don't know. I should have put Safari but you use ARC and then I have Spotify which I've been trying to use YouTube Music more recently actually oh really but the UI is horrible it's like so bad I can tell you use a lot of audio on your phone because you have two audio things I listen to podcasts most of the day yeah dang good question I want to see the comments We learned something new about you, Andrew.

1:24:08Another thing we have to fix. I'm a machine. Don't fix it. I think searching is insane. Where's Google Tasks? Can you instantly get to that? Well, Google Tasks is the only thing I have on a different page. My next page is basically my Google Task list and my calendar, which I also have calendar here too. Multiple. Well, this is like if I want to go month by month. The other one is just like what's going on. What's happening right now? Okay, cool. Well, that's been it. Let us know in the comments how wrong Andrew is. Yeah, let us know in the comments how you feel about that. We're very close to the Pixel event.

1:24:41We have one more episode, and then the next episode we actually record on the day of the Pixel event. So in two weeks when Marquez is finally back. Can't wait. Make sure you subscribe because the more people that subscribe, the faster Marquez will come back. If you don't subscribe and we don't grow to a million followers by the time he comes back, he will get stuck in China. He's going to get very sad if we don't have a million. That would honestly be the craziest thing. I've never seen Marquez cry, bro. it's not a good site. Could you imagine if Marques just came back from China after only missing two episodes and we doubled in sites subscriber wise?

1:25:13Make it happen. Make it happen. We'll collab with Mr. Beast or something. Yeah, do a collab YouTube post with Mr. Beast. Anyway, that's been it. Catch you guys later. See you in the next one. Peace. Waitform is produced by Adam Molina and Ellis Rovin. We're partnered with Vox Media Podcast Network. And our true outro music was created by Maine Silk. Bingo! Let's go!

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